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oca
06-27-2011, 12:31 AM
Gilas program continues even if Olympic bid fails
By Joey Villar (The Philippine Star) Updated June 27, 2011 12:00 AM

JAKARTA – Two pillars of Smart Gilas Pilipinas bat for the continuation of the cage program even if the team fails in its Olympic qualifying bid in the FIBA-Asia Championship in China in September.

Coach Rajko Toroman and skipper Chris Tiu yesterday stressed the need to sustain the success of the program launched three years ago aimed at qualifying the Philippines to the 2012 London Olympics.

The Nationals formalized their stint in the Olympic qualifier set Sept. 15-25 in Wuhan, China with an emphatic showing in the SEABA tournament.

“The Smart Gilas program is a great program and it must continue if the Philippines wants to look beyond London,” said Toroman.

The Nationals are playing the host Indonesians at press time in the finals of the ninth SEABA tilt at the Brittama Arena here.

“It’s a good program that should be continued,” said Tiu, who reiterated his desire to forego his plans to join the pro ranks if the program would be extended.

Toroman said the new Smart Gilas must be a combination of some members of the team seeing action in the SEA Games in November and the old Smart Gilas squad.

“It should be formed by tapping the best players of the SEA Games team and players from the old Smart Gilas team plus Marcus (Douthit),” said Toroman, referring to the naturalized 6-10 Douthit, the team’s reinforcement for its Olympic quest.

The SEAG-bound team is coached by Norman Black and composed of the best collegiate players.

There is a possibility that Smart Gilas would be disbanded if it fails in the FIBA-Asia Championship, which stakes the lone Olympic berth for the region.

“I would love to continue to play for Smart Gilas, I hope after the Olympics we’ll go for the World Championship,” said Tiu.

http://www.philstar.com/SportsArticle.aspx?articleId=700256&publicationSubCategoryId=69

oca
06-27-2011, 12:33 AM
Coach bats for longer Smart Gilas program
By June Navarro
Philippine Daily Inquirer
9:48 pm | Sunday, June 26th, 2011

JAKARTA, Indonesia —Rajko Toroman believes the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas should do well to extend Smart Gilas Pilipinas’ original three-year program.
The Smart Gilas head coach stressed on Sunday the need to sustain the program originally geared to bring the national team back to the Olympics next year in London.

“We should extend the program,” said Toroman, who joined Smart Gilas after steering an Iranian team that has been together for so long to the 2007 Asian championship and a stint in the 2008 Beijing Olympics.

“I would be glad to coach if ever they decide to continue the program,” added Toroman in an interview before the Nationals’ gold-medal match against host Indonesia in the 9th Southeast Asian Basketball Association Championship on Sunday night at the BritAma Arena.

Clobbered by the Nationals, 94-54, in the eliminations Friday, the Indonesians clinched the second title slot by trouncing Malaysia, 77-47, late Saturday night.
Indonesia, Malaysia and the Philippines have already earned slots to the Asian Championship set in Wuhan, China this September. The Asian champion gets the lone Olympic slot from the region in the London Games next year.

New Iran head coach Veselin Matic had said in a recent interview that keeping the core of veteran players has been the key to Iran’s success in the Fiba Asia.
He added that the Iranians were basically the same team that copped the bronze in the 2006 Doha Asian Games and captured back-to-back Fiba Asia Championship crowns in 2007 and 2009.

With the possibility that some Gilas mainstays may join the PBA rookie draft in August, Toroman said the collegiate squad going to this year’s Southeast Asian Games here should form the core of the next PH squad along with the holdovers from the current team.

“It should be a combination of the best players from the team which will play in the SEA Games and some members of the old Smart Gilas team,” said Toroman.

A crack squad composed of UAAP and NCAA stars is being formed by coach Norman Black to compete in the SEA Games on Nov. 11-25.

Team captain Chris Tiu said he would stay if the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas kept the Smart Gilas program beyond 2012 along with holdovers Aldrech Ramos, seven-footer Greg Slaughter and naturalized center Marcus Douthit.

“I love playing for the national team. If you ask me, I want the program to continue,” said Tiu, who remained non-committal in the coming PBA freshman lottery.

After the Olympics, the PH five has to prepare for the 2013 Fiba Asia Championship, which offers three seats to the 2014 Fiba World Championship.

It’s the world cup of basketball and we haven’t been there for a long time,” said Tiu, who also offered his services to the SEAG-bound PH five.

http://sports.inquirer.net/5861/coach-bats-for-longer-smart-gilas-program

Joescoundrel
06-27-2011, 09:24 AM
The real question now is: What is the Smart Gilas program? Initially it was gathering the best local college talent abd letting them train, develop and grow together, like Argentina and Spain.

But then we started getting PBA veterans like Asi, Dondon, Kelly and Jimmy to bolster the roster.

We brought in Marcus, Marcia and the other Chris (Lutz) from overseas.

So for the sake of clarity what exactly is the Smart Gilas program now?

shyboy
06-27-2011, 12:38 PM
Once they started getting PBA players for short tournaments, the "program" is as good as dead.

oca
06-28-2011, 11:39 PM
The way players have come on gone during the first 3 years of Gilas makes me believe it has no future to speak of beyond 2012.

Gilas can't retain players and what is a NT team without a stable pool of mature and veteran players well versed in the international game?

Players look to the PBA as their ultimate destination, and with the PBA treating players as their personal properties, Gilas will always be left with no team to speak of and rebuild again with young and inexperienced players-- begging the PBA for reinforcements at most.

We all know that Gilas was inspired by the NCC success. But it is now clear NCC can't be replicated. NCC retained a core of players. Gilas has no core and will unlikely have no players to develop into a core given that most are turning pro with the coming PBA draft. Not to mention the number who have turned pro earlier.

The Gilas player turnover is short and quick to its own detriment.

One can point out the different dynamics at play between NCC and Gilas. The era. Level of international competition, particularly the emergence of teams from the Middle East. Or, even the Cojuangco factor- how he earned and commanded personal loyalty from people under him-- whereby Calma, Samboy, Caidic et al didn't consider becoming pro until NCC was disbanded as an aftermath of EDSA.

But there is one indisputable truth with NCC, one that must be present for Gilas to succeed-- There has to be a stable pool of players.

Yan ang dapat pagtuunan matapos ang 2012.

Joescoundrel
06-29-2011, 07:13 AM
Giving national team players a competitive stipend should be a good start. Lord knows MVP can certainly afford it. But we have to bind players to the national team for at least five years. Players from other countries play in professional leagues, inlcuding the NBA, yet still have the time and the nationalism to play for their respective countries. We might also want to make it a permanent thing to have the national team as a guest team in at least one PBA conference every year.

apgarciakmp
09-26-2011, 01:26 PM
Height, 3pt Shooting, Speed

Coach : Norman Black
Asst. AGUSTIN, REYES, CONE
Consultants : JAWORSKI, FERNANDEZ, TOROMAN

1st Five

PG - NORWOOD
SG - JYAP
C - DOUGHIT
SF - sTARDINGER
PF - FAJARDO

PG - RREYES
SG - GDAVID/LANETE
C - SLAUGHTER
SF - RDEOCAMPO/AGUILAR
PF - YDEOCAMPO

PG - KRAVENA/CASTRO
SG - BPARKS/ABUEVA
C - THOSS
SF - DEVANCE/SEIGLE
PF - WASHINGTON

pio_valenz
09-26-2011, 01:36 PM
DK, it was Iran that won the 2007 and 2009 FIBA-Asia titles, not Jordan. Before last night, Jordan never reached the finals of any FIBA-Asia tournament. And it was in 1987 that we placed fourth, not 1985. Please get your facts straight.

But if this is being delusional, then I'm okay with it. Because even if it takes 49 years, as you so boldly predicted, I really don't care. Kung sa UP nga, every 48 years lang kami nananalo ng championship, wala naman nagrereklamo. Basta cheer lang ng cheer.

Now moving on to more important things, the first order of the day is to retain Toroman. There's a good article in interaksyon.com, an interview with Yeng Guiao. He said Douthit and the PBA players were the real reasons behind the success. But I think a mixture of pros and amateurs is still ideal, and also send the core of the team to international tournaments regularly. Sana lang naman makisama na ang SMC group, because we need guys like James Yap on the team. Lord knows Gilas lacked a reliable, quick-release shooter.

eightyfiver
09-26-2011, 01:53 PM
As long as the interest of a school prevails over national interest, it would be awfully difficult for us to succeed in international competition. Instead of developing a rare 7 footer, GS was pirated to fortify Ateneo's bid for a historic four-peat. Looking back...



Manila Bulletin
11/6/2008
Waylon Galvez

Obviously out of shape, Fil-American Gregory Slaughter could hardly keep up with the drills ordered by Serbian coach Rajko Toroman yesterday at the Philsports Arena in Pasig.

Huffing and puffing, the six-foot-11 giant admitted that he just got back from vacation.

"When I arrived here (in Manila), I’m not really in shape. But when I get back here for the tryouts, it’s going to be different," said Slaughter in a phone interview.

Because of his size, Slaughter is one of the players tipped to survive the three-day tryouts that begin on Nov. 13 at the Philsports Arena.

Slaughter was invited to attend an informal workout with Toroman who had the chance to see first hand what the Cebu-based player could do.

The 22-year-old University of Visayas center, whose mother hails from Cebu, went through several drills that included post up moves under the basket, dribbling and spinning and strong finish to the hoop.

Although conceding that he still has a lot to learn to become a dominant center, Slaughter said he hopes that he impressed the Serbian coach.



He could have really helped our undersized team by being another threat at the post. (But then again, I don't understand why Toroman benched Japeth in the final 2 or 3 games. Is he injured?)

Anyway, he's only 25 now and would still be serviceable to our future teams. National interest can wait.

easter
09-26-2011, 04:32 PM
Nice! MVP seems to be determined to see success in his Smart Gilas program however long it takes!


“Whatever it takes. Whether it’s 2012, 2016, 2020 or pag patay na ako (even when I’m dead),” Pangilinan told the Filipino sportswriters at the close of the Wuhan competition last night.

