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ironcoach
01-18-2013, 12:36 PM
Coach patalastas lang ha, ikaw kasi hottest thread dito, so para kang prime time slot para sa commercials, hehe!

Pinapasabi nga pala ni Boss Bo Perasol na may open tryouts bukas ang Blue Eagles sa Moro from 11:30 AM to 1:30 PM, magpakita na lang bukas ang mga interesado.

Uy! Sakto yan. Medyo asintado pa naman tayo sa "shooting" until now. Makapag-tryout nga kay brother Bo. :)

ironcoach
01-18-2013, 08:11 PM
Well, here we are. One more win shy of crashing the 2013 PBA D-League playoffs. After sputtering out of the gate for a 0-5 win-loss slate to begin the conference, my team, Boracay Rum, faced the spectre of having to sweep its final 5 elimination round games in order to have a chance at the Top 6. And win 4 in a row we did to bump up our record to a little bit more respectable 4-5 as of today.

Kung minalas-malas nga eh if we would've lost 1 of our 2 games last December, hindi man lang na sana inabot ng Pasko at bagong taon yung kampanya namin. It would've indeed been a very sad and difficult way to spend our Christmas vacation. But we survived. And 2 more wins to welcome the New Year had us "rising back from the grave". Given up for dead na dapat but now, buhay na buhay at punung-puno ng pag-asa. We've gotta win one more game though, and its easier said than done. Coz the team thats standing in our way...the Fruitas Shakers & Ola Adeogun.

Whoever said that basketball can't drive you nuts?!!

ironcoach
01-19-2013, 07:41 AM
Read about TNT's extra bonus for winning a "grand slam" of sort, 3 straight All-Filipino titles in the PBA. Tig-iisang Rolex watch daw. Alapag, Ryan Reyes, Peek, Dillinger, Carey, Williams...hindi ba All-Filipino/American yan? :) Castro, De Ocampo, Fonacier, Raymundo, Aban, Ferriols, Gamalinda, Alvarez, Lao & coach Black. Congratulations! Nandito lang ako kapag may sobrang yo-yo ha. :)

ironcoach
01-21-2013, 10:09 PM
Now that we've got an official statement decision(today) from the PBA Commissioner himself, allow me to share/release here a big doze of stress/uncertainty that hit my team/players right after we won our D-League game last Thursday.

One of my players, Jerry Santos, a Fil-Am from California, wore a different-numbered shorts without informing me(he went back to the U.S. during the holidays and unknowingly left his light-colored shorts behind). Kahit na hindi ako aware sa jersey/shorts number discrepancy na suot niya, halos hindi naman na siya kasama sa rotation namin (0 minutes in the game prior to the last one).

In that particular game(benched the entire first half & the 1st 6 mins and 50 secs of the 3rd qtr), at a very critical stretch of that knockout game(for us) when we couldn't gain any headway on our opponent, yung coaches' instinct to pull a "lucky-bunot" off tbe bench had me fielding in Santos into the fray towards the end of the 3rd qtr. His stats-line in 3 mins & 10 secs of playing time: 2 pts2 rebs 1 ast. A nifty drive & kick to knockdown triple specialist, Roider Cabrera, and an offensive putback at the buzzer. Those effort helped create a slight separation in our favor, i have to admit. Then the info that gave me all kinds of goosebumps & as if the gym
roof had caved-in on me: i was told by 1 of my sleeping-on-the-job, staff that Santoses' jersey & shorts numbers don't jibe. He's originally wearing #3 but his shorts on that particular day was #23 (borrowed from reserve player Julius Armon).

The moment i found out (end of the 3rd qtr), i didn't put him back in anymore. We won that game but our eagle-eyed opponents didn't waste time filing a protest regarding the matter (our opponents had an earlier "lost game"-against another sleeping-on-the-job team :) reversed into their favor for fielding an ineligible player) so i was on pins and needles the whole weekend. A sports reporter
approached me after the game and shared an info from a league insider-that the infraction we committed didn't tantamount to a game result reversal. That it would instead just be a fine, a suspension, or both, for the player who committed the infraction.

And so the good(?) news(verdict) came in earlier today via E-mail from the PBA Commissioner's Office: wearing different numbers on the shorts & jersey is a Violation of the PBA Playing Rules under Section VII (g-2-b)-whatever that means. The penalty: A FINE OF FIVE THOUSAND PESOS (P5,000.00) to be remitted to the PBA Office within 15 days.

After 3 days of stress & uncertainty + nakasalalay pa sa isang pagkatalo yung playoffs chances namin, i thought P5,000.00 was a bargain. And after all these years coaching this game, nahanap/natuklasan/nadiskubre ko narin sa wakas yung rule sa basketball na pwede maging pinaka-malapit sa puso ko: yun yung PLAYING RULES UNDER SECTION VII. And don't forget (g-2-b)-whatever that means.

As for Mr. Santos, at practice today, i made the whole team (staff & ballboys included) form a long line with legs spread wide, from sideline to sideline at midcourt...pinalusot ko!

Sam Miguel
01-23-2013, 12:53 PM
^^^ Natutulog sa pancitan ang mga bata mo, Coach! Oh well, lessons learned anyway, we live, we learn, we move forward, right Coach?

Speaking of moving forward, here's how that last multi-player, multi-team trade worked out in the PBA:

Petron Blaze – Ronald Tubid

Barako Bull – Jonas Villanueva, Allein Maliksi, JC Intal and Jojo Duncil

San Mig Coffee – Alex Mallari, Leo Najorda, Lester Alvarez and 2014 second-round pick

Barangay Ginebra – Mac Baracael

Alaska – Aldrech Ramos

Coach, are there any clear winners and losers in this huge trade?

bayanpilipinas
01-23-2013, 06:30 PM
And so the good(?) news(verdict) came in earlier today via E-mail from the PBA Commissioner's Office: wearing different numbers on the shorts & jersey is a Violation of the PBA Playing Rules under Section VII (g-2-b)-whatever that means. The penalty: A FINE OF FIVE THOUSAND PESOS (P5,000.00) to be remitted to the PBA Office within 15 days.

After 3 days of stress & uncertainty + nakasalalay pa sa isang pagkatalo yung playoffs chances namin, i thought P5,000.00 was a bargain. And after all these years coaching this game, nahanap/natuklasan/nadiskubre ko narin sa wakas yung rule sa basketball na pwede maging pinaka-malapit sa puso ko: yun yung PLAYING RULES UNDER SECTION VII. And don't forget (g-2-b)-whatever that means.

As for Mr. Santos, at practice today, i made the whole team (staff & ballboys included) form a long line with legs spread wide, from sideline to sideline at midcourt...pinalusot ko!

Buti na lang coach they didn't let the board determine the result of the game!

Btw coach, why isn't Julius Armon playing? Are his papers still not yet fixed?

ironcoach
01-23-2013, 07:22 PM
^^^ Natutulog sa pancitan ang mga bata mo, Coach! Oh well, lessons learned anyway, we live, we learn, we move forward, right Coach?

Speaking of moving forward, here's how that last multi-player, multi-team trade worked out in the PBA:

Petron Blaze – Ronald Tubid

Barako Bull – Jonas Villanueva, Allein Maliksi, JC Intal and Jojo Duncil

San Mig Coffee – Alex Mallari, Leo Najorda, Lester Alvarez and 2014 second-round pick

Barangay Ginebra – Mac Baracael

Alaska – Aldrech Ramos

Coach, are there any clear winners and losers in this huge trade?

If wr simply gonna zero-in on these deals & not witch-hunt anymore/ignore the "conduit/anak sa labas team" disguised as an independent entity, then i would say Alaska & the Bastardo este Barako Bulls benefitted slightly over the 3 other participants.

Petron: maybe just to buy time for Lassiter's injury to heal. Tubid is 32 and with Lutz & Yeo around? Por Ke? Mallari could come back & haunt them later on with his potential & youth.

Ginebra: lost Maliksi got Baracael. Hindi ramdam.

Alaska: lost Baracael (supposedly making 225k this season) got Aldrech (supposedly making 150k). Tipid ng konti ang Alaska & the
Beast made Baracael expendable also. And Aldrech is 6'5 while Mac is 6'3.

San Mig: last year lost Urbiztondo & now Jonas. So si Barroca natira sa 3 point guards from last year's champion team. Dagdag ng Lester then convert Mallari to play point guard? PJ Simon can play the point din kasi so no harm. Intal warms the bench there lang naman so panalo parin esp. yung 2014 1st round pick. Could be Greg Slaughter or 1 of those Gilas cadet Fil-Ams.

Barako: ay naku! (past & present) Seigle, Pennisi, Urbiztondo, Pena, Anthony, Roger Yap, Tubid, Maliksi, Intal, Jonas, Enrico, Toroman (sino pa?). How does this team manage to get SMC people into its fold effortlessly? Well, kung itong trade lang ang sisilipin natin, pasang-awa narin sila.

Overview: 10 players, 5 teams trade. Wala namang ni-isang game-changer na player ang involved dito eh. May mga pwedeng umasenso pa or maging impact players later on like Baracael, Ramos, Mallari & Maliksi pero yung mga ibang nabanggit, sugar & cream nalang sa kape yan. Kung yung mga Kelly Williams, James Yap, Caguioa, Castro, Arwind, Ranidel, Cardona, Gary D, Lutz, Thoss, Abueva or Pingris sana ang involved, dun tayo ma-excite. Anyway, kung pumalpak naman ang ibang mga palitan dito, in a few conference kayang-kaya namang balasahin uli ng "tunay na bossing" nila yan. Kung minsan hindi rin naman pumapalag ang isang barako eh. May barako ring "masunurin". :)

ironcoach
01-23-2013, 07:35 PM
Buti na lang coach they didn't let the board determine the result of the game!

Btw coach, why isn't Julius Armon playing? Are his papers still not yet fixed?

Not yet fixed eh. Its finally moving though. Maybe soon. I've always preach about how "patience is a virtue".

For example, if a basketball team has had 11 coaching change in less than 25 years, then it had not exercised patience. Therefore, there is no virtue in their decision-making whatsoever. Therefore, success will also not be patient with them. Therefore, the team suffer due to the decision-making prowess of a few. Therefore, there has to be accountability somewhere, somehow, along the way.

bayanpilipinas
01-24-2013, 06:24 AM
Not yet fixed eh. Its finally moving though. Maybe soon. I've always preach about how "patience is a virtue".

For example, if a basketball team has had 11 coaching change in less than 25 years, then it had not exercised patience. Therefore, there is no virtue in their decision-making whatsoever. Therefore, success will also not be patient with them. Therefore, the team suffer due to the decision-making prowess of a few. Therefore, there has to be accountability somewhere, somehow, along the way.

Happy to hear that coach. Once the unscouted Julius gets cleared come playoff time, he just might be your "lucky-bunot". Who knows, you might even end up in the finals. Good luck coach!

ironcoach
01-24-2013, 09:12 AM
Happy to hear that coach. Once the unscouted Julius gets cleared come playoff time, he just might be your "lucky-bunot". Who knows, you might even end up in the finals. Good luck coach!

Thanks. Sana mag-dilang demo este anghel ka. :)

JBSO
01-28-2013, 10:49 AM
coach, good luck sa do-or-die game niyo bukas..kuha niyo na yan.

ironcoach
01-28-2013, 05:05 PM
coach, good luck sa do-or-die game niyo bukas..kuha niyo na yan.

Thanks. But as it is, even if manalo kami sa do or die game namin vs Fruitas, we'll also need Big Chill to win its game vs Cafe France coz if not (even the JRU/Air21-Cebuana game on Thursday could have a bearing on our fate), pwede pang mag-5 way tie dun sa 4th-8th spot & only 3 of the 5 teams will advance to the playoffs. Big Chills recent slide, esp. that stupid loss to Informatics, only muddled the playoff picture for us. But we'll just take care of the stuffs that we have control of & let fate take care of the rest.

God save us.

ironcoach
01-30-2013, 03:23 PM
Well, once again, it wasn't meant to be for my to make the playoffs of the PBA D-League. Leading by 9 towards the end of the 3rd qtr, we suddenly forgot how to play basketball in the payoff quarter & lost 26-10 in 10 minutes.

Pong Escobal also gave us a clinic/showtime by knocking in "20" of his 22 total output in the 4th quarter. The last quarter stats-line should read: Escobal 20 vs Boracay Rum 10.

We would've made it outright into the playoffs with a win while Fruitas will still have to pray for a JRU/Air21 win over Cebuana Gems tomorrow for them to make it into the Magic 6. If not, then all they did was play spoiler to us. Well, that was how the cookie crumbled.

As for me, will just have to lick my chops and move on.

Sam Miguel
01-31-2013, 02:28 PM
Coach more wheeling and dealing in the PBA, with players going to the following teams:

TNT: Rabeh Al-Hussaini

Global Port: Japeth Aguilar, Sol Mercado, Kelly Nabong, JP Belencion

Meralco; Vic Manuel, Josh Vanlandingham, Rey Guevarra, 2015 first-round pick.

Your thoughts on these trades? Maybe even some insider information on coming deals?

Kerby Raymundo and Jay Washington were also supposed to change addresses, but those guys haven't been moved. Yet.

ironcoach
01-31-2013, 03:46 PM
Coach more wheeling and dealing in the PBA, with players going to the following teams:

TNT: Rabeh Al-Hussaini

Global Port: Japeth Aguilar, Sol Mercado, Kelly Nabong, JP Belencion

Meralco; Vic Manuel, Josh Vanlandingham, Rey Guevarra, 2015 first-round pick.

Your thoughts on these trades? Maybe even some insider information on coming deals?

Kerby Raymundo and Jay Washington were also supposed to change addresses, but those guys haven't been moved. Yet.

Superb trade ito favoring Globalport. Japeth & Nabong solves the big men rotation of the Batang Pier. Lateral movement lang for TNT coz dati na namang wala yung nawala sa kanila. Yung Meralco ang medyo hindi ko ma-gets. Nawala na nga si Asi, why dispose of Nabong? Kelly had a good conference with the Bolts. Reynel is, while still dependable, ageing, si JR Reyes won't ever get the job done. Manuel is a 4 na pwesto na ni Hodge. Vanlandingham & Guevarra they don't really need with Macmac, Buenafe & Sunday playing the wings. The 2015 1st round pick, thats still 3 years down the road pa. What are they thinking?

ironcoach
02-03-2013, 08:19 PM
2 weeks ago, yung 5-teams 10-players trade. Involved were Alaska(lost Baracael, got Ramos), Petron(lost Duncil & Mallari, got Tubid), Ginebra(lost Maliksi, got Baracael), Barako(lost Tubid, got Maliksi, Villanueva, Duncil, draft pick), San Mig(lost Ramos, Villanueva, got Mallari).

This past week naman, Global(lost Rabeh, Manuel, Guevarra Vanlandingham, got Japeth, Nabong & Mercado) TNT(lost Japeth-he's been lost for a while, got Rabeh), Meralco(lost Mercado & Nabong, got Vanlandingham, Manuel, Guevarra) had their own version ng Merry-Go-Round.

With those developments, that left Rain or Shine & Air21 as the remaining intact teams for the 2nd Conference that will start 5 days from now. But will the PBA Tele-serye end there? May mga umuugong pang balita about Washington, K. Raymundo & Baclao changing temporary addresses.

Are these so-called trades(rigodon) really well thought of by these self-styled experts o trip lang? Business moves? In a 10-team league, bakit puro "hit & miss" ang approach or solusyon? Just like in the case of Maliksi. Dati ng Barako yan tapos na-trade, ngayon naman balik-Barako in less than a year (parang may garter ah). Baclao, Rabeh, Guevarra, Elmer Espiritu & Vanlandingham were the top 5 rookie picks back in August 2010 and in 2 years & 4 months later, naka-ilang lipat o teams na ba sila? Even yung top 10 rookie picks nung 2011, only Lee, Lutz & Barroca remain with their original teams.

Bakit kaya "non-stop trades" nalang ang quick-fix formula na alam ng ating mga bright boys ngayon? How bout training, practice, team building & player developments?? Hindi na ba uso ang diskarteng yan? While RoS continues to build thru the years with their own draft picks (walang pambili? hehe), the rest might have mistaken the hardcourt for the trading floor(as in sa stocks exchange).

Pero dito, kitang-kita mo what (an obscene amount of) money can do. Kulang nalang pati yung trophy eh bilhin nalang rin. :)

Yung PBA might as well be called PBB. Parang Pinoy Big Brother lang.

Sam Miguel
02-04-2013, 11:19 AM
Coach there seems to be a groundswell of bad sentiments in the Tiong Lian towards players who seem to be "mercenary" players only, and are supposedly fake student-athletes. This sentiment has been directed primarily at the players of certain schools who look like they have little to no Chinese lineage, madali't sabi laban sa mga purong Pinoy.

Now I do not have direct knowledge as to whether or not these purong Pinoy players really are puro. But I think what is really going on is that these guys don't seem to look the part of a real student in any school. Alam niyo 'yung mga tipong varsity na hindi pumapasok at pang-laro lang? I think that seems to be the real issue here.

My proposed solution is simple: an outright and total ban on all players who cannot conclusively prove they have at least some Chinese lineage.

I leave it to Tiong Lian how they will determine this, although I would suggest making the bastards write a simple 300-word essay on the spot in front of the principal of every Tiong Lian school IN MANDARIN OR ANY OTHER CHINESE DIALECT. That should ferret out the mercenaries.

What do you think?

ironcoach
02-04-2013, 05:41 PM
Coach there seems to be a groundswell of bad sentiments in the Tiong Lian towards players who seem to be "mercenary" players only, and are supposedly fake student-athletes. This sentiment has been directed primarily at the players of certain schools who look like they have little to no Chinese lineage, madali't sabi laban sa mga purong Pinoy.

Now I do not have direct knowledge as to whether or not these purong Pinoy players really are puro. But I think what is really going on is that these guys don't seem to look the part of a real student in any school. Alam niyo 'yung mga tipong varsity na hindi pumapasok at pang-laro lang? I think that seems to be the real issue here.

My proposed solution is simple: an outright and total ban on all players who cannot conclusively prove they have at least some Chinese lineage.

I leave it to Tiong Lian how they will determine this, although I would suggest making the bastards write a simple 300-word essay on the spot in front of the principal of every Tiong Lian school IN MANDARIN OR ANY OTHER CHINESE DIALECT. That should ferret out the mercenaries.

What do you think?

No need. These Filipino-Chinese schools are still in the Philippines therefore, purong-Pinoys have the right to play in the Tiong Lian league as well. To ferret out mercenaries, all they've got to do is implement a residency period for recruits. As far as yung hindi pumapasok or hindi nag-aaral, lets trust these schools nalang to uphold their individual standards sa education.

Like St. Jude Catholic School. Lahat ng alumni dyan all started from Nursery or Prep 1. Hindi tumatanggap ang SJCS ng papasok na ng Grade 1 to 6 or high school(any year). Garantisado kang puro legit SJCS students lahat ng varsity at nakapag-varsity dyan in school history. Kanya-kanyang police nalang. Im sure may mga prinsipyong tao rin ang behind sa Tiong Lian.

Sam Miguel
02-06-2013, 09:40 AM
Coach, the FIBA Asia Championships are this August in our country.

If you were the head coach, which 12 players would make your final tournament roster? Would Paul Lee be there?

Also, what do you think would be our best defense (fullcourt press, halfcourt trap, 2-3 zone, others ...?) against the Asian powerhouses?

ironcoach
02-06-2013, 10:13 AM
Coach, the FIBA Asia Championships are this August in our country.

If you were the head coach, which 12 players would make your final tournament roster? Would Paul Lee be there?

Also, what do you think would be our best defense (fullcourt press, halfcourt trap, 2-3 zone, others ...?) against the Asian powerhouses?

If i were to be tasked of forming our National Team for the FIBA-Asia in August, because of time constraint, i'd pick 5-6 players from Talk N' Text then add another 7-8 from the best of the best players in the country at every position. Plus Marcus Douthit, of course.
Paul Lee will definitely be a shoo-in owing to system-familiarity & he can be a big help in the orientation of the other players(an aide in the coach/player relationship department).

The line-up could look like this: Alapag, Ryan Reyes, Castro, Ranidel De Ocampo, Williams, Peek. Then Thoss, Lee, Canaleta, David, Norwood, Yap, Lutz, Pingris & Douthit. I'd also take a look at Asi Taulava due to his experience in International play. Dito na sa 16-man pool manggagaling ang Final 12 ko. If we were to start training by next week, that would give us exactly 6 months to prepare so sufficient na yan, assuming wala ng iba pang commitments ang mga players.

Yung defense should be flexible. It should be able to adapt to both fullcourt & halfcourt what with all the talent at my disposable. We'll need to play different kinds of defenses against different opponents and also be able to give any particular opponent different looks in a particular game. Flexibility para hindi rin predictable.

ironcoach
02-08-2013, 07:52 AM
Happy Chinese New Year to all my Gameface friends. Kiong Hee Huat Tsai!! Lets all welcome the Year of the Water Snake. Sana mas maging lucky ito for us, our mga kababayans & to the entire country.

