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red_engr1987
01-24-2012, 02:47 PM
Kong Hei Fat Choi(Fookien)/Gong Xi Fa Cai(Mandarin) Ironcoach!!

Will just share this.Sorry for those Chinese slurs. Patawad. May mga friends din ako.Baka magalit sila.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rxz_75cv998

Para may connect sa basketball:
Chris Tiu-Isang bata nakanguya
Atoy Co-ng isang laruan
Lim Eng Beng-may limang tama ng bala



Kung Hei Fat Choi is Cantonese. Kiong Hee Huat Tsai is Fookien or Hokkien.

To all my Hoop-Scoopers here at Gameface: Happy Chinese New Year to all of you!

Maging masagana, maligaya, malusog at maharot sana itong year of the Dragon para sa ating lahat.



Happy New Year IRONCOACH next time bigyan mo naman kami ng tikoy pampaswerte daw yun pwede rin lagyan mo ng red envelope na may laman na money :) happy new year to all !!!

coach_of_steel
01-24-2012, 05:53 PM
Kong Hei Fat Choi(Fookien)/Gong Xi Fa Cai(Mandarin) Ironcoach!!

Will just share this.Sorry for those Chinese slurs. Patawad. May mga friends din ako.Baka magalit sila.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rxz_75cv998

Para may connect sa basketball:
Chris Tiu-Isang bata nakanguya
Atoy Co-ng isang laruan
Lim Eng Beng-may limang tama ng bala



Kung Hei Fat Choi is Cantonese. Kiong Hee Huat Tsai is Fookien or Hokkien.

To all my Hoop-Scoopers here at Gameface: Happy Chinese New Year to all of you!

Maging masagana, maligaya, malusog at maharot sana itong year of the Dragon para sa ating lahat.


Happy New Year IRONCOACH next time bigyan mo naman kami ng tikoy pampaswerte daw yun pwede rin lagyan mo ng red envelope na may laman na money :) happy new year to all !!!


Happy Chinese New Year, sir. Hayaan mo next year may kasama ng tikoy ang mag-post dito sa araw mismo ng Chinese New Year. At kung may isingit man akong envelope, either brown or white nalang pwede? Allergic kasi ako sa red. ;)

coach_of_steel
01-26-2012, 11:46 PM
PBA trades, trades, trades. Sa-sampung teams nalang naglo-lokohan pa. It has really gone out of control. Sa sobrang kaka-isip sa pan-sariling kapakanan, napabayaan na yung pangka-lahatang kabutihan. Ito ba talaga ang gusto ng Philippine Basketball Republic?

james_ty
01-27-2012, 07:44 AM
PBA trades, trades, trades. Sa-sampung teams nalang naglo-lokohan pa. It has really gone out of control. Sa sobrang kaka-isip sa pan-sariling kapakanan, napabayaan na yung pangka-lahatang kabutihan. Ito ba talaga ang gusto ng Philippine Basketball Republic?


The PBA today is dominated by two big companies who sacrifice team loyalty in favor of building strong teams because of money. The PBA Commissioner is doing his best to study those trades and decide whether they are fair enough.

Even in the NBA, this also happens.

coach_of_steel
01-27-2012, 11:06 AM
PBA trades, trades, trades. Sa-sampung teams nalang naglo-lokohan pa. It has really gone out of control. Sa sobrang kaka-isip sa pan-sariling kapakanan, napabayaan na yung pangka-lahatang kabutihan. Ito ba talaga ang gusto ng Philippine Basketball Republic?


The PBA today is dominated by two big companies who sacrifice team loyalty in favor of building strong teams because of money. The PBA Commissioner is doing his best to study those trades and decide whether they are fair enough.

Even in the NBA, this also happens.


In tne NBA, kahit na papaano we don't hear of lopsided trades. Tsaka walang team na nagpapa-gamit. Usually its because free agents na ang mga players involved, at pwede ng pumili ng teams na gustong lipatan at gustong layasan as in the case of Lebron James, Carmelo Anthony, Chris Bosh, Deron Williams, Kevin Garnett, Chris Paul, etc.

At similar scenario rin assuming the team naman ang may gustong to get rid of certain players. Nung inofferan ng malaking deal si Tyson Chandler ng NY Knicks, hindi ito tinapatan ng Dallas Mavericks kaya naka-lipat. Gusto ring lumipat ng team ni Dwight Howard pero habang hindi siya binibitiwan ng Orlando, hindi rin siya makaalis.

Yung NBA, in spite of having 30 teams, may law and order na tinu-tulay kasi city-based na liga yon. Yung mga fans nila mismo ang makaka-ramdam kung yung home team nila eh gumagawa ng paraan o sini-sikap bang lumakas o kabulastugan na ang ginagawa.

Did you know na kabilang sa mga players na na-draft o dumaan/sumaglit sa Bert Lina franchise in the PBA ay sina Gary David, Arwind Santos, Ranidel de Ocampo, Mark Pingris, Noy Baclao, Rabeh Al-Hussaini, Rey Guevarra, Ronjay Buenafe, Paul Artadi, Jay Washington, Ronald Tubid(2nd tour of duty) and Allein Maliksi(after less than 1 conference) and now, Dylan Ababou(after 1 conference).

This franchise has been in the PBA for 10 years and has 0 championship to show for it. The players mentioned above were with them (at 1 time or the other) these past 5-6 years lang so maybe if they've kept them intact or together lang for awhile, nakapag-champion narin sana sila kahit isa lang para mapaligaya naman nila ang mga fans nila tsaka iwasang ma-bahiran yung legitimacy nila as a professional basketball team in the country. Konting pino naman sana.

Dun naman sa mga rich teams, hindi rin maganda yung hoarding in the long haul. Magiging inter-department niyo nalang ang PBA pagdating ng panahon. Kaya nga may requirements bago tumanggap ng PBA franchise, tapos nandun pa yung team and individual salary caps. If all these owners are financially capable of maintaining their teams, wala na sanang lop-sided trades. But as it is, it seems (smells) like may dummy team owner sa PBA.

pio_valenz
01-27-2012, 12:17 PM
^Ang sa akin, maybe the Commish can make exceptions to the rule prohibiting sister teams from trading directly with each other. Katulad na lang nitong latest trade. B-Meg lang naman ang gustong mag-trade. pwede sanang straight-up swap, Kerby Raymundo for JC Intal. Kailangan ng Ginebra ng big man, kailangan ng B-Meg ng swingman. pero dahil sa rule na ito, nadamay pa tuloy ang Barako Bull. Balita ko noong una ayaw talagang pakawalan ng Barako si Ababou. They should have stuck to that decision, because Ababou can become a very good player in the near future, plus he has the charisma to attract fans. In the end, Barako only got an over-the-hill Ronald Tubid and Reil Cervantes, who isn't in the same league as Ababou.

danny
01-28-2012, 04:43 AM
PBA trades, trades, trades. Sa-sampung teams nalang naglo-lokohan pa. It has really gone out of control. Sa sobrang kaka-isip sa pan-sariling kapakanan, napabayaan na yung pangka-lahatang kabutihan. Ito ba talaga ang gusto ng Philippine Basketball Republic?


Ganayan talaga coach sa lipunang pyudal at madaling gumawa ng oligopolyo na patunong monopolyo. Sa tingin ng monopolista , ang mabuti sa KANYA e mabuti sa lahat.

Teka hindi lang pala yan sa lipunang pyudal kundi saan mang lipunang pinapayagan ang monopoly at oligopolyo sa ngalan ng "free market" kuno.

E kung ang College basketball sa Pinas, bansot pero kung umasta akala mo mga higante. Pba pa? ;)

zoom2k7
01-28-2012, 07:43 AM
may naniniwala ba dito na si bert lina talaga ang may ari ng barako bull?

james_ty
01-28-2012, 08:10 AM
PBA trades, trades, trades. Sa-sampung teams nalang naglo-lokohan pa. It has really gone out of control. Sa sobrang kaka-isip sa pan-sariling kapakanan, napabayaan na yung pangka-lahatang kabutihan. Ito ba talaga ang gusto ng Philippine Basketball Republic?


The PBA today is dominated by two big companies who sacrifice team loyalty in favor of building strong teams because of money. The PBA Commissioner is doing his best to study those trades and decide whether they are fair enough.

Even in the NBA, this also happens.


In tne NBA, kahit na papaano we don't hear of lopsided trades. Tsaka walang team na nagpapa-gamit. Usually its because free agents na ang mga players involved, at pwede ng pumili ng teams na gustong lipatan at gustong layasan as in the case of Lebron James, Carmelo Anthony, Chris Bosh, Deron Williams, Kevin Garnett, Chris Paul, etc.

At similar scenario rin assuming the team naman ang may gustong to get rid of certain players. Nung inofferan ng malaking deal si Tyson Chandler ng NY Knicks, hindi ito tinapatan ng Dallas Mavericks kaya naka-lipat. Gusto ring lumipat ng team ni Dwight Howard pero habang hindi siya binibitiwan ng Orlando, hindi rin siya makaalis.

Yung NBA, in spite of having 30 teams, may law and order na tinu-tulay kasi city-based na liga yon. Yung mga fans nila mismo ang makaka-ramdam kung yung home team nila eh gumagawa ng paraan o sini-sikap bang lumakas o kabulastugan na ang ginagawa.

Did you know na kabilang sa mga players na na-draft o dumaan/sumaglit sa Bert Lina franchise in the PBA ay sina Gary David, Arwind Santos, Ranidel de Ocampo, Mark Pingris, Noy Baclao, Rabeh Al-Hussaini, Rey Guevarra, Ronjay Buenafe, Paul Artadi, Jay Washington, Ronald Tubid(2nd tour of duty) and Allein Maliksi(after less than 1 conference) and now, Dylan Ababou(after 1 conference).

This franchise has been in the PBA for 10 years and has 0 championship to show for it. The players mentioned above were with them (at 1 time or the other) these past 5-6 years lang so maybe if they've kept them intact or together lang for awhile, nakapag-champion narin sana sila kahit isa lang para mapaligaya naman nila ang mga fans nila tsaka iwasang ma-bahiran yung legitimacy nila as a professional basketball team in the country. Konting pino naman sana.

Dun naman sa mga rich teams, hindi rin maganda yung hoarding in the long haul. Magiging inter-department niyo nalang ang PBA pagdating ng panahon. Kaya nga may requirements bago tumanggap ng PBA franchise, tapos nandun pa yung team and individual salary caps. If all these owners are financially capable of maintaining their teams, wala na sanang lop-sided trades. But as it is, it seems (smells) like may dummy team owner sa PBA.






I have a feeling that Bert Lina is being used by the SMC teams as a sacrificial lamb. If he cares for basketball like the Higanteng Magilas program, he should also maintain a competitive team. But if he keeps on trading players due to the whims of other team owners, walang mangyayari.

MonL
01-28-2012, 08:30 AM
may naniniwala ba dito na si bert lina talaga ang may ari ng barako bull?


The word "dummy" has different connotations, none of them good.

bRED_and_butter
01-28-2012, 11:06 AM
PBA trades, trades, trades. Sa-sampung teams nalang naglo-lokohan pa. It has really gone out of control. Sa sobrang kaka-isip sa pan-sariling kapakanan, napabayaan na yung pangka-lahatang kabutihan. Ito ba talaga ang gusto ng Philippine Basketball Republic?


Coach what do you think about the approved trade involving Bmeg, ginebra and Barako Bull? Do you share the same view of the commissioner that it is fair and reasonable? Personally kasi, I honestly think that it is one side in favor of Ginebra.

The_Big_Cat
01-28-2012, 12:09 PM
Historically, Bert Lina has a knack for trading marquee players. Jay Washington, Arwind Santos, Mac Cardona, KG Canaleta, Renren Ritualo, Yancy De Ocampo, Gary David, Japeth Aguilar and Ranidel De Ocampo have been former players of the Lina franchise. The only untouchable player at the Lina franchise has been Wynne Arboleda. ;D

The recent trade of the Lina franchise is not new and he does not only cater to SMC but also to MVP teams as well. ;D

coach_of_steel
01-28-2012, 02:18 PM
^Ang sa akin, maybe the Commish can make exceptions to the rule prohibiting sister teams from trading directly with each other. Katulad na lang nitong latest trade. B-Meg lang naman ang gustong mag-trade. pwede sanang straight-up swap, Kerby Raymundo for JC Intal. Kailangan ng Ginebra ng big man, kailangan ng B-Meg ng swingman. pero dahil sa rule na ito, nadamay pa tuloy ang Barako Bull. Balita ko noong una ayaw talagang pakawalan ng Barako si Ababou. They should have stuck to that decision, because Ababou can become a very good player in the near future, plus he has the charisma to attract fans. In the end, Barako only got an over-the-hill Ronald Tubid and Reil Cervantes, who isn't in the same league as Ababou.


Hindi naman madadamay ang Barako kung hindi sila magpapa-damay diba? Eh bakit nagpa-damay? Ayaw nilang pakawalan si Ababou pero in the end pinakawalan parin. Bakit? Anong kinalaman ng Barako sa problema ng mga SMC teams??

Unless.... ;)

coach_of_steel
01-28-2012, 05:09 PM
PBA trades, trades, trades. Sa-sampung teams nalang naglo-lokohan pa. It has really gone out of control. Sa sobrang kaka-isip sa pan-sariling kapakanan, napabayaan na yung pangka-lahatang kabutihan. Ito ba talaga ang gusto ng Philippine Basketball Republic?


Ganayan talaga coach sa lipunang pyudal at madaling gumawa ng oligopolyo na patunong monopolyo. Sa tingin ng monopolista , ang mabuti sa KANYA e mabuti sa lahat.

Teka hindi lang pala yan sa lipunang pyudal kundi saan mang lipunang pinapayagan ang monopoly at oligopolyo sa ngalan ng
"free market" kuno.

E kung ang College basketball sa Pinas, bansot pero kung umasta akala mo mga higante. Pba pa? ;)

Yan na naka-gisnan natin. Naging kultura na. You don't teach old dogs new tricks. Just like yung big deal ang may car plate #8. Ika nga ni P-Noy: utak wang-wang.

coach_of_steel
01-28-2012, 05:10 PM
may naniniwala ba dito na si bert lina talaga ang may ari ng barako bull?


Sad to say, malamang meron parin. ;)

coach_of_steel
01-28-2012, 05:16 PM
PBA trades, trades, trades. Sa-sampung teams nalang naglo-lokohan pa. It has really gone out of control. Sa sobrang kaka-isip sa pan-sariling kapakanan, napabayaan na yung pangka-lahatang kabutihan. Ito ba talaga ang gusto ng Philippine Basketball Republic?


The PBA today is dominated by two big companies who sacrifice team loyalty in favor of building strong teams because of money. The PBA Commissioner is doing his best to study those trades and decide whether they are fair enough.
Even in the NBA, this also happens.


In tne NBA, kahit na papaano we don't hear of lopsided trades. Tsaka walang team na nagpapa-gamit. Usually its because free agents na ang mga players involved, at pwede ng pumili ng teams na gustong lipatan at gustong layasan as in the case of Lebron James, Carmelo Anthony, Chris Bosh, Deron Williams, Kevin Garnett, Chris Paul, etc.

At similar scenario rin assuming the team naman ang may gustong to get rid of certain players. Nung inofferan ng malaking deal si Tyson Chandler ng NY Knicks, hindi ito tinapatan ng Dallas Mavericks kaya naka-lipat. Gusto ring lumipat ng team ni Dwight Howard pero habang hindi siya binibitiwan ng Orlando, hindi rin siya makaalis.

Yung NBA, in spite of having 30 teams, may law and order na tinu-tulay kasi city-based na liga yon. Yung mga fans nila mismo ang makaka-ramdam kung yung home team nila eh gumagawa ng paraan o sini-sikap bang lumakas o kabulastugan na ang ginagawa.

Did you know na kabilang sa mga players na na-draft o dumaan/sumaglit sa Bert Lina franchise in the PBA ay sina Gary David, Arwind Santos, Ranidel de Ocampo, Mark Pingris, Noy Baclao, Rabeh Al-Hussaini, Rey Guevarra, Ronjay Buenafe, Paul Artadi, Jay Washington, Ronald Tubid(2nd tour of duty) and Allein Maliksi(after less than 1 conference) and now, Dylan Ababou(after 1 conference).

This franchise has been in the PBA for 10 years and has 0 championship to show for it. The players mentioned above were with
them (at 1 time or the other) these past 5-6 years lang so maybe if they've kept them intact or together lang for awhile, nakapag-champion narin sana sila kahit isa lang para mapaligaya naman nila ang mga fans nila tsaka iwasang ma-bahiran yung legitimacy nila as a professional basketball team in the country. Konting pino naman sana.

Dun naman sa mga rich teams, hindi rin maganda yung hoarding in the long haul. Magiging inter-department niyo nalang ang PBA pagdating ng panahon. Kaya nga may requirements bago tumanggap ng PBA franchise, tapos nandun pa yung team and individual salary caps. If all these owners are financially capable of maintaining their teams, wala na sanang lop-sided trades. But as it is, it seems (smells) like may dummy team owner sa PBA.



I have a feeling that Bert Lina is being used by the SMC teams as a sacrificial lamb. If he cares for basketball like the Higanteng Magilas program, he should also maintain a competitive team. But if he keeps on trading players due to the whims of other team owners, walang mangyayari.


"being used" at "sacrificial lamb" parin ba maitu-turing ASSUMING binayaran o may involved na kabayaran?? In English, compensation. ;)

coach_of_steel
01-28-2012, 05:27 PM
PBA trades, trades, trades. Sa-sampung teams nalang naglo-lokohan pa. It has really gone out of control. Sa sobrang kaka-isip sa pan-sariling kapakanan, napabayaan na yung pangka-lahatang kabutihan. Ito ba talaga ang gusto ng Philippine Basketball Republic?


Coach what do you think about the approved trade involving Bmeg, ginebra and Barako Bull? Do you share the same view of the commissioner that it is fair and reasonable? Personally kasi, I honestly think that it is one side in favor of Ginebra.


On the vernacular, and since it had been approved by no less than the person upholding the law in the PBA, it probably is a fair, rather a legit, deal. The teams involved must've all gotten what they asked for. Whether in the caliber of the players or the color of money.

Eh kung sila ngang mga directly involved eh masaya, tayo pa kayang mga usisero lang? ;)

Once everybody grows older & wiser in the real world, maybe we'll realize na tama nga ginagawa ng Air21 (Barako Bull) these past several years. At the end of the day, what price a PBA trophy? Maka-kain ba yon!

Eh yung mga suki nilang buyers are conglomerates while sila naman eh single-proprietor. Mas masakit maglabas ng pondo galing sa sariling bulsa.

coach_of_steel
01-28-2012, 05:36 PM
Historically, Bert Lina has a knack for trading marquee players. Jay Washington, Arwind Santos, Mac Cardona, KG Canaleta, Renren Ritualo, Yancy De Ocampo, Gary David, Japeth Aguilar and Ranidel De Ocampo have been former players of the Lina franchise. The only untouchable player at the Lina franchise has been Wynne Arboleda. ;D

The recent trade of the Lina franchise is not new and he does not only cater to SMC but also to MVP teams as well. ;D


Magka-team man ako sa PBA in the future at maliit na kumpanya (as compared to the multi-nationals) lang ang sponsor ko, malamang gayahin ko rin ang blue print ng Air21/Barako Bull. Then someday kapag nag-uumapaw na ang War Chest ko (it took the Dallas Mavericks 31 years to win their 1st championship) dun ko na gagawan ng paraan na mag-champion. Pang-Legacy lang kapag matanda at magre-retiro na ako.

Even in the NBA, maybe more than half of their 30-team rosters hasn't won a championship din naman. Why can't Air21/Barako Bull be the same? Bawal ba??? :D

coach_of_steel
02-03-2012, 03:13 AM
Today's big news: San Miguel reacquired Coca Cola. In basketball lingo, San Miguel re-owned the Powerade Tigers. SMC- MVP inter-department basketball league...MALAPIT NA!!!

Sosyal! Sa Araneta pa ang venue. ;)

coach_of_steel
02-03-2012, 03:15 AM
may naniniwala ba dito na si bert lina talaga ang may ari ng barako bull?


Ako hindi. Ewan ko lang yung madlang-pipol. ;)

genom222
02-03-2012, 04:24 AM
Today's big news: San Miguel reacquired Coca Cola. In basketball lingo, San Miguel re-owned the Powerade Tigers. SMC- MVP inter-department basketball league...MALAPIT NA!!!

Sosyal! Sa Araneta pa ang venue. ;)


Sa All Star Game pwede na SMC versus PBA LOL! ;D

SMC
1. Petron
2. B-Meg
3. Ginebra
4. Powerade
5. Air 21

PBA
1. Alaska
2. Barako Bull
3. Rain or Shine
4. Talk N' Text
5. Meralco

coach_of_steel
02-03-2012, 10:26 AM
Today's big news: San Miguel reacquired Coca Cola. In basketball lingo, San Miguel re-owned the Powerade Tigers. SMC- MVP inter-department basketball league...MALAPIT NA!!!

Sosyal! Sa Araneta pa ang venue. ;)


Sa All Star Game pwede na SMC versus PBA LOL! ;D

SMC
1. Petron
2. B-Meg
3. Ginebra
4. Powerade
5. Air 21

PBA
1. Alaska
2. Barako Bull
3. Rain or Shine
4. Talk N' Text
5. Meralco


Barako Bull yata ang SMC undercover team. Air21 could be the team maintained by the Lina Group since tipid line-up lang naman yon.

coach_of_steel
02-03-2012, 07:31 PM
Survey nga para sa mga self-styled b-ball experts/hoop-scoopers dito. Lurkers welcome too:

HAPPY BA KAYO AND ACCEPTABLE BA (the truth) SA INYO ANG MGA RECENT DEVELOPMENTS (say, these past 3 years) IN OUR BASKETBALL SCENE (PROS-monopolies and players hoarding/uneven playing field COLLEGE-foreign invasions AND NATIONAL-quick-fix naturalization for import/mercenary) Whether yes or no, please let me know why. Thanks.

Happy posting, hoop-scoopers.

genom222
02-03-2012, 10:06 PM
Survey nga para sa mga self-styled b-ball experts/hoop-scoopers dito. Lurkers welcome too:

HAPPY BA KAYO AND ACCEPTABLE BA (the truth) SA INYO ANG MGA RECENT DEVELOPMENTS (say, these past 3 years) IN OUR BASKETBALL SCENE (PROS-monopolies and players hoarding/uneven playing field COLLEGE-foreign invasions AND NATIONAL-quick-fix naturalization for import/mercenary) Whether yes or no, please let me know why. Thanks.

Happy posting, hoop-scoopers.




Let me take a crack at it Coach!

PRO - No, its not acceptable for me because nagsuffer yung product which is the game itself. Alam mo na malaki chance ng SMC teams pumasok sa Finals and malamang kalaban nila MVP team naman. Sana the league can lower the admission fee? So other corps can join and limit yung number of teams under a single company to 2 or the most 1 na lang. Kumbaga the playing field is not level. Di na ko fan ng San Miguel dahil one (1) wala na sila sa PBA and two (2) di ko gusto yung pag monopolize nila sa liga.

College - Siempre since I'm a Bedan pabor ako sa pag allow ng foreign players. Not only because bias ako but siempre it actually improves the quality of the game. And also, if schools in the USA and other countries allow this why not also us? International flavor improves the game IMO.

National team - I dont really disagree with having a naturalized player but I dont think that is the problem. Our problem is dedication and the right kind of players for the system. Natalo tayo sa recently sa FIBA Asia not because of height because we that in Douhit but it was missed free throws, lack of defense and set offense that did it for us. IMO if it was Dwight Howard instead of Douhit in our team talo pa rin tayo. I honestly believe that.

danny
02-04-2012, 03:19 AM
Survey nga para sa mga self-styled b-ball experts/hoop-scoopers dito. Lurkers welcome too:

HAPPY BA KAYO AND ACCEPTABLE BA (the truth) SA INYO ANG MGA RECENT DEVELOPMENTS (say, these past 3 years) IN OUR BASKETBALL SCENE (PROS-monopolies and players hoarding/uneven playing field COLLEGE-foreign invasions AND NATIONAL-quick-fix naturalization for import/mercenary) Whether yes or no, please let me know why. Thanks.

Happy posting, hoop-scoopers.





College ball muna.

Ako ang gusto ko i-ban na lang ang basketball. Imported kasi. Kung walang basketball, walang imported basketball players. ;)

Sa pros.

Hayaan ko na lang yang mga monopolistang yan. Hindi na lang ako manonood ng PBA. Sila na lang maglokohan.


Naturalized players/mercenaries?

Ancient history is filled with mercenary soldiers. Kung ang gyera ng Amerika, karamiham ngayon mercenaryo ng mga PRIVATE SECURITY FORCES, basketball pa.

Kung i-ban ang mga mercenaries, i-ban na din ang BPO.


Joke pero pwede ding hindi.


What is happening is partly the result of capital looking for greater returns. The nature of capital is being actualized in the real economy, culture and collective point of view.

In a sense the globalization of capital has opened not just the financial marketplace but even the real economy, politics entertainment and sports.

If we want to return into a more decentralized and localized human activity, we need to destroy the power of global capital, then the global corporate structure itself.

The monopolization of power is also internal and integral to capital. Thus monopolization is natural phenomenon which in this case will be reflected in the PBA.

Mahabang istory ito. That was a broad brushstroke that can never reflect the dynamics at work.

Locally here is what can be done:

College ball:

The no-foreign student schools should break-away and form their own league. Let them prove that having locals only is better than having foreign students.


PBA..

Don't watch the PBA.

The local non-foreign linked companies should form their own alternative to the PBA. Let them prove that non-monopolized commercial league is viable.


Viable? Well at least there is a choice. Otherwise, we can always wait and relax for the implosion. It will come one way or another when a new formula is available and viable.

danny
02-04-2012, 04:19 AM
Today's big news: San Miguel reacquired Coca Cola. In basketball lingo, San Miguel re-owned the Powerade Tigers. SMC- MVP inter-department basketball league...MALAPIT NA!!!

Sosyal! Sa Araneta pa ang venue. ;)


Sa All Star Game pwede na SMC versus PBA LOL! ;D

SMC
1. Petron
2. B-Meg
3. Ginebra
4. Powerade
5. Air 21

PBA
1. Alaska
2. Barako Bull
3. Rain or Shine
4. Talk N' Text
5. Meralco


Barako Bull yata ang SMC undercover team. Air21 could be the team maintained by the Lina Group since tipid line-up lang naman yon.


Undercover team? ;D Classic PacMan style ito, coach. (Para sa hindi nakakaalam, PacMan tawag kay Boss noon).

danny
02-04-2012, 04:38 AM
PBA trades, trades, trades. Sa-sampung teams nalang naglo-lokohan pa. It has really gone out of control. Sa sobrang kaka-isip sa pan-sariling kapakanan, napabayaan na yung pangka-lahatang kabutihan. Ito ba talaga ang gusto ng Philippine Basketball Republic?