The_Big_Cat
09-26-2011, 05:02 PM
The Smart Gilas program for me was a success. Marching on to the final four for the first time since 1987. Among the 12 guys, looks like by age Taulava and Alapag may not be there in 2013. Ranidel and Kelly are still young and may be good for another FIBA Asia stint. Douthit is definitely good for another 2 FIBA Asia stints.

One thing going great for us is that we have a dominant big man right now. Complementing him with the right players will be the key.

There are a ton of talent right now at the collegiate level who may takeover the guard spots that will be left by Casio et al. RR Garcia, Terence Romeo, Kevin Alas, Garvo Lanete, Ray Parks and Kiefer Ravena to name a few. These guys suit the international style of basketball. Guys who could put the ball down, create shots and hit consistently from 3-pt area.

The forwards I think should still come from the PBA like Ranidel, Kelly and Japeth.

oca
09-26-2011, 09:07 PM
Before we even discuss constructing the next NT, palagay ko dapat natin malaman from the SBP anong cycle ba ang sinusunod nila. Will they be building a team with the aim of qualifying to the Olympics in 2016, or habol bang pumasok sa FIBA World in 2014?

May pinag-kaiba kasi yan with respect sa time table ng preparasyon.

Ang qualification sa FIBA World 2014 ay magaganap sa FIBA Asia scheduled on July 2013. That's about 21 months from today. Right now, our Gilas team only has two players. Bubuo uli at magsisimula sa scratch and will have 21 months to prepare. Will that be enough? Can we gain the needed experience and maturity over that period? I doubt. Now, kung kasama sa plano ang humiram ng players sa PBA to reinforce our team, we still have to know how much the PBA will help. Still, will that arrangement allow all the players to be together for all the build up tournaments? Duda ako dyan. (Kung mga PBA teams ni MVP uli ang pagkukunan ng reinforcements, baka naman matulad ulit sa TnT na naghabol ng championship at di agad na-release ang mga players.)

Ngayon kung ang primary target ay Olympics 2016, that's about 40 months of preparation until the FIBA Asia qualifiers in 2015. This 2012 SBP can again offer contracts to non-PBA players just as they did with the first batch of Gilas players. Send this team regularly to compete abroad. The FIBA Asia in 2013 will just serve like a validation exam to see how the build up is doing. Kung pumasok sa FIBA World (top 3 in FIBA Asia advance to the FIBA World) bonus na lang yun.

Dapat long term talaga and let's aim for the 2016 Olympics as first the main goal. This can be the start of 4-year cycle that will provide overlap of batches of players. Sign up in 2012 a new batch of players for 3 years to end with the FIBA Asia 2015. Some will leave early for sure, so in 2013 sign a new set of 3 to 5 players for 3 years and another 3 to 5 players in 2014. Pagkatapos ng FIBA Asia in 2015, may core na tayo of at least 6 players still left in the team. That core would carry the team in the qualifiers for FIBA World in 2018. Di tulad ngayon na we are left with just 2 in Tiu and Douthit.

There are many ways to build and reinforce our NT, pero dapat malinaw ang timetable at cycle na susundin. We cannot whimsically aim to win a tournament or qualify to a big event when the calendar shows there is not enough time for the team to mature and gain the much needed experience.

The_Big_Cat
09-27-2011, 07:24 AM
When Asi was with Powerade, pinahiram naman siya ni JB Baylon for the 2010 Asian Games. With Casio and Lassiter under Powerade, hindi naman siguro mahirap na ipahiram sila sa 2013 after all they sponsored the 2009 PBA-backed national team to the FIBA Asia championships.

How about Chris Banchero? Some say he's a more offensive-minded version of Marcio Lassiter.

oca
09-27-2011, 09:42 PM
I looked at the rosters of China, Jordan and South Korea from previous FIBA events, source was the archive section of the FIBA site. Would like to share these info on the 3 other semifinalist in this just concluded 2011 FIBA Asia.

China's line-up to this 2011 FIBA Asia:
-6 players played in the 2009 FIBA Asia
-8 players played in the 2010 FIBA World
-5 of the 8 who played in the last FIBA World were already in that 2009 FIBA Asia roster.


Jordan's line-up to this 2011 FIBA Asia:
- 7 players have appeared in both the 2007 and 2009 FIBA Asia.
- 5 of those who appeared in the 2007 and 2009 FIBA Asia also played in the 2010 FIBA World.


South Korea's line-up to this 2011 FIBA Asia:
- 4 players played in the 2007 FIBA Asia.
-The above 4 players plus 3 others played in the 2009 FIBA Asia.


If one subscribes to the saying "Nothing beats experience.", mahihirapan talaga tayo lagi sa international competition if we continue to lose national players to the PBA and have no arrangement to enlist their services again when needed.

Lagi at laging bago at bagito ang ating mga players.

This Gilas team went as far as it did, and this validates what many of us know, we have the talent to compete. Pero laging dehado sa labanan dahil kulang sa experience.

bchoter
09-28-2011, 12:38 AM
As long as the interest of a school prevails over national interest, it would be awfully difficult for us to succeed in international competition. Instead of developing a rare 7 footer, GS was pirated to fortify Ateneo's bid for a historic four-peat

He could have really helped our undersized team by being another threat at the post. (But then again, I don't understand why Toroman benched Japeth in the final 2 or 3 games. Is he injured?)

Anyway, he's only 25 now and would still be serviceable to our future teams. National interest can wait.
And the U16 will lose vital cogs due to their junior varsity commitments. I remember the time when UST practically surrendered the season (UAAP '90 or '91) when it lent its starting 5 to the RP Youth Team some time back. I'm not sure if any school, in this ultra competitive times, will sacrifice its own campaign for the sake of the national team

maroonmartian
09-28-2011, 03:59 PM
http://businessmirror.com.ph/home/sports/17108-pangilinan-bids-for-2013-asians

Pangilinan bids for 2013 Asians
TUESDAY, 27 SEPTEMBER 2011

THE Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (SBP) will bid for the hosting of the Fiba-Asia Championship for Men in 2013.
SBP President Manny V. Pangilinan has told Fiba President Ivan Mainini and secretary-general Patrick Baumann of his intention to bring to the country the event, which serves as the qualifier for the 2014 Fiba World Championship in Spain.

“Sinabi ko sa Fiba that we will make our bid at sinabi rin nila that the deadline is until the end of September,” said Pangilinan.

“Sinabi ko rin sa kanila na may isang business group [led by Henry Sy] which is building a new coliseum. So we’ll have two good coliseums. Kasi kinuwento ko rin sa kanila na we will refurbish the Smart Araneta Coliseum, so we’ll have two good venues for basketball,” Pangilinan added.

Pangilinan was referring to the SM Arena on Macapagal Avenue in Pasay City.

The new arena is expected to be operational in May next year and could accommodate 16,000 fans.

The Philippines lost to South Korea in the bronze medal game, ending the Filipinos’ dream of qualifying for the London Olympics.

(Joel Orellana)
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We deserve to host. Sana lang OK ang security situation natin during that time but hosting the 2010 FIBA Asia Champions Cup successfully indicates we can.

sajubeads
09-28-2011, 06:42 PM
http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/pba-willing-to-loan-16-man-pool-for-national-team


If plans push through, the Philippine Basketball Association will allow the lending of a pool of 16 players, who might be tapped to represent the national team playing in the FIBA Asia Championship.

No names were brought up on the table, and Salud said he will wait for an appointment from the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas to discuss this matter.

“We have to sit down with the SBP. We have to know their plan in the next two years. This will be on the condition that there will be no distractions. And we will be playing only on elite tournaments being held in September and October,” said PBA commissioner Chito Salud during the PBA press conference at the Diamond Hotel.

The elite tournament which Salud is referring to is the FIBA Asia tournament, which is held during August and September.

“We believe 16 is a strong number,” added Salud. “It’s adequate for the national team. We will only field players who we know are suitable top play in the international level.

“We know that SMART-Gilas will not last forever, so we decided to come out with a plan. Under the SBP charter, we’re mandated to support the national team in the elite tournaments. We will support SMART-Gilas while they’re there.”

According to Salud, the success of the SMART-Gilas program will bring consciousness to our basketball fans.

“We look forward to a strong partnership with SBP and SMART-Gilas to be able to come up with a strong program. We still have a lot to improve, taking small steps to get there. This will translate to a better reception as well from the PBA,” added Salud.

Salud said the fourth place finish is somewhat an achievement.

“At least, the fourth place finish is somewhat pleasing to my eyes, but I think we’ve already overachieved considering the fact that we had a chance to play for the championship berth and we had a chance to win a medal. We came close to achieving them,” added Salud.

The SMART-Gilas Pilipinas national team finished fourth place in the FIBA Asia Championship, losing a tough 70-68 game against South Korea in the battle for the bronze medal. The team also finished fourth in the FIBA Asia Club Championship, which the country hosted last summer.

oca
09-29-2011, 07:32 AM
http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/pba-willing-to-loan-16-man-pool-for-national-team


If plans push through, the Philippine Basketball Association will allow the lending of a pool of 16 players, who might be tapped to represent the national team playing in the FIBA Asia Championship.

No names were brought up on the table, and Salud said he will wait for an appointment from the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas to discuss this matter.

“We have to sit down with the SBP. We have to know their plan in the next two years. This will be on the condition that there will be no distractions. And we will be playing only on elite tournaments being held in September and October,” said PBA commissioner Chito Salud during the PBA press conference at the Diamond Hotel.



It is difficult to comment against this taking into account that Chito Salud was appointed PBA Commissioner only in August 2010. This 2011 FIBA Asia was the first big FIBA Asia event that took place in his tenure. Baka ang pagiging "Salud" niya can make the PBA team owners act differently from the past. Dati Asian Games lang ang committment ng PBA, pati na ba FIBA Asia?

Pero ngayon pa lang, dapat nilang matanto, di uubra yung pakakawalan nila ang mga players 2 or 3 buwan bago ang susunod na FIBA Asia or Asian Games.

The NT must continually compete in international competitions during the intervening period. Sa ganyan preparasyon, kakayanin ba ng PBA na magpahiram ng players?

Dati na yang tinanong. Alam na natin ang sagot.