RedArmyColonel
02-11-2013, 08:52 AM
Hi Coach!

Julius Armon should have played for you in the D-League, right? Whatever happened to him? I just saw his name in the lineup of another (and presumably small-time) league.

ironcoach
02-11-2013, 11:56 AM
Hi Coach!

Julius Armon should have played for you in the D-League, right? Whatever happened to him? I just saw his name in the lineup of another (and presumably small-time) league.

And what small-time league is that? I personally drove Armon to the airport last week coz he requested for a few weeks break to go back to L.A., pending the approval of his Immigration papers.

abcdef
02-11-2013, 01:07 PM
Mukhang di alam ni Coach ito ah. . .

Sam Miguel
02-11-2013, 01:15 PM
Happy Chinese New Year to all my Gameface friends. Kiong Hee Huat Tsai!! Lets all welcome the Year of the Water Snake. Sana mas maging lucky ito for us, our mga kababayans & to the entire country.

Coach buenas ba Water Snake?

RedArmyColonel
02-11-2013, 01:57 PM
And what small-time league is that? I personally drove Armon to the airport last week coz he requested for a few weeks break to go back to L.A., pending the approval of his Immigration papers.

This is all I know:

Meanwhile, Manila Capitals will make its debut today against NAASCU runner-up Centro Escolar University-Advance Solutions, Inc. at 6 p.m.

Handled by former PBA player Braulio Lim and managed by Manila Sports Council (MASCO) chairman Paul Edward Almario, the Capitals will be bannered by Jeff Alvin Viernes, Eric de la Cuesta, Jeff Sanders, Leimar Navarro, Julius Armon, Cocoy Clemente, Jun Barranta, Vladimir Igliane, Nico Amparo, Rolly Santarin and Bernard Labro.

http://www.journal.com.ph/index.php/sports/44061-ust-pacific-pipes-outplays-mob

ironcoach
02-12-2013, 12:22 AM
Coach buenas ba Water Snake?

I hope so. Sana. Pero last year (a Dragon year) was terrible. Not naman so much for me personally, but in general. Yung mga deadly calamities that befell our brothers in Mindanao, yung mga nasunugan, na-ambushed either by lawless elements and/or gun for hires.
Walang katapusang senseless deaths all-around. People that were just around kelan lang. Dolphy, Robredo, Roehl Nadurata, Butch Maniego...to name a few.

There could've been worst years in the past pero siyempre yung most recent ang talagang ta-tatak sa alaala mo. Kung hindi man bwenas ang "Year of the Water Snake", i-panalangin natin. Ipagdasal.

ironcoach
02-12-2013, 12:49 AM
Mukhang di alam ni Coach ito ah. . .

Julius went back to L.A. last Feb.6 onboard Philippine Airlines (PR 112) & im sure about it 100%. Baka yung humugot sa kanya ang wala or hindi alam yon. Hopefully no advanced payments were made para walang gusot in the future.

I allow Julius magligang-labas here & there while waiting for clearance to suit up in the D-League para hindi rin siya maburo and to allow him narin to make those badly needed extra cash. :)

Seldom does anything escape me. Seldom.

Sam Miguel
02-12-2013, 10:09 AM
Coach, who among the current PBA improts do you think will be sent packing first?

And who will be named Best Import for this conference?

RedArmyColonel
02-12-2013, 02:56 PM
Julius went back to L.A. last Feb.6 onboard Philippine Airlines (PR 112) & im sure about it 100%. Baka yung humugot sa kanya ang wala or hindi alam yon. Hopefully no advanced payments were made para walang gusot in the future.

I allow Julius magligang-labas here & there while waiting for clearance to suit up in the D-League para hindi rin siya maburo and to allow him narin to make those badly needed extra cash. :)

Seldom does anything escape me. Seldom.

How is he doing during practices? Do you think he has what it takes to be in the PBA?

ironcoach
02-12-2013, 08:07 PM
Coach, who among the current PBA improts do you think will be sent packing first?

And who will be named Best Import for this conference?

Hindi mo pa masasabi yan this early in the conference. Napaka-amateur move naman yung 1 or 2 games palang eh magpa-panic na.
Im sure all of these reinforcements were scouted/recommended, binusisi na ang mga profiles ng mga yan bago inimport. Kalaban mo lang naman dyan eh yung mga hindi agad makapag-adjust sa weather, sa sistema, sa brand ng basketball dito sa atin or simply may topak lang din.

If you were to gauge these imports based sa first games nila, para sa akin, Dawson of Meralco was the most impressive while Hill of Ginebra was the least impressive. But with a stats-line of 17pts & 18rebs, you can hardly classify Hill as a Lemon also. Malay mo in their succeeding games eh lumabas ang pagka-halimaw niyan. Wala rin naman kasing kasiguraduhan na yung ipapalit at ipapalit at ipapalit mong import eh magki-click din so perhaps its sometimes wise to wait a while before jumping the gun.

Bukod sa "haste makes waste", nandyan din yung age-old saying na "Prudence..is always the better part of valor". And with some teams, sayang yung airfare. :)

ironcoach
02-12-2013, 08:49 PM
How is he doing during practices? Do you think he has what it takes to be in the PBA?

Pagdating sa talent, athleticism at work ethics, walang problema. Pang-PBA talaga. Ang problema sa kanya yung angas niya kung angas (more like angst) ngang maita-tawag dun. Grabe ang mood swings. Nai-kwento niya dati yung mga bad experiences niya sa San Beda(whether true or not). Akala niya tuloy parati siyang pinagkaka-isahan o mina-maltrato.

In fairness nandun yung respeto (sincere or otherwise) niya para sa akin. Sina-psychologize ko siya parati tsaka hindi ako nagkulang sa pasensya, sa pangaral at sa paliwanag dyan. Who knows? Hindi man para sa akin, he could be somebody elses franchise player someday. Yan ang trabaho at tungkulin naming mga coaches. Kung nandun narin lang ang promise at ang talent...nurture it. Kasi i've heard of some coaches destroy it instead (ah...loko ka o matigas ang ulo mo, pwes, bangko ka or sisirain kita. In disguise of discipline)

Sam Miguel
02-14-2013, 09:12 AM
Speaking of Julius Armon, Coach: How do you see him in the PBA, will he be a combo-guard type, a swingman or a fulltime off-guard?

ironcoach
02-14-2013, 12:58 PM
Speaking of Julius Armon, Coach: How do you see him in the PBA, will he be a combo-guard type, a swingman or a fulltime off-guard?


I believe Julius is best-suited as a combo guard. He's got good passing skills & a strong finisher.

sidestep
02-14-2013, 01:04 PM
I believe Julius is best-suited as a combo guard. He's got good passing skills & a strong finisher.

coach, could Julius be potentially part of Gilas in the near future?

ironcoach
02-15-2013, 12:33 AM
coach, could Julius be potentially part of Gilas in the near future?

Potentially, why not? Pero depende na yan sa coach na magha-handle ng team. But personally, sa obserbasyon ko hindi pang-
National team ang kalibre ni Armon. Pang-PBA lang talaga. Ma-showtime eh. :)

Sam Miguel
02-15-2013, 08:21 AM
Coach, in cases of hotdogs and showboats, is that something you encourage them to keep up, or is that something you want them to tone down or get rid off altogether?

Personally I hate showboats. Three points, two points and one point are the only scores in basketball. This isn't gymnastics where there are additional points for degree of difficulty.

Sometimes guys will attempt a two-hand windmill dunk then flub it, thus depriving his side of two points, when he could have gone for a simple stuff shot or the much safer layup thus getting the two points.

Yes, those showtime stunts look great, make it to the highlight reels and excite your team and your crowd, but that is only if it results in a score for your side. A missed dunk, a messed-up fancy pass, a bounced away fancy dribble, are just plain annoying.

ironcoach
02-15-2013, 10:03 AM
Coach, in cases of hotdogs and showboats, is that something you encourage them to keep up, or is that something you want them to tone down or get rid off altogether?

Personally I hate showboats. Three points, two points and one point are the only scores in basketball. This isn't gymnastics where there are additional points for degree of difficulty.

Sometimes guys will attempt a two-hand windmill dunk then flub it, thus depriving his side of two points, when he could have gone for a simple stuff shot or the much safer layup thus getting the two points.

Yes, those showtime stunts look great, make it to the highlight reels and excite your team and your crowd, but that is only if it results in a score for your side. A missed dunk, a messed-up fancy pass, a bounced away fancy dribble, are just plain annoying.

In today's game, there's a thin line in allowing "showtime" basketball as compared to frowning on it altogether. If the mindset would be geared towards "old school" basketball, it would completely eliminate the fun from the game altogether. It would be like telling LeBron James to settle for a pa-boarding lay-ups on breakaways.

Basta ba alam natin yung kakayahan at kalibre ng bawat player, and in practice, nakikita naman natin kung ano ang kaya niya at hindi. Ang mas dapat i-decipher is if a particular move is in-line with trying to win a basketball game or simply just mimicking the Harlem Globetrotters.

car_kotse
02-16-2013, 01:48 AM
Coach, i understand that you had a tune-up game with Ateneo just recently. How does the Newsome kid play? You impressed with him? Anybody new in the team that you think will play well in the UAAP and should be included in the line-up?

LION
02-16-2013, 09:19 AM
Pagdating sa talent, athleticism at work ethics, walang problema. Pang-PBA talaga. Ang problema sa kanya yung angas niya kung angas (more like angst) ngang maita-tawag dun. Grabe ang mood swings. Nai-kwento niya dati yung mga bad experiences niya sa San Beda(whether true or not). Akala niya tuloy parati siyang pinagkaka-isahan o mina-maltrato.

In fairness nandun yung respeto (sincere or otherwise) niya para sa akin. Sina-psychologize ko siya parati tsaka hindi ako nagkulang sa pasensya, sa pangaral at sa paliwanag dyan. Who knows? Hindi man para sa akin, he could be somebody elses franchise player someday. Yan ang trabaho at tungkulin naming mga coaches. Kung nandun narin lang ang promise at ang talent...nurture it. Kasi i've heard of some coaches destroy it instead (ah...loko ka o matigas ang ulo mo, pwes, bangko ka or sisirain kita. In disguise of discipline)


Bakit naman pagkaka isahan o mamaltratuhin ang isang super talented na fil-am na ni recruit mo all the way from the United States? Baka naman naka jutes lang sya nun coach nung sinabi nya sa yo yun hehheehehehehhehe.

Baka naman nung pinatira sya sa athletes' quarters eh akala na maltreatment na yun? :) Or nung pinapakain sya sa cafeteria. :)

LION
02-16-2013, 09:21 AM
Pagdating sa talent, athleticism at work ethics, walang problema. Pang-PBA talaga. Ang problema sa kanya yung angas niya kung angas (more like angst) ngang maita-tawag dun. Grabe ang mood swings. Nai-kwento niya dati yung mga bad experiences niya sa San Beda(whether true or not). Akala niya tuloy parati siyang pinagkaka-isahan o mina-maltrato.

In fairness nandun yung respeto (sincere or otherwise) niya para sa akin. Sina-psychologize ko siya parati tsaka hindi ako nagkulang sa pasensya, sa pangaral at sa paliwanag dyan. Who knows? Hindi man para sa akin, he could be somebody elses franchise player someday. Yan ang trabaho at tungkulin naming mga coaches. Kung nandun narin lang ang promise at ang talent...nurture it. Kasi i've heard of some coaches destroy it instead (ah...loko ka o matigas ang ulo mo, pwes, bangko ka or sisirain kita. In disguise of discipline)


Bakit naman pagkaka isahan o mamaltratuhin ang isang ni recruit mo all the way from the United States? Baka naman naka jutes lang sya nun coach nung sinabi nya sa yo yun hehheehehehehhehe.

Baka naman nung pinatira sya sa athletes' quarters eh akala na maltreatment na yun? :) Or nung pinapakain sya sa cafeteria. :)

reforms
02-16-2013, 11:48 AM
Nung nasa RL pa sya, nabasa ko dati na may tinweet sya na parang "can't believe they're feeding me this" or can't believe this is food" or something to that effect. hehe. I was thinking then that he might still be in the process of adjusting to pinoy food. But I must admit, the food in the cafeteria was not that great at least during our time. Still, free food, board, allowance and of course good education ain't bad right? Pasalamat nalang sana sya sa mga biyaya nya noon.

Pasalamat din sya na di nya inabutan ang quarters nung panahon nila Arjun. hehe

Aminado naman sya from his twitter description about himself- "problem child".

Good luck coach!

ironcoach
02-16-2013, 06:03 PM
Coach, i understand that you had a tune-up game with Ateneo just recently. How does the Newsome kid play? You impressed with him? Anybody new in the team that you think will play well in the UAAP and should be included in the line-up?

Oh! That tune-up was just last night. He's ok. He caused us some mismatch problems especially when he plays the 4-spot and then plays in the perimeter. He's got a little strong dribble-drive going to his right and decent din ang shooting.

Ponso Gotladera is with the Blue Eagles na pala although he's still kinda overweight. As far as spotting for bright prospects with their newbies, wala akong napansin na merong outstanding. They were solely relying on Ravena almost the whole game. Yun lang ang maibibigay kong scouting report. :)

car_kotse
02-16-2013, 09:57 PM
Oh! That tune-up was just last night. He's ok. He caused us some mismatch problems especially when he plays the 4-spot and then plays in the perimeter. He's got a little strong dribble-drive going to his right and decent din ang shooting.

Ponso Gotladera is with the Blue Eagles na pala although he's still kinda overweight. As far as spotting for bright prospects with their newbies, wala akong napansin na merong outstanding. They were solely relying on Ravena almost the whole game. Yun lang ang maibibigay kong scouting report. :)

Thanks Coach. Parang Juice Armon ba kalibre ni Newsome?

Speaking of Ponso Gotladera, you mentioned in your previous post that you tried to recruit the kid for UE before. Obviously you saw a very good upside for the kid then, when he was with the cubs. Since medyo naburo sa DLSU, medyo naunahan na sa development ng cub team mate na si Chris Javier. How will you bring out the game of a kid pag ganito kaso?? I know for a fact that you did wonders for Val Acuna when you handled UE. Bangko lang dati kay Coach Dindo. I think napag MVP mo pa yata sa isang international tournament before the UAAP Season.

ironcoach
02-17-2013, 09:01 AM
Bakit naman pagkaka isahan o mamaltratuhin ang isang ni recruit mo all the way from the United States? Baka naman naka jutes lang sya nun coach nung sinabi nya sa yo yun hehheehehehehhehe.

Baka naman nung pinatira sya sa athletes' quarters eh akala na maltreatment na yun? :) Or nung pinapakain sya sa cafeteria. :)

Hi there, my friend. Belated Happy Chinese New Year to you & to your family. Somehow, i knew you would post a reaction here upon my typing the words "San Beda" in 1 of my replies regarding issues about Julius Armon. :)

Well, according to Julius, one of the concerns in his San Beda (mis)adventure involves money. Hindi raw yung ipinangako sa kanya ng team manager ang natatanggap niya. Another is when, right after a scrimmage in practice, a team superstar punched him at the back of his head and everyone in the team, including the coaches, just let it go. Plus tales of missing wallets, money & personal stuffs inside the team quarters.

During his time with us, hindi naman naging issue yung tirahan at pagkain niya. And i can attest to the fact that SBC's cafeteria serves better food than what we feed him. Nung nasa SBC pa si coach Rene Baena, madalas akong magpa-libre sa kanya dyan sa SBC cafeteria. Pang-masa lang naman kasi itong pan-lasa natin. :)

ironcoach
02-17-2013, 09:35 AM
Thanks Coach. Parang Juice Armon ba kalibre ni Newsome?

Speaking of Ponso Gotladera, you mentioned in your previous post that you tried to recruit the kid for UE before. Obviously you saw a very good upside for the kid then, when he was with the cubs. Since medyo naburo sa DLSU, medyo naunahan na sa development ng cub team mate na si Chris Javier. How will you bring out the game of a kid pag ganito kaso?? I know for a fact that you did wonders for Val Acuna when you handled UE. Bangko lang dati kay Coach Dindo. I think napag MVP mo pa yata sa isang international tournament
before the UAAP Season.
I don't think Newsome is anywhere near the caliber of Armon. But Newsome will play team ball, stick within a system & could be more coachable. With Armon, i basically just maximize all the talent that he has. Pang-PBA na talaga yung Armon pati sa pag-uugali.

I think it was in the Las Vegas Easter Showcase in 2009 na nag-MVP si Val Acuna. Kahit sa PBA sana, kung maibabalik lang yung kumpiyansa ng bata, he can be very good sana in the pros. Kaso nga puro bangko lang ang natikman niya dun.

With Gotladera, to answer your question, pwede kong gamitin yung (mis)adventure niya with DLSU as a tool para maging motivation niya. Another is to play several tune-up games & iko-konchaba ko si Kiefer na gawin naming "main man" si Ponso in a lot of those scrimmages para ma-develop siya into a key cog sa tropa ng Blue & White. Kasi another scenario eh maging Frank Golla lang din siya. Maayos naman nung high school pero, although maaaring lucky charm din siya at hindi ko rin mamaliitin yung mga championship rings niya. But individually, wala namang magandang nilaro si Golla for ADMU all these years. Hindi nalang din binale-wala yung contributions niya eversince his high school(and grade school?) days with the school. A big positive is coach Bo Perasol bringing his PBA orientation to the team. Im sure malalim sa motivation and sa pag-piga ng kakayahan sa isang player ang mangyayari dyan. Good luck to Ponso.

LION
02-17-2013, 08:49 PM
Hi there, my friend. Belated Happy Chinese New Year to you & to your family. Somehow, i knew you would post a reaction here upon my typing the words "San Beda" in 1 of my replies regarding issues about Julius Armon. :)

Well, according to Julius, one of the concerns in his San Beda (mis)adventure involves money. Hindi raw yung ipinangako sa kanya ng team manager ang natatanggap niya. Another is when, right after a scrimmage in practice, a team superstar punched him at the back of his head and everyone in the team, including the coaches, just let it go. Plus tales of missing wallets, money & personal stuffs inside the team quarters.

During his time with us, hindi naman naging issue yung tirahan at pagkain niya. And i can attest to the fact that SBC's cafeteria serves better food than what we feed him. Nung nasa SBC pa si coach Rene Baena, madalas akong magpa-libre sa kanya dyan sa SBC cafeteria. Pang-masa lang naman kasi itong pan-lasa natin. :)


Hello coach. Your instinct was right hahahhahahahaha.

Anyway, I will no longer comment about Julius’ tales because am not privy to that. :-) He can say whatever floats his boat.

Btw, I sent you a pm. :)

ironcoach
02-18-2013, 07:59 PM
Hello coach. Your instinct was right hahahhahahahaha.

Anyway, I will no longer comment about Julius’ tales because am not privy to that. :-) He can say whatever floats his boat.

Btw, I sent you a pm. :)


Where's the PM button? How do i get to open it? Help!!!!

bchoter
02-18-2013, 11:02 PM
It's under the Notification near the top of the page coach. Sits next to My Profile

ironcoach
02-19-2013, 09:04 AM
It's under the Notification near the top of the page coach. Sits next to My Profile

Found it. Thanks. Pero hindi sa Top of the page ko nahanap but instead, i found it at the Bottom. Dun sa Quick Navigation: Hoopedia button ko nahanap(na-chambahan). May difference ba since im using an iPad?

Sam Miguel
02-20-2013, 10:21 AM
Coach, your thoughts on Byron Villarias of JRU?

Looks like Coach Vergel Meneses has crafted himself a new star for JRU.

Is Villarias the real deal? He certainly has the genes for it.

ironcoach
02-20-2013, 11:47 AM
Coach, your thoughts on Byron Villarias of JRU?

Looks like Coach Vergel Meneses has crafted himself a new star for JRU.

Is Villarias the real deal? He certainly has the genes for it.

Magaling na bata. Probably even better than his dad/uncle. :) The first time i saw this kid play sa NCAA, i could see right away his potential. I will admit that nung nasa UE pa ako in 2010, may balak na ako nun na kunin siya. Anyway...

Is he the real deal? I think medyo maaga pa para i-categorize siya as such. Marami pa siyang bigas na kakainin. Aware ako sa kakayahan ng batang ito kaya nung game namin ng JRU/Air21, i made sure that he wouldn't be able to hurt us. Just check out his stats in that game against us. :)

UE_red king
02-23-2013, 09:33 PM
Coach, ano sa palagay niyo ang kulang sa Ginebra? Bakit nasa bottom of standing sila ngayon at walang maipanalong game..Kung titingnan kasi ang Line-up nila ok naman...

ironcoach
02-25-2013, 10:14 AM
Coach, ano sa palagay niyo ang kulang sa Ginebra? Bakit nasa bottom of standing sila ngayon at walang maipanalong game..Kung titingnan kasi ang Line-up nila ok naman...

