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09-06-2011, 05:14 PM
We know about the lockout. The question is what will be its effect on the next NBA season? What is your prediction knowing the players and owners haven't found a common ground as of late. Magkakaroon ba ng 2011-2012 NBA Season?

09-08-2011, 06:16 PM

Maybe this article would give us a hint of the situation. At least nag-uusap na sila ng mas madalas. Looking for the best solution (not necessarily win-win).

09-23-2011, 12:09 PM

Sources: NBA to postpone training camp

The NBA is expected to announce Friday it will postpone the start of training camp and the opening slate of exhibition games after a negotiating session Thursday in New York between players union executive director Billy Hunter and commissioner David Stern ended without a labor agreement or progress toward one soon, league sources said.

Stern, according to one source, told Hunter in Thursday's meeting the owners want to reduce the players' cut of basketball-related revenue to a figure well below 50 percent. Under the previous agreement, which expired July 1, the players were guaranteed a minimum of 57 percent of basketball-related revenue would be spent on salaries.

In negotiations, the players' union had offered to reduce its percentage to as much as 54 percent to accommodate the owners' contention they lost $300 million last season, with the stipulation that a mechanism would be instituted to reward the players if future revenue increased.

The league offered players a 46 percent of basketball-related revenue, 11 percent less than they received in last deal and seven percent less than last proposal by players, a league source said. Owners agreed to try to come up with a mechanism to solve their issues without adding a hard salary cap before the next meeting, according to the source.

The next negotiating session has not been scheduled, but the two sides agreed to contact each other with possible dates to reconvene next week, sources said. Whenever a deal is struck, it is expected to take at least two weeks to write out the complete terms and hash out the finer points.

A period for free agency and then a training camp, however truncated, also would be necessary before the regular season could begin. Most experts agree a minimum of four weeks is necessary to get it done, making the last week in September the absolute deadline for a deal to be struck before regular season games would have to be postponed or canceled.

Stern acknowledged Thursday that "the calendar is not our friend" when it comes to keeping the NBA season intact.

The league is at about the same point as when it postponed training camps in 1998, the only time it lost games to a work stoppage. The decision then came on Sept. 24 for camps that were set to begin Oct. 5. This year, players would be expected to report Oct. 3.

The regular season is scheduled to open Nov. 1, with the defending champion Dallas Mavericks hosting the Chicago Bulls. Though both sides have repeatedly said there is still time for a deal that would leave the regular season unaffected, neither would say so Thursday -- with union president Derek Fisher of the Los Angeles Lakers using virtually the same words as Stern about the coming weeks.

"I don't have control of that part of it, that would be more of a commissioner Stern, Adam Silver question in terms of logistics of starting the season on time," Fisher said. "I'm not going to try and make a guess on that one. The calendar's obviously not our friend, but we're not going to give up on the process because of the time."

Asked again if he thought things were far enough along to still believe in a Nov. 1 start, Stern said: "I don't have any response to that. I just don't. I don't know the answer."

Stern celebrated his 69th birthday Thursday but didn't appear in a festive mood after meeting for about five hours with leaders from the union. He was joined by Silver, the deputy commissioner, Spurs owner Peter Holt, who heads the labor relations committee, and NBA senior vice president and deputy general counsel Dan Rube. Fisher, Hunter, attorney Ron Klempner and economist Kevin Murphy represented the union.

Those small groups had good talks in recent weeks, but things went poorly last Tuesday when they were rejoined by their full committees. Hunter said after that meeting that players planned to make a "significant" financial concession, only to find that owners refused to agree to their condition of leaving the current salary cap system as is.

Fisher said he didn't believe Thursday's talks moved the situation beyond where it was last week.

Stern said the owners' labor relations committee would talk Friday, and both sides said they hoped to meet again next week.

"We'll keep working at it until we figure this thing out, but right now there isn't anything to really report or say," Fisher said. "I don't have any answers to any questions, other than we'll keep working until we find some solutions."

Ric Bucher is a senior NBA writer for ESPN The Magazine. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
Now this is serious.