Can Salud make a difference?

john_paul_manahan
09-30-2011, 04:52 AM
Alam natin ang sagot sa dalawang koponan sa sampu. Walang problema dun. Yung isa pa, may track record na at nagawa na. Ang tanong e yung isang conglomerate, e willing ba?

pio_valenz
09-30-2011, 09:11 AM
The 16-man pool is was announced by the commissioner himself during the PBA press conference, so all teams have no choice but to comply if one of their players is chosen. The SMC reps were there, and Robert Non of Ginebra was even seated next to the commish on the elevated dais when the announcement was made.

I think the PBA will wait for the SBP's next move first before selecting the players. They will need inputs first from the national team coach and Smart Gilas. Once the SBP decides what to do with the Gilas program - who will comprise Gilas 2 and most importantly, who will coach them - then the PBA and SBP can sit down and discuss the formation of the pool. There is no big rush anyway because there are no more big international tournaments for the rest of the year.

abcdef
09-30-2011, 11:23 AM
@ pio_valenz sino po yung nasa 16 man pool na yun?

pio_valenz
09-30-2011, 11:28 AM
^Wala pa. SBP and PBA will decide on it once they sit down and meet.

abcdef
09-30-2011, 11:30 AM
^Wala pa. SBP and PBA will decide on it once they sit down and meet.


mali pala intinde ko sa post mo. . . thank you!

clutchjedi
09-30-2011, 12:02 PM
My question at this point is:

To get to the next level, do we need a national team that practices and plays together year-round, like Gilas 1.0 ? Or can they do it seasonally, i.e. regroup for just a few months a year, as long as there's continuity in the pool of players ? If the latter, how much preparation time is needed?

The elite countries, whose stars play in the NBA or Euro leagues, only get together after the NBA season. Team USA trains for a month, but they're the world's best talents. Spain & Argentina do it, but their core has been together for over a decade. In Asia, I think even Korea & Japan do it, but their pro seasons end in April/May.

Whereas the PBA is now offering a 16-man pool, BUT saying they will only be available in August after the PBA season (third conference) ends. No pulling-out of players. This year, FIBA-Asia started on Sept 15. ???

* * *

I wonder how SBP would consider this offer.

1) On one extreme, they could go back somewhat to the old all-PBA formula: no more fulltime team. Let's get Douthit, Lutz, Lassiter, Ranidel & a few other Gilas boys for "continuity". Add stars like Devance and Ryan Reyes. Cram for 1.5 months and hope for the best.

Do this every year in August, for the FIBA Asia or the Asia Stankovic Cup, with the same coach and core of players. Would this work?

2) The other extreme: no thanks. We'd rather form another fulltime Smart-sponsored amateur pool. But we'll say upfront, not everybody will make the final roster because MVP will allow reinforcements from TNT/Meralco to be pulled out for the last 4 months.

Or if SBP/Smart has the money*, they can make a counter-offer. Such as...

3) We don't need 16 players for 2 months. We'll form a non-PBA pool of 7 prospects plus practice players.

If you lend us 5 players for 4 months (Lutz, Lassiter, etc), we'll cover half their salary*. Douthit + pros + amateurs will train for 4 months leading to the FIBA Asia / Stankovic Cup.

The PBA could make an incentive. For each player that your team loses to the NT during the third conference, you get a 2-inch increase in your import height limit. Or something more creative than that. ;D

It'll be interesting to see how the SBP reacts. If they have a coach in mind, that would be a big factor - should they retain Toroman, I don't think he'll agree to 2-month cramming. Or it could be that SBP and PBA finalize a MOA first, and then SBP searches for a coach who can work with what's given.

* * *

In all this, I think the main premise/difficulty behind PBA not totally supporting the NT is simply -

PBA teams are paying their players big money monthly (180k rookie max, 420k max) expecting these players to
a) bring glamour and image to the team and draw fans to their games.
b) win games and especially championships, thus bringing more glamour, visibility and pride to the team.

PBA teams think: if I'm not deriving these benefits this month, I shouldn't be the one paying for it. Player salaries are not cheap.

PBA players have families and expenses. No PBA player is in a position to tell his team: please allow me to play for the country. And to be fair to the team, I'm willing to forego my paycheck until I rejoin the team. I can make do with my savings and SBP's allowance.

Obviously if SBP had enough funding to pay pro-level salaries, we could easily form a stronger team. But I don't know that they do (maybe if MVP lets go of the Meralco team and reduces support to his other teams/sports, but why would he...) :D

So it would really take the generosity and sacrifice of one or more parties, if we are to make progress in this basketball dream of ours. ;D

pio_valenz
09-30-2011, 09:30 PM
A couple of things. First, FIBA-Asia usually starts in August. It was moved to September this year because they decided to replace Lebanon as host country at the last minute. Second, this wasn't mentioned in the news articles, but Salud said that any member of the pool is free to join national team practices once his team has been eliminated. No need to wait for the PBA season to officially end.

That being said, here's what I think will happen. Smart Gilas will continue, and the SBP will recruit new players to join Chris Tiu and Marcus Douthit. Aldrech Ramos and Greg Slaughter seem to be logical choices since they were part of the original Gilas. Maybe we'll also recruit two or three Fil-ams, preferably in their early 20s, and sign them up for a two-year stint similar to Lutz and Lassiter. If that happens, hopefully we'll go for a couple of tall Fil-ams who can play the wing. They can also tap a few collegiate standouts like RR Garcia and Bobby Ray Parks. They form a pool of 12-15 amateur players to represent the country in minor tournaments when the PBA is in season.

To plug in the holes for the FIBA-Asia, they will tap members of the 16-man PBA pool. In essence, it will be similar to the Wuhan arrangement, except that this time, there is already a pool of PBA players waiting to be tapped. No more last-minute appeals by Smart Gilas for help. Salud has always said, ang ayaw lang nila ay kapag binubulabog sila kung kailan malapit na ang torneo.

I also think cooperation between the SBP and the PBA will be better this time now that Sonny Barrios is the SBP executive director. Noli Eala took things personally and deliberately alienated the PBA during his useless tenure as Barrios' predecessor.

Dark Knight
10-06-2011, 09:25 AM
DK, it was Iran that won the 2007 and 2009 FIBA-Asia titles, not Jordan. Before last night, Jordan never reached the finals of any FIBA-Asia tournament. And it was in 1987 that we placed fourth, not 1985. Please get your facts straight.

But if this is being delusional, then I'm okay with it. Because even if it takes 49 years, as you so boldly predicted, I really don't care. Kung sa UP nga, every 48 years lang kami nananalo ng championship, wala naman nagrereklamo. Basta cheer lang ng cheer.


My apologies for the wrong facts. Im older than you think.

Yes, 49 years. After that, we might be able to enter the Olympics. As for UP, my hats off for their supporters school pride.

Which the Gilas team dont have.

franz_inwurdz
10-06-2011, 10:35 AM
IMHO, we were just 1 more Douthit away from winning the Gold in Fiba-Asia.

Same program, same set-up, same coach, same issues and problems, same sh*t, but add another Douthit clone and were in.

The_Big_Cat
10-06-2011, 12:31 PM
IMHO, we were just 1 more Douthit away from winning the Gold in Fiba-Asia.

Same program, same set-up, same coach, same issues and problems, same sh*t, but add another Douthit clone and were in.





franz, medyo may kamahalan kung kukuha pa ng isa. Unless kung tutulong ang SMC group kay MVP.

Originally posted by nardy at Interbasket:


Douthit does not play for a PBA team but for SMART GILAS, he earns almost 20 thousand US Dollars per month which is guaranteed whether he is playing or not, he is also provided with the free use of his own luxurious high-end condominium with a number of househelp aside from his baby's nannie/babysitter. He also has a chauffer-driven Sports Utility Vehicle whose repair, maintainance and gas is shouldered by the company. His family is covered by health insurance which can be used in medical and dental emergencies and needs. Marcus gets free use and membership in a fitness and training gym. For his eveyday expenses, he was given a credit card that's paid by the company. Company issued landlines, mobile phones and DSL Broaband internet for his personal use. Company-paid home vacation trips to Marcus and his family is also part of the package. Then of course the team's owner gives out game and tournament bonuses. Then Douthit is allowed to earn a 2nd income when Gilas is not busy, that's why even if he will continue getting his monthly salary from SMART Communication, he can play and earn with a CBA team.

Even if we in the Philippines could not match in monetary terms what the CBA teams could offer but we could provide the security and luxury which other teams could not give.

pio_valenz
10-06-2011, 06:10 PM
We cannot get another Douthit unless he has Filipino blood. FIBA rules state a country can only get one naturalized player.

maroonmartian
10-17-2011, 08:21 AM
I think the PBA should now realize the benefits of having a Gilas/National team. Look at the Gilas boys. Kahit yung mga bench players dati naghahalimaw na sa PBA. Even Japeth Aguilar looks good. Its because they were trained in the international game which is faster than our own PBA (which is too slow for their size). Unless OK na yung training natin dito ay OK lang na professional players na. Pero hindi naman ganun. :D

thadzonline
10-20-2011, 10:55 AM
I recently had a conversation with 6'9" Isaac Holstein who is half-Filipino. All I could say is, forget hope he'll ever don the NT jersey.

maroonmartian
10-30-2011, 02:54 AM
OMG. Grabe talaga. Can't imagine such an athletic squad.

http://www.philstar.com/SportsArticle.aspx?articleId=742854&publicationSubCategoryId=69

McGee tapped for Smart Gilas
By Nelson Beltran

MANILA, Philippines - If everything falls into place, Smart Gilas Pilipinas will have the Washington Wizards’ seven-foot center JaVale McGee as naturalized player for the next FIBA Asia championship.

McGee had been in the country twice in the last four months and, in his last visit, expressed willingness to be part of the Philippine team vying for a slot in the 2014 World Championship.

The STAR source said McGee and the Smart Gilas people have reached an agreement to pursue the same direction Marcus Douthit had gone through enabling the latter to play for the Phl team in the recent Asian joust in Tianjin, China.

“If ever, we will have a taller, younger naturalized player to match up with Hamed Haddadi, Yi Jianglian and the like,” The STAR source said.

Douthit, who led the Nationals to a fourth-place finish in Tianjin, became a naturalized Filipino through an act of Congress initiated by Antipolo Rep. Robbie Puno.

The same lawmaker is likely to sponsor the bill for McGee.