Maybe hindi "kulang" ang problema kundi "sobra"...SOBRA SA PERA". :) Ang napatunayan lang naman ng mga SMC teams in recent years is malalim ang bulsa nila. 4 & 1/3(5 & 1/3?) out of the 10 professional teams in the land ang kontrolado nila yet hindi parin nila makuha ang tamang timpla. Maybe they just don't get it. Mag-champion man sila, aba'y dapat lang.

Dahil sa dami ng panggastos, they've resorted to "wholesale panic-buying" through the years. Merry-go-round dito, roller-coaster doon at kung minsan may ferris wheel pa kaya kadalasan, sa Wild River ang bagsak. Look at the line-up of Air21. Lamang lang yata ng konting paligo yan sa NLEX team ng D-League pero laban lang sila. Every win malinamnam. Yung RoS, more than half of their roster eh mga sariling draft picks nila. These teams know that hindi nila kayang makipag-sabayan ng gastusan with the SMC & MVP teams kaya they resort to "real" training & basketball know how to be able to compete.

Ang pagkakaiba ng TNT, 1-time bigtime lang sila namakyaw ng mga de-kalibreng players then dinaan na sa chemistry & sistema. Williams, Reyes, Castro, Alapag, Peek, Ranidel, Fonacier, even Gilbert Lao. Di ba sila-sila narin naman ang nandyan in their recent championships? Yung mga Aban, Gamalinda, Pamboy, Ferriols, Oreta are mere fillers lang or role players pampa-puno ng roster.

Unlike the other carnival show in town. But in fairness to them, if i had the same money as them...malamang mahilo rin ako. :)

ironcoach
02-25-2013, 10:20 AM
Coach, ano sa palagay niyo ang kulang sa Ginebra? Bakit nasa bottom of standing sila ngayon at walang maipanalong game..Kung titingnan kasi ang Line-up nila ok naman...

Parang sa tunay na buhay lang yan. Kapag mahirap ka, matuto kang mag-sikap, magtipid o dumiskarte. Kapag mayaman ka naman...ano man ang maging problema o hirap sa buhay, pera ang solusyon dyan. What money can destroy, money can fix. Ganun lang talaga ang human nature.

Big Ticket
02-26-2013, 04:14 PM
Coach, ano sa tingin nyo ang mga ginawang tama ng JRU kung baket nahirapan ang NLEX sa kanila? Muntik pa nilang masilat sa semis...

ironcoach
02-26-2013, 04:31 PM
Coach, ano sa tingin nyo ang mga ginawang tama ng JRU kung baket nahirapan ang NLEX sa kanila? Muntik pa nilang masilat sa semis...

Hindi ko nga rin ma-gets kung bakit hirap ang NLEX sa JRU. Kontra-pelo? Over-confidence? O nilalaro lang ng NLEX masyado since power-packed ang line-up nila. Kami nga na down the line team lang sa D-League eh hindi nahirapan sa JRU, NLEX pa kaya? I wasn't able (didn't bother) to watch their games pero maybe NLEX just brings out the best of JRU everytime magharap sila. And give credit also to JRU for pushing NLEX to the limit. Wala pang nakakagawa niyan kundi tanging sila.

Ahura Mazda
02-28-2013, 07:49 PM
Coach, bakit nga pala nawala sa Tanduay noon si Chualay at napalitan ni Manong Derrick? Hehe.

ironcoach
02-28-2013, 08:48 PM
Coach, bakit nga pala nawala sa Tanduay noon si Chualay at napalitan ni Manong Derrick? Hehe.

The reason or explanation that boss Bong Tan gave me (as if he needs to give me one) was that directive daw yon ng uncle niya due to undesired character or trait. Too brash or too volatile for the company's desired image. Yun lang ang nasabi or nai-kwento sa akin.

ironcoach
03-03-2013, 11:13 AM
Just got back from a 3-days team building session with my Boracay Rum team in Baguio City. But beyond the bonding, all the basketball preparations, discussions & talks, all the For-The-Boys stuffs...is the location(the haven). The mystique, the history, the calm, thecool weather, the natives, the souvenirs, the memories, the magic...the City of Pines. It IS more fun in the Philippines. :)

bchoter
03-03-2013, 03:06 PM
Coach, what are the implications to his eligibility if a men's basketball player suits up in the United Football League?

ironcoach
03-03-2013, 06:23 PM
Coach, what are the implications to his eligibility if a men's basketball player suits up in the United Football League?

Sino ba yang tinutukoy mo? :) Well, kung dito sa Pinas yan, i guess bawal yan sa PBA & sa mga collegiate leagues. Maybe sa PBA D-League pwedeng makalusot yan. Anything goes naman dun eh.

bchoter
03-04-2013, 02:31 AM
Sorry coach, kulang sa detalye. May collegiate player na gustong maglaro sa United Football League Division II. Sa inyong pagkakaalam from your coaching stint in UE, may effect ba ito sa eligibility ng player sa UAAP? The UFL is a semi-pro league like the PBL, back when it was relevant, and the DLeague now. The player was already allowed to play in the DLeague, meaning he has completed 2 UAAP seasons

Ahura Mazda
03-04-2013, 07:11 AM
The reason or explanation that boss Bong Tan gave me (as if he needs to give me one) was that directive daw yon ng uncle niya due to undesired character or trait. Too brash or too volatile for the company's desired image. Yun lang ang nasabi or nai-kwento sa akin.
I see. So it had nothing to do sa coaching niya mismo. Hehe.

Btw, coach, what can you say about this photo that was posted by Snow Badua?

http://i.imgur.com/3z3hFj9.jpg

ironcoach
03-04-2013, 07:37 AM
Sorry coach, kulang sa detalye. May collegiate player na gustong maglaro sa United Football League Division II. Sa inyong pagkakaalam from your coaching stint in UE, may effect ba ito sa eligibility ng player sa UAAP? The UFL is a semi-pro league like the PBL, back when it was relevant, and the DLeague now. The player was already allowed to play in the DLeague, meaning he has completed 2 UAAP seasons

My common sense tells me that bawal yan sa UAAP. So far, yung 1st hand experience ko lang is yung case ni Xian Lim. But siya naman eh nag-artista at totally walked away from the UE mens basketball team. Good move though, as we can now all see. :)

ironcoach
03-04-2013, 07:44 AM
Coach, bakit nga pala nawala sa Tanduay noon si Chualay at napalitan ni Manong Derrick? Hehe.

Chua had won 7 PBL titles for boss Bong Tan's team in the 90's & ended 1st runner-up in his very 1st PBA conference in 1999. FYI.

pio_valenz
03-04-2013, 09:52 AM
Sorry coach, kulang sa detalye. May collegiate player na gustong maglaro sa United Football League Division II. Sa inyong pagkakaalam from your coaching stint in UE, may effect ba ito sa eligibility ng player sa UAAP? The UFL is a semi-pro league like the PBL, back when it was relevant, and the DLeague now. The player was already allowed to play in the DLeague, meaning he has completed 2 UAAP seasons

Makikisingit lang, Manong bchoter. Sa pagkakaalam ko, UAAP players can play in the UFL during the UAAP football off-season. Kapag naglaro sila while the UAAP season is in progress, or at least while their team is still in contention, doon may problema. Ang mga players ng La Salle at FEU naglaro agad sa UFL last month after their teams were eliminated from the Final Four.

yungha
03-04-2013, 03:28 PM
Coach, what are the implications to his eligibility if a men's basketball player suits up in the United Football League?

i suppose this is about karim abdul?

as far as i know playing in the ufl doesn't affect one's eligibility. even freshmen who haven't played a minute in the uaap can play there without jeopardizing their eligibility.

but then again abdul shouldn't tempt fate. we all know how the uaap board can come up with new rules and regulations if it's to their advantage.

pio_valenz
03-04-2013, 04:55 PM
^Basta wag lang while the UAAP football season is in progress. UP had to forfeit all its wins in 2010 after midfielder Ayi suited up in the UFL during the UAAP season.

ironcoach
03-05-2013, 01:36 AM
Ayan. UFL at UAAP eligibilty pala ang bubuhay muli sa thread na ito. :) Kung anu-ano pa kasi ang ipinagdudut-dutan ko dito kasi eh.
Wala namang may interesado. Is UFL a soccer league? Napag-iwanan na nga talaga ako. :)

bchoter
03-05-2013, 01:46 AM
Thanks for the response ironcoach, yungha at pareng pio. Wala rin kasing clear cut policy on playing for a semi-pro league from another sports discipline.


but then again abdul shouldn't tempt fate. we all know how the uaap board can come up with new rules and regulations if it's to their advantage.Exactly what I told him but the kid really wants to live here for good and, for him, basketball is just a means to get a degree while football presents a mid- to long-term option.

BLUE HORSE
03-05-2013, 05:30 AM
If Abdul marries a Pinay and takes out a Pinoy citizenship, will the PBA automatically consider him a Pinoy or still an import? The money the PBA is throwing at players is nothing to sneeze at given the current exchange rate.

pio_valenz
03-05-2013, 07:52 AM
^Still an import. Kung si Alex Compton nga na ipinanganak na dito, considered import pa rin eh.

Coach, were you able to drop by the NBTC High School All-Star Game last Sunday? If yes, which player impressed you the most?

ironcoach
03-05-2013, 02:33 PM
^Still an import. Kung si Alex Compton nga na ipinanganak na dito, considered import pa rin eh.

Coach, were you able to drop by the NBTC High School All-Star Game last Sunday? If yes, which player impressed you the most?

Si Bobby Parks Sr. & Norman Black mga Pinay din napangasawa. Yung mga offsprings nila ang pwedeng i-classify na Pinoys but hindi yung mga tatay.

I don't watch high school leagues anymore. Walang relevance sa trabaho ko now and hindi talaga man lang niyan mahuli ang kiliti ko para panoorin ko pa. Probably if i have a son na naglalaro o kasali. Pwede pa kung ganun.

cheeze
03-05-2013, 08:28 PM
Coach, maiba lang ng konti, kumusta yung laro ni Xiam Lim? Sabi kasi ng kaibigan ko na miron din, parang di kaya makipagbabakan nun sa uaap. mas maganda ba laro niya kumpara kay gerald anderson? balita ko kasi may ibang mga schools ang nag-recruit kay gerald kaso nag-artista.

ironcoach
03-05-2013, 10:01 PM
Coach, maiba lang ng konti, kumusta yung laro ni Xiam Lim? Sabi kasi ng kaibigan ko na miron din, parang di kaya makipagbabakan nun sa uaap. mas maganda ba laro niya kumpara kay gerald anderson? balita ko kasi may ibang mga schools ang nag-recruit kay gerald kaso nag-artista.

Hindi ko napansin eh. Less than a month after i went to UE, he was gone. I suppose marunong din siya maglaro kahit paano. Same with Gerald Anderson. Ma-ugong din na magaling siya and that some D-League teams(siguro yung mga bading ang team managers or coaches) were really interested in hiring him. Pero i've never seen him play at all.

Ahura Mazda
03-05-2013, 10:23 PM
Chua had won 7 PBL titles for boss Bong Tan's team in the 90's & ended 1st runner-up in his very 1st PBA conference in 1999. FYI.
Yes, coach. I know that he had tremendous success in the PBL. But the PBA has been an entirely different experience for him. :D

jmikery
03-05-2013, 10:38 PM
Hindi ko napansin eh. Less than a month after i went to UE, he was gone. I suppose marunong din siya maglaro kahit paano. Same with Gerald Anderson. Ma-ugong din na magaling siya and that some D-League teams(siguro yung mga bading ang team managers or coaches) were really interested in hiring him. Pero i've never seen him play at all.

I know wala tong contribution sa discussion pero your comment re: managers/coaches really had me cracking up coach.

What's your take on the Pinggoy rule that the UAAP just approved, specifically yung part about 2 year residency agad ang transferee, kahit irerelease man o hindi. To me that seems to be an intimidation ploy. Parang ayaw na nila pag isipan pa ng bata na lumipat kaya sinara agad na walang pakiusap magagawa.

Sige gawin niyong 2 years residency kung walang release pero kahit ba naman mga irerelease ipapag residency nila? Pano yung mga sports outside basketball? Marami ring athlete doon na hindi sinasagad 5 years eligibility, tinatapos lang 4 year course habang naglalaro. Now, if lumipat sila hindi sila makakalaro for 2 of those years? I thought the UAAP was about developing student-athletes yet maraming papagpiliin yung rule na to between academics and athletics, lalo na sa mga non-basketball sport.

Kung let's say swimmer ako sa NU HS, na no offense ay hindi kasing galing na school kumpara sa UP, at offeran ako ng scholarship to UP. Kailangan ko pumili, 4 o 5 taon lang siguro meron ako sa organized competitive swimming pero mababawasan yun ng 2 years kung mag UP ako yet mas maganda ang career prospects ng UP graduate sa NU graduate. Kung sagarin ko naman eligibility ko sa UP, that's 2 years of income and experience that I'll be passing up. Parang hindi naman fair diba? Lalo na kung wala naman problema yung school na pakawalan ako

cheeze
03-05-2013, 11:10 PM
Hindi ko napansin eh. Less than a month after i went to UE, he was gone. I suppose marunong din siya maglaro kahit paano. Same with Gerald Anderson. Ma-ugong din na magaling siya and that some D-League teams(siguro yung mga bading ang team managers or coaches) were really interested in hiring him. Pero i've never seen him play at all.

salamat coach! more power at nag-eenjoy akong marining ang inyong opinyon sa mga bagay na ito.

ironcoach
03-06-2013, 08:11 AM
Yes, coach. I know that he had tremendous success in the PBL. But the PBA has been an entirely different experience for him. :D

Hindi ko lang sure pero parang hindi nga ata nakapasok ng semis ang SLR from 2003-2006 when he was at the helm then after just 1 year, nag-champion agad ang SLR with Boyet Fernandez. Paki-check nalang sa PBA files just to be sure.

ironcoach
03-06-2013, 08:46 AM
I know wala tong contribution sa discussion pero your comment re: managers/coaches really had me cracking up coach.

What's your take on the Pinggoy rule that the UAAP just approved, specifically yung part about 2 year residency agad ang transferee, kahit irerelease man o hindi. To me that seems to be an intimidation ploy. Parang ayaw na nila pag isipan pa ng bata na lumipat kaya sinara agad na walang pakiusap magagawa...

...Parang hindi naman fair diba? Lalo na kung wala naman problema yung school na pakawalan ako

For sure kaya ginawa yang ruling na yan is to protect the interest of the poorer and bulok-er school. Sino ba namang nasa may tamang pag-iisip o discretion ang hindi nanaisin o mas pipiliing makapag-aral o magkaron ng diploma from the likes of Ateneo, DLSU, UP or at least man lang UST?

Lets face it. If not because of basketball, anong karapatan nina Baclao, Al-Hussaini, Salamat, Buenafe, Nkemakolam & Slaughter makapasok, much less, magka-diploma from the Ateneo?? Same goes to the likes of Cardona, Andrada, Gaco, Limpot & Benitez of DLSU.

Angking talino lang ang pwedeng pam-puhunan ng mga mahihirap na high school basketball players na makatungtong sa mga tanyag na paaralan (not to say na hindi tanyag ang FEU, UE, NU & Adamson, but they're just not DLSU, ADMU or UP) like ADMU or DLSU. Therefore para sa akin, that ruling smacks of hypocrisy & anti-freedom of choice. Ano ito? Martial Law all over again?

Im sure yung mga may pakana ng ruling na ito meant well pero malamang mga Martial Law babies ang mga ito for them to resort to these measures. Wala man lang ba out of 8 school representatives ang naging sensitive sa issue ng demokrasya? I wonder ano yung stand ng UP dito.

If you'd recall, nung nagka-botohan sa FIBA 2 decades ago kung papayagan ba o hindi ang mga professionals na maglaro sa Olympics, the U.S., who has the most NBA players, even voted against it. Hindi dapat maka-sarili when it comes to making or creating laws or rules.

jmikery
03-06-2013, 08:53 AM
For sure kaya ginawa yang ruling na yan is to protect the interest of the poorer and bulok-er school. Sino ba namang nasa may tamang pag-iisip o discretion ang hindi nanaisin o mas pipiliing makapag-aral o magkaron ng diploma from the likes of Ateneo, DLSU, UP or at least man lang UST?

Lets face it. If not because of basketball, anong karapatan nina Baclao, Al-Hussaini, Salamat, Buenafe, Nkemakolam & Slaughter makapasok, much less, magka-diploma from the Ateneo?? Same goes to the likes of Cardona, Andrada, Gaco, Limpot & Benitez of DLSU.

Angking talino lang ang pwedeng pam-puhunan ng mga mahihirap na high school basketball players na makatungtong sa mga tanyag na paaralan (not to say na hindi tanyag ang FEU, UE, NU & Adamson, but they're just not DLSU, ADMU or UP) like ADMU or DLSU. Therefore para sa akin, that ruling smacks of hypocrisy & anti-freedom of choice. Ano ito? Martial Law all over again?

Im sure yung mga may pakana ng ruling na ito meant well pero malamang mga Martial Law babies ang mga ito for them to resort to these measures. Wala man lang ba out of 8 school representatives ang naging sensitive sa issue ng demokrasya? I wonder ano yung stand ng UP dito.

If you'd recall, nung nagka-botohan sa FIBA 2 decades ago kung papayagan ba o hindi ang mga professionals na maglaro sa Olympics, the U.S., who has the most NBA players, even voted against it. Hindi dapat maka-sarili when it comes to making or creating laws or rules.

Tumpak coach (small point of contention lang, si Slaughter nasa top 2% of Acet takers. Kahit di siya 7 footer, makakapasok pa rin), UP and Ateneo voted against it and I'm surprised DLSU voted for it but siguro confident sila that they can skirt rules via earlier recruitment.

ironcoach
03-06-2013, 09:06 AM
You can see how utak-biya most of our decision-makers can be. Nakakalungkot na itong mga ito ang naatasan na mag-desisyon at gumawa ng mga remedyo regarding basketball matters. Of course maka-sarili ang mga patakaran na yan. To protect the schools' interest, to have parity among the UAAP teams, etc. But what about yung karapatang pang-tao? Yung freedom of choice? Yung RIGHT ng isang tao??!!! Same old story here in our society. We just really have to pull each other down to complete our day. And then some people just love playing God. Pathetic.

ironcoach
03-06-2013, 09:23 AM
Tumpak coach (small point of contention lang, si Slaughter nasa top 2% of Acet takers. Kahit di siya 7 footer, makakapasok pa rin), UP and Ateneo voted against it and I'm surprised DLSU voted for it but siguro confident sila that they can skirt rules via earlier recruitment.

So how come Slaughter went to Univ. of Visayas if he's really that smart? Pero what i meant is that basketball parin ang nagdala kay Slaughter sa ADMU. Maraming matalino riyan pero perhaps financial constraint or whatever kaya umaasa either sa academic or athletic scholarships.

Wala namang mali sa vote ng DLSU eh. Win at all cost sila and they're not hiding it. Hindi sila nagpapa-ipokrito. We can see with our own eyes naman yung evolution ng college basketball these past few years. Kung wala kang milyones na isusunog sa programa mo each year, hindi ka mananalo diyan. DLSU has Tim Cone as consultant & Allan Caidic as shooting coach. Not to mention Jun Limpot na big men's coach naman. Kung dadaanin mo parin sa school pride lang o sa cheers & support ng mga students & alumni, aba eh Jurassic ka nga.

You've got top guns Manny Pangilinan, Danding Cojuangco & Hans Sy throwing their "bottomless" support sa ADMU, SBC, DLSU & NU
respectively here. You just don't stand a chance. Mga bilyonaryo in U.S. Dollars ang mga taong ito. What they want...they get. Think about it. Kaya nga siguro kailangan din yung Pingoy Rule ng mga schools not mentioned here. Hehe!

Big Ticket
03-06-2013, 09:54 AM
Coach, any changes to boracay rum's lineup for the upcoming dleague conference?

Big Ticket
03-06-2013, 09:57 AM
Hindi ko napansin eh. Less than a month after i went to UE, he was gone. I suppose marunong din siya maglaro kahit paano. Same with Gerald Anderson. Ma-ugong din na magaling siya and that some D-League teams(siguro yung mga bading ang team managers or coaches) were really interested in hiring him. Pero i've never seen him play at all.

I have seen gerald play and marunong sya...PG ang laro...pede siguro sa dleague yun kung papayagan ng ABS... He's better than ervic vijandre of erase xfoliant hehe..

bchoter
03-06-2013, 10:05 AM
Kung dadaanin mo parin sa school pride lang o sa cheers & support ng mga students & alumni, aba eh Jurassic ka nga.
Tripol P coach, Tripol P! Ouch! Napakasakit mong magsalita coach... ouch! bwahaha... huhuhu.

Demet, the joke is on us(t)!