10-01-2011, 06:09 PM
Less than one month away, still hoping against hope that there would be a 2011-2012 NBA season, sayang naman kung ma cancel ang buong season.

10-02-2011, 07:13 AM

List of NBA players who had gone overseas. Notable player is Deron Williams who is now in Turkey playing for Besiktas. Bryant on the other hand is rumored to play in Italy (where he grew up).


And according to Wade, the NBA might lose a year.

I am just crossing my fingers for this.

10-05-2011, 05:40 AM

This week is crucial. If it fails then goodbye NBA Season starting time. It would be cut down to less than 82 games.

10-07-2011, 05:54 PM

Pau Gasol practicing in Barcelona's basketball team (his brother Mark is there too so is Ricky Rubio).


Deron Williams playing for Besiktas in Turkey.

There is strong possibility na di nga matutuloy. The players themselves are giving up.

Or it could work the other way. They will be force to accept the owners term. Or their the owners will be force to agree to the players demand since they would opt to play abroad. Bottomline is: PLEASE START ON TIME!!!

10-11-2011, 03:04 PM
So David Stern has canceled the first two weeks of the NBA season after failing to reach a labor deal with the players.

Here's why I can't take the side of the players, and believe they can afford to take less.

NBA players are extremely well-paid, even when you factor in that their careers are much shorter than professionals or employees.

The NBA minimum for a 3-year veteran is $850,000/year. If he plays for just 8 years, that's already a $6.8 M career, even without increases.

While in the US, an average family doctor earns $140,000 annually. Using that rate for 40 years (age 21-60) gets only $5.6 M. (median salary from payscale.com).

So the worst 8-year NBA veteran would have already earned more than than the family doctor. And gotten it much earlier, allowing him to reinvest it for the next 30 years even without working, due to the Time Value of Money.

Not to mention he still has over 20+ strong years to work another honest job or go into business, if he can't play anymore.

So I'd rather the NBA teams get a bigger piece of the pie. After all, the players get salaries which are surely way more than enough for their immediate family to live comfortably.

But NBA teams are not guaranteed a profit every year, as their revenue and expenses fluctuate. If teams can be financially healthier, that would be more wealth that could be spread around... e.g.
- more stable jobs for non-playing staff and employees
- better business for suppliers and contractors
- more flexibility in ticket prices = more paying fans = more livelihood for those around the team/games/arena

Of course many teams could also be doing much better in managing their own bottom lines. But at this point, it seems to me that it's the players who should be willing to be more flexible. :)

10-12-2011, 08:48 AM

To people in Chicago, Derrick Rose has a promo. Click if you like. Just shows you how creative NBA players are.

I think it is a matter of time when either of the two parties will succumb but for now it's a stalemate. There are clear losers of course like those people employed at the venues and small time NBA players.

Owners? They have other businesses to offset their losses in basketball. Only those naive owners lose (Mark Cuban, the shrewd businessman wins).

Players? They have lots of options. Foreign players could just go abroad or return home to play in leagues with comparable salary.So I suggest NBA players TO COME HERE IN THE PHILIPPINES. ;D The salary may not be that high but we're not as polluted and racist as other Asian countries.

10-14-2011, 05:40 AM

Lebron James Official Twitter Account:

"Just got to Liverpool, England. Riding through the city. What a beautiful place. Home and birthplace of the One and Only "BEATLES""

Buti pa ito may pera. They could treat this lockout as a vacation. So are some players who is playing and will be playing abroad.

10-21-2011, 08:27 AM
Iibahin ko na ang title. So it is official, the NBA season will not have a regular 82-game season. The question is how many games will be lost.

Check niyo na lang updates sa:

Great site. Lot of great articles and lists.

IMO some of the moneyed-players are winning. Ang kawawa talaga mga walang pera. 'Bron is just watching Liverpool games (part-owner). Dirk naman nasa Germany (baka mag-asawa na yan). ;D Some are planning to retire.

Nalulungkot lang ako di na magrerepeat ang Dallas. Sarap ng feeling na nanalo ang team mo (Dallas fan since '04). Ngayon kayang kaya na namin Spurs. Last season was my greatest season as an NBA fan.