The 23-year-old Flint, Michigan native is eligible to play as naturalized player for any country since he has never played for the US team.

McGee actually received invites to the US team’s mini camp in 2009 and 2010. He played in a scrimmage at Radio City Music Hall during the 2010 World Basketball Festival but failed to impress and was cut on Aug. 15, 2010.

He’s now connected with Smart-PLDT as product endorser.

He signed a contract with the telecommunication giant company only a few days back. While here, he had a meet-and-greet session with fans at the Jump Experience Center and graced a basketball clinic.

As Smart endorser, there’s also the possibility of McGee playing as import for Talk n Text in the PBA second conference if the NBA lockout is not resolved.

McGee, selected 18th overall by the Wizards in the 2008 NBA draft, first visited Manila last July as part of the NBA All-Star team that played a two-game series versus the PBA Selection and the Smart Gilas team.


In the last NBA All-Star festivities, McGee made a good showing in the slam-dunk contest, placing second to eventual winner Blake Griffin.

The Guinness Book of World Records cited McGee as the first player to stuff in three balls at one time in a dunk contest. The third ball was passed by teammate John Wall.

McGee played two years of college ball for University of Nevada in Reno then applied for eligibility in the 2008 NBA Draft.

He made a career-high of 12 blocks on March 15, 2011, and it went down as the most done by any NBA player in a game since Keon Clark got the same number on March 23, 2001.

If ever, McGee banners Smart Gilas II that may again be a mix of good amateur talents and PBA stars.

Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas and the PBA have been in touch, now laying the formula for the formation of the team.

Determined to sustain its gain in Asian basketball, SBP has made a bid to host the 2013 FIBA Asia Championship.

Dark Knight
11-06-2011, 12:36 PM
Douthit, who led the Nationals to a fourth-place finish in Tianjin, became a naturalized Filipino through an act of Congress initiated by Antipolo Rep. Robbie Puno.





very clever. could be unfair to other countries.

Tsiken
11-06-2011, 11:37 PM
Overkill na kung mag-iimport pa ang Pilipinas... sana man lang isinama ni Black isa man kay Fortuna o Teng...

Joescoundrel
01-06-2012, 02:53 PM
All things considered we still need good size across the board. Without size we're already at a disadvantage. We don't need Yao Ming or Shaquille O"Neal size but certainly we need more than Marcus Douthit and an aging Asi Taulava can provide. Greg Slaughter and Junemar Fajardo are a good start, and we could try to talk Gian Chiu into putting medical school on hold and joining the national pool. At least that gives us three guys in the 6'9", 6'10", 6'11" range who can at least match up size-wise against most Asian competition.

We might also want to try and get a hold of that Negos Chan boy from Canada, played with and against Norman Penola at different times growing up. He is reportedly a legit 6'6" who plays the wing. We can also conscript RJ Hanson of NU's B Team, who also looks like a legit 6'5" as a wing. Ditto that Keith Jensen kid out of NYU.

Among the locals I'd say the likes of Rey Parks, Kiefer Ravena, Kevin Ferrer, Jeron Teng, Paul Lee and maybe RR Garcia can fill up perimeter positions.

genom222
01-12-2012, 12:10 AM
Toroman already out as National Team Head Coach?

http://www.pba.ph/news/entry/1350


Uichico joined Chot Reyes, Ryan Gregorio and Norman Black at Smart Gilas.

B-Meg coach Tim Cone, mentor of the Philippine Centennial team that bagged the bronze medal in the
1998 Bangkok Asian Games, has also been invited.

Serbian mentor Rajko Toroman has been scratched from the list.

animo
01-26-2012, 09:21 AM
Toroman already out as National Team Head Coach?

http://www.pba.ph/news/entry/1350


Uichico joined Chot Reyes, Ryan Gregorio and Norman Black at Smart Gilas.

B-Meg coach Tim Cone, mentor of the Philippine Centennial team that bagged the bronze medal in the
1998 Bangkok Asian Games, has also been invited.

Serbian mentor Rajko Toroman has been scratched from the list.



they should have not let go of Coach Rajko. imo, hilaw pa ang mga local coaches for international competition.
anyway, who will be the new head coach?

genom222
02-22-2012, 03:22 AM
Apparently they've let go of Coach Toroman already...

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/248628/sports/basketball/chot-reyes-tabbed-to-helm-gilas-2

I dont understand the decision to have Chot replace Rajko, I dont mean to offend anyone but it seems like a downgrade for me.

Funny thing is that Coach Toroman is in Manila (he watched Douhit's first game with Air21) and it will be interesting if SMC gets his services in some kind of capacity. Probably develop another national team with SMC players in the roster?? hmmmm......

BLUE HORSE
02-22-2012, 04:11 AM
Old news. Toroman is now in the payroll of SMC as a consultant for all of the SMC teams. Question for the future, is Toroman a coach in waiting if any of the current coaches falter badly?

Joescoundrel
02-22-2012, 01:03 PM
I will reiterate my old stand here and bat for the automatic inclusion of Greg Slaughter, Junemar Fajardo and Gian Chiu in the new Smart Gilas roster, and also Japeth Aguilar.

Rey Parks, Chris Ellis, Keith Jensen, Kiefer Ravena and Kevin Ferrer should be automatically In as well.

Suddenly, after seeing them in a few more games, my jury is out on AJ Hanson and Jeron Teng. Same jury is still out as well on Chris Newsome and Jordan Heading, at least until I see more of a drive and pull-up game from them.

pio_valenz
02-22-2012, 10:33 PM
So they're replacing a coach who led the Philippines to a fourth-place finish with a coach who led the Philippines to a ninth-place finish.

Okaaay....

genom222
02-22-2012, 10:35 PM
So they're replacing a coach who led the Philippines to a fourth-place finish with a coach who led the Philippines to a ninth-place finish.

Okaaay....


Like what I said, it feels like a downgrade for me. I would have understood if it was Coach Norman but Chot Reyes? Well lets see...

Joescoundrel
02-23-2012, 07:52 AM
So they're replacing a coach who led the Philippines to a fourth-place finish with a coach who led the Philippines to a ninth-place finish.

Okaaay....


And he dresses like a dandy...

Sam Miguel
01-10-2013, 10:21 AM
Gilas taps 6-9 Fil-Am for Dubai joust

By Nelson Beltran

(The Philippine Star) | Updated January 7, 2013 - 12:00am

MANILA, Philippines - Six-foot-9 Fil-Am player Isaac Holstein has been named as the lone last addition to Smart Gilas Pilipinas team leaving for Dubai tomorrow to compete in the 2013 Dubai International Invitational championship.

A product of West Virginia State U, Holstein joins the team that includes PBA players JayR Reyes, KG Canaleta, Ronjay Buenafe, fellow cadet players Justin Melton, Matt Ganuelas, Garvo Lanete, Greg Slaughter, RR Garcia, Kevin Alas, Ronald Pascual and Jake Pascual, and naturalized Filipino Marcus Douthit.

Japeth Aguilar was also offered a slot but the former Talk n Text slotman has opted to stay in the US.

“Nobody knows what Japeth’s going to do. I don’t think even he knows what he wants to do,” said Smart Gilas coach Chot Reyes on his Twitter account.

Right after the Dubai tourney comes the Hong Kong Invitationals for the national training pool. The two international invitational meets serve as part of the buildup of Gilas for important international jousts late in the year. The elite Gilas team competes in the FIBA Asia World Cup qualifier while the cadet team defends the country’s title in the Southeast Asian Games.

“To all asking why we don’t field imports: This is a learning and preparatory tourney. Kung may import tayo, di makakalaro at matututo ang mga bata natin (If we have an import, our young players won’t be able to play and learn),” said Reyes.

In the Dubai tourney that starts Thursday, Gilas will be up against three teams from Lebanon, two from United Arab Emirates and one each from Jordan and Kazakhstan. Participating teams are allowed to field two imports.

Reyes isn’t expecting much from the team in Dubai, saying: “(We) have too much unfamiliarity to overcome and too little time.”

“But the players are trying hard,” Reyes stressed.

It would be noted that only Reyes, Ganuelas and Douthit are returnees from the Gilas squad that ruled the last Jones Cup championship in Taipei. Most of the Gilas mainstays from the PBA are not available for Dubai since they’re tied up with their mother clubs at the moment.

Dark Knight
01-16-2013, 12:43 PM
we never learn.....

Sam Miguel
02-06-2013, 10:22 AM
PBA moves Govs Cup opening so Gilas five can sharpen up

By Musong R. Castillo

11:35 pm | Tuesday, February 5th, 2013

The PBA yesterday moved the opening of the season-ending Governors’ Cup to an August-to-October playdate to give the Smart Gilas-Pilipinas team time to prepare for the Fiba-Asia World Championship qualifier set Aug. 1 to 11 in Manila.

To counter the negative effects of the new schedule as far as the exposure of the PBA teams is concerned, the league will make the Commissioner’s Cup format similar to that of the Philippine Cup, starting from Friday to May 28 at the latest.

That would give national coach Chot Reyes more than two months to whip the national squad into mean form as they try to finish at least third to earn the right to play in the World Championship scheduled next year in Madrid.

“I had a very positive and productive talk with our team owners,” PBA commissioner Chito Salud said in a statement. “Not only have they agreed to lend players, they readily OK’d moving the third conference until after the Fiba Asia tourney.”

“In this case, our owners placed national interest above all considerations. I am so proud of the PBA.”

The Fiba Asia tournament will also mark the first time in 40 years that the Philippines is hosting the continent’s biggest basketball show.

The Fiba Asia will feature the national teams of regional powers China, Iran, South Korea, Lebanon and Jordan, and part of the PH team’s preparations is the defense of its Jones Cup title in Taipei, where all of those teams could be entered.

Originally penciled to run only until April 28, the Commissioner’s Cup will now have a double round-robin elimination, giving each of the teams at least 14 games. Two of the cellar-dwelling squads will be eliminated from the playoffs.

Meanwhile, Japeth Aguilar is expected to sign a three-year, maximum contract worth about P15.1 million with Globalport in time for Friday’s opening at Smart Araneta Coliseum.

The 6-foot-9 Aguilar joined the Batang Pier in practice yesterday at the Moro Lorenzo gym.