My two cents, UST, obviously, voted to protect itself because it is the most mined school in recent years, with a couple of basketball players and it's women's volleyball future swiped under the watchful eyes of jurrasic.. .err... Fr. DS. But this makes this same rule makes it more difficult for UST because there is limited funds for Team B. Just recently, a Fil-For PG, who could have cracked the line up if he wasn't subject to a 2-year residency, just decided to leave the country because UST cannot offer full scholarship. UST has virtually no chance at can't-miss prospects. We just handicapped ourselves with middle of the pack recruits.

Big Ticket
03-06-2013, 10:16 AM
Tripol P coach, Tripol P! Ouch! Napakasakit mong magsalita coach... ouch! bwahaha... huhuhu.

Demet, the joke is on us(t)!

My two cents, UST, obviously, voted to protect itself because it is the most mined school in recent years, with a couple of basketball players and it's women's volleyball future swiped under the watchful eyes of jurrasic.. .err... Fr. D....

Neypes, labing-isa, valdez, santiago among others...

bchoter
03-06-2013, 10:26 AM
...Patnongon, the other Santiago, Fajardo, Lazaro. That's virtually your starting 6, a libero plus 1

ironcoach
03-06-2013, 12:23 PM
Coach, any changes to boracay rum's lineup for the upcoming dleague conference?

Jerry Santos lang went AWOL since mid-Feb kahit na sa March 15 pa supposedly mag-expire ang contract niya with us. I heard he's trying out with the new team, Pampanga. I added Lucas Tagarda lang to my otherwise intact team. No point in rocking the boat too much. Baby pa naman ang D-League so tulad niya, we are also taking baby steps in our build-up & expenditures. For now, we're avoiding going & spending head-on with the likes of NLEX, Big Chill & Cebuana para hindi matindi ang pag-untog sa pader.

There were teams or companies in the league's 1st 4 conferences na nag-wishful thinking kaya ayun...na-disband even before the D-League turned 2 years old. :)

Walang masama maging passionate and/or competitive or mag-magaling. Pero ang dapat unahin talaga eh yung magpaka-TOTOO.

Joescoundrel
03-06-2013, 01:28 PM
...Patnongon, the other Santiago, Fajardo, Lazaro. That's virtually your starting 6, a libero plus 1

Brod, hindi ba kay Wang-bu galing si Aeriel Patnogon?

ironcoach
03-06-2013, 06:19 PM
Brod, hindi ba kay Wang-bu galing si Aeriel Patnogon?

Ang dapat i-police (kung may yag-bols sila) sa collegiate circuit eh yung mga incentives, mga signing bonuses, mga perks, mga salaries, endorsements at kung anu-ano pang monetary considerations na natatanggap o inaalok sa mga collegiate athletes. Alam kong malabong zero (just like in the US NCAA) kaya magkasundo nalang ang mga schools involved sa figures. Halimbawa sa isang freshman between P2000/month to P5000/month allowances, sa isang sophomore naman eh from P3000 to P6000, then so on & so forth (kung kelangan pa gawing P30000 to P50000 per month then so be it basta equal opportunities). Huwag lang pilitin o ipitin yung mga hi-school standouts na tumanggap ng P3000/month samantalang ino-offeran yung bata ng P15000 to P20000/month ng ibang malls este, schools.

Alam ko na supposedly wala ngang pera involved sa college pero nagiging ipokrito na tayo masyado niyan at niloloko nalang natin niyan ang ating mga sarili. Para lang may chance din ang mga poorer (barat or corrupt) schools (officials) ma-retain ang kani-kanilang mga high school treasures. Lakihan ang penalty ng mga mahuhuling lalabag dito. Ang hilig-hilig narin lang naman natin gumaya sa America, eh di lubus-lubusin na.

ironcoach
03-06-2013, 06:28 PM
Kaya naman din ayaw talakayin ng mga genius na yan yung tungkol sa mga incentives at monetary angles is because halos lahat naman yan eh lumabag niyan. Hahahahaha!!!! Tayo lang nga yata sa buong mundo ang may collegiate leagues na ang mga team uniforms eh nagmistulang billboards. Kanya-kanyang raket lang yan. Dyan nga ako magaling eh. :)

bchoter
03-07-2013, 03:23 AM
... and a school can be penalized for pass deeds just like in the USNCAA. Makalusot man sa current season pero, in the future, pwedeng mapakanta ang player na tumanggap, parang sa case ng Michigan's Fab 5.

Ibang aspect of this new rule naman coach, while you were in UE nagkaroon na ba kayo ng recruit na inaruga niyo pero nilayasan kayo? If yes, were you able to recoup your expenses? Or charge to experience nalang? Natanong ko ito kasi maaring may mga batang ginastusan na ng town house, wheels at 50K++ na biglang kakambyo ng desisyon at di na tutuloy sa school na nag paluwal ng ganong halaga. Kung mangyari ito sa'yo coach, will you take it against hte kid and his family?

ironcoach
03-07-2013, 09:33 AM
... and a school can be penalized for pass deeds just like in the USNCAA. Makalusot man sa current season pero, in the future, pwedeng mapakanta ang player na tumanggap, parang sa case ng Michigan's Fab 5.

Ibang aspect of this new rule naman coach, while you were in UE nagkaroon na ba kayo ng recruit na inaruga niyo pero nilayasan kayo? If yes, were you able to recoup your expenses? Or charge to experience nalang? Natanong ko ito kasi maaring may mga batang ginastusan na ng town house, wheels at 50K++ na biglang kakambyo ng desisyon at di na tutuloy sa school na nag paluwal ng ganong halaga. Kung mangyari ito sa'yo coach, will you take it against hte kid and his family?

Meron pero puro college recruits lang and wala naman yung galing ng high school. Kung meron man (high school recruit that backed-out for whatever reasons) eh hindi naman significant na kawalan. One recruit na talagang nasayang yung investments ko (kadalasan naman abonado muna ako bago maka-reimburse later on dun sa pinag-lingkuran kong unibersidad-ako lang yatang coach ang gumagawa nun) is Kinsman Frando-currently nasa team B ng Arellano. Lipad talaga(more or less P70-80,000 representing plane fare, meals & allowances for 4-5 months) ang pera ko dun.

San Beda offered P30000 for his (services) but NU was willing to pay me P80000 so i made him go to NU. After a couple of months while i was in the US, he bolted NU because he couldn't stand Altamirano's face anymore and jumped ship to SBC. Now SBC, thru Mike Advani/Frankie Lim (these guys, other than being SBC alumni & MVP boys, simply has no class) thinking that "yung daga na ang
lumapit sa leon" and that the last laugh's on me, wouldn't pay me a peso for Frando this time. Eh ako naman magtatanong lang ng minsan tapos kapag ayaw mo di huwag mo. Charge to experience nalang.

Pero ibang usapan naman siguro yung nakatanggap na ng townhouse, kotse & 50,000 tapos kakambyo sa usapan. May ganun ba talaga? Gawin kaya yan dati sa Baste nung sina Mayor Pineda pa ang nagma-manage ng team...malamang....:)

ironcoach
03-07-2013, 09:39 AM
...while you were in UE nagkaroon na ba kayo ng recruit na inaruga niyo pero nilayasan kayo? If yes, were you able to recoup your expenses? Or charge to experience nalang? Natanong ko ito kasi maaring may mga batang ginastusan na ng town house, wheels at 50K++ na biglang kakambyo ng desisyon at di na tutuloy sa school na nag paluwal ng ganong halaga. Kung mangyari ito sa'yo coach, will you take it against hte kid and his family?

Unang-una, hinding-hindi mangyayari sa akin yon coz segurista ako. Kung maisahan man nila kami eh yung barya lang namin. :)

Sam Miguel
03-07-2013, 10:44 AM
Coach with your vast experience in various semi-commercial and other leagues, how do you assess how much a player should get in pay?

For instance, nung Bacchus ang hawak mo sa PBL, who was your highest-paid player there?

ironcoach
03-07-2013, 05:10 PM
Coach with your vast experience in various semi-commercial and other leagues, how do you assess how much a player should get in pay?

For instance, nung Bacchus ang hawak mo sa PBL, who was your highest-paid player there?

First things first. Yung liga muna dapat mag-determine/mag-impose kung ano ang maximum at minimum salary/allowance na pina-
payagan nila then the teams will work from there (assuming na no teams are breaching the parameters being imposed by a certain
league.

For example sa case ni Paul Lee when he applied for the PBL Draft in Oct. 2008. The maximum salary for a rookie at that time was
P15,000. Eh we got Paul with the 7th (yup! 7th) pick na so we offered him P12,000 per month. The 1st pick in that draft was Chris Ross by Pharex so i assume he was offered P15,000 per month.

In 2005, while we were still known as Bacchus, im guessing Nani Epondulan was our highest paid player at P15,000/month. Different era, different salary scale kasi. The max allowed in the PBA D-League is (still is) P30,000/ month kaya thats what we gave Paul Lee in the D-League's very 1st conference.

We carried Bacchus again in the PBL's 2007-2008 season (we carried Mail & More then Burger King in 2006-07 & JR Quinahan was our highest paid player at P35,000/month) and sina Christian Luanzon & Mark Yee ang mga highest-paid players namin at P20,000
per month each.

By the way, why do you ask?

ironcoach
03-07-2013, 05:19 PM
Coach with your vast experience in various semi-commercial and other leagues, how do you assess how much a player should get in pay?

For instance, nung Bacchus ang hawak mo sa PBL, who was your highest-paid player there?

Actually, its not my business na to assess the price of a certain player. For example if ang offer ko eh P10,000 pero ang gusto o asking price ng isang player o ng agent niya is P20,000, no choice ako kundi ibigay yon, tawaran yon, at kung hindi magkaka-sundo, eh humanap nalang ng iba. Its simple as that. Basically, its the players that can command their prices. Kami naman magka-counter offer lang or either give-in or give up sa asking price ng player. Kahit sa PBA naman ganyan din.

Big Ticket
03-07-2013, 06:07 PM
Coach, musta ang boracay rum for the incoming dleague conf? Any new recruits?

ironcoach
03-07-2013, 07:27 PM
Coach, musta ang boracay rum for the incoming dleague conf? Any new recruits?

We just added Lucas Tagarda. Im hoping & praying that we'll do better this conference. Ok na sa akin ang makapasok man lang sa semis. :)

ironcoach
03-09-2013, 10:45 PM
Did u guys enjoy the drama that unfolded in the PBA last night? Nagmistulang WWE, and the most unusual thing about it, the cast of characters all came from the same team! We've witnessed fisticuffs, duruan, balyahan, tulakan, hawian, hamunan at sakmalan among opponents. But among teamates?? At isama mo pa ang isang miyembro ng coaching staff...its really one for the books. Ito'y isang eksena na hinding-hindi mo basta-bastang masasaksihan sa mahabang kasaysayan ng Asia's first ever professional basketball league, or any basketball league around the world for that matter.

Whats going on? At ito'y nangyari pa sa pinaka-pioneer na team sa PBA. Supposedly sila itong pinaka-beteranong mag-manage at pinaka-matinik magpatakbo ng team. What gives?

bydpogi
03-10-2013, 12:07 AM
Coach kung kayo po coach nung Balkman na yun, ano pong parusa ibibigay nyo sa kanya? automatic po ba na the next day eh may ticket na yun pauwi ng bansa nya? thanks...

ironcoach
03-10-2013, 12:27 AM
Coach kung kayo po coach nung Balkman na yun, ano pong parusa ibibigay nyo sa kanya? automatic po ba na the next day eh may ticket na yun pauwi ng bansa nya? thanks...

Just because naipa-panalo niya ang team niya, i might just call for a team members only closed-door meeting to resolve the issue & move on. But since 6 pts lang nagawa niya sa game kagabi (too shabby for an import na matindi pa naman ang expectations sa kanya), and hindi rin lang naman pala kayang talunin ang Alaska...pwede na yan palitan.

Kung LeBron James or Kevin Durant numbers lang sana ang naibibigay niya every game at parati kaming panalo, ipaglalaban ko pa yan kahit araw-araw pa niyang sakalin si Arwind at itulak sina Tubid at Ravanes. :)

Big Ticket
03-10-2013, 03:15 PM
Kung sa UE team nyo dati nangyari yon, paul lee at elmer espiritu nagsakalan on national tv, ano po gagawin nyo? Hehe

ironcoach
03-11-2013, 12:43 AM
Kung sa UE team nyo dati nangyari yon, paul lee at elmer espiritu nagsakalan on national tv, ano po gagawin nyo? Hehe

Papabili ako ng pop corn. E-enjoyin ko yung palabas. :)

Big Ticket
03-11-2013, 10:06 AM
Papabili ako ng pop corn. E-enjoyin ko yung palabas. :)

Who do you think would win? Hehe

ironcoach
03-11-2013, 12:43 PM
Who do you think would win? Hehe

I think si Paul. Mas makapal sa tingin ko yung leeg niya as compared to Elmer's. Kung sabunutan naman panalo din dyan si Paul since kalbo siya. :)

Big Ticket
03-11-2013, 06:12 PM
Good luck to boracay rum sa d-league bukas....

genom222
03-11-2013, 07:34 PM
Coach, due to the recent events from the Balkman incident, SMC is now thinking of "re-evaluating" it participation in the PBA. Do you think this would happen? Or are they just using this to also send a message to the PBA? I personally think that the ban was the right decision (I am a San Miguel fan) and kudos to the Commish for having the guts to di it. Did you agree with the penalties given to Balkman?

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/smc-to-re-evaluate-teams-participation-in-pba-in-wake-of-balkman-drama-v02

badger
03-11-2013, 07:40 PM
Coach, ano pinagkaiba sa ginawa ni Balkman compared kay Arboleda to merit a lifetime ban?

genom222
03-11-2013, 08:00 PM
Might be because decision were made by 2 different commisioners but for me dapat si Aroboleda banned na yan nun time na yun. Lets see what Coach has to say hehe

ironcoach
03-12-2013, 01:12 AM
Good luck to boracay rum sa d-league bukas....

Thank you, thank you. We haven't beaten Cebuana Gems in 3 tries in 3 conferences. Tomorrow could be a good day to end that drought. We could get a better view to a kill.

Sam Miguel
03-12-2013, 02:15 PM
Coach, I just wanted to know what the pay scale was like in the PBL during your Bacchus days. I was also wondering if it was ever any bigger. I did not know for instance that JR Quinahan made P35,000 a month at one time.

Were there rules as to how much a team can give in bonuses and other incentives? I can imagine teams like Magnolia / Vive Mineral Water, Welcoat Paints and Harbour Centre must have been very generous in this respect.

ironcoach
03-12-2013, 09:03 PM
Coach, due to the recent events from the Balkman incident, SMC is now thinking of "re-evaluating" it participation in the PBA. Do you think this would happen? Or are they just using this to also send a message to the PBA? I personally think that the ban was the right decision (I am a San Miguel fan) and kudos to the Commish for having the guts to di it. Did you agree with the penalties given to Balkman?

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/smc-to-re-evaluate-teams-participation-in-pba-in-wake-of-balkman-drama-v02

Its hard to say or read yung body language ng SMC dun sa press release nila about "re-evaluating their participation" sa PBA.
Pwedeng "reminder" lang na hindi birong kalabanin sila, or talagang this time around eh naapektuhan narin sila sa negative publicity na bina-bato sa kanila. Or pwede ring nafu-frustrate narin sila sa mga poor results ng ibang mga teams nila inspite of a lot of "power play" moves.

No doubt dedbol ang PBA kapag umatras na sa PBA ang SMC. At alam din yan ng RoS, Alaska, PLDT (TnT, Meralco) at mas lalo na ng Airfreight 2100. Kaya nga yung iba sa kanila eh nagsasawalang-kibo nalang sa mga SMC lopsided deals, at yung mas tuso,
pinagkaka-perahan nalang ito.

But the PBA has been an entertainment staple for Pinoys these past 38 years and a dream profession for every young Pinoy
basketeers. So for those reasons alone, we should all pray na hindi nga seryoso ang SMC sa sentimyento nila. After all, re-evaluating palang naman eh.

ironcoach
03-12-2013, 09:21 PM
Coach, ano pinagkaiba sa ginawa ni Balkman compared kay Arboleda to merit a lifetime ban?

halos walang pinag-iba naman ang mga offenses nilang dalawa. Mas malala pa nga supposedly yung kay Wynne kasi may nasaktan. Ano ang pinagka-iba nung dalawa?? Hindi ba obviously yung lahi? I read somewhere about "violating Arboleda's rights, as a Filipino, to make a living in his own country, tapos yung kay Balkman eh parang classified naman as "undesirable alien", na kahit i-ban mo dito sa Pinas, eh pwede pa namang maghanap-buhay sa iba't-ibang mga bansa.

Make no mistake na hindi talaga dapat i-condone what Mr. Balkman had done. And "ang batas ay malupit...pero eto parin ang batas"
surely applies to him and in this situation. But how about comparing this episode to kapag ang Pinoy commits a crime in another
country tapos bitay ang hatol, our government exerts all efforts, including shouldering blood money, just so his life can be spared. Tapos kapag dayuhan naman ang gumawa ng kalokohan dito sa atin, it automatically hits our sensitivities and we are also not as forgiving. Oh well, yung mga ganyang pag-iisip o taglay na damdamin...may pinaghu-hugutan ang lahat ng yan.

ironcoach
03-12-2013, 09:25 PM
Coach, ano pinagkaiba sa ginawa ni Balkman compared kay Arboleda to merit a lifetime ban?

halos walang pinag-iba naman ang mga offenses nilang dalawa. Mas malala pa nga supposedly yung kay Wynne kasi may nasaktan. Ano ang pinagka-iba nung dalawa?? Hindi ba obviously yung lahi? I read somewhere about "violating Arboleda's rights, as a Filipino, to make a living in his own country, tapos yung kay Balkman eh parang classified naman as "undesirable alien", na kahit i-ban mo dito sa Pinas, eh pwede pa namang maghanap-buhay sa iba't-ibang mga bansa.

Make no mistake na hindi talaga dapat i-condone what Mr. Balkman had done. And "ang batas ay malupit...pero eto parin ang batas"
surely applies to him and in this situation. But how about comparing this episode to kapag ang Pinoy commits a crime in another
country tapos bitay ang hatol, our government exerts all efforts, including shouldering blood money, just so his life can be spared. Tapos kapag dayuhan naman ang gumawa ng kalokohan dito sa atin, it automatically hits our sensitivities and we are also not as forgiving. Oh well, yung mga ganyang pag-iisip o taglay na damdamin...may pinaghu-hugutan ang lahat ng yan.

ironcoach
03-12-2013, 09:38 PM
Might be because decision were made by 2 different commisioners but for me dapat si Aroboleda banned na yan nun time na yun. Lets see what Coach has to say hehe

Bro, yung sagot ko kay badger, yun narin ang sagot dito sa tanong mo.

ironcoach
03-12-2013, 09:55 PM
Coach, I just wanted to know what the pay scale was like in the PBL during your Bacchus days. I was also wondering if it was ever any bigger. I did not know for instance that JR Quinahan made P35,000 a month at one time.

Were there rules as to how much a team can give in bonuses and other incentives? I can imagine teams like Magnolia / Vive Mineral Water, Welcoat Paints and Harbour Centre must have been very generous in this respect.

It was on 2 separate seasons kasi that we carried Bacchus sa PBL. The 1st time was nung 2nd conference of the PBL 2004-2005 season (from March to June 2005 yon-we carried Air Philippines nung 1st conference) while from October 2007-February 2009 kami uli
inisponsoran ng Bacchus (we were sponsored by Mail & More then by Burger King from October 2006 to June 2007).

Yung pay scale sa PBL, and same thing din naman sa PBA, relies sa value o demand ng isang player. Like sa case ni JR Quinahan,
asking price niya yung P35,000/ month (PBL max) so it was a "take it or leave it" scenario for us. May mga players din lalo na yung
mga "role players at most" na gusto rin ng malaking sahod pero kami naman ang magbibigay sa kanila ng "take it or leave it offer"?
Sino ba namang player ang ayaw ng max salary? Yun lang nga, hindi naman lahat eh pang "max salary" ang talent. Marami ding
pang-minimum lang talaga o yung mga tinatawag na project o charity cases.

ironcoach
03-12-2013, 10:20 PM
Coach, I just wanted to know what the pay scale was like in the PBL during your Bacchus days. I was also wondering if it was ever any bigger. I did not know for instance that JR Quinahan made P35,000 a month at one time.

Were there rules as to how much a team can give in bonuses and other incentives? I can imagine teams like Magnolia / Vive Mineral Water, Welcoat Paints and Harbour Centre must have been very generous in this respect.

At exactly the same conference that we acquired JR Quinahan (for P35,000/month), i was also able to acquire Ronjay Buenafe in the
"3rd Round" of that season's dispersal draft (that was the conference after Montana Pawnshop disbanded). Ronjay's monthly salary with us (at that time)??? TWELVE THOUSAND PESOS (P12,000) PER MONTH. Its a result of "wala pang napapatunayan" at "hindi naman
in-demand".