10-23-2011, 05:02 AM
Smart gets JaVale McGee as endorser

By Paolo G. Montecillo
Philippine Daily Inquirer

MANILA, Philippines – What’s better than one NBA star endorsing your brand? Having another.
And that’s exactly what Smart Communications, chaired by tycoon and self-confessed sports junkie Manuel V. Pangilinan, will get.
Smart on Wednesday announced that it had signed 23-year-old Washington Wizard JaVale McGee as its newest corporate endorser.
He joins Kevin Durant, who plays for Oklahoma City Thunder, as the latest addition to Smart’s roster of endorsers.
“Smart is a great company,” McGee said in a roundtable discussion with reporters on Tuesday. “It’s a great phone company for the Filipino people. It’s an honor to be here.”
McGee is in the country for meet-and-greets with fans, to guest at a basketball game and to conduct a basketball clinic for kids.
“McGee is one of the freshest and most exciting players in the NBA today,” said Smart chief wireless advisor Orlando Vea.
He stood out during the last NBA all-star slam dunk contest when he was cited by the Guinness Book of World Records for being able to dunk three balls in a single jump—the most any person has done in history.
McGee was in the Philippines last July with fellow superstars Kobe Bryant, Derek Rose, Chris Paul, Kevin Durant and Tyreke Evans for exhibition games with local All-Stars.

Keep them coming.KOBE Sana. Or my favorite player Dirk Nowitzki.

10-26-2011, 08:57 PM
Iibahin ko na ang title. So it is official, the NBA season will not have a regular 82-game season. The question is how many games will be lost.

Check niyo na lang updates sa:

Great site. Lot of great articles and lists.

IMO some of the moneyed-players are winning. Ang kawawa talaga mga walang pera. 'Bron is just watching Liverpool games (part-owner). Dirk naman nasa Germany (baka mag-asawa na yan). ;D Some are planning to retire.

Nalulungkot lang ako di na magrerepeat ang Dallas. Sarap ng feeling na nanalo ang team mo (Dallas fan since '04). Ngayon kayang kaya na namin Spurs. Last season was my greatest season as an NBA fan.

Sakto kaya ang 66 games if ever, during the 1998-99 lockout, there were 50 regular games, 32 games were lost, let's say sa December naka start sila, minus-16 pwede na.

I really wanted Dallas to repeat too but if the whole NBA season is cancelled, malabo na ang chances nila to win again, Dirk is not gettting any younger.

10-29-2011, 08:33 AM
Forget about all the November games. Iyan na ata ang worst Halloween news for us.

Let's focus on the PCCL. And SEA games. ;D

NBA cancels all games through Nov. 30
By BRIAN MAHONEY, AP Basketball Writer

NEW YORK (AP)—The NBA will play a shortened season—if it plays at all— after negotiations to end the lockout again stalled over how to divide the league’s revenue.

Commissioner David Stern canceled all November games on Friday, the 120th day of the lockout.

“It’s not practical, possible or prudent to have a full season now,” said Stern, who previously canceled the first two weeks of the season.

And he repeated his warnings that the offers players have rejected might now get even harsher as the league tries to make up the millions of dollars that will be lost.

“We’re going to have to recalculate how bad the damage is,” Stern said. “The next offer will reflect the extraordinary losses that are piling up now.”

Just a day earlier, Stern had said he would consider it a failure if the two sides didn’t reach a deal in the next few days and vowed they would take “one heck of a shot” to get it done.

Although they’ve narrowed the issues between them to just a handful, the division of revenues remains a huge obstacle.

Owners are insistent on a 50-50 split, while players last formally proposed they get 52.5 percent, leaving them about $100 million apart annually. Players were guaranteed 57 percent in the previous collective bargaining agreement.

“Derek (Fisher) and I made it clear that we could not take the 50-50 deal to our membership. Not with all the concessions that we granted,” union executive director Billy Hunter said. “We said we got to have some dollars.”

Instead, they’ll now be out roughly $350 million, the losses Hunter previously projected for each month the players were locked out. He hoped a full season could be played if a deal were made this weekend, but Stern emphatically ruled out any hope of that now.