The Batang Pier will battle powerhouse Petron Blaze at 5:15 p.m. before San Mig Coffee and Barako Bull clash at 7:30 p.m.

genom222
02-06-2013, 10:59 PM
dear gameface officionados, what do you think about the two month training and selection process for Gilas this year? Will it be enough time to make a cohesive squad? Who would you want in the line up? I personally think 2 months should be enough, if NBA training camps can build competitive teams in 2 months time then we should also be able to do it also (as if we have a choice din). As for line up, I would love to have Douhit, Fajardo and Slaughter in there with Pingris to man our frontcourt. We need to have size just in case Douhit goes into foul trouble or (knock on wood) injury. shooters? David, Fonacier, Chan should be a lock. PGs? Castro, Alapag and Tenorio or Mercado (if eligible) then I'll complete it with Arwin and Norwood for the glue guys.

So here is my 12 man line up.

Douhit
Slaughter
Fajardo
Pingris
Santos
Norwood
Castro
Alapag
Tenorio
Fonacier
Chan
David

abcdef
02-07-2013, 06:45 AM
Keepin a Talk and Text core is a good move and I think that players around the there are good team players. Surprised that Ranidel was not included.

Dark Knight
02-07-2013, 01:25 PM
Same result as before. The only thing going for this team is they will have the homecourt advantage. We keep on building INSTANT team. Geez......just watch our professionals get beaten again by international amateur teams.

franz_inwurdz
02-07-2013, 04:11 PM
http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/japeth-reyes-surprise-choices-as-gilas-coach-reyes-bares-fiba-asia-lineup-v02

My Rotation

Center : Douthit - no doubt/ Fajardo / Thoss
PF: Pingris - for defense, Thoss For additional scoring punch, Ranidel - scoring and definitely when Douthit is resting on the bench.
SF: if PF is Pingris i'd play Ranidel in this position, if Thoss is PF, i'd play Williams
SG: Jeff Chan/Dillinger(better defender)/Gary David
PG: Jason Castro/LA tenorio

Fonacier and Reyes will play in the 1 and 2 position if the opponents scorer is a 1 or 2.

genom222
02-08-2013, 12:35 AM
http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/chot-reyes-names-smart-gilas-pilipinas-lineup-for-fiba-asia-7-talk-n-text-players-lead-pool

So the 17 man line up goes like this:

Marcus Douthit
Jimmy Alapag - TNT
Larry Fonacier- TNT
Ranidel De Ocampo- TNT
Ryan Reyes- TNT
Jared Dillinger - TNT
Kelly Williams - TNT
Jason Castro - TNT
Jeff Chan - ROS
Gabe Norwood - ROS
Gary David - Global Port
Japeth Aguilar - Global Port
Marc Pingris - SanMigCoffee
Sonny Thoss - Alaska
LA Tenorio - Ginebra
June Mar Fajardo - Petron
Greg Slaughter - NLEX

First of all, Japeth??? WTF???

Also, 7 from TNT? I think that was a good choice to make. Chot can have the option of fielding in 4 players from TNT at a time together with Douhit if we need to catch a lead or build one. But is it wise to go with Ryan Reyes instead of Arwind? I get why Reyes was included, he can guard the bigger guards but is he better than Arwind in that department? Plus Arwin has better offensive tools.

Another thing, 3 PGs??? I assume one of them does not get to be in the final 12 man line up but who? I think Alapag should be a shoo-in and I love CAstro's offensive explosions. I would leave LA out of the final line up if it were up to me. Same with Slaughter and Japeth.

Depth Chart:

PG: Alapag, Castro, Tenorio
SG: Chan, David, Fonacier, Reyes
SF: Norwood, Dillinger, De Ocampo
PF: Williams, Pingris, Thoss, Aguilar
C: Douhit, Slaughter, Fajardo

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EDIT: I would retain a 3 PG lineup and drop De Ocampo/Thoss instead.

oca
02-10-2013, 09:22 AM
This is a tall and athletic team. Kung measuring tape at weighing scale ang batayan, this line-up will match up well with the competition.

Pero kung paano ibubuslo ang bola, palaisipan pa rin yan.

I am not a fan of the dribble/ drive offense. Okay yan pag tao-tao depensa ng kalaban, pag nag-zona yan, patay ka. If that zone forces you to shoot from 20-ft out, the percentages will not be on your side.

I would want an offense that positions specific players at 10 to 15 ft for the catch and shoot. Pero di ko nakita yan sa systema ni Chot. Either low post, drive, long 2 or 3 pointer lang options ni Chot. The first two will be not be available sa international play. At tatalunin ka ng percentages sa long-2 at 3-pointer.

Bawi sa depensa? Tayo lang ba marunong dumepensa? Mas may disiplina pa nga sa depensa ang mga middle east teams kaysa sa atin.

Having more options to score is the key in international play. Player and location. Sino-sino pwede imiskor, at saan sila iiskor. Shaded area or long 2/ 3ptr lang ba?

Yung pagitan niyan ay napakalawak na espasyo. Pero catch and shoot lang ang option dyan dahil maliit ang circumference ng depensa kaya mabilis at madali ang adjustment.

Sino ba sa pool ni Chot ang maasahan sa 10-15 ft range at nakakakuha ng rhythm kahit hindi i-dribol ang bola?

Kung meron, ilan?

Imo, our chances lies there. The fewer options we have in there, the lesser our chances of replicating 1973.

animo
04-29-2013, 08:40 PM
Jared Dillinger and Kelly Williams are out. who do you think will replace them?

abcdef
04-30-2013, 01:12 PM
I think there is no need to replace them. . . this 15 man line up would suffice.

Sam Miguel
05-06-2013, 09:42 AM
Chan triple gives Gilas 124-tie with PBA stars

By Musong R. Castillo

Philippine Daily Inquirer

10:42 pm | Sunday, May 5th, 2013

DIGOS, Davao del Sur—Gilas-Pilipinas got the tuneup it needed in its first game together and engaged the PBA Selection in a match that fittingly capped the league’s All-Star Weekend here last night.

The Nationals came back from 11 points down early in the fourth quarter and needed a triple from Jeff Chan with six-tenths of a second remaining to forge a 124-all tie in the Annual Classic before thousands of thrilled fans at Davao del Sur Coliseum.

Arwind Santos, the man with the strongest case for inclusion to the national pool, starred in the fourth quarter for the Selection, who couldn’t cling to a 122-116 lead with 49.2 seconds left and settled for the deadlock.

Santos and Chan later shared the MVP award of the game, which took a very serious twist in the fourth period with the Selection coming so close to dealing the Nationals a loss in their first official outing together.

Naturalized 6-foot-10 center Marcus Douthit didn’t play, along with the injured Jimmy Alapag, and the Nationals got more than what they bargained for against the game Selection as they trailed, 92-103, after two Santos free throws off Chan with 9:39 left.

“That’s the characteristic of this team, the resoluteness,” national coach Chot Reyes said. “What was exposed in this game is our inability to play defense.”

The Nationals didn’t have their surnames printed at the back of their jerseys, nor played with the numbers they usually carry with their mother teams in the PBA.

The dance numbers of both teams before the start of the game—a tradition for close to a decade now—pumped up the sell-out crowd with the Nationals’ rendition of noontime variety show Eat Bulaga’s child wonder Ryzza Mae Dizon’s “cha-cha” almost bringing the house down.

Marc Pingris, whose father-in-law Vic Sotto is one of the top-rating show’s hosts, choreographed the routine where he put himself and fellow big men Marcus Douthit, Sonny Thoss, June Mar Fajardo and Japeth Aguilar gyrating at midcourt.

Alaska ace JV Casio and teammates Mayor Roel Paras and Paolo Anota earlier won the Shooting Stars contest after Casio drained the halfcourt shot for a total time of 65 seconds. They nipped the Arwind Santos-led team of Councilor Mark Montecillo and Robert Teo, which timed 1:18.

Rookies Chris Tiu of Rain or Shine and Chris Ellis of Barangay Ginebra on Friday won the Three-Point Shootout and Slam Dunk titles, respectively, and Barako Bull veteran Jonas Villanueva ruled the Obstacle Challenge for an unprecedented fourth straight year.

The scores:

PBA ALL-STARS 124—Santos 27, Canaleta 20, Cabagnot 15, Belga 15, Ellis 9, Abueva 9, Casio 9, Baguio 9, Lassiter 6, Caguioa 3, Yap 2.

GILAS-PILIPINAS 124—Fonacier 18, David 17, De Ocampo 14, Thoss 11, Castro 11, Pingris 10, Tenorio 10, Norwood 10, Chan 9, Fajardo 9, Aguilar 5.

Quarters: 31-33; 65-66; 95-89; 124-124

Sam Miguel
05-06-2013, 09:43 AM
Douthit rues absence of Williams, Dillinger

By Musong R. Castillo

1:33 am | Sunday, May 5th, 2013

DIGOS, Davao Del Sur—Marcus Douthit believes that Kelly Williams and Jared Dillinger are irreplaceable components of the Gilas-Pilipinas squad, but injuries to both Talk ‘N Text stalwarts have not diminished his belief in the National team.

“Every time I step on the (basketball) floor for the Philippines, I think we can pull it off,” Douthit said yesterday. “I have never had a doubt in my mind that we can’t (win). If we start to doubt ourselves, we don’t give ourselves a real opportunity to win the game.

“If you think that way (negatively), you already lost even before you step on the basketball floor.”

Douthit said that Williams and Dillinger are very unique players in the PBA, and that there’s no way that they can be replaced in the pool by just taking two players from outside the original 17-man pool from which Chot Reyes will select from.

“The thing about this team is that nobody plays similar,” Douthit said. “Everybody brings different things and that makes the coach’s job a little bit harder because now, certain things that they do, we don’t have.”

Williams has taken an indefinite leave from Talk ‘N Text because of his blood disease, while Dillinger has been declared out for the rest of the year after damaging his pelvic bone in a vehicular accident two weeks ago.

“Everybody is a bit similar, like Ping (Marc Pingris) and Japeth (Aguilar),” Douthit continued. “Ping has the energy that Kelly has. Ping got the fight that Kelly has, but Ping is not as tall and as big as Kelly.