Five Hundred Pesos (P500) lang ang per win game nun but most teams, us included, would give x2, x3 and so on and so forth
depending sa games whether crucial o playoffs o katuwaan lang. Depende rin of course sa kakayahan ng team o company na gumastos.

ironcoach
03-12-2013, 10:22 PM
Coach, I just wanted to know what the pay scale was like in the PBL during your Bacchus days. I was also wondering if it was ever any bigger. I did not know for instance that JR Quinahan made P35,000 a month at one time.

Were there rules as to how much a team can give in bonuses and other incentives? I can imagine teams like Magnolia / Vive Mineral Water, Welcoat Paints and Harbour Centre must have been very generous in this respect.

At exactly the same conference that we acquired JR Quinahan (for P35,000/month), i was also able to acquire Ronjay Buenafe in the
"3rd Round" of that season's dispersal draft (that was the conference after Montana Pawnshop disbanded). Ronjay's monthly salary with us (at that time)??? TWELVE THOUSAND PESOS (P12,000) PER MONTH. Its a result of "wala pang napapatunayan" at "hindi naman
in-demand".

Five Hundred Pesos (P500) lang ang per win game nun but most teams, us included, would give x2, x3 and so on and so forth
depending sa games whether crucial o playoffs o katuwaan lang. Depende rin of course sa kakayahan ng team o company na gumastos.

ironcoach
03-12-2013, 10:46 PM
Coach, I just wanted to know what the pay scale was like in the PBL...."I did not know for instance that JR Quinahan made P35,000 a month...."

You, nor anyone outside the team/company, should know about "the real" team salaries in the first place. This is what we termed
"CLASSIFIED INFORMATION".

Do you sincerely believe that lahat ng PBA player walang kumikita ng higit pa sa nakasaad na
maximum allowed? That not a single PBA player is making more than P420,000/month?? Yung sa kanila, yun pa ang nakalagay sa
mga sina-submit nilang UPC (Uniform Players Contract) sa PBA.

But yung naka-ugalian na dito sa atin, kung sariling pera mo naman ang ginagastos mo, who's to question you? Kung mas malaki
ang sustento mo sa kabit o mistress mo kaysa allowance ng misis o original wife mo...discretion mo yon.

ironcoach
03-12-2013, 11:53 PM
You, nor anyone outside the team/company, should know about "the real" team salaries in the first place.


This should read..."should NOT know about".

Sam Miguel
03-13-2013, 08:48 AM
Coach, what made JR Quinahan at that time worth the maximum salary? Was that his MVP conference in the PBL?

LION
03-13-2013, 09:58 AM
^ Methinks it has something to do with socialism. To each according to his needs. JR needs…………..more rice. :p

ironcoach
03-13-2013, 11:21 AM
Coach, what made JR Quinahan at that time worth the maximum salary? Was that his MVP conference in the PBL?

He was already making the max with his former team, Granny Goose, kaya nung na-draft namin siya 2nd overall dun sa Dispersal (Granny Goose & Montana Pawnshop disbanded the previous conference-Cebuana Lhullier nabbed Ken Bono with the 1st pick), yun narin ang binigay namin. After all, siya naman yung cornerstone namin that conference at na-rewardan naman kami ng 2nd
Runner-Up finish in his very first conference with us. Sulit.

Hindi yata siya yung nag-MVP nun pero im sure part siya ng Mythical 5.

ironcoach
03-13-2013, 11:26 AM
Coach, what made JR Quinahan at that time worth the maximum salary? Was that his MVP conference in the PBL?

Eh kung si Paul Lee inofferan ko nga ng 120k/month huwag lang muna magpa-draft sa PBA and to finish out his collegiate eligibility in 2011. Kaso hindi na ako ni-renew ng school na yon that year kaya yun na yung hinihinging sign ni Paul mula sa Itaas kung magp-pro na ba siya. 150k/month kasi ang rookie max sa PBA kaya inilapit ko lang dun ang offer ko para hindi naman masyadong agrabyado si Paul assuming nga he stays. Kaso hindi na nga umabot dun.

Big Ticket
03-14-2013, 07:10 PM
Congrats coach on your first win of the conference...galing ni Roider Cabrera ah..28 pts...

ironcoach
03-15-2013, 02:35 AM
Congrats coach on your first win of the conference...galing ni Roider Cabrera ah..28 pts...

Naka-chamba. Nasa bingid na nga kami nun. Down by 9 or 10 with less than 5 mins. left. Good thing Roider & a couple of my other players finally hit their stride in the home-stretch and was able to force overtime. And in overtime, i thought our opponents simply got disheartened & dismayed that it enabled us to close it out.

Informatics is 1 tough cookie with Jeric Teng, Nate Matute, Moncrief Rogado, Jam Cortes, Mark Benitez & Chris Camus leading the charge. We really just got lucky and birthday boy Roider played the role of the assasin to the hilt.

By the way, the replay of that game will be aired tomorrow night at 9:30pm right after the PBA Games on AKTV.

Big Ticket
03-15-2013, 09:56 AM
Do you think roider can make it to the PBA? He's a 6'5 shooter...parang allan salangsang...

ironcoach
03-15-2013, 11:05 AM
Do you think roider can make it to the PBA? He's a 6'5 shooter...parang allan salangsang...

Roider is actually 6'4. His height & outside sniping will be his "puhunan" to make it to the PBA. I wouldn't compare Roider to Salangsang coz Allan is more of a "4" while si Roider talagang tres ang laro. Allan would have a harder timechasing down wingmen on defense while Roider doesn't have the body frame to bang bodies inside the paint.

Nakasama ko si Allan sa SEA Games RP Mens basketball team in 2007 so more or less basa ko na ang laro niya.

Trivia: I drafted Allan on either the 6th or 7th round in the PBA 2001 Rookie Draft for Tanduay. Coach Derrick Pumaren took care of our 2 picks (wala kaming 1st round pick/s nun), Oliver Agapito with the 11th pick & Ricky Calimag with the 15th pick tapos he allowed me to dabble with the remaining picks. Hindi naman kasi obligado papirmahin ng kontrata porke ba't na-draft. Pero the guys i that i drafted, nung time palang marunong narin tayo kumilatis kahit papano. :)

I drafted the likes of si Allan Salangsang nga (21yrs old palang yata siya nun), TOPEX ROBINSON, Maoi Roca(DLSU), Dominic Uy, David Friedhoff and Fil-Australian point guard named Charles De Jesus. Yun lang nga hindi type ni Manong lahat at sina Agapito at Calimag lang ang mga naka-pirma at eventually, na line-up with Tanduay.

Topex and i would still joke about it till now everytime we would bump into each other. :)

bchoter
03-15-2013, 11:21 AM
Coach, if you don't mind me asking, what was the NLEX team manager so mad about that he even posted something he later regreted on facebook?

yungha
03-15-2013, 11:38 AM
Coach, wala ba talagang dugong pinoy si davonn harp?

ironcoach
03-15-2013, 02:34 PM
Coach, if you don't mind me asking, what was the NLEX team manager so mad about that he even posted something he later regreted on facebook?

Hindi ako pala-Facebook sir eh. Ano ba sabi? Ang nai-kwento sakin yung mga hinaing/pasaring/patutsada sa Facebook ng team owner ng Big Chill. Last conference pa nga daw nag-umpisa yan eh. Pati talaga team manager ng NLEX?? Bakit?? Kulang pa siguro yung 4
championships in 4 conferences. Ang gusto siguro pati yung mga 2nd place trophies sa kanila narin. :)

ironcoach
03-15-2013, 04:16 PM
Coach, wala ba talagang dugong pinoy si davonn harp?

Siguro wala. Kundi bakit na-deport or tinanggal sa liga? Bakit hindi siya umapela o ipinaglaban man lang niya ang kanyang karapatan, katarungan at katotohanan? Pero ang magandang tanong: bakit hindi na at wala ng naging issue o humabol o kumwestiyon o umaksyon dun sa 2 championships na ipinanalo ng Red Bull with Davonn Harp in their line-up? Ganun nalang yon? How bout the league's integrity & legitimacy? Ok na ba to just sweep that issue under the rug?

Buti pa sa UAAP ipinasauli sa DLSU (or kusang isinoli) yung trophy that they won(2004) while utilizing ineligible players Benitez & Gatchalian.

Nasan na kaya yung 2 trophies ng Red Bull na yon? San kaya naka-display ngayon yon? :)

bchoter
03-15-2013, 04:31 PM
Coach, may kasamang edited na mura (blanked out yung ilang latters) at may pasaing sa kasarian nung kaaway hehe

Big Ticket
03-15-2013, 05:02 PM
Coach, may kasamang edited na mura (blanked out yung ilang latters) at may pasaing sa kasarian nung kaaway hehe

Tungkol ba kay ian sangalang yun?

ironcoach
03-15-2013, 06:28 PM
Coach, may kasamang edited na mura (blanked out yung ilang latters) at may pasaing sa kasarian nung kaaway hehe

Yang indibidwal na yan ba'y tumutugon sa pangalang Ronald Dulatre? Yan ba ang Facebook friend mo? :) dahil si boss Ronald ang alam kong tumatayong team manager ng NLEX at isang senior manager sa Treasury Finance department ng kumpanya. At dahil dito ay mahirap paniwalaan na magre-resort eto sa ganitong kababang-uri ng pakikipag-tirahan ng dahil lang sa basketball o sa isang basketball issue lamang.

ironcoach
03-15-2013, 06:33 PM
Tungkol ba kay ian sangalang yun?

Hindi siguro. Sino ba naman ang magkaka-lakas ng loob tirahin o pasaringan ang team na karibal nila ngayon sa puso at loyalty ni Ian Sangalang? Not unless he doesn't know any better. :)

ironcoach
03-17-2013, 07:41 PM
Coach, if you don't mind me asking, what was the NLEX team manager so mad about that he even posted something he later regreted on facebook?

I was shown a picture(taken thru a cellphone) of the angry Facebook comment of Mr. Ronald Dulatre (i can't believe you stooped thatlow, sir) and its pretty much aimed at Big Chill team owner James Tiu's (isa ka pa, boss) tirades against NLEX's supposedly "pandaraya". The fangs and venom nga naman that a person spews thru social networking. Hindi nalang pambata yung ganyang mga bangayan ngayon. Pati mga respected company executives at mga billionaire eh nagla-ladlad narin sa ganitong uring ka-cheapan. Yuck! :)

bchoter
03-19-2013, 05:35 AM
Coach, mukhang humingi na ng paumanhin si Mr. Dulatre sa kanyang choice of words.

Maiba naman coach. Mejo tranding ngayon si Soc and his travails. Would you take a flyer on a player like him? Kahit practice player lang muna?

ironcoach
03-19-2013, 11:26 AM
Surprises, surprises, surprises!!! Parang yan ang tema ngayon (so far) sa Foundation Cup ng 2013 PBA D-League. Big Chill's upset of perennial champion NLEX, then Big Chill being ambushed by unheralded (hindi na sila unheralded all of a sudden) newcomer Hog's Breath Razorback. Another newcomer Jumbo Giants losing by 20+ points in their initial D-League outing then bouncing back with a 20+ point win of their own in only their 2nd game.

Fruitas Shakers' gutsy fightback from a 22-point hole to nip Cebuana Lhuillier, Blackwater's improbable escape act (coming back from down 7pts with 1:19 left in regulation) over Cagayan Valley in OT, and of course, kami rin may ambag dito: Boracay Rum overcame a 10 point deficit with 4mins left in regulation and stole a win over the Informatics Icons also in OT.

All of these after only 3 playdates. Kaya ano pa ang hinihintay niyo?? Download na a copy ng PBA D-League sked and troop to the venues. The games are mostly staged sa San Juan Arena, Ynares Center-Shaw, Jesus Christ Saves Gospel Gym (JCSGO GYM) 15th Ave. Cubao (mga 3 blocks from Aurora Blvd.) and Blue Eagles Gym-Loyola Heights. On TV, nasa AKTV (ch.13 sa local, ch.15 sa cable) ito ipinapalabas (on delayed basis) gabi-gabi, mula TUESDAY-FRIDAY at 9:30PM (right after the PBA games tuwing Wednesdays at Fridays).

Ibang flavor, ibang sangkap, ibang sahog, ibang appetizer, ibang pang-himagas, ibang putahe, ibang lasa, ibang tama...pero BASKETBALL parin. Yan ang PBA D-League...Ang Bayan Ng Mga Pogi! :) Awww!!!!

ironcoach
03-19-2013, 11:36 AM
Coach, mukhang humingi na ng paumanhin si Mr. Dulatre sa kanyang choice of words.

Maiba naman coach. Mejo tranding ngayon si Soc and his travails. Would you take a flyer on a player like him? Kahit practice player lang muna?

Forgivable naman yang action ni boss Ronald. He's only human after all. Yun nga lang a person of his stature, he should've thought
twice before rolling that dice, so to speak. Pero pwede narin niya siguro i-diin yan sa secretary niya o kung sino man ang gumagawa ng kanyang mga speeches, na may access yun sa Facebook account niya and that he was just taken out of context. :)

Soc who? Rivera?? Why? Ano ba ang latest with this fellow aside from the fact na nasa Arellano U na siya?

bchoter
03-19-2013, 11:55 AM
Hahaha coach mukhang masyado kang busy sa team mo! The soc article (can be found in the UP/ADMU/FEU/UST threads) is the latest buzz in the sports world and has even crossed to main stream media. You can read here:

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CEAQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gmanetwork.com%2Fnews%2Fstory %2F299616%2Fsports%2Fcampussports%2Fuaap-searching-for-soc-rivera&ei=X-NHUdHoMNXH4APfmYDYBQ&usg=AFQjCNENN2lpYF0itU0x3E2gSiWrPjAOvQ&bvm=bv.43828540,d.dmg

Di bale, coach, may "latest" ka naman pala about Soc, that he's already in Arellano and he hasn't given up on his basketball career

ironcoach
03-19-2013, 12:03 PM
Hahaha coach mukhang masyado kang busy sa team mo! The soc article (can be found in the UP/ADMU/FEU/UST threads) is the latest buzz in the sports world and has even crossed to main stream media. You can read here:

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CEAQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gmanetwork.com%2Fnews%2Fstory %2F299616%2Fsports%2Fcampussports%2Fuaap-searching-for-soc-rivera&ei=X-NHUdHoMNXH4APfmYDYBQ&usg=AFQjCNENN2lpYF0itU0x3E2gSiWrPjAOvQ&bvm=bv.43828540,d.dmg

Di bale, coach, may "latest" ka naman pala about Soc, that he's already in Arellano and he hasn't given up on his basketball career

Wait! Mali ata ako. Yung nasa Arellano U na tinutukoy/iniisip ko eh si Keith Agovida yata. That means...could it mean that Soc Rivera is out of basketball na (aside from leisure/sideline)?? If you look at the dates/time, parang ganun na nga.

bchoter
03-19-2013, 12:07 PM
Baka si Keith Agovida nga ang tinutukoy mo coach, kasi I'm sure nasa Arellano HS pa rin siya

ironcoach
03-19-2013, 12:44 PM
I read na yung article about Soc Rivera. My gut feel tells me na hindi 100% truth yung mga isinawalat niya sa interview niya. Nakaka-awa? Yes. Nakakapang-hinayang? Of course. Pero he doesn't have a monopoly sa mga basketball sad stories. Buti pa nga siya he had so many chances. Yung away among his EAC teamates tapos kahit na hindi siya involved eh na-kickout din siya?? Yung issue nina Ryan Buenafe at Art Dela Cruz nga forgotten na eh. As if it didn't even happen at all. At Ateneo pa man din ang sumalo ng impact ng iskandalong yon.

Maybe hindi lang talaga destiny ni Soc yan. And yung unsolicited advise pa niya kay Pingoy...kung pumalpak din ba ang future ni Pingoy sa FEU, sasagutin ba siya ni Soc??? Hayaan niya yung ibang tao mag-decide for themselves what they think is best for them. At sa well-meaning advise ni Soc...could be a case of "right words from the wrong mouth". Why won't he try his luck sa D-League? Bakit hindi siya mag-tryout sa mga teams na nagpapa-tryout? Gusto yata niya yung may guaranteed offer/playing time/salary. O di kaya yung susunduin pa siya sa Pampanga.

Joescoundrel
03-19-2013, 03:47 PM
^ Coach, isa pang dahilan 'yan bakit ayokong may manager ang gma ganyan kababatang players. Alalang-alala ko na nasa FEU FERN pa lang siya may manager na si Soc. Obviously hindi kapakanan ni Soc ang hinabol nung gunggong na 'yon. At kung mali man ang alaala ko at wala palang manager si Soc, akuhin na ni Soc na siya ang sumira sa sarili niyang buhay sa mga desisiyon na siya din ang nagpasya. Personally I hope Jerie Pingoy takes Soc's advice and just stays in FEU. Pingoy really isn't worth this kind of trouble.

Big Ticket
03-19-2013, 06:25 PM
Jeff viernes naman ngayon ang bumida....every game, different player ang nagdadala...that makes your team difficult to scout and beat this conf...

ironcoach
03-19-2013, 11:01 PM
^ Coach, isa pang dahilan 'yan bakit ayokong may manager ang gma ganyan kababatang players. Alalang-alala ko na nasa FEU FERN pa lang siya may manager na si Soc. Obviously hindi kapakanan ni Soc ang hinabol nung gunggong na 'yon. At kung mali man ang alaala ko at wala palang manager si Soc, akuhin na ni Soc na siya ang sumira sa sarili niyang buhay sa mga desisiyon na siya din ang nagpasya. Personally I hope Jerie Pingoy takes Soc's advice and just stays in FEU. Pingoy really isn't worth this kind of trouble.

And why should Pingoy heed Soc's advice?? I personally believe that Soc couldn't have been, or never will be, i should say, one of the better adviser ever. What does he know about making decisions? Its enough that he encountered, and hopefully learns from all the
poor the judgement he had made. Huwag na niyang idamay ang isang high school blue-chip na na napapanahon na in-demand sa
ngayon.

If Pingoy had the good fortune of getting an offer from the Ateneo...i say grab it. The Ateneo provides tutorials to their athletes to aid/guide them academically. Kung sakaling hindi palarin si Pingoy na marating ang PBA down the road, it wouldn't hurt if he will armhimself with a degree/diploma from the Ateneo. Just go ask 9.9 out of 10 fathers or mothers out there.

Blue Eagle Isaac Lim is a son of a former high school classmate/teamate of mine and tuwing magkikita kami, i always mention how lucky/fortunate they are, notwithstanding his son's basketball future. Isaac is around 5'5 or 5'6. What more can they ask for? NormanBlack had just played Santa Claus to them. Siguraduhin lang na the kid doesn't pull off anything stupid for the Ateneo to withdraw his scholarship.

I've witnessed how the former college that i used to be affiliated with, take away the athletic scholarships of recruits kapag hindi na
sila kailangan. I saw with my own eyes how some unwanted players would be waiting under the sun for taxi cabs outside our dorm, that would take them to the airport to board a plane bound for provinces that they came from, and taking home with them their hastily packed luggages together with their shattered dreams.

I say let the future (PBA or ABL or Gilas or wherever) take care of itself. Whats important is that Pingoy takes care of NOW muna.

ironcoach
03-19-2013, 11:15 PM
Jeff viernes naman ngayon ang bumida....every game, different player ang nagdadala...that makes your team difficult to scout and beat this conf...

Sshhhh!!! Baka ma-usog. :) Naka-chamba at nagkataon lang. Kung ako nga mismo hindi ko rin ma-scout ang sariling mga players ko. :) Laban-Tiis-Pursigi-Kayod-Dasal lang kami. Difficult to beat? My team?? You really think so? Hmm...

Let me enjoy this na muna. It hadn't been this good in a while.

Big Ticket
03-20-2013, 07:28 AM
Sshhhh!!! Baka ma-usog. :) Naka-chamba at nagkataon lang. Kung ako nga mismo hindi ko rin ma-scout ang sariling mga players ko. :) Laban-Tiis-Pursigi-Kayod-Dasal lang kami. Difficult to beat? My team?? You really think so? Hmm...

Let me enjoy this na muna. It hadn't been this good in a while.

7 wins out of your last 9 games counting last conf.... :)

jmikery
03-20-2013, 09:16 AM
And why should Pingoy heed Soc's advice?? I personally believe that Soc couldn't have been, or never will be, i should say, one of the better adviser ever. What does he know about making decisions? Its enough that he encountered, and hopefully learns from all the
poor the judgement he had made. Huwag na niyang idamay ang isang high school blue-chip na na napapanahon na in-demand sa
ngayon.

If Pingoy had the good fortune of getting an offer from the Ateneo...i say grab it. The Ateneo provides tutorials to their athletes to aid/guide them academically. Kung sakaling hindi palarin si Pingoy na marating ang PBA down the road, it wouldn't hurt if he will armhimself with a degree/diploma from the Ateneo. Just go ask 9.9 out of 10 fathers or mothers out there.