The PBA today is dominated by two big companies who sacrifice team loyalty in favor of building strong teams because of money. The PBA Commissioner is doing his best to study those trades and decide whether they are fair enough.

Even in the NBA, this also happens.



The PBA is a commercial league run primarily for profit. Team Loyalty is secondary if the owners believe that the trades will not affect the bottomline.

If the player movements will unduly affect the bottom line, then and only then will the owners factor in "loyalty" into the equation.

To counter how they operate, the people should simply stop watching the PBA and make it an expensive proposition for the monopolists. Otherwise, let the zombies watch the games till death.

maroonmartian
02-04-2012, 08:10 AM
Coach I could help but notice the colors of PBA teams (collegiate level may variation) but does the PBA teams only choose two colors at the most?

RED and BLUE.

Wala po ba Green or Black (like the Spurs) or Yellow. Yes may orange (Meralco) but other than that it is all shades of Blue or Red.

coach_of_steel
02-04-2012, 12:43 PM
Survey nga para sa mga self-styled b-ball experts/hoop-scoopers dito. Lurkers welcome too:

HAPPY BA KAYO AND ACCEPTABLE BA (the truth) SA INYO ANG MGA RECENT DEVELOPMENTS (say, these past 3 years) IN OUR BASKETBALL SCENE (PROS-monopolies and players hoarding/uneven playing field COLLEGE-foreign invasions AND NATIONAL-quick-fix naturalization for import/mercenary) Whether yes or no, please let me know why. Thanks.

Happy posting, hoop-scoopers.








College ball muna.

Ako ang gusto ko i-ban na lang ang basketball. Imported kasi. Kung walang basketball, walang imported basketball players. ;)

Sa pros.

Hayaan ko na lang yang mga monopolistang yan. Hindi na lang ako manonood ng PBA. Sila na lang maglokohan.

Naturalized players/mercenaries?

Ancient history is filled with mercenary soldiers. Kung ang gyera ng Amerika, karamiham ngayon mercenaryo ng mga PRIVATE SECURITY FORCES, basketball pa.

Kung i-ban ang mga mercenaries, i-ban na din ang BPO.

Joke pero pwede ding hindi.

What is happening is partly the result of capital looking for greater returns. The nature of capital is being actualized in the real economy, culture and collective point of view.

In a sense the globalization of capital has opened not just the financial marketplace but even the real economy, politics entertainment and sports.

If we want to return into a more decentralized and localized human activity, we need to destroy the power of global capital, then the global corporate structure itself.

The monopolization of power is also internal and integral to capital. Thus monopolization is natural phenomenon which in this case
will be reflected in the PBA.

Mahabang istory ito. That was a broad brushstroke that can never reflect the dynamics at work.

Locally here is what can be done:

College ball:

The no-foreign student schools should break-away and form their own league. Let them prove that having locals only is better than having foreign students.

PBA..

Don't watch the PBA.

The local non-foreign linked companies should form their own alternative to the PBA. Let them prove that non-monopolized commercial league is viable.

Viable? Well at least there is a choice. Otherwise, we can always wait and relax for the implosion. It will come one way or another when a new formula is available and viable.


Eto ang mga post! LION was right all along na mas intellectual or mas sensible at least ang mga makaka-salimuha ko rito. Sir, respetado ko yang opinyon mo although not 100%. But still, masterpiece parin nonetheless.

genocide....Ikaw Na!!

coach_of_steel
02-04-2012, 02:14 PM
Sir danny, isa ka pa! Ang lalalim ng mga insights mo. May pagka-radical but you rock!

coach_of_steel
02-04-2012, 02:17 PM
Coach I could help but notice the colors of PBA teams (collegiate level may variation) but does the PBA teams only choose two colors at the most?

RED and BLUE.

Wala po ba Green or Black (like the Spurs) or Yellow. Yes may orange (Meralco) but other than that it is all shades of Blue or Red.



Look at my BORACAY RUM team colors naman...Mint Green and Chocolate Brown. Very chic. ;)

coach_of_steel
02-04-2012, 07:49 PM
Coming soon... Marcio Lassiter of Powerade for Rey Guevarra & Noy Baclao of Petron. Whats ur take on this, Hoops-Scoopers??

KAMPIHAN NA!!!

pio_valenz
02-05-2012, 12:40 AM
^Most lopsided trade proposal ever. Now we'll see if Comm. Salud is really serious about wanting to stamp out one-sided trades and dispelling the notion that the PBA is an SMC league. If he approves this, whatever goodwill, publicity and fans that were gained in the last conference will all be negated and lost again. Do the right thing, Comm. Disapprove this trade. It insults the intelligence of basketball fans.

coach_of_steel
02-05-2012, 02:14 AM
^Most lopsided trade proposal ever. Now we'll see if Comm. Salud is really serious about wanting to stamp out one-sided trades and dispelling the notion that the PBA is an SMC league. If he approves this, whatever goodwill, publicity and fans that were gained in the last conference will all be negated and lost again. Do the right thing, Comm. Disapprove this trade. It insults the intelligence of basketball fans.


Done deal na raw yan, sir. Pero in the 1st place, di ba hindi narin tayo dapat nagtataka o naa-apektuhan ng mga ganyang developments? I've maintained it once before that we really have a different basketball culture here in our country.

How many times have we heard of over-aged players whether in college or with our National youth teams in the past? About the Fil-Shams( Red Bull wasn't even required by the PBA to return the 2 championship trophys it won with Davonn Harp-later on branded a Fil-Sham by the league. Same goes with Chris Jackson and Shell). About players playing in a prestigious collegiate league eventhough they weren't even high school graduates in the first place.

Di ba lahat naman yan eh swept under the rug na? Siguro ganyan na kasi talaga dito. Very short din ang memories ng mga tuma-tangkilik. Hayaan nalang din natin siguro. Maybe the PBA isn't really catered for the intelligent fans. There are fans that entertainment lang ang habol. Or mga employees sila ng mga kumpanyang may mga professional basketball teams. Pwede ring mahilig lang din sa mga players ( pogi or otherwise). Or talent and skills ng mga players ang hinahangaan.

Wala namang manloloko kung walang magpapa-loko diba?? ;)

james_ty
02-05-2012, 07:35 AM
Comm Salud is in Japan on a business trip and will not be back in his office until perhaps Tuesday or Wednesday.

coach_of_steel
02-05-2012, 01:08 PM
Comm Salud is in Japan on a business trip and will not be back in his office until perhaps Tuesday or Wednesday.


Pwede na naman nowadays thru text, e-mail, long distance call, fax or skype. Just so the players involved in the trade can start practicing with their respective new teams right away since start na ng 2nd conf next week. Pa-gagawan pa ng mga bagong uniforms ang mga yan.

Bukas lang (Monday) ma-ugong na yan. But then again, hindi naman bawal yang trade na yan. Parang binigyan lang ng Powerade ng Uzi sub-machine gun ang Petron in exchange for a balisong and a tirador. Then pray nalang ang Powerade na sa next time na maglaban sila ng Petron, ma-abutan nilang hindi nakatingin o wala sa mood ang Petron para ma-saksak nila ito ng talikuran o bago man lang ito maka-kasa. ;)

red_engr1987
02-05-2012, 02:33 PM
Coming soon... Marcio Lassiter of Powerade for Rey Guevarra & Noy Baclao of Petron. Whats ur take on this, Hoops-Scoopers??

KAMPIHAN NA!!!




be that as it may, my only question is how much money involve in that deal????

red_engr1987
02-05-2012, 02:43 PM
Survey nga para sa mga self-styled b-ball experts/hoop-scoopers dito. Lurkers welcome too:

HAPPY BA KAYO AND ACCEPTABLE BA (the truth) SA INYO ANG MGA RECENT DEVELOPMENTS (say, these past 3 years) IN OUR BASKETBALL SCENE (PROS-monopolies and players hoarding/uneven playing field COLLEGE-foreign invasions AND NATIONAL-quick-fix naturalization for import/mercenary) Whether yes or no, please let me know why. Thanks.

Happy posting, hoop-scoopers.




College Basketball on foreign invasion - well bring it on!!! the rules allows it anyway (NCAA & UAAP). Its a question of how many PHP millions the school & the alumni willing to spend just to bring home the championship. Local recruitment, foreign recruitment, local piracy (whether moral or immoral). Its the school strategy of winning championship. On the recruitment side meron school nagbibigay ng PHP million, condo unit, kotse at trabaho.
Yung entrance exam naku thats total BS kung kailangan yung athlete wala yun. Its all about show me the money most of the time!!!!

red_engr1987
02-05-2012, 02:47 PM
^Most lopsided trade proposal ever. Now we'll see if Comm. Salud is really serious about wanting to stamp out one-sided trades and dispelling the notion that the PBA is an SMC league. If he approves this, whatever goodwill, publicity and fans that were gained in the last conference will all be negated and lost again. Do the right thing, Comm. Disapprove this trade. It insults the intelligence of basketball fans.


Done deal na raw yan, sir. Pero in the 1st place, di ba hindi narin tayo dapat nagtataka o naa-apektuhan ng mga ganyang developments? I've maintained it once before that we really have a different basketball culture here in our country.

How many times have we heard of over-aged players whether in college or with our National youth teams in the past? About the Fil-Shams( Red Bull wasn't even required by the PBA to return the 2 championship trophys it won with Davonn Harp-later on branded a Fil-Sham by the league. Same goes with Chris Jackson and Shell). About players playing in a prestigious collegiate league eventhough they weren't even high school graduates in the first place.

Di ba lahat naman yan eh swept under the rug na? Siguro ganyan na kasi talaga dito. Very short din ang memories ng mga tuma-tangkilik. Hayaan nalang din natin siguro. Maybe the PBA isn't really catered for the intelligent fans. There are fans that entertainment lang ang habol. Or mga employees sila ng mga kumpanyang may mga professional basketball teams. Pwede ring mahilig lang din sa mga players ( pogi or otherwise). Or talent and skills ng mga players ang hinahangaan.

Wala namang manloloko kung walang magpapa-loko diba?? ;)





ironcoach - hindi na maganda ticket sales ng PBA (specially pag out na Ginebra) and also the TV rating it only shows na hindi mga bobo Pinoy basketball fans dito sa Pinas :(

coach_of_steel
02-05-2012, 03:03 PM
Coming soon... Marcio Lassiter of Powerade for Rey Guevarra & Noy Baclao of Petron. Whats ur take on this, Hoops-Scoopers??

KAMPIHAN NA!!!




be that as it may, my only question is how much money involve in that deal????


If you ask me, irrelevant na yung exact amount of money involved. Yung principle tsaka yung fairness and equality ang at stake dito para sa akin. Of course it all boils (always does) down to economics. General rule in life na yan: he who has the gold rules.

Matatakot ka bang mag-pull out sa PBA either ang mga Powerade, Alaska or Rain or Shine o kung ang mag pull-out eh yung San Miguel?? Mawala man ang isa among Alaska, Powerade or Rain or Shine, may pag-asa pang lumutang ang bangka. Kapag San Miguel ang mawala, goodbye PBA.

And personally, i doubt if Marcio would come at a heftier price as compared noon kina Arwind, J-Wash, Ranidel or Enrico. Air21 tsaka Red Bull lang naman ang talagang magaling dyan. But of course pinan-dagdag lang naman sa gastusin ng pagme-maintain ng isang professional basketball team. Pampa-sweldo kumbaga at hindi naman ibinulsa.

coach_of_steel
02-05-2012, 03:19 PM
[quote=pio_valenz ]
^Most lopsided trade proposal ever. Now we'll see if Comm. Salud is really serious about wanting to stamp out one-sided trades and dispelling the notion that the PBA is an SMC league. If he approves this, whatever goodwill, publicity and fans that were gained in the last conference will all be negated and lost again. Do the right thing, Comm. Disapprove this trade. It insults the intelligence of basketball fans.
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Di ba lahat naman yan eh swept under the rug na? Siguro ganyan na kasi talaga dito. Very short din ang memories ng mga tuma-tangkilik. Hayaan nalang din natin siguro. Maybe the PBA isn't really catered for the intelligent fans. There are fans that entertainment lang ang habol. Or mga employees sila ng mga kumpanyang may mga professional basketball teams. Pwede ring mahilig lang din sa mga players ( pogi or otherwise). Or talent and skills ng mga players ang hinahangaan.

Wala namang manloloko kung walang magpapa-loko diba?? ;)



ironcoach - hindi na maganda ticket sales ng PBA (specially pag out na Ginebra) and also the TV rating it only shows na hindi mga bobo Pinoy basketball fans dito sa Pinas :(


Wala naman talagang bobo na fans dito sa atin. Marami naman kasing klase ng fans diba? Meron yung humahanga lang sa galing ng some particular players kahit manalo o matalo or kahit san team man ito mapunta. Meron ding mga weakness talaga ang makakita ng mga basketball players. Meron ding mga sadyang loyal lang sa mga teams na sinu-subaybayan nila. Merong mga kamag-anak, syota, asawa, kamag-anak ng syota at asawa and friends ng mga players, coaches, managers or kaya sumisipsip sa may-ari ng team kaya nandun. Yung mga may dalang mga streamers at naghi-hiyawan at kung minsan ay may kaaway pa...hanap-buhay naman ang tawag dun.

But over and above all these, entertainment parin tsaka institution na ang PBA...ng mahabang panahon na. Kaya siguro pwede narin na imbes na ang mga fans nalang ang parating iniintindi ng PBA...this time naman for a change eh ang PBA naman ang unawain ng mga fans (na hindi bobo).

fujitsu
02-05-2012, 08:25 PM
:(

coach_of_steel
02-07-2012, 07:27 PM
Well? There's not much to share in the world of Philippine basketball nowadays. Puro nalang recycled tsaka paulit-ulit nalang. Walang pagbabago!

But if you wanna talk about the Asian basketball scene, these past few days, its gotta be about Jeremy Lin of the New York Knicks. The 1st American-born NBA player of Chinese or Taiwanese origin. Jeremy, after languishing in Golden State and in the NBA D-League earlier in his career, had back to back career games of 25 & 28 points in towing his Knicks team to a rare 2- game win streak.

This Harvard graduate had boosted Asian pride once again (after Yao Ming) in the international basketball scene. While an influx of Americans with Filipino lineage and a handful of African imports are taking our local leagues by storm, there's this pure Asian dude creating a gigantic wave IN THE NBA!

genom222
02-07-2012, 11:03 PM
Well? There's not much to share in the world of Philippine basketball nowadays. Puro nalang recycled tsaka paulit-ulit nalang. Walang pagbabago!

But if you wanna talk about the Asian basketball scene, these past few days, its gotta be about Jeremy Lin of the New York Knicks. The 1st American-born NBA player of Chinese or Taiwanese origin. Jeremy, after languishing in Golden State and in the NBA D-League earlier in his career, had back to back career games of 25 & 28 points in towing his Knicks team to a rare 2- game win streak.

This Harvard graduate had boosted Asian pride once again (after Yao Ming) in the international basketball scene. While an influx of Americans with Filipino lineage and a handful of African imports are taking our local leagues by storm, there's this pure Asian dude creating a gigantic wave IN THE NBA!


do you seem him sustaining this kind of performance coach? Or will he flame out as most of us are expecting? there is a reason why two other NBA teams passed on Jeremy Lin. Harvard grad pa pala toh but was he born raised in USA or China?

coach_of_steel
02-08-2012, 12:55 AM
Jeremy Lin's parents are immigrants from Taiwan. He was born and raised in California. Tulad narin sa mga kwento ng mga ordinaryong tao, the kid is living a dream right now and defying all the odds. Kung masu-sustain for a stretch of time or flash in the pan lang, who cares?

Sapat na siguro yung kahit minsan eh nangyari ang ganyang himala sa buhay niya. Kaya isang leksyon din yan sa mga kabataan (at para narin sa mga hindi na ganoon ka-bata) na may tiyaga, malinis ang hangarin at may pananampalataya sa Diyos...keep dreaming and never stop believing. Keep your feet on the ground and keep reaching for the stars. ;)

coach_of_steel
02-08-2012, 01:04 AM
Well? There's not much to share in the world of Philippine basketball nowadays. Puro nalang recycled tsaka paulit-ulit nalang. Walang pagbabago!

But if you wanna talk about the Asian basketball scene, these past few days, its gotta be about Jeremy Lin of the New York Knicks. The 1st American-born NBA player of Chinese or Taiwanese origin. Jeremy, after languishing in Golden State and in the NBA D-League earlier in his career, had back to back career games of 25 & 28 points in towing his Knicks team to a rare 2- game win streak.

This Harvard graduate had boosted Asian pride once again (after Yao Ming) in the international basketball scene. While an influx of Americans with Filipino lineage and a handful of African imports are taking our local leagues by storm, there's this pure Asian dude creating a gigantic wave IN THE NBA!


do you seem him sustaining this kind of performance coach? Or will he flame out as most of us are expecting? there is a reason why two other NBA teams passed on Jeremy Lin. Harvard grad pa pala toh but was he born raised in USA or China?



Hindi porke't 2 other teams passed on a certain player eh yung player na ang may diperensya. More often than not nga eh yung mga decision-makers ng mga teams ang pulpol. You need not look very far to find this out. ;)

The_Big_Cat
02-08-2012, 10:35 AM
Coming soon... Marcio Lassiter of Powerade for Rey Guevarra & Noy Baclao of Petron. Whats ur take on this, Hoops-Scoopers??

KAMPIHAN NA!!!




About 3 years ago nakinabang din ang Talk 'N Text ni MVP sa isang lopsided deal; Kelly Williams and Ryan Reyes of Sta. Lucia in exchange for Yousif Aljamal and Pong Escobal of TNT. The deal was done before the last conference of Sta. Lucia in the PBA. Sonny Barrios was the commissioner who approved the deal. And where is Barrios now? ;D Sabi nga sa AKSYONTV, Kampihan na! Magkakampi na si Barrios at MVP sa SBP.

coach_of_steel
02-08-2012, 06:20 PM
Coming soon... Marcio Lassiter of Powerade for Rey Guevarra & Noy Baclao of Petron. Whats ur take on this, Hoops-Scoopers??

KAMPIHAN NA!!!




About 3 years ago nakinabang din ang Talk 'N Text ni MVP sa isang lopsided deal; Kelly Williams and Ryan Reyes of Sta. Lucia in
exchange for Yousif Aljamal and Pong Escobal of TNT. The deal was done before the last conference of Sta. Lucia in the PBA. Sonny Barrios was the commissioner who approved the deal. And where is Barrios now? ;D Sabi nga sa AKSYONTV, Kampihan na! Magkakampi na si Barrios at MVP sa SBP.


Di ba sa makabago at daang-matuwid na pag-iisip at damdamin ng isang taong busilak ang kalooban...yung mga maling naka-gawian nung nakaraan eh dapat lang na huwag ng ulitin??

Kapag pinatawad ng teacher yung ka-eskwela ng anak mo na nag-cheating nung nakaraan, ang gusto mo bang mangyari eh dapat palampasin narin yung anak mo sakaling mahuling mangopya rin today?

Paano na ang magiging kinabukasan ng mga kabataan natin kung yung ganong klaseng mentalidad ang pai-iralin natin?

Katanggap-tanggap pa kung sasabihin nating nangailangan ng pera or ibinenta or naisahan or nagulangan. Pero parang pabalik na ng dark ages yan kung yung na-cite na reason ang gagawing depensa. It would be a downright terrible shame.

nash_bedista
02-09-2012, 12:53 PM
Sir

What can you say about Mr. Jeremy Lin of NYKnicks considering without the Amare and Melo

they still winning? Your thoughts coach?

coach_of_steel
02-10-2012, 01:06 AM
Sir

What can you say about Mr. Jeremy Lin of NYKnicks considering without the Amare and Melo

they still winning? Your thoughts coach?


He should just keep riding this phenomena. Considering that this kid was in the D-League just a few weeks ago then now this, ikaw na maging Destiny's Child.

Kapag ginusto o langit ang nag-pasya, who's to argue?

This is a totally different story as compared to those na bini-bili na mismo ang panalo at all cost. This one is an act of God.

Joescoundrel
02-10-2012, 08:25 AM
Coach, tingin mo ba dapat na ding tigilan ang D League? Sa sobrang lakas ng NLEX, parang kauumpisa pa lang ng ligang ito magkaka-record na of 10 straight championships ang NLEX.

Normally I would not mind if a team established a dynasty. The NBA actually rode an 8-Peat Celtics Dynasty from the late 50's to most of the 60's in the time of Bill Russell and Bob Cousy. The US NCAA also rode on the 7-Peat of John Wooden's UCLA team anchored on Lew Alcindor and Bill Walton. Even our own UAAP has seen a 7-Peat by the UE Red Warriors. The small-ish NAASCU had a 5-Peat (UNBEATEN) University of Manila at its inception. All these leagues have about 250 combined years in existence. So apparently dynasties are not really the death knell of a league.

But I have serious misgivings about how the D League is starting out. This is not like college ball where year in and year out recruitment may or may not turn in a school's favor. Ateneo will find this out when Greg Slaughter's time is up just as NU will already field AJ Hanson and their new African import to combine with Rey Parks.

Such is not the case with NLEX, the limitless pockets of PLDT can ensure a limitless supply of top Fil-Ams and top amateur talent to make certain Head Coach Boyet Fernandez will always look good in the D League. It might take at least another three conferences for other frnachises to catch up in this aspect. By that time, they still have the actual catching up in terms of basketball systems. So it is not actually far-fetched for NLEX to win the first 10 conference titles. By that time, would any other team still want to compete?

Parang mga liga para sa working professionals 'yan eh, like sa mga banks or law firms or brokerage houses, or call centers. Sa una masaya pa kasi kayo-kayo lang. Tapos may isang magulang na kompanya biglang magha-hire ng "driver" or "messenger" or "clerk" or "apprentice" na dakilang hugot sa lahat ng liga, mga tipong Kieth Agovida or Junel Mendiola or Epoy Jalmasco or Jeff Sanders. Siempre bigla silang lalakas, baka nga mag-champ pa. Later on gumaya na din ang lahat ng ibang kompanya. Suddenly puro hugot na naglalaro. Hindi ba ang panget ng ganun?

Plus let us not forget: the primary rasion d'etre of the D League is the D part, development. I've already said it countless times, there is no development going on in this so-called developmental league. Lahat ng gumagawa mga dati ng gumagawa, mga hindi na kailangan ng development.

So Coach, oras na bang tigilan itong D League na ito?

Joescoundrel
02-10-2012, 08:30 AM
By the way coach, speaking of development, ang galing na ngayon nung Maclean Sabellina. It took him all of six years but at least now he is showing he has arrived as a legit player. It was painful watching him in his first three years with STI. You could see all the raw talent and energy was there, but he was just twisting himself into all sorts of knots on the court. Now he's gotten bigger, stronger, smarter and certainly more forceful as a player.

Mukhang mas hiyang sa iyo si Sabellina kesa kay Coach Vic Ycasiano, haha! Peace tayo, Coach Vic ha... ;D

coach_of_steel
02-10-2012, 10:49 AM
Coach, tingin mo ba dapat na ding tigilan ang D League? Sa sobrang lakas ng NLEX, parang kauumpisa pa lang ng ligang ito magkaka-record na of 10 straight championships ang NLEX.

Normally I would not mind if a team established a dynasty. The NBA actually rode an 8-Peat Celtics Dynasty from the late 50's to most of the 60's in the time of Bill Russell and Bob Cousy. The US NCAA also rode on the 7-Peat of John Wooden's UCLA team anchored on Lew Alcindor and Bill Walton. Even our own UAAP has seen a 7-Peat by the UE Red Warriors. The small-ish NAASCU had a 5-Peat (UNBEATEN) University of Manila at its inception. All these leagues have about 250 combined years in existence. So apparently dynasties are not really the death knell of a league.

But I have serious misgivings about how the D League is starting out. This is not like college ball where year in and year out recruitment may or may not turn in a school's favor. Ateneo will find this out when Greg Slaughter's time is up just as NU will
already field AJ Hanson and their new African import to combine with Rey Parks.

Such is not the case with NLEX, the limitless pockets of PLDT can ensure a limitless supply of top Fil-Ams and top amateur talent to make certain Head Coach Boyet Fernandez will always look good in the D League. It might take at least another three conferences for other frnachises to catch up in this aspect. By that time, they still have the actual catching up in terms of basketball systems. So it is not actually far-fetched for NLEX to win the first 10 conference titles. By that time, would any other team still want to compete?

Parang mga liga para sa working professionals 'yan eh, like sa mga banks or law firms or brokerage houses, or call centers. Sa una masaya pa kasi kayo-kayo lang. Tapos may isang magulang na kompanya biglang magha-hire ng "driver" or "messenger" or "clerk" or "apprentice" na dakilang hugot sa lahat ng liga, mga tipong Kieth Agovida or Junel Mendiola or Epoy Jalmasco or Jeff Sanders. Siempre bigla silang lalakas, baka nga mag-champ pa. Later on gumaya na din ang lahat ng ibang kompanya. Suddenly
puro hugot na naglalaro. Hindi ba ang panget ng ganun?

Plus let us not forget: the primary rasion d'etre of the D League is the D part, development. I've already said it countless times, there is no development going on in this so-called developmental league. Lahat ng gumagawa mga dati ng gumagawa, mga hindi na kailangan ng development.

So Coach, oras na bang tigilan itong D League na ito?




Well, during the VERY FIRST meeting namin before the inaugural D-League tournament began, the VERY FIRST concern that i raised to Comm. Salud was about the drafting system. His reply: tsaka nalang yan. Wala munang drafting.

Kaya eto na ngayon ang D-League. Right after winning the 1st conference, they were able to add RR Garcia, Garvo Lanete, Dave Marcelo & Eman Monfort into their fold. Alam mo sir, of all the teams in the local amateur commercial circuit, my team is the last team standing and oldest carry-over from the PBL. Hindi man kami nagcha-champion all these years, champion kami sa pag manage ng team kaya tumagal kami ng ganito.

If you'll recall, one team's run of 7 straight (you forgot this dynasty kitam) PBL championships sent a lot of moneyed teams (including an SMC team) packing their bags and disbanding their teams that ultimately killed that 28 year old league.

Should the PBA D-League close shop? Kapag wala ng sumali eh eventually it will die a natural death. From 11 teams nga last conference, i wouldn't be surprised if the roster should dwindle by 3-4 teams. As for my team, we're too good at this. Basta player development and brand marketing lang ang initial target namin until such time na mag-Pro na sina Ellis, Hodge & Abueva.

