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mrlibog
09-01-2011, 10:37 PM
ano option ni acibar if he doesnt get signd by barako?

Joescoundrel
09-02-2011, 11:15 AM
^ ABL... ;D

Coach, totoo bang ikaw ng new head coach ng Philippine Patriots?

chowkingaddict
09-02-2011, 11:22 AM
Nagbabakasakali lang ako, Coach, na baka may nasasagap kang balita at maaari mong pabulaanan ang usap-usapan na si Gee Abanilla na ang hahawak sa DLSU sa isang taon.

toti_mendiola
09-02-2011, 02:59 PM
Aantayin pa ba ang Octobeer? Bat di pa ngayong Septembeer?

siyanga! :)





Isinama ko rito yung nauna kong post ha. I also thought SBC would be able to hack it out pero nagkamali ako.

Kelan ba ang 2nd round match-up ng Beda-Baste?? Basta sa araw na yan manalo- matalo to-toma tayo.

october pa coach. pero sige coach toma tayo ha. dun tayo sa tomaan na ang sounds eh manila sound. meron pa kaya nun?
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Ok sa TYA sa tapat ng ABS-CBN & East St. Louis Bar. Puro 80's & 90's ang sounds doon. Karamihan pa ng mga lady patrons dun kundi hiwalay sa asawa, mga hot mommas! ;)


Okay coach. me hirit si bchoter coach. ngayong september na lang daw coach. hehe. ako pwede ako anong araw basta magpapa alam lang. ;D

bchoter
09-02-2011, 03:13 PM
^ Maganda kung pagkatapos ng laro ng UE para ma dissect yung game :D

maroonmartian
09-02-2011, 06:19 PM
ano option ni acibar if he doesnt get signd by barako?


Sana ngayon may pera na sila at Air21 management (bought the franchise name) di gaya dati. ;D

Yung kay issue kay Casio, he is the best in the pick really as shown in the Gilas games. And Coke need a BETTER PG and solid froncourt. Si Acibar nagtataka ako kung bakit pinagpalit siya sa mga maliliit na guards (Salamat, Raymundo) for teams na loaded na sa guards.

Another question for coach:
Saan mas magandang madevelop si Junmar Fajardo (or mga unknown players)? PBA D-League or ABL? Saan mas malaki kita?

ironcoach
09-02-2011, 07:18 PM
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ah ok.... sorry coach mejo naguluhan ako, so was Casio chosen because he is the "safe pick" and not because he was the best player in the draft? Sakin naman walang mali but for me personally I would go for the best player in the draft (which is still difficult for me to determine since this draft is actually very even ang level ng mga draftees, i actually think di malakas tong draft na toh IMO)

thanks ule coach!
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In a 1 on 1 halfcourt game between Paul Lee & Casio...and obligado kang itaya ang girlfriend mo....kanino ka tataya???

ironcoach
09-02-2011, 07:22 PM
ano option ni acibar if he doesnt get signd by barako?


God forbid huwag naman sana. But if its inevitable, we're in discussions with a couple of other teams to serve as fallbacks. And if that still proves to be a blankwall, he can always hook up with some D- League teams as a last resort.

ironcoach
09-02-2011, 07:23 PM
^ ABL... ;D

Coach, totoo bang ikaw ng new head coach ng Philippine Patriots?


Not true...as we speak.

ironcoach
09-02-2011, 07:23 PM
Nagbabakasakali lang ako, Coach, na baka may nasasagap kang balita at maaari mong pabulaanan ang usap-usapan na si Gee Abanilla na ang hahawak sa DLSU sa isang taon.


Wala akong balita...as we speak.

ironcoach
09-02-2011, 07:25 PM
Ok sa TYA sa tapat ng ABS-CBN & East St. Louis Bar. Puro 80's & 90's ang sounds doon. Karamihan pa ng mga lady patrons dun kundi hiwalay sa asawa, mga hot mommas! ;)


Okay coach. me hirit si bchoter coach. ngayong september na lang daw coach. hehe. ako pwede ako anong araw basta magpapa alam lang. ;D
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Sa parents o kay kumander??

ironcoach
09-02-2011, 07:35 PM
^ Maganda kung pagkatapos ng laro ng UE para ma dissect yung game :D


UE-FEU or UE- UP??? But then...what is there to dissect???

genom222
09-02-2011, 07:37 PM
ah ok.... sorry coach mejo naguluhan ako, so was Casio chosen because he is the "safe pick" and not because he was the best player in the draft? Sakin naman walang mali but for me personally I would go for the best player in the draft (which is still difficult for me to determine since this draft is actually very even ang level ng mga draftees, i actually think di malakas tong draft na toh IMO)

thanks ule coach!
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In a 1 on 1 halfcourt game between Paul Lee & Casio...and obligado kang itaya ang girlfriend mo....kanino ka tataya???
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gets ko na coach hehehe thanks sa pagsagot!

toti_mendiola
09-02-2011, 08:04 PM
Ok sa TYA sa tapat ng ABS-CBN & East St. Louis Bar. Puro 80's & 90's ang sounds doon. Karamihan pa ng mga lady patrons dun kundi hiwalay sa asawa, mga hot mommas! ;)


Okay coach. me hirit si bchoter coach. ngayong september na lang daw coach. hehe. ako pwede ako anong araw basta magpapa alam lang. ;D


Sa parents o kay kumander??
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kumander coach. sanay naman ako matulog sa labas ng kulambo eh. hehe.

toti_mendiola
09-02-2011, 08:07 PM
Okay coach sa ten years after. sige. tama info mo coach. kaya pala madalas dun yung kakilala ko. dami pala mujer. hehehe

ironcoach
09-02-2011, 08:16 PM
Sana ngayon may pera na sila at Air21 management (bought the franchise name) di gaya dati. ;D

Yung kay issue kay Casio, he is the best in the pick really as shown in the Gilas games. And Coke need a BETTER PG and solid froncourt. Si Acibar nagtataka ako kung bakit pinagpalit siya sa mga maliliit na guards (Salamat, Raymundo) for teams na loaded na sa guards.

Another question for coach:
Saan mas magandang madevelop si Junmar Fajardo (or mga unknown players)? PBA D-League or ABL? Saan mas malaki kita?
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Best gauge ba ang mga Gilas games to determine the better-suited PBA player, in your opinion??? Doe the average PBA fan spend his hard-earned peso to watch a Ritualo over a Caguioa?? a Fonacier over a Cyrus Baguio?? Does Powerade really run a Toroman-like system??

HONESTLY, i prayed hard for Lee to land on Rain or Shine and Yeng Guiao. Answered prayers. Knowing Guiao, i suspect he bluffed Powerade into drafting Casio so he can nab Lee with the 2nd pick (my suspicion was confirmed by RoS team owner Terry Que today).
Now im not saying that Lee will for surely have the better pro career than Casio in the long haul. All im saying is that if you know your Pinoy or PBA-brand of basketball...then Paul Lee is the draft pool's Pound for Pound king.

As for your question regarding Fajardo, i sincerely believe he should join Gilas. Then after a year or 2, apply for the PBA Draft using his Gilas stint as his credential.

ironcoach
09-02-2011, 08:28 PM
Okay coach sa ten years after. sige. tama info mo coach. kaya pala madalas dun yung kakilala ko. dami pala mujer. hehehe


The truth is, i've only been to TYA about 3-4 times all of last year and only once this year ( about 2 weeks ago). And HONESTLY, im not really a big fan of ladies more than 29 years old....seriously.

LION
09-03-2011, 02:38 PM
^ uhhhh coach you're missing a lot then..... ;D

Sama ako pero don't mind me if I will not join in the discussion. ;D

animo
09-03-2011, 10:09 PM
Ok sa TYA sa tapat ng ABS-CBN & East St. Louis Bar. Puro 80's & 90's ang sounds doon. Karamihan pa ng mga lady patrons dun kundi hiwalay sa asawa, mga hot mommas! ;)


coach, yan pala tambayan mo huh? ;D mahilig ka pala sa hot mommas ;D

ironcoach
09-04-2011, 11:07 AM
Ok sa TYA sa tapat ng ABS-CBN & East St. Louis Bar. Puro 80's & 90's ang sounds doon. Karamihan pa ng mga lady patrons dun kundi hiwalay sa asawa, mga hot mommas! ;)


coach, yan pala tambayan mo huh? ;D mahilig ka pala sa hot mommas ;D




As i've posted, have went there not more than 5-6 times ever and only once this year. And again, as i've posted earlier, im no fan of 30+ year old women (nothing against them but yun ang phobia ko).

duphaR007
09-06-2011, 01:18 AM
coach, nakita kita sa glorieta kasama si misis. gandan ng hairdo mo ngayon ah. bagong kulay din ata. ;D

coach kelan ba ang d league? 1x a year lang ba yun? sino mga new players mo sa cobra if ever? UE pa din ba?

Joescoundrel
09-06-2011, 09:45 AM
Okay coach sa ten years after. sige. tama info mo coach. kaya pala madalas dun yung kakilala ko. dami pala mujer. hehehe


The truth is, i've only been to TYA about 3-4 times all of last year and only once this year ( about 2 weeks ago). And HONESTLY, im not really a big fan of ladies more than 29 years old....seriously.


Kelan na ba ito...?

ironcoach
09-06-2011, 10:53 AM
coach, nakita kita sa glorieta kasama si misis. gandan ng hairdo mo ngayon ah. bagong kulay din ata. ;D

coach kelan ba ang d league? 1x a year lang ba yun? sino mga new players mo sa cobra if ever? UE pa din ba?


Hindi ko misis yon. Im single. She's my gf.

The D-League will start on Oct.22. It is 2 conferences from mid-October till mid-June. Parang PBL lang din ang duration. Cobra has decided to drop me & my team and they will instead sponsor the UE team with some additions (6 players nalang na eligible for UAAP ang pwede nilang i-line up sa Cobra).

My agreement with Cobra is until the end of March, 2012 pa pero they've informed me na a few weeks ago that they are discontinuing my sponsorship. This came about on the day that UE lost to NU by 40 pts in the UAAP. After the game, somebody told Asia Brewery company president Michael Tan that i was supposedly spotted celebrating UE's massacre (which i swear wasn't true, eventhough i don't see why it should be a big deal in the 1st place).

It didn't sit well kuno (seems like there's something more than meets the eye) with the Asia Brewery honcho since sister company nga ang UE. May chumuchu din sa kanya na kesyo i sold UE players to other schools daw (which also isn't true at all). Except for Paul Lee, who wished to turn pro instead of playing under another coach, all of the players that aren't with UE anymore, pinag-tatanggal nila yon including Acibar and 6'7 Cameroonian Henri Betayene.

Ginawa pang smokescreen sa failure nila sa UAAP ang mga kasinungalingan at para maagaw pa ang sponsor ko para sa D-League. Siguro akala nila magaling sila at hindi sila titigil hangga't hindi nila ako nati-tiris ng pinung-pino. Pero ang hindi nila naisip, ang lakas ng karma sa basketball. I've been in this business for 12 years so i should know.

Its just too bad na hindi talaga marunong sa Basketball 101 ang presidente ng Asia Brewery at too gullible also for a man of his stature. How can you just listen to 1 side of a story then make a conclusion right away without hearing the other side?? And i thought its 2011 na and sa dami na ng movies na napanood natin, hindi na nangyayari ang mga ganito.

Well, at my age, i rely on destiny and circumstances nalang. Wake up call din na anyone can be a victim of paninira and yung mga naninira pa can be in disguise of decent people pa man din. Ingat nalang next time.

ironcoach
09-06-2011, 10:55 AM
Okay coach sa ten years after. sige. tama info mo coach. kaya pala madalas dun yung kakilala ko. dami pala mujer. hehehe


The truth is, i've only been to TYA about 3-4 times all of last year and only once this year ( about 2 weeks ago). And HONESTLY, im not really a big fan of ladies more than 29 years old....seriously.


Kelan na ba ito...?


Ok ba kayo ng weekdays???

red_engr1987
09-06-2011, 11:23 AM
@ironcoach - what do you mean COBRA is out in PBA D-LEAGUE? the whole COBRA team, Head Coach and your coaching staff. So what happen to your contract will they honor it until 2012 or they just terminate it with a note verbal. Somebody is really chasing your neck even your already out of the UE Red Warriors Team. The usual suspect is no other than the mastermind :(

ironcoach
09-06-2011, 05:21 PM
@ironcoach - what do you mean COBRA is out in PBA D-LEAGUE? the whole COBRA team, Head Coach and your coaching staff. So what happen to your contract will they honor it until 2012 or they just terminate it with a note verbal. Somebody is really chasing your neck even your already out of the UE Red Warriors Team. The usual suspect is no other than the mastermind :(


May COBRA parin sa D-League but this time, it will be Codinera's team na with 6 of the current UE players that can stil play in the UAAP (you need at least 2 UAAP seasons tucked under your belt for a player not to lose his UAAP eligibility by the time he plays in a commercial league) + maybe Enguio, Zamar, Tagarda ( all of whom have ran out of collegiate eligibility after this season), then dagdag nalang ng mga tryouts or veteran free agents.

Pati yung isang natitira kong bread & butter hinigop pa mula sakin. Pero ang pinaka-malungkot dito, nagtagumpay sila sa pag-divert nung incompetence & blunder nila in handling this UAAP season's disgrace into becoming my fault parin. Ni hindi nga ako lumapit man lang sa Araneta Coliseum these past several months, kasalanan ko parin?? Isinumbong sa Cobra boss na ibinenta ko raw ang ilang mga UE players sa ibang mga schools. Sino??? Si Betayene tinanggal nila yon before i helped the poor foreigner latch on to NU. Sina Acibar, Trollano, Abrigo, Rosopa at Cagalawan, sila ang sumibak sa mga yan.

At yung isa pang issue, ipinag-diwang ko raw yung pagka-tambak ng UE sa NU by 40 pts kaya in a sense, kinakalaban ko raw ang UE. First thing first, i DID NOT celebrate that humiliation at all. I've got nothing to do with UE anymore. Secondly, hindi ba pang-pribadong buhay ko na yon assuming i did go out and celebrate??? Basta lang ba hindi ko ginawa yan sa Recto, sa Dalupan Hall or sa loob ng UE Marketing office!!!

But at the end of the day, its 1 thing na may gustong mang-wasak sayo...and another thing na may maniwala dun sa pansu-sulsol. Akala ko pa naman 2011 na at wais na ang mga tao ngayon. Nakakalungkot.

tulf
09-06-2011, 06:51 PM
@ironcoach
IMHO di kaya may kinalalaman din yun dun sa sinabi mo na yun cobra drink is not safe na inumin, at kahit yun players ng cobra di umiinum nuon!

ironcoach
09-06-2011, 07:15 PM
@ironcoach
IMHO di kaya may kinalalaman din yun dun sa sinabi mo na yun cobra drink is not safe na inumin, at kahit yun players ng cobra di umiinum nuon!



Hi. Wherever you got or read that supposedly statement of mine, kindly backread nalang please. I have never said anything like that in my life. In fact, ako yata ang loudest endorser ng Asia Brewery products sa buong Pilipinas. Ganun ako ka- loyal. Yung mga beer na gawa namin, parati kong ibini- bida sa lahat ng inumang aking dinaluhan. Ako narin yata ang pinaka-maraming na-consume na Coors Light Beer dito sa bansa. Hindi ko lang siya ibini-bida...talagang tinu-tungga ko pa siya.

Maybe yung ikina-lito mo yung pinost ko dati sa Pinoy Exchange yung tungkol sa pinagbawalan ni UE team manager Jess Tanchanco ang mga UE players na uminom ng Cobra kasi raw masama yun sa kanilang kalusugan. Tapos yun pala lalapitan niya rin pala nung wala na ako sa UE para hingan ng sponsorship. Tapos ngayon pa sa D- League, Cobra parin ang sponsor nila.

Baka yun yung tinutukoy mong kwento at HINDI AKO ang may sabi nun. Imposibleng sabihin ko yon kasi loyal ako sa benefactor ko na si Mr. Bong Tan. Alam narin ni boss Bong yung lahat ng katotohanan dun pati narin yung brand manager ng Cobra. Malakas lang talaga si Ka Jess sa mga bossing namin kaya maski na nag-blunder na, pinalalampas nalang.

tulf
09-07-2011, 12:53 AM
@ironcoach
IMHO di kaya may kinalalaman din yun dun sa sinabi mo na yun cobra drink is not safe na inumin, at kahit yun players ng cobra di umiinum nuon!



Hi. Wherever you got or read that supposedly statement of mine, kindly backread nalang please. I have never said anything like that in my life. In fact, ako yata ang loudest endorser ng Asia Brewery products sa buong Pilipinas. Ganun ako ka- loyal. Yung mga beer na gawa namin, parati kong ibini- bida sa lahat ng inumang aking dinaluhan. Ako narin yata ang pinaka-maraming na-consume na Coors Light Beer dito sa bansa. Hindi ko lang siya ibini-bida...talagang tinu-tungga ko pa siya.

Maybe yung ikina-lito mo yung pinost ko dati sa Pinoy Exchange yung tungkol sa pinagbawalan ni UE team manager Jess Tanchanco ang mga UE players na uminom ng Cobra kasi raw masama yun sa kanilang kalusugan. Tapos yun pala lalapitan niya rin pala nung wala na ako sa UE para hingan ng sponsorship. Tapos ngayon pa sa D- League, Cobra parin ang sponsor nila.

Baka yun yung tinutukoy mong kwento at HINDI AKO ang may sabi nun. Imposibleng sabihin ko yon kasi loyal ako sa benefactor ko na si Mr. Bong Tan. Alam narin ni boss Bong yung lahat ng katotohanan dun pati narin yung brand manager ng Cobra. Malakas lang talaga si Ka Jess sa mga bossing namin kaya maski na nag-blunder na, pinalalampas nalang.


My apology coach!
tama ka coach i was reffering to that statement, medyo nalito na rin ako! wasnt able to back read na din, kasi di ko na din alam kung saan ko hahanapin or kung saan ko nabasa yun statement na yun!
again my apology coach!

ironcoach
09-07-2011, 01:17 AM
[quote=tulf ]
@ironcoach

Baka yun yung tinutukoy mong kwento at HINDI AKO ang may sabi nun. Imposibleng sabihin ko yon kasi loyal ako sa benefactor ko na si Mr. Bong Tan. Alam narin ni boss Bong yung lahat ng katotohanan dun pati narin yung brand manager ng Cobra. Malakas lang talaga si Ka Jess sa mga bossing namin kaya maski na nag-blunder na, pinalalampas nalang.