“These are not punitive announcements; these are calendar generated announcements,” Stern said.

No further talks have been scheduled.

After two days of making some progress on salary cap issues, the two sides brought the revenue split back into the discussion Friday and promptly got stuck on both issues.

Stern said the NBA owners were “willing” to go to 50 percent. But he said Hunter was unwilling to “go a penny below 52,” that he had been getting many calls from agents and then closed up his book and walked out of the room.

Hunter said the league initially moved its target down to 47 percent during Friday’s six-hour session, then returned to its previous proposal of 50 percent of revenues.

“We made a lot of concessions, but unfortunately at this time it’s not enough, and we’re not prepared or unable at this time to move any further,” Hunter said.

Union president Fisher said it was difficult to say why talks broke down, or when they would start up again.

“We’re here, we’ve always been here, but today just wasn’t the day to try and finish this out,” he said.

Fisher said there were still too many system restrictions in the owners’ proposal. Players want to keep a system similar to the old one, and fear owners’ ideas would limit player movement.

And though they might be inclined to give up one if they received more concessions on the other, players make it sound as if they are the ones doing all the giving back.

The old cap system allowed teams to exceed it through the use of a number of exceptions, many of which the league wants to tweak or even eliminate. Hunter has called a hard cap a “blood issue” to players, and though the league has backed off its initial proposal calling for one, players think the changes owners want would work like one.

“We’ve told them that we don’t want a hard cap. We don’t want a hard cap any kind of way, either an obvious hard cap or a hard cap that may not be as obvious to most people but we know it works like a hard cap,” Hunter said. “And so you get there, and then all of a sudden they say, `Well, we also have to have our number.’ And you say, `Well wait a minute, you’re not negotiating in good faith.”’

But if players think what’s being proposed is a hard cap, here’s another warning: Deputy Commissioner Adam Silver won’t rule out the league seeking one.

“Our response is then let’s have a hard cap, which is what we wanted,” he said.

“We don’t think it’s a hard cap. … We’ve all been wasting our time if they believe this is a hard cap. We’ve been spending literally hundreds of hours negotiating the specifics of a system, where they’re now saying is the equivalent of a hard cap. We’ve been clear from the beginning from a league standpoint we would prefer a hard cap.”

When players offered to reduce their guarantee from 57 percent to 53 percent, Hunter said that would have transferred about $1.1 billion to owners over six years. Now, at 52.5, he said that would grow to more than $1.5 billion.

But even a 50-50 split would be too high for some hardline owners, because it would reduce only $280 million of the $300 million they said they lost last season. Owners initially proposed a BRI split that players said would have had them around 40 percent.

Though they will miss a paycheck on Nov. 15, Hunter said each player would have received a minimum of $100,000 from the escrow money that was returned to them to make up the difference after salaries fell short of the guaranteed 57 percent of revenues last season.

The small groups that were meeting grew a bit Friday. Union vice presidents Chris Paul(notes)—wearing a Yankees cap for his trip to New York—and Theo Ratliff(notes) joined the talks, and economist Kevin Murphy returned after he was unavailable Thursday. Mavericks owner Mark Cuban stayed for the session after taking part Thursday.

11-14-2011, 06:13 PM
Mukhang may development. Stern has a memo/offer to the players.


11-15-2011, 08:27 AM
Umuulan pa naman. Hay naku wala na ba talagang NBA season?

NBPA rejects owners' offer, begins to disband as union

NEW YORK (AP) -- NBA players rejected the league's latest offer Monday and began disbanding the union, likely jeopardizing the season.

"We're prepared to file this antitrust action against the NBA," union executive director Billy Hunter said. "That's the best situation where players can get their due process."

And that's a tragedy as far as NBA Commissioner David Stern is concerned.

"It looks like the 2011-12 season is really in jeopardy," Stern said in an interview aired on ESPN. "It's just a big charade. To do it now, the union is ratcheting up I guess to see if they can scare the NBA owners or something. That's not happening."

Hunter said players were not prepared to agree to Stern's ultimatum to accept the current proposal or face a worse one, saying they thought it was "extremely unfair." And they're aware what this battle might cost them.