Teams like Maxbond (disbanded after 1conference) and Cebuana, sumasabay pa ng gastusan sa NLEX eh olats din naman. Those 2 teams eh nakipag-sabayan din sa NLEX sa pagpapa-sweldo ng under the table (over the agreed upon individual salary cap) but all they've prove is that may pera sila and nothing else. Parating nasa alaala ko si Mr. Cecilio Pedro ng Hapee Toothpaste. Isa sa pinaka-mayamang negosyante/team owner siya dito sa Pilipinas. Pero nung napuno na, ayon, dinisband niya ang kanyang basketball team.

Marami kasi sa atin ang short-minded kaya nakakalusot/tino-tolerate ang ganyang mga unfair practices makapang-lamang lang sa kapwa. As for, coach Boyet Fernandez, pogi lang naman siguro siya sa mga bossing niya (at yun lang naman ang supposed to be mahalaga diba) tsaka silid lang ng silid ng mga bonuses sa bulsa habang may nagpapa-mudmod ng pera. Coach Boyet is a nice guy and deserves all the blessings that is going his way right now.

But as far as i am concerned, everytime my Boracay Rum team steps on the floor against NLEX...ITS JUST A TUNE UP OR PRACTICE GAME. I wouldn't lose any sleep at all even if they massacre my team by a hundred points. Dapat nga yung mga teams na tatambakan ng NLEX by more than 25 points eh bigyan din nila ng bonus. Pampalubag-loob sa kahihiyan. ;)

coach_of_steel
02-11-2012, 03:49 PM
Jeremy Lin dropped 38 against the Lakers today. Susmaryosep! Destiny's Child.

mighty_lion
02-11-2012, 06:33 PM
Jeremy Lin dropped 38 against the Lakers today. Susmaryosep! Destiny's Child.


Lin is averaging 28.5 points per game in his 4 NBA career game as a "starter". The highest by far by NBA record.

Lin >> Jordan, Abdul Jabar, Wiltchamberlain, Kobe, AI, Hehe.

Kidding aside, the kid is a trending topic in FB and twitter. If All star voting started today Lin might have been first player to earn most number of votes in all-star voting. Imagine the whole China backing him up via online votes. ;D

coach_of_steel
02-12-2012, 04:29 AM
Jeremy Lin dropped 38 against the Lakers today. Susmaryosep! Destiny's Child.


Lin is averaging 28.5 points per game in his 4 NBA career game as a "starter". The highest by far by NBA record.

Lin >> Jordan, Abdul Jabar, Wiltchamberlain, Kobe, AI, Hehe.

Kidding aside, the kid is a trending topic in FB and twitter. If All star voting started today Lin might have been first player to earn most number of votes in all-star voting. Imagine the whole China backing him up via online votes. ;D



The kid is Taiwanese. But im pretty sure a lot of people from Mainland China wouldn't mind voting for him too assuming the all-star voting isn't done yet.

But my gut feel says that David Stern might pull some strings (a player might sustain an injury between now and all-star weekend) to at least insert Lin in the Rookie vs Sophomore game. Sayang din yung business na mage-generate. ;)

mighty_lion
02-12-2012, 10:34 AM
^ I feel the same too coach. If Lin continue to perform like that at least for another week, Nike and Adidas will go hunt this kid for a long-term contract. Its been a while since they had Yao as icon in marketing sporting goods. Lin will be easy to sell in China even if he is Taiwanese.

coach_of_steel
02-12-2012, 10:45 AM
^ I feel the same too coach. If Lin continue to perform like that at least for another week, Nike and Adidas will go hunt this kid for a long-term contract. Its been a while since they had Yao as icon in marketing sporting goods. Lin will be easy to sell in China even if he is Taiwanese.


I read on Wikipedia that he already got a 3-year deal (for little money as compared to King James, the Black Mamba or KD35, im sure) from Nike since last year when he was still Golden State. You've got to hand it to Nike for being very creative & steadfast in its marketing gameplans.

coach_of_steel
02-12-2012, 01:54 PM
Rest In Peace Whitney Houston - the Diva of my era.

Joescoundrel
02-13-2012, 08:31 AM
Naalala ko Coach 'yang sinasabi mong team na naka-7 Peat, that'd be Harbour Centre of the old PBL. I'm not sure if Harbour's dominance was the real straw that broke the PBL camel's back, although the reports that reached us had fingers pointed in the PBL Leadeship's direction. Whether it was the senior media people, the Solar coverage team, the team managers and the team owners, it seems almost everyone and his brother put majority of the blame right at the doorstep of the PBL Commissioner's Office. I recall these same people were so exasperated at the "abandonment" of the PBL by its own Leadership Team that they had to press Mr Ding Camua of Pharex to take the lead just to pull off the very last conference of the PBL, the one won by Coach Ato Agustin, Jimbo Aquino and Excel Roof. Seeing as how Jean Alabanza, formerly of Ascof, is now with your team, I think you can ask him his thoughts on what realy and finally brought the PBL down, quite apart from the dominance of Harbour Centre. I thought it was not really fair to be blaming the PBL Leadership then, since Chino Trinidad, Butch Maniego and Tommy Ong worked hard to keep the league going even when the second-to-the-last conference saw only five teams competing.

Coach, what steps would you have taken to keep the old PBL going if you had been Commissioner?

coach_of_steel
02-13-2012, 10:12 AM
Naalala ko Coach 'yang sinasabi mong team na naka-7 Peat, that'd be Harbour Centre of the old PBL. I'm not sure if Harbour's dominance was the real straw that broke the PBL camel's back, although the reports that reached us had fingers pointed in the PBL Leadeship's direction. Whether it was the senior media people, the Solar coverage team, the team managers and the team owners, it seems almost everyone and his brother put majority of the blame right at the doorstep of the PBL Commissioner's Office. I recall these same people were so exasperated at the "abandonment" of the PBL by its own Leadership Team that they had to press Mr Ding Camua of Pharex to take the lead just to pull off the very last conference of the PBL, the one won by Coach Ato Agustin, Jimbo Aquino and Excel Roof. Seeing as how Jean Alabanza, formerly of Ascof, is now with your team, I think you can ask him his thoughts on what realy and finally brought the PBL down, quite apart from the dominance of Harbour Centre. I thought it was not really fair to be blaming the PBL Leadership then, since Chino Trinidad, Butch Maniego and Tommy Ong worked hard to keep the league going even when the second-to-the-last conference saw only five teams competing.

Coach, what steps would you have taken to keep the old PBL going if you had been Commissioner?


As far as the PBL is concerned, whatever Jean Alabanza knew, i should know better. We're the last team standing in the PBL, remember? Let me ask you a question instead. Do you think teams like Hapee, Magnolia and Toyota Otis would've left the league assuming they won at least 1 championship each in the PBL's final years (between 2007-2009. these teams were all gone by 2010. the year wherein pharex and i put up 2 teams each in a desperate move to save the PBL)??

In your ending statement, you stated that its not fair to be blaming the PBL Leadership of Chino Trinidad, Butch Maniego & Tommy Ong since they worked so hard. Well, if thats the case, where, in your opinion should we cast the blame for the PBL's demise?

Even Cebuana Lhuillier came in with a bang in 2006 to add another solid franchise in the PBL membership roster. Sayang nga since you've got Magnolia, Harbour Centre, Hapee, Cebuana Lhuillier, Toyota Otis, my team, and later on, Pharex in 2008.

If i were the PBL Commisioner then....i would've tried to keep all the members happy or at least satisfied. I would've made sure that each team has a chance of winning a championship. I would've came up with a formula to ensure a balanced line-up for all the teams.

My team suffered 1 of the greatest injustice in PBL history, did you know? We were a back-to-square-one team in the 2006-2007 season therefore i had no other recourse but rely on my good basketball eyes and instinct by building through the dispersal & rookie draft (2nd runner-up agad kami in my very 1st conference back). My players then included JR Quinahan, Ronjay Buenafe, Nestor David ( mula sa dispersal ng Montana Pawnshop & Granny Goose teams) and my rookies naman were Elmer Espiritu, Jorel Canizares, Jason Ballesteros & Jim Viray.

Nung sumali ang Pharex at ang Lina Group nung 2008, yung mga players naman ng Cebuana Lhuillier( na-disbarred yata by the Commissioner's Office) at ng Sista(formerly Welcoat) ang idi-disperse to accomodate the newcomers nga. But ang nangyari, the Lina Group came to terms with Sista including all their players kaya yung mga players nalang ng Cebuana ang naiwang madi-disperse. And did you know what the commissioner's office came up with in a knee-jerk solution? Since "guest team" ang status ng team ko from 2006-2009, that day, they dispersed my players to the other teams instead. Ni-limas yung mga bits and pieces na unti-unti kong binuo at pinag-hirapan at pinag-tiyagaan i-train.

I suffered 2 last-placed finishes that season (2007-2008) and if that weren't enough, being a guest team, we were also to pick LAST in the 2008 rookie draft. Good thing there is a God coz with the last pick in tne 1st round of the 2008 PBL Rookie Draft, we
got PAUL LEE, and 3 straight 2nd Runner-Up finishes before the PBL closed-shop.

james_ty
02-14-2012, 11:18 AM
Coach, what's your opinion on Commissioner Trinidad concentrating more on his TV broadcasting career than his duties as PBL Commissioner? Chino was often not seen at the games as Butch Maniego and Tommy Ong ran the day-to-day operations of the league.

coach_of_steel
02-14-2012, 11:35 AM
Coach, what's your opinion on Commissioner Trinidad concentrating more on his TV broadcasting career than his duties as PBL Commissioner? Chino was often not seen at the games as Butch Maniego and Tommy Ong ran the day-to-day operations of the league.


As a coach during the PBL days, the attendance of the league commissioner during actual games wasn't really a concern for me personally. I don't know about the team owners or board representatives sentiments about it though. But for me, as a coach, i couldn't really care less. As you've stated, Messrs. Tommy Ong & Butch Maniego were there all the time, as were Ramil Cruz and Ka Levi of the Technical or officiating group.

Even in the NBA, im sure Comm. David Stern couldn't possibly have been present in all the games.

animo
02-15-2012, 09:24 AM
Sir

What can you say about Mr. Jeremy Lin of NYKnicks considering without the Amare and Melo

they still winning? Your thoughts coach?


He should just keep riding this phenomena. Considering that this kid was in the D-League just a few weeks ago then now this, ikaw na maging Destiny's Child.

Kapag ginusto o langit ang nag-pasya, who's to argue?

This is a totally different story as compared to those na bini-bili na mismo ang panalo at all cost. This one is an act of God.



one thing that is quite obvious to me about Jeremy Lin's phenomena is
alot of so called basketball experts/scouts failed see a diamond just under their noses.
tama si iron coach... this is an act of God. God paved the way for Jeremy to get in at the right time... for the right team.

mighty_lion
02-15-2012, 01:51 PM
Another sensational game for Jeremy Lin. Another come from behind win savored by a game winning shot.

http://i.minus.com/iSweIaDaG3OfS.gif

According to reports this is the first sell-out game in Toronto stadium this season... because fans, mostly with chinese lineage, went to see Jeremy Lin. Almost 95% of Toronto fans cheered for Lin when he hit that gamewinning basket. ;D

coach_of_steel
02-15-2012, 04:54 PM
Sir

What can you say about Mr. Jeremy Lin of NYKnicks considering without the Amare and Melo

they still winning? Your thoughts coach?


He should just keep riding this phenomena. Considering that this kid was in the D-League just a few weeks ago then now this, ikaw na maging Destiny's Child.
Kapag ginusto o langit ang nag-pasya, who's to argue?

This is a totally different story as compared to those na bini-bili na mismo ang panalo at all cost. This one is an act of God.



one thing that is quite obvious to me about Jeremy Lin's phenomena is
alot of so called basketball experts/scouts failed see a diamond just under their noses.
tama si iron coach... this is an act of God. God paved the way for Jeremy to get in at the right time... for the right team.


Hey Scoopers! If we'd all just care or be attentive a bit, you'll notice God's hands touching and bieng more active than ever in our midst whether it be in natural disasters, political and in sports. It is just all over.

Typhoon Sendong happened just weeks ago but its the Negros Oriental earthquake thats hugging the limelight in between the impeachment drama, Iggy Arroyo's tele-novela, why, we might have already forgotten that former president Gloria is in detention. Sunud-sunod, patung-patong.

In local sports, God touched the hands of El Granada for 10 games to push 8th seeded & low-budgeted Powerade team over top-rank & expensive B-Meg and spoil the debut party of the country's best coach & SMC's latest treasure in Tim Cone. The next victim of the lowly Tigers was PBA coaching legend Yeng Guiao in 1 of the PBA's biggest series upset.

The anticipated Pacquiao-Mayweather tussle will finally NOT push through, and with Pacman's looming retirement from the ring, maybe we can only witness that dream fight on PSP in the future.

After the NBA lockout, and now Jeremy Lin showing off the world's overpaid athletes. Act of God?? Hmm.

animo
02-15-2012, 05:35 PM
Another sensational game for Jeremy Lin. Another come from behind win savored by a game winning shot.

http://i.minus.com/iSweIaDaG3OfS.gif

According to reports this is the first sell-out game in Toronto stadium this season... because fans, mostly with chinese lineage, went to see Jeremy Lin. Almost 95% of Toronto fans cheered for Lin when he hit that gamewinning basket. ;D



do you know kung ipapalabas sa espn or local channel?

coach_of_steel
02-15-2012, 06:06 PM
Another sensational game for Jeremy Lin. Another come from behind win savored by a game winning shot.

http://i.minus.com/iSweIaDaG3OfS.gif

According to reports this is the first sell-out game in Toronto stadium this season... because fans, mostly with chinese lineage, went to see Jeremy Lin. Almost 95% of Toronto fans cheered for Lin when he hit that gamewinning basket. ;D



do you know kung ipapalabas sa espn or local channel?
.

No idea sir. Pinagtiya-tiyagaan ko nalang sa Youtube. ;)

easter
02-15-2012, 06:42 PM
Hey Scoopers! If we'd all just care or be attentive a bit, you'll notice God's hands touching and bieng more active than ever in our midst whether it be in natural disasters, political and in sports. It is just all over.

Typhoon Sendong happened just weeks ago but its the Negros Oriental earthquake thats hugging the limelight in between the impeachment drama, Iggy Arroyo's tele-novela, why, we might have already forgotten that former president Gloria is in detention. Sunud-sunod, patung-patong.

In local sports, God touched the hands of El Granada for 10 games to push 8th seeded & low-budgeted Powerade team over top-rank & expensive B-Meg and spoil the debut party of the country's best coach & SMC's latest treasure in Tim Cone. The next victim of the lowly Tigers was PBA coaching legend Yeng Guiao in 1 of the PBA's biggest series upset.

The anticipated Pacquiao-Mayweather tussle will finally NOT push through, and with Pacman's looming retirement from the ring, maybe we can only witness that dream fight on PSP in the future.

After the NBA lockout, and now Jeremy Lin showing off the world's overpaid athletes. Act of God?? Hmm.


Coach don't forget Tim Tebow's incredible run and the John 3:16 stats he had in his last win.

316 yards passing
averaged 31.6 yards per pass
31.6 - final quarter-hour television rating for the Broncos-Steelers

John 3:16 - For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

animo
02-15-2012, 08:40 PM
Sir

What can you say about Mr. Jeremy Lin of NYKnicks considering without the Amare and Melo

they still winning? Your thoughts coach?


He should just keep riding this phenomena. Considering that this kid was in the D-League just a few weeks ago then now this, ikaw na maging Destiny's Child.
Kapag ginusto o langit ang nag-pasya, who's to argue?

This is a totally different story as compared to those na bini-bili na mismo ang panalo at all cost. This one is an act of God.



one thing that is quite obvious to me about Jeremy Lin's phenomena is
alot of so called basketball experts/scouts failed see a diamond just under their noses.
tama si iron coach... this is an act of God. God paved the way for Jeremy to get in at the right time... for the right team.


Hey Scoopers! If we'd all just care or be attentive a bit, you'll notice God's hands touching and bieng more active than ever in our midst whether it be in natural disasters, political and in sports. It is just all over.

Typhoon Sendong happened just weeks ago but its the Negros Oriental earthquake thats hugging the limelight in between the impeachment drama, Iggy Arroyo's tele-novela, why, we might have already forgotten that former president Gloria is in detention. Sunud-sunod, patung-patong.

In local sports, God touched the hands of El Granada for 10 games to push 8th seeded & low-budgeted Powerade team over top-rank & expensive B-Meg and spoil the debut party of the country's best coach & SMC's latest treasure in Tim Cone. The next victim of the lowly Tigers was PBA coaching legend Yeng Guiao in 1 of the PBA's biggest series upset.

The anticipated Pacquiao-Mayweather tussle will finally NOT push through, and with Pacman's looming retirement from the ring, maybe we can only witness that dream fight on PSP in the future.

After the NBA lockout, and now Jeremy Lin showing off the world's overpaid athletes. Act of God?? Hmm.


dagdag ko lang
i heard Paquiao is regularly reading the Holy Bible. infact, he was appointed by cbcp as ambassador of "something about the bible".

coach_of_steel
02-15-2012, 09:21 PM
Pinagbabalik-loob sa Diyos na ang lahat ng tao marahil. Yung mga nakaka-alala pinagpapala. Yung mga nakakalimot binabagyo, nililindol, nai-impeach at hindi nagwawagi. I say we pray.

easter
02-16-2012, 06:04 AM
^ Sa lahat ng sinabi mo coach sa thread na ito. Ito ang pinakatama! :)

MonL
02-16-2012, 08:01 AM
Pinagbabalik-loob sa Diyos na ang lahat ng tao marahil. Yung mga nakaka-alala pinagpapala. Yung mga nakakalimot binabagyo, nililindol, nai-impeach at hindi nagwawagi. I say we pray.

Ikinanta at isinabuhay din yan ni M.C.Hammer. :)

coach_of_steel
02-16-2012, 11:44 AM
Pinagbabalik-loob sa Diyos na ang lahat ng tao marahil. Yung mga nakaka-alala pinagpapala. Yung mga nakakalimot binabagyo, nililindol, nai-impeach at hindi nagwawagi. I say we pray.

Ikinanta at isinabuhay din yan ni M.C.Hammer. :)


Eh rapper of my era rin yan eh. ;) Just like Andrew E

red_engr1987
02-16-2012, 02:15 PM
ironcoach wala pa ba producer who might want to bring you on the air (radio program), sarap ng discussion dito sa thread mo sayang yung iba na di nakakabasa sa gameface forum HOOPS SCOOPS. Any idea among the group how much it will cost to have a radio show tayo na lang mag produce the program. I am sure there's a lot of contributing writers here and also marketing guys to solicit advertisers.

I dream someday ironcoach if not in the radio you will do this in TV, so aside from coaching hosting a TV talk show all about basketball :)

coach_of_steel
02-16-2012, 03:58 PM
ironcoach wala pa ba producer who might want to bring you on the air (radio program), sarap ng discussion dito sa thread mo sayang yung iba na di nakakabasa sa gameface forum HOOPS SCOOPS. Any idea among the group how much it will cost to have a radio show tayo na lang mag produce the program. I am sure there's a lot of contributing writers here and also marketing guys to solicit advertisers.

I dream someday ironcoach if not in the radio you will do this in TV, so aside from coaching hosting a TV talk show all about basketball :)


You're flattering me naman, sir. Baka mag-backfire din yan coz i can be too frank and honest at marami akong masagasaan along the way. But ur right na parang marami ngang sumusubaybay dito sa thread ko. My basis is the number of Views and the rate ng frequency. Umabot na nga ng more than a thousand views in a week ito.

Tapos yung thread naman sa PinoyExchange na una kong sinalihan tumamlay naman ng husto. I now realize that it is really all about me pala...and certainly not about them.

coach_of_steel
02-16-2012, 08:53 PM
Was at James Yap's birthday bash last night at napuno ng nostalgia when i bumped into players that i've had shared memorable moments with earlier in my career. PJ Simon, Reynel Hugnatan, John Ferriols and i were together with the National Team in the 2002 Jones Cup in Taipei. Dondon Hontiveros, Jeffrey Cariaso, Wynne Arboleda and i were together naman at Tanduay in the PBA back in 2000-2001.

And of course 1 of my main task during those time was to be surrogate father/mentor to James right after we were able to recruit him to play for UE. I can fondly remember that when 9/11 happened in New York back in 2001, it was only James and me infront of the TV set inside the locker room at Tanduay Gym. At first, i thought what we were watching was a movie.

So yun ang isa sa mga fondest moments that i had with James. He's 30 years old na samantalang kailan lang he was only 18. Time flies indeed. Well, happy birthday James. You have travelled very far. Cheers!

coach_of_steel
02-17-2012, 12:35 AM
My Boracay Rum D-League team had 2 tune up games against the NU Bulldogs and 2 also vs FEU these past couple of weeks. The tune up games against the 2 UAAP teams ended in splits. We managed to lead NU by more than 20 pts in our 1st game then they came back to whup us by 10 the 2nd time around.

We lost to FEU by 2 points 2 weeks ago then beat them by 9 yesterday (our lead went up to as high as 23 in the 3rd qtr). Both teams are quite impressive and i should say that these 2 teams could give Ateneo a run for their money in the UAAP this season.

Oh, by the way. We'll be having a tune up game against Ateneo naman this Saturday then UST next week. The feeling is so weird for me going up against these UAAP teams since im coaching a PBA D-League team this time around. Parang kailan lang kalaban ko ang mga teams na yan pero ngayon hanggang tune up games nalang.

Name ng school ang nakalagay sa harap ng uniporme nila while yung sa mga players ko naman eh brand ng alak ang nakalagay.
;)

gameFaceAdmin
02-17-2012, 07:02 AM
ironcoach wala pa ba producer who might want to bring you on the air (radio program), sarap ng discussion dito sa thread mo sayang yung iba na di nakakabasa sa gameface forum HOOPS SCOOPS. Any idea among the group how much it will cost to have a radio show tayo na lang mag produce the program. I am sure there's a lot of contributing writers here and also marketing guys to solicit advertisers.

I dream someday ironcoach if not in the radio you will do this in TV, so aside from coaching hosting a TV talk show all about basketball :)


You're flattering me naman, sir. Baka mag-backfire din yan coz i can be too frank and honest at marami akong masagasaan along the way. But ur right na parang marami ngang sumusubaybay dito sa thread ko. My basis is the number of Views and the rate ng frequency. Umabot na nga ng more than a thousand views in a week ito.

Tapos yung thread naman sa PinoyExchange na una kong sinalihan tumamlay naman ng husto. I now realize that it is really all about me pala...and certainly not about them.


I think it is a good combination of a quality poster like you Ironcoach and also the replies from smart members from gameface that produce the intellectual and interesting discussions in this thread. If you compare the quality of posts here in gameface to the posts in pinoyexchange, they are miles apart.

We might have gameface radio season 2 this year coach. We are now in talks with another radio station.

coach_of_steel
02-17-2012, 08:34 AM
ironcoach wala pa ba producer who might want to bring you on the air (radio program), sarap ng discussion dito sa thread mo sayang yung iba na di nakakabasa sa gameface forum HOOPS SCOOPS. Any idea among the group how much it will cost to have a radio show tayo na lang mag produce the program. I am sure there's a lot of contributing writers here and also marketing guys to solicit advertisers.

I dream someday ironcoach if not in the radio you will do this in TV, so aside from coaching hosting a TV talk show all about basketball :)


You're flattering me naman, sir. Baka mag-backfire din yan coz i can be too frank and honest at marami akong masagasaan along the way. But ur right na parang marami ngang sumusubaybay dito sa thread ko. My basis is the number of Views and the rate ng frequency. Umabot na nga ng more than a thousand views in a week ito.

Tapos yung thread naman sa PinoyExchange na una kong sinalihan tumamlay naman ng husto. I now realize that it is really all about me pala...and certainly not about them.


I think it is a good combination of a quality poster like you Ironcoach and also the replies from smart members from gameface that produce the intellectual and interesting discussions in this thread. If you compare the quality of posts here in gameface to the posts in pinoyexchange, they are miles apart.

We might have gameface radio season 2 this year coach. We are now in talks with another radio station.


Which radio station and on what time slot carried your season 1? When was this, sir?

coach_of_steel
02-17-2012, 08:49 AM
Personally, it'll be my 1st time to coach against Greg Slaughter tomorrow. I can now gauge and see for myself what i could've (would've) done to defend or play against him(and Kiefer Ravena) assuming that i was still coaching in the UAAP last season.

It'll be an opportunity for me to find out if my former UAAP team really had a chance of winning against the then 3-time defending champions. Or did i (and Paul Lee) bail out just in time to avoid further disappointment and humiliation?

coach_of_steel
02-17-2012, 09:16 AM
Ang hindi na napanood (mapapanood) ng tao eh yung backcourt tandem sana of Paul Lee and Roi Sumang in the UAAP last season. In our last game together, we outscored the NU Bulldogs by 30 pts in just 1 quarter. Paul & Roi were just dazzling. Parehong "Angas Ng Tondo". Pizza at popcorn nalang ang kulang.

red_engr1987
02-17-2012, 02:20 PM
Personally, it'll be my 1st time to coach against Greg Slaughter tomorrow. I can now gauge and see for myself what i could've (would've) done to defend or play against him(and Kiefer Ravena) assuming that i was still coaching in the UAAP last season.

It'll be an opportunity for me to find out if my former UAAP team really had a chance of winning against the then 3-time defending champions. Or did i (and Paul Lee) bail out just in time to avoid further disappointment and humiliation?


ironcoach - ito yung mga topic na gustong pakinggan ng mga follower mo, UAAP basketball fans and maybe mga coaching staff. One of the reasons why they are here in your thread is your honesty and being frank. Its always been straight answers from you, down to earth and candid. Ok din yun articulation mo and debate meron sense at marami kaming lesson na natutunan sa yo. Again my respect to our former Head Coach..... still a sweet memories when we shoot down FEU twice in the F4 and grounded the ADMU BE in Game 2 UAAP MBT Finals.

coach_of_steel
02-17-2012, 03:18 PM
Personally, it'll be my 1st time to coach against Greg Slaughter tomorrow. I can now gauge and see for myself what i could've (would've) done to defend or play against him(and Kiefer Ravena) assuming that i was still coaching in the UAAP last season.

It'll be an opportunity for me to find out if my former UAAP team really had a chance of winning against the then 3-time defending champions. Or did i (and Paul Lee) bail out just in time to avoid further disappointment and humiliation?


ironcoach - ito yung mga topic na gustong pakinggan ng mga follower mo, UAAP basketball fans and maybe mga coaching staff. One of the reasons why they are here in your thread is your honesty and being frank. Its always been straight answers from you,
down to earth and candid. Ok din yun articulation mo and debate meron sense at marami kaming lesson na natutunan sa yo. Again my respect to our former Head Coach..... still a sweet memories when we shoot down FEU twice in the F4 and grounded the ADMU BE in Game 2 UAAP MBT Finals.


Thank you for remembering, sir. I now have mixed feelings tuwing napag-uusapan or napapag- kwentuhan uli ang nakaraan. Im usually caught in between "parang kailan lang" and "parang ang tagal na nun".