“Now Japeth, he’s as tall as Kelly, but he doesn’t have the fight,” he said. “Arwind (Santos) is shorter than Kelly, but he has the fight.”

Sam Miguel
05-07-2013, 08:18 AM
Gilas-PH rips Shanghai five

Yao fires Olympic challenge

By June Navarro

Philippine Daily Inquirer

11:33 pm | Monday, May 6th, 2013

Marcus Douthit saw the leather slip from his grasp countless times; Gabe Norwood lost possession twice on the sidelines; and Kevin Alas had his share of miscues at the backcourt.

Through it all, the error-prone Gilas Pilipinas subdued the Shanghai Sharks, 80-72, last night in the Philippine-China Friendship Games at Mall of Asia Arena in Pasay.

Overly erratic were the Nationals that coach Chot Reyes even howled at table officials to change the ball with less than two minutes left in the game.

Japeth Aguilar scored the insurance basket in the dying seconds with a floater in the lane.

“These guys practiced for just three days but they still did well,” said Reyes after the national five committed 19 turnovers, many of them in the last period when the Sharks fought back from 19 points down.

The Sharks came to life in the fourth behind the snipings of Meng Lingyuan and the inside presence of 7-foot-3 Zhang Zhaoxu.

But Reyes was happy that his frontline held its ground against the tall Sharks. Seven-footer Greg Slaughter, 6-11 Junmar Fajardo and the 6-9 Aguilar exceeded Reyes’ expectations.

“Nobody can block Junmar in the PBA. He now knows what it feels to get blocked by players taller than him,” said Reyes, who has barely three months left to whip Gilas into shape for the Fiba Asia Championship in Manila.

“Personally, I want to see how the future of Philippine basketball will fare against taller and tough opponents,” said Reyes, referring to Aguilar, Fajardo and Slaughter. “I was very pleased because the three of them acquitted themselves very well.”

Meanwhile, Sharks’ owner and former NBA star Yao Ming said the only way for the Philippines to qualify for the 2016 Olympics in Rio de Janeiro is to bring towering China to its knees in the Fiba Asia Championship finals.

China had clinched the only continental seat since the 1984 Summer Games in Los Angeles. The exception was in the 2008 Beijing Olympics when Iran won the berth. China was given an automatic Olympic slot as host nation.

“I have to reconsider whether or not to give this suggestion: You have to beat Team China first,” Yao said through an interpreter.

The scores:

GILAS 80—David 14, Fajardo 11, Norwood 11, Aguilar 11, Lanete 10, Chan 9, Garcia 8, Douthit 2, Ganuelas 2, Slaughter 2, Alas 0, J. Pascual 0, R. Pascual 0.

SHARKS 72—Zhang 17, Lingyuan 14, Ligang 11, Yang 9, Sizhang 8, Laing 6, Yuan 3, Yang 2, Yi 2.

Quarters: 20-14, 43-30, 71-52, 80-72.

bchoter
05-07-2013, 10:45 AM
"...barely three months left to whip Gilas into shape for the Fiba Asia Championship"... same old same old. Pero cheer pa rin ng cheer :)... same old, same old...

MrM
05-07-2013, 10:53 AM
Sir, sabi nga ni Magoo Marjon nung PBA All-Star Game, "It's not Pilipinas basketball if it's not come-from-behind." ...which is sad. (He was probably joking but jokes are half-meant. ;) )

animo
05-07-2013, 05:15 PM
"...barely three months left to whip Gilas into shape for the Fiba Asia Championship"... same old same old. Pero cheer pa rin ng cheer :)... same old, same old...

don't you think its a psy war?

Dark Knight
05-08-2013, 12:39 PM
Gilas won in a friendly match. Is there something to cheer about?

“These guys practiced for just three days but they still did well,” said Reyes. Talking about long term prep?

Like i said before,the Philippines wont make it to the Olympics in 48 years.

Sam Miguel
09-27-2013, 10:17 AM
Lack of players forces Gilas to skip Fiba-Asia Champions Cup

From: Richard Dy

September 7, 2013, 12:59 pm

FOLLOWING its successful campaign in the world championship qualifier, Gilas Pilipinas chose to beg off from competing in the 24th Fiba-Asia Champions Cup set in Amman, Jordan next week.

The unavailability of players for the September 13-21 tournament was the reason team manager Butch Antonio cited for the non-participation of the country in the meet last staged in Manila in 2011.

Antonio said until this week, only five players are on stand-by for Gilas led by cadet players Garvo Lanete, Ronald Pascual, Jake Pascual, Kevin Alas, and possibly Greg Slaughter.

Former UAAP Most Valuable Player RR Garcia, who is also part of the cadet pool, is currently playing for Far Eastern University.

“Gilas is not going for sure (to the Fiba Asia Champions Cup). We can’t form a team kasi walang players. Di mo naman sila mabulabog,” Antonio said, referring to several college players whom Gilas coach Chot Reyes has invited to join the cadet team.

Reyes himself is currently on a personal vacation in Europe.

The country's failure to participate in the tournament it won four times in the past comes on the heels of Gilas Pilipinas' runner-up finish in the recent 27th Fiba-Asia Championship in Manila that clinched for the national team a berth to the 2014 Fiba-World Cup in Spain.

Reyes recently tweeted in his account @coachot several names of possible players to be included in the cadet pool, although most of them are playing for their respective mother schools in the ongoing UAAP and NCAA basketball seasons.

Among those invited by Reyes to join the cadet team are FEU stalwart Terrence Romeo, Ateneo star Kiefer Ravena and rookie Fil-Am Chris Newsome, La Salle big man Arnold Van Opstal, NCAA MVP candidate Raymund Almazan from Letran and University of Santo Tomas big man Kevin Ferrer.

Antonio said originally, the Philippines was supposed to be represented by Asean Basketball League champion San Miguel Beer as part of its incentive for winning the title.

But with the Beermen already breaking their championship core following the transfer of several key players back to the PBA led by ABL Most Valuable Player Asi Taulava, the team eventually begged off from playing in the week-long meet.

Nine teams have already confirmed to join the Fiba Asia Champions Cup led by Foolad Mahan of Iran, Qatar’s Al Rayyan, Iraqi club team Duhok, Brunei’s Al Hala, Syria’s Al Jaish, Mongolia’s SBL Khas Broncos, BC Capchagay of Kazakhstan, Applied Science University of Jordan, and ONGC of India.

The Philippines is a four-time tournament champion after winning the titles in 1984, 1988, 1995 and 1996.

Smart Gilas of coach Rajko Toroman made the semis and finished fourth the last time the country saw action in the tournament that was held here two years ago.

Sam Miguel
09-27-2013, 10:27 AM
^^^ Hmm... this is just plain wrong.

These are the guys we have now: Garvo Lanete, Ronald Pascual, Jake Pascual, Kevin Alas, and possibly Greg Slaughter.

We also have guys like Nico Salva, Justin Chua, Oping Sumalinog, Tonino Gonzaga, Joshua Webb, Jovet Mendoza, Mike Gamboa, Mike Silungan, Alvin Padilla, Rob Celiz, Joseph Terso, Cocoy Hermosisima, Alvin Magat, Jay Mo Eguilos, Lucas Tagarda, Ken Acibar, Jeric Fortuna, Ian Sangalang, Jeff Viernes, Edwin Asoro, Raymond Aguilar, Michael Miranda, Anthony Del Rio, Raymond Maconocido, Carlo Lastimosa, Leo Avenido, Niel Raneses, Rex Leynes, Raymond Ilagan, and a whole host of other guys who had enough time to prepare for a nine-day tournament.

I'm sure if Gilas had budgeted say even just P30,000 per player we could have formed a team as early as the summer, which would have given the team at least three or four months of preparation, if only so the country could send a team to this tournament.

How the heck could we lack for good players? Good players are what we have a surfeit of in this country!

Sam Miguel
10-02-2013, 09:02 AM
June Navarro, we would like to inform you that Jericho Cruz is from Adamson, not FEU - - -

Douthit, Romeo spearhead SEA Games five

By June Navarro

Philippine Daily Inquirer

9:46 pm | Tuesday, October 1st, 2013

MARCUS Douthit will man the slot for the Philippines in the 27th Southeast Asian Games.

Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas executive director Sonny Barrios yesterday named the 6-foot-10 naturalized center to the men’s basketball team in the Burma games on Dec. 11 to 22 along with 18 other aspirants.

Gilas cadet players Kevin Alas, RR Garcia, Jake Pascual, Garvo Lanete, Ronald Pascual and Matt Roser were also enlisted along with top collegiate stars Kiefer Ravena of Ateneo, UAAP MVP Terrence Romeo of FEU, Roi Sumang of UE, Prince Caperal (Arellano), Kevin Ferrer (UST), Jericho Cruz (FEU), Arnold Van Opstal (La Salle), Mark Belo (FEU) and Chris Newsome (Ateneo).

Barrios said Filipino-American Chris Banchero, NU’s Ray Parks and Raymond Almazan of Letran are considering entering the PBA rookie draft next month, a move that would require the SBP to seek clearance from the pro league.

“We will ask if the PBA could lend the rookie draftees,” said Barrios during the PSA Forum at Shakey’s Malate.

Multititled PBA coach Jong Uichico was named head coach of the team with Nash Racela and Josh Reyes as assistants.

The 19-man lineup will be forwarded to the Philippine Olympic Committee-Philippine Sports Commission task force before the Oct. 10 deadline, said Barrios.

“There’s no need to finalize the 12 players yet,” said Barrios.

Barrios declined to explain the absence of 6-foot-11 Greg Slaughter of Ateneo. Siblings Jeric and Jeron Teng of UST and La Salle, respectively, were also left out along with 6-foot-6 Ian Sangalang of San Sebastian.

MrM
10-13-2013, 12:26 PM
With Junemar Fajardo improving by leaps and bounds in just one conference, I'm excited to see how he'll be used and perform in the FIBA World Cup next year. He's almost the complete package - post moves, positioning for the rebound, jump shots (may pagka-Dirk Nowitzki nga in some instances), even just his nose for the ball. Dehado pa rin tayo in the world stage but we'll put up a good show.