"We understand the consequences of potentially missing the season; we understand the consequences that players could potentially face if things don't go our way, but it's a risk worth taking," union vice president Maurice Evans said. "It's the right move to do."
But it's risky. The league already has filed a pre-emptive lawsuit seeking to prove the lockout is legal and contends that without a union that collectively bargained them, the players' guaranteed contracts could legally be voided.
During oral arguments on Nov. 2, the NBA asked U.S. District Judge Paul Gardephe to decide the legality of its lockout, but he was reluctant to wade into the league's labor mess. Gardephe has yet to issue a ruling.
Stern, who is a lawyer, had urged players to take the deal on the table, saying it's the best the NBA could offer and advised that decertification is not a winning strategy.
Players ignored that warning, choosing instead to dissolve its union, giving them a chance to win several billion dollars in triple damages in an antitrust lawsuit.
"This is the best decision for the players," union president Derek Fisher said. "I want to reiterate that point, that a lot of individual players have a lot of things personally at stake in terms of their careers and where they stand. And right now they feel it's important -- we all feel it's important to all our players, not just the ones in this room, but our entire group -- that we not only try to get a deal done for today but for the body of NBA players that will come into this league over the next decade and beyond."
Fisher, flanked at a press conference by dozens of players including Kobe Bryant and Carmelo Anthony, said the decision was unanimous. But there were surely players throughout the league who would have preferred union leadership put the proposal to a vote of the full membership instead.
Hunter said the NBPA was in the process of converting to a trade association and that all players will be represented in a class-action suit against the NBA by attorneys Jeffrey Kessler and David Boies -- who were on opposite sides of the NFL labor dispute, Kessler working for the players, Boise for the league.
"The fact that the two biggest legal adversaries in the NFL players dispute over the NFL lockout both agree that the NBA lockout is now illegal and subject to triple damages speaks for itself," Kessler said in an e-mail to The Associated Press. "I am delighted to work together with David Boies on behalf of the NBA players."
Stern was not impressed with his legal adversaries.
"Mr. Kessler got his way, and we're about to go into the nuclear winter of the NBA," he told ESPN. "If I were a player ... I would be wondering what it is that Billy Hunter just did."
The sides still can negotiate during the legal process, so players didn't want to write off the season just yet.
"I don't want to make any assumptions," union VP Keyon Dooling said. "I believe we'll continue to try to get a deal done or let this process play out. I don't know what to expect from this process."
Hunter said the NBPA's "notice of disclaimer" was filed with Stern's office about an hour before the news conference announcing the move.
Hunter said the bargaining process had "completely broken down." Players and owners have been talking for some two years but couldn't reach a deal, with players feeling the league's desires to improve competitive balance would hurt their free agency options.
And beyond that, the owners' desire for a 50-50 split of basketball-related income, after players were guaranteed 57 percent under the old deal, meant players were shifting at least $280 million per year to the owners.
"This deal could have been done. It should have been done," Hunter said. "We've given and given and given, and they got to the place where they just reached for too much and the players decided to push back."
Over the weekend, Stern said he would not cancel the season this week.
Regardless, damage already has been done, in many ways.
Financially, both sides have lost hundreds of millions because of the games missed and the countless more that will be wiped out before play resumes. Team employees are losing money, and in some cases, jobs. And both the NBA and NBPA eventually must regain the loyalty of an angered fan base that wonders how the league reached this low point after such a strong 2010-11 season.
The proposal rejected by the players called for a 72-game season beginning Dec. 15.
On Sunday, the league made a very public push on the positives of the deal -- hosting a 90-minute twitter chat to answer questions from players and fans, posting a YouTube video to explain the key points and sending a memo from Stern to players urging them to "study our proposal carefully, and to accept it as a fair compromise of the issues between us."
In the memo, posted on the league's Web site, Stern highlighted points of the deal and asked players to focus on the compromises the league made during negotiations, such as dropping its demands for a hard salary cap, non-guaranteed contracts and salary rollbacks.

Union officials repeatedly have said the system issues are perhaps more important to them than the split of basketball-related income, but owners say they need fundamental changes in both to allow for a chance to profit and to ensure more competitive balance throughout the league.