Pero salamat narin sa mga tulad mo na patuloy paring rume-respeto at pinagkaka-halagahan at itinu-turing na matamis na alaala yung panandaliang panahon na naging bahagi tayo ng bawat-isa. Kahit na sabihin pang "united we stand, but divided we fall" yata ang motto niyo doon.

coach_of_steel
02-18-2012, 08:47 PM
Final score in our tune-game against Ateneo today: Boracay Rum 64 Ateneo 61. We got lucky towards the end of the ballgame. We were down by 7 pts in the last 3 mins but my boys didn't give up. It took a lot of team effort especially on defense to be able to limit Greg Slaughter, Nico Salva, Kiefer Ravena & Ateneo to 61 pts.

But im sure we just caught them at the beginning of their preparations for the UAAP and given 5 more months of training, the outcome would definitely not be the same anymore...unless my guys would also work their butt off every single day.

gfy
02-18-2012, 10:07 PM
^ Nice game. I have to say, Coach, that outside sniping by Acibar, Hermosisima and one or two of your guys was the difference. Ateneo didn't have this.

coach_of_steel
02-19-2012, 10:01 AM
[quote=gfy ]
^ Nice game. I have to say, Coach, that outside sniping by Acibar, Hermosisima and one or two of your guys was the difference. Ateneo didn't have this.
[/quote

You were there? I wonder who could you be? You can't possiblly be coach Norman, can you? :)

Well, at least its good to have somebody corroborating my storiea here in Hoop Scoops. ;) Para may pagpapa-tunay na yung mga kine-kwento ko rito eh hindi pawang mga imbento lamang.

gameFaceAdmin
02-19-2012, 04:48 PM
ironcoach wala pa ba producer who might want to bring you on the air (radio program), sarap ng discussion dito sa thread mo sayang yung iba na di nakakabasa sa gameface forum HOOPS SCOOPS. Any idea among the group how much it will cost to have a radio show tayo na lang mag produce the program. I am sure there's a lot of contributing writers here and also marketing guys to solicit advertisers.

I dream someday ironcoach if not in the radio you will do this in TV, so aside from coaching hosting a TV talk show all about basketball :)


You're flattering me naman, sir. Baka mag-backfire din yan coz i can be too frank and honest at marami akong masagasaan along the way. But ur right na parang marami ngang sumusubaybay dito sa thread ko. My basis is the number of Views and the rate ng frequency. Umabot na nga ng more than a thousand views in a week ito.

Tapos yung thread naman sa PinoyExchange na una kong sinalihan tumamlay naman ng husto. I now realize that it is really all about me pala...and certainly not about them.


I think it is a good combination of a quality poster like you Ironcoach and also the replies from smart members from gameface that produce the intellectual and interesting discussions in this thread. If you compare the quality of posts here in gameface to the posts in pinoyexchange, they are miles apart.

We might have gameface radio season 2 this year coach. We are now in talks with another radio station.


Which radio station and on what time slot carried your season 1? When was this, sir?


U 92.3 FM 2 seasons ago before the MVP group took over the radio station. If you want to listen to the recorded programs, you can access the different episodes by going to the menu button on GAMEFACE RADIO.

coach_of_steel
02-20-2012, 09:26 AM
After almost 2 years, im back in Bora (the island not the rum) once again for some R & R for my tired soul. Its just gonna be 3 days of thrillin and chillin before i buckle down to work all over again for the 2nd conference of the PBA D-League slated to begin 3 weeks from now.

Bumped into some staff of the NLEX team last night & i was informed that the whole team is here. For sure its part of their bonus for winning the recently concluded conference of the D-League. Well, with the kind of line-up that the PBA D-League top honchos allowed them to have, if i were the NLEX team manager....i would've made reservations with the airline & hotel even before the season started.

Well, before the next conference, im gonna announce to my players that if we make it to the finals, our bonus will be a trip to Hong Kong. And for winning the championship, it will be a trip to the moon. ;)

coach_of_steel
02-21-2012, 12:34 PM
These recent episodes in our countriy's basketball-related dramas have brought to the surface a lot of the home-cooked cultures that i've been driving home in this thread.

The economics factor that have swept across our 10-team, 6 entitities professional league and the buying-in and selling-out controversies that had hounded it.

The no money-no honey formula that has been the deadliest weapon unleashed in the 2 premiere collegiate leagues in the country.

The enigma that is Marcus Douthit...Patriot or Import. How a Filipino somtimes isn't a Filipino in the country where he swore his allegiance to.

Corporate rivalries spilling over to the hardcourt.

Thank God for giving the fans & worshippers of this basketball-crazy nation the gift of having a palate that isn't choosy or
meticulous. Because whatever they cook up or however they serve it...we eat it. Burp!! ;)

emenk
02-21-2012, 06:11 PM
Coach, may balita kayo kung ano yun offer kay Jeron Teng para pumasok sa DLSU?

If the Ateneo coaching job will be offered to you next year, will you accept it?

coach_of_steel
02-21-2012, 08:20 PM
Coach, may balita kayo kung ano yun offer kay Jeron Teng para pumasok sa DLSU?

If the Ateneo coaching job will be offered to you next year, will you accept it?


I wouldn't have the exact details on the Jeron Teng deal but for starters, its already common knowledge that his dad, former SMC player Alvin Teng, has been accomodated with a coaching staff job with 1 of the SMC teams (with the SMC/ABL team i presume). So i suppose you've also have to input Alvin's salary + Jeron's take-home pay(including the signing bonus assuming there is one) into the equation. It should easily fetch more than P5-6M. If he's worth it or not, only time will tell.

At the rate some schools supporters are burning cash to snare marquee players, personally, i would've dangled at least P3M (in cash and in kind) to enlist his services to play for the school that i used to handle (with my benefactors resources, of course).

Would i accept the head coaching job at Ateneo if offered?? It would be an honor(and a great challenge).

coach_of_steel
02-21-2012, 10:47 PM
Coach, may balita kayo kung ano yun offer kay Jeron Teng para pumasok sa DLSU?

If the Ateneo coaching job will be offered to you next year, will you accept it?


I wouldn't have the exact details on the Jeron Teng deal but for starters, its already common knowledge that his dad, former SMC player Alvin Teng, has been accomodated with a coaching staff job with 1 of the SMC teams (with the SMC/ABL team i presume). So i suppose you've also have to input Alvin's salary + Jeron's take-home pay(including the signing bonus assuming there is one) into the equation. It should easily fetch more than P5-6M. If he's worth it or not, only time will tell.

At the rate some schools supporters are burning cash to snare marquee players, personally, i would've dangled at least P3M (in cash and in kind) to enlist his services to play for the school that i used to handle (with my benefactors resources, of course).

Would i accept the head coaching job at Ateneo if offered?? It would be an honor(and a great challenge).



Just to add: maybe a better question is not whether i'll accept an offer to coach Ateneo or not but rather if they'll even consider me for the post. Seems like they'd rather select a replacement for coach Black from among a short-list of ADMU alumni candidates. I sincerely doubt if my name is even in their radar.

highfidelity
02-22-2012, 04:05 PM
Tanong lang po coach, do you take note of so-called "advanced statistics" such as PER, usage rate, offensive/defensive win shares and the like?

coach_of_steel
02-22-2012, 06:55 PM
Tanong lang po coach, do you take note of so-called "advanced statistics" such as PER, usage rate, offensive/defensive win shares and the like?


We (with the aid of my former staff) used to keep track of that when i was still coaching in the UAAP. But in the newly-formed PBA D-League where im strutting my wares nowadays, hindi pa umaabot sa punto na ini-implement o inaasahan kong makakatulong yan sa mga scouting reports namin. Masyado pang bata at hilaw ang organization ng liga para pag-aksayahan ng pagod at panahon.

coach_of_steel
02-22-2012, 10:10 PM
Ahh!! Last night in Bora. This island is really 1 God-given treasure to the Philippines. Sa hirap at sa lahat ng ka-kapusan ng ating bayan at mga kababayan, biniyayaan parin tayo ng isang Boracay Island ng tadhana.

Sana habang may panahon pa eh mai-preserve ng maigi itong lugar na ito. At sana gawing affordable na marating, matuklasan at mapakinabangan ito ng nakahihigit sa ating mga kababayan.

Ang tanong nalang ngayon eh kung papaano.

Joescoundrel
02-23-2012, 07:56 AM
Coach, if you were to form the Smart Gilas II national team, and you were asked to form a pool of 30 current players, who would make it to your Top 30 and why?

coach_of_steel
02-23-2012, 09:05 AM
Coach, if you were to form the Smart Gilas II national team, and you were asked to form a pool of 30 current players, who would make it to your Top 30 and why?


Hindi ba masyadong marami ang 30-man pool? Anyway, since yan ang question mo, here goes:

C - Douthit, Slaughter, Fajardo, Thoss, Taulava, Pennisi
PF- Williams, De Ocampo, Pingris, Hodge, Aguilar, Quinahan
SF- Santos, Lutz, Canaleta, Raymundo, Ellis, Borboran
SG- Yap, David, Lassiter, Parks, Norwood, Caguioa
PG - Lee, Cabagnot, Castro, Tenorio, Casio, Miller

Why: i believe this 30-man pool are the best choices to form a National team from. Height, experience, shooting, defense, smarts, youth, all the ingredients are here. Ang problema at sakit ng ulo ko nalang dyan is when the time comes that i'll have to trim the pool down to 12.

Since karamihan naman sa pagpi-pilian eh manggagaling sa PBA at mga professional players, dapat huwag din natin sayangin ang oras nila kung di rin lang kukunin bilang respeto. From my list, sina Hodge, Ellis, Parks, Slaughter at Fajardo lang ang wala sa
PBA. Siguro pwede ng umpisahan ang pool sa 14 PBA players lang + Douthit + the 5 amateurs. Pag-aksayahan nalang ng mas mahabang panahon sa training, familiarization ng sistema at amuyan ng mga players sa bawat-isa kesa spend too much time sa selection process.

coach_of_steel
02-25-2012, 11:18 AM
After beating FEU & ADMU in succession last week, we got our butts kicked by the UP Fighting Maroons last Thursday. I was able to witness 1st hand yung kaka-ibang kumpiyansa at maturity ng Team UP that i've never seen in recent past.

If they can just sustain, or even better, if they can improve on this, UP could be a force to reckon with in this year's UAAP basketball season. The talents and potentials are there. Diinan at tutukan nalang sa smarts (toughen them up mentally).

Last season, i can recall 2 games wherein in 1 game, UP led DLSU by 20 pero natalo pa. And in another, they were leading FEU by 16 in the 4th quarter then natalo pa. These setbacks would surely bore holes in a player's (team's) heart kaya hopefully, na-remedyuhan na nila yan.

Sawsawan ng matinding smarts and poise at hindi lang puro spunk and hustle.

coach_of_steel
02-25-2012, 11:17 PM
Our tune-up game vs DLSU today ended in a tie (74-74). We've been playing listless(lousy) basketball these past couple of days notwithstanding some injuries to some of my players. In fact, you can even consider that we just got lucky to have today's game end up in a tie.

We were actually down by 9 pts with a minute & a half left in the game and could've even won outright had Toto Bandaying not split his free throws with 4 seconds left in the game(we missed 12 free throws today overall). DLSU just committed some inexperienced mistakes in the end game and couldn't close-out the game.

If we keep playing like this, we'll for surely get our butts kicked by the likes of NLEX, Cebuana Lhuillier and Big Chill in the PBA D-League. 17 days before opening day. Need to cram like hell from here on.

MayG
02-26-2012, 08:56 AM
coach, how can you asses the development of the La Salle team... who played? did some of their recruits play? how do you think they will fare in the coming UAAP Season

coach_of_steel
02-26-2012, 09:52 AM
coach, how can you asses the development of the La Salle team... who played? did some of their recruits play? how do you think they will fare in the coming UAAP Season


Well, Marata, Revilla, Vosotross, dela Paz, Webb, Torres, Van Opstal, Paredes, Gotladera, Tallo were all there and some other kids that i don't know. Its still too early to gauge right now since the UAAP is still more than 4 months away.

If you want to know my assessment of the La Salle team as of today, i'd say that they're the weakest and least impressive from among the 5 UAAP teams that we've scrimmaged against these past 2 weeks. If the UAAP should begin today, i think DLSU will be massacred by NU.

But of course there is the spirit and actual-game poise factor that could help mediocre teams steal a game or 2 here and there during the tournament. Do you remember last year when NU lost to UE by 1-point then masaacred the same opponent by 40!!! just
a week later?

If you ask me, the 40 point win still wouldn't make the 1 point loss any less forgivable. NU might've made it to the Final 4 if not for that fluke of a loss, and could've beaten FEU in the Final 4 then faced Ateneo in a slightly better-matched finals as compared to the 1-sided, anti-climactic ADMU-FEU finale.

I was able to share some of my thoughts with coach Gee and i did tell him that he's got his work cut out for him if he wants the Green Archers to avoid the UAAP cellar this season.

coach_of_steel
02-26-2012, 10:41 AM
If you'll ask me, i believe saktong-sakto lang ang 4-5 months na training, mental, physical, psychological & emotional preparation going into the UAAP. Just make sure na minimal lang ang mga misstep and derailment coz time is of the essence. Avoid joining or participating in useless pre-season tournaments and scrimmages.

You've got to let every team member realize that you're all in it together at hindi yung nagla-laglagan if things aren't going smoothly. From hereon, its all about pushing the right buttons and making the right plays(calls).

pio_valenz
02-26-2012, 11:11 AM
After beating FEU & ADMU in succession last week, we got our butts kicked by the UP Fighting Maroons last Thursday. I was able to witness 1st hand yung kaka-ibang kumpiyansa at maturity ng Team UP that i've never seen in recent past.

If they can just sustain, or even better, if they can improve on this, UP could be a force to reckon with in this year's UAAP basketball season. The talents and potentials are there. Diinan at tutukan nalang sa smarts (toughen them up mentally).

Last season, i can recall 2 games wherein in 1 game, UP led DLSU by 20 pero natalo pa. And in another, they were leading FEU by 16 in the 4th quarter then natalo pa. These setbacks would surely bore holes in a player's (team's) heart kaya hopefully, na-remedyuhan na nila yan.

Sawsawan ng matinding smarts and poise at hindi lang puro spunk and hustle.

Coach what was the final score of this scrimmage, and what do you think of UP's new frontline players Chris Ball (tall, thin Fil-Am) and Raul Suyod (stocky new player who plays like Reil Cervantes)? Which Maroon impressed you the most?

MayG
02-26-2012, 11:13 AM
thanks coach!!

coach_of_steel
02-26-2012, 11:30 AM
After beating FEU & ADMU in succession last week, we got our butts kicked by the UP Fighting Maroons last Thursday. I was able to witness 1st hand yung kaka-ibang kumpiyansa at maturity ng Team UP that i've never seen in recent past.

If they can just sustain, or even better, if they can improve on this, UP could be a force to reckon with in this year's UAAP basketball season. The talents and potentials are there. Diinan at tutukan nalang sa smarts (toughen them up mentally).

Last season, i can recall 2 games wherein in 1 game, UP led DLSU by 20 pero natalo pa. And in another, they were leading FEU by 16 in the 4th quarter then natalo pa. These setbacks would surely bore holes in a player's (team's) heart kaya hopefully, na-
remedyuhan na nila yan.

Sawsawan ng matinding smarts and poise at hindi lang puro spunk and hustle.

Coach what was the final score of this scrimmage, and what do you think of UP's new frontline players Chris Ball (tall, thin Fil-Am) and Raul Suyod (stocky new player who plays like Reil Cervantes)? Which Maroon impressed you the most?


Boracay Rum 64 ADMU 61, UP 85 Boracay Rum 66, Boracay Rum 74 DLSU 74. I can't recall the scores of our tune-ups with FEU & NU na. Ball & Suyod are only role players at this point in their careers. If UP is to win some games...finally or continue to lose...just like always, it won't be because of these 2 kids. It would take more than hardwork, good recruits, good coaching staff &
financial backings for UP to get back in the groove of things. Kelangan ng good vibes, good karma, prayers or magpa-tawas. I don't believe they've won even 10 games in the last half decade. And those 2 winless(0-14) seasons sure stinks more than stepping on dog shit.

For the record, Suyod would've been a Red Warrior since 2010 if i chose to but i wasn't that all impressed at the time.

pio_valenz
02-26-2012, 11:35 AM
^The team that played Boracay Rum, pretty much iyon na ang line-up ni Coach Ricky sa coming UAAP. I do think mas malalim na sila this year kaysa last year. But like you said, kailangan din ng kumpyansa. Tanong ko lang ulit, Coach, which Maroon or Maroons impressed you the most? Thanks.

coach_of_steel
02-26-2012, 12:09 PM
^The team that played Boracay Rum, pretty much iyon na ang line-up ni Coach Ricky sa coming UAAP. I do think mas malalim na sila this year kaysa last year. But like you said, kailangan din ng kumpyansa. Tanong ko lang ulit, Coach, which Maroon or Maroons impressed you the most? Thanks.


Team effort naman sila eh. A little bit of everything from everybody. Their main men would still be Mbah & Silungan then a lot of role- playing from guys like Padilla, Gamboa, Reyes, Manuel, Juruena + Ball & Suyod probably.

As i've said, the problem or dilemma of the Fighting Maroons transcends beyond the basketball court na. Maybe kailangan ng matinding spiritual and political na pagbabago. Not unless nagbago na nga pero hindi parin tapos sa paniningil sa mga kasalanan o pagkukulang nung mga nakaraan.

bydpogi
02-26-2012, 12:36 PM
Coach, how about your Boracay Team, sino pong bagong players nyo ngayon? In 2 to 3 weeks D-League na po ulit, Do you think you will be able to give the likes of Cebuana,NLEX a good run fot their money?

coach_of_steel
02-26-2012, 01:34 PM
Coach, how about your Boracay Team, sino pong bagong players nyo ngayon? In 2 to 3 weeks D-League na po ulit, Do you think you will be able to give the likes of Cebuana,NLEX a good run fot their money?


My team is intact + Ken Acibar who was only able to play in our last game in the previous tournament. I've got 2 Fil-Ams also who've been practicing with us for almost a month now but they're both still in the process of completing their immigration status as required by the PBA.

Cebuana...may chance na ma-silat namin sila. NLEX...no injuries, no off-night, complete roster, kung pwede lang na magpa-default nalang kami para hindi na ma-sayang ang oras at pagod. Tsaka pamasahe ng mga players ko. ;)

highfidelity
02-26-2012, 10:37 PM
Well, Marata, Revilla, Vosotross, dela Paz, Webb, Torres, Van Opstal, Paredes, Gotladera, Tallo were all there and some other kids that i don't know. Its still too early to gauge right now since the UAAP is still more than 4 months away.


coach, no Tampus for DLSU?

Looking at the names you mentioned, Revilla, Vosotross and Webb stands out as players who needs to dominate the ball most of the time. With the arrival of Jeron Teng, and I'm assuming Tampus is still with DLSU (wala namang balita na nagdefect siya), who do you think should be the alpha-male for them this season? Second, if you were to choose, which pair of players will make the best starting back court for them?

coach_of_steel
02-26-2012, 11:19 PM
Well, Marata, Revilla, Vosotross, dela Paz, Webb, Torres, Van Opstal, Paredes, Gotladera, Tallo were all there and some other kids that i don't know. Its still too early to gauge right now since the UAAP is still more than 4 months away.


coach, no Tampus for DLSU?

Looking at the names you mentioned, Revilla, Vosotross and Webb stands out as players who needs to dominate the ball most of the time. With the arrival of Jeron Teng, and I'm assuming Tampus is still with DLSU (wala namang balita na nagdefect siya), who do you think should be the alpha-male for them this season? Second, if you were to choose, which pair of players will make the best starting back court for them?



Oh! Tampus was there too. I only noticed that coach Gee played Revilla & Vosotross at the same time a lot as he did with Paredes & Torres (twin towers). They also didn't press us not even once, a total 180 degrees turnaround from the Pumaren trademark. Mas madalas din sila mag-halfcourt set sa offense ala Petron. Haha!

May mga bulung-bulungan akong nasa-sagap na medyo hindi impressed/disappointed ang ilang mga experts sa DLSU kay Jeron Teng(overrated??). Sa mga scrimmages daw eh kinakain lang ng buhay ni Webb. Tulad din kaya siya ng mga long line of high school superstars/volume scorers(Saret, Agovida, Cipriano) na na-reality bitten ng tumuntong ng college league?

Pero Jeron's a good kid kaya sana magkaroon siya ng solid collegiate career. Tsaka para ma-sulit naman yung napaka-laking offer na tatanggapin niya at ng kanyang family.

coach_of_steel
02-27-2012, 12:21 AM
Oops! May question pala about my opinion on the best backcourt tandem for DLSU. Pasensya na hindi ko nasagot sa earlier post ko. Well, in my own opinion, i'd start Vosotross and Teng from the get-go and start the rebuilding process asap. All the current Archers are very raw and i don't see a single guy who could carry the team on his shoulders.

The team will be dependent again on the pep squad and alumni cheering para hopefully magka- fighting spirit. But then again, as i've said, 5 months should be more than enough time to whip a UAAP team into a serious contender. Dapat lang talaga beginning today eh eat, sleep, breath Archers basketball na. Dapat parang sundalo o combat training na. Kiss your wife (wives) and kids goodbye then go to war. See them again in October. Less than 3 months a year lang ang UAAP. Kung wagi ka, you'll have the next 2 months to spend quality time with your family naman eh.

When i was coaching in the UAAP before, there were times that i'd sleep-over pa nga sa team quarters or sometimes just hang with the players until sa patulog na sila. Then uuwi ako. But pag gising ng mga players, nandun na uli ako. Feeding them words of
wisdoms about life, if not about basketball. Building their confidence, preaching to them the importance of succeeding, the desperation in seizing the moment.

Teams like UP, UE, NU & Adamson, mga teams na deka-dekada ng sawi at bigo...dapat nga sa gym na matulog at kumain ang mga yan. Not unless hindi naman ganon ka-urgent sa kanila ang manalo. May nabalitaan pa nga ako about a certain UAAP coach na twice sumali ng international tournaments ang team niya these past several months and in both instance, sinama pa pati pamilya niya. When you go to war, do you really have to bring your wife and kid? Unless for him its just like going to a picnic.

No big deal naman sana yan kung tutuusin, pero anong senyales o mensahe naman ang idudulot niyan sa mga sundalo (players) mo?? "Hindi lang pam-pamilya...Pang-isports pa!!!"

bayanpilipinas
02-27-2012, 06:11 PM
coach, what's your assessment of mark tallo?

coach_of_steel
02-27-2012, 08:14 PM
coach, what's your assessment of mark tallo?


He didn't do much of anything in our tune-up game. Pero when Paul Lee & ii were able to play in a pick-up game against him in Cebu early last year, i noticed the potential of this kid right away. During that time i was informed that coach Dindo Pumaren was also in town to recruit Tallo.

Uunahan ko na sana ang Ateneo at La Salle since nandun narin lang ako then i remembered na wala na pala ako sa UE at that time. Paul Lee and i could only share a hearty laugh afterwards.

Kung sa akin lang sana napunta yang batang yan, i could make him a star in 2-3 years, just like what i could've done with Roi Sumang.

genom222
02-28-2012, 12:49 AM
May mga bulung-bulungan akong nasa-sagap na medyo hindi impressed/disappointed ang ilang mga experts sa DLSU kay Jeron Teng(overrated??). Sa mga scrimmages daw eh kinakain lang ng buhay ni Webb. Tulad din kaya siya ng mga long line of high school superstars/volume scorers(Saret, Agovida, Cipriano) na na-reality bitten ng tumuntong ng college league?

Pero Jeron's a good kid kaya sana magkaroon siya ng solid collegiate career. Tsaka para ma-sulit naman yung napaka-laking offer na tatanggapin niya at ng kanyang family.




Coach ano personal assessment mo kay Jeron? Aside from being a good kid.

coach_of_steel
02-28-2012, 01:17 AM
May mga bulung-bulungan akong nasa-sagap na medyo hindi impressed/disappointed ang ilang mga experts sa DLSU kay Jeron Teng(overrated??). Sa mga scrimmages daw eh kinakain lang ng buhay ni Webb. Tulad din kaya siya ng mga long line of high school superstars/volume scorers(Saret, Agovida, Cipriano) na na-reality bitten ng tumuntong ng college league?

Pero Jeron's a good kid kaya sana magkaroon siya ng solid collegiate career. Tsaka para ma-sulit naman yung napaka-laking offer na tatanggapin niya at ng kanyang family.



Coach ano personal assessment mo kay Jeron? Aside from being a good kid.


Given the right breaks & exposure, the right amount of tender love & care, the right amount of confidence boost & real-time orientation on collegiate/semi-pro basketball I.Q., Jeron should be a quality minutes guy right away and could be a full-pledged star before his time is up at DLSU.

coach_of_steel
02-28-2012, 01:57 AM
Allow me to share a little tidbit on Jeron Teng during my last few months (i didn't know that it was gonna be my last few months at that time) with UE. I had sought for Mr. Bong Tan's blessings for the approval of a 5 Million Peso package to lure Jeron Teng to come to UE after his stint at Xavier School.

Guess what was Boss Bong's reply: he said maybe 5M wouldn't be able to cut it. He thinks we oughta make it 8. You got it right! 8 Million Bucks to snag Jeron Teng. Thats how highly we regard this kid.

After Paul Lee would've left after the 2011 season, it'll be the Big 3 of Acibar, Sumang & Teng's turn to carry the load on the school's long-futile quest for that oh so elusive UAAP mojo.

tulf
02-28-2012, 02:30 AM
Allow me to share a little tidbit on Jeron Teng during my last few months (i didn't know that it was gonna be my last few months at that time) with UE. I had sought for Mr. Bong Tan's blessings for the approval of a 5 Million Peso package to lure Jeron Teng to come to UE after his stint at Xavier School.

Guess what was Boss Bong's reply: he said maybe 5M wouldn't be able to cut it. He thinks we oughta make it 8. You got it right! 8 Million Bucks to snag Jeron Teng. Thats how highly we regard this kid.

After Paul Lee would've left after the 2011 season, it'll be the Big 3 of Acibar, Sumang & Teng's turn to carry the load on the school's long-futile quest for that oh so elusive UAAP mojo.


Coach, 5m or 8m could you tell us kung saan po pupunta yun ganun amount of money? isang bagsak lang po ba yun? or installment? does this include housing(like condo), transpo (cars), allowance during his stay with the school?

easter
02-28-2012, 07:21 AM
Coach you are among the first ones to play the Blue Eagles this year and among the concerns will be that of Long and Monfort not being there anymore. In the game you played Ateneo would you say they lost a step or two defensively or it is just too early to tell?

coach_of_steel
02-28-2012, 09:27 AM
Allow me to share a little tidbit on Jeron Teng during my last few months (i didn't know that it was gonna be my last few months at that time) with UE. I had sought for Mr. Bong Tan's blessings for the approval of a 5 Million Peso package to lure Jeron Teng to come to UE after his stint at Xavier School.