Joescoundrel
11-12-2013, 09:26 AM
Ferrer puts skirmishes with Parks behind him after rivals named to SEAG team

From: Reuben Terrado

November 8, 2013, 01:15 pm

FIERCE foes in the recent UAAP Final Four, Kevin Ferrer and Bobby Ray Parks now find themselves on the same side after the two college stars were named to the Philippine basketball team bound for the 27th Southeast Asian Games in Myanmar.

Ferrer was quick to welcome the opportunity of playing alongside the two-time UAAP MVP, reiterating there was nothing personal with their physical encounters that saw No. 4 seed team University of Santo Tomas negate the twice-to-beat edge of top seed National University to advance to the Finals.

“Sa akin naman, hindi naman ako namemersonal. Kapag teammates, teammates. Kapag kalaban, kalaban,” Ferrer said to Spin.ph after the PBA D-League Aspirants Cup game on Thursday between his team Blackwater and Wang’s Basketball.

During the Final Four, the action got so heated Parks accused Ferrer of playing ‘dirty’ on defense during the series opener between the Bulldogs and the Tigers.

But Ferrer was quick to play down the incident, saying he’s putting behind him whatever happened in the semifinals since the two of them will now be representing the country and fighting for a common cause.

“Pride na ng bansa kasi ang pinag-uusapan dito,” said the UST stalwart.

Ferrer also said he is willing to play any role in the team, even if it meant being back-up to Parks during the biennial meet.

“Ako naman ‘yung parang back-up. Basta kung sino man, basta nakasuporta ako sa kanya,” Ferrer said.

Ferrer admitted being surprised when he first learned on Thursday he was selected as part of the team’s 12-man lineup to be handled by coach Jong Uichico.

“RP na naman, tapos i-re-represent ko na naman ang bansa,” said Ferrer, who had been part of the Philippine youth and national 3-on-3 teams in the past.

Aside from playing with fellow college players, Ferrer is also excited to suit up alongside Gilas cadet players Kevin Alas, Garvo Lanete, Jake Pascual, and Ronald Pascual, as well as naturalized player Marcus Douthit.

“Mga idol ko ‘yung mga ‘yun. Parang sobrang saya na akala mo nananaginip ka,” said Ferrer.

The country has long been a basketball power in the SEA Games since it began competing in the meet in 1977, although the UST star vowed not to take any teams lightly.

“Sa SEA Games naman, kailangan pukpok pa rin kahit sino ang kalaban. Dapat hindi kami makuntento o mag-kumpiyansa. Gagawin namin ang lahat,” said Ferrer.

Sam Miguel
02-04-2014, 10:46 AM
NBA pair of McGee, Blatche to fortify Gilas bid

By Musong R. Castillo

Philippine Daily Inquirer

3:34 am | Tuesday, February 4th, 2014

MANILA, Philippines — Pending the approval of two naturalization bills by Congress, Gilas Pilipinas will be reinforced by either JaVale McGee or Andray Blatche in the World Championship in Spain and the Asian Games in South Korea later this year.

Antipolo Rep. Robbie Puno filed House Bills 3783 and 3784 seeking the naturalization of McGee and Blatche, respectively, as either one would take over Marcus Douthit for the Nationals.

It was also Puno who sponsored the bill that led to the naturalization of Douthit, who helped the country get back to the world stage after close to four decades by finishing second to Iran in the Fiba Asia Championship last year.

“We all saw what Marcus Douthit did for the Philippine team in the Fiba Asia last year,” said Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas chair Manny V. Pangilinan. “McGee and Blatche can further strengthen Gilas and boost our chances in Spain.”

The SBP has until June 30 to submit its roster for the World Championship.

“JaVale and Andray were chosen for their unique combination of size and skill, plus the all-important factor of wanting to play for the Philippines,” said Gilas coach Chot Reyes.

“Both can play but we will have to pick only one per tournament.”

The 26-year-old McGee, a Denver Nuggets regular, is an agile 7-footer who has been one of the NBA’s leading shot blockers since 2008, while the 6-11 Blatche is a demon off the offensive boards.

yungha
02-04-2014, 04:20 PM
i'd much prefer another douthit-type reinforcement, someone who'll stay and live in the country, but younger.

we have a troika of young big men in slaughter, fajardo and aguilar. they'll be good for at least 10 more years and even get stronger and better. with these 3 in tow, do you think we can also now consider getting another type of naturalized, such as a tall and strong george hill-type point guard or a lights-out shooter like jj redick or jodie meeks or maybe an athletic do-it-all small forward like iguodala.

Dark Knight
02-08-2014, 03:04 PM
We really need reinforcements from non Flipinos to win in international competitions. Its like saying we dont have the capacity to win with an ALL FILIPINO crew.

For the World Championships, i predict a winless campaign. OK, maybe 1 win. Starting with Argentina.

Joescoundrel
02-10-2014, 11:27 AM
Cebu cage officials vow to oppose bill seeking naturalization of McGee, Blatche

From: Jonas Panerio

February 3, 2014, 05:18 pm

TWO top basketball officials from the South have vowed to oppose in Congress two bills seeking the naturalization of NBA players Javale McGee and Andray Blatche, who are being eyed to reinforce Gilas Pilipinas in the Fiba-World Cup later this year.

University of Cebu basketball team manager Baldomero Estenzo and Cebu Schools Athletic Foundation Inc. (Cesafi) commissioner Felix Tiukinhoy said they will send a petition to the House Committee opposing the two bills filed last week by Antipolo City representative Robbie Puno.

“They’re toying around with our citizenship. We know that this is a numbers game and chances are, we will lose. But we just want everybody to know that there are people in this country who oppose these bills,” Estenzo, one of the founders of Cesafi, told Spin.ph on Monday afternoon.

Estenzo, who is also the Dean of University of Cebu's College of Law, added: “Sports is all about following the rules. Why can’t we do that here? Why can’t we just follow the process? Why, will we be champions if we get these players?”

The UC official pointed out the 1954 Philippine team that competed in the Fiba-World Cup (then known as the World Basketball Championship) won the bronze medal behind a roster composed of Filipinos.

“Look at the 1954 team. We won the bronze medal with an all-Filipino team,” he said, referring to the squad bannered by the legendary Carlos `The Big Difference’ Loyzaga which beat Uruguay, 67-63, in the battle for third place.

The bronze medal finish remains until now the highest finish achieved by any Asian country in the quadrennial showpiece.

In backing Estenzo's view, Tiukinhoy noted the House bill shows how basketball leaders in the country are "blinded" by their desire for fame and glory.

“I agree with Estenzo on his move to oppose the naturalization bill for these two NBA players. I will join him in signing the petition to oppose the naturalization bill filed in Congress,” he said.

“Some of our basketball sports leaders do not value our (Filipino) citizenship anymore. It is now given away to anybody just for temporary reasons. They are blinded already just to attain fame and glory for themselves,” the longtime Cesafi commissioner said in a statement.

The move to tap the Denver Nuggets' McGee and Blatche of the Brooklyn Nets as naturalized players was announced by national coach Chot Reyes last week during his meeting with the PBA board of governors.

Such a petition could derail the plans of Gilas officials, who are in a race against time to have the naturalization of McGee and Blatche passed by the two houses of Congress before the World Cup set from August 30 to September 14.

Deadline for the submission of lineups is on July 30.

Joescoundrel
02-10-2014, 11:27 AM
^ I think I missed it. The two Cebuanos are opposed to this move because...?

Joescoundrel
02-10-2014, 11:29 AM
Legend Mon Fernandez says move to tap McGee, Blatche for Gilas the 'wrong approach'

From: Snow Badua

February 6, 2014, 04:09 pm

Instead of tapping NBA players, cage legend Mon Fernandez says the chance to play against the globe's best players in the World Cup in Spain in August should be used to hone and develop the current crop of national players.

CAGE legend Mon Fernandez on Thursday aired his doubts over the move to tap NBA players Javale McGee and Andray Blatche as future naturalized players for Gilas Pilipinas, saying it is a "wrong approach" that may only prove counter-productive for the country's basketball program.

A member of the Philippine team that reached the world championships in 1974 in Puerto Rico, Fernandez said the chance to play against the globe's best players in the World Cup in Spain in August should be used to hone and develop the current crop of national players.

They Said It!

“"Mawawalan lang ng opportunity ang mga kababayan natin (if we tap the two NBA players). 'Yung experience na ma-gain ng kababayan natin sa mga international tournaments like the world championships, 'yun ang mas importante sa akin!" Ramon Fernandez

"Mawawalan lang ng opportunity ang mga kababayan natin dyan (if we tap the two NBA players)," said the four-time PBA MVP. "'Yung experience na ma-gain ng kababayan natin sa mga international tournaments like the world championships, 'yun ang mas importante sa akin!"

“Meron na tayong malalaking players, merun na tayong 6-4 at 6-5 na point guard … 6-7 at 6-8 na forward, tapos mayroon pa tayong June Mar Fajardo at Greg Slaughter.

“Sayang lang pera natin sa dalawang NBA player na 'yun. Ano ba ang purpose nila at mission para kumuha ng NBA player? Will we land in the top two o top three with those players?” Fernandez asked.

Realistically, Fernandez said the Philippines can't hope to beat the world's basketball superpowers even with McGee and Blatche in the lineup.

The national team program, he added, should instead focus on the quest to do well in Asia, with the fund to be allotted for the two NBA players channeled towards the development of future players.

“Ambisyunin na lang natin ang Asia, it’s even hard at it is. Asia pa lang mabigat ng battleground sa akin, 'pag nag-qualify tayo sa world (championships) at Olympics, that’s already a bonus,” Fernandez said.

“Si Marcus Douthit lang okay na 'yan. Or after Douthit, okay lang mag-naturalize ng iba … pero sa akin nga, kahit hindi na. Ang ambisyunin lang natin Asia. 'Wag na yung world stage,” added the PBA legend who is now based in the South managing his flourishing ‘Suka ni El Presidente’ business.

“Hindi rin tayo makakuha ng decent placing with two or three NBA players in the pool.”

Fernandez also doubts if Gilas can count on the full commitment of McGee and Blatche, who are playing for the Denver Nuggets and Brooklyn Nets, respectively.

“Definitely, yung commitments ng mga yun questionable na. I suppose they will allow those guys to continue playing in the NBA and play only for the Philippines during international competitions,” he said.