The previous CBA expired at the end of the day June 30. Despite a series of meetings in June, there was never much hope of a deal before that deadline, with owners wanting significant changes after saying they lost $300 million last season and hundreds of millions more in each year of the old agreement, which was ratified in 2005.
Owners wanted to keep more of the league's nearly $4 billion in basketball revenues. And they sought a system where even the smallest-market clubs could compete, believing the current system would always favor the teams who could spend the most.

The NBA's last work stoppage reduced the 1998-99 season to 50 games. Monday marked the 137th day of the lockout; the NFL lockout lasted 136 days.

In its labor battle, NFL players tried to get the courts to overturn the lockout and let players return to work. Although a Minnesota judge initially ruled in favor of the players, that ruling was put on hold by the 8th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.

"Given the rulings that came down in the NFL case, which are not binding in the 2nd circuit but would be influential, right now the owners are not in a bad spot," said antitrust attorney David Scupp of Constantine Cannon in New York City. "It could very well be that the players have an uphill battle toward getting that lockout enjoined. If they can do that, then it might swing things in their favor."
But time is not on anyone's side.

"If you look at what happened with the NFL case, that whole legal battle surrounding the temporary injunction was resolved relatively quickly, and it still took a few months," Scupp said. "There's not a few months to spare this time around."

11-27-2011, 02:47 PM
From http://www.nba.com/2011/news/11/26/player-reaction.ap/index.html

Surprise, joy around the NBA as deal draws near

MIAMI (AP) -- Surprise, relief, joy and even some caution.
Such was the reaction of many NBA players and fans Saturday, amid news that the labor dispute which led to the cancellation of hundreds of games and threatened the entire season was nearing an end.

No schedules are out, the collective bargaining agreement has not been drafted and formal votes on the deal remain unscheduled. Still, for the first time in months, optimism seemed to take the lead over pessimism on the NBA's emotional scoreboard.
"The journey now begins!!" soon-to-be Cleveland guard Kyrie Irving, the league's No. 1 draft pick, wrote on Twitter.
Well, soon enough, anyway.
Barring either side rejecting the deal, training camps will open Dec. 9, with the league's first three games set to be played on Christmas Day. The Utah Jazz invited fans to start calling again to discuss ticket options, the reigning NBA champion Dallas Mavericks wrote "Go Mavs" on Twitter shortly after the middle-of-the-night news conference to announce the breakthrough, and Shaquille O'Neal recorded a brief video to show his excitement.
"Haven't crossed the finish line yet," wrote Orlando guard J.J. Redick, "but there's definitely a reason to be optimistic."
The league and the union announced around 3 a.m. that they had struck a tentative deal calling for a 66-game season, meaning many owners - and players - were asleep, unaware of the news until they awoke. Miami guard Dwyane Wade was text-messaging with an associate shortly after 4 a.m. Eastern, and his reaction was subdued given the lateness of the hour.
"All I feel right now is `Finally,"' Wade said to The Associated Press.