Guess what was Boss Bong's reply: he said maybe 5M wouldn't be able to cut it. He thinks we oughta make it 8. You got it right! 8 Million Bucks to snag Jeron Teng. Thats how highly we regard this kid.

After Paul Lee would've left after the 2011 season, it'll be the Big 3 of Acibar, Sumang & Teng's turn to carry the load on the
school's long-futile quest for that oh so elusive UAAP mojo.


Coach, 5m or 8m could you tell us kung saan po pupunta yun ganun amount of money? isang bagsak lang po ba yun? or installment? does this include housing(like condo), transpo (cars), allowance during his stay with the school?


Maybe 2 or 3 Million out of the 8M would have to be upfront money (parang downpayment). Another 1M would be for a brand-new car. Then since we own PAL, maybe throw in 4 business class tickets to the U.S. yearly for 5 years ( more than a million pesosndin yan). Then the remaining P3,000,000.00 divided by 60 months = P50,000 in monthly allowances for 5 years.

Ang hindi lang nga namin kayang ibigay eh yung coaching staff job para sa daddy niya tsaka hindi rin namin kaya magbigay ng Petron dealership. Kaya malamang, eventhough pipilitin naming maka-come up ng ganung halaga to recruit Jeron...malamang hindi rin mapunta sa amin yan.

Most of the time, mas ok pa yung kumuha nalang ng 6'7-6'8 na import or kalkalin ang countryside baka maka-boso ng mga RR Garcia, Eman Monfort, Noy Baclao, Pari Llagas, Rudy Lingganay, etc. Mga bargain ang mga ito.

Upon setting foot in UE 3 years ago, ang malalaking allowances receiver na noon eh sina Llagas, Elmer Espiritu at James Martinez at P4,000 a month. Paul Lee and Val Acuna were receiving P2,500/month. That team went all the way to game 3 of the
UAAP Finals. Sulit diba?

coach_of_steel
02-28-2012, 09:35 AM
Coach you are among the first ones to play the Blue Eagles this year and among the concerns will be that of Long and Monfort not being there anymore. In the game you played Ateneo would you say they lost a step or two defensively or it is just too early to tell?


Malaking kawalan sina Monfort and Long. Those 2 players are the glue that hold their team together. Sa kanilang dalawa kadalasan napupunta yung dirty job ( mga wala sa stats). Sila yung nagpo-provide ng smarts and poise sa team last year.

Mas malaki ang implications in losing Monfort & Long kesa nung nawala sina Buenafe at Salamat. Big shoes to fill ika nga itong dalawang stabilizers ng Ateneo.

coach_of_steel
02-28-2012, 09:42 AM
[quote=tulf ]
[quote=coach_of_steel ]

Maybe 2 or 3 Million out of the 8M would have to be upfront money (parang downpayment). Another 1M would be for a brand-new car. Then since we own PAL, maybe throw in 4 business class tickets to the U.S. yearly for 5 years ( more than a million pesosndin yan). Then the remaining P3,000,000.00 divided by 60 months = P50,000 in monthly allowances for 5 years.

Ang hindi lang nga namin kayang ibigay eh yung coaching staff job para sa daddy niya tsaka hindi rin namin kaya magbigay ng Petron dealership. Kaya malamang, eventhough pipilitin naming maka-come up ng ganung halaga to recruit Jeron...malamang hindi rin mapunta sa amin yan.

Most of the time, mas ok pa yung kumuha nalang ng 6'7-6'8 na import or kalkalin ang countryside baka maka-boso ng mga RR Garcia, Eman Monfort, Noy Baclao, Pari Llagas, Rudy Lingganay, etc. Mga bargain ang mga ito.

Upon setting foot in UE 3 years ago, ang malalaking allowances receiver na noon eh sina Llagas, Elmer Espiritu at James
Martinez at P4,000 a month. Paul Lee and Val Acuna were receiving P2,500/month. That team went all the way to game 3 of the
UAAP Finals. Sulit diba?


LILINAWIN O KA-KLARUHIN KO LANG HA: HINDI KO SINASABI NA MAY NAGBIGAY O NAKA-TANGGAP O MAKAKA-TANGGAP SI JERON TENG NG PETRON DEALERSHIP HA. ANG SINASABI KO LANG EH HINDI NAMIN KAYANG MAGBIGAY
NG PETRON DEALERSHIP O FRANCHISE.

MALINAW YAN HA!!!

tulf
02-28-2012, 04:22 PM
Allow me to share a little tidbit on Jeron Teng during my last few months (i didn't know that it was gonna be my last few months at that time) with UE. I had sought for Mr. Bong Tan's blessings for the approval of a 5 Million Peso package to lure Jeron Teng to come to UE after his stint at Xavier School.

Guess what was Boss Bong's reply: he said maybe 5M wouldn't be able to cut it. He thinks we oughta make it 8. You got it right! 8 Million Bucks to snag Jeron Teng. Thats how highly we regard this kid.

After Paul Lee would've left after the 2011 season, it'll be the Big 3 of Acibar, Sumang & Teng's turn to carry the load on the
school's long-futile quest for that oh so elusive UAAP mojo.


Coach, 5m or 8m could you tell us kung saan po pupunta yun ganun amount of money? isang bagsak lang po ba yun? or installment? does this include housing(like condo), transpo (cars), allowance during his stay with the school?


Maybe 2 or 3 Million out of the 8M would have to be upfront money (parang downpayment). Another 1M would be for a brand-new car. Then since we own PAL, maybe throw in 4 business class tickets to the U.S. yearly for 5 years ( more than a million pesosndin yan). Then the remaining P3,000,000.00 divided by 60 months = P50,000 in monthly allowances for 5 years.

Ang hindi lang nga namin kayang ibigay eh yung coaching staff job para sa daddy niya tsaka hindi rin namin kaya magbigay ng Petron dealership. Kaya malamang, eventhough pipilitin naming maka-come up ng ganung halaga to recruit Jeron...malamang hindi rin mapunta sa amin yan.

Most of the time, mas ok pa yung kumuha nalang ng 6'7-6'8 na import or kalkalin ang countryside baka maka-boso ng mga RR Garcia, Eman Monfort, Noy Baclao, Pari Llagas, Rudy Lingganay, etc. Mga bargain ang mga ito.

Upon setting foot in UE 3 years ago, ang malalaking allowances receiver na noon eh sina Llagas, Elmer Espiritu at James Martinez at P4,000 a month. Paul Lee and Val Acuna were receiving P2,500/month. That team went all the way to game 3 of the
UAAP Finals. Sulit diba?


Agree coach! parang si Jeremy Lin po ng New York, sulit na sulit, yun tipong parang na tisod mo lang.
Thanks coach for the enlightment! sarap nyo talaga kausap, pwede ka na nga mag karuon ng radio program!

redlion123
02-28-2012, 07:49 PM
Coach nalalaos ba ang mga coaches? Gaya ni Aric pagkatapos ng 4 peat niya at pag champion sa NBA ay parang hirap ng manalo.. Gayun din si lenny Wilkens.. Pag tumatanda ba ang coach mas humihina?

coach_of_steel
02-28-2012, 10:00 PM
Coach nalalaos ba ang mga coaches? Gaya ni Aric pagkatapos ng 4 peat niya at pag champion sa NBA ay parang hirap ng manalo.. Gayun din si lenny Wilkens.. Pag tumatanda ba ang coach mas humihina?


I'd like to believe that a coach like me will only better as i get older. Just like fine wine. Of course, just like any other human being, pupurol narin yung utak kapag medyo upwards of, say, 65 years old??

Phil Jackson, Larry Brown, Mike Krzyzewski, Greg Popovich and even Jerry Sloan, thy've won at the highest level eveb as they got older.

highfidelity
03-01-2012, 02:50 AM
Coach, sino sa tingin niyo ang possibleng maging break out players sa UAAP this year? Yung underachiever o kaya nama'y bangko na lalabas ang totoong potential dahil mabibigyan ng tamang break, o sadyang nakapag-adjust na sa college level.

coach_of_steel
03-01-2012, 04:00 AM
Coach, sino sa tingin niyo ang possibleng maging break out players sa UAAP this year? Yung underachiever o kaya nama'y bangko na lalabas ang totoong potential dahil mabibigyan ng tamang break, o sadyang nakapag-adjust na sa college level.


#1 on my list is Roi Sumang. If he could muster or carry his team to at least 3 wins man lang then i'd say its a step in the right direction for him.

#2 si Escoto ng FEU. Malaki ang potential ng batang ito basta tama lang ang gamit sa kanya.

#3 Juami Tiongson. In his junior year, after the graduation of Eman Monfort, the ball is niw in his court. Time of reckoning na.

#4 LA Revilla. More than a year out of his life threatening disease, after a heartwarming & inspiring comeback last season, kailangan turn it up a notch higher na in quarterbacking the Green Archers to the promise land.

#5 Ray Parks. Nag-MVP nga siya last year but still, his Bulldogs couldn't crash the Final 4 party evenafter all the pronouncement & pre-season hype. I'd like to see Bobby Ray, arguably the finest collegiate cager in the land, carry his hard luck NU Bulldogs team all the way to the UAAP Finals this coming season. The only way is with Ray.

yungha
03-01-2012, 08:50 AM
coach, what's the most beautiful destination you've traveled to, abroad and locally?

coach_of_steel
03-01-2012, 09:58 AM
coach, what's the most beautiful destination you've traveled to, abroad and locally?


Locally, maybe Boracay na ang chart-topper. But i can also remember the view while transversing the highway that connects Ozamiz City and Pagadian City. The Philippine Sea to my left and breath-taking rainforest to my right.

I've usually shared that experience to friends who'd care to listen coz i can only surmised that this is a road less-traveled in the past dahil war-torn(between the Army & the insurgents) ang lugar na ito in Mindanao. Nung minsan nga lang sa buhay ko na tinahak ang daan na ito, maya-maya eh may checkpoint at tangke ang naka-balandra sa mga checkpoints na yan.

Internationally, although beautiful might not be an apt description, the place that is sarap-to the bones for me will always be Las Vegas. #2 New York City. Yung bullet train ride from Osaka to Tokyo City, wow din yung Great Wall of China sa Beijing, ok rin yung Napa Valley sa Northern California, the Sun Moon Lake in Taiwan.

To name a few lang. I haven't been to Europe and Australia/New Zealand at all. Tsaka sa mga isla in the Carribean.

yungha
03-01-2012, 10:43 AM
Locally, maybe Boracay na ang chart-topper. But i can also remember the view while transversing the highway that connects Ozamiz City and Pagadian City. The Philippine Sea to my left and breath-taking rainforest to my right.

I've usually shared that experience to friends who'd care to listen coz i can only surmised that this is a road less-traveled in the past dahil war-torn(between the Army & the insurgents) ang lugar na ito in Mindanao. Nung minsan nga lang sa buhay ko na tinahak ang daan na ito, maya-maya eh may checkpoint at tangke ang naka-balandra sa mga checkpoints na yan.
...


haha. i can imagine. yup your description matches those of people i know who've been there - the ocean on one side and the forests on the other. sabi nila it's like you're in the pacific northwest. maganda daw sa forest, really tall trees, thick canopy, fresh air at malamig. sayang hindi masyadong tourist destination dahil nga sa peace and order situation.

bakit ka napadpad dun coach? may game kayo or were you scouting a player?

coach_of_steel
03-01-2012, 11:23 AM
Locally, maybe Boracay na ang chart-topper. But i can also remember the view while transversing the highway that connects Ozamiz City and Pagadian City. The Philippine Sea to my left and breath-taking rainforest to my right.

I've usually shared that experience to friends who'd care to listen coz i can only surmised that this is a road less-traveled in the past dahil war-torn(between the Army & the insurgents) ang lugar na ito in Mindanao. Nung minsan nga lang sa buhay ko na tinahak ang daan na ito, maya-maya eh may checkpoint at tangke ang naka-balandra sa mga checkpoints na yan.
...


haha. i can imagine. yup your description matches those of people i know who've been there - the ocean on one side and the forests on the other. sabi nila it's like you're in the pacific northwest. maganda daw sa forest, really tall trees, thick canopy, fresh air at malamig. sayang hindi masyadong tourist destination dahil nga sa peace and order situation.

bakit ka napadpad dun coach? may game kayo or were you scouting a player?


After my 1st head coaching stint in the MBA( regional in nature) back in 2002 and its subsequent fold-up, a league called the NBL (that became the NBC later on) took its place. The member teams included Iligan City, Pagadian City, Ozamiz City, Valencia City(Bukidnon) and North Cotabato(see how gaga Filipinos everywhere are over basketball?).

Dun po muna napasali ang team ko in 2003-2006 before yung participation namin sa PBL. Pakiramdam ko nga noon kami yung local version ng Harlem Globetrotters. May bus rides, plane rides and boat rides just to play a silly game. ;)

emenk
03-01-2012, 02:24 PM
If you'll ask me, i believe saktong-sakto lang ang 4-5 months na training, mental, physical, psychological & emotional preparation going into the UAAP. Just make sure na minimal lang ang mga misstep and derailment coz time is of the essence. Avoid joining or participating in useless pre-season tournaments and scrimmages.

You've got to let every team member realize that you're all in it together at hindi yung nagla-laglagan if things aren't going smoothly. From hereon, its all about pushing the right buttons and making the right plays(calls).


Coach, who among the current Archers players were you impressed the most? TIA!

coach_of_steel
03-01-2012, 09:03 PM
If you'll ask me, i believe saktong-sakto lang ang 4-5 months na training, mental, physical, psychological & emotional preparation going into the UAAP. Just make sure na minimal lang ang mga misstep and derailment coz time is of the essence. Avoid joining or participating in useless pre-season tournaments and scrimmages.

You've got to let every team member realize that you're all in it together at hindi yung nagla-laglagan if things aren't going smoothly. From hereon, its all about pushing the right buttons and making the right plays(calls).


Coach, who among the current Archers players were you impressed the most? TIA!



Honestly, none. Norbert Torres seemed to have improved a bit from last season pero medyo kulang pa ng maturity. He's more active and aggressive na inside the paint as compared to last season na akala mo idol niya si Nowitski.

Most of the Archers, i feel, are fighting and focused on the wrong agenda. Tama na dapat ipaglaban ang school pride. Tama rin na ipaglaban ang team at mga teamates. Pero ang napansin ko lang, masyadong maraming distractions tsaka may pagka-carefree ang bawat individual. Tuloy, hindi collective ang efforts tsaka hindi mai-rub off ng maigi yung spunk and smarts among teamates or co-players.

When DLSU lost 8 straight games, including the last one against NU, back in 2009, parang dun nag-umpisang sumabog yung overall character ng team. In 2010, FEU didn't want to win a 2nd round elimination game against DLSU that paved the way for a cameo appearance in the Final 4 for the Archers. Then last season, when they lost a game to a team that couldn't even win(UE), it became very evident that the will to win (or better yet, how to win) isn't there anymore.

Nakaka-take advantage lang sa recruiting(together with ADMU) since kids from all over the country prefers to go to DLSU (and ADMU) pero once na-collar na yung recruit, nagiging stagnant naman yung development ng player(s).

Gab Banal, Elorde, Kevin Alas, Louie Vigil..anong nangyari sa mga recruits na yan? Gotladera hardly saw floor time last season. Van Opstal groped for form in limited action. Si Maui Villanueva halos walang asenso rin. Sina Dela Paz at Marata, all they wanna do is bomb from the outside. Webb...you can actually leave him alone and more often than not, he'll just commit a turnover or a boo-boo. The jury is out with Revilla. Yung Vosotros and Tampus ang mga nagpapakita ng promise coz buo ang loob ng dalawang batang yan. Yutien told me that he'll be ready to go in a month or 2. Malaking tulong din siya.

A lot of hard work has to be done but as a coach, nobody works harder than coach Gee. Lots of luck to him.

james_ty
03-02-2012, 11:02 AM
Any new faces for Boracay Rum, coach? What about the other teams in the PBA D League, especially the new teams coming in?

coach_of_steel
03-02-2012, 03:32 PM
Any new faces for Boracay Rum, coach? What about the other teams in the PBA D League, especially the new teams coming in?


For Boracay Rum, Ken Acibar will be playing the whole conference after just being able to play just 1 game for us last conference. Jhon Foronda is also back after missing all of the last conference while entertaining thoughts of being able to suit up for Lyceum in the NCAA which proved to be an exercise in futility.

We got 2 Fil-Ams practicing with us for awhile now but both are still awaiting their Immigration papers to get a green light from the league to play.

With regards to the new teams, i have absolutely no clue about them. Element of surprise. ;)

coach_of_steel
03-03-2012, 03:24 AM
The number of views on this thread had been growing by the hundreds daily and somehow, there are not a lot of interesting topics being discussed here. Its been more like a wait and see situation most of the time.

You guys seem to just browse on anything that i've got to say here instead of asking questions. What is it really that you're interested or waiting to read here? Whats the topic that interest you the most?

Feel free to ask. I'll do my best to oblige you with a reaction(sincere and from the heart) the best way i can.

james_ty
03-03-2012, 08:10 AM
Any new faces for Boracay Rum, coach? What about the other teams in the PBA D League, especially the new teams coming in?


For Boracay Rum, Ken Acibar will be playing the whole conference after just being able to play just 1 game for us last conference. Jhon Foronda is also back after missing all of the last conference while entertaining thoughts of being able to suit up for Lyceum in the NCAA which proved to be an exercise in futility.

We got 2 Fil-Ams practicing with us for awhile now but both are still awaiting their Immigration papers to get a green light from the league to play.

With regards to the new teams, i have absolutely no clue about them. Element of surprise. ;)


As far as I know, Yong Garcia and Alvin Pua, the former San Sebastian player, are the new coaches in the D League. Junior Powerade, which features the UP Maroons, is making a comeback.

coach_of_steel
03-03-2012, 09:23 AM
Any new faces for Boracay Rum, coach? What about the other teams in the PBA D League, especially the new teams coming in?


For Boracay Rum, Ken Acibar will be playing the whole conference after just being able to play just 1 game for us last conference. Jhon Foronda is also back after missing all of the last conference while entertaining thoughts of being able to suit up for Lyceum in the NCAA which proved to be an exercise in futility.

We got 2 Fil-Ams practicing with us for awhile now but both are still awaiting their Immigration papers to get a green light from the league to play.

With regards to the new teams, i have absolutely no clue about them. Element of surprise. ;)


As far as I know, Yong Garcia and Alvin Pua, the former San Sebastian player, are the new coaches in the D League. Junior Powerade, which features the UP Maroons, is making a comeback.


I've heard about the coaches of these 2 new teams. Its their respective line-ups that i have not heard anything of.

Alvin Pua was my player for quite awhile(2003-2005) both in the NBL and in the PBL

MayG
03-03-2012, 09:24 AM
Coach, who among the rookies next near in the UAAP do you think will make an immediate impact and will immediately make a substantial contribution to their team.. Thanks

coach_of_steel
03-03-2012, 09:53 AM
Coach, who among the rookies next near in the UAAP do you think will make an immediate impact and will immediately make a substantial contribution to their team.. Thanks


It should be just 1 of the mercenaries, este, imports/reinforcements. Could be Hargrove. Or Newsome. Or Betayene. Or..basta anyone from those being given(paid) a bigger allowance(salary) as compared to most of their Filipino counterparts. It would be from among this batch's hired imports who are perceived(believed) to be able to do or provide for a Philippine collegiate basketball team that no Filipino college kid in the whole country can provide.

MayG
03-03-2012, 10:38 AM
sad... really sad. are you against the influx of these "imports" who obviously are here just to play and get paid rather than get a good education? you think the rest of the other schools are going towards this path started by FEU, then UST, UP, NU?

coach_of_steel
03-03-2012, 11:17 AM
sad... really sad. are you against the influx of these "imports" who obviously are here just to play and get paid rather than get a good education? you think the rest of the other schools are going towards this path started by FEU, then UST, UP, NU?


Im neither pro nor against it. Let the people who allowed it live with it for eternity. Kung tama then magaling sila at kung mali, sila parin ang magling.

Through the years, i've somehow learned the art of living. Why waste any sleep over stuffs that we don't have any control of whatsoever? Hindi ko rin naman pera yung ginagastos ng mga teams na yan sa pag-hire ng imports.

At the end of the day, they'd just eventually prove to all & sundry their lust for winning, their undying love for their beloved Alma Mater, and that they're moneyed as compared to the next guy beside them. Wherein truth, they're just missing the whole point.

Didn't a great man once said, "Yes. The Filipino can."??

coach_of_steel
03-03-2012, 11:27 AM
Im pretty sure that in this country, and in our lifetime, we have learned to accept a lot more bullcrap going on in our society...oh so much worst than our collegiated basketball leagues being INFESTED by (paid) imported mercenaries aka quick-fix solutions to winning a damn basketball game. Very ingenius indeed.

animo
03-03-2012, 03:23 PM
Coach, sino sa tingin niyo ang possibleng maging break out players sa UAAP this year? Yung underachiever o kaya nama'y bangko na lalabas ang totoong potential dahil mabibigyan ng tamang break, o sadyang nakapag-adjust na sa college level.


#1 on my list is Roi Sumang. If he could muster or carry his team to at least 3 wins man lang then i'd say its a step in the right direction for him.

#2 si Escoto ng FEU. Malaki ang potential ng batang ito basta tama lang ang gamit sa kanya.

#3 Juami Tiongson. In his junior year, after the graduation of Eman Monfort, the ball is niw in his court. Time of reckoning na.

#4 LA Revilla. More than a year out of his life threatening disease, after a heartwarming & inspiring comeback last season, kailangan turn it up a notch higher na in quarterbacking the Green Archers to the promise land.

#5 Ray Parks. Nag-MVP nga siya last year but still, his Bulldogs couldn't crash the Final 4 party evenafter all the pronouncement & pre-season hype. I'd like to see Bobby Ray, arguably the finest collegiate cager in the land, carry his hard luck NU Bulldogs team all the way to the UAAP Finals this coming season. The only way is with Ray.


coach, how about in ncaa?

coach_of_steel
03-03-2012, 04:21 PM
Coach, sino sa tingin niyo ang possibleng maging break out players sa UAAP this year? Yung underachiever o kaya nama'y bangko na lalabas ang totoong potential dahil mabibigyan ng tamang break, o sadyang nakapag-adjust na sa college level.


#1 on my list is Roi Sumang. If he could muster or carry his team to at least 3 wins man lang then i'd say its a step in the right direction for him.

#2 si Escoto ng FEU. Malaki ang potential ng batang ito basta tama lang ang gamit sa kanya.

#3 Juami Tiongson. In his junior year, after the graduation of Eman Monfort, the ball is niw in his court. Time of reckoning na.

#4 LA Revilla. More than a year out of his life threatening disease, after a heartwarming & inspiring comeback last season, kailangan turn it up a notch higher na in quarterbacking the Green Archers to the promise land.

#5 Ray Parks. Nag-MVP nga siya last year but still, his Bulldogs couldn't crash the Final 4 party evenafter all the pronouncement & pre-season hype. I'd like to see Bobby Ray, arguably the finest collegiate cager in the land, carry his hard luck NU Bulldogs team all the way to the UAAP Finals this coming season. The only way is with Ray.


coach, how about in ncaa?


Lastimosa of CSB, Villarias of JRU, Nimes of MIT, Kev Alas of Letran, Cayabyab of Lyceum, Taha of MIT, Almazan of Letran. I don't see the need to add any of the SBC & SSC players to this list since ngayon palang, 4 months before the start of their tournament, 1 foot inside the finals na sila (unless overage na si Abueva-take note: i used the word overage and not graduated. hehe!).

Somehow, i find the NCAA(elimination rounds) to be 1 hell of a boring league. Ok lang mag-girls watching. Parang dyan sa Baste mo matatagpuan ang mga pinaka-magagandang kolehiyala dito sa Piipinas. Awww!!!

MayG
03-03-2012, 07:21 PM
sad... really sad. are you against the influx of these "imports" who obviously are here just to play and get paid rather than get a good education? you think the rest of the other schools are going towards this path started by FEU, then UST, UP, NU?


Im neither pro nor against it. Let the people who allowed it live with it for eternity. Kung tama then magaling sila at kung mali, sila parin ang magling.

Through the years, i've somehow learned the art of living. Why waste any sleep over stuffs that we don't have any control of whatsoever? Hindi ko rin naman pera yung ginagastos ng mga teams na yan sa pag-hire ng imports.

At the end of the day, they'd just eventually prove to all & sundry their lust for winning, their undying love for their beloved Alma Mater, and that they're moneyed as compared to the next guy beside them. Wherein truth, they're just missing the whole point.

Didn't a great man once said, "Yes. The Filipino can."??


amen to that coach!!! well said :)

The_Big_Cat
03-03-2012, 08:16 PM
Coach, what do you think about the possibility of a merger between the NCAA and UAAP that was proposed a few years back?

coach_of_steel
03-03-2012, 11:01 PM
Coach, what do you think about the possibility of a merger between the NCAA and UAAP that was proposed a few years back?


That will not and should not happen. Its already taking the UAAP basketball season 3 months to complete while the NCAA, a ridiculous 4 months. Its as if these student-athletes don't have to attend classes or take care of school works anymore.

Don't forget that these are college leagues and not a commercial or professional league. Parang hindi na kailangan mag-aral ah.

highfidelity
03-03-2012, 11:29 PM
Coach, how high do you think is Kevin Ferrer's ceiling?

coach_of_steel
03-04-2012, 12:12 AM
Coach, how high do you think is Kevin Ferrer's ceiling?


Ceiling? U referring to his height or potential? Sa tingin ko gagalilng pa yan. The skills are there...yung drive nalang niya tsaka work ethics..tsaka destiny. Remember Danny Pribhdas?

highfidelity
03-04-2012, 01:06 AM
Ceiling? U referring to his height or potential? Sa tingin ko gagalilng pa yan. The skills are there...yung drive nalang niya tsaka work ethics..tsaka destiny. Remember Danny Pribhdas?


Yes, I was referring to his potential. I should've made my post clearer ;D Anyway, yes, I remember Pribhdas, one of the better players during the years when UST wasn't a relevant force in the UAAP. KF reminds you of Pribhdas?

coach_of_steel
03-04-2012, 04:10 AM
Ceiling? U referring to his height or potential? Sa tingin ko gagalilng pa yan. The skills are there...yung drive nalang niya tsaka work ethics..tsaka destiny. Remember Danny Pribhdas?


Yes, I was referring to his potential. I should've made my post clearer ;D Anyway, yes, I remember Pribhdas, one of the better players during the years when UST wasn't a relevant force in the UAAP. KF reminds you of Pribhdas?