Blue Eagle Isaac Lim is a son of a former high school classmate/teamate of mine and tuwing magkikita kami, i always mention how lucky/fortunate they are, notwithstanding his son's basketball future. Isaac is around 5'5 or 5'6. What more can they ask for? NormanBlack had just played Santa Claus to them. Siguraduhin lang na the kid doesn't pull off anything stupid for the Ateneo to withdraw his scholarship.

I've witnessed how the former college that i used to be affiliated with, take away the athletic scholarships of recruits kapag hindi na
sila kailangan. I saw with my own eyes how some unwanted players would be waiting under the sun for taxi cabs outside our dorm, that would take them to the airport to board a plane bound for provinces that they came from, and taking home with them their hastily packed luggages together with their shattered dreams.

I say let the future (PBA or ABL or Gilas or wherever) take care of itself. Whats important is that Pingoy takes care of NOW muna.

Exactly coach, bakit nga magsstay si Pinggoy sa FEU kung may history sila of dumping their players when the going gets tough? Diba nga dinisband yung isang FEU team na hindi nakapasok ng Final 4 (sila Benedict Fernandez ata) and nagkaroon lang ng bad game si Barroca vs your UE team, benta na raw agad. Recently, si Bringas tinanggal sa team.

Kapag ganyan and ikaw si Pinggoy, na kung tutuusin, hindi surefire college superstar, mas gugustuhin mo bang makipaglaban kay RR and Romeo sa isang system kung saan nag stagnate ang development nila at pwede ka itapon ng biglaan ng team management o pupunta ka ba sa Ateneo kung saan last year na ni Tiongson sa system kung saan nagawang contributors sa college mga katulad ni Jai Reyes, Monfort, and Tiongson despite the lack of height at may history ng pag aalaga sa players even after their college careers?

ironcoach
03-20-2013, 10:15 AM
7 wins out of your last 9 games counting last conf.... :)

6 out of the last 8 lang. Eto na yata yung nagiging trademark (bad habit) ko dating back to the 2009 UAAP Season. I had to go 4-4 muna, endure mga panlalait/galit ng community/fans, then go on to win 9 out of the next 11 games. Nung 2010 naman, nag 1-6 na muna ako bago nanalo ng 5 out of 7.

In my opinion, and assuming na kilalang-kilala ko na ang sarili ko by now, yung eccentricity and pagiging very emotional kong tao eh nagkakaroon ng effect sa performance ko that eventually translates into how my team/players perform. Diba parang yung singer daw kapag dama niya talaga yung kinakanta niya, nararamdaman yon ng audience niya? Maybe ganon din sa pag-coach ng basketball.
If you're not in the mood or if your heart isn't 100% in it, it will show. You can't fake it either. Its either you have it or you don't...
yung knowledge, wisdom, yung feel, yung charisma, yung puso.

It needs a lot of TLC.

ironcoach
03-20-2013, 10:30 AM
Exactly coach, bakit nga magsstay si Pinggoy sa FEU kung may history sila of dumping their players when the going gets tough? Diba nga dinisband yung isang FEU team na hindi nakapasok ng Final 4 (sila Benedict Fernandez ata) and nagkaroon lang ng bad game si Barroca vs your UE team, benta na raw agad. Recently, si Bringas tinanggal sa team.

Kapag ganyan and ikaw si Pinggoy, na kung tutuusin, hindi surefire college superstar, mas gugustuhin mo bang makipaglaban kay RR and Romeo sa isang system kung saan nag stagnate ang development nila at pwede ka itapon ng biglaan ng team management o pupunt
a ka ba sa Ateneo kung saan last year na ni Tiongson sa system kung saan nagawang contributors sa college mga katulad ni Jai Reyes, Monfort, and Tiongson despite the lack of height at may history ng pag aalaga sa players even after their college careers?

Maganda at interesting na project siguro yung mai-track down yung mga UAAP basketball players, kahit na yung mga naglaro lang from 2006-2010 (at hindi na naglalaro now-so disregard na yung mga nasa PBA, ABL & D-League). Just find out how they are, their current status, their current occupations or simply whats keeping them busy.

Locate mga 10 players lang muna from each UAAP schools (that would make 80 players in one reading) tapos mga 5 issues. Overall, 50 players from each UAAP schools ang mababasa natin. Their travails, experiences, successes & failures. Their lives after UAAP basketball.
Sounds interesting??? Well...mga writers, segment producers, magazine editors, sports reporters, Jessica Soho or Vicky Morales?? :)

Yung mga iniidolo at tini-tilian ng mga estudyante at alumni nila kelan lang. Yung mga alagang-alaga ng mga schools at team supporter
s. Yung mga bida noon...paano na sila ngayon.

ironcoach
03-20-2013, 10:33 AM
Exactly coach, bakit nga magsstay si Pinggoy sa FEU kung may history sila of dumping their players when the going gets tough? Diba nga dinisband yung isang FEU team na hindi nakapasok ng Final 4 (sila Benedict Fernandez ata) and nagkaroon lang ng bad game si Barroca vs your UE team, benta na raw agad. Recently, si Bringas tinanggal sa team.

Kapag ganyan and ikaw si Pinggoy, na kung tutuusin, hindi surefire college superstar, mas gugustuhin mo bang makipaglaban kay RR and Romeo sa isang system kung saan nag stagnate ang development nila at pwede ka itapon ng biglaan ng team management o pupunt
a ka ba sa Ateneo kung saan last year na ni Tiongson sa system kung saan nagawang contributors sa college mga katulad ni Jai Reyes, Monfort, and Tiongson despite the lack of height at may history ng pag aalaga sa players even after their college careers?


Maganda at interesting na project siguro yung mai-track down yung mga UAAP basketball players, kahit na yung mga naglaro lang from 2006-2010 (at hindi na naglalaro now-so disregard na yung mga nasa PBA, ABL & D-League). Just find out how they are, their current status, their current occupations or simply whats keeping them busy.

Locate mga 10 players lang muna from each UAAP schools (that would make 80 players in one reading) tapos mga 5 issues. Overall, 50 players from each UAAP schools ang mababasa natin. Their travails, experiences, successes & failures. Their lives after UAAP basketball.
Sounds interesting??? Well...mga writers, segment producers, magazine editors, sports reporters, Jessica Soho or Vicky Morales?? :)

Yung mga iniidolo at tini-tilian ng mga estudyante at alumni nila kelan lang. Yung mga alagang-alaga ng mga schools at team supporter
s. Yung mga bida noon...paano na sila ngayon.

jmikery
03-20-2013, 12:27 PM
Maganda at interesting na project siguro yung mai-track down yung mga UAAP basketball players, kahit na yung mga naglaro lang from 2006-2010 (at hindi na naglalaro now-so disregard na yung mga nasa PBA, ABL & D-League). Just find out how they are, their current status, their current occupations or simply whats keeping them busy.

Locate mga 10 players lang muna from each UAAP schools (that would make 80 players in one reading) tapos mga 5 issues. Overall, 50 players from each UAAP schools ang mababasa natin. Their travails, experiences, successes & failures. Their lives after UAAP basketball.
Sounds interesting??? Well...mga writers, segment producers, magazine editors, sports reporters, Jessica Soho or Vicky Morales?? :)

Yung mga iniidolo at tini-tilian ng mga estudyante at alumni nila kelan lang. Yung mga alagang-alaga ng mga schools at team supporter
s. Yung mga bida noon...paano na sila ngayon.

Ayos nga yan coach. Personally, marami akong naeencounter sa mga interbank league na mga ex UAAP/NCAA player. Si Kish Co of La Salle plays for Allied Bank, Michael Luy of NU plays for Eastwest Bank, one of the Benilde players who was removed for being linked to gambling also plays for Allied. Tapos in our treasury department, I encounter former Ateneo big man Martin Quimson in some trading transactions with his bank.

ironcoach
03-20-2013, 01:11 PM
Ayos nga yan coach. Personally, marami akong naeencounter sa mga interbank league na mga ex UAAP/NCAA player. Si Kish Co of La Salle plays for Allied Bank, Michael Luy of NU plays for Eastwest Bank, one of the Benilde players who was removed for being linked to gambling also plays for Allied. Tapos in our treasury department, I encounter former Ateneo big man Martin Quimson in some trading transactions with his bank.

Correction lang sir. Kish Co isn't with the Allied Bank Basketball Team. The Benilde player you mentioned (i supposed you were referring to Paolo Orbeta) isn't connected with Allied Bank either. The former Benilde player thats with Allied Bank is Kris Robles and never naman ako nakarinig o may nabasa about him being involved with anything illegal. Unless, may alam ka na i don't. I shoild know coz im the team consultant of the Allied Bank basketball team. Head coach ako nila from 2004-2008 then yung assistant ko na ang pina-take over ko at nag-team consultant nalang ako when my sked couldn't accomodate na anymore.

Going back sa mga former collegiate players na nagwo-work na sa mga bangko, financial institutions or any company, thats very good. Goes to show na napapakinabangan nila yung degree na nakuha nila nung student/athlete pa sila.

Marami ngang umabot na ng PBA, hindi tumagal, hindi naka-ipon, worst off pa as compared sa mga hindi nakapag-PBA pero got stable jobs. Mag inquire ka sa Maynilad-Balara branch and you'll find out kung sinu-sino mga ex-collegiate players working there. May company basketball team din sila so nag-eensayo rin sila at nagpapa-kondisyon although leisurely. The likes of PJ Barua, JR Taganas, etc.

BTW, Maynilad is also owned by MVP.

jmikery
03-20-2013, 01:20 PM
Correction lang sir. Kish Co isn't with the Allied Bank Basketball Team. The Benilde player you mentioned (i supposed you were referring to Paolo Orbeta) isn't connected with Allied Bank either. The former Benilde player thats with Allied Bank is Kris Robles and never naman ako nakarinig o may nabasa about him being involved with anything illegal. Unless, may alam ka na i don't. I shoild know coz im the team consultant of the Allied Bank basketball team. Head coach ako nila from 2004-2008 then yung assistant ko na ang pina-take over ko at nag-team consultant nalang ako when my sked couldn't accomodate na anymore.

Going back sa mga former collegiate players na nagwo-work na sa mga bangko, financial institutions or any company, thats very good. Goes to show na napapakinabangan nila yung degree na nakuha nila nung student/athlete pa sila.

Marami ngang umabot na ng PBA, hindi tumagal, hindi naka-ipon, worst off pa as compared sa mga hindi nakapag-PBA pero got stable jobs. Mag inquire ka sa Maynilad-Balara branch and you'll find out kung sinu-sino mga ex-collegiate players working there. May company basketball team din sila so nag-eensayo rin sila at nagpapa-kondisyon although leisurely. The likes of PJ Barua, JR Taganas, etc.

BTW, Maynilad is also owned by MVP.

Oh sorry coach, medyo hazy na rin pagkaalala ko. Kaya pala malakas Allied sa interbank nandun kayo. One good thing about those ex players though is kahit papano, natutulungan rin sila ng UAAP/NCAA experience nila even if they aren't actively pursing an athletic career. I'm sure that companies participating in leagues see that as a bonus qualification when choosing employees (not to say that they're preferred over more qualified candidates, just that they're chosen among equally qualified candidates because they also bring athletics to the table)

ironcoach
03-20-2013, 03:45 PM
Oh sorry coach, medyo hazy na rin pagkaalala ko. Kaya pala malakas Allied sa interbank nandun kayo. One good thing about those ex players though is kahit papano, natutulungan rin sila ng UAAP/NCAA experience nila even if they aren't actively pursing an athletic career. I'm sure that companies participating in leagues see that as a bonus qualification when choosing employees (not to say that they're preferred over more qualified candidates, just that they're chosen among equally qualified candidates because they also bring athletics to the table)

Correct sir. And what more kung diploma ng Ateneo or DLSU, or maybe UP and UST ang hawak mo? Kahit na talikuran/maglaho man ang mga puma-padrino at umaalalay sayo dati, you can somehow make it on your own without padrino/pakiusap/palakasan. Lets face it. Yan na ang umiiral sa society/corporate world natin ngayon.

sidestep
03-20-2013, 07:22 PM
coach anong masasabi mo sa pag pullout ni Sangalang para maglaro sa team ni Mayor Pineda sa D-League? unconditional release yung ginawa considering live contract yun. looks like the MVP group is kowtowing to him after all.

eto po yung article coach

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/sangalang-free-to-join-patron-pinedas-team-after-getting-uncondional-nlex-release

ironcoach
03-20-2013, 08:12 PM
coach anong masasabi mo sa pag pullout ni Sangalang para maglaro sa team ni Mayor Pineda sa D-League? unconditional release yung ginawa considering live contract yun. looks like the MVP group is kowtowing to him after all.

eto po yung article coach

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/sangalang-free-to-join-patron-pinedas-team-after-getting-uncondional-nlex-release

Well, mahirap mag-speculate. Was there a buy-out involved? An exchange of favor or agreement? A future trade perhaps (not necessarily basketball-related)?

The only thing clear here is that Sangalang doesn't have credibility by not honoring an agreement (whether verbal, signed or among gentlemen). The supposedly "older & wiser" characters in this episode didn't do a good job teaching this giant kid about character either. This man-child will just forever use the alibi "bata pa ako" or "naguluhan or nalilito ako".

The only reason na i can think of is that if the Pampanga team wants Sangalang to play dor them, it has to be now kasi Sangalang will be entering the PBA Draft na after this D-League conference. And if he stays put pa sa NLEX, mawawalan na ng chance na makapaglaro siya for the Pampanga team. Kaya siguro brinaso na talaga with Sangalang's full cooperation. To hell with a contract ika nga.

But i also feel no pity nor envy towards NLEX kasi brinaso rin naman nila yung first 4 conferences ng D-League eh. Wala akong proof sa mga "over the players' salary cap payoffs" nila kaya hindi ko na pag-aaksayahan ng panahon na patunayan pa yan. Pero yung nakapaglaro si Kirk Long, na purong Kano, sa kanila, tapos yung mga Fil-Ams pahirapan pang makakuha ng Immigration Clearance, eh
todo-todong brasuhan na yan.

Do you think within the D-League team participants, aside from Big Chill :), are there teams that are losing sleep over not being able to beat NLEX, or prevent them from monopolizing PBA D-League titles?? Some of us are even willing to award them the championship trophy na even before the season starts. Sarcastically, of course.

Big Ticket
03-21-2013, 06:33 AM
Biglang liit ang lineup ng NLEX with slaughter & sangalang gone, pati na rin si escoto... Small ball ang magiging laro ng NLEX nyan...

Di pa kinapalan ng team ni pineda ng husto at kinuha na rin sana si ronald pascual hehe...

ironcoach
03-21-2013, 09:12 AM
Biglang liit ang lineup ng NLEX with slaughter & sangalang gone, pati na rin si escoto... Small ball ang magiging laro ng NLEX nyan...

Di pa kinapalan ng team ni pineda ng husto at kinuha na rin sana si ronald pascual hehe...

As compared to honor? Ipinagpalit lang sa isang silly game. The saddest chapter in this charade is that nobody, especially yung mga supposedly "older & wiser" na mga taong involved dito, even encouraged Sangalang to preserve his honor. He can be the country's best basketball player ever, lahat ng MVP awards hakutin niya, i-maximum plus-plus mo na ang sweldo niya for the next 17-18 years. Pero wala parin siyang Palabra de Honor. A wrong will never ever be right no matter what.

Basketball-wise, of course good news yang humina ng konti ang NLEX. But that is entirely a different story.

Big Ticket
03-21-2013, 05:39 PM
0-2 na ang NLEX...

ironcoach
03-21-2013, 09:02 PM
0-2 na ang NLEX...

Ok rin yan para maranasan din nila yung nararanasan naming ibang mga teams these past 2 years (4 conferences). Pero to think na meron pa silang Baser Amer, Kevin Alas, Borgy Hermida, Byron Villarias, Jake Pascual, Ronald Pascual, Nico Salva, Eric Camson, yung Gilas Fil-Am na si Ganuelas and American reinforcement (bukod tanging sila lang ang may player sa category na yan) Kirk Long.

Kung pangalan sa pangalan lang saan ka pa? Those 2 early losses, either nagse-send lang ng message yan na kesyo naapi sila or nagpapa-dehado lang. Not unless na talagang mahina ang mga braintrust nila at talagang umaasa lang sila sa palakasan ng players all these time.

But as i've said, sana itong nai-experience nila ngayon eh maging eye-opener sa kanila dun sa kapakanan at nararanasan ng kanilang mga tinalo/nakalaban/nilalampaso sa D-League. Kung nagkaroon lang sana ng players' drafting at very strict individual salary cap mula pa nung nag-umpisa ang liga, hindi sana naging ganon ka-boring at ka-predictable yung 1st 2 years ng D-League. Parang tuloy naging inconsequential ang mga previous results.

ironcoach
03-21-2013, 09:35 PM
May Garvo Lanete at RR Garcia pa pala yan. Mahina pa ba yan? Palit kaya kami ng players? Malamang abot-tenga ang ngiti ng mga bossing namin niyan. :)

Big Ticket
03-22-2013, 07:37 AM
Sa mga current players ng NLEX, sino gusto nyong kunin para sa team nyo if you have a chance?

ironcoach
03-22-2013, 08:35 AM
Sa mga current players ng NLEX, sino gusto nyong kunin para sa team nyo if you have a chance?

Lahat. Walang tapon sa team na yan. Tell you what, lets get those 12 NLEX players for now (Slaughter to follow daw after his drama), split them into 2, i-dagdag yung 14 Boracay Rum players ko (split into 2 groups of 7), we can now have 2 very competitive sister teams-D/League style. Ano tanong nalang is if those NLEX Boys will be willing to accept Boracay Rum Team salaries/allowances/incentives. Sa team mini-bus (Coaster) palang ng NLEX baka hindi mahiyang yung mga players namin na sanay mag-jeep o kaya'y mag-G Liner papunta ng games.

bchoter
03-22-2013, 08:46 AM
^ Pag ang college team eh walang ni isang NLEX player, alam mo na ang kalidad :D

ironcoach
03-22-2013, 09:30 AM
^ Pag ang college team eh walang ni isang NLEX player, alam mo na ang kalidad :D

Dyan ka nagkakamali sir. Merong mga suplado-schools like DLSU and NU (UE?) na "can afford" na huwag payagan ang kanilang mga investments, este, players na maglaro commercially since "we can match or surpass" yung mga offers ng ibang mga teams dyan. But then, meron din, im sure, na dinaan sa takutan lang. :)

Si Glenn Khobuntin ng NU is an example. We've signed him to a 2-year pact last September 2011(will last till August 2013)but he hasn't been with us since last November. After playing a few games for us last conference, he came up to me one day and told me that their team manager at NU had asked him to secure his release from his obligations with us. Glenn admitted that he really wanted to play for me rather than NU since he really hasn't gotten the playing time there the past 3 seasons while in my team, he's one of our go-to guys.

But then, yung utang na loob factor crept in. The help he got from NU management thru the years, from housing for his family in CdO when their old home got washed away by flood, to his mom's hospitalization & medical needs, to a sister's scholarship grants...we can't win. Although same thing with Sangalang, walang nagturo o nag-advice sa mga batang ito to honor a contract. Bagkus eh ang itinuturo is on how to wiggle out of it.

Somehow i was touched by Glenn's situation, so young pero marunong na tumanaw ng utang na loob, para huwag na siyang pahirapan pa & make things (life) easier and smoother for him...i decided to let him go (contract or no contract), and simply told him that our doors will always be open for him.

bchoter
03-22-2013, 10:32 AM
Oo nga pala, coach. Nasanay akong tinatanaw ang UP/Adamson/UP... ka level namin :D

ironcoach
03-22-2013, 03:50 PM
Imagine a D-League team composed of Kiefer Ravena, Jeron Teng, Bobby Ray Parks, Roi Sumang, Norbert Torres, LA Revilla, Arnold Van Opstal, Gelo Alolino, Chris Newsome, JP Erram, Juami Tiongson, Yutien Andrada, Almond Vosotross, Troy Rosario & Glenn Khobuntin?

Tumulo ang laway ko dun ah! :)

jmikery
03-22-2013, 09:48 PM
Dyan ka nagkakamali sir. Merong mga suplado-schools like DLSU and NU (UE?) na "can afford" na huwag payagan ang kanilang mga investments, este, players na maglaro commercially since "we can match or surpass" yung mga offers ng ibang mga teams dyan. But then, meron din, im sure, na dinaan sa takutan lang. :)

Si Glenn Khobuntin ng NU is an example. We've signed him to a 2-year pact last September 2011(will last till August 2013)but he hasn't been with us since last November. After playing a few games for us last conference, he came up to me one day and told me that their team manager at NU had asked him to secure his release from his obligations with us. Glenn admitted that he really wanted to play for me rather than NU since he really hasn't gotten the playing time there the past 3 seasons while in my team, he's one of our go-to guys.

But then, yung utang na loob factor crept in. The help he got from NU management thru the years, from housing for his family in CdO when their old home got washed away by flood, to his mom's hospitalization & medical needs, to a sister's scholarship grants...we can't win. Although same thing with Sangalang, walang nagturo o nag-advice sa mga batang ito to honor a contract. Bagkus eh ang itinuturo is on how to wiggle out of it.