Free agent Shane Battier said he was getting "mad love" from fans in Memphis, Miami, Oklahoma City and Houston - teams that all figure to be in the mix for his services.
"I am happy it looks like we'll get to start winning our fans back," Battier wrote. "Thanks for the patience. Need to read new details before I pop the bubbly."
Later, Battier poked fun at himself, saying that tweet made him sound like "a conservative old man," adding that he was happy to just talk basketball again.
So was just about everyone else.
Even former players were relieved, including Basketball Hall of Fame player Isiah Thomas, a former union president during his time with the Detroit Pistons.
"I'm extremely pleased and relieved," said Thomas, now the Florida International coach. "Basketball in society is extremely important for social reasons, for economic reasons and the game has always been used to bring people together - not tear them apart. That being said, I think the owners and the players realized that they are not bigger than the game. By them coming together and continuing to work together, I'm pleased with that. That's the way it should be."
Thomas added that he got very concerned when lawsuits started getting filed. Had the sides actually starting waging battles in courtrooms, Thomas feared the worst.
"Once the owners and players are going to court, relationships are severely damaged and severed forever," he said. "Now that they're back working together to better the game, those relationships have a chance to continue to exist."
It should come as no surprise that the Heat - who will be among the favorites for the NBA title when the season gets rolling - were overjoyed by the news. LeBron James, Mario Chalmers and even team owner Micky Arison told their Twitter followers that they couldn't wait to get started.
"I feel like my kids on X-mas day! So juiced!!," James wrote.
Added Chalmers: "I been waitin for this moment since June 12th," referring to the day the Heat watched the Mavericks celebrate winning the NBA title in Miami. It's expected that the teams will open up against each other on Christmas in Dallas, marking the first time that finalists from one year were matched up in a season-opener since Utah and Chicago in 1999 (another season shortened by a work stoppage).
But not everyone was celebrating.
"With high school and college basketball now playing, who really needed the NBA?" asked Ed White of Allentown, Pa. who was at Saturday's NJIT-St. Francis (NY) men's basketball game in Newark. "I think they're going to lose some fans because of this. The NBA treats its fans like they really don't care. I'm personally offended by both the owners and the players' attitudes through all of this. They play for the fans. ... I think people will go back eventually, but not right away. It's always about the money. The owners always want more. The players always want more. But when was the last time someone spent money to see an owner score a basket? The owners should realize that."
Teams largely remained quiet, since the league's lockout rules technically are still in place - and likely will stay that way until the deal is actually ratified and signed.
Players, however, turned en masse to Twitter to share their views, which seemed overwhelmingly positive.
-"Anddd we're back! On a brighter note, America's unemployment rate just lowered," wrote New York's Landry Fields.
-"Music to my ears this morning. Huge thanks goes out to all NBA fans for staying patient!," said his Knicks teammate, Andy Rautins.
-"Thanks to all our fans for your patience. Amazing season comming!!!" added New Jersey's Kris Humphries.
Many details of the agreement are still getting finalized, but it's clear that owners gave in on a few issues to get the deal done - including the plan that players would get no more than 47 percent of basketball-related income. The target is still a 50-50 split, but with a band from 49 percent to 51 percent that gives the players a better chance of reaching the highest limit than previously proposed.
For players, getting those 3 BRI points back is no small victory - each point is worth around $40 million annually.
"I woke up and saw that they had come to a tentative agreement, and I was a little bit surprised that the owners had given more," said ESPN's Jeff Van Gundy, the former NBA coach and brother of Orlando Magic coach Stan Van Gundy. "I think the players did a good job in extracting as much as they were going to extract from ownership it seems. And I like the length of the season. I think that should be the length of the season under normal circumstances."
That may have been the first time the word "normal" could be used in an NBA discussion in months.
It's not done, but it's closer than many thought possible.
"Glad lockout is almost over," veteran Jason Richardson wrote, "but I hope each player read the fine print and make the right decision."

Yes. ;D

11-28-2011, 07:18 PM

Pending agreement, season to open Dec. 25

NBA Commissioner David Stern said early Saturday morning that, if the tentative agreement reached between the owners and players is completed and ratified, he is hopeful of having a 66-game season, beginning on Christmas Day. Assuming the season tips off on Christmas, below is a general breakdown of how the 2011-12 NBA Season schedule will be structured. Full details of the schedule will be released on NBA.com upon its completion.
2011-12 NBA Schedule Breakdown
Regular Season Start Date: December 25, 2011
Regular Season End Date: April 26, 2012
Playoffs Start Date: April 28, 2012
Last Possible Finals Date: June 26, 2012
Individual Team Schedule Breakdown
Conference Games: 48
• Play 6 teams 4 times (2 home, 2 away)
• Play 4 teams 3 times (2 home, 1 away)
• Play 4 teams 3 times (1 home, 2 away)
Non-Conference Games: 18
• Play 3 teams 2 times (1 home, 1 away)
• Play 6 teams 1 time at home
• Play 6 teams 1 time away
Back to Back to Backs: All teams with at least 1; no more than 3
Playoff Back to Backs: Possible in second round

* Parang pinagloloko lang tayo. I am of the opinion na luto. ;D Anyway, happy to see our league back. Mavs for the repeat!!