Somehow. Danny P played his last few years of relevant basketball with me in the PBL. He suffered an ACL injury, underwent arthroscopic surgery but was remiss and lazy with his rehab. That misstep eventually led to his short-lived basketball career.

That is why players like Ferrer shouldn't sit on their laurels and depend on their minute potential as their vehicle towards a checkered career. The work, sacrifice & perseverance should be non-stop. Just ask Kobe.

easter
03-05-2012, 06:13 AM
Coach, what do you think about the possibility of a merger between the NCAA and UAAP that was proposed a few years back?


That will not and should not happen. Its already taking the UAAP basketball season 3 months to complete while the NCAA, a ridiculous 4 months. Its as if these student-athletes don't have to attend classes or take care of school works anymore.

Don't forget that these are college leagues and not a commercial or professional league. Parang hindi na kailangan mag-aral ah.


Coach I definitely agree. It will take almost the greater part of the school year. Although marami ngang sinasalihang off-season leagues ang mga school at least dun may option to forego a particular league but a prolonged season because of the merger will leave no choice for everyone but to play pressure packed games all throughout while studying as well. Kawawa naman.

coach_of_steel
03-05-2012, 08:19 AM
Coach, what do you think about the possibility of a merger between the NCAA and UAAP that was proposed a few years back?


That will not and should not happen. Its already taking the UAAP basketball season 3 months to complete while the NCAA, a ridiculous 4 months. Its as if these student-athletes don't have to attend classes or take care of school works anymore.

Don't forget that these are college leagues and not a commercial or professional league. Parang hindi na kailangan mag-aral ah.


Coach I definitely agree. It will take almost the greater part of the school year. Although marami ngang sinasalihang off-season leagues ang mga school at least dun may option to forego a particular league but a prolonged season because of the merger will leave no choice for everyone but to play pressure packed games all throughout while studying as well. Kawawa naman.


Hindi ever, ever, ever magiging kawawa ang mga players. Mas gugustuhin pa ng mga yan kapag buong taon nalang ang tournament. Screw schoolwork! Mae-exempt din naman sila eventually.

But we must realize that these kids were recruited to primarily play basketball and secondly, be a schoolboy. Im sure guys like Al-Hussaini, Baclao, Salamat, Buenafe, Slaughter et al wouldn't be able to even set foot inside the Ateneo campus if not for their basketball prowess. Same goes for the majority of basketball recruits with most colleges.

Take the case of James Yap & Paul Lee of UE. The target from the get-go for these 2 is to get to the PBA. Iba yung mga student-athletes in any sports na puhunan ang ang talent at skills in a particular discipline upang makapag-aral ng libre at ang primary goal eh makatapos ng kolehiyo.

I don't see anything wrong in taking or choosing any of the 2 paths since the ultimate goal naman is makapaghanap-buhay. A student-athlete lang should be guided or ma-advice ng mabuti kung he can have a career in sports or better off na mag-aral ng mabuti to earn a degree instead if it is indeed obvious na he wouldn't have much of a career in sports.

coach_of_steel
03-05-2012, 09:20 AM
Well, maybe not Paul Lee. After high school, he was unrecruited. It was his high school teamate Raffy Reyes that was being recruited and then Raffy's mother interceded(pinaki-usapan) on Paul's behalf na isama narin siya. It was granted therefore Paul was included in UE's team B in schoolyear 2006-07.

Getting to the PBA is every kid-hoopsters dream but to actually get there is another story. Therefore, with the kind of headstart that Paul had coming out of high school, i don't think getting into the PBA was the immediate goal.

So it seems like over at Recto, "in the last 10 years", i can now clearly state that it was only James Yap, out of the 14 or 15 current ex-Warriors in the pro loop, that i can consider pro-bound coming out of high school.

Sam Miguel
03-05-2012, 09:40 AM
^^^ I have always maintained that there is nothing wrong with kids who want to pursue a basketball career as their bread and butter myself, coach.

My take on that though is that we should have a basketball academy of some kind run by the SBP. After all, if we have tech and vocational schools for automotive, refrigeration, electronics, etc, why not a tech-voc school for basketball?

I always thought this was better than going through the whole rigmarole of enrolling a kid in a full-fledged college but the kid isn't there to earn a degree anyway. I'd rather have him practicing four hours a day, being in various local and international tournaments the whole year round, then getting some media relations training, some math for basic computation and calculation purposes lalo sa sahod at mga kaltas, training in management-labor relations, training in coach-player relations, teambuilding, etc, para at least hindi din siya kawawain ng mga unscrupulous agents.

Whether or not kawawain siya ng SBP though is another matter... ;D

coach_of_steel
03-05-2012, 10:11 AM
^^^ I have always maintained that there is nothing wrong with kids who want to pursue a basketball career as their bread and butter myself, coach.

My take on that though is that we should have a basketball academy of some kind run by the SBP. After all, if we have tech and vocational schools for automotive, refrigeration, electronics, etc, why not a tech-voc school for basketball?

I always thought this was better than going through the whole rigmarole of enrolling a kid in a full-fledged college but the kid isn't there to earn a degree anyway. I'd rather have him practicing four hours a day, being in various local and international tournaments the whole year round, then getting some media relations training, some math for basic computation and calculation purposes lalo sa sahod at mga kaltas, training in management-labor relations, training in coach-player relations, teambuilding, etc, para at least hindi din siya kawawain ng mga unscrupulous agents.

Whether or not kawawain siya ng SBP though is another matter... ;D


Hey! U've just given me a bright idea for a business. Pwede yan ah. I can have it approved or accredited by TESDA too. And also help out & give a whole bunch of great(good) but unemployed Filipino coaches a job.

It is ambitious. But it could also be worth a try.

animo
03-05-2012, 10:33 AM
but the pba requires the wannabe to pass certain nos. of unit in college right?

coach_of_steel
03-05-2012, 11:19 AM
but the pba requires the wannabe to pass certain nos. of unit in college right?


I don't think so. What i do recall dating back to the Marlou Aquino and Kerby Raymundo experience, a draftee just has to have went to college for at least 4 years if he hasn't turned 23 yet. Generally, kapag 23 years old or older ka na, kahit na "no read no write" ka pa eh eligible na yan magpa-draft sa PBA.

Para naman yung magba-balut, magta-taho tsaka yung miyembro ng bukas-kotse gang na star players sa Inter-Tsinelas league dun sa may amin eh hindi naman mawalan ng pag-asa. ;)

coach_of_steel
03-05-2012, 11:35 AM
but the pba requires the wannabe to pass certain nos. of unit in college right?


I don't think so. What i do recall dating back to the Marlou Aquino and Kerby Raymundo experience, a draftee just has to have went to college for at least 4 years if he hasn't turned 23 yet. Generally, kapag 23 years old or older ka na, kahit na "no read no write" ka pa eh eligible na yan magpa-draft sa PBA.

Para naman yung magba-balut, magta-taho tsaka yung miyembro ng bukas-kotse gang na star players sa Inter-Tsinelas league dun sa may amin eh hindi naman mawalan ng pag-asa. ;)


Isama narin natin yung mga imbes mag-basketball eh baka magpa-draft nalang sa budol-budol gang o kaya sa dugo-dugo gang, hamog boys, agaw-armas gang, paracale gang, himas-rehas gang, laglag-bariya gang, bakal boys, akyat-bahay gang o kaya sa bubble gang.

150-160 slots per year din for professional basketball players ang pinag-aagawan ng mga 10-12 millions males, age 13-38 all over the archipelago. Siguro imbes na intindihin yung supply ng talent, mas bigyan ng pansin o pag-aaral kung papaano gagawing 20-30 professional teams sa bansa kesa parati nalang sampu, at li-lima, at mayroon pang mga hilaw, lang ang mga may-ari.

Makakatulong din siguro yan sa pagbawas ng mga Hamog Boys if you'll just look or treat that scenario farther and wider.

coach_of_steel
03-05-2012, 04:09 PM
Just imagine a professional league of 20 teams, isang mahabang conference lang from October to June at hiranging PBA National Champion for the season. 20M lang ang franchise fee instead of 60M. Ang pa-sweldo sa mga players eh minimum of 30k and maximum of 200k (strict implementation ng salary cap), 15-18M ang team salary cap per year, wala ng import conference.

At 200k/month (abt USD$4,650)baka hindi narin gaano pagka-interesan ng maraming Fil-Am (Sham) therefore dadami at la-laki na ang opportunity para sa mga homegrown players in the country. Maybe a 20- team league could be achievable and in the longer haul, more economical. Its for the greater good for the greater majority of Filipinos. Diba Erap?

maroonmartian
03-05-2012, 06:47 PM
^ 20 team league? That is what I am thinking. Ala NBA.

First Question:
Ang tanong ko lang po practical ba na yung ilang teams nakabase sa probinsiya? Lahat ng 20 teams may sariling homecourt.

Tingin ko po kasi limited ang development ng PBA kung sa Manila lang karamihan ng laro.

Second Question:
Sino po recruitable big men rookie sa UAAP? (transferees excluded). Napansin ko po na lahat ng big names this year ay guards.

coach_of_steel
03-05-2012, 07:32 PM
^ 20 team league? That is what I am thinking. Ala NBA.

First Question:
Ang tanong ko lang po practical ba na yung ilang teams nakabase sa probinsiya? Lahat ng 20 teams may sariling homecourt.

Tingin ko po kasi limited ang development ng PBA kung sa Manila lang karamihan ng laro.

Second Question:
Sino po recruitable big men rookie sa UAAP? (transferees excluded). Napansin ko po na lahat ng big names this year ay guards.



Tagal mong hindi napadpad, Fighting Martian ah. ;)

Sa unang question mo: bakit hindi? Kung sa ABL nga eh nakakarating pa ng Vietnam, Thailand, Singapore at Indonesia ang dalawang local teams natin na may tigalawang imports pang bitbit. Hindi biro ang bumiyahe papuntang Jakarta coz mga 6-7 hrs din yon including stopover.

Sa inilahad kong franchise fee, pay scale tsaka no imports format, ang laki ng tinipid nun and pwede ng gamitin yung nai-tipid to play more provincial games. Tulong pa sa airline industry natin.

NBA-style or pattern na nga but lower the cost. To be honest with you, ang daming players sa PBA that are making more than 100k/month, with the way they're playing, baka hindi man lang nga worth 60k kung tutuusin.

May mga sumasahod nga ng maximum or 300k pataas tapos iiskor ng 2 points or at times bangko pa. Aray! Maniwala ka. Kahit ibaba mo pa sa 200k/month ang max sa PBA, maglalaro parin naman ang karamihan dyan. Tamaan nalang sana ang konsyensya yung mga magpapa-sahod pa ng under the table.

The times call for these changes lalo in our country na sa basketball lang talaga maganda-ganda ang kita.

genom222
03-05-2012, 09:33 PM
Just imagine a professional league of 20 teams, isang mahabang conference lang from October to June at hiranging PBA National Champion for the season. 20M lang ang franchise fee instead of 60M. Ang pa-sweldo sa mga players eh minimum of 30k and maximum of 200k (strict implementation ng salary cap), 15-18M ang team salary cap per year, wala ng import conference.

At 200k/month (abt USD$4,650)baka hindi narin gaano pagka-interesan ng maraming Fil-Am (Sham) therefore dadami at la-laki na ang opportunity para sa mga homegrown players in the country. Maybe a 20- team league could be achievable and in the longer haul, more economical. Its for the greater good for the greater majority of Filipinos. Diba Erap?


This is what I was talking about Coach!!! Ganyan dapat mangyari! Siguro before maganda yung multi conferences with imports formula pero now parang di na sya ma appeal. I'm all for one long season with 3 round playoffs plus Finals to determine a single PBA champion for that year. Wala nang grandslam, who cares about that anyway? Having multi conferences only lessens the prestige of the championship, heck I dont even remember the past champions of the Commissioner and Governors cups from the past 5 years. All Filipino lang inaabagan ko and for me yun lang ang championship that counts. Imports? It only takes away opportunities from local talent. That is why I loved the MBA concept pero nightmare talaga logistics (plus mejo mismanaged din yun league).

yungha
03-06-2012, 12:22 AM
a 20 team pro league would be a pinoy hoop fan's wet dream. it's ridiculous that players like avenido, laure, ferriols, belasco aren't in the PBA and guys like baclao don't even get to play.

medyo off topic - i'd also like something like a 16-team pro football league, a pro volleyball league and a pro baseball league. para maraming options. imagine the number of jobs that would generate. players here won't get paid as much as PBA players but you get to continue playing the game you love. the leagues can be designed such that you can play and keep your day job. who knows, maybe years from now the leagues will evolve into our version of premier league football and major league baseball.

coach_of_steel
03-06-2012, 03:33 AM
a 20 team pro league would be a pinoy hoop fan's wet dream. it's ridiculous that players like avenido, laure, ferriols, belasco aren't in the PBA and guys like baclao don't even get to play.

medyo off topic - i'd also like something like a 16-team pro football league, a pro volleyball league and a pro baseball league. para maraming options. imagine the number of jobs that would generate. players here won't get paid as much as PBA players but you get to continue playing the game you love. the leagues can be designed such that you can play and keep your day job. who knows, maybe years from now the leagues will evolve into our version of premier league football and major league baseball.


Ang problema lang naman kasi sa volleyball, baseball & football, nahubaran na ang lahat ng kababayan natin na hindi talaga tayo magaling dun kaya baka pati sariling mga anak o kamag-anak ng mga players eh mamroblema pang maka-isip ng alibi para hindi manood sa venue.

Pati nga yung Azkals eh hindi mo malaman kung yung galing ba talaga sa football o ganda ng lalake ang bentahe. And assumng nga na magaling sila, kailangan parin nilang magyaya nalang parati ng kalaban from other parts of the world or else wala silang makakalaban locally.

If there will be sponsors willing to put up teams for a volleyball or football or baseball league, i-likum nalang ang mga sponsors na yan to make the PBA a 20-team league. Mas marami parin kasing mga Pinoy ang mas nakaka-relate sa basketball (yung dribble muna bago shoot). Swak!!

coach_of_steel
03-06-2012, 04:21 AM
a 20 team pro league would be a pinoy hoop fan's wet dream. it's ridiculous that players like avenido, laure, ferriols, belasco aren't in the PBA and guys like baclao don't even get to play.



Just imagine if the NBA has only 15-20 teams. Di malamang wala sanang LINSANITY ngayon. Kaya nga dun sa America, may tinatawag na "The Great American Dream" Bakit hindi umpisahan dito ang "The Great Filipino Dream"??

We should stop catering to a few and allow the involvement of the mass majority to help in the growth of the first professional basketball league in Asia. Growth is good.

If im a team owner and 1 of my max salary player scores only 2-4 points in a particular game, i'd piss in my pants. Dapat spread the wealth and the fame. Players like Al Vergara, Froilan Baguion, Marvin Cruz, Kelvin dela Pena & Jai Reyes for example, may not be comparable on impact to the Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Derrick Rose, Steve Nash, Russell Westbrook, Rajon Rondo, Tony Parker & Kyrie Irving of the NBA but baka pwede silang mga Jameer Nelson, Mario Chalmers, Kyle Lowry, Jrue Holiday, Jarrett Jack, Nate Robinson & Luke Ridnour of the PBA if magka-totoo nga yung 16 teams PBA.

highfidelity
03-06-2012, 11:37 PM
Coach, during your time as a coach in the UAAP, who were the players in other teams that you wish played for you? (if any)

coach_of_steel
03-07-2012, 04:16 AM
Coach, during your time as a coach in the UAAP, who were the players in other teams that you wish played for you? (if any)


Marami. RR Garcia, Al-Hussaini, Kirk Long, Eric Camson, Eric Salamat, PJ Barua & Mike Silungan.

joelex
03-07-2012, 05:53 AM
For you who are the most overrated and underrated players in the PBA right now?

Sam Miguel
03-07-2012, 09:10 AM
^^^ Coach, I think it is safe to say as far back as two or three years ago that Gabe Norwood is a bust.

He's a very athletic 6-foot-5 guard and yet has never shown any ability to dominate a game. He is nowhere near the same class as the likes of Arwind Santos, James Yap, Gary David and even his opwn teammate Paul Lee, as far as being a true, game-changing, difference-making superstar. And yet if we just look at his physical tools and natural ability, it seems he has all the advantages. He has height, length, speed, athleticism, spring, handles, and he grew up playing against relatively bigger and stronger competition in the US.

So why has he not been dominating in the local scene against relatively smaller, less physcially and athletically gifted competition?

coach_of_steel
03-07-2012, 11:59 AM
For you who are the most overrated and underrated players in the PBA right now?



Some of the underrated: Gary David, Sean Anthony, Joseph Yeo, Demok Miranda, Larry Fonacier, Rob Reyes, Chris Ross, Jeff Chan.

Some of the overrated: JC Intal, Mark Borboran, Japeth Aguilar, Gabe Norwood.

And Nonoy Baclao & Rey Guevarra ( only for being labeled/categorized as even or of equal value to Marcio Lassiter).

coach_of_steel
03-07-2012, 12:09 PM
^^^ Coach, I think it is safe to say as far back as two or three years ago that Gabe Norwood is a bust.

He's a very athletic 6-foot-5 guard and yet has never shown any ability to dominate a game. He is nowhere near the same class as the likes of Arwind Santos, James Yap, Gary David and even his opwn teammate Paul Lee, as far as being a true, game-changing, difference-making superstar. And yet if we just look at his physical tools and natural ability, it seems he has all the advantages. He has height, length, speed, athleticism, spring, handles, and he grew up playing against relatively bigger and stronger competition in the US.

So why has he not been dominating in the local scene against relatively smaller, less physcially and athletically gifted competition?


Gabe Norwood had just played 3 seasons in the PBA and this season is his 4th (all with RoS). So far nga, lalo na't #1 overall draft pick pa man din siya nung 2008, he hasn't really met yung expectations sa kanya.

Yung lahat ng puna mo eh sang-ayon naman im sure yung mga naka-subaybay kay Norwood. Kung bakit hindi siya nakakapag-dominate, siguro pwedeng walang kumpiyansa, walang initiative, walang puso, walang gana, walang pakialam, wala sa focus.

jv3
03-07-2012, 02:46 PM
Coach, sa NCAA naman, do you think Gab Banal is a good addition for the Mapua Cardinals? Or magiging conflict sila ni Nimes. What can you say about Banal-Nimes-Taha tandem? Makakapasok na kaya sila sa Final four this coming season? Or kelangan na talaga magpalit ng coach.. haha TIA ;)

bobby1
03-07-2012, 03:34 PM
Coach, I want to get your opinion on some of your fellow coaches, specifically, yung nasa stable ng dalawang dominant basketball groups in Philippine basketball - the SMC and MVP groups. For SMC, you have Tim Cone (Purefoods), Siot Tanquincen (Ginebra), Ato Agusin (Petron), Gee Abanilla (DLSU) and most recently, Rajko Toroman. For the MVP Group naman, you have Chot Reyes (Talk n Text), Ryan Gregorio, (Meralco), Norman Black (Ateneo) and Jong Uchico. From your point of view, meron bang nakaklamang?

Who do you also thing are the upcoming coaches? Not yung necessarily young, but yung hindi pa nabibigyan ng big break. (you may include yourself)

highfidelity
03-07-2012, 09:26 PM
Coach, during your time as a coach in the UAAP, who were the players in other teams that you wish played for you? (if any)


Marami. RR Garcia, Al-Hussaini, Kirk Long, Eric Camson, Eric Salamat, PJ Barua & Mike Silungan.



If RR indeed played for you during 09-10, how do you think he'd mesh with Paul Lee? Parehas nilang kailangan ang bola. Who would be your Jordan and Pippen?

Pa-isa pa coach. Ano ang balita ninyo kay Louie Vigil dati nung "nawala" siya for a year? LV was one of the most prized recruits, if not the most, of the class of 2010. All we know was after he signed with DLSU, then he disappeared from the public's view for a year, not even making DLSU's line up. He emerged a year later in UST, and many people will agree na bumaba ang laro niya. What's the real score coach? I don't think it's academics, otherwise DLSU would've given him the Arvie Bringas treatment.

coach_of_steel
03-07-2012, 10:04 PM
Coach, sa NCAA naman, do you think Gab Banal is a good addition for the Mapua Cardinals? Or magiging conflict sila ni Nimes. What can you say about Banal-Nimes-Taha tandem? Makakapasok na kaya sila sa Final four this coming season? Or kelangan na talaga magpalit ng coach.. haha TIA ;)


Any additions of talent will be a big boost for MIT. Gab is a very talented kid and with Nimes and Taha around, pwedeng sila na yung core na MIT can build around with for the next 3-4 years. With Abueva, Ronald Pascual (until he recuperates from his injury), Garvo Lanete and some of his old Red Lions teamates gone, the next couple of years could be a good chance for MIT to contend for a title.

With coach Victolero, since MIT also seems to be 1 of those institutions who's "in-charge" people believe that an alumnus is the best person to handle their school teams (which i think is a lot of bull), he seemed to have done a pretty decent job recruiting, considering that MIT isn't SBC as far as spending money is concerned.

Yun nga lang iba yung recruiter sa basketball coach. But who knows? 1 year older, maybe 1 year wiser.

coach_of_steel
03-07-2012, 10:48 PM
Coach, I want to get your opinion on some of your fellow coaches, specifically, yung nasa stable ng dalawang dominant basketball groups in Philippine basketball - the SMC and MVP groups. For SMC, you have Tim Cone (Purefoods), Siot Tanquincen (Ginebra), Ato Agusin (Petron), Gee Abanilla (DLSU) and most recently, Rajko Toroman. For the MVP Group naman, you have Chot Reyes (Talk n Text), Ryan Gregorio, (Meralco), Norman Black (Ateneo) and Jong Uchico. From your point of view, meron bang nakaklamang?

Who do you also thing are the upcoming coaches? Not yung necessarily young, but yung hindi pa nabibigyan ng big break. (you may include yourself)



Lahat naman yan breaks and destiny ang primary puhunan. Wala sanang Tim Cone if hindi siya ni-nurture ni Mr. Wilfred Uytengsu(schoolmate yata sila sa International School). I believe it took coach Cone 7 years before he won his 1st championship. Siyempre if you're a dedicated & passionate student of the game, then given ample time to go through trials & errors by your superior, kahit naman sino pwedeng mag-excel in any chosen field.

Boyet Fernandez won a championship with Sta. Lucia in less than 1 year at the helm. Yun nga lang, as fate would have it, na-disband ang SLR but buti nalang isinama siya as an assistant ng nakabili ng franchise na Meralco Bolts.

And how about the run of Ato Agustin. Championships in the NCAA, PBL & PBA in less than 2 years. Ang tinalo pa niya sa NCAA eh SBC and Talk N Text naman sa PBA, mga teams ni Manny Pangilinan. Siyempre big deal yon sa boss niya sa SMC.

Norman Black, naubusan ng team na malilipatan sa PBA 8-9 years ago (nag coach siya for SMB, Pop Cola, Mobiline & Sta. Lucia) and after a not so good start in his 1st 3 years sa Ateneo, sa pag-aaruga at paniniwala ni MVP, sa pagmamahal at pasensya ng Ateneo community, 4 straight UAAP championships.

Ang gagandang mga kwento and everybody only has God to thank for. Every successful story naman starts out with getting a good break or talagang destined to be.

Just think about this, lahat naman ng nabanggit mong mga coaches eh magagaling (siguro) in their own rights. But when it came time to form an ambitious National Team a few years ago, we still reached out halfway around the world in Serbia and hired the man that our SBP believed can pull-off "Mission Impossible". Somebody whom they believed cannot be found in the Philippines.

coach_of_steel
03-07-2012, 11:08 PM
Coach, during your time as a coach in the UAAP, who were the players in other teams that you wish played for you? (if any)


Marami. RR Garcia, Al-Hussaini, Kirk Long, Eric Camson, Eric Salamat, PJ Barua & Mike Silungan.



If RR indeed played for you during 09-10, how do you think he'd mesh with Paul Lee? Parehas nilang kailangan ang bola. Who would be your Jordan and Pippen?

Pa-isa pa coach. Ano ang balita ninyo kay Louie Vigil dati nung "nawala" siya for a year? LV was one of the most prized recruits, if not the most, of the class of 2010. All we know was after he signed with DLSU, then he disappeared from the public's view for a year, not even making DLSU's line up. He emerged a year later in UST, and many people will agree na bumaba ang laro niya. What's the real score coach? I don't think it's academics, otherwise DLSU would've given him the Arvie Bringas treatment.


Having both Paul & RR together in 1 team would've been a nice problem to have for any coach. And since both are combo-guards (diba RR had played beautiful music with Barroca also in the backcourt of FEU?) and both guys are also very cerebral, madali na silang magpali-palitan ng roles. Hayaan mo na ang kalaban ang mamroblema sa amin. ;)

With regards to Louie Vigil, to be honest, 1st time ko siyang nakita last year with UST na. Hindi nga siya impressive. Kundi siya benchwarmer, nagkakalat lang sa loob ng court sa minsanan siyang gamitin. Turnovers, missed lay-ups, naiiwan sa depensa. Pero ang feedback ko last week eh bumabalik na ang laro at kumpiyansa niya. Kung talented talaga siya, he should be fine and makakatulong sa team niya.

Yung tungkol naman sa pagpunta at pag-alis niya sa DLSU, hindi ako privy sa mga pangyayari relating to that issue. Baka alam ni Nap Gutierrez. I'll try to ask him for you. ;)

coach_of_steel
03-07-2012, 11:45 PM
Who do you also thing are the upcoming coaches? Not yung necessarily young, but yung hindi pa nabibigyan ng big break. (you may include yourself)



Look at Dickie Bachmann. Seems like he' been an assistant with Alaska forever. Rhoel Nadurata, kung nasaan man si Yeng Guiao, for sure andun din siya. Allan Caidic, naging player, playing-assistant coach, head coach, team manager at assistant coach sa Ginebra. Ronnie Magsanoc with Ryan Gregorio. Caloy Garcia, assistant to head and back to assistant. Jorge Gallent, Luigi Trillo, 1st time PBA head coach (he's been an assistant before) and UAAP multi-titled coach Franz Pumaren. Junel Baculi & Bong Ramos of Barako. Bo Perasol. Kanya-kanyang kwento, kanya-kanyang kapalaran.

Sa college: Norman Black, Bert Flores, Leo Austria, Pido Jarencio, Eric Altamirano, Gee Abanilla, J. Codinera, Ricky Dandan
Over da bakod: Frankie Lim, Louie Alas, Vergel Meneses, Chito Victolero, Koy Banal, Gerry Esplana, Topex Robinson, Aric Del Rosario(yes, he's back), Bonnie Tan
Kaming mga nasa PBA D-League. Sina Jarencio, Dandan, Boyet Fernandez, Luigi Trillo suma-sideline din dito. ;)

Sina Bobby Parks, Glenn Capacio and Ariel Vanguardia strutting their wares in the ABL.