Somehow i was touched by Glenn's situation, so young pero marunong na tumanaw ng utang na loob, para huwag na siyang pahirapan pa & make things (life) easier and smoother for him...i decided to let him go (contract or no contract), and simply told him that our doors will always be open for him.

To be fair to Sanggalang coach, mabait yang bata. It was easy to dislike his SSC-R team because of his teammates but he always stood out as one who was cut from a different cloth. Kaya nga lang coach, alam mo naman kapag yung backer niya ang nakausap, mahihirapan ka talagang tanggihan ang gustong gawin

ironcoach
03-22-2013, 10:34 PM
To be fair to Sanggalang coach, mabait yang bata. It was easy to dislike his SSC-R team because of his teammates but he always stood out as one who was cut from a different cloth. Kaya nga lang coach, alam mo naman kapag yung backer niya ang nakausap, mahihirapan ka talagang tanggihan ang gustong gawin

Nau-unawaan at nai-intindihan ko naman ang sitwasyon niya, sir. Kung sa player at sa player rin lang, sino ba naman ang may ayaw mapasama sa MVP Group? Mapa-school teams, professional teams, amateur teams at national teams..deeply involved sila. Yung pag ma-manage nila ng mga basketball teams or sa any other sports thru the decade is very well documented. But as you've said, in this instance, may ibang factor to consider. Kaya nga im more disappointed dun sa mga pwedeng, o may influence to advice him that he should do what is right.

ironcoach
03-22-2013, 11:54 PM
Well, i'll have to add that the "Sangalang Issue" seems like its all water under the bridge already. The direct parties involved, looked
like they've come to a settlement or understanding so "all's well that ends well" there. Its only because we're also participants in the league that they're in kaya semi-affected din ako kahit papaano. Yung caution na pwede ring mangyari sa team ko ang ganung situation.

Pero obviously nagkaayos na sila, wala ring naging problema ang mga pangyayari sa D-League hierarchy so...lets play ball. :)

LION
03-23-2013, 09:21 AM
Actually, NLEX was forced to let Ian Sangalang go. It was a decision they had to make because they didn’t want a player to be placed in that situation. But it’s not definitely a case of “all’s well that ends well”. What the camp of Mayor Pineda did is really foul. We call that tampering of contract. They could be held civilly liable for damages. Pero hindi na lang dinaan sa legal. Laro na lang.

LION
03-23-2013, 09:23 AM
Mayor Pineda could have opted to take the high road and play the good father to Ian. But it seems that the mayor is not really made of good moral fiber. Talagang naningil ng utang na loob ni Ian sa kanya.

ironcoach
03-23-2013, 01:29 PM
Bro, take the cue from the move (giving-in) of the NLEX management nalang. Kung yung MVP Group na nga hindi pumalag...get my
drift?? Kaya nga as i've said...PLAY BALL!!!!

Big Ticket
03-24-2013, 06:32 PM
Coach, binibigyan ba kayo ng PBA/dleague ng rule book before the conference or season starts? Nakakapagtaka lang kase yun ibang mga coaches, sobrang wagas kung makareklamo, di naman nila alam yun rule? Tulad nun goal tending issue raw ni rafi reavis vs barako at yun lane violation issue ng alaska kagabi...

ironcoach
03-24-2013, 10:23 PM
Coach, binibigyan ba kayo ng PBA/dleague ng rule book before the conference or season starts? Nakakapagtaka lang kase yun ibang mga coaches, sobrang wagas kung makareklamo, di naman nila alam yun rule? Tulad nun goal tending issue raw ni rafi reavis vs barako at yun lane violation issue ng alaska kagabi...

Walang binibigay na rulebook pero before every conference starts, laging may coaches meeting with the PBA Technical Head na si Mr. Ramil Cruz. Itong huli nga kasama pa si referee Boy Cruz, na siyang in-charge sa mga D-League refs. Parang Q & A session na ine-exp
lain uli yung mga tawagan at pwede rin magtanong (clarifications) ang mga coaches.

Pero ako dedma na sa mga ganyan. Nung inamin nga ni Boy Cruz sa amin na: kung minsan nata-tanga din raw sila at kung minsan parang feeling nila eh lumiliit daw ang mga utak nila. Ako pa ang dumepensa nung araw na yon sa mga refs dun sa mga maa-angal na kap
wa ko coaches kasi inamin na naman na tanga (kung minsan) sila. Pero nung naging defensive naman si Ka Boy, ako din ang nag
remind sa kanya na huwag siyang mapikon, bagkus eh ma-flattered pa dapat siya. Imagine till now, 2013 na, may nagtiya-tiyaga pang mag-reklamo sa kanila. Ako?? Hindi ko man lang pag-aaksayahan ng panahon at stress ang mga refs natin. USELESS.

Kung mamalas-malasin ka eh may multa pa yan mula sa Commissioner's office. Eh di i-kain o ipang-gimmick ko nalang.

ironcoach
03-24-2013, 11:00 PM
Learning to walk away or to avoid a confrontation with game officials is an art. Nung PBL 2007, hindi ako umangal o umimik sa isang crucial na non-call at isang crucial na tawag against my team. What i did, on instinct, napahiga nalang ako sa sideline. Walang tawag, walang warning at walang technical foul. Very good pagtitimpi na sana on my part. But after 2 days, nakatanggap ako ng love letter mula sa Commissioner's office (hello po kay Commissioner Chino Trinidad). Upon review, pinag-multa ako ng P5,000. Yun na ata ang pinaka-expensive na higa na nagawa ko. Nung humiga ako sa Wilderness, sa Gemini o sa Maalikaya, mahal na yung P3,000. :)

Nung UAAP 2010, down 2 or 3 kami sa Ateneo with mga 20+ seconds to go. Ang instruction ko sa mga alipores eh no fouls at ta-trap lang kami. Pagka-inbound na pagka-inbound ng Ateneo, in less than 1 second, tinawagan agad kami ng foul. Once again, hindi ako umangal, nagwala, nagmura o nanlusob. Ang nagawa ko (on instinct) eh napaluhod ako sa sidelines. Ang kasunod nun: tinechnical ako. 2 free throws ang Ateneo + ball possession. Ayon! Talo kami.

Kaya natuto na ako. Dalawang taon na ang D-League ngayong March 2013 at pang-limang conference na bale itong current conference...believe it or not, ni-minsan hindi pa ako nate-technical. Dalawang magkasunod na conference na kaming painfully hindi nakakapasok ng quarter-finals (the previous one by 4 points sa quotient, itong huli naman by 1 game-we lost to Fruitas in a must-win game after leading by 9 pts nung 3rd qtr) pero ni-lunok, nginuya, minumog ko ang lahat ng mga bad calls.

Make no mistake. Hindi ako Santo. I do go after the refs a lot pero i observe my limit. Tao lang ang mga refs at tao rin lang din ako. I respect my profession kaya dinadamdam ko ang bawat pagkakamali at talo ko. About the refs, its their problem & conscience na if they can still sleep at night everytime they bungle or mess up on their work. Wala akong balak problemahin ang mga problema nila.

LION
03-24-2013, 11:22 PM
Upon review, pinag-multa ako ng P5,000. Yun na ata ang pinaka-expensive na higa na nagawa ko. Nung humiga ako sa Wilderness, sa Gemini o sa Maalikaya, mahal na yung P3,000. :)



Ano yung wilderness, gemini at maalikaya, coach?

LION
03-24-2013, 11:27 PM
Learning to walk away or to avoid a confrontation with game officials is an art. Nung PBL 2007, hindi ako umangal o umimik sa isang crucial na non-call at isang crucial na tawag against my team. What i did, on instinct, napahiga nalang ako sa sideline. Walang tawag, walang warning at walang technical foul. Very good pagtitimpi na sana on my part. But after 2 days, nakatanggap ako ng love letter mula sa Commissioner's office (hello po kay Commissioner Chino Trinidad). Upon review, pinag-multa ako ng P5,000. Yun na ata ang pinaka-expensive na higa na nagawa ko. Nung humiga ako sa Wilderness, sa Gemini o sa Maalikaya, mahal na yung P3,000. :)

Nung UAAP 2010, down 2 or 3 kami sa Ateneo with mga 20+ seconds to go. Ang instruction ko sa mga alipores eh no fouls at ta-trap lang kami. Pagka-inbound na pagka-inbound ng Ateneo, in less than 1 second, tinawagan agad kami ng foul. Once again, hindi ako umangal, nagwala, nagmura o nanlusob. Ang nagawa ko (on instinct) eh napaluhod ako sa sidelines. Ang kasunod nun: tinechnical ako. 2 free throws ang Ateneo + ball possession. Ayon! Talo kami.

Kaya natuto na ako.



Actions speak louder than words daw kasi coach. :)

ironcoach
03-25-2013, 08:48 AM
Ano yung wilderness, gemini at maalikaya, coach?

Ah..kabilang ang mga yan sa mga ibini-bida nating tourist attractions dito sa ating bansa. Or pwede rin dito yung tinatawag na Fireworks Festival (puro putukan at paputok kasi dyan). ITS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES! :)

ironcoach
03-25-2013, 09:15 AM
Actions speak louder than words daw kasi coach. :)

Kaya nga deterrent din yang "heavy fines & penalties". Dyan sumasang-ayon ako. If not, may tendencies talaga for some people to use this as an avenue to vent or express their stress & frustrations, or superiority over their kapwa-tao. Look at coach Trillo for example. Kung hindi lang respeto sa kanya as a basketball head coach or simply as a person, sino ba ang matatakot dyan? Some of the league refs, im sure, could give him a run for his money pagdating sa away o suntukan.

Sa NBA ba may nakikita kang ganyan? Angal, reklamo o manisi, natural lang yan. Pero yung malulutong na mura at yung panunugod, i believe excessive na yan. Just because sa loob ng basketball court o gymnasium or coliseum nangyari all the more doesn't make it right.
Itong mga bahay o lugar ng trabaho o propesyon natin, dapat tratuhing sagrado ang mga yan. Huwag dyan magkalat.

LION
03-25-2013, 09:25 AM
Couldn’t agree with you more. Nawawala na ang magandang asal sa palakasan (sports). The ideals of sports got lost along the way and replaced with trash talking, cursing, dirty plays, spitting, etc. Konti na lang ang talagang masasabi natin na gentlemen in the game of basketball. Part of the blame goes to the public of course. Instead of shunning and condemning such bad behavior, they even reward the bad bos by emulating their uncouth behavior when they themselves are playing the game. Ginagaya ang “swagger” ng mga idol nila.

Kaya ang mga batang manlalaro ngayon, high school pa lang sobrang angas na. Angas na wala sa lugar.

LION
03-25-2013, 09:29 AM
Ah..kabilang ang mga yan sa mga ibini-bida nating tourist attractions dito sa ating bansa. Or pwede rin dito yung tinatawag na Fireworks Festival (puro putukan at paputok kasi dyan). ITS MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES! :)

Akala ko kasi covered basketball court yan, coach.

Shoot muna bago dribble. :p

Meron din 3 point shot, layup at slam dunk. Bawal daw ang mga tapal king dyan. Bawal din ang steals. Bawal din ang mga point guards. Hindi pwede mag pasa pasa.

Pwede mag time out pero pagtatawanan ka. At bawal ka dun coach. Come to think of it, hindi pwede ang coach dun. :p

LION
03-25-2013, 09:38 AM
Now that NLEX has been considerably weakened by the loss of Slaughter and Sangalang, the D-League has become more exciting because no team can now boast of a truly dominant lineup. This is your opportunity coach to reach the finals.

Big Ticket
03-25-2013, 10:17 AM
Overtime galore ang dleague ngayon... Good for the league & the fans...

Sam Miguel
03-25-2013, 11:27 AM
Now that NLEX has been considerably weakened by the loss of Slaughter and Sangalang, the D-League has become more exciting because no team can now boast of a truly dominant lineup. This is your opportunity coach to reach the finals.

Pards, actually I'm still waiting for the DEVELOPMENTAL part of this "developmental" league.

Ilan na bang players talaga ang na-develop nitong liga? For that matter what metrics or any other measurement are they using to determine "development" here? All I see is just a continuation of the old PBL with some slight rule adaptations and of course the absence of any drafting which has created the bullshit NLEX dynasty.

Or maybe mali ang pagkakaunawa ko sa ibig nilang sabihin sa katagang "developmental".

LION
03-25-2013, 12:00 PM
It’s just really a mini PBA, pards. :p

Tanggalin na lang nila yung pretense of “developing” players. Better to be honest and straightforward. Cut the BS. Basta maglaro na lang.

xxiocebu
03-25-2013, 01:32 PM
Dapat dito na lang ang bayaran.

Each UAAP and NCAA team can filed it's own team sponsored by it's patron's company. There will be a max level salary, oops allowance pala. The psuedo-pro team can field up to a max of 8-10 players from it's current students and the rest of the slots (16) are filled by alumni. Wala ng haluan ng players except current and alumni. It can only create a stronger fan base for each team. The guys not good enough to get in the PBA can still get a bball job, without having to suck up to the other teams' owners. We can get to see how Ford Arao can get to play with Bacon and Kiefer.

That way may legitimacy ng kaunti ang spending and anyone actually vioalting the rule can be sanctioned in this league (outside of the UAAP/NCAA). Phiya na lang kung mahuli.

Kawawa na lang yung 11-15th guys on the UAAP team. Hanggang scholarship and food/board/lodging na lang sila.

bchoter
03-25-2013, 01:53 PM
The entry of collegiate squads have further muddled the 'developmental' part of it. Development para kanino? In the NBA, almost all DLeague teams are affiliated with an NBA team which treats the DLeague team as its farm team. A player can be relagated to the DLeague as needed

jmikery
03-25-2013, 02:37 PM
Learning to walk away or to avoid a confrontation with game officials is an art. Nung PBL 2007, hindi ako umangal o umimik sa isang crucial na non-call at isang crucial na tawag against my team. What i did, on instinct, napahiga nalang ako sa sideline. Walang tawag, walang warning at walang technical foul. Very good pagtitimpi na sana on my part. But after 2 days, nakatanggap ako ng love letter mula sa Commissioner's office (hello po kay Commissioner Chino Trinidad). Upon review, pinag-multa ako ng P5,000. Yun na ata ang pinaka-expensive na higa na nagawa ko. Nung humiga ako sa Wilderness, sa Gemini o sa Maalikaya, mahal na yung P3,000. :)

Nung UAAP 2010, down 2 or 3 kami sa Ateneo with mga 20+ seconds to go. Ang instruction ko sa mga alipores eh no fouls at ta-trap lang kami. Pagka-inbound na pagka-inbound ng Ateneo, in less than 1 second, tinawagan agad kami ng foul. Once again, hindi ako umangal, nagwala, nagmura o nanlusob. Ang nagawa ko (on instinct) eh napaluhod ako sa sidelines. Ang kasunod nun: tinechnical ako. 2 free throws ang Ateneo + ball possession. Ayon! Talo kami.

Kaya natuto na ako. Dalawang taon na ang D-League ngayong March 2013 at pang-limang conference na bale itong current conference...believe it or not, ni-minsan hindi pa ako nate-technical. Dalawang magkasunod na conference na kaming painfully hindi nakakapasok ng quarter-finals (the previous one by 4 points sa quotient, itong huli naman by 1 game-we lost to Fruitas in a must-win game after leading by 9 pts nung 3rd qtr) pero ni-lunok, nginuya, minumog ko ang lahat ng mga bad calls.

Make no mistake. Hindi ako Santo. I do go after the refs a lot pero i observe my limit. Tao lang ang mga refs at tao rin lang din ako. I respect my profession kaya dinadamdam ko ang bawat pagkakamali at talo ko. About the refs, its their problem & conscience na if they can still sleep at night everytime they bungle or mess up on their work. Wala akong balak problemahin ang mga problema nila.

Ibig sabihin coach, next time na may call kung saan di ka sang ayon, wag ka na humiga o lumuhod, mag jumping jacks ka na lang!

RedArmyColonel
03-25-2013, 05:04 PM
Yun na ata ang pinaka-expensive na higa na nagawa ko. Nung humiga ako sa Wilderness, sa Gemini o sa Maalikaya, mahal na yung P3,000. :)

Malamang sa ground floor kayo lagi coach. Hehe.

ironcoach
03-25-2013, 05:36 PM
Akala ko kasi covered basketball court yan, coach.

Shoot muna bago dribble. :p

Meron din 3 point shot, layup at slam dunk. Bawal daw ang mga tapal king dyan. Bawal din ang steals. Bawal din ang mga point guards. Hindi pwede mag pasa pasa.

Pwede mag time out pero pagtatawanan ka. At bawal ka dun coach. Come to think of it, hindi pwede ang coach dun. :p

At bakit hindi? Pwedeng-pwede magbigay ng mga instructions doon. Kung go hard ba o hindi, kung fastbreak ba o slow break. Kung go straight to the hole or go behind the back. :)

ironcoach
03-25-2013, 05:41 PM
Now that NLEX has been considerably weakened by the loss of Slaughter and Sangalang, the D-League has become more exciting because no team can now boast of a truly dominant lineup. This is your opportunity coach to reach the finals.

Hindi rin, sir. Sa Big Chill palang nga kanina eh tambak kami. Its back to the drawing board for me.

ironcoach
03-25-2013, 05:49 PM
Pards, actually I'm still waiting for the DEVELOPMENTAL part of this "developmental" league.

Ilan na bang players talaga ang na-develop nitong liga? For that matter what metrics or any other measurement are they using to determine "development" here? All I see is just a continuation of the old PBL with some slight rule adaptations and of course the absence of any drafting which has created the bullshit NLEX dynasty.

Or maybe mali ang pagkakaunawa ko sa ibig nilang sabihin sa katagang "developmental".

PBL 2.0 na nga ito in my opinion. Alex Compton was also allowed to play for Montana Pawnshop dati. And now si Kirk Long pinayagan din.

ironcoach
03-25-2013, 05:52 PM
Malamang sa ground floor kayo lagi coach. Hehe.

Bakit? Sa 2nd floor ka ba suki kaya hindi tayo nagkaka-salubong? :)

pio_valenz
03-25-2013, 06:26 PM
The entry of collegiate squads have further muddled the 'developmental' part of it. Development para kanino? In the NBA, almost all DLeague teams are affiliated with an NBA team which treats the DLeague team as its farm team. A player can be relagated to the DLeague as needed

Eto nga talaga ang original mandate ng D-League: to provide a farm team system for the PBA teams the way NBDL teams are affiliates of NBA teams. Among the original D-League teams, aside from NLEX there were 2-3 other teams that were official affiliates of PBA teams. IIRC, PC Gilmore was connected with the Purefoods franchise while Jr. Powerade was connected with Powerade. Supposedly, PBA teams could send down their players to their D-League affiliates for seasoning and skills honing.

But eventually most PBA teams abandoned the idea, and today only NLEX is an official affiliate, although neither TNT nor Meralco has been actively sending down its players. the last player, to my knowledge, who was sent down to the D-League and eventually made his way back to the PBA was Ogie Menor.

Big Ticket
03-25-2013, 07:59 PM
Hindi rin, sir. Sa Big Chill palang nga kanina eh tambak kami. Its back to the drawing board for me.

Ano nangyari, coach?

Sabagay, all 3 games kanina tambakan...

LION
03-25-2013, 10:14 PM
Malamang sa ground floor kayo lagi coach. Hehe.

Yan ang panahon ng “powder or lotion?”. Di na uso ngayon yan. Iba na ang tanong ngayon. Soft or hard? :p

ironcoach
03-26-2013, 12:55 AM
Ano nangyari, coach?

Sabagay, all 3 games kanina tambakan...

No match talaga. We were outclassed from top to bottom. Although honestly, my boys were kinda lowbatt today. Walang energy, walang puso. We could've at least made a game out of it rather than just bending over and allowing ourselves to get screwed like that. Walang ka-pride pride.

ironcoach
03-26-2013, 01:00 AM
Eto nga talaga ang original mandate ng D-League: to provide a farm team system for the PBA teams the way NBDL teams are affiliates of NBA teams. Among the original D-League teams, aside from NLEX there were 2-3 other teams that were official affiliates of PBA teams. IIRC, PC Gilmore was connected with the Purefoods franchise while Jr. Powerade was connected with Powerade. Supposedly, PBA teams could send down their players to their D-League affiliates for seasoning and skills honing.

But eventually most PBA teams abandoned the idea, and today only NLEX is an official affiliate, although neither TNT nor Meralco has be
en actively sending down its players. the last player, to my knowledge, who was sent down to the D-League and eventually made his way back to the PBA was Ogie Menor.