“Magpapakamatay ba yung mga yun para sa atin, sa tingin niyo? Siyempre, baka matakot lang yan na mapilayan dito, mawala pa NBA career nila,” said Fernandez, a member of the PBA's 25 Greatest Players.

“How much are we paying those guys? Personally, I think it’s a wrong approach. Baka magsisi lang tayo dyan in the end.”

Joescoundrel
02-10-2014, 11:30 AM
^ At least this Cebuano seems to have clear and specific reasons for not wanting the two NBA players.

Dark Knight
02-10-2014, 11:48 AM
Gusto ba nating mga Pilipino na kaya tayo nanalo sa basketball ay dahil may katulong tayong mga banyaga. Kahit naturalized yan, WALANG dugong pilipino yan. Nakakahiya.

Ang China ba may mga dayuhang manlalaro? Sariling sikap kaya sila naging matagumpay. Eh tayo? Kung wala pang reinforcement ng mga Kano di pa tayo mananalo.

Tapos sasabihin nyong para sa BAYAN? Sinong niloko nyo? Nakakahiya...gagawin lahat manalo lang kahit di patas sa ibang bansa.

abcdef
02-11-2014, 10:36 AM
Gusto ba nating mga Pilipino na kaya tayo nanalo sa basketball ay dahil may katulong tayong mga banyaga. Kahit naturalized yan, WALANG dugong pilipino yan. Nakakahiya.

Ang China ba may mga dayuhang manlalaro? Sariling sikap kaya sila naging matagumpay. Eh tayo? Kung wala pang reinforcement ng mga Kano di pa tayo mananalo.

Tapos sasabihin nyong para sa BAYAN? Sinong niloko nyo? Nakakahiya...gagawin lahat manalo lang kahit di patas sa ibang bansa.

Di patas? I think the rule dictates that it is fair to have one naturalized player so I do not think we are doing any country an injustice by having a naturalized player.

We are not a nation of tall people and we needed a reinforcement/naturalized player who is tall.

If we used players that are Fil-Shams , then we are cheating. . . . .

AnthonyServinio
02-27-2014, 10:33 PM
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Joescoundrel
03-10-2014, 03:44 PM
Gusto ba nating mga Pilipino na kaya tayo nanalo sa basketball ay dahil may katulong tayong mga banyaga. Kahit naturalized yan, WALANG dugong pilipino yan. Nakakahiya.

Ang China ba may mga dayuhang manlalaro? Sariling sikap kaya sila naging matagumpay. Eh tayo? Kung wala pang reinforcement ng mga Kano di pa tayo mananalo.

Tapos sasabihin nyong para sa BAYAN? Sinong niloko nyo? Nakakahiya...gagawin lahat manalo lang kahit di patas sa ibang bansa.

During Rajko Toroman's time as Iran national coach at least half his roster was made up of Armenian Christians. All naturalized, against FIBA rules.

How'd I know they were Christians? Because after timeouts a lot of them made the sign of the cross. I'm pretty sure the Ayatolah didn't teach them that.

Joescoundrel
03-10-2014, 03:45 PM
Did San Miguel have a hand in Slaughter, Lassiter decision to pull out of Gilas pool?

From: Spin.ph staff

March 7, 2014, 08:39 pm

RUMOR: San Miguel Corp. was behind the decision of Greg Slaughter and Marcio Lassiter to pull out of the Gilas Pilipinas pool to the Fiba World Cup and Asian Games.

FACTS: When Greg Slaughter of Ginebra and San Miguel guard Marcio Lassiter pulled out one after the other from the Gilas Pilipinas pool on Friday night, accusing fingers were inevitably pointed at San Miguel Corp. as being behind the decision.

The suspicion, of course, is understandable.

The giant conglomerate, which owns three teams in the PBA and controls as much as six if you believe talk in the grapevine, had not been too eager to lend players to this version of the national team which, it should be pointed out, is run by people associated with the rival MVP group.

For the team to the last Fiba-Asia championships alone, San Miguel's three teams loaned a grand total of four players to Gilas, namely Marc Pingris from San Mig, June Mar Fajardo from Petron/San Miguel, and LA Tenorio and Japeth Aguilar from Barangay Ginebra.

However, it should be pointed out that Aguilar and Tenorio were already part of the Gilas pool even before they moved to the Ginebra camp. In effect, the San Miguel teams never really went beyond the one-player-per-team policy agreed upon by the league board.

Now comes the new Gilas Pilipinas pool where national coach Chot Reyes added five players to the original lineup that finished second to Iran in the last Fiba Asia championship in Manila, thereby earning a place among the world's finest in the Fiba World Cup in Spain.

Interestingly, from the five new faces Rain or Shine's Paul Lee and Beau Belga as well as Meralco's Jared Dillinger jumped at the chance to suit up for Gilas while the two players from San Miguel-controlled teams - Slaughter and Lassiter - have suddenly dropped out.

Lassiter made a quick denial when asked if management had a hand in his decision to quit the pool, saying it "wouldn't feel right" if he denies a Gilas original a ticket to Spain while citing his battle with injuries as having had a hand in his decision.

"This wasn't management decision but this is a personal decision," he insisted. "SMC has not had anything to do with this decision."

Contacted for comment, Reyes said he "respected" the two's decision.

"You know me, it's never my style to force anyone to play for my teams," said the Gilas coach, sticking to his official line but unable to resist putting out a cryptic comment near the end of the short conversation with Spin.ph.

"Now you know how hard my job is," he chuckled.

To be fair, the reason put forward by the two was noble enough. Slaughter and Lassiter said they didn't want to take away spots from the Original Twelve that worked so hard to bring the Philippines back to the world championships after nearly four decades of absence.

However, that same line is double-edged, to say the least, since it has now put Lee, Belga, and Dillinger in very awkward no-win positions.

With Slaughter and Lassiter's decision to step aside, the three may have been unwittingly painted as the 'bad guys' for showing the willingness to compete with the Original Twelve for spots in the Spain-bound team.

Also, team insiders also pointed out that if it was Slaughter and Lassiter's intention to let the Original Twelve have the honor of playing in the World Cup as reward for their hard work in the Fiba Asia championships, they could have stepped aside for Spain tournament and made themselves available for the Asian Games in Incheon, South Korea where their services are certainly needed by Gilas.

According to league insiders, Reyes was left stunned when Slaughter and Lassiter informed him of their decision to pull out of the pool during Gilas' first practice on Monday. He accepted the two's decisions but at the same time told them to be the ones to "explain their decisions" to the people, the source added.

One person close to Reyes perhaps summed up the national coach's feeling.

"Si Slaughter at Lassiter pa lang 'yan. Si Slaughter nga kasama pa sa original pool," he said. "Papaano pa kung kinuha n'ya si Mark Barroca, Arwind Santos, etc."

But more than the effect the two withdrawals will have on the Gilas campaign, the development have once again showed the divisions within a board that, after the Fiba Asia success, had vowed to stand solidly behind Gilas and the national team program.

Regardless of whether the suspicions on San Miguel are true or not, the lines in the league have sadly once again been drawn again, with Gilas caught in the middle. And expect the divisions to show between now and the national team's campaign in the World Cup and the Asian Games.

So is SMC behind the decision for the duo's pullout?

Your guess is as good as ours.

AnthonyServinio
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genom222
08-16-2014, 01:37 PM
We had a great opening in our pocket tournament against France, only loss by 7 pts! Kudos to the team, sarap panoorin na nakikipagsabayan tayo sa Euro champions. If eto kaya yun lineup natin last year sa FIBA Asia, nagchampion kaya tayo?

Dark Knight
08-18-2014, 11:57 PM
Pupulutin sa kangkungan ang Gila's Pilipinas come FIBA World Cup. Itaya ko pa doorknob namin.

abcdef
08-19-2014, 06:39 AM
Its an unspoken knowledge but I am pretty sure we wont give up without a fight. Mahiya naman sila sa U-17 natin.

genom222
09-06-2014, 03:40 PM
Well that was fun :) daming lumabas na basketball analysts the past week hehe.

I think we exceeded our expectations in the world cup. I always said one win would make the trip worthwhile and we got that. But those close games really exceeded my expectations! We could have easily been 3-2 or even 4-1 sayang but still i am happy with what happened and damn proud of the boys for showing what "puso" is all about. The victory here is showing the world that hey we might be not tall but we know how to ball. LUMABAN TAYO bawat game and thats all we could really ask for.

Now lets get that elusive gold in the Asian games!

i-point
09-07-2014, 08:51 PM
^^^Pinulot nga ba sa kangkungan?

reforms
09-08-2014, 06:52 AM
Sa mga Negatron dyan, ano na? Parang mga di Pilipino amp.

Bago pa lang magsimula ang world cup, para sakin basta lumaban lang kahit matambakan tayo solb na ko e.

E kitang kita naman na lumaban.

Muntik pa manalo sa naunang mga laro.

E nanalo pa. Ayun, ang sarap lalo.

abcdef
09-08-2014, 12:00 PM
Slaughter declaring he is ready to play for Gilas. . .will Marcio come back? We need another Gabe Norwood, and with Kraken being finaly unleashed. . . All we need to do is continue building the Pipeline :)

MVP has signified his intention to bring international coaches to the Philippines through his basketball teams. . . It is inevitable. If we want to suceed we need to upgrade our Coaching and training. We saw what we lacked this past World Cup. We have the Heart BUT we do not have the Smart(s) (no pun intended). . Sana naman wala ng mga humarang sa pag hire ng International Coaches (Chito Narvasa? Yeng Guiao? Bill Bayno? Rajko Toroman? Todd Purves?)

We still have a long way to go but we would be happy to have the best trainings!

There is a renewed interest to play for the National Team! LEts capitalize on it at wag na haluan ng politika

genom222
09-25-2014, 08:59 PM
That was a winnable game coach! Why are we still experementing during actual tournaments?! Or we just want to be in a bracket with korea only???

sump
09-29-2014, 06:25 PM
I hope all our inspiring wins and near wins, as well as our numerous heartbreaking losses result in a better national basketball program. We proved we can play toe to toe with some of the world's best. Let's move on and let today be Day 1 of our preparations for the next tournament.