Para sa akin trabaho lang...walang personalan.

coach_of_steel
03-08-2012, 09:18 AM
I had the opportunity to engage PBA Comm. Chito Salud & PBA Media Bureau Chief Mr. Willie Marcial in small talks over a few drimks at the dinner party of a friend recently, and i opened a discussion regarding the expansion on the number of teams in the PBA and here are some of the responses that i got:

* for them, the desired number of teams in the PBA is 8 (kahit pala mawala pa ang 2 teams eh ok lang)
* 3 conferences per year makes for 3 playoffs/finals yearly (mas marami kasi ang nanonood kapag playoffs na)
* 3 conferences means 3 chances yearly for all the 10 teams to snare a championship (weak teams relying on import)

These are the answers to why the PBA cannot go the route of the NBA when it comes to the number of teams and on the format of just having 1 long conference and disputing 1 title per year.

If you ask me, im sure these guys have made their own study ( they're being paid to do this) and should know whats best for the league. Yung business-side and survival ng liga tiyak ang top priority at isinasaalang-alang at all times.

On the flipside, the PBA D-League's Blackwater Elite team owner Mr. Dioceldo Sy had proposed to Comm. Salud an adjustment on the age limit for players allowed to play in the D-League from 26 to 29 years old. It should be a reprieve of sort for the unlucky ones who won't make it/wouldn't last long in the PBA.

highfidelity
03-08-2012, 03:17 PM
Having both Paul & RR together in 1 team would've been a nice problem to have for any coach. And since both are combo-guards (diba RR had played beautiful music with Barroca also in the backcourt of FEU?) and both guys are also very cerebral, madali na silang magpali-palitan ng roles. Hayaan mo na ang kalaban ang mamroblema sa amin. ;)

With regards to Louie Vigil, to be honest, 1st time ko siyang nakita last year with UST na. Hindi nga siya impressive. Kundi siya benchwarmer, nagkakalat lang sa loob ng court sa minsanan siyang gamitin. Turnovers, missed lay-ups, naiiwan sa depensa. Pero ang feedback ko last week eh bumabalik na ang laro at kumpiyansa niya. Kung talented talaga siya, he should be fine and makakatulong sa team niya.

Yung tungkol naman sa pagpunta at pag-alis niya sa DLSU, hindi ako privy sa mga pangyayari relating to that issue. Baka alam ni Nap Gutierrez. I'll try to ask him for you. ;)


If you have the time and opportunity, please do! Thanks for giving time to answer our questions coach!

coach_of_steel
03-10-2012, 03:10 AM
I have a question for the Bedans following or passing thru this thread: How would you take it or what would your reactions be assuming that i were to be chosen/annointed the next Red Lions coach?

animo
03-10-2012, 10:47 AM
I have a question for the Bedans following or passing thru this thread: How would you take it or what would your reactions be assuming that i were to be chosen/annointed the next Red Lions coach?


coach, siguro ang tanong.... will you accept the offer?

coach_of_steel
03-10-2012, 10:56 AM
I have a question for the Bedans following or passing thru this thread: How would you take it or what would your reactions be assuming that i were to be chosen/annointed the next Red Lions coach?


coach, siguro ang tanong.... will you accept the offer if ever?



Lets stick na muna to my original question, sir. Kaba-bato ko pa lang tapos ibinato mo na agad pabalik sa akin. :)

Pa-sarapin naman natin muna ng konti. :)

fujitsu
03-10-2012, 04:03 PM
baka pwede si dindo pumaren. anyways red cub naman siya dati. so may link at loyalty sa school. he's not lacking in college ball experience as a head coach and as a player. he has guided the ue warriors to a nice run until being ambushed by dlsu. yung experience naman niya as a head coach of dlsu, well lets put is in a positive way. i believe he has handled it well both the expectations of the alumni and the school administration.

Ahura Mazda
03-10-2012, 04:11 PM
I have a question for the Bedans following or passing thru this thread: How would you take it or what would your reactions be assuming that i were to be chosen/annointed the next Red Lions coach?

I'm not a Bedan pero makikisabat lang. :D

The thought of having you as the head coach of the Red Lions is scary.

Baser Amer being coached by the Lawrence Chongson... :o

kerouac82
03-10-2012, 04:26 PM
I have a question for the Bedans following or passing thru this thread: How would you take it or what would your reactions be assuming that i were to be chosen/annointed the next Red Lions coach?

I'm not a Bedan pero makikisabat lang. :D

The thought of having you as the head coach of the Red Lions is scary.

Baser Amer being coached by the Lawrence Chongson... :o


Paul Lee 2.0? Puwede. :D

coach_of_steel
03-10-2012, 05:15 PM
I have a question for the Bedans following or passing thru this thread: How would you take it or what would your reactions be assuming that i were to be chosen/annointed the next Red Lions coach?

I'm not a Bedan pero makikisabat lang. :D

The thought of having you as the head coach of the Red Lions is scary.

Baser Amer being coached by the Lawrence Chongson... :o



Bakit naman?

coach_of_steel
03-10-2012, 05:18 PM
baka pwede si dindo pumaren. anyways red cub naman siya dati. so may link at loyalty sa school. he's not lacking in college ball experience as a head coach and as a player. he has guided the ue warriors to a nice run until being ambushed by dlsu. yung experience naman niya as a head coach of dlsu, well lets put is in a positive way. i believe he has handled it well both the expectations of the alumni and the school administration.


I couldn't agree more and your observations are very much valid...pero parang malayo yung sagot mo sa tanong ko ah. ;)

coach_of_steel
03-10-2012, 05:20 PM
I have a question for the Bedans following or passing thru this thread: How would you take it or what would your reactions be assuming that i were to be chosen/annointed the next Red Lions coach?

I'm not a Bedan pero makikisabat lang. :D

The thought of having you as the head coach of the Red Lions is scary.

Baser Amer being coached by the Lawrence Chongson... :o


Paul Lee 2.0? Puwede. :D


How bout Baser Amer 1.0 ??

coach_of_steel
03-10-2012, 05:23 PM
baka pwede si dindo pumaren. anyways red cub naman siya dati. so may link at loyalty sa school. he's not lacking in college ball experience as a head coach and as a player. he has guided the ue warriors to a nice run until being ambushed by dlsu. yung experience naman niya as a head coach of dlsu, well lets put is in a positive way. i believe he has handled it well both the expectations of the alumni and the school administration.
.

I also went to San Beda in my 2nd year of high school and Dindo Pumaren was a former classmate as well. In fact, we sat about 3 rows of seats apart.

animo
03-10-2012, 05:25 PM
baka pwede si dindo pumaren. anyways red cub naman siya dati. so may link at loyalty sa school. he's not lacking in college ball experience as a head coach and as a player. he has guided the ue warriors to a nice run until being ambushed by dlsu. yung experience naman niya as a head coach of dlsu, well lets put is in a positive way. i believe he has handled it well both the expectations of the alumni and the school administration.


afaik, ironcoach is a bedan.
studied in SBC for a year?

Stardust
03-10-2012, 07:02 PM
Iron Coach, I firmly believe that as far as we Bedan GFers are concerned, you will be welcomed with open arms. Now that you have rubbed elbows with Lion so much more. You have earned our respect and admiration.

Go San Beda, Fight!

coach_of_steel
03-11-2012, 04:51 AM
Iron Coach, I firmly believe that as far as we Bedan GFers are concerned, you will be welcomed with open arms. Now that you have rubbed elbows with Lion so much more. You have earned our respect and admiration.

Go San Beda, Fight!



Thamk you. Let me reiterate that my question is purely hypothetical in nature. But i will assure you that if ever it does happen, wherever or whatever institution or entity it may be, i will always pour my heart and soul to the task...alumnus or not.

At the end of the day, it will still boil down to capability. Being an alumnus or simply being loyal won't suffice. Believe me. Or better yet, ask coach Norman.

animo
03-11-2012, 08:25 AM
Iron Coach, I firmly believe that as far as we Bedan GFers are concerned, you will be welcomed with open arms. Now that you have rubbed elbows with Lion so much more. You have earned our respect and admiration.

Go San Beda, Fight!



Thamk you. Let me reiterate that my question is purely hypothetical in nature. But i will assure you that if ever it does happen, wherever or whatever institution or entity it may be, i will always pour my heart and soul to the task...alumnus or not.

At the end of the day, it will still boil down to capability. Being an alumnus or simply being loyal won't suffice. Believe me. Or better yet, ask coach Norman.



coach, hypothetical din.
you will only have 3 months to prepare, kaya pa ba?
do you think SBC has the material for getting the grand slam considering that they are already 0-2 even before the season starts?

btw, coach... how much ba ang asking salary & bonuses ng isang coach with your caliber?

coach_of_steel
03-11-2012, 09:39 AM
Iron Coach, I firmly believe that as far as we Bedan GFers are concerned, you will be welcomed with open arms. Now that you have rubbed elbows with Lion so much more. You have earned our respect and admiration.

Go San Beda, Fight!



Thamk you. Let me reiterate that my question is purely hypothetical in nature. But i will assure you that if ever it does happen, wherever or whatever institution or entity it may be, i will always pour my heart and soul to the task...alumnus or not.

At the end of the day, it will still boil down to capability. Being an alumnus or simply being loyal won't suffice. Believe me. Or better yet, ask coach Norman.


coach, hypothetical din.
you will only have 3 months to prepare, kaya pa ba?
do you think SBC has the material for getting the grand slam considering that they are already 0-2 even before the season starts?

btw, coach... how much ba ang asking salary & bonuses ng isang coach with your caliber?


It would've made a whole lot of difference if Lanete & Marcelo were still around. Plus the fact that their new import has been suspended for the entire season, didn't quite make things any easier either.

It will be tough but the remaining talents should be able to hurdle UPHR, EAC, Lyceum, and maybe CSB without a hitch. Therefore, they'll just need to slug it out with SSC, MIT, JRU, Letran & Arellano for a final4 slot and hopefully, the team would've peaked when September rolls along and will its way for a shot at the title.

With regards naman to my paycheck, lahat naman yan eh napag-uusapan pero siguro mas mainam na na hindi na pag-usapan dito. I hope you understand.

animo
03-11-2012, 10:40 AM
Iron Coach, I firmly believe that as far as we Bedan GFers are concerned, you will be welcomed with open arms. Now that you have rubbed elbows with Lion so much more. You have earned our respect and admiration.

Go San Beda, Fight!



Thamk you. Let me reiterate that my question is purely hypothetical in nature. But i will assure you that if ever it does happen, wherever or whatever institution or entity it may be, i will always pour my heart and soul to the task...alumnus or not.

At the end of the day, it will still boil down to capability. Being an alumnus or simply being loyal won't suffice. Believe me. Or better yet, ask coach Norman.


coach, hypothetical din.
you will only have 3 months to prepare, kaya pa ba?
do you think SBC has the material for getting the grand slam considering that they are already 0-2 even before the season starts?

btw, coach... how much ba ang asking salary & bonuses ng isang coach with your caliber?


It would've made a whole lot of difference if Lanete & Marcelo were still around. Plus the fact that their new import has been suspended for the entire season, didn't quite make things any easier either.

It will be tough but the remaining talents should be able to hurdle UPHR, EAC, Lyceum, and maybe CSB without a hitch. Therefore, they'll just need to slug it out with SSC, MIT, JRU, Letran & Arellano for a final4 slot and hopefully, the team would've peaked when September rolls along and will its way for a shot at the title.

With regards naman to my paycheck, lahat naman yan eh napag-uusapan pero siguro mas mainam na na hindi na pag-usapan dito. I hope you understand.


Re Ola, the foreign student athlete, based on what i've read so far... he and the 10 or 11 players will be serving 2 games suspension. complete line up on the third game. that's why 0-2 ang partida. fyi
who knows... baka may ala Jeremy Lin na lumabas na lang bigla ;D

coach_of_steel
03-11-2012, 11:54 AM
Iron Coach, I firmly believe that as far as we Bedan GFers are concerned, you will be welcomed with open arms. Now that you have rubbed elbows with Lion so much more. You have earned our respect and admiration.

Go San Beda, Fight!



Thamk you. Let me reiterate that my question is purely hypothetical in nature. But i will assure you that if ever it does happen,
wherever or whatever institution or entity it may be, i will always pour my heart and soul to the task...alumnus or not.

At the end of the day, it will still boil down to capability. Being an alumnus or simply being loyal won't suffice. Believe me. Or better yet, ask coach Norman.


coach, hypothetical din.
you will only have 3 months to prepare, kaya pa ba?
do you think SBC has the material for getting the grand slam considering that they are already 0-2 even before the season starts?

btw, coach... how much ba ang asking salary & bonuses ng isang coach with your caliber?



It would've made a whole lot of difference if Lanete & Marcelo were still around. Plus the fact that their new import has been suspended for the entire season, didn't quite make things any easier either.

It will be tough but the remaining talents should be able to hurdle UPHR, EAC, Lyceum, and maybe CSB without a hitch. Therefore, they'll just need to slug it out with SSC, MIT, JRU, Letran & Arellano for a final4 slot and hopefully, the team would've peaked when September rolls along and will its way for a shot at the title.

With regards naman to my paycheck, lahat naman yan eh napag-uusapan pero siguro mas mainam na na hindi na pag-usapan
dito. I hope you understand.


Re Ola, the foreign student athlete, based on what i've read so far... he and the 10 or 11 players will be serving 2 games suspension. complete line up on the third game. that's why 0-2 ang partida. fyi
who knows... baka may ala Jeremy Lin na lumabas na lang bigla ;D


Ang pagkaka-intindi ko eh 1-season suspension si Ola. But i may have been misinformed.

pio_valenz
03-11-2012, 01:02 PM
Coach I think the one-year ban on Ola covers entering venues of other NCAA sports (because the incident happened during a volleyball game). His ban on playing is 2 games nga yata. But I could be wrong. Perhaps our friends from the Den can enlighten us.

coach_of_steel
03-12-2012, 10:18 PM
Just got in from the Crown Colony late last night. Its been raining there almost everyday on top of being very cold. Perfect weather for eating and sleeping. ;) Twas my last minute R&R before the start of our D-League grind beginning this Thursday. The PBA D-League 2012 2nd conference actually starts tomorrow but my team's sked to go on Thursday vs Cebuana Gems.

Wala bang pa-goodluck dyan mga ka-Hoops Scoopers?? Thanks in advance. :D

LION
03-12-2012, 10:46 PM
Just got in from the Crown Colony late last night. Its been raining there almost everyday on top of being very cold. Perfect weather for eating and sleeping. ;) Twas my last minute R&R before the start of our D-League grind beginning this Thursday. The PBA D-League 2012 2nd conference actually starts tomorrow but my team's sked to go on Thursday vs Cebuana Gems.

Wala bang pa-goodluck dyan mga ka-Hoops Scoopers?? Thanks in advance. :D


What a coincidence. I just got back from the Crown Colony, too, straight from NAIA 2 an hour ago. Kung alam ko lang na nandun ka coach e di sana nag-inuman tayo. It was indeed a rainy week in HK and that kind of restricted our movement. Nagkataon pa na may convention ang mga IP lawyers dun kaya sangkatutak ang mga abugadong pinoy na nandun. I saw a lot of my lawyer-friends at the HK airport this afternoon. Maybe half of PR 307's passengers were lawyers, I reckon, and that plane is a 747 - 400 jumbo.

Anyways, I just saw your question coach. If you were chosen to be the new coach for the SBC Red Lions, I'd welcome you with open arms. Papahaba rin ako ng buhok. ;D

coach_of_steel
03-13-2012, 12:09 AM
Just got in from the Crown Colony late last night. Its been raining there almost everyday on top of being very cold. Perfect weather for eating and sleeping. ;) Twas my last minute R&R before the start of our D-League grind beginning this Thursday. The PBA D-League 2012 2nd conference actually starts tomorrow but my team's sked to go on Thursday vs Cebuana Gems.

Wala bang pa-goodluck dyan mga ka-Hoops Scoopers?? Thanks in advance. :D


What a coincidence. I just got back from the Crown Colony, too, straight from NAIA 2 an hour ago. Kung alam ko lang na nandun
ka coach e di sana nag-inuman tayo. It was indeed a rainy week in HK and that kind of restricted our movement. Nagkataon pa na may convention ang mga IP lawyers dun kaya sangkatutak ang mga abugadong pinoy na nandun. I saw a lot of my lawyer-friends at the HK airport this afternoon. Maybe half of PR 307's passengers were lawyers, I reckon, and that plane is a 747 - 400 jumbo.

Anyways, I just saw your question coach. If you were chosen to be the new coach for the SBC Red Lions, I'd welcome you with open arms. Papahaba rin ako ng buhok. ;D



Sayang. We (me, boss Bong and 3 other friends) were at Lan Kwai Fong lang till 4am last Saturday night. We (boss Bong and i) also had late dinner naman with MVP last Friday. Yup. We also took PR 307 coming back.

I had my hair cut short na (the shortest its been in the last 7 years). No need to grow yours. ;)

genom222
03-13-2012, 02:16 AM
Sayang. We (me, boss Bong and 3 other friends) were at Lan Kwai Fong lang till 4am last Saturday night. We (boss Bong and i) also had late dinner naman with MVP last Friday. Yup. We also took PR 307 coming back.

I had my hair cut short na (the shortest its been in the last 7 years). No need to grow yours. ;)


baka naman may napagusapan kayong Coach Opening ni MVP Sir? hehe seriously since Bedista ka rin pala Coach, would you accept a one-year contract to coach the RL? Or until we can get Coach Frankie back.

coach_of_steel
03-13-2012, 02:40 AM
Sayang. We (me, boss Bong and 3 other friends) were at Lan Kwai Fong lang till 4am last Saturday night. We (boss Bong and i) also had late dinner naman with MVP last Friday. Yup. We also took PR 307 coming back.

I had my hair cut short na (the shortest its been in the last 7 years). No need to grow yours. ;)


baka naman may napagusapan kayong Coach Opening ni MVP Sir? hehe seriously since Bedista ka rin pala Coach, would you accept a one-year contract to coach the RL? Or until we can get Coach Frankie back.



Whatever conversations that transpired that night with MVP were all casual in nature. And Its also not my style para pangunahan ang mga bagay na ganyan. Respeto ko narin sa isang kapwa kong basketball coach tulad ni coach Frankie that i don't tamper or cross the line sa baluarte niya.

But to give a hypothetical answer to your hypothetical question, if a 1-season deal were to be offered to me to handle the coaching chores at SBC: Yes. I'll take it. For the challenge, for the confidence in my ability to succeed, to be able to showcase to you guys what i can bring to the table. For those reasons, i will accept it.

Joescoundrel
03-13-2012, 07:35 AM
Dahil mahal na mahal ko ang mga kaibigan kong Bedista I say, if offered, "Take the job!" Coach.

Kung sakali naman coach you will still have a deep and talented team even without Ola and Juice (knock on wood). You have Jake Pascual, Kyle Pascual, Rome Dela Rosa, Baser Amer and Anjoe Caram who are as good a starting five as any in the country. And this would be a reunion of sorts between you and Kinsman Frando.

coach_of_steel
03-13-2012, 08:56 AM
Dahil mahal na mahal ko ang mga kaibigan kong Bedista I say, if offered, "Take the job!" Coach.

Kung sakali naman coach you will still have a deep and talented team even without Ola and Juice (knock on wood). You have Jake Pascual, Kyle Pascual, Rome Dela Rosa, Baser Amer and Anjoe Caram who are as good a starting five as any in the country. And this would be a reunion of sorts between you and Kinsman Frando.


Kahit na sa isang season lang...i can turn Frando into a star.

animo
03-13-2012, 10:28 AM
Sayang. We (me, boss Bong and 3 other friends) were at Lan Kwai Fong lang till 4am last Saturday night. We (boss Bong and i) also had late dinner naman with MVP last Friday. Yup. We also took PR 307 coming back.

I had my hair cut short na (the shortest its been in the last 7 years). No need to grow yours. ;)


baka naman may napagusapan kayong Coach Opening ni MVP Sir? hehe seriously since Bedista ka rin pala Coach, would you accept a one-year contract to coach the RL? Or until we can get Coach Frankie back.



Whatever conversations that transpired that night with MVP were all casual in nature. And Its also not my style para pangunahan ang mga bagay na ganyan. Respeto ko narin sa isang kapwa kong basketball coach tulad ni coach Frankie that i don't tamper or cross the line sa baluarte niya.

But to give a hypothetical answer to your hypothetical question, if a 1-season deal were to be offered to me to handle the coaching chores at SBC: Yes. I'll take it. For the challenge, for the confidence in my ability to succeed, to be able to showcase to you guys what i can bring to the table. For those reasons, i will accept it.


coach pag napa champion niyo ang RL this season if ever... you will be putting us, including the Boss, in a dilemma. imagine RL having 2 champion coach and will be coaching the same team ;D
will it be ok if you slide down as one of RL asst. coach after the season?

animo
03-13-2012, 10:47 AM
Dahil mahal na mahal ko ang mga kaibigan kong Bedista I say, if offered, "Take the job!" Coach.

Kung sakali naman coach you will still have a deep and talented team even without Ola and Juice (knock on wood). You have Jake Pascual, Kyle Pascual, Rome Dela Rosa, Baser Amer and Anjoe Caram who are as good a starting five as any in the country. And this would be a reunion of sorts between you and Kinsman Frando.


Kahit na sa isang season lang...i can turn Frando into a star.


hmmm... very interesting. ;D

sk8frk
03-13-2012, 12:54 PM
Pwedeng pwede coach kaso payag ka bang pakalbo ;D

reforms
03-13-2012, 02:12 PM
In return, papahaba daw si coach FL. :)

coach_of_steel
03-13-2012, 04:24 PM
Sayang. We (me, boss Bong and 3 other friends) were at Lan Kwai Fong lang till 4am last Saturday night. We (boss Bong and i) also had late dinner naman with MVP last Friday. Yup. We also took PR 307 coming back.

I had my hair cut short na (the shortest its been in the last 7 years). No need to grow yours. ;)


baka naman may napagusapan kayong Coach Opening ni MVP Sir? hehe seriously since Bedista ka rin pala Coach, would you accept a one-year contract to coach the RL? Or until we can get Coach Frankie back.



Whatever conversations that transpired that night with MVP were all casual in nature. And Its also not my style para pangunahan ang mga bagay na ganyan. Respeto ko narin sa isang kapwa kong basketball coach tulad ni coach Frankie that i don't tamper or cross the line sa baluarte niya.

[But to give a hypothetical answer to your hypothetical question, if a 1-season deal were to be offered to me to handle the
coaching chores at SBC: Yes. I'll take it. For the challenge, for the confidence in my ability to succeed, to be able to showcase to you guys what i can bring to the table. For those reasons, i will accept it.[/b]


coach pag napa champion niyo ang RL this season if ever... you will be putting us, including the Boss, in a dilemma. imagine RL having 2 champion coach and will be coaching the same team ;D
will it be ok if you slide down as one of RL asst. coach after the season?


If ever that wishful thinling were indeed to happen, no matter the outcome, i will walk away quietly right after the final buzzer of the final game...and i won't even look back.

coach_of_steel
03-13-2012, 09:48 PM
Pwedeng pwede coach kaso payag ka bang pakalbo ;D


Hell no!!!

coach_of_steel
03-13-2012, 09:50 PM
In return, papahaba daw si coach FL. :)


Di ba ang sagwa nun?? Magiging shaggy siya. Shagilid lang siya long hair niyan. ;)

reforms
03-14-2012, 04:26 PM
^Haha. Quits lang coach, pareho nyong ayaw magiging hairstyle nyo. :D

Medyo maiba tayo.. Coach what can you say about the Azkals- Cristy Ramos issue? Definitely basketball teams can still relate to it since may dugout/locker room din yan.

Pano ba kayo sa locker room? Do you have rules and do you watch over your "kids" as well?

coach_of_steel
03-14-2012, 05:21 PM
^Haha. Quits lang coach, pareho nyong ayaw magiging hairstyle nyo. :D

Medyo maiba tayo.. Coach what can you say about the Azkals- Cristy Ramos issue? Definitely basketball teams can still relate to it since may dugout/locker room din yan.

Pano ba kayo sa locker room? Do you have rules and do you watch over your "kids" as well?


That issue cudve been avoided if the principal characters in that brouhaha simply observed proper etiquette.

1) Ms. Ramos, being a lady, should've known better than just to stride nonchalantly inside an occupied men's locker room, being a sportswoman herself, without first informing or better yet, asking her staff to make the necessary precautions.

2) The players, assuming they were on a high or rowdy being "boys", should've instantly behaved, cover-up assuming they weren't dressed properly and given respect, if not to a high Philippine sports official, at least to a lady no matter her stature or personality.

Clearly avoidable kung hindi lang sana bara-bara at merong pag-iingat and marunong lang sana ng courtesy. In the end, everyone's a loser.

red_engr1987
03-15-2012, 05:10 PM
ironcoach - what can you say about NY Knicks Head Coach resigning after a six game losing streak lastly what happened to Jeremy fever is it over now when the team fails to live up to NY fans expectations. Presently NY Knicks is on the 9th or 10thplace in the East which is outside of the playoff :(

zoom2k7
03-15-2012, 05:42 PM
IMHO yun mga kagaya kasi ng systema nila Don Nelson at Mike D' Antoni na fast pace offensive strategy can only win games on regular season, pagdating ng playoffs or pag nakatapat ng mga team nila yun mga well rounded system like Gregg popovich system eh nagfafalter yun mga fast pace system. Isang local example nyan yun nangyari sa UE nun 2007. One thing i like most sa system ni Ironcoach eh parang buffet yun system nya mukha lang sabog sabog pero kung titignan kung mo nag aadjust lang sila for every situation and they maximize on their oppurtunity on each possesion.

coach_of_steel
03-15-2012, 07:32 PM
ironcoach - what can you say about NY Knicks Head Coach resigning after a six game losing streak lastly what happened to Jeremy fever is it over now when the team fails to live up to NY fans expectations. Presently NY Knicks is on the 9th or 10thplace in the East which is outside of the playoff :(


Nakakapag-taas ng kilay nga yung pagka-salang kay Carmelo Anthony nung ito'y nakabalik from an injury. Why spoil the brew if you're on a winning streak and the momentum is on your side? In short, if it ain't broke, why fix it?

Is it because of Carmelo's huge salary? Ano bang clout meron si Anthony sa mga bossing ng Knicks? Obviously, hindi na basketball ang dahilan dyan kundi pulitika. Diniktahan kaya ng management si D' Antoni? Clearly, when Carmelo was inserted into the starting line-up in the middle of their winning streak, combined with the hiring of J.R. Smith...they themselves killed Linsanity.

Lin may not realistically be an all-star caliber NBA baller but fate and luck (and God) was on his side during that stretch and surprisingly, pati luto ng langit...tinanggihan pa ng Knicks management.