My apology coach!
tama ka coach i was reffering to that statement, medyo nalito na rin ako! wasnt able to back read na din, kasi di ko na din alam kung saan ko hahanapin or kung saan ko nabasa yun statement na yun!
again my apology coach!


Wala yon. Don't worry about it. After what i've experienced sa UE, balewala na yan. Sumasagi nga lately sa utak ko na parang napaka-laking pagkakamali ang pagtanggap ko sa coaching job na yon. While i was almost hailed as a hero there just less than 2
years ago, at best coach in the country kung ipakilala sa mga taga-doon, ngayon naman kung pagsa-saksakin ako ng talikuran
Eh para namang may napakalaking kasalananakong nagawa sa kanila at para ding wala akong nai-contribute sa kanila.

Kung yung inabono ko sa pagkain ng team na umabot ng almost 800 thousand eh nagkalimutan na nga at kahit masakit para sa akin eh hindi ko na sila inu-usisa, tapos hindi pa na-kuntento at sinisiraan pa ako. Pero ganun pa man, sa tagal ko na sa basketball, alam ko na may karma din yan. Tiyak yon. Tingnan mo lang.

zoom2k7
09-07-2011, 05:43 AM
akalain mo nga naman oh ang alam kong mga school teams na inaakyat sa amateur commercial leagues eh mga winning teams kagaya ng magnolia feu , excelroof san sebastian at maynilad san beda akalain mong mapapabilang pa dito yun UE? AMAAZIiiiiNG yan if that plan pushes through wag lang sana maging kagaya ng teletech yan ;D

tama mabilis ang karma sa basketball kaya hayaan mo na lang sa kanila yun coach :)

maroonmartian
09-07-2011, 08:10 AM
^Coach ano ang tingin mo sa ASEAN Basketball League? Or a coaching stint abroad (like Coach Ariel Vanguardia)? Are you considering it now tanggal na kayo sa PBL D-League? Is it a viable place also for local players (especially the amateurs) to hone their skills before going to PBA (di pa kasi comparable ang ABL sa ligang ito sa sahod at kumpetisyon)? Naalala ko lang kasi si Junmar Fajardo of UC. Di nagpadraft. ABL daw muna.

toti_mendiola
09-07-2011, 09:25 AM
Okay coach sa ten years after. sige. tama info mo coach. kaya pala madalas dun yung kakilala ko. dami pala mujer. hehehe


The truth is, i've only been to TYA about 3-4 times all of last year and only once this year ( about 2 weeks ago). And HONESTLY, im not really a big fan of ladies more than 29 years old....seriously.


Kelan na ba ito...?


Ok ba kayo ng weekdays???

okay ako coach.

ironcoach
09-07-2011, 09:55 AM
^Coach ano ang tingin mo sa ASEAN Basketball League? Or a coaching stint abroad (like Coach Ariel Vanguardia)? Are you considering it now tanggal na kayo sa PBL D-League? Is it a viable place also for local players (especially the amateurs) to hone their skills before going to PBA (di pa kasi comparable ang ABL sa ligang ito sa sahod at kumpetisyon)? Naalala ko lang kasi si Junmar Fajardo of UC. Di nagpadraft. ABL daw muna.

Basketball is basketball is basketball whatever and wherever that might be. And for a basketball coach like me, if its a job and kung magkakasundo naman kami ng employer with regards to the terms and conditions...kahit pa NBA yan eh papatulan ko na rin. But im not totally out of a job in the PBA (hindi PBL) D-League. My friend/benefactor Mr. Bong Tan will put up another team for me to handle. I will carry BORACAY RUM naman this time and im hopinb to be able to generate a following for the brand, just like what i've done for Cobra in the past. Hopefully matuloy at wala ng humarang o manira pa rito.

May nasagap nga ako that Aldrech Ramos refused to play sa PBA D-League and opted to play instead for the Philippine Patriots in the ABL. P30,000 lang kasi ang maximum pay sa D-League while sky's the limit naman sa ABL. They did offer Paul Lee the same maximum pay as the PBA if Paul would be willing to suit up for the Patriots in the ABL pero our sights were trained only in the PBA.

ironcoach
09-07-2011, 10:06 AM
akalain mo nga naman oh ang alam kong mga school teams na inaakyat sa amateur commercial leagues eh mga winning teams kagaya ng magnolia feu , excelroof san sebastian at maynilad san beda akalain mong mapapabilang pa dito yun UE? AMAAZIiiiiNG yan if that plan pushes through wag lang sana maging kagaya ng teletech yan ;D

tama mabilis ang karma sa basketball kaya hayaan mo na lang sa kanila yun coach :)



You know, i really don't mind na mabigyan naman ng chance ang iba and ang iba naman ang mabigyan ng breaks just like i did. Pero huwag naman sana sa pamamaraan na maninira pa ng kapwa para lang maka-usad ang pan-sariling kapakanan while at the same time idikdik sa lupa ang iba.

They took advantage of the Cobra boss's kababawan, pagka-kitid ng utak at pagka-gullible. Sana im hoping mangyari soon na magkaharap-harap kaming lahat para magkalabasan na ng katotohanan. They might be thinking that they can just trample with the truth, maybe dito sa lupa talagang nangyayari yan but then may batas din sa langit.

ironcoach
09-07-2011, 10:10 AM
Kelan na ba ito...?
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Ok ba kayo ng weekdays???
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okay ako coach.
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Tara! Tonight sa SIS at the Home Depot-Julia Vargas 8:30pm. Get joe scoundrel and bchoter. Kahit apat lang muna tayo para masimulan na. But if may sasama pa ok lang. Kindly confirm.

Joescoundrel
09-07-2011, 10:13 AM
^ Sang banda ng Home Depot ang SIS, coach? Is that the Dampa-style na may paluto...?

ironcoach
09-07-2011, 10:26 AM
^ Sang banda ng Home Depot ang SIS, coach? Is that the Dampa-style na may paluto...?


Yes. Papasok ka lang sa likod ng Starbucks. Medyo dulo na. I think 2nd or 3rd establishment to the last. Call ka na?? 8:30pm tonight???

red_engr1987
09-07-2011, 02:45 PM
^Coach ano ang tingin mo sa ASEAN Basketball League? Or a coaching stint abroad (like Coach Ariel Vanguardia)? Are you considering it now tanggal na kayo sa PBL D-League? Is it a viable place also for local players (especially the amateurs) to hone their skills before going to PBA (di pa kasi comparable ang ABL sa ligang ito sa sahod at kumpetisyon)? Naalala ko lang kasi si Junmar Fajardo of UC. Di nagpadraft. ABL daw muna.

Basketball is basketball is basketball whatever and wherever that might be. And for a basketball coach like me, if its a job and kung magkakasundo naman kami ng employer with regards to the terms and conditions...kahit pa NBA yan eh papatulan ko na rin. But im not totally out of a job in the PBA (hindi PBL) D-League. My friend/benefactor Mr. Bong Tan will put up another team for me to handle. I will carry BORACAY RUM naman this time and im hopinb to be able to generate a following for the brand, just like what i've done for Cobra in the past. Hopefully matuloy at wala ng humarang o manira pa rito.

May nasagap nga ako that Aldrech Ramos refused to play sa PBA D-League and opted to play instead for the Philippine Patriots in the ABL. P30,000 lang kasi ang maximum pay sa D-League while sky's the limit naman sa ABL. They did offer Paul Lee the same maximum pay as the PBA if Paul would be willing to suit up for the Patriots in the ABL pero our sights were trained only in the PBA.


@ ironcoach - goodluck to your new team BORACAY RUM, I hope and pray for your success in your Coaching stint with the PBA D-League.

ironcoach
09-07-2011, 05:41 PM
[quote=red_engr1987 ]

Salamat. At sana matuloy nga yung pagsali namin sa D-League ng matiwasay. Wala na sanang nilalang ng Diyos ang humadlang pa. Wala namang katotohanan talaga yung mga pinagsusu-sumbong nila dun sa boss ng Cobra. Pati yung mga ballboys at staff ko na kakapiranggot ang kinikita magiging mga collateral damage pa dahil lang mahilig sa Conspiracy Theory itong mga dating kaibigan ko. Siguro akala nila Martial Law parin hanggang ngayon.

ironcoach
09-07-2011, 06:01 PM
^ Sang banda ng Home Depot ang SIS, coach? Is that the Dampa-style na may paluto...?


Hey! Let me know kung tuloy tonite ha. Naka-boso lang ako sa Gameface till 8pm. Get a couple of the guys para medyo intimate kwentuhan lang. 4 or 5 of us shud be good.

BedanRoar
09-07-2011, 06:38 PM
Coach, nag kasama rin ba kayo ni Andy Jao? Matagal din siya sa Asia Brewery (Manila Beer Team Manager).

ironcoach
09-07-2011, 07:12 PM
Coach, nag kasama rin ba kayo ni Andy Jao? Matagal din siya sa Asia Brewery (Manila Beer Team Manager).


Pare naman. Walang ganyanan. Nung nasa Manila Beer si Andy Jao, nasa college pa ako nun. Aray ko!!!

duphaR007
09-07-2011, 07:12 PM
[quote=red_engr1987 ]

Salamat. At sana matuloy nga yung pagsali namin sa D-League ng matiwasay. Wala na sanang nilalang ng Diyos ang humadlang pa. Wala namang katotohanan talaga yung mga pinagsusu-sumbong nila dun sa boss ng Cobra. Pati yung mga ballboys at staff ko na kakapiranggot ang kinikita magiging mga collateral damage pa dahil lang mahilig sa Conspiracy Theory itong mga dating kaibigan ko. Siguro akala nila Martial Law parin hanggang ngayon.


sana coach sa mga susunod na inuman isama mo yung mga Boracay Rum models na girls. yaan mo na yung mga guys. ;D

Big Ticket
09-07-2011, 08:06 PM
May nasagap nga ako that Aldrech Ramos refused to play sa PBA D-League and opted to play instead for the Philippine Patriots in the ABL. P30,000 lang kasi ang maximum pay sa D-League while sky's the limit naman sa ABL. They did offer Paul Lee the same maximum pay as the PBA if Paul would be willing to suit up for the Patriots in the ABL pero our sights were trained only in the PBA.
[/quote]

sa patriots po ba si ramos or sa ABL team ng SMB?

ironcoach
09-07-2011, 08:42 PM
May nasagap nga ako that Aldrech Ramos refused to play sa PBA D-League and opted to play instead for the Philippine Patriots in the ABL. P30,000 lang kasi ang maximum pay sa D-League while sky's the limit naman sa ABL. They did offer Paul Lee the same maximum pay as the PBA if Paul would be willing to suit up for the Patriots in the ABL pero our sights were trained only in the PBA.


sa patriots po ba si ramos or sa ABL team ng SMB?
[/quote]

Sa Patriots daw eh. In fact, i heard they're doing their contract signing at The Gateway as we speak. They're also getting Al Vergara, Marcy Arellano, Patrick Cabahug among others.

ironcoach
09-07-2011, 08:45 PM
^ Sang banda ng Home Depot ang SIS, coach? Is that the Dampa-style na may paluto...?


8:40pm na and still no words from you guys. I guess its too short-notice for you. Ok lang. We can always reset. Name it and i'll be there.

animo
09-07-2011, 09:00 PM
diba sa smart gilas si Aldrech Ramos?

bchoter
09-07-2011, 09:13 PM
^ Sang banda ng Home Depot ang SIS, coach? Is that the Dampa-style na may paluto...?


8:40pm na and still no words from you guys. I guess its too short-notice for you. Ok lang. We can always reset. Name it and i'll be there.
sorry chief, trabaho: storbo sa toma

ironcoach
09-07-2011, 09:55 PM
8:40pm na and still no words from you guys. I guess its too short-notice for you. Ok lang. We can always reset. Name it and i'll be there.
[/quote]sorry chief, trabaho: storbo sa toma
[/quote]

Ok lang. Reset nalang.

BedanRoar
09-08-2011, 06:23 AM
Coach, nag kasama rin ba kayo ni Andy Jao? Matagal din siya sa Asia Brewery (Manila Beer Team Manager).


Pare naman. Walang ganyanan. Nung nasa Manila Beer si Andy Jao, nasa college pa ako nun. Aray ko!!!


;D ;D ;D

Kapag maluwag sked ko, sama ako sa inuman nyo. Medyo malayo na ako ngayon ;)

frans031
09-08-2011, 10:31 AM
Coach may balak po ba si Sir Bong na gamitin ang Tanduay Ice na brand name sa Dleague?

toti_mendiola
09-08-2011, 11:32 AM
Kelan na ba ito...?



Ok ba kayo ng weekdays???


okay ako coach.



Tara! Tonight sa SIS at the Home Depot-Julia Vargas 8:30pm. Get joe scoundrel and bchoter. Kahit apat lang muna tayo para masimulan na. But if may sasama pa ok lang. Kindly confirm.

coach paumanhin. ngayon ko lang nasilip. dami labada kahapon. kanina lang ako natapos. ;D

bchoter
09-08-2011, 07:14 PM
Kelan na ba ito...?



Ok ba kayo ng weekdays???


okay ako coach.



Tara! Tonight sa SIS at the Home Depot-Julia Vargas 8:30pm. Get joe scoundrel and bchoter. Kahit apat lang muna tayo para masimulan na. But if may sasama pa ok lang. Kindly confirm.

coach paumanhin. ngayon ko lang nasilip. dami labada kahapon. kanina lang ako natapos. ;D
Tama na ang pag online... mamamalantsa ka pa... nagtutupi na ako ;)

ironcoach
09-08-2011, 07:31 PM
Coach may balak po ba si Sir Bong na gamitin ang Tanduay Ice na brand name sa Dleague?


It had been boss Bong's stand for the longest time that we don't use Tanduay anymore in any amateur leagues. Tanduay had been a brand associated with the PBA eversince the birth of the PBA and parang made-demote lang yung brand if used anywhere outside of the PBA.

ironcoach
09-08-2011, 07:34 PM
coach paumanhin. ngayon ko lang nasilip. dami labada kahapon. kanina lang ako natapos. ;D


Ok lang guys. Tsaka nalang when everybody's good and ready. Nandito lang ako.

cobra bubbles
09-09-2011, 07:12 AM
coach, matanong ko lang, has anyone from dlsu approached you about coaching their MBT? di ba alumni ka?

naz-T
09-09-2011, 10:20 AM
coach, matanong ko lang, has anyone from dlsu approached you about coaching their MBT? di ba alumni ka?


ang saya neto kung maging totoo.. di ba si coach dindo rin ang pinalitan ni coach lawrence sa UE dati? :)

ironcoach
09-09-2011, 10:30 AM
coach, matanong ko lang, has anyone from dlsu approached you about coaching their MBT? di ba alumni ka?


None so far.

ironcoach
09-09-2011, 10:32 AM
coach, matanong ko lang, has anyone from dlsu approached you about coaching their MBT? di ba alumni ka?


Yes. I am a DLSU alumnus.

easter
09-09-2011, 01:05 PM
^Coach kung ikaw sir ang kunin ng DLSU (alumni ka naman and nakarating ka nasa UAAP finals so pwede) anong changes ang gagawin mo in terms of how the team should play given the present lineup?

ironcoach
09-09-2011, 03:42 PM
^Coach kung ikaw sir ang kunin ng DLSU (alumni ka naman and nakarating ka nasa UAAP finals so pwede) anong changes ang gagawin mo in terms of how the team should play given the present lineup?


Very intriguing talaga ang line-up ang Archers. Pero wow!! With Torres, Van Opstal, Gotladera, Paredes, Andrada & Mendoza, for sure never yan maa-agrabyado sa battle of the boards tsaka mga inside forays. What i think is lacking with them is yung perimeter defense. Marata, Dela Paz & Tampus are too offensive-minded kaya eventhough they will score some here & there, they also give up those points they've made on the other end...and more.

Over at UE during my time, i got guys like Raphy Reyes, Tagarda, Casajeros & even Paul Lee who stood as the vanguard of our perimeter defense. Kirk Long does the same thing for ADMU.

I believe DLSU should run more on offense given the fact that the big boys will dominate the glass, but if the opprtunity for transition attacks are not there, they'll have to pound it inside to the big guys for high percentage attempts or at least get the opposing big men into foul trouble.

If the big men don't get enough touches, guys like Slaughter, Aldrech Ramos, Abdul, Manyara, Mbe & Mbah will get to have longer playing time in the game, and foul-free during end game. If you get these guys into foul trouble early, chances are they will be spending a longer time riding the bench and will also be limited on defense at the end of games.

nash_bedista
09-09-2011, 04:56 PM
sir kung baga gagawin mo yung free-will or wheel, sino yung gagawin mong:

Paul lee?
Ken Acibar?
Raffy Reyes?
Pari Llagas?
James Martinez?

etc.. UE '10 finals lineup mo..

ironcoach
09-09-2011, 08:37 PM
sir kung baga gagawin mo yung free-will or wheel, sino yung gagawin mong:

Paul lee?
Ken Acibar?
Raffy Reyes?
Pari Llagas?
James Martinez?

etc.. UE '10 finals lineup mo..


We went to the finals in '09 ( last playing year nina Llagas, Espiritu, Acuna & Lingganay while Martinez sat out that year coz of injury). Acibar blossomed in 2010 while also being named to the UAAP Mythical 5, together with Paul Lee.

Dun sa question mo, did you want me to compare current DLSU players to the list of my former UE players??

And the word is FREE-WHEEL. Iba yung free will.

AnthonyServinio
09-23-2011, 12:38 AM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY
ironcoach

reforms
09-23-2011, 07:49 AM
Happy Bday Coach!

Question: Anong birthday wish mo? ;D

BedanRoar
09-23-2011, 07:59 AM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY
ironcoach


Kampai!!!

Joescoundrel
09-23-2011, 09:14 AM
Hindi ka nagpaparamdam Coach, birthday mo pala! 21 ka na pala Coach!

alchua
09-23-2011, 09:23 AM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY IRONCOACH!

nash_bedista
09-23-2011, 09:28 AM
sir kung baga gagawin mo yung free-will or wheel, sino yung gagawin mong:

Paul lee?
Ken Acibar?
Raffy Reyes?
Pari Llagas?
James Martinez?

etc.. UE '10 finals lineup mo..


We went to the finals in '09 ( last playing year nina Llagas, Espiritu, Acuna & Lingganay while Martinez sat out that year coz of injury). Acibar blossomed in 2010 while also being named to the UAAP Mythical 5, together with Paul Lee.

Dun sa question mo, did you want me to compare current DLSU players to the list of my former UE players??

And the word is FREE-WHEEL. Iba yung free will.




sorry coach wrong spelling :D

oo coach, kung baga sino ang gagawin mong ala-Paul Lee ng DLSU? ala-Elmer Espiritu ng DLSU .. etc..

Thanks Coach

toti_mendiola
09-23-2011, 12:03 PM
hapihapi coach!

ironcoach
09-23-2011, 05:04 PM
Sa mga bumati...ang aking taos-pusong pasasalamat. Mabuhay kayong lahat.

LION
09-23-2011, 05:05 PM
Mula sa mga Bedista sa kapwa Bedista, maligayang kaarawan Coach!

ironcoach
09-23-2011, 05:10 PM
Happy Bday Coach!

Question: Anong birthday wish mo? ;D


Personally, wala na akong mahihiling pa. Maybe non-stop good health tsaka happy lang parati. And yung pangka-lahatan...PEACE ON EARTH for everyone.

bchoter
09-23-2011, 08:38 PM
Happy bday coach
Mukhang may session sila pareng Joe, coach. Baka pwede kang humabol :D

ironcoach
09-24-2011, 10:35 AM
Happy bday coach
Mukhang may session sila pareng Joe, coach. Baka pwede kang humabol :D


We will set 1 good day for that. I've been busy lately. Fixing Paul Lee and Ken Acibar's PBA negotiations & contract details while at the same time fixing my team's participation and lately, the formation of my D-League team.

1 item in my strategy is to try and get Rome dela Rosa, Jake Pascual, Baser Amer, Kyle Pascual, Melo Lim and hopefully, Sudan Daniel into our fold. Kahit na up to end of February lang. But we'll see. Im aware that it won't be that easy to convince Frankie Lim and SBC officials.

reforms
09-24-2011, 11:08 AM
^Goodluck coach!

Kung mangyari mga plano mo, sigurado yung team nyo susuportahan ko sa D-League. :)

lekiboy
09-24-2011, 12:22 PM
1 item in my strategy is to try and get Rome dela Rosa, Jake Pascual, Baser Amer, Kyle Pascual, Melo Lim and hopefully, Sudan Daniel into our fold. Kahit na up to end of February lang. But we'll see. Im aware that it won't be that easy to convince Frankie Lim and SBC officials.


that woudl be good for the improvement of those lions...at pwede mo din sabihin kay coach na Bedista ka...baka di niya alam at ma"isnab" ka...hahaha :)

seriously, how close / linked are you with san beda officials/ admin / coaching staff? this will be vital to their decision.

animo
09-24-2011, 05:28 PM
Happy bday coach
Mukhang may session sila pareng Joe, coach. Baka pwede kang humabol :D


We will set 1 good day for that. I've been busy lately. Fixing Paul Lee and Ken Acibar's PBA negotiations & contract details while at the same time fixing my team's participation and lately, the formation of my D-League team.

1 item in my strategy is to try and get Rome dela Rosa, Jake Pascual, Baser Amer, Kyle Pascual, Melo Lim and hopefully, Sudan Daniel into our fold. Kahit na up to end of February lang. But we'll see. Im aware that it won't be that easy to convince Frankie Lim and SBC officials.


coach where is dave marcelo?

ironcoach
09-25-2011, 01:35 PM
[quote=ironcoach ]

that woudl be good for the improvement of those lions...at pwede mo din sabihin kay coach na Bedista ka...baka di niya alam at ma"isnab" ka...hahaha :)

seriously, how close / linked are you with san beda officials/ admin / coaching staff? this will be vital to their decision.


Im civil naman at best with Mike Advani, Frankie Lim, Ed Cordero and Ato Badolato but yung pagiging candid namin sa bawat isa, im aware eh walang kinalaman sa mga professional agendas namin. But at least yung tulay at mga middlemen nandyan. If it happens di ok and if not, sakop parin ng job description ko ang gumawa ng paraan or maghanap ng alternative.

ironcoach
09-25-2011, 01:41 PM
1 item in my strategy is to try and get Rome dela Rosa, Jake Pascual, Baser Amer, Kyle Pascual, Melo Lim and hopefully, Sudan Daniel into our fold. Kahit na up to end of February lang. But we'll see. Im aware that it won't be that easy to convince Frankie Lim and SBC officials.


coach where is dave marcelo?


Balita ko he's gonna play sa ABL. Players market uli ngayon sa Philippine basketball with the 2 Philippine teams sa ABL and yung 12 teams sa D-league. Dahil sa demand for players, even mga mediocre players sa mga colleges eh nkaka-demand ng malalaking sahod.

animo
09-25-2011, 08:45 PM
mas malaki ba ang salary ng players ng abl compare to those ni the d-league?

btw, how about the twins?

ironcoach
09-26-2011, 12:39 AM
mas malaki ba ang salary ng players ng abl compare to those ni the d-league?

btw, how about the twins?


Mas malaki di hamak sa ABL. The max salary sa D-League is 30k per month (although maugong ang mga bulung-bulungan na may mga players na tumatanggap ng 50k) while sa ABL umaabot ng 80-120k yung mga ex-pros and mga bigatin sa college.

About sa twins(Semerad ba tinutukoy mo?), i heard recovering palang from dengue yung mas magaling na twin kaya nanghi-hina pa.

maroonmartian
09-26-2011, 12:48 AM
mas malaki ba ang salary ng players ng abl compare to those ni the d-league?

btw, how about the twins?


FYI, maraming mga Pinoy coaches ang nasa ASEAN. Si Ariel Vanguardia (natanggal sa JRU) nasa Malaysia. Coach ng Brunei at Thailand (recent ABL champ) mga Pinoy. May mga Pinoy players sa ibang teams playing as imports. And most of them are PBA oldtimers? At sa konti naman ng lugar nila sa PBA, di hamak na dun na lang sila maglalaro. And don't be fooled, the competition is getting tougher there.

maroonmartian
09-26-2011, 12:52 AM
Question ironcoach:

What do you think of Coach Jerry Codinera on his first year with UE? Marami mawawala sa team niya next year pero magagaling naman mga ilang rookies nila, ano ang tingin ninyo mangyayari sa kanila next year?

danny
09-26-2011, 12:56 AM
Sa mga bumati...ang aking taos-pusong pasasalamat. Mabuhay kayong lahat.


Huli man at magaling, HAPPY BIRTHDAY PA DIN!

ISANG PULAHANG PAGBATI MULA SA MENDIOLA! ;D

ironcoach
09-26-2011, 01:38 AM
Question ironcoach:

What do you think of Coach Jerry Codinera on his first year with UE? Marami mawawala sa team niya next year pero magagaling naman mga ilang rookies nila, ano ang tingin ninyo mangyayari sa kanila next year?


No comment. ;)

ironcoach
09-26-2011, 01:39 AM
Sa mga bumati...ang aking taos-pusong pasasalamat. Mabuhay kayong lahat.


Huli man at magaling, HAPPY BIRTHDAY PA DIN!

ISANG PULAHANG PAGBATI MULA SA MENDIOLA! ;D



Maraming salamat sir.

ironcoach
09-26-2011, 01:44 AM
FYI, maraming mga Pinoy coaches ang nasa ASEAN. Si Ariel Vanguardia (natanggal sa JRU) nasa Malaysia. Coach ng Brunei at Thailand (recent ABL champ) mga Pinoy. May mga Pinoy players sa ibang teams playing as imports. And most of them are PBA oldtimers? At sa konti naman ng lugar nila sa PBA, di hamak na dun na lang sila maglalaro. And don't be fooled, the competition is getting tougher there.


Nobody is getting fooled. The ABL allows 2 imports of unlimited height per team. They got guys like Steven Thomas, Jason Dixon & Gabe Freeman strutting their wares over there so obviously the competition IS tough in the ABL. And you're right...it is work.

ironcoach
09-26-2011, 01:47 AM
Question ironcoach:

What do you think of Coach Jerry Codinera on his first year with UE? Marami mawawala sa team niya next year pero magagaling naman mga ilang rookies nila, ano ang tingin ninyo mangyayari sa kanila next year?


Sir, if i may ask you the same question as you were asking me, what would your answer be?

maroonmartian
09-26-2011, 08:00 AM
^ As a Maroon fan, DISAPPOINTED ako sa kanyang performance sa team namin. He is a big man coach and halos wala ako nakita development sa team namin. Or maybe mali ako na sisihin siya.

As a UE coach? Limited lang alam ko sa team. Di ko alam kung ang good sa amin (UP not finishing last is good for us already) is good for you. As a UP fan, masasabi ko parang gumaling siya from his stint with us. For a first year coach, maybe a passable grade for him.

I want to know what the guys from UE thinks.

ironcoach
09-26-2011, 09:20 AM
^ As a Maroon fan, DISAPPOINTED ako sa kanyang performance sa team namin. He is a big man coach and halos wala ako nakita development sa team namin. Or maybe mali ako na sisihin siya.

As a UE coach? Limited lang alam ko sa team. Di ko alam kung ang good sa amin (UP not finishing last is good for us already) is good for you. As a UP fan, masasabi ko parang gumaling siya from his stint with us. For a first year coach, maybe a passable grade for him.

I want to know what the guys from UE thinks.


Siguro nga mas mainam kung sila nalang nga ang tanungin niyo tungkol dyan. Wala naman kasing relevance sa akin ang bagay na yan para ako pa ang sumagot sa tanong na yan.

Bro, i didn't mean to be rude ha. Sadyang wala lang saysay talaga na para sa akin ang mga ganyang tanong. And beside, whatever you, me or anyone think or say, would it change anything? Would it matter at all??

Joescoundrel
09-26-2011, 09:56 AM
^ Makisawsaw na ko, Coach.

As a UE alum I expected more from a UE and Philippine basketball legend. At the very least he could have made better choices in the roster selection during the offseason. Up to now I still find it unbelievable that he lined up some of the guys he lined up instead of guys like Don Trollano, Ivan Hernandez and Sam Razon.

Seriously, are the likes of Von Chavez (pasintabi sa mga tropa natin na Bedans), Niko Montelibano and BJ Zosa really that much better compared to Trollano, Hernandez and Razon? As in saksakan ba talaga ng layo ang galing nung tatlong na-lineup versus sa mga nalaglag?

And what about Ken Acibar? Up to the first few summer games of UE he was still playing. Then suddenly he was gone, and planning to go to the PBA. What happened? Doesn't the UE community deserve an explanation?

oca
09-26-2011, 10:10 AM
Pareng Joe', Palagay ko dapat malinawan uli ang lahat who was responsible for letting go/ kicking out the talents that were supposed to be there for this season. I doubt if the current coach masterminded that. Sa dami nang tinadyakan, the UE legend will have to make do with who were available.

Dami talagang hilaw at di dapat sa line-up na ito, pero sa daming bakanteng spots sino-sino ba ang available?

animo
09-26-2011, 10:20 AM
coach, aside from d-league.. do you have plans of coaching collegiate team again? like dlsu?

ironcoach
09-26-2011, 06:12 PM
coach, aside from d-league.. do you have plans of coaching collegiate team again? like dlsu?


I would be challenged to handle DLSU pero pakiramdam/pinangangabahan ko rin that if i find the UE Community a thankless bunch of people to please, baka sa DLSU balatan ako ng buong-buo if i fail to deliver.

Pero deep within my iron suit, tingin ko kaya ko yan. Malupit pa mandin ang bitbit kong bangis after 2 bittersweet years as a UAAP coach. Laban din ako na sakaling hindi makapasok ng final 4 kahit minsan lang...resign agad.

ironcoach
09-26-2011, 06:16 PM
Pareng Joe', Palagay ko dapat malinawan uli ang lahat who was responsible for letting go/ kicking out the talents that were supposed to be there for this season. I doubt if the current coach masterminded that. Sa dami nang tinadyakan, the UE legend will have to make do with who were available.

Dami talagang hilaw at di dapat sa line-up na ito, pero sa daming bakanteng spots sino-sino ba ang available?


Makiki-sawsaw lang din ako. Eh bakit si Roi Sumang hindi tinanggal? Recruit ko rin naman yan since 2009 pa.

bydpogi
09-26-2011, 06:23 PM
Coach, maiba naman po ako, Suppose you are going to handle the Mapua Cardinals, anong diskarte gagawin mo? Ang daming talent sa team tsaka ang lalim ng line up pero sa tingin ko hindi ma-maximize ng current coaching staff. Thanks po sa pagsagot

ironcoach
09-26-2011, 06:40 PM
Coach, maiba naman po ako, Suppose you are going to handle the Mapua Cardinals, anong diskarte gagawin mo? Ang daming talent sa team tsaka ang lalim ng line up pero sa tingin ko hindi ma-maximize ng current coaching staff. Thanks po sa pagsagot


Pasensya na coz i haven't been able to follow the games of Mapua. But since Mangahas & Sarangay had been my players sa PBL & some of the other Cardinals eh nakalaban ko narin in the past, i should that they're quite formidable although siyempre if you're in the same league with the likes of Beda and Baste, seems like its just a battle for 3rd place nalang ang the rest of the field.

maroonmartian
09-26-2011, 08:36 PM
^ Sorry po for asking the wrong question. Anyway, babati na lang ako ng isang belated Happy Birthday at advance Merry Christmas. Good luck sa mga susunod na plano. God will find ways for us to succeed.

Sige maiba na rin ako. Dun sa tatlong team na naglalabanan sa #4 spot (tingin ko kasi lock na yung tatlo), sino sa CSB, Mapua, JRU o Lyceum ang makakapasok? Bakit yung favorite gaya ng Mapua ay minamalas?

ironcoach
09-27-2011, 12:59 AM
^ Sorry po for asking the wrong question. Anyway, babati na lang ako ng isang belated Happy Birthday at advance Merry Christmas. Good luck sa mga susunod na plano. God will find ways for us to succeed.

Sige maiba na rin ako. Dun sa tatlong team na naglalabanan sa #4 spot (tingin ko kasi lock na yung tatlo), sino sa CSB, Mapua, JRU o Lyceum ang makakapasok? Bakit yung favorite gaya ng Mapua ay minamalas?


Ay naku!! Alam mo bro, dito sa Philippine basketball landscape natin...walang tamang mali dyan. Pwedeng bida ka today, bukas naman kontrabida ka naman. Yung tungkol sa question mo, wala namang mali dun eh. Depende na nga lang sa kung sino ang sasagot at kung ano ang isasagot.

And advance Merry Christmas din sayo. U know, everytime i feel down, i'll just think of Christmas and everything about will suddenly turn chipper.

Dun naman sa naglalaban for the 4th spot in the NCAA, sa tingin ko toss-up yan between JRU & MIT although my bucket of beer budget would go with the Cardinals.

genom222
10-02-2011, 07:42 PM
gwapo natin sa TV coach ah! ganda rin ng laro ni Paul Lee so far... katabi mo ata si Coach Toroman, magiging part na kayo ng Gilas???

Hooplover
10-02-2011, 07:48 PM
Coach,sa PBA game between Ginebra at ROS,na flash sa TV, katabi mo si Rajko Toroman.May mga naitanong ka ba sa kanya or may mga napagusapan kayo?Like, ano masasabi nya about Paul Lee and what could have been kung nakasama siya sa Smart Gilas?

ironcoach
10-03-2011, 12:52 AM
Coach,sa PBA game between Ginebra at ROS,na flash sa TV, katabi mo si Rajko Toroman.May mga naitanong ka ba sa kanya or may mga napagusapan kayo?Like, ano masasabi nya about Paul Lee and what could have been kung nakasama siya sa Smart Gilas?

Nagpalitan lang kami ng kuro-kuro ni coach Rajko. Sinisisi niya ako ng pabiro sa hindi ko raw pagpayag kay Paul Lee na maglaro for Gilas. At nung binubuo daw niya yung Gilas, si Paul daw ang kauna-unahang choice niyang player para dito. Kako kasi binarat kami nung recruiter nila kung iku-kumpara sa mga inalok nila kina chris tiu, barroca at baracael.

At sinabi ko rin sa kanya na nung nilapitan ko yung ibang mga namamahala sa Gilas nung umayaw na si Paul sa UE last January about the possibility na ma-include sa Gilas roster, hindi na kami pinakitaan ng interest.

Pero coach Rajko is a cool dude. Nagpalitan kami ng mga observations regarding sa state of Philippine basketball at hiningi rin niya yung input ko sa mga posibleng maging future Gilas prospects.

ironcoach
10-03-2011, 01:03 AM
Coach,sa PBA game between Ginebra at ROS,na flash sa TV, katabi mo si Rajko Toroman.May mga naitanong ka ba sa kanya or may mga napagusapan kayo?Like, ano masasabi nya about Paul Lee and what could have been kung nakasama siya sa Smart Gilas?


Pauwi si coach Rajko sa Serbia on Tuesday at sa November 15 daw ang balik niya. He wanted to talk to me again daw pagbalik niya. He also asked me twice kung bakit daw wala na ako sa UAAP team na dating hinawakan ko pero hindi ko alam kung ano isasagot ko kaya iniiba ko nalang yung topic. Shinare din sa akin nina coach Rajko at ni charles tiu (younger bro ni chris tiu) yung opinion ni coach norman black tungkol sa pagco-coach ko sa uaap, at nakaka-taba naman ng puso marinig.

easter
10-03-2011, 08:21 AM
^ Ayos ah! So may posibilidad ba coach na sa Smart Gilas 2.0 ang next destination mo?

genom222
10-03-2011, 04:45 PM
Coach,sa PBA game between Ginebra at ROS,na flash sa TV, katabi mo si Rajko Toroman.May mga naitanong ka ba sa kanya or may mga napagusapan kayo?Like, ano masasabi nya about Paul Lee and what could have been kung nakasama siya sa Smart Gilas?


Pauwi si coach Rajko sa Serbia on Tuesday at sa November 15 daw ang balik niya. He wanted to talk to me again daw pagbalik niya. He also asked me twice kung bakit daw wala na ako sa UAAP team na dating hinawakan ko pero hindi ko alam kung ano isasagot ko kaya iniiba ko nalang yung topic. Shinare din sa akin nina coach Rajko at ni charles tiu (younger bro ni chris tiu) yung opinion ni coach norman black tungkol sa pagco-coach ko sa uaap, at nakaka-taba naman ng puso marinig.


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ironcoach
10-03-2011, 07:46 PM
Pauwi si coach Rajko sa Serbia on Tuesday at sa November 15 daw ang balik niya. He wanted to talk to me again daw pagbalik niya. He also asked me twice kung bakit daw wala na ako sa UAAP team na dating hinawakan ko pero hindi ko alam kung ano isasagot ko kaya iniiba ko nalang yung topic. Shinare din sa akin nina coach Rajko at ni charles tiu (younger bro ni chris tiu) yung opinion ni coach norman black tungkol sa pagco-coach ko sa uaap, at nakaka-taba naman ng puso marinig.


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Secret! Hehe! Pero really. Huwag nalang. Its all water under the bridge na naman as far as im concerned.

ironcoach
10-03-2011, 07:50 PM
^ Ayos ah! So may posibilidad ba coach na sa Smart Gilas 2.0 ang next destination mo?


Walang napag-usapang ganyan. But the possibilities are there. We'll see.

Nakakataba rin ng puso yung hinihingan ako ni coach rajko ng mga inputs or opinions.

gameFaceAdmin
10-03-2011, 08:50 PM
Coach, ako naman.

If you will be given the license to choose any player from the amateur ranks or from the PBA, who do you think should compose our Men's National Team for the next FIBA Asia tournament?

Also, pahabol lang: if you were Norman Black, who do you think should compose our National Team for the SEA Games assuming that you will choose only amateur players?

ironcoach
10-03-2011, 09:46 PM
Coach, ako naman.

If you will be given the license to choose any player from the amateur ranks or from the PBA, who do you think should compose our Men's National Team for the next FIBA Asia tournament?

Also, pahabol lang: if you were Norman Black, who do you think should compose our National Team for the SEA Games assuming that you will choose only amateur players?


Hirap yan ah. Maraming qualified naman but if i were to choose my top 12 for the 2013 FIBA-ASIA, right out the top of my head lang ha: Norwood, Thoss, Douthit, Lassiter, Caguioa, Ranidel, Arwind, Cabagnot, Yap, Pingris, J-Wash (if healthy) and Paul Lee.

For the SEA Games: Slaughter, Fajardo, Parks, Ravena, Sangalang, Pascual (SSC), Abueva, Salva, RR, Nuyles, Lester Alvarez, Lanete.

animo
10-04-2011, 12:48 PM
gwapo natin sa TV coach ah! ganda rin ng laro ni Paul Lee so far... katabi mo ata si Coach Toroman, magiging part na kayo ng Gilas???


coach, ganda na ng buhok mo huh. ;D rebond?? hehehe ;D

ironcoach
10-04-2011, 01:13 PM
gwapo natin sa TV coach ah! ganda rin ng laro ni Paul Lee so far... katabi mo ata si Coach Toroman, magiging part na kayo ng Gilas???


coach, ganda na ng buhok mo huh. ;D rebond?? hehehe ;D


As i've said so many times in the past, never ako nagpa-rebond in my life. Yung Oriental-breed ko siguro yon kaya naturally- straight and shiny ang hair ko. Just like Atoy Co. ;) Nung grade school palang nga ako ang pintas sa akin "bunot".

maroonmartian
10-05-2011, 05:50 AM
^ Coach wag mo lang sobrahan ang pagpaparebond kasi minsan lang napapagkamalan ka naming si Joel Cruz pag nakaside view. ;D Good to hear about your recent success in the PBA. Paul Lee could be a force in the PBA in my opinion.

bchoter
10-05-2011, 07:04 AM
Never nga daw. Never.

ironcoach
10-05-2011, 07:35 AM
^ Coach wag mo lang sobrahan ang pagpaparebond kasi minsan lang napapagkamalan ka naming si Joel Cruz pag nakaside view. ;D Good to hear about your recent success in the PBA. Paul Lee could be a force in the PBA in my opinion.


As i said, my hair has never ever been rebonded. And also, im pretty sure Mr. Joel Cruz takes his grooming & being vane very seriously...just like me. The hair, the clothes, the shoes, the accessories...the total package. Naka-hiligan na at napag-gastusan na. Basta anything man-made. Yung mga God-given nasa pagdadala nalang yan or sa nakasanayan nalang yan. Live and let live.

ironcoach
10-05-2011, 07:43 AM
^ Good to hear about your recent success in the PBA. Paul Lee could be a force in the PBA in my opinion.


Good to "HEAR"??? You mean you weren't able to watch the game? How can you forgive yourself for that?? Performances like this by a rookie on his very 1st game doesn't happen all the time. You can catch it nalang on youtube.

If Ginebra's defense couldn't stop him, i wonder if there's any team in the UAAP this year who could. Hmm.

bydpogi
10-05-2011, 03:32 PM
Coach pwede po ba ang monicker na to?

Paul "LEETHAL WEAPON" Lee ;)

maroonmartian
10-05-2011, 10:40 PM
^ Good to hear about your recent success in the PBA. Paul Lee could be a force in the PBA in my opinion.


Good to "HEAR"??? You mean you weren't able to watch the game? How can you forgive yourself for that?? Performances like this by a rookie on his very 1st game doesn't happen all the time. You can catch it nalang on youtube.



I was glued to the Azkals game last Sunday but having watched Paul Lee in the UAAP through the years (both live and on television), I know he has the skills to compete with the big boys. I think it is an affliction of our generation to have a short attention span.

Di bale kung may time talaga at walang kaagaw sa TV, I will watch him. Again, goodluck po sa inyo at sa mga bata ninyo. ;)

P.S. "LEEthal Weapon" is a good monicker.

ironcoach
10-06-2011, 12:13 AM
Coach pwede po ba ang monicker na to?

Paul "LEETHAL WEAPON" Lee ;)




Ok narin siguro yan. He was known as the "COBRA COMMANDER" back in the PBL and in the D-League but it seemed like hesitant or cautious ang mga commentators na tawagin siyang ganon coz perhaps Cobra stands for Cobra Energy Drink na direct competitor ng PBA Team na Barako Bull Energy. Pwede namang yung Cobra eh yung ahas at hindi yung energy drink diba? :D

Well, whats in a name? We'll leave it up to them nalang.

john_paul_manahan
10-06-2011, 04:55 AM
Actually, the Cobra Commander monicker fits Paul Lee, coach.

There have been threads about comparing teams from different eras and how one team can fare against the other.

Meron yung 2002 Ateneo vs 2008 Ateneo vs 2011 Ateneo.

Meron na rin yung 1993-1996 UST vis-a-vis 1998-2001 La Salle vs 2008-2011 Ateneo. Sige, isama na rin ang golden era ng San Sebastian at the recent era ng San Beda,

Sino ang magwawagi sa isang death match na ito?

ironcoach
10-06-2011, 08:53 AM
Actually, the Cobra Commander monicker fits Paul Lee, coach.

There have been threads about comparing teams from different eras and how one team can fare against the other.

Meron yung 2002 Ateneo vs 2008 Ateneo vs 2011 Ateneo.

Meron na rin yung 1993-1996 UST vis-a-vis 1998-2001 La Salle vs 2008-2011 Ateneo. Sige, isama na rin ang golden era ng San Sebastian at the recent era ng San Beda,

Sino ang magwawagi sa isang death match na ito?


For me yung 93-96 UST teams. Most of the players here even had stellar careers in tbe pros.

Joescoundrel
10-06-2011, 01:42 PM
Coach, nag-cover ako sa debut game ni Paul Lee, I always thought he deserved to be the Number 1 overall pick in this rookie draft batch, there is no denying his God-given talent.

If Paul could score 30 against PBL competition, and 20 versus Ginebra, I assume he could have led the UAAP in scoring, lalo na nung 2010 when Elmer and Pari were no longer with the team.

So how come he never averaged more than 14 or 15 points per game in the UAAP...? Sa tancha ko kasi with his talent he could have easily averaged 20-plus points per game most especially in his last season in the UAAP.

ironcoach
10-07-2011, 12:36 AM
Coach, nag-cover ako sa debut game ni Paul Lee, I always thought he deserved to be the Number 1 overall pick in this rookie draft batch, there is no denying his God-given talent.

If Paul could score 30 against PBL competition, and 20 versus Ginebra, I assume he could have led the UAAP in scoring, lalo na nung 2010 when Elmer and Pari were no longer with the team.

So how come he never averaged more than 14 or 15 points per game in the UAAP...? Sa tancha ko kasi with his talent he could have easily averaged 20-plus points per game most especially in his last season in the UAAP.


Coz he had to do so much more than just scoring in the UAAP last season, aside from the fact that he was playing with a fracture on the metatarsal bone on his right foot. He was just getting by with pain-killers so he wouldn't miss any games. And also with the teamates that he had, im pretty sure the opposing coaches' instruction to their players was to double or triple him everytime he makes his moves and just gamble on his teamates taking the shots instead of him.

ironcoach
10-07-2011, 12:43 AM
[quote=Joescoundrel ]
Coach, nag-cover ako sa debut game ni Paul Lee, I always thought he deserved to be the Number 1 overall pick in this rookie draft batch, there is no denying his God-given talent.


Coz he had to do so much more than just scoring in the UAAP last season, aside from the fact that he was playing with a fracture on the metatarsal bone on his right foot. He was just getting by with pain-killers so he wouldn't miss any games. And also with the teamates that he had, im pretty sure the opposing coaches' instruction to their players was to double or triple him everytime he makes his moves and just gamble on his teamates taking the shots instead of him.


And don't forget that in the UAAP's criteria of basing a player's par value purely on statistics, Paul Lee was voted into the Mythical 5 selection in 2 straight years, even in the year that we didn't make it to Final 4.

easter
10-07-2011, 07:13 AM
Coach, nag-cover ako sa debut game ni Paul Lee, I always thought he deserved to be the Number 1 overall pick in this rookie draft batch, there is no denying his God-given talent.

If Paul could score 30 against PBL competition, and 20 versus Ginebra, I assume he could have led the UAAP in scoring, lalo na nung 2010 when Elmer and Pari were no longer with the team.

So how come he never averaged more than 14 or 15 points per game in the UAAP...? Sa tancha ko kasi with his talent he could have easily averaged 20-plus points per game most especially in his last season in the UAAP.


Coz he had to do so much more than just scoring in the UAAP last season, aside from the fact that he was playing with a fracture on the metatarsal bone on his right foot. He was just getting by with pain-killers so he wouldn't miss any games. And also with the teamates that he had, im pretty sure the opposing coaches' instruction to their players was to double or triple him everytime he makes his moves and just gamble on his teamates taking the shots instead of him.

So coach ito pala ang isang reason why some players are better in the pros than in the amateurs kasi the defense is not concentrated on them alone.

Pero coach paano naman dun sa mga hindi scorers like for example Alvin Teng. Noong panahon ni Alvin Teng di namn siya ganun kagaling sa amateurs as compared to when he entered the PBA. I don't think they look for him to score din in the amateurs he was a role on both levels but the difference in performance is quite big.

ironcoach
10-07-2011, 08:35 AM
[quote=Joescoundrel ]
Coach, nag-cover ako sa debut game ni Paul Lee, I always thought he deserved to be the Number 1 overall pick in this rookie draft batch, there is no denying his God-given talent.


So coach ito pala ang isang reason why some players are better in the pros than in the amateurs kasi the defense is not concentrated on them alone.

Pero coach paano naman dun sa mga hindi scorers like for example Alvin Teng. Noong panahon ni Alvin Teng di namn siya ganun kagaling sa amateurs as compared to when he entered the PBA. I don't think they look for him to score din in the amateurs he was a role on both levels but the difference in performance is quite big.


Players naman can mature and hone their skills further as they grow older. Yung key factor dyan eh yung kung mabibigyan ba ng break ang players or ng opportunity mag-grow pa ang basketball I.Q. or ang skills nila to get better or maka-contribute sa mga teams nila.

How many 1st round draft picks or former college stars na ba ang either hindi tumagal ( injuries are also a huge factor) or hindi man lang pinalad makatuntong ng PBA?? Boyet Bautista, Ken Bono, Mark Andaya, Christian Luanzon, Cholo Villanueva, Macky Escalona, Christian Coronel, Junjun Cabatu, Pari Llagas, Marcy Arellano, Patrick Cabahug, Edwin Asoro, etc.

Destiny really plays a huge part in a player's career path. Look at Dennis Rodman. He was able to make a career out of grabbing rebounds, playing hard-nosed defense, going under the skin of his defensive assignment without needing to score so much.
His antics and oftentimes unusual behavior have even brought him all the way to the Hall of Fame.

ironcoach
10-07-2011, 09:06 AM
Coach, nag-cover ako sa debut game ni Paul Lee, I always thought he deserved to be the Number 1 overall pick in this rookie draft batch, there is no denying his God-given talent.



Having God-given talents alone are not enough to make a player succeed. Maraming magagaling na mga players narin tayong na-witnessed in the past na nasayang lang ang mga God-given talents coz of so many different factors. Injuries, breaks, attitude problems, vices, falling prey to temptations, hanging with the wrong crowd, etc.

As far as Lee naman is concerned, its the combination of confidence level and basketball I.Q., aside from his talent ang mga pangunahing bentahe niya. But he's still got a long way to go. Ang parati kong niri-remind sa kanya eh yung don't forget to enjoy every moment of what he's going thru right now. Take it 1 step at a time lang.

As for being deserving to be the #1 overall pick, to be real honest, i really wished for Paul to go to Rain or Shine. Mahirap na mapunta sa team na hindi alam ang kanilang ginagawa or hindi strictly basketball ang nasa kanilang agenda. Rain or Shine is nether San Miguel nor PLDT either pero feel ko mas homey, easy & light ang samahan sa RoS. I also believe that coach Yeng is perfect, aside from myself :D, for Paul. Sana nga RoS signs him to a 15-year contract extension para siya na ang maging mukha ng Elasto Painters for his entire career.

reforms
10-07-2011, 09:07 AM
^I agree coach.

"Regular" UAAP/NCAA players who are outshining their contemporaries, now showing their stuff in the pba:

Willy Wilson
Beau Belga
Norman Gonzales
Ricky Calimag
Rudy Lingganay


To name a few.

Now coach, question, sino sa mga binanggit mo o di mo pa nababanggit na players ang pinaka-nanghihinayang ka na di nakalaro o di nagtagal sa PBA, at bakit?

ironcoach
10-07-2011, 03:39 PM
^I agree coach.

Now coach, question, sino sa mga binanggit mo o di mo pa nababanggit na players ang pinaka-nanghihinayang ka na di nakalaro o di nagtagal sa PBA, at bakit?



The 1 name that would come to my mind for the next several years is Pari Llagas. 4 out of my starters in the UAAP 2009 team are now strutting their wares in the PBA (espiritu, lingganay, lee & acuna). Even Martinez & Acibar were able to sign professional contracts already. To think that Llagas was PBA rookie draft 1st rounder last year.

I've been telling those who'd care to listen that Llagas would've been a sure top 5 pick in the PBA last year if only we were able to bag the UAAP Season 72 championship. But since we didn't and Ateneo did, the eventual top 2 picks became Al-Hussaini & Baclao pa. And even though Elmer ended up the 4th pick & also hardly saw playing time, he was able to secure himself somehow by being able to sign a rookie max contract.

Whatever befell Pari?? Why are the basketball gods doing this to him?? What did he do to deserve this?? Well, Pari's only 26 & there's still time for things to turn out for the better for him. And for being my player both in the UAAP and in the PBL...im wishing him all the best for his career.

maverick99
10-09-2011, 11:01 PM
coach ,sure ROY na c paul.

ironcoach
10-10-2011, 12:01 AM
coach ,sure ROY na c paul.


Way too early to tell pa. Although thank you for believing. Lets all keep supporting Paul lang. Maraming salamat uli on behalf of Paul.

Joescoundrel
10-10-2011, 07:20 AM
Coach, about Pari Llagas, I think the real problem is his own inherent limtiations, particularly his "alangan" size. I'm not absolutely sure but I think PAri is probably 6'3" in his sneakers, maybe 220 pounds, max, and he played 4/5 throughout his stay in UE and the PBL. He never really showed much in terms of natural foot speed or spring, unlike Elmer Espiritu who can jump out of the gym and had freakish extension reaching out for long boards and blocking shots that looked too far away to reach. Over the last 10-12 years the PBA has become more and more an athlete's league, which is why I feel even talented players who are not particularly athletic have less chances of sticking in the league. Look at your guys who've hung around - Elmer, Val Acuna, Rudy Linganay. All of your other guys were athletic enough at their particular size/position to succeed. Pari on the other hand is easily three to four inches shorter and at least 10-15 pounds lighter than the typical monsters he has to match up against at the 4 and 5 spots in the PBA. Some scouts and reporters said he could be like Reynel Hugnatan or Leo Najorda, who are roughly the same size and built. But what those guys failed to realize is that Pari is not as quick, not as good a jumper and not as good a shooter as Hugnatan and Najorda. Pari would have to be in a perfect situation - perfect team, perfect coach, perfect system - to stick in the PBA.

easter
10-10-2011, 07:57 AM
Coach napanood ko si Paul Lee again yesterday and I felt this was a more impressive game than the one he had against Ginebra kasi in just his 2nd game he had to battle adversity by playing through foul trouble. Had a good start, came into foul trouble and had some errors but in the end contributed when the pressure was on.

Coach what do you think of Japeth Aguilar? Some say he was underutilized and out of position at Smart Gilas. That his good performance (although it was just one game) at the TNT game shows he is indeed a 3. In your opinion coach ano ba talaga ang tamang position kay Aguilar? And if you had him during your years with UE how are you going to use him and are you going to give lots of minutes knowing that you had the likes of Espiritu and Llagas?

maroonmartian
10-10-2011, 12:38 PM
Coach napanood ko si Paul Lee again yesterday and I felt this was a more impressive game than the one he had against Ginebra kasi in just his 2nd game he had to battle adversity by playing through foul trouble. Had a good start, came into foul trouble and had some errors but in the end contributed when the pressure was on.

Coach what do you think of Japeth Aguilar? Some say he was underutilized and out of position at Smart Gilas. That his good performance (although it was just one game) at the TNT game shows he is indeed a 3. In your opinion coach ano ba talaga ang tamang position kay Aguilar? And if you had him during your years with UE how are you going to use him and are you going to give lots of minutes knowing that you had the likes of Espiritu and Llagas?

Napanood ko na rin last Sunday at masasabi ko lang,INSTANT IMPACT. Sa kasamaang palad tulad ng dati ng dati naagaawan ng remote. ;D Nung naibalik ko na patapos na laro at siya player of the game.

Dagdag ko lang sa tanong ni EASTER. Tingin ko kasi kaya maging POINT GUARD ni Paul Lee dahil sa kanyang dribbling at good passing. Tingin ko rin ganyan iniisip ni Coach Yeng.

Ang tanong ko ay: MAY PAGKAKAIBA BA NGAYON SA COACHING kung sa pag-aasign sa role ng player ang pag-uusapan? May mga coach pa rin pa na ang tingin sa 6-6 na sentro ay sentro na di kailangan matuto mag-dribble at tumira sa labas?

ironcoach
10-10-2011, 02:47 PM
Coach, about Pari Llagas, I think the real problem is his own inherent limtiations, particularly his "alangan" size. I'm not absolutely sure but I think PAri is probably 6'3" in his sneakers, maybe 220 pounds, max, and he played 4/5 throughout his stay in UE and the PBL. He never really showed much in terms of natural foot speed or spring, unlike Elmer Espiritu who can jump out of the gym and had freakish extension reaching out for long boards and blocking shots that looked too far away to reach. Over the last 10-12 years the PBA has become more and more an athlete's league, which is why I feel even talented players who are not particularly athletic have less chances of sticking in the league. Look at your guys who've hung around - Elmer, Val Acuna, Rudy Linganay. All of your other guys were athletic enough at their particular size/position to succeed. Pari on the other hand is easily three to four inches shorter and at least 10-15 pounds lighter than the typical monsters he has to match up against at the 4 and 5 spots in the PBA. Some scouts and reporters said he could be like Reynel Hugnatan or Leo Najorda, who are roughly the same size and built. But what those guys failed to realize is that Pari is not as quick, not as good a jumper and not as good a shooter as Hugnatan and Najorda. Pari would have to be in a perfect situation - perfect team, perfect coach, perfect system - to stick in the PBA.


There. You've answered ur own querie towards the end of ur long analysis. So its still not entirely impossible for him to play in the PBA after all. Pareng Joe, inumpisahan mo sa malabo ang tsansa niya then you eventually settled down to may pag-asa naman pala. Basta tamang team, tamang coach at tamang pagkakataon. Dagdagan narin natin ng kung nasa "tadhana ba niya".

B-Meg did, after all, draft him with the 9th overall pick in last year's PBA Rookie Draft, didn't they? The likes of Jimmy Alapag, in the past, went at #10, Hugnatan at #9, Fonacier at #14, Tubid at #16, Labagala at #12, heck! we've even seen a lot of undrafted players moved up to the pros.

Honestly, irrelevant yang kung athletic ka ba, shooter ka ba, tamang height or tamang timbang. Thats bullcrap!! Maging anak ka nga lang ng coach pwede na in some occasions diba?? Hindi rin nga narin sapat nowadays yung maka-tuntong LANG ng PBA. Dapat kumita, maka-ipon, makatagal man lang ng at least 8-10 years in the PBA to be able to call it a career. Para man lang at least masabi mo na hindi nasayang ang lahat ng hirap, sakripisyo, dasal at panalangin...at oras mo.

ironcoach
10-10-2011, 02:58 PM
Coach napanood ko si Paul Lee again yesterday and I felt this was a more impressive game than the one he had against Ginebra kasi in just his 2nd game he had to battle adversity by playing through foul trouble. Had a good start, came into foul trouble and had some errors but in the end contributed when the pressure was on.

Coach what do you think of Japeth Aguilar? Some say he was underutilized and out of position at Smart Gilas. That his good performance (although it was just one game) at the TNT game shows he is indeed a 3. In your opinion coach ano ba talaga ang tamang position kay Aguilar? And if you had him during your years with UE how are you going to use him and are you going to give lots of minutes knowing that you had the likes of Espiritu and Llagas?


Kung sa UAAP lang no doubt i would've played Japeth 40 minutes a game. At Gilas, im sure after almost 3 years handling the team, coach Toroman should know best why he opted to under-utilized Japeth. Hindi ko na-kapa o na-size up yung Gilas team & Japeth for that matter to really make an honest to goodness evaluation of that team and that particular player.

As for Paul Lee, hopefully he gets better and better game after game. Sana he just continues to enjoy what he's doing and what he is right now. Fame and fortune can be fleeting more often than not kaya dapat grounded lang siya at injury-free parati. I'll always be there beside him naman to give advices...and ready lang to catch him if ever he falls.

ironcoach
10-10-2011, 03:11 PM
[quote=easter ]

Napanood ko na rin last Sunday at masasabi ko lang,INSTANT IMPACT. Sa kasamaang palad tulad ng dati ng dati naagaawan ng remote. ;D Nung naibalik ko na patapos na laro at siya player of the game.

Dagdag ko lang sa tanong ni EASTER. Tingin ko kasi kaya maging POINT GUARD ni Paul Lee dahil sa kanyang dribbling at good passing. Tingin ko rin ganyan iniisip ni Coach Yeng.

Ang tanong ko ay: MAY PAGKAKAIBA BA NGAYON SA COACHING kung sa pag-aasign sa role ng player ang pag-uusapan? May mga coach pa rin pa na ang tingin sa 6-6 na sentro ay sentro na di kailangan matuto mag-dribble at tumira sa labas?


If you'll recall my time in the UAAP, i'd prefer Paul to take care of the playmaking chores eventhough he has James Martinez, who's a few inches shorter, playing alongside him. Its because i know for a fact that Paul's the better dribbler and playmaker while James is definitely the deadlier shooter kaya spot-up nalang siya anywhere in the court and ready to shoot. And also during my time in the UAAP, and also in the PBL, it wouldn't be surprising to catch either Elmer Espiritu or Pari Llagas taking 3-pointers.

I will never stop or prevent a player's potential to diversify or add-on to his arsenal as long as i see or notice naman the potential in practice or in actual situations. If Magic Johnson, who's my all-time idol can play point guard at 6'9, why would i prevent a 6'5 or 6'6 Pinoy to go coast to coast...basta ba kaya niya eh.

ironcoach
10-10-2011, 09:53 PM
Hey guys. Maybe you can help me out. It doesn't seem right na nandito parin sa thread na ito ako ninyo nakaka-chat. Parang overstaying alien na ang dating ko nito. How can i fix this?? This thread was created for their activities and info-sharing and not for me. Maybe dun nalang sa PBA D-League thread. At least dun talagang may involvement ako unlike here.

How do we remedy this, fellas? Pls help. Thanks.

salsa caballero
10-10-2011, 10:22 PM
Coach - am a veteran poster here. I think bagay ka naman dito. Nasa PeX ka pa lang, the more serious basketball observers wanted you to post here. So, sa ganang akin lang, there's nothing to remedy. Your frank answers and candor are certainly much appreciated. Cheers!

duphaR007
10-10-2011, 11:22 PM
^^ i think ibig niyang sabihin sir kung tama pa bang nasa UE turf pa yung thread about him.

pwede rin sa d league section. or sa uaap ;D

ironcoach
10-10-2011, 11:24 PM
Coach - am a veteran poster here. I think bagay ka naman dito. Nasa PeX ka pa lang, the more serious basketball observers wanted you to post here. So, sa ganang akin lang, there's nothing to remedy. Your frank answers and candor are certainly much appreciated. Cheers!



Awkward na kasi talaga. The title of this thread clearly reads RW's Camp and im no longer with them anymore. And i don't think its right for me to be hanging around here much longer.

ironcoach
10-10-2011, 11:30 PM
^^ i think ibig niyang sabihin sir kung tama pa bang nasa UE turf pa yung thread about him.

pwede rin sa d league section. or sa uaap ;D


I believe mas appropriate nga kung sa PBA D-League Thread nalang tayo magkita-kits. Until such time na pati doon eh hindi narin i-renew ang kontrata ko. :D

LION
10-11-2011, 09:33 AM
I think our favorite ironcoach deserves to have his own exclususive thread. This is yours, coach! :)

LION
10-11-2011, 09:37 AM
^^ i think ibig niyang sabihin sir kung tama pa bang nasa UE turf pa yung thread about him.

pwede rin sa d league section. or sa uaap ;D


I believe mas appropriate nga kung sa PBA D-League Thread nalang tayo magkita-kits. Until such time na pati doon eh hindi narin i-renew ang kontrata ko. :D


I've created a special thread for you in the PBA D-League forum, coach. :)

This will also put a stop to the discussion of non-UE related topics in this sub-forum.

LION
10-11-2011, 09:41 AM
Coach, how did you start your coaching career? Papano ba nagsimula lahat?

What was/were your defining moment/s as a coach?

Is coaching financially rewarding?

Madali bang makakuha ng chicks pag coach ka? ;D

Joescoundrel
10-11-2011, 09:58 AM
Coach what would you say is the biggest difference between the UAAP and NCAA players, and the non-UAAP / non-NCAA players when it comes to PBL and PBA D League play?

Sino mas madaling dalhin sa ensayo at sa laro?

ironcoach
10-11-2011, 10:34 AM
^^ i think ibig niyang sabihin sir kung tama pa bang nasa UE turf pa yung thread about him.

pwede rin sa d league section. or sa uaap ;D


I believe mas appropriate nga kung sa PBA D-League Thread nalang tayo magkita-kits. Until such time na pati doon eh hindi narin i-renew ang kontrata ko. :D

I've created a special thread for you in the PBA D-League forum, coach. :)

This will also put a stop to the discussion of non-UE related topics in this sub-forum.



Just browsed through the UE 2009 Season 72 Topic. 7 pages in all. Read it for the 1st time ever. Its like going down memory lane. Parang kailan lang. Was watching Paul Lee, Rudy Lingganay & James Martinez strut their wares for their respective PBA teams last Sunday. I had goose-bumps. The mystery of life...and time.

Thanks for the time and space here on the Red Warriors Camp Thread. Time to move on just like everybody else. Time to visit and checkout my new thread in the PBA D-League. From the bottom of my heart...thank you so much to one and all. Hasta La Vista. from...THE IRONCOACH.

ironcoach
10-11-2011, 10:53 AM
I think our favorite ironcoach deserves to have his own exclususive thread. This is yours, coach! :)


Wow!!! Home sweet home!! Kao-open ko palang dito eh ramdam ko na agad yung aliwalas at luwag ng pag-hinga. Yung feeling na finally...natakasan ko na yung multo sa aking likuran for the past 9 months. Admittedly, my 2-year UAAP experience had its rewards on my career as far as exposure and my resume is concerned. But it didn't come without the pain, the frustrations and a lot of stress and anxiety.
It had its shock-factor also and a major dose of rude-awakening. But its all behind me now. I was able to survive, move on and more importantly...breathe again.

Thank you so much for this thread, LION. I made a call and you answered and came through in a flash. I owe you a couple of bottles of BORACAY RUM for your gesture. Galing.

easter
10-11-2011, 11:14 AM
Caoch ano bang meron sa UAAP coaching drama?

Sa PBA kahit nagtatalo ang coach ang tagal matanggal parang gobyerno iniikot lang sa ibang teams or minsan demoted lang as assistant or palitan lang parang SMB. Pero sa UAAP matindi, it seems that the only way to keep your job for at least another year is to win a championship! If a UAAP coach loses there will be rumors circling around na matatanggal na. Pido Jarencio matatanggal na daw kahit nag-overachived this year. Si Johhnny A. daw ang papalit kay Bert Flores kasi di rin nag-champion. Ikaw naman tinaggal porket di pumasok sa finals kahit na injured si Paul Lee and wala na si Elmer Espiritu that year.

Mga alumni ba talaga ang malakas ang influence sa UAAP at sila ang nagpapatanggal sa coach?

Sidenote: Wala palang coach ang Philippine Patriots, have they contacted you to coach the team?

ironcoach
10-11-2011, 11:28 AM
Coach, how did you start your coaching career? Papano ba nagsimula lahat?

What was/were your defining moment/s as a coach?

Is coaching financially rewarding?

Madali bang makakuha ng chicks pag coach ka? ;D


My career started when Mr. Bong Tan became a teamate in the St. Jude Catholic School Alumni Basketball Team back in 1999. Back then, i was always the coaches' nightmare as a player and never even dreamt of being a basketball coach. I had a Scottie Pippen game but with a Dennis Rodman attitude, so to speak. ;)

On X'mas Eve 1999, boss Bong offered me a job as an assistant coach for the then Tanduay Rhumasters in the PBA and as an assistant coach also for the UE Warriors. It was hell during my first few months on the job. The head coach at that time didn't relish my existence in the team coz i was the bosses' appointee rather than his. And he had his staff with him also and that sort of made me the odd man out.

Probably thats how the fighter and survivor in me emerged. I wasn't gonna be deprived of work. I was a single dad who had an 11 year old boy to raise (that boy just graduated from college at DLSU). My love for my son, and the game of basketball kept me going despite the odds. They thought i'd be running to boss Bong for help but i opted to stand up to the challenges and difficulties head-on. I was there to make a decent living and to learn. The coaching staff and management never made things easy for me but it only fueled the fire that was burning inside me to 1 day prove to everybody that i can do this.

Its been 12 years now and im still fighting. And surviving. 2 years as an assistant coach/saling-pusa with the Tanduay-PBA, 1 year as a UE assistant, 1 year as head coach of the Pangasinan Waves in the MBA, 3 years as head coach in the NBL/ NBC, 6 years as head coach in the PBL, 2 years in the UAAP, and now in the PBA D- League. My 11-year old son will be turning 23 next month. I have remained single all these time coz in my heart and in my veins, im already married. I am married to this GAME.

LION
10-11-2011, 11:38 AM
Coach, how did you start your coaching career? Papano ba nagsimula lahat?

What was/were your defining moment/s as a coach?

Is coaching financially rewarding?

Madali bang makakuha ng chicks pag coach ka? ;D


My career started when Mr. Bong Tan became a teamate in the St. Jude Catholic School Alumni Basketball Team back in 1999. Back then, i was always the coaches' nightmare as a player and never even dreamt of being a basketball coach. I had a Scottie Pippen game but with a Dennis Rodman attitude, so to speak. ;)

On X'mas Eve 1999, boss Bong offered me a job as an assistant coach for the then Tanduay Rhumasters in the PBA and as an assistant coach also for the UE Warriors. It was hell during my first few months on the job. The head coach at that time didn't relish my existence in the team coz i was the bosses' appointee rather than his. And he had his staff with him also and that sort of made me the odd man out.

Probably thats how the fighter and survivor in me emerged. I wasn't gonna be deprived of work. I was a single dad who had an 11 year old boy to raise (that boy just graduated from college at DLSU). My love for my son, and the game of basketball kept me going despite the odds. They thought i'd be running to boss Bong for help but i opted to stand up to the challenges and difficulties head-on. I was there to make a decent living and to learn. The coaching staff and management never made things easy for me but it only fueled the fire that was burning inside me to 1 day prove to everybody that i can do this.

Its been 12 years now and im still fighting. And surviving. 2 years as an assistant coach/saling-pusa with the Tanduay-PBA, 1 year as a UE assistant, 1 year as head coach of the Pangasinan Waves in the MBA, 3 years as head coach in the NBL/ NBC, 6 years as head coach in the PBL, 2 years in the UAAP, and now in the PBA D- League. My 11-year old son will be turning 23 next month. I have remained single all these time coz in my heart and in my veins, im already married. I am married to this GAME.


Thanks coach. A lot of people may not be your fan as a coach but they do appreciate your candor and sensible answers to people who want to know more about you.

Keep writing and sharing your stories. You've got a home here.

ironcoach
10-11-2011, 12:01 PM
Caoch ano bang meron sa UAAP coaching drama?

Sa PBA kahit nagtatalo ang coach ang tagal matanggal parang gobyerno iniikot lang sa ibang teams or minsan demoted lang as assistant or palitan lang parang SMB. Pero sa UAAP matindi, it seems that the only way to keep your job for at least another year is to win a championship! If a UAAP coach loses there will be rumors circling around na matatanggal na. Pido Jarencio matatanggal na daw kahit nag-overachived this year. Si Johhnny A. daw ang papalit kay Bert Flores kasi di rin nag-champion. Ikaw naman tinaggal porket di pumasok sa finals kahit na injured si Paul Lee and wala na si Elmer Espiritu that year.

Mga alumni ba talaga ang malakas ang influence sa UAAP at sila ang nagpapatanggal sa coach?

Sidenote: Wala palang coach ang Philippine Patriots, have they contacted you to coach the team?


In my opinion and experience, combination ng pulitika, social unrest within the community tsaka partisanship. In my case, may hawak silang mga petition letters for me to be replaced by an alumnus coach. Para bang yung sinabi ng isang national hero o ex-president ng Pilipinas dati na "we'd rather be ran like hell by a Filipino rather than be ran by hell by an American" o Spanish ba yon??? Basta parang ganun.

Yung mga petition for me to be replaced ay galing sa sari-saring alumni association, sa student council, sa employees association. Yung sa student council petition nga tadtad ng maliliit na pirma ng mga estudyante. Yung ka-close ko rin na secretary sa marketing office at alumni association naka-pirma rin. Nandun din yung mga pirma ng mga nakasama at naka-giliwan/naka-bonding ko dun sa Alumni Homecoming na ginanap last year sa Las Vegas. So how can you argue? Naging inutil nga pati si boss Bong sa mga nangyari. Pati siya walang nagawa what more ako.

But time had past and people and events have all moved on, me included. Whatever transpired in my job sa UAAP, i've lifted them all up to the Lord na. With all the politics and sentiments that they have over there, it could turn out to be a blessing for me to leave early than later and be sorry for it. And i feel na mas karapat-dapat din yung successor ko sa pwesto na yon rather me. For one, he's an alumnus that people there can easily identify and love. And they'll be more forgiving and understanding in times of failure.

I thought for all my efforts, sacrifices and loyalty that they'll love and treasure me but i was wrong. And then there's a lesson for all of us to learn, even if its the hard way...YOU CANNOT TEACH HEART.

ironcoach
10-11-2011, 12:10 PM
Coach what would you say is the biggest difference between the UAAP and NCAA players, and the non-UAAP / non-NCAA players when it comes to PBL and PBA D League play?

Sino mas madaling dalhin sa ensayo at sa laro?


Talent is talent is talent is talent wherever you came from. From the uaap, the ncaa, from the north or from the south. From the backyard or from the streets. It doesn't matter where one comes from as long as he got game. Ekwe from Nigeria, Sudan from Dominguez Hills, California, the Semerads from Australia, Garvo from Zamboanga, Rome dela Rosa from L.A....

Basta yung tamang breaks, tamang timing, tamang attitude, disiplina at pursigi, tamang tadhana, right place at the right time...hindi lang PBL o D-League...pati PBA kayang marating. Just live the dream.

Joescoundrel
10-11-2011, 12:42 PM
Coach what is your take on coaching clinics and coaching seminars?

Do you attend these things?

Do you get invited as a resource person?

Do you think they can really help a guy who has made coaching a living?

Joescoundrel
10-11-2011, 12:44 PM
Coach, in all your years of coaching, have you ever suspected any of your guys of throwing or selling a game?

I have always believed that it is difficult to tell if a guy is having an off-night or he's deliberately throwing a game. Has your experience at the various levels of the game given you any tell-tale signs when a player is most likely throwing a game?

Joescoundrel
10-11-2011, 12:45 PM
Coach, how do you deal with the various referees and referee organizations?

Are there particular referees that just plain piss you off?

Who for you are the (relatively) better or more consistent referees in terms of how they call games?

ironcoach
10-11-2011, 01:43 PM
Coach what is your take on coaching clinics and coaching seminars?

Do you attend these things?

Do you get invited as a resource person?

Do you think they can really help a guy who has made coaching a living?


I've only been to 3 camps/clinics in my whole life. And i only did it upon the prodding of boss Bong. I went to Stanford University of coach Johnny Dawkins, Univ. of North Carolina of coach Roy Williams and Duke University under coach Mike Krzyzewski. Natutunan ko lang naman dun yung dedication tsaka maging pulido sa trabaho. As far as x's & o's, hindi nila tayo maiintindihan coz magkaiba tayo ng kultura pagdating din sa basketball. To each his own kumbaga.

For me personally, mas enlightening yung mga narinig ko sa CCF. There were a couple of times in the past na ni-request ni PBL Commissioner Chino Trinidad na umattend ang mga teams dun sa symposium ng CCF. A lot of my players then were UE players and dun nga sa 2nd time na pagdalo namin sa kanila, i brought the whole UE team along.

Napag-usapan dun yung mga pananaw sa buhay while competing at the same time. It was both motivating and soul-cleansing at the same time.

There were a few times that i was requested to speak before groups and also to give tips in basketball camps for kids. 1 that stands out was when i was invited to speak in the Rotary Club headed by chess GM Eugene Torre. I was also able to hold a basketball clinic for the mentally-incapacitated. Nakakalungkot but i was glad to have shared some moments with them and put some smile on their faces. i also went home with a few lessons in life coming from them as well.

ironcoach
10-11-2011, 01:53 PM
What was/were your defining moment/s as a coach?

Is coaching financially rewarding?

Madali bang makakuha ng chicks pag coach ka? ;D


My defining moment as a coach was in 2009 when i led UE to its 1st ever win in a Final 4 series in school history, and for beating FEU in the playoffs for the 1st time since 1998 (via twice to beat) also in the same year. Add to it the 20 point-win over Ateneo and Norman Black in game 2 of the UAAP Season 72 Finals.

Financially rewarding?? Yes. For me it was/is.

Madaling makakuha ng chicks?? Pwede. Parang.

Big Ticket
10-11-2011, 02:17 PM
since this is a d-league thread....

coach, sinu-sino po ang nasa lineup ng boracay rum team?

ironcoach
10-11-2011, 02:20 PM
Do you think they can really help a guy who has made coaching a living?


Wala na ako ibang ginagawa sa buhay ko for the past 12 years kundi ang mag-coach ng basketball at maging tatay ( but since college graduate na ang anak ko, more like mag-barkada nalang kami ngayon). Those 2 endeavors technically share the same approach and wisdom for it to succeed or to improve on. Kelangan you demand discipline, dedication, a lot of love and hardwork. Everytime im with Paul Lee nakakalimutan ko na ngang player ko siya at hindi anak. Mas lalo na ngayon na he's under another coach na for the 1st time in 3 years, technically im not his coach anymore so what does that make me??? His father??? Add to the fact that Paul and his real-life father don't really have much of a relationship to begin with.

Thank God im getting paid to coach basketball and deal with a lot of craziness that comes with the territory. Since im single and my kid is already a grown-up, getting paid also enables me to help a lot of people in need. From the players' matriculation to their electric bills and families' medical needs. To my ballboys and staff and their families. And to the chapel being built inside UE Caloocan. And to people outside my basketball circle. Mang Rene, the longtime utility staff at UE is a testament to this. Having worked at UE for decades under different coaches. From Esguerra to Zamar to Pumaren, he had been under me for only the last 2 years. But when UE decided to hire another coach, Mang Rene was let go as well, just like that. But since, in basketball lingo, "last
touch ako", i brought him along with me nalang to the D-League and continued giving him P1000.00 weekly allowance from my own pocket even after the D-League season ended just to help him survive.

Basketball is my means of making a living. But it also oftentimes extends out to help other people live as well.

ironcoach
10-11-2011, 02:37 PM
Coach, in all your years of coaching, have you ever suspected any of your guys of throwing or selling a game?

I have always believed that it is difficult to tell if a guy is having an off-night or he's deliberately throwing a game. Has your experience at the various levels of the game given you any tell-tale signs when a player is most likely throwing a game?


Suspected...never. In my honest to goodness gut-feel...yes. But just like you and everyone else, ur right. It is hard to prove and i deemed it best (and wise) to not go on a wild goose chase trying to find out the truth. Assuming you do find out, what are you gonna do about it?? Is kicking a player off the team enough?? Haven't we learned from the Barroca-fiasco? On how FEU opted to handle that situation? Today, FEU, again, is a bridesmaid to ADMU. Barroca, for his part, became a Gilas hero and now a certified Llamado with a max contract. All in the last 2 years.

In my last year at UE, i opened the discussion about an issue that people would rather sweep under the rug. I discussed game-fixing, the temptation, the would-be preys, the greed, the gullibility of some individuals, the repercussions and the threat it poses to my team. I may not have the fool-proof formula for it but i still preferred that we discuss about it. Just to be able to get it out in the open rather than pretend that it doesn't exist.

ironcoach
10-11-2011, 02:45 PM
Coach, how do you deal with the various referees and referee organizations?

Are there particular referees that just plain piss you off?

Who for you are the (relatively) better or more consistent referees in terms of how they call games?


Referees are the least of my problem. Kaya nga coach ako at sila ang referee. Dapat ako ang i-referee nila and not the other way around. Tsaka libre mura naman sa lahat ng tao ang mga referees so kung may bad calls sila, sisigawan o mumurahin ko nalang. I believe that all of us should be respecting our own, and other people's profession. Just like i've always reminded my players to just be playets and huwag ng maging referee. Im a coach and they're the refs. Problemahin nalang natin yung mga sariling trabaho natin. Some coaches worry about the officiating too much. Well, how about their coaching?? Can the referees worry about that also? Or who's gonna worry about that naman?

ironcoach
10-11-2011, 02:50 PM
since this is a d-league thread....

coach, sinu-sino po ang nasa lineup ng boracay rum team?


Bandaying, Rosopa (UE), Terso, Khobuntin, Hermosisima, Baloran (NU), Morial, De Guzman (CSB), Cornejo (MIT), Espiritu (Letran), Siruma ( PCU), Abaya (Lyceum), Sabellina (STI) and Eguilos (FEU).

animo
10-11-2011, 02:57 PM
For me personally, mas enlightening yung mga narinig ko sa CCF. There were a couple of times in the past na ni-request ni PBL Commissioner Chino Trinidad na umattend ang mga teams dun sa symposium ng CCF. A lot of my players then were UE players and dun nga sa 2nd time na pagdalo namin sa kanila, i brought the whole UE team along.

Napag-usapan dun yung mga pananaw sa buhay while competing at the same time. It was both motivating and soul-cleansing at the same time.



CCF?

animo
10-11-2011, 03:00 PM
coach, game time tomorrow... SBC vs SSC. where are you going to place your bet? and why?

amc11
10-11-2011, 03:04 PM
Follow up question coach :) ano po sa tingin niyo ang magiging key ng san beda para manalo sa baste bukas? salamat coach

ironcoach
10-11-2011, 03:09 PM
Do you think they can really help a guy who has made coaching a living?


Pareng Joe, same answer lang ang uulitin ko dito just like dun sa take mo on why Llagas isn't PBA material or caliber. Uulitin ko and hopefully this time, maunawaan mo na yung point na tinutumbok ko. Ok?

In life, most of the time, its not what you are but rather who you are. Kung ukol bubukol. Sobra-sobrang halimbawa na ang nasa kapaligiran natin for you to not have noticed. Examples: Marc Agustin naka-line up sa Petron (ginagamit pa kamo), Charles Tiu assistant coach not only ng Philippine National Team but also sa Powerade-PBA.

Kanya-kanyang kapalaran lang talaga. Sina coach Ato Tolentino at Francis Rodriguez nga mga missing in action. Hindi man lang yata nakatuntong ng PBA ever. Walang tamang-mali, walang magaling o bobo. Those aren't factors or basis anymore in this day and age, my friend.

Its all about destiny. Or knowing some and having influence over the powers that be can also come in handy. Parang showbiz lang yan. Just like i've been telling my son and Paul, actresses like Cherry Pie Picache, Cherie Gil, etc., eventhough they've been in the biz for the longest of time, have to nowadays content themselves and accept the fact that the likes of Kim Chiu and/or Marian Rivera will have top-billing ahead of them...coz thats the way the cookie crumbles.

ironcoach
10-11-2011, 03:13 PM
For me personally, mas enlightening yung mga narinig ko sa CCF. There were a couple of times in the past na ni-request ni PBL Commissioner Chino Trinidad na umattend ang mga teams dun sa symposium ng CCF. A lot of my players then were UE players and dun nga sa 2nd time na pagdalo namin sa kanila, i brought the whole UE team along.

Napag-usapan dun yung mga pananaw sa buhay while competing at the same time. It was both motivating and soul-cleansing at the same time.



CCF?


Its a Christian Fellowship Group. When we were there, they had Cito Beltran and Anthony Pangilinanas as speakers. Highly motivating stuff. Yun nga lang im not quite sure if my players understood a word that was said. Just kidding. ;)

ironcoach
10-11-2011, 03:19 PM
coach, game time tomorrow... SBC vs SSC. where are you going to place your bet? and why?


San Beda. Deeper bench tsaka may revenge factor. Huwag lang matakot makipag-palitan ng mukha sa Baste-B-E-A-S-T.
Rome Dela Rosa on Ronald Pascual. Stick na sa match-up na yan from start to finish.

ironcoach
10-11-2011, 03:29 PM
Coach, how do you deal with the various referees and referee organizations?

Are there particular referees that just plain piss you off?

Who for you are the (relatively) better or more consistent referees in terms of how they call games?


Hey. You know in my 5 1/2 years in the PBL wherein they have their own pool of referees (same refs used in UAAP 2009), everybody in the PBL including my staff knows that im not even familiar with the names of each referee. You make 'em all stand in front of me with all the names written on a piece of paper, i'll have a hard time figuring out who's who.

I just didn't care. If they make a bad call against my team that i can't stomach, who's to stop me from bitching at them?? Who's to stop me from ridiculing them on national TV & in front of a lot of people??? But then, who's gonna stop them from tossing me out of a ballgame? 4 free throws + ball possession for the team i originally set out to beat. Who's sorry (stupid) now??

ironcoach
10-11-2011, 03:36 PM
Hey, Lionman!! Look at what you've done! 140 views on this thread in less than 6 hours. This is all you, my man. You've just brought this thread to life. :D

LION
10-11-2011, 04:06 PM
^ Hahahaha.

Kumbaga sa yahoo, number 1 ka sa trending ironcoach.

It only means that you are very relevant and people are genuinely interested in what you have to say. Maybe because we are just internet warriors here, we talk a lot about basketball and pretend to be experts. Until you came here and offered real perspective. People are interested to hear from someone who's been there and done all that.

ironcoach
10-11-2011, 05:01 PM
^ Hahahaha.

Kumbaga sa yahoo, number 1 ka sa trending ironcoach.

It only means that you are very relevant and people are genuinely interested in what you have to say. Maybe because we are just internet warriors here, we talk a lot about basketball and pretend to be experts. Until you came here and offered real perspective. People are interested to hear from someone who's been there and done all that.

Hindi ba pwedeng Internet Soldiers or Internet Cowboys nalang? Lumayo na nga ako dun sa kabilang thread isinama mo naman dito. :D

I just didn't realize that i'd be a topic of interest to a lot of OTHER people out there. Unless kung yung naka- view dito eh yung mga USUAL SUSPECTS din pala. hehe. Btw, my team will called the BORACAY RUM WAVES in the D-League. I preferred the Boracay Rum Tsunami sana but management's afraid that we might get into trouble pa with officials of the Boracay Island or beach. So we decided to tame it up nalang. Oh well, whats in a name??

Ang coincidence lang nito, my very 1st head coaching job ever in my life was for a team called, you guess it, the Pangasinan Waves. :) Its as if na ipinahi-hiwatig sa akin na my careernhad gone 1 full circle na. Even my new assistant coach now, Potit de Vera, was also my assistant coach at that time. And after 9 years, we're back in each other's arms. :) Coincidence?? Hmm!

ironcoach
10-11-2011, 05:17 PM
Hey! I just checked. Yung topic ko sa kabilang thread had 10,161 views in just over 5 months. So if you do the math, thats approximately 2,000 views in every 30 days, 67 views per day. That means i should be more responsible in what i post from now on. Pero pano na ngayon yung spontaniety tsaka sincerity in my style of posting?

I guess i'll just have to go with the flow as usual. But please avoid asking difficult and uncompromising questions from now on. Ok?

The_Big_Cat
10-11-2011, 05:27 PM
coach, I thought you were interested with the SBC players to beef up your D-League squad?

LION
10-11-2011, 05:35 PM
Hey! I just checked. Yung topic ko sa kabilang thread had 10,161 views in just over 5 months. So if you do the math, thats approximately 2,000 views in every 30 days, 67 views per day. That means i should be more responsible in what i post from now on. Pero pano na ngayon yung spontaniety tsaka sincerity in my style of posting?

I guess i'll just have to go with the flow as usual. But please avoid asking difficult and uncompromising questions from now on. Ok?

Coach,

It's hard to separate basketball from showbiz and tsismis. We'll try to avoid really off-topic and overly sensitive questions but those that can't be avoided, it is understandable if you take time to ponder on how you should answer. Kunwari na lang off-line ka pa just to buy time.

I will be personally following your Boracay Rum Waves and will consider your team as my second team. I will of course be rooting first for the SBC team.

Since Boracay Rum Waves ang team mo, hawaiian shirts ba ang uniform ng coaching staff? ;D

animo
10-11-2011, 06:05 PM
For me personally, mas enlightening yung mga narinig ko sa CCF. There were a couple of times in the past na ni-request ni PBL Commissioner Chino Trinidad na umattend ang mga teams dun sa symposium ng CCF. A lot of my players then were UE players and dun nga sa 2nd time na pagdalo namin sa kanila, i brought the whole UE team along.

Napag-usapan dun yung mga pananaw sa buhay while competing at the same time. It was both motivating and soul-cleansing at the same time.



CCF?


Its a Christian Fellowship Group. When we were there, they had Cito Beltran and Anthony Pangilinanas as speakers. Highly motivating stuff. Yun nga lang im not quite sure if my players understood a word that was said. Just kidding. ;)


ic, is this the one in st. francis square?

easter
10-11-2011, 06:08 PM
Probably thats how the fighter and survivor in me emerged. I wasn't gonna be deprived of work. I was a single dad who had an 11 year old boy to raise (that boy just graduated from college at DLSU). My love for my son, and the game of basketball kept me going despite the odds. They thought i'd be running to boss Bong for help but i opted to stand up to the challenges and difficulties head-on. I was there to make a decent living and to learn. The coaching staff and management never made things easy for me but it only fueled the fire that was burning inside me to 1 day prove to everybody that i can do this.

Its been 12 years now and im still fighting. And surviving. 2 years as an assistant coach/saling-pusa with the Tanduay-PBA, 1 year as a UE assistant, 1 year as head coach of the Pangasinan Waves in the MBA, 3 years as head coach in the NBL/ NBC, 6 years as head coach in the PBL, 2 years in the UAAP, and now in the PBA D- League. My 11-year old son will be turning 23 next month. I have remained single all these time coz in my heart and in my veins, im already married. I am married to this GAME.


+100 points for Respect coach! Pareho pala tayong single dads! 8)

About yung CCF coach is this Christ's Commission Fellowship? If yes dito ka din ba nag-chuchurch?

ironcoach
10-11-2011, 10:18 PM
coach, I thought you were interested with the SBC players to beef up your D-League squad?


I was. But i thought the NCAA sked could compromise the preparation of my team. My team is already scheduled to play in the D-League opener on Oct.20 while the NCAA playoffs haven't even started yet. And what if SBC authorities wouldn't allow to lend some of the players to me at the last minute? I would've been left holding on to an empty bag, so to speak.

Ang lesson dito, grab the bull by the horn. Try to control your own destiny as much as you can. If it doesn't work, get back to the drawing board nalang uli and when the opportunity knocks at your door again, climb back up to the saddle nalang and try again.

ironcoach
10-11-2011, 10:21 PM
[quote=ironcoach ]

Coach,

It's hard to separate basketball from showbiz and tsismis. We'll try to avoid really off-topic and overly sensitive questions but those that can't be avoided, it is understandable if you take time to ponder on how you should answer. Kunwari na lang off-line ka pa just to buy time.

I will be personally following your Boracay Rum Waves and will consider your team as my second team. I will of course be rooting first for the SBC team.

Since Boracay Rum Waves ang team mo, hawaiian shirts ba ang uniform ng coaching staff? ;D



With matching board shorts pa kamo and Havaianas flip-flops. Thrown out kung thrown out. :)

ironcoach
10-11-2011, 10:24 PM
For me personally, mas enlightening yung mga narinig ko sa CCF. There were a couple of times in the past na ni-request ni PBL Commissioner Chino Trinidad na umattend ang mga teams dun sa symposium ng CCF. A lot of my players then were UE players and dun nga sa 2nd time na pagdalo namin sa kanila, i brought the whole UE team along.

Napag-usapan dun yung mga pananaw sa buhay while competing at the same time. It was both motivating and soul-cleansing at the same time.




CCF?


Its a Christian Fellowship Group. When we were there, they had Cito Beltran and Anthony Pangilinanas as speakers. Highly motivating stuff. Yun nga lang im not quite sure if my players understood a word that was said. Just kidding. ;)


ic, is this the one in st. francis square?


Yup. The 1st time, we went to St. Francis Square. The 2nd time, it was at Eastwood.

ironcoach
10-11-2011, 10:29 PM
Probably thats how the fighter and survivor in me emerged. I wasn't gonna be deprived of work. I was a single dad who had an 11 year old boy to raise (that boy just graduated from college at DLSU). My love for my son, and the game of basketball kept me going despite the odds. They thought i'd be running to boss Bong for help but i opted to stand up to the challenges and difficulties head-on. I was there to make a decent living and to learn. The coaching staff and management never made things easy for me but it only fueled the fire that was burning inside me to 1 day prove to everybody that i can do this.

Its been 12 years now and im still fighting. And surviving. 2 years as an assistant coach/saling-pusa with the Tanduay-PBA, 1 year as a UE assistant, 1 year as head coach of the Pangasinan Waves in the MBA, 3 years as head coach in the NBL/ NBC, 6 years as head coach in the PBL, 2 years in the UAAP, and now in the PBA D- League. My 11-year old son will be turning 23 next month. I have remained single all these time coz in my heart and in my veins, im already married. I am married to this GAME.



+100 points for Respect coach! Pareho pala tayong single dads! 8)

About yung CCF coach is this Christ's Commission Fellowship? If yes dito ka din ba nag-chuchurch?


I was just invited so i went. And it was really an enlightening experience. Seriously. But on the other hand, and honestly, i don't really go to church.

ironcoach
10-11-2011, 10:39 PM
Just took a long stroll from North Point to Causeway Bay after my roast goose dinner and it was quite an exercise. Stopped over in Times Square to window shop and grab a cup of Starbucks Cafe Americano Decaf and took a long rest before continuing my journey back to the hotel. Its been drizzling here in the Crown Colony but nothing like the rainstorm that we've been having back home. Heading to Macau tomorrow then back to Manila on Thursday night. Just chillin.

easter
10-12-2011, 06:17 AM
I was just invited so i went. And it was really an enlightening experience. Seriously. But on the other hand, and honestly, i don't really go to church.


Oks lang yan coach! If you have an opportunity try attending on Wednesdays or Sundays mas marami pang enlightening stuff dun!

ironcoach
10-12-2011, 08:13 AM
I was just invited so i went. And it was really an enlightening experience. Seriously. But on the other hand, and honestly, i don't really go to church.


Oks lang yan coach! If you have an opportunity try attending on Wednesdays or Sundays mas marami pang enlightening stuff dun!


Member ka ba ng CCF, sir? I really enjoyed those 2 occasions that i was able to go. So do you know Bro. Hans Pe? I used to ask him to pray over my team and players on the night before a tough or crucial game in the UAAP.

easter
10-12-2011, 08:51 AM
^Yes coach! Pero sa CCF Alabang and Sta. Rosa usually ako nagwoworship. Sorry di ko kilala si Bro. Hans Pe ang kilala ko dito sa Alabang si Pastor Joby Soriano yung anak ni Nestor de Villa (yes the actor).

Coach dito sa Alabang may sports ministry and is headed I think by BJ Manalo (yes the former Eaglet and Archer). Nakakatouch yung kanyang testimony. Si Larry Fonacier naman I think goes to CCF St. Francis. Here is a video of his inspiring testimony during the CCF's anniversary.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlLvEQjddGg

Coach I suggest you contact CCF St. Francis, they have people there in the sports ministry. They can send people there to your team on a regular basis or kelan pasok sa sched ninyo just arrange the time. They can conduct short talks and prayers for your team. If mahirapan ka coach in contacting them just tell me I will try something on my end to contact the sports ministry here pero siyempre mas maganda sana dyan kasi mukhang mas malapit sila sa inyo.

CCF Website
http://www.ccf.org.ph/
Phone: 635 3410

animo
10-12-2011, 09:06 AM
^Yes coach! Pero sa CCF Alabang and Sta. Rosa usually ako nagwoworship. Sorry di ko kilala si Bro. Hans Pe ang kilala ko dito sa Alabang si Pastor Joby Soriano yung anak ni Nestor de Villa (yes the actor).

Coach dito sa Alabang may sports ministry and is headed I think by BJ Manalo (yes the former Eaglet and Archer). Nakakatouch yung kanyang testimony. Si Larry Fonacier naman I think goes to CCF St. Francis. Here is a video of his inspiring testimony during the CCF's anniversary.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlLvEQjddGg

Coach I suggest you contact CCF St. Francis, they have people there in the sports ministry. They can send people there to your team on a regular basis or kelan pasok sa sched ninyo just arrange the time. They can conduct short talks and prayers for your team. If mahirapan ka coach in contacting them just tell me I will try something on my end to contact the sports ministry here pero siyempre mas maganda sana dyan kasi mukhang mas malapit sila sa inyo.

CCF Website
http://www.ccf.org.ph/
Phone: 635 3410


i think BJ Manalo is involve in AIA (athletes in action)?
Coach have you heard of Champions for Christ? based in the usa but i think they have a group here in Manila. i think Alvin Patrimonio is involve there.

ironcoach
10-12-2011, 10:31 AM
^Yes coach! Pero sa CCF Alabang and Sta. Rosa usually ako nagwoworship. Sorry di ko kilala si Bro. Hans Pe ang kilala ko dito sa Alabang si Pastor Joby Soriano yung anak ni Nestor de Villa (yes the actor).

Coach dito sa Alabang may sports ministry and is headed I think by BJ Manalo (yes the former Eaglet and Archer). Nakakatouch yung kanyang testimony. Si Larry Fonacier naman I think goes to CCF St. Francis. Here is a video of his inspiring testimony during the CCF's anniversary.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlLvEQjddGg

Coach I suggest you contact CCF St. Francis, they have people there in the sports ministry. They can send people there to your
team on a regular basis or kelan pasok sa sched ninyo just arrange the time. They can conduct short talks and prayers for your team. If mahirapan ka coach in contacting them just tell me I will try something on my end to contact the sports ministry here pero siyempre mas maganda sana dyan kasi mukhang mas malapit sila sa inyo.

CCF Website
http://www.ccf.org.ph/
Phone: 635 3410


i think BJ Manalo is involve in AIA (athletes in action)?
Coach have you heard of Champions for Christ? based in the usa but i think they have a group here in Manila. i think Alvin Patrimonio is involve there.


I was approached by Alex Compton about Champions for Christ way back in 2002. I was an asst. coach for the RP Team to the Jones Cup that year while Alex was 1 of our players. I believe Dondon Hontiveros was also involved with Champions. Im also the manager of Dondon.

But the thing is, im Catholic and these are Christian organizations.

easter
10-12-2011, 10:58 AM
I was approached by Alex Compton about Champions for Christ way back in 2002. I was an asst. coach for the RP Team to the Jones Cup that year while Alex was 1 of our players. I believe Dondon Hontiveros was also involved with Champions. Im also the manager of Dondon.

But the thing is, im Catholic and these are Christian organizations.


Oks lang yan coach! Everyone is welcome naman. I am sure they will be willing to go to you guys for talks and to pray for every member of the team regardless of background. They will also be respectful of your team's time so as not to disturb your planned activities.

ironcoach
10-12-2011, 11:10 AM
But the thing is, im Catholic and these are Christian organizations.


Oks lang yan coach! Everyone is welcome naman. I am sure they will be willing to go to you guys for talks and to pray for every member of the team regardless of background. They will also be respectful of your team's time so as not to disturb your planned activities.


Naku! Unti-unti parang nagiging The Ironcoach's Charismatic Thread na ito ah. :) But pls don't get me wrong. Yes, i am God-fearing and i adhere to the Commandments of Christ (i suppose). Pero hindi talaga ako a mananampalataya person.

Nevertheless, i respect every individual's right to worship and it just so happened that it ain't my style.

easter
10-12-2011, 11:19 AM
^ No problem coach! In case free ka lang or whenever you feel like it drop by ka lang ng CCF. Welcome ka dun for sure.

Anyway, para hindi na tayo OT, coach bilang isang ordinaryong tao paano ba manood ng basketball in an intelligent way? Parang mentality ba ng coach habang nanonood. What are the things to look forward too?

Minsan kasi kaming fans nadadala lang sa sobrang galing ng isang player without realizing it tambak na pala yung team niya? Minsan naman nararamdaman namin kahit na maganda pinapakita ng isang team, parang nakikinita mo na hindi rin talaga nila kontrolado ang laro and sure enough babalik yung other team and magugulat ka tambakan na?

In short paano ba manood ng isang basketball game ang isang coach as compared to an ordinary fan?

red_engr1987
10-12-2011, 11:28 AM
hi Ironcoach,

Do you have any plan writing a book for yourself or asking somebody to write your story "This is my life....Coach Lawrence Chongson" .... OR "The life story of Coach Lawrence Chongson". Coach proposed title lang yun but i am sure there's a lot of writer would like to write your story and put all those things together in a book. You made a lot of post, revelation, no holds barred statement in PEX and gameface. We can have different chapters in your coaching career the ups and downs, winning moment, defeat, your life coaching and beyond. Also your lovelife (lol), personal struggles your triumph and defeat etc. etc..

Invite mo na lang ako sa book launching pag nag materialize, for sure yung mga sports analyst will give their opinion in your coaching style and maybe we can also include the mastermind para balance yung context ng book

ironcoach
10-12-2011, 12:10 PM
^ No problem coach! In case free ka lang or whenever you feel like it drop by ka lang ng CCF. Welcome ka dun for sure.

Anyway, para hindi na tayo OT, coach bilang isang ordinaryong tao paano ba manood ng basketball in an intelligent way? Parang mentality ba ng coach habang nanonood. What are the things to look forward too?

Minsan kasi kaming fans nadadala lang sa sobrang galing ng isang player without realizing it tambak na pala yung team niya? Minsan naman nararamdaman namin kahit na maganda pinapakita ng isang team, parang nakikinita mo na hindi rin talaga nila kontrolado ang laro and sure enough babalik yung other team and magugulat ka tambakan na?

In short paano ba manood ng isang basketball game ang isang coach as compared to an ordinary fan?


When i said na secondary lang yung skills and talent ng isang player, and not as important a factor as yung dictate ng destiny niya, same holds true for us coaches and likewise, with observers.

Im sure hindi ni coach Rajko malilimutan yung mga conversations that we had when we sat beside each other nung opening day ng PBA. I can sense na halos pareho lang ang basa namin sa basketball game/players dito sa Pilipinas. As i've said, we have our own unique basketball culture. A lot of politics, showbiz and power-plays outside the playing court.

Im sure a lot of our basketball personalities also know this fact. But by being basketball slaves (just like me), you just don't kill the goose that lays the golden egg, so to speak. Ikinabubuhay namin ito kaya ride on nalang and shut your mouth. Yes sir nalang ng yes sir kaysa mabura sa eksena. Ako nga muntik- muntikan na nung may mga nairita at dinaplisan ako kahit na ba pawang katotohanan lang ang inilahad ko. Napilitan pa nga akong lulunin at tanggapin nalang yung hindi mabayaran sa inabono kong halos isang milyong piso kasi nga posibleng hindi lang yan ang sapitin ko kung mangungulit pa ako.

Siga man ako, kailangan parin gamitin ang utak. Nandyan lang naman yan kung dumating ang araw na maging bigatin na ako at maisipan kong bumwelta. Kung hindi man mangyari yon, asa nalang sa Karma as a last resort.

Tulad ng sinabi ko, kapag ang gusto ng coach i-draft eh yung mahusay at ubod ng galing na player, pero ang gusto nung may-ari o GM ng team eh yung sikat at pogi...sino ang masusunod?? Kung ang isang team eh handang lumustay, yung isa naman adheres to value for money at yung isang team naman eh kailangan ng pera para maka-survive ang kanilang operasyon kaya ibinibenta ang kanilang mga marquee players...anong pakialam natin. Manonood lang naman tayo diba? Kung ayaw mong magpaloko, may iba pa namang maloloko dyan.

ironcoach
10-12-2011, 12:15 PM
hi Ironcoach,

Do you have any plan writing a book for yourself or asking somebody to write your story "This is my life....Coach Lawrence Chongson" .... OR "The life story of Coach Lawrence Chongson". Coach proposed title lang yun but i am sure there's a lot of writer would like to write your story and put all those things together in a book. You made a lot of post, revelation, no holds barred statement in PEX and gameface. We can have different chapters in your coaching career the ups and downs, winning moment, defeat, your life coaching and beyond. Also your lovelife (lol), personal struggles your triumph and defeat etc. etc..

Invite mo na lang ako sa book launching pag nag materialize, for sure yung mga sports analyst will give their opinion in your coaching style and maybe we can also include the mastermind para balance yung context ng book


Parang ok yan ah. Do you have a good novelist or writer in mind? Somebody who can put everything together. Sa sponsorships lang ako magaling eh. Sagot ko na yon.

razor
10-12-2011, 01:18 PM
coach, I thought you were interested with the SBC players to beef up your D-League squad?


I was. But i thought the NCAA sked could compromise the preparation of my team. My team is already scheduled to play in the D-League opener on Oct.20 while the NCAA playoffs haven't even started yet. And what if SBC authorities wouldn't allow to lend some of the players to me at the last minute? I would've been left holding on to an empty bag, so to speak.

Ang lesson dito, grab the bull by the horn. Try to control your own destiny as much as you can. If it doesn't work, get back to the drawing board nalang uli and when the opportunity knocks at your door again, climb back up to the saddle nalang and try again.


Coach, I heard SBC-Maynilad has no team this conference. In fact, Rome Dela Rosa and Melo Lim will be playing for PC Gilmore. Baka wala pa team sila Baser Amer, the Semerad twins, Kyle Pascual, etc. ;)

LION
10-12-2011, 02:05 PM
hi Ironcoach,

Do you have any plan writing a book for yourself or asking somebody to write your story "This is my life....Coach Lawrence Chongson" .... OR "The life story of Coach Lawrence Chongson". Coach proposed title lang yun but i am sure there's a lot of writer would like to write your story and put all those things together in a book. You made a lot of post, revelation, no holds barred statement in PEX and gameface. We can have different chapters in your coaching career the ups and downs, winning moment, defeat, your life coaching and beyond. Also your lovelife (lol), personal struggles your triumph and defeat etc. etc..

Invite mo na lang ako sa book launching pag nag materialize, for sure yung mga sports analyst will give their opinion in your coaching style and maybe we can also include the mastermind para balance yung context ng book


Parang ok yan ah. Do you have a good novelist or writer in mind? Somebody who can put everything together. Sa sponsorships lang ako magaling eh. Sagot ko na yon.


Pwede na ba si Carlo J. Caparas, coach?

Wang-Bu
10-12-2011, 02:30 PM
coach, kumusta naman ang ensayo...? wala bang fil-am sa inyo ngayon?

Sam Miguel
10-12-2011, 02:34 PM
Coach, where for you is the best local dimsum place in Metro Manila?

red_engr1987
10-12-2011, 02:59 PM
hi Ironcoach,

Do you have any plan writing a book for yourself or asking somebody to write your story "This is my life....Coach Lawrence Chongson" .... OR "The life story of Coach Lawrence Chongson". Coach proposed title lang yun but i am sure there's a lot of writer would like to write your story and put all those things together in a book. You made a lot of post, revelation, no holds barred statement in PEX and gameface. We can have different chapters in your coaching career the ups and downs, winning moment, defeat, your life coaching and beyond. Also your lovelife (lol), personal struggles your triumph and defeat etc. etc..

Invite mo na lang ako sa book launching pag nag materialize, for sure yung mga sports analyst will give their opinion in your coaching style and maybe we can also include the mastermind para balance yung context ng book


Parang ok yan ah. Do you have a good novelist or writer in mind? Somebody who can put everything together. Sa sponsorships lang ako magaling eh. Sagot ko na yon.


Pwede na ba si Carlo J. Caparas, coach?




Sir LION movie director si Carlo J. Caparas derecho na ba sa movie life story ni IRONCOACH later na lang yung book???

LION
10-12-2011, 03:08 PM
Biography muna tapos pelikula. ;D

Note that before Carlo became a movie director, he was a very successful novelist/writer. ;D

maroonmartian
10-12-2011, 06:04 PM
Biography muna tapos pelikula. ;D

Note that before Carlo became a movie director, he was a very successful novelist/writer. ;D




Pwede rin po comics muna. ;D Para sa masa.

animo
10-12-2011, 06:14 PM
coach, game time tomorrow... SBC vs SSC. where are you going to place your bet? and why?


San Beda. Deeper bench tsaka may revenge factor. Huwag lang matakot makipag-palitan ng mukha sa Baste-B-E-A-S-T.
Rome Dela Rosa on Ronald Pascual. Stick na sa match-up na yan from start to finish.


nice prediction coach. SBC won 91-70

ironcoach
10-12-2011, 11:02 PM
coach, I thought you were interested with the SBC players to beef up your D-League squad?


I was. But i thought the NCAA sked could compromise the preparation of my team. My team is already scheduled to play in the D-League opener on Oct.20 while the NCAA playoffs haven't even started yet. And what if SBC authorities wouldn't allow to lend some of the players to me at the last minute? I would've been left holding on to an empty bag, so to speak.

Ang lesson dito, grab the bull by the horn. Try to control your own destiny as much as you can. If it doesn't work, get back to the
drawing board nalang uli and when the opportunity knocks at your door again, climb back up to the saddle nalang and try again.


Coach, I heard SBC-Maynilad has no team this conference. In fact, Rome Dela Rosa and Melo Lim will be playing for PC Gilmore. Baka wala pa team sila Baser Amer, the Semerad twins, Kyle Pascual, etc. ;)


I would love to have Baser & Kyle. But i doubt Frankie would allow them to play in the D-League til the end of the season (late May 2012). For sure after 1 conference (end of Feb.) ipu-pull out din ang mga Beda boys to prepare for next year's NCAA. Makaka-apekto lang yan sa continuity ng team ko.

I doubt if we'll be contenders this season since wala na sina Lee & Acibar + the fact that we started to form our team late na. Last Sunday lang nabuo ang team namin while teams like Cebuana had started practice almost 2 months ago. And till now wala paring clearcut na drafting & rights to players procedure ang D-League kaya kanya-kanyang hakutan at pirate-an ang nangyari. Nabigla nalang nga ako at pumirma si Paul Sanga (played for me last conference) sa Cebuana.

Im not complaining though. Im still allowing or giving the D-League some leeway muna since bagong liga palang naman yan. Let it go through birth pains muna so to speak. And i intend to build my team slowly rather than apply quick-fix diskarte. Ngayon palang nga may mga teams na ang lumalabag sa salary cap ng D-League. But i intend to do it the Alaska way. Build slowly lang & don't kill ourselves by overspending. Madaling ma-frustrate yung mga teams na todo-gastos para lang manalo right away and pag hindi manalo...disband kadalasan ang ending. Mag-eenjoy lang muna kami and give the league time to make itself prestigious then thats the time na pupukpok na kami.

I've learned and seen a lot during my 6-years stint sa PBL. I've seen how teams overspend & how some just shoot themselves on the foot. Sa mga nagtagumpay na mag-champion, what price those trophies now since the PBL is dead already? And to those who spent so much and never even won a single championship? Im happy for the players who've went on to carve a career in the pros. God bless them all. But how about the teams?? It even came to a point that there were only 4 teams left breathing and wished to continue. Sana the new teams in the D-League would take their cue from what happened in the PBL. But then again, pera naman nila yan.

ironcoach
10-12-2011, 11:04 PM
hi Ironcoach,

Do you have any plan writing a book for yourself or asking somebody to write your story "This is my life....Coach Lawrence Chongson" .... OR "The life story of Coach Lawrence Chongson". Coach proposed title lang yun but i am sure there's a lot of writer would like to write your story and put all those things together in a book. You made a lot of post, revelation, no holds barred statement in PEX and gameface. We can have different chapters in your coaching career the ups and downs, winning moment, defeat, your life coaching and beyond. Also your lovelife (lol), personal struggles your triumph and defeat etc. etc..

Invite mo na lang ako sa book launching pag nag materialize, for sure yung mga sports analyst will give their opinion in your
coaching style and maybe we can also include the mastermind para balance yung context ng book


Parang ok yan ah. Do you have a good novelist or writer in mind? Somebody who can put everything together. Sa sponsorships lang ako magaling eh. Sagot ko na yon.


Pwede na ba si Carlo J. Caparas, coach?


Hahaha!

ironcoach
10-12-2011, 11:05 PM
coach, kumusta naman ang ensayo...? wala bang fil-am sa inyo ngayon?


Wala kaming Fil-Am this conference. Puro homegrown muna ang bibigyan natin ng breaks.

ironcoach
10-12-2011, 11:08 PM
Coach, where for you is the best local dimsum place in Metro Manila?


Try LUGANG along Connecticut St. in Greenhills. Of course GloriaMaris also in Greenhills.

ironcoach
10-12-2011, 11:09 PM
coach, game time tomorrow... SBC vs SSC. where are you going to place your bet? and why?


San Beda. Deeper bench tsaka may revenge factor. Huwag lang matakot makipag-palitan ng mukha sa Baste-B-E-A-S-T.
Rome Dela Rosa on Ronald Pascual. Stick na sa match-up na yan from start to finish.


nice prediction coach. SBC won 91-70


Na-chambahan lang. Congrats to you guys.

LION
10-13-2011, 09:18 AM
Coach, where for you is the best local dimsum place in Metro Manila?


Try LUGANG along Connecticut St. in Greenhills. Of course GloriaMaris also in Greenhills.


LImited parking sa Lugang. Park elsewhere and walk all the way to Lugang. The place is always full so don't go there when you're really hungry already unless you have a reservation.

Also, try Kavino in Jupiter Makati. Chef Kavino is from HK and he's a master international chef. Highly recommended.

ironcoach
10-13-2011, 10:33 AM
Coach, where for you is the best local dimsum place in Metro Manila?


Try LUGANG along Connecticut St. in Greenhills. Of course GloriaMaris also in Greenhills.


LImited parking sa Lugang. Park elsewhere and walk all the way to Lugang. The place is always full so don't go there when you're really hungry already unless you have a reservation.

Also, try Kavino in Jupiter Makati. Chef Kavino is from HK and he's a master international chef. Highly recommended.


Kaya nga na-master ko rin somehow ang the Art of Life. If you have a 2pm late lunch, di wala kang kalaban sa parking. Kaya nga my team practices starts at 12nn para my players don't have to jostle with the daily commuters. Then we end at 3pm para hindi na sila makisabay pa sa afternoon rush hour. Bawas stress.

ironcoach
10-13-2011, 10:44 AM
coach, kumusta naman ang ensayo...? wala bang fil-am sa inyo ngayon?


Sir Wang-Bu, i think you owe me an apology for posting several times in the past about me supposedly pocketing or short-changing some of our players of their salaries. You specifically indicated that this happened in the very last conference of the PBL sometime in the middle of last year.

I am strongly denying your accusation here. What you've posted is very damaging to my reputation eventhough through time, i've learned to let it slide. More often than not, ako pa nga ang madalas na abonado sa mga teams that i've handled kaya what you've accused me of was really out of line.

Im a firm believer in karma kaya "i wouldn't do unto others what i wouldn't want others to do unto me".

yungha
10-13-2011, 11:47 AM
coach, do you have a policy with your players on smoking? on one hand, it's a free country and they can smoke if they want to. on the other, it affects their endurance and baka pag endgame when they need to be fresh, kapos na sila sa hangin.

ironcoach
10-13-2011, 12:17 PM
coach, do you have a policy with your players on smoking? on one hand, it's a free country and they can smoke if they want to. on the other, it affects their endurance and baka pag endgame when they need to be fresh, kapos na sila sa hangin.


All the players that i've had through the years naman had been players na either from high school, college or from other PBA/PBL teams kaya hindi na problema o pino-problema ang bisyo. Lahat naman ng gawin natin sa buhay may consequences eh. At sa sikip ng labanan para makarating sa PBA at magkahanap-buhay ang isang player, matic na yan na they already know the do's & don'ts ng isang player na nangangarap mai-ahon ang pamilya o sarili sa kahirapan through basketball.

In some ways tinuturuan natin silang maging responsible at accountable kaysa yung dini-diktahan pa at tratuhing parang mga bata.

Joescoundrel
10-13-2011, 01:01 PM
Coach, how much of the success of the current PBA players who have been in the PBA at least five years or longer do you attribute to destiny, and how much do you attribute to hard work and dedication?

I am still a little confused about your take on this matter because you speak deeply of both factors - destiny and hard work - but you seem to favor the destiny part more, 'yun bang bukol at ukol na nabanggit mo.

Let us assume here that talent is not the question, kumbaga kung meron tayong sampung Paul Lee, equal talent and equal skill, in your view do you think all 10 of them would have 10-year all-star careers in the PBA?

Or will destiny somehow interfere and maybe strike down five out of the 10 Paul Lee's, like kunwari being put on a bad team, a coach who is too rigid and de kahon, a system not fit for their talent, etc...?

snadigan
10-13-2011, 03:30 PM
Coach, what's your take on our National Team/Smart Gilas' recent Wuhan campaign?If Given the chance,how would you form our national team?

sajubeads
10-13-2011, 10:10 PM
Coach , you mentioned De Guzman of CSB as one of your player for Boracay wave , is he Mark de Guzman now of NU team b and former RP youth guard or Jericho De Guzman , the 6-11 human beanpole?

ironcoach
10-13-2011, 10:36 PM
Coach, how much of the success of the current PBA players who have been in the PBA at least five years or longer do you attribute to destiny, and how much do you attribute to hard work and dedication?

I am still a little confused about your take on this matter because you speak deeply of both factors - destiny and hard work - but you seem to favor the destiny part more, 'yun bang bukol at ukol na nabanggit mo.

Let us assume here that talent is not the question, kumbaga kung meron tayong sampung Paul Lee, equal talent and equal skill, in your view do you think all 10 of them would have 10-year all-star careers in the PBA?

Or will destiny somehow interfere and maybe strike down five out of the 10 Paul Lee's, like kunwari being put on a bad team, a coach who is too rigid and de kahon, a system not fit for their talent, etc...?


Lets put it this way: 10% hardwork & discipline, 20% skills & talent, then 70% destiny (right place at the right time, connections, familiarity with either the coach or management, popularity, etc.)

You are dead right on the 10 Paul Lee equal talent & skill theory. I was reading today's papers on the game results last night and i thought to myself...Paul would've easily been a benchwarmer with either B-Meg & Alaska. We should both be thankful that the Lord answered our prayers for him to be drafted by Rain or Shine. God Bless your soul coach Yeng Guiao.

ironcoach
10-13-2011, 10:58 PM
Coach, what's your take on our National Team/Smart Gilas' recent Wuhan campaign?If Given the chance,how would you form our national team?


Mahirap sagutin ito coz national team ang involved. Lets admit it. We have fans and supporters of different sizes and shapes. May kanya-kanyang opinion ang mga fans basta pagdating sa basketball. May nabasa pa nga ako sa thread ng ilang mga SMC teams at ang gusto nila makuha nila ang lahat ng magagaling na players na babagay sa mga favorite teams nila. Its understandable to a point since supporters sila ng mga teams na yon but isinaalang-alang man lang ba nila na magiging pangit na yung liga kapag nagka-ganon?
In the case of Gilas, going back to your question, baka kapag iba ang nagpatakbo niyan at hindi si MVP, posibleng maging national issue yung inclusion ni Douthit since may mga patriots na fans pa tayo dito sa Pilipinas. Nung panahon ng NCC diba ikinondena yung pagkakaron ng naturalized players? As far as i can recall, yung BAP pa mismo ang nagsoli nung trophy ng mag-champion ang RP nung 1986 FIBA-ASIA(formerly ABC).

They also hired a couple of Fil-Ams to bolster the national team pero after less than 3 years, sa PBA rin pala ang bagsak. Ano yon? Pero ika nga its their right to make a living so it is what it is. And whats to stop Douthit from joining the PBA Draft in the near future? Diba he's Pinoy narin? Heard he's playing in the China Pro League coz mas malaki ang bigayan doon.

Basta when it comes to the national team, hands off ako diyan. Maybe pwede as 1 of the assistants. Or if they also pay me Toroman-money.

ironcoach
10-13-2011, 11:00 PM
Coach , you mentioned De Guzman of CSB as one of your player for Boracay wave , is he Mark de Guzman now of NU team b and former RP youth guard or Jericho De Guzman , the 6-11 human beanpole?


Its Jericho "Echo" de Guzman the human flagpole.

ironcoach
10-13-2011, 11:06 PM
Coach , you mentioned De Guzman of CSB as one of your player for Boracay wave , is he Mark de Guzman now of NU team b and former RP youth guard or Jericho De Guzman , the 6-11 human beanpole?


Its Jericho "Echo" de Guzman the human flagpole.


At kapag hindi siya mag-improve in the next 2-3 years, he'll become the human tadpole. ;)

Joescoundrel
10-14-2011, 07:24 AM
^ Human tadpole, tarages, I just sprayed hot coffee all over my own computer monitor and part of my lap, bumusina ka naman, Coach...! :-X

ironcoach
10-14-2011, 09:08 AM
Good morning, Joe. Sorry about that hot coffee. ;) oh by the way, i've read on the other threafs on how you were heavily endorsing some candidates for the DLSU coaching vacancy and i've noticed how you somehow never mentioned about me? Some of the candidates that you were heavily campaigning for, are either names of people that i've not even heard of, or names of people that aren't even in the country anymore.

If you wanna consider about qualifications, being a DLSU alumnus or UAAP achievements, experience and the most recent familiarity with the scheme of things in UAAP basketball. is there anybody that even comes close to my resume?? Now don't get me wrong. Its not as if im insisting on the post but merely citing about qualification.

Joescoundrel
10-14-2011, 09:12 AM
^ Coach, para sa akin kasi since friends naman kayo ni Boss Bong, and because I am also from UE, I cannot imagine you coaching any other UAAP team except for UE. Para na din I cannot imagine Norman Black coaching any other team except Ateneo. I am still hoping that maybe when the winds change that maybe you can return to coaching the Red Warriors.

ironcoach
10-14-2011, 09:47 AM
^ Coach, para sa akin kasi since friends naman kayo ni Boss Bong, and because I am also from UE, I cannot imagine you coaching any other UAAP team except for UE. Para na din I cannot imagine Norman Black coaching any other team except Ateneo. I am still hoping that maybe when the winds change that maybe you can return to coaching the Red Warriors.


Yan din ang naging sentimyento ko for a while there and have in fact foolishly thought that i will eventually coach UE until i grow old. The achievements & the connection have made me arrive to that conclusion and im sure you couldn't fault me on that. But was i wrong. And those petition letters are evidence of how unwanted i was to the majority of the UE community.

Well, i was just only trying to point out about yung qualification ko para ma-consider for the DLSU post. If i were to be asked, i would definitely accept it but only for 2years. I feel na may dapat pa akong patunayan at unfinished business sa UAAP. There's still a lesson to be taught.

easter
10-14-2011, 10:27 AM
Well, i was just only trying to point out about yung qualification ko para ma-consider for the DLSU post. If i were to be asked, i would definitely accept it but only for 2years. I feel na may dapat pa akong patunayan at unfinished business sa UAAP. There's still a lesson to be taught.


Bakit naman 2 years lang coach? Hindi ba mas matagal mas ok kasi mas madedevelop mo ang gusto mong sistema kung mas matagal?

red_engr1987
10-14-2011, 02:22 PM
^ Coach, para sa akin kasi since friends naman kayo ni Boss Bong, and because I am also from UE, I cannot imagine you coaching any other UAAP team except for UE. Para na din I cannot imagine Norman Black coaching any other team except Ateneo. I am still hoping that maybe when the winds change that maybe you can return to coaching the Red Warriors.


Sir Joe, dati ba kayong sportswriter sa UE "The Dawn" i am also from sa UE College of Engineering.
Sorry Ironcoach OT makikiraan lang po :)

Joescoundrel
10-14-2011, 03:31 PM
^ Hindi po, sir.

Kasi po nung time ko sa UE hindi ko type ang editorial staff nila, no way in hell was I going to work under the guys na inabutan ko dun. They could barely string five words together in any meaningful way. I was asked several times and I politely declined each time.

Nung last time na nangulit pa hindi na ko nakatiis. I simply said "Talk to me in the Queen's proper English and I might think about it." Nabigla yata si Editor, kaya tinalikuran ko na lang. Ayun, punta na kong batibot then tumagay na kami dun sa may pwesto ni Mang Tony.

Coach, second the motion lang sa tanong ni Boss Easter, bakit nga ba two years lang ang gusto mo if ever kunin ka ng Lasalle?

ironcoach
10-14-2011, 03:59 PM
Well, i was just only trying to point out about yung qualification ko para ma-consider for the DLSU post. If i were to be asked, i would definitely accept it but only for 2years. I feel na may dapat pa akong patunayan at unfinished business sa UAAP. There's still a lesson to be taught.


Bakit naman 2 years lang coach? Hindi ba mas matagal mas ok kasi mas madedevelop mo ang gusto mong sistema kung mas matagal?




Coz i feel that 2years ought to be enough for me to bring that team to the promised land. If i couldn't pull it off, at least man lang get to the Finals, then there's no reason for me to stay further. Tsaka yan na rin ang naging orientation ko in my 1st job sa UAAP. You get to the Finals 1year, then 6th place (6-8 record) sa 2nd year mo, goodbye ka na. Swerte nga ni coach Leo Austria at mas pasensyoso ang Adamson community.

maroonmartian
10-14-2011, 04:23 PM
Bigla ko naisip tungkol kay Jericho de Guzman. 6'11 tapos pang bench lang ? Napansin ko kasi mga local coaches WALA PA MAGALING NA BIG MAN COACH. You might be an exception (together with Louis Alas and Leo Austria) as you have develop Sam Razon and Kit Rosopa (pero dapat sa high school coach isisi yan). Ang question ko ay:

1) Tingin ninyo kaya napapabayaan ang ganitong malalaking player dahil walang nag-aatubili na idevelop sila? Kaya kailangan pa ng isang foreign coach or a new breed of coach para madevelop.

2) Or Filipinos like playing small and limiting our centers their skills sets (na hindi pa naman katangkaran) and ultimately their potential?

LION
10-14-2011, 05:43 PM
Bigla ko naisip tungkol kay Jericho de Guzman. 6'11 tapos pang bench lang ? Napansin ko kasi mga local coaches WALA PA MAGALING NA BIG MAN COACH. You might be an exception (together with Louis Alas and Leo Austria) as you have develop Sam Razon and Kit Rosopa (pero dapat sa high school coach isisi yan). Ang question ko ay:

1) Tingin ninyo kaya napapabayaan ang ganitong malalaking player dahil walang nag-aatubili na idevelop sila? Kaya kailangan pa ng isang foreign coach or a new breed of coach para madevelop.

2) Or Filipinos like playing small and limiting our centers their skills sets (na hindi pa naman katangkaran) and ultimately their potential?


Coach Louie Alas as big man coach? I can't recall any big man he really developed.

Almazan improved tremendously this year but he's not exactly a spring