Laban lang. Just go about the usual for now. In time...everything on this earth will have an evolution. Make sure nalang na
naka-nganga tayo when that time comes para may malunok din tayong grasya.

ironcoach
03-26-2013, 01:25 AM
Yan ang panahon ng “powder or lotion?”. Di na uso ngayon yan. Iba na ang tanong ngayon. Soft or hard? :p

Hindi narin yata ganon ang kalakaran ngayon. Ang tinatanong na raw ngayon eh: "mag-extra ba kayo, sir?" :)

RedArmyColonel
03-26-2013, 11:04 AM
Bakit? Sa 2nd floor ka ba suki kaya hindi tayo nagkaka-salubong? :)

Haha. Hindi ko inabot yun coach. Linggam na ang uso ngayon.

ironcoach
03-26-2013, 12:31 PM
Haha. Hindi ko inabot yun coach. Linggam na ang uso ngayon.

Linggam? Bago yan ah! Ngayon ko lang narinig yan. Pa-share naman.

RedArmyColonel
03-26-2013, 02:55 PM
Linggam? Bago yan ah! Ngayon ko lang narinig yan. Pa-share naman.

PM sent! Haha!

ironcoach
03-26-2013, 05:42 PM
PM sent! Haha!

You've made me a believer. :)

lucasrhys
03-26-2013, 07:22 PM
Ano yung wilderness, gemini at maalikaya, coach? MP's along q.ave! Coach abangan nga kita sa heartbeat Minsan.. :) hahaha

bchoter
03-27-2013, 11:40 AM
Sent you a PM din coach :)

ironcoach
03-27-2013, 05:10 PM
MP's along q.ave! Coach abangan nga kita sa heartbeat Minsan.. :) hahaha

Palabiro lang talaga ako, sir. I honestly don't grace these places with my presence anymore. Maalikaya...probably 4-5 times but
mostly nung 80's pa (bata=curiosity). Sa Wilderness(Heartbeat)...maybe thrice but zero in the last 6-7 years. Sa Gemini(Pegasus).....either sumilip lang or sinamahan ang foreign guests from time to time.

Hey! Im no angel make no mistake about that. Tsaka just like most normal guys, pinag-daanan din natin lahat yan. Graduate na ako dyan ika nga. :)

ironcoach
03-30-2013, 07:21 PM
RIP Coach Bobby Parks Sr. My prayers & condolences to Ray-Ray and the Parks family.

Sam Miguel
04-01-2013, 03:01 PM
^^^ Coach do you have a favorite Bobby Parks move, game or moment? Or maybe a Top 3 or Top 5? I loved it when he was an import for Anejo during a one-week "pocket tournament" sometime in 1991 I think it was. It was very ironic watching Parks playing in an Anejo jersey considering the intense rivalry then between Anejo and Parks's mother team Shell.

ironcoach
04-01-2013, 09:34 PM
^^^ Coach do you have a favorite Bobby Parks move, game or moment? Or maybe a Top 3 or Top 5? I loved it when he was an import for Anejo during a one-week "pocket tournament" sometime in 1991 I think it was. It was very ironic watching Parks playing in an Anejo jersey considering the intense rivalry then between Anejo and Parks's mother team Shell.

I couldn't name 1 particular game or moment right now. Im not pretending to be young anymore but those Bobby Parks moments seemed to have happened ages ago already.

What i can vividly recall are the "moves". The slashing to thebasket thru traffic, those deadly pull-up jumpers, and especially the tenacity on defense. Whereas imports during and before his generation were either just focused or were just utilized to pile up the points, Parks clings/hounds his man like Spiderman. On both ends of the court, he goes full-throttle till the final buzzer. After all, he ain't PBA 7-time Best Import for nothing.

I'll have to admit that back in my heydays, im more of a Billy Ray Bates/ Tony Harris fan but then again, na-realized ko rin much later
on that among all the imports, Bobby is in a class all by himself. A team player, a true professional & a fine gentleman.

LION
04-01-2013, 11:14 PM
^ In that class belongs Bobby Parks, Norman Black and Sean Chambers although they were not really my favorite imports because I was then, at a young age, more impressed by the flamboyant high scoring imports like Tony Harris and Billy Ray Bates. It was only when I reached a certain age that I began to appreciate the class acts you mentioned.

LION
04-01-2013, 11:18 PM
Congrats coach for the big win against EA Regen of Mayor Pineda. Ano ba ginawa nyo
nung holy week at mukhang na recharge and mga bata mo. :)

ironcoach
04-01-2013, 11:59 PM
^ In that class belongs Bobby Parks, Norman Black and Sean Chambers although they were not really my favorite imports because I was then, at a young age, more impressed by the flamboyant high scoring imports like Tony Harris and Billy Ray Bates. It was only when I reached a certain age that I began to appreciate the class acts you mentioned.

Pareho pa pala tayo ng mga favorite imports. Some of the imports that caught my fancy were Rob Williams, Andre McCoy, Derrick Brown, Derek Hamilton, Devin Davis, Carlos Briggs, Al Green & Michael Young. None of them nga lang is a "7-time Best Import".

There is only one.

ironcoach
04-02-2013, 12:06 AM
Congrats coach for the big win against EA Regen of Mayor Pineda. Ano ba ginawa nyo
nung holy week at mukhang na recharge and mga bata mo. :)

Nag-bingo kami. :) Biro lang. Well, after our lopsided loss to Big Chill last week (March 25), i gave my boys a break the following day (March 26) then we resumed practice last Wednesday, break again on Maundy Thursday & Good Friday then practiced again on Black Saturday & Easter Sunday. Whatever it was that we did or whatever it was that i told my troop, apparently, it paid off on April Fools Day.

LION
04-02-2013, 08:32 AM
^ Bwahhahahahahahahaha. I’ll take a win regardless of the designation of a day. April Fools or Valentine’s Day, it doesn’t matter, although the last one can be an excuse for a more private post game celebration. :p Cheers!!!

Sam Miguel
04-02-2013, 08:39 AM
Gumagaling talaga si Maclean Sabellina.

Does he have a productive PBA career ahead of him, Coach?

ironcoach
04-02-2013, 09:47 AM
Gumagaling talaga si Maclean Sabellina.

Does he have a productive PBA career ahead of him, Coach?

He could get there, if fate shall be kind to him. A productive "career" in the PBA?? I would say that one has to at least last 10 years/seasons in the league to be able to call it a career. Again, if fate will be kind and if its in his destiny...why not?

Val Acuna, Eric Salamat, Pong Escobal, Hans Thiele, James Martinez, Jimbo Aquino, Orly Daroya, Benedict Fernandez, Tantan Fernandez, Ariel Mepana, Ken Bono, Michael Burtscher, Francis Allera, Khazim Mirza, Hyram Bagatsing, Jai Reyes, Mark Agustin (Wow!!!!!! Some of these guys were even high 1st round rookie picks) Who else?? Help me out.

Mga 1st or 2nd rounders in the last 6-8 years na wala na sa liga (kahit na nasa ABL o D League pa yan-basta wala na sa PBA). And what could they be doing na now?

yungha
04-02-2013, 03:07 PM
^^^ Coach do you have a favorite Bobby Parks move, game or moment? Or maybe a Top 3 or Top 5? I loved it when he was an import for Anejo during a one-week "pocket tournament" sometime in 1991 I think it was. It was very ironic watching Parks playing in an Anejo jersey considering the intense rivalry then between Anejo and Parks's mother team Shell.

hindi ako si ironcoach but i'd like to share my favorite bobby parks moment here. it was in the early 90s and even with open basketball we still couldn't beat the chinese national team. one time the chinese team visited and the PBA fielded 2 teams to play them. one was reinforced by parks and the other by norman black. both teams won, largely on the efforts of the 2 imports. parks was slippery as an eel, evading defenses, slicing thru the zone defense and dominating the boards over the much taller chinese.

if we had only naturalized coach norman or bobby then, sigurado tayo ang asian representative sa olympics at least in 1992 or maybe even up to 1996.

coach, i've always been a tanduay fan so my favorite imports were guys like david thirdkill, rob williams and andy mccoy.

ironcoach
04-02-2013, 05:06 PM
hindi ako si ironcoach but i'd like to share my favorite bobby parks moment here. it was in the early 90s and even with open basketball we still couldn't beat the chinese national team. one time the chinese team visited and the PBA fielded 2 teams to play them. one was reinforced by parks and the other by norman black. both teams won, largely on the efforts of the 2 imports. parks was slippery as an eel, evading defenses, slicing thru the zone defense and dominating the boards over the much taller chinese.

if we had only naturalized coach norman or bobby then, sigurado tayo ang asian representative sa olympics at least in 1992 or maybe e
ven up to 1996.

coach, i've always been a tanduay fan so my favorite imports were guys like david thirdkill, rob williams and andy mccoy.


You needn't have to stop there. Nung nag-champion ang RP sa 1986 ABC with Jeff Moore & Dennis Still, the country was supposed to be Asia's representative sa World Basketball pero since, dating-gawi, politics got in the way, the BAP ceded the ABC championship after the EDSA Revolution parang paninipsip sa Cory Regime after RP Team patron fled the country.

Another naturalized player, Chip Engelland, would've joined Still & Moore in 1987. As early as the late 80's, nakamit na sana yung mga ipina-pangarap palang ngayong 21st Century. Makamit man natin ngayon yan, almost 3 decades din ang nasayang. Maraming mga umasam at nangarap niyan ang wala na dito sa mundo ngayon. Yun pala after all these years, yung formula parin pala na naisip, ni-likha at naisa-katuparan na nung panahon pa ni Marcos (under the stewardship of Amb. Danding Cojuangco) ang gagamiting formula parin.

In short, pinaikot-ikot na kung saan-saan yung prusesyon, doon parin naman din ang bagsak. Yan ang nakakalungkot na side ng history dito sa atin. Too much politics. Lahat nalang ng bagay eh gustong haluan ng pulitika. Asan tayo ngayon?? Was there anyone ever held accountable? Aside from the gains and what not, its the time. 50-60 years behind na tayo as to where we deserve to be. Kelan kaya tayo makaka-chamba ng magaling, honest, dedicated, may vision at practical na leader?

Just like yung may akda ng 2-year residency rule for high school transferees. Hindi man lang ba sumagi sa isipan niya na, although ang intention eh busilak, mala-diktador at kontra-demokrasya ang singaw niyan?? At yung mga "board members" na umayon pa dun sa panukala?? Im sure these are well-respected folks in society. QUE HOROR!!!

Malamang mga Martial Law babies. Lumaki sa panunupil...nakasanayan naring manupil. IBON MANG MAY LAYANG LUMIPAD...KULUNGIN MO AY UMIIYAK...

ironcoach
04-02-2013, 05:26 PM
...coach, i've always been a tanduay fan so my favorite imports were guys like david thirdkill, rob williams and andy mccoy.

Tanduay (and/or YCO) was a Don Manolo Elizalde company back then. Kaya since birth ng PBA in 1975 hanggang nung 1987, those
Tanduay or Yco/Tanduay basketball teams were still Elizalde-owned. They sold their PBA franchise to Purefoods (which used to be owned by Don Jaime Zobel) until it was eventually sold some years back to San Miguel Corporation.

The Lucio Tan Group of Companies acquired Tanduay from the Elizaldes in the late 80's na. And it was on
ly in 1999 when Mr. Lucio Tan Jr. joined the PBA via a new franchise that carried Tanduay again. It was a short-lived (3 seasons all in all) endeavor though. These past 10 years saw us in the now-defunct PBL (Air Philippines/Bacchus Energy Drink/ Burger King/Cobra Enerfy Drink) and currently, you can now catch us in the PBA D-League as the Boracay Rum Waves.

ironcoach
04-05-2013, 08:31 PM
Its been hot...i mean the weather. Terible! Bugbog na sa Meralco bill neto. Aircon the whole day. :) Even the clothes inside my car whenever parked outdoors during the day time, akala mo bagong plantsa sa init at sa amoy. :)

LION
04-05-2013, 09:41 PM
Hit the beach whenever you can, coach. Good for your eyes too! Nagiging 20/20 ang vision ko pag nasa beach ako.

ironcoach
04-06-2013, 12:52 AM
Hit the beach whenever you can, coach. Good for your eyes too! Nagiging 20/20 ang vision ko pag nasa beach ako.

Walang time eh. The D-League is ongoing till May. Maybe in June when school starts. Para hindi masyadong siksikan sa beach. Beside, i already have coupons for a 3-days stay at the Crown Regency Boracay that i purchased on-line from MetroDeal kaya for sure soon, magiging 20/20 narin ang vision ko like you. :)

ironcoach
04-14-2013, 01:19 PM
In the middle of Summer 2013 Philippines...matinding summer heat, sunog here & there, crimes left & right, both heinous & petty, election fever all around us. And of course, ang hindi maa-aring mawala, inspite of all the dramas & controversies surrounding it these past few months, ang larong basketball.

The PBA, the D-League, the collegiate leagues, the upcoming FIBA-Asia, yung mga basketball camps & clinics for kids, hanggang dun sa mga inter-barangay at inter-kalsada, isama mo narin yung inter-tsinelas...Summer na! Basketball na!

ironcoach
04-25-2013, 09:37 AM
I had promised my player Paolo Taha of CSB that i'd drop-by the San Juan Arena yesterday to watch them play NU in a FilOil game. Unknowingly, it was ADMU-UE in the 2nd game. :)

I had already given CSB up for dead after they trailed NU by 10 pts with a minute & 15secs remaining in the game. But all of a sudden, it was a courageous 10-0 run by the Blazers in a minute & 12secs that tied it all up. Sayang nga yung tying basket ng CSB which was deemed a long-2 (ga-kuko lang nung toes ang nasa guhit) or CSB would've even gained the upperhand.

But the man-size upset just wasn't mean't to be. NU scored on a buzzer-beating trey to escape with the win. My hats off to the Blazers though. Undersized & shorter in talent, they showed grit & resilience under extreme disadvantage. Considering that their opponents' war-chest/budget is (easily) 20x more than theirs, parang nanalo narin sila nun.

LION
04-25-2013, 09:47 AM
Hello coach, sent you a PM.

Thanks.

ironcoach
04-26-2013, 01:24 AM
Hello coach, sent you a PM.

Thanks.

Was that about the tryout? About the Chris kid?

LION
04-26-2013, 12:09 PM
yes coach.

ironcoach
04-26-2013, 08:10 PM
yes coach.

Maybe next season nalang. Around September. Its too late in the day na.

LION
04-26-2013, 09:34 PM
Yes coach. Will relay the message. Salamat.

ironcoach
04-27-2013, 12:30 AM
Yes coach. Will relay the message. Salamat.

Is Chris the guy na medyo Bumbayin ang features? About 6'4? I bumped into a guy sa Arena and he's claiming na he's supposed to suit up for the Eagles pero napurnada becoz of academic failures. And also, wala na siyang playing year left. Siya kaya yon?

LION
04-27-2013, 09:02 AM
Is Chris the guy na medyo Bumbayin ang features? About 6'4? I bumped into a guy sa Arena and he's claiming na he's supposed to suit up for the Eagles pero napurnada becoz of academic failures. And also, wala na siyang playing year left. Siya kaya yon?

Yes, coach. I don’t know him personally but a friend approached me and asked if he can bring Chris to you for a tryout. I know it’s already late for a tryout at this stage because the D-league has already began when I was requested but he said he’s trying out for the next D-League with you. I’ve seen Chris play against San Beda during off-season and he helped the Blue Eagles beat my team by shooting well from the rainbow area. If you need a PG or SG who can really shoot, Chris is definitely worth considering.

ironcoach
04-29-2013, 08:04 AM
Too much basketball lately? Nakaka-umay na ba? O todo-enjoyable parin? Pag-gising sa umaga NBA Playoffs na kaagad ang kasabay sa almusal, and it usually last till past lunchtime. Tuwing Monday, Tuesday & Thursday, PBA D-League naman sa hapon (Tuesdays to Fridays at 9:30pm ang telecast nito on AKTV). May FilOil collegiate basketball pa and yung PBA nasa playoffs narin.

What a treat for certified basketball junkies! Eh yung mga inter-barangays or summer leagues pa that make fans not only mere spectators, but hardcourt idols as well. I Love This Game!

Big Ticket
04-29-2013, 09:34 AM
Too much basketball lately? Nakaka-umay na ba? O todo-enjoyable parin? Pag-gising sa umaga NBA Playoffs na kaagad ang kasabay sa almusal, and it usually last till past lunchtime. Tuwing Monday, Tuesday & Thursday, PBA D-League naman sa hapon (Tuesdays to Fridays at 9:30pm ang telecast nito on AKTV). May FilOil collegiate basketball pa and yung PBA nasa playoffs narin.

What a treat for certified basketball junkies! Eh yung mga inter-barangays or summer leagues pa that make fans not only mere spectato
rs, but hardcourt idols as well. I Love This Game!

Not complaining at all.... Basketball all day! & night hehe

ironcoach
04-29-2013, 09:46 AM
Not complaining at all.... Basketball all day! & night hehe

Isama mo na yung mga pangangampanya sa eleksyon in disguise na pa-liga kuno. Kadalasan all-nighter ang mga yan coz mas matagal o mahaba ang talumpati kesa basketball. :) Dini-dribol pa ang mga botante. Swak!!!

Big Ticket
04-29-2013, 03:24 PM
coach, nagdagdag pala kayo ng 2 beterano sa team nyo....julius pasculado & jonathan fernandez....good additions!

ironcoach
04-29-2013, 04:04 PM
coach, nagdagdag pala kayo ng 2 beterano sa team nyo....julius pasculado & jonathan fernandez....good additions!

Para sa D-League, i agree na key acquisitions nga itong dalawang ex-PBA cagers. This is also Jonathan's first & last conference sa D-League since he'll be turning 29 na this September. Ini-encourage at kinu-konchaba ko siya na bigyan kami ng lift to hopefully mapaganda ang showing namin this conference and also to make PBA teams give him a 2nd look.

Pasculado has good attitude, good work ethic & well disciplined. Konting seasoning, gulang at kapal ng mukha nalang and he'll be 1 fine point guard.

Pero kapag hindi kami parin manalo...mga wala silang silbi! :)

yungha
04-30-2013, 09:55 AM
Coach, naalala mo dati ang pag-asa lang natin makanood ng nba game was thru FEN? Tapos once a week lang ata.

ironcoach
04-30-2013, 10:26 AM
Coach, naalala mo dati ang pag-asa lang natin makanood ng nba game was thru FEN? Tapos once a week lang ata.

Wala pa yan. Yung championship game nung 1978 Finals between the Seattle Supersonics and the Washington Bullets, sa Roxan Theatre sa Avenida (Rizal Ave.) ko pa pinanood.

And speaking of FEN-P (Far East Network-Philippines), malaki-laki rin na-invest/nasayang kong pera dyan sa kapapalit ng mas malakas (kuno) na booster tsaka sa kadu-dugtong ng antenna pole. Pero more often than not, snowy parin. Kadalasan nga halos wala ka ng makita sa screen lalo na kung mag-uumaga na.

Pero tiyaga parin kahit na halos nagmi-mistulang radyo nalang siya sa sobrang snowy.

ironcoach
05-03-2013, 06:33 PM
Congratulations Chris Tiu! New PBA 3-point King!

ironcoach
05-05-2013, 08:30 AM
And so the 1st Round of the 2013 NBA playoffs has concluded (only the Chicago-Brooklyn series to be decided 2 hrs from now). Were there any hearts broken or disappointments to anyone out there?

In the East, #1 Miami, #2 New York & #3 Indiana are all safely through to the next round, no surprises there. Out West, except for #1 San Antonio & #2 Oklahoma waltzing into the 2nd Round, #3 Denver & #4 LA Clippers had both succumbed to the upset axe & have fallen by the wayside en route to an early exit in these playoffs.

The suspense & entertainment will now shift to the 2nd Round or the Conference Semi-Finals stage for the next 10-12 days with only 8 remaining survivors. More or less 5-6 more weeks of action and drama coinciding with breakfast/brunch. Its that time of the year once again when we await/anticipate the crowning of the World Champions in basketball. Enjoy the games.

abcdef
05-05-2013, 09:01 AM
Coach,Speaking of nba playoffs . . .kakayanin kaya ng GSW ang Spurs?

ironcoach
05-05-2013, 06:18 PM
Coach,Speaking of nba playoffs . . .kakayanin kaya ng GSW ang Spurs?

Magandang dehado ang Warriors dyan. Mai-dikta lang nila ang uptempo game for 48 mins every single game sa seryeng ito, malay natin kapusin ang Spurs in a long-drawn battle. But if they will allow San Antonio's experience & savvy to smother & push them around, then this could very well end up as a short series.

genom222
05-06-2013, 01:30 AM
exciting ang mga match up sa 2nd round coach... Heat-Bulls, Knicks-Pacers, Spurs-Warriors, Thunder-Grizzlies. Kahit favorites ang Miami at SA meron pa rin silang tulog kung di man sa 2nd round, sa 3rd meron! Sino prediction mo Finals match up? I dont see OKC coming back due to the Westbrook injury so malamang SA-Miami. Feeling ko nga laglag OKC sa Grizzlies pa lang e.