At kung tama nga ang hinala ng karamihan na nadiktahan or nabigyan lang ng ultimatum si D'Antoni, he should've resigned right there and then at hindi na hinintay na inunahan pa siyang patalsikin. He eventually paid the price for his fickled principles. Ang bilis ng hustisya sa kanya for selling his (coaches') soul to the devil.

coach_of_steel
03-15-2012, 08:06 PM
When i was still with UE more than a year ago, having my contract renewed could've been a breeze if i only knew how to kiss ass. If only i were the "po" "opo" "yes po" kind of a leech, maybe i'd still be there. After all, i've just brought them to heights & summits that they haven't scaled in more than 2 decades.

I was forewarned earlier to make amends with the powers-that be over there but somehow, because of pride & principle, i simply couldn't thickened my face thick enough to do it. I will never be anyone's bitch, all the more sa mga ma-impluwensya nga pero ignorante naman sa pamamalakad ng basketball team.

Today, after more than just a year, i feel fine. I feel so good for sticking to my principles. How many times have we seen yung mga grabe na nga kung sumipsip at mag "yes sir" "po" "opo" at yung nilu-lunok ang sariling mga beliefs pero in the end, inilaglag din. Ang sakit siguro nun at mahabang panahong pagsi-sisi ang magiging kahihinatnan.

Well, D'Antoni was dealing with U.S. Dollars kaya siguro na no-choice lang siya unlike in my case, Philippine Peso naman and divided by 42.85 pa kaya siguro mas hindi mahirap ang mag angas-angasan.

coach_of_steel
03-15-2012, 08:30 PM
IMHO yun mga kagaya kasi ng systema nila Don Nelson at Mike D' Antoni na fast pace offensive strategy can only win games on regular season, pagdating ng playoffs or pag nakatapat ng mga team nila yun mga well rounded system like Gregg popovich system eh nagfafalter yun mga fast pace system. Isang local example nyan yun nangyari sa UE nun 2007. One thing i like most sa system ni Ironcoach eh parang buffet yun system nya mukha lang sabog sabog pero kung titignan kung mo nag aadjust lang sila for every situation and they maximize on their oppurtunity on each possesion.


Before you even entertain the thoughts of coaching a basketball team, you've gotta know a bit of psychology, a bit of sociology, a bit of geometry and whole lot of determination and character.

Sure, anybody can be a basketball coach. Even the barber across the street has a handful of ideas on how to run a basketball team or about substitution patterns. May mga marami ngang alam sa basketball pero kulang sa eloquence or simply walang dating. Meron ding mga hindi naman gaano ka-knowledgeable pero ang galing mang-sales talk. Naipa-pasa sa lahat ng players (or at least yung mga key players) yung desperation tsaka importansya ng manalo. Yung handang isangla ang kaluluwa manalo lang. It takes talent. Or at least, or mostly, its a gift from heaven.

Sam Miguel
03-16-2012, 09:15 AM
NCAA sets ‘duel’ with UAAP

A MORE aggressive NCAA will compete with the UAAP head on this year, setting a television faceoff with its rival varsity league and vowing to bring games to the provinces.

The NCAA announced during hosting turnover rites yesterday that TV5 will air its games Mondays, Thursdays and Saturdays. The Thursday and Saturday schedules clash with the UAAP games aired on those same days on ABS-CBN’s Studio 23.

“The goal is really to be a national athletic league and to reach out to other Filipinos in the country,” Letran rector and president Rev. Fr. Tamerlane Lana, O.P. said in the league’s turnover ceremony yesterday in the Knights’ campus.

Perpetual Help president Dr. Anthony Tamayo turned over the hosting chores of Season 88 to Letran, led by Lana and athletic director and league representative Fr. Vic Calvo.

“It will be a head-to-head battle with the UAAP,” said Calvo, adding that the league will bring its basketball games to provinces, where amateur hoops still draws interest.

The NCAA recently hooked up with TV5 via a three-year deal after toiling under the shadows of the UAAP at Studio 23.

Coach I got this from Inquirer Sports.

What are your thoughts on this?

Can the NCAA compete (viewership, merchandise, recognition, overall brand equity) on even terms with the UAAP?

coach_of_steel
03-16-2012, 10:08 AM
NCAA sets ‘duel’ with UAAP

A MORE aggressive NCAA will compete with the UAAP head on this year, setting a television faceoff with its rival varsity league and vowing to bring games to the provinces.

The NCAA announced during hosting turnover rites yesterday that TV5 will air its games Mondays, Thursdays and Saturdays. The Thursday and Saturday schedules clash with the UAAP games aired on those same days on ABS-CBN’s Studio 23.

“The goal is really to be a national athletic league and to reach out to other Filipinos in the country,” Letran rector and president Rev. Fr. Tamerlane Lana, O.P. said in the league’s turnover ceremony yesterday in the Knights’ campus.

Perpetual Help president Dr. Anthony Tamayo turned over the hosting chores of Season 88 to Letran, led by Lana and athletic director and league representative Fr. Vic Calvo.

“It will be a head-to-head battle with the UAAP,” said Calvo, adding that the league will bring its basketball games to provinces, where amateur hoops still draws interest.

The NCAA recently hooked up with TV5 via a three-year deal after toiling under the shadows of the UAAP at Studio 23.

Coach I got this from Inquirer Sports.

What are your thoughts on this?

Can the NCAA compete (viewership, merchandise, recognition, overall brand equity) on even terms with the UAAP?


Just like with the UAAP schools, marami rin namang alumni, past & present students, employees ang mga NCAA schools. Nandiyan din yung mga friends & relatives ng mga team members na tiyak, sila ang panonoorin naman. Sana lang makagawa o maka-isip din ng mga gimmicks ang mga teams ng UPHR, EAC, Arellano and yung Lyceum on how to attract viewers whenever these teams are playing. Just imagine sitting infront of your TV set at ang naglalaban sa TV eh UPHR vs Lyceum, malamang mapalipat ka sa Pinoy Big Brother ng di-oras and i can't blame you.

I also believed that the NC Board overdid themselves by expanding their team roster to 10 (buti nga nawala yung Angeles Foundation Univ.). It became too dragging for a school league at naging mas mahaba pa sa isang regular conference ng PBA. The NC usually opens 2-weeks ahead and ends 2-weeks later of the UAAP tapos marami namang boring games.

Ang isa pang magandang tanong diyan or ang mas kaabang-abang eh yung quality ng telecast presentations between Studio23 & AKTV tsaka yung clarity ng reception between channels 15 & 23. Sino kaya ang mas magpapa-excite or, on the other hand, magpapa-antok sa mga televiewers?

genom222
03-16-2012, 04:54 PM
ang solusyon sa TV signal na yan ay lipat na lang kayo sa Cingal Digital hehe sobrang linaw ng mga channel plus may nga HD channels pa! (ooopss sorry sa shameless plug)

Coach - there are rumors going around that this TV coverage might not push through if San Beda decides to leave the league. Do you think that has bearing? Also, do you think the NCAA can really go up against the UAAP with or without San Beda?

coach_of_steel
03-16-2012, 06:44 PM
ang solusyon sa TV signal na yan ay lipat na lang kayo sa Cingal Digital hehe sobrang linaw ng mga channel plus may nga HD channels pa! (ooopss sorry sa shameless plug)

Coach - there are rumors going around that this TV coverage might not push through if San Beda decides to leave the league. Do you think that has bearing? Also, do you think the NCAA can really go up against the UAAP with or without San Beda?


San Beda won't leave the NCAA. Saan sila pupunta? All the gastos sa programa at recruitment?? Pagbabanta lang yan ng mayayaman at baka matinag o masindak ang mahihirap.

If not for the NCAA's loose and short-sighted policy-making that didn't prevent the influx of imported mercenaries in our collegiate leagues, Sam Ekwe wouldn't have happened and SBC's stature in the collegiate basketball scene won't be what it seems to be today.

james_hunt
03-16-2012, 07:27 PM
ang solusyon sa TV signal na yan ay lipat na lang kayo sa Cingal Digital hehe sobrang linaw ng mga channel plus may nga HD channels pa! (ooopss sorry sa shameless plug)

Coach - there are rumors going around that this TV coverage might not push through if San Beda decides to leave the league. Do you think that has bearing? Also, do you think the NCAA can really go up against the UAAP with or without San Beda?


San Beda won't leave the NCAA. Saan sila pupunta? All the gastos sa programa at recruitment?? Pagbabanta lang yan ng mayayaman at baka matinag o masindak ang mahihirap.

If not for the NCAA's loose and short-sighted policy-making that didn't prevent the influx of imported mercenaries in our collegiate leagues, Sam Ekwe wouldn't have happened and SBC's stature in the collegiate basketball scene won't be what it seems to be today.


You shoot straight from the hip, coach! Well said!

animo
03-16-2012, 09:41 PM
NCAA sets ‘duel’ with UAAP

A MORE aggressive NCAA will compete with the UAAP head on this year, setting a television faceoff with its rival varsity league and vowing to bring games to the provinces.

The NCAA announced during hosting turnover rites yesterday that TV5 will air its games Mondays, Thursdays and Saturdays. The Thursday and Saturday schedules clash with the UAAP games aired on those same days on ABS-CBN’s Studio 23.

“The goal is really to be a national athletic league and to reach out to other Filipinos in the country,” Letran rector and president Rev. Fr. Tamerlane Lana, O.P. said in the league’s turnover ceremony yesterday in the Knights’ campus.

Perpetual Help president Dr. Anthony Tamayo turned over the hosting chores of Season 88 to Letran, led by Lana and athletic director and league representative Fr. Vic Calvo.

“It will be a head-to-head battle with the UAAP,” said Calvo, adding that the league will bring its basketball games to provinces, where amateur hoops still draws interest.

The NCAA recently hooked up with TV5 via a three-year deal after toiling under the shadows of the UAAP at Studio 23.


Coach I got this from Inquirer Sports.

What are your thoughts on this?

Can the NCAA compete (viewership, merchandise, recognition, overall brand equity) on even terms with the UAAP?


let me share my opinion on this...
hell will freeze if ncaa comes even a mile close to uaap.
not in this life time my friend.

coach_of_steel
03-16-2012, 09:52 PM
ang solusyon sa TV signal na yan ay lipat na lang kayo sa Cingal Digital hehe sobrang linaw ng mga channel plus may nga HD channels pa! (ooopss sorry sa shameless plug)

Coach - there are rumors going around that this TV coverage might not push through if San Beda decides to leave the league. Do you think that has bearing? Also, do you think the NCAA can really go up against the UAAP with or without San Beda?


San Beda won't leave the NCAA. Saan sila pupunta? All the gastos sa programa at recruitment?? Pagbabanta lang yan ng mayayaman at baka matinag o masindak ang mahihirap.

If not for the NCAA's loose and short-sighted policy-making that didn't prevent the influx of imported mercenaries in our collegiate leagues, Sam Ekwe wouldn't have happened and SBC's stature in the collegiate basketball scene won't be what it seems to be today.


You shoot straight from the hip, coach! Well said!


I have also found out that i can be too frank to a fault. But "shooting straight from the hip" will always be much better than getting shot on the hip instead. Peace.

coach_of_steel
03-18-2012, 09:10 AM
We got team building in Baguio beginning today till Wednesday. I swear by & believe in the importance of this event as a tool to bring out the best in some people within a team on any kind of endeavor and not just basketball.

Bringing a bunch of peopke to believe & achieve a common goal and being on the same page. Its the pouring of the mind & soul into wanting to overachieve while defying all the odds.

As the head coach of my team, in these team building sessions, my main job is to sell to my team the importance, the desperation, of winning basketball games and on how it can be easier to achieve thru teamwork. I've gotta sell them the idea that winning basketball games is so much more important than anything else in the world. But on the side, accidentally or otherwise, im basically just preaching to them to seize the moment. Just being the best you that you can be.

oca
03-18-2012, 11:26 AM
San Beda won't leave the NCAA. Saan sila pupunta? All the gastos sa programa at recruitment?? Pagbabanta lang yan ng mayayaman at baka matinag o masindak ang mahihirap.

If not for the NCAA's loose and short-sighted policy-making that didn't prevent the influx of imported mercenaries in our collegiate leagues, Sam Ekwe wouldn't have happened and SBC's stature in the collegiate basketball scene won't be what it seems to be today.



It has to be pointed out that before Ekwe started his residency at SBC in Mendiola, DLSU—a UAAP member-- already had a foreign high school recruit fulfilling the 2-yr country residency rule of the UAAP. DLSU's recuit started his residency at LSGH.

Marko Batricevic played in the NCAA Jrs in S80. Ekwe started serving residency in S81 and started playing in S82.

Ano punto ko?

Nakikita lang ng public si Ekwe, SBC at ang NCAA sa pagdagsa ng foreign players sa collegiate basketball dahil naging matagumpay ang Red Lions nung S82.

Pero bago dumating si Ekwe nag-recruit na ang DLSU, na miembro nga ng UAAP, ng foreign player. Di lang napakinabangan ng lubusan ng DLSU ang recruit nila dahil sa injuries. Pero hindi sa NCAA nagsimula ang current practice na ito.

LION
03-18-2012, 03:01 PM
San Beda won't leave the NCAA. Saan sila pupunta? All the gastos sa programa at recruitment?? Pagbabanta lang yan ng mayayaman at baka matinag o masindak ang mahihirap.

If not for the NCAA's loose and short-sighted policy-making that didn't prevent the influx of imported mercenaries in our collegiate leagues, Sam Ekwe wouldn't have happened and SBC's stature in the collegiate basketball scene won't be what it seems to be today.



It has to be pointed out that before Ekwe started his residency at SBC in Mendiola, DLSU—a UAAP member-- already had a foreign high school recruit fulfilling the 2-yr country residency rule of the UAAP. DLSU's recuit started his residency at LSGH.

Marko Batricevic played in the NCAA Jrs in S80. Ekwe started serving residency in S81 and started playing in S82.

Ano punto ko?

Nakikita lang ng public si Ekwe, SBC at ang NCAA sa pagdagsa ng foreign players sa collegiate basketball dahil naging matagumpay ang Red Lions nung S82.

Pero bago dumating si Ekwe nag-recruit na ang DLSU, na miembro nga ng UAAP, ng foreign player. Di lang napakinabangan ng lubusan ng DLSU ang recruit nila dahil sa injuries. Pero hindi sa NCAA nagsimula ang current practice na ito.


This is where I will have to disagree with ironcoach.

Loose and short-sighted policy of the NCAA? What is that policy? From what I recall, the NCAA ALLOWS every school to have a maximum of 2-foreign athletes, BUT ONLY ONE only can play at any given time. This rule applies to every school, without exception. If a school wants to avail of this policy, it's fair and square. If a school chooses not to, it's also fair and square.

Since the policy applies to and can be availed of by every school, it means that this policy does not give any undue advantage to a particular school.

Now, how does this NCAA policy differ from that of the UAAP? Is there any difference at all? Papano naging maluwag ang NCAA at mahigpit ang UAAP?

Sa UAAP nga allowed pa ang masteral students, mga gurang papalabanin sa mga bata. That is why the UAAP had to impose another rule to regulate the recruitment of so-called masteral students. But I digress.

Why the fixation of certain people against San Beda's foreign players? San Sebastian won championships in the NCAA women's volleyball because of their Thai recruits. This happened even before San Beda won the finals in 2006. But no one's complaining about the Thai players despite their dominant play. Other NCAA schools have foreign athletes in their other teams, as well. But no one is raising hell about that. Why is the discrimination so selective? In the UAAP, UP just won the men's football competition a foreigner in their team. No one's complaining about that, not the rest of the league.

JRU, in fact, had 2 Africans in their roster 2-3 years ago. These Africans, Njei (6'0) and Joe Etame (6'9) are very good basketball players. Njei played for 3 years while Etame for 2 years. But did JRU win any championship with those 2 foreign athletes? Does having a foreign athlete automatically make you a championship contender?

Let's talk about Sam Ekwe. Coach, did you see Sam Ekwe when he arrived here? He knew nothing about basketball. He was the laughing stock of students then when people saw him play for the first time in the summer games in 2005. He didn't know how to dribble and shoot. SBC taught Ekwe basketball. People don't know that.

Adamson. They had Austin Manara for 4 - 5 years. Did they win any championship? FEU had Robert Kave and Pipo Nonduo. Did they win any championship?

And oca is right. Even before San Beda took in Ekwe, DLSU got Marco Batricevic and smartly enrolled him in LSGH as a high school student to shoot 2 birds with one stone, i.e., hopefully end LSGH's basketball drought and make DLSU later on a champion team. But ACL injuries thwarted this. To be precise, DLSU had 2 foreign players in their basketball team, Ferdinand the Indonesian and Marco the Serbian.

So, I ask, which particular NCAA policy is loose and short-sighted? Which league started recruiting foreign players?

LION
03-18-2012, 03:11 PM
"shooting straight from the hip" means inaccurate shooting. Not taking precise aim. Sometimes you hit the target.Most of the time you miss.

It is exciting because it is a product of candid and raw thinking, but is unreliable because it does not have the benefit of research and accurate information.

The_Big_Cat
03-19-2012, 11:20 AM
The FEU Tamaraws had American Anthony Williams in the late 1970s. He led FEU to the 1979, 1980 and 1981 UAAP Men's Seniors championships. Two out of that 3 titles, FEU swept the UAAP. Anthony Williams also became the 1981 UAAP MVP.

Bakit wala naman nagrereklamo during that time?

Mananambol
03-19-2012, 12:32 PM
How about Vladimir Joe and Ma Meng? :)

animo
03-19-2012, 12:39 PM
^^
is Ma the korean who played for the altas 4 or 5 yrs ago?

sk8frk
03-19-2012, 12:57 PM
^^
is Ma the korean who played for the altas 4 or 5 yrs ago?


Si Lee ata yun

admiral thrawn
03-19-2012, 02:26 PM
Kayo naman..foreign players are disliked and should be banned only if the two conditions are satisfied:
1) The player is very good;
2) If the player is wearing a jersey that is Red and White colors bearing the name "San Beda".

razor
03-19-2012, 02:30 PM
^^
is Ma the korean who played for the altas 4 or 5 yrs ago?


Si Lee ata yun


He's probably referring to Ma Ming; the brother of Ma Jian (a mainstay of the Chinese national team).

Ma Ming was recruited by ateneo in the 90s to play for their school but somehow never made it to the UAAP lineup.

coach_of_steel
03-20-2012, 04:32 AM
Coach - there are rumors going around that this TV coverage might not push through if San Beda decides to leave the league. Do you think that has bearing? Also, do you think the NCAA can really go up against the UAAP with or without San Beda?


Eto kasi yung tanong na sinagot ko kaya nagamit kong example si Ekwe, ang San Beda at ang NCAA. Kung ang La Salle ang tinanong sa akin na nagte- threaten na lumayas ng UAAP, si Batricevic (at Ferdinand and kung sinu-sino pang mga imports nila) naman ang ang pwede ko ring gawing example. At kung JRU naman ang magte-threaten na sumibat sa NC, sina Njei & Joe naman ang isa-cite ko.

The short-sightedness sa policy-making naman na tinutukoy ko eh yung nung nase-sense na sana ng NCAA (same goes with the UAAP) na more and more teams are resorting to the quick-fix solution of hiring mercenaries, umi-step in na sana sila kaagad para hindi na ito lumawak pa into uncontrollable proportions. Hindi porke't age-old practice na yan eh hindi na pwedeng baguhin for the sake of our home-grown talents na hangad ding makakuha ng scholarships thru basketball.

Wala akong discrimination aimed at SBC ( or any other schools for that matter). Natanong lang po ako at sinagot ko lang according to my honest personal opinion at that given time. Shooting from the hip can also mean being spontaneous. Nothing scripted and
without malice.

joelex
03-20-2012, 04:46 AM
NLEX, Air21 w/o import, SMB-ABL w/o imports, Air Asia-ABL w/o imports.

How would you rank them and how much disparity do you think would each have on the other?

LION
03-20-2012, 10:20 AM
Coach - there are rumors going around that this TV coverage might not push through if San Beda decides to leave the league. Do you think that has bearing? Also, do you think the NCAA can really go up against the UAAP with or without San Beda?


Eto kasi yung tanong na sinagot ko kaya nagamit kong example si Ekwe, ang San Beda at ang NCAA. Kung ang La Salle ang tinanong sa akin na nagte- threaten na lumayas ng UAAP, si Batricevic (at Ferdinand and kung sinu-sino pang mga imports nila) naman ang ang pwede ko ring gawing example. At kung JRU naman ang magte-threaten na sumibat sa NC, sina Njei & Joe naman ang isa-cite ko.

The short-sightedness sa policy-making naman na tinutukoy ko eh yung nung nase-sense na sana ng NCAA (same goes with the UAAP) na more and more teams are resorting to the quick-fix solution of hiring mercenaries, umi-step in na sana sila kaagad para hindi na ito lumawak pa into uncontrollable proportions. Hindi porke't age-old practice na yan eh hindi na pwedeng baguhin for the sake of our home-grown talents na hangad ding makakuha ng scholarships thru basketball.

Wala akong discrimination aimed at SBC ( or any other schools for that matter). Natanong lang po ako at sinagot ko lang according to my honest personal opinion at that given time. Shooting from the hip can also mean being spontaneous. Nothing scripted and
without malice.


All is well, coach. No malice imputed to you at all. The "fixation" I mentioned was directed towards those who discriminate without thinking.

Keep on writing. Don't let this exchange of opinion stop you or make you think twice about posting your raw and candid thoughts. Keep on "shooting from the hip", so to speak. It is what makes your own forum a blockbuster hit. ;D

animo
03-20-2012, 10:54 AM
coach, just wondering... where do you draw the line between mercenaries and legit foreign student athletes?
afaik, there are also full blooded pinoys who pretend to be student athletes (some even over age), yet not tag as mercenaries.

coach_of_steel
03-20-2012, 07:08 PM
coach, just wondering... where do you draw the line between mercenaries and legit foreign student athletes?
afaik, there are also full blooded pinoys who pretend to be student athletes (some even over age), yet not tag as mercenaries.


I suppose yung iko-consider na legit foreign students-athletes are those who came to the Philippines on their own then enrolled to study in a particular school, then later on tried out for the varsity(whatever sports) and made the team. And yung tulad ni Kirk Long na sa Faith Academy nagtapos ng high school (just like Paul Tan Chi).

Pero yung mga na-hire ala PBA imports (pinadalhan o ni-reimburse yung plane fares), ini-lako ng mga sports agents, sinadya pang i-recruit either from Africa or the US (or any other countries for that matter) at tumatanggap ng allowance (whether from the school or from a booster) na double, triple or quadruple more than most of his teamates...siguro maitu-turing na nating mercenaryo yon. Don't you think?

LION
03-20-2012, 09:35 PM
coach, just wondering... where do you draw the line between mercenaries and legit foreign student athletes?
afaik, there are also full blooded pinoys who pretend to be student athletes (some even over age), yet not tag as mercenaries.


I suppose yung iko-consider na legit foreign students-athletes are those who came to the Philippines on their own then enrolled to study in a particular school, then later on tried out for the varsity(whatever sports) and made the team. And yung tulad ni Kirk Long na sa Faith Academy nagtapos ng high school (just like Paul Tan Chi).

Pero yung mga na-hire ala PBA imports (pinadalhan o ni-reimburse yung plane fares), ini-lako ng mga sports agents, sinadya pang i-recruit either from Africa or the US (or any other countries for that matter) at tumatanggap ng allowance (whether from the school or from a booster) na double, triple or quadruple more than most of his teamates...siguro maitu-turing na nating mercenaryo yon. Don't you think?


By your definition, coach, almost all fil-foreigners will be considered mercenaries too. Same with locals who were recruited from the provinces and given plane tickets and given allowances.

If that is the case, konti na lang ang maituturing na legit student-athletes, i.e., those who are not blue chips and not highly recruited.

oca
03-21-2012, 06:54 AM
Regardless of the terms and come ons that brings a talent over to any program, when he fulfills the "student" part of being a student-athlete he can and should never be referred to as a mercenary.

But I must say, there is a variable X in the equation. If the school compels their student-athletes to be students off the court and the kid passes on his own merits at di inareglo ang grades then malinaw na di yan mercenaryo.

Basta totoong nag-aaral--- kahit inabutan yan ng di kapani-paniwalang halaga buwan-buwan at may pa-kotse at ang inuuwian niya ay isang condo unit--- di nating pwedeng tawaging mercenaryo yan. Kahit pasang awa, pero kung di areglo ang grades di yan mercenaryo. Student-athlete yan!

Ano pakialam natin kung talagang galante ang mga boosters nila!

At kung tutuusin, karamihan ng problema sa collegiate sports ay nandun sa mga tao sa likod ng team.

The kid can only go where these people will allow them to go. The kid will do what these people will only condone.

LION
03-21-2012, 01:02 PM
Am proud to say, our red lions spend a lot of time in the library and they don't go to recto for their thesis. The team has a full time academic adviser who ensures that the players do attend their classes and fulfill all academic requirements, regardless of their status as locals, fil-fors or pure foreigners.

Even when guys like Sam Ekwe, Aljamal, Escobal, Menor, etc., were no longer eligible to play and got drafted in the PBA, they stayed in school to finish their studies and graduate.

Sa ibang eskwelahan, kahit mga locals nila umaalis na sa eskwelahan pag di na pwede maglaro. Di na tinatapos ang pag aaral. Sino ngayon sa kanila ang tunay na student - athlete? I can name the players from other schools who didnt bother finishing their studies. Lumalabas, sila ang mga mercenaries.

Reality? Being a mercenary has nothing to do with citizenship or blood. I can say with certainty, mas maraming local players na mercenaries kesa sa mga foreigners.

gfy
03-21-2012, 04:22 PM
My one centavo comment. Some schools offer out-of-this world fringe benefits to talented ballers, whether local or imported, which in a way does not contribute to a level playing field. These should be regulated just like in the States. I know a few schools in the UAAP and NCAA which have said that they don't have the budget or funds to recruit these players and can't compete with other schools for them.

LION
03-21-2012, 04:59 PM
My one centavo comment. Some schools offer out-of-this world fringe benefits to talented ballers, whether local or imported, which in a way does not contribute to a level playing field. These should be regulated just like in the States. I know a few schools in the UAAP and NCAA which have said that they don't have the budget or funds to recruit these players and can't compete with other schools for them.


You must be talking about NU, gfy, and some other UAAP schools.

2 years ago, NU offered a top Red Lion an "out-of-this-world" package to leave SBC and transfer to NU. The monthly allowance offered was 3x higher, on top of a nice condo unit as living quarter plus other mall perks. ;)

Where the hell are Njei and Joe Etame now? Are they still studying? ;)

joelex
03-22-2012, 12:41 AM
Ano pakialam natin kung talagang galante ang mga boosters nila!





Bosing, maling mali yang statement mo. May regulation dapat, kung sa pro basketball may salary cap to ensure level playing field, what more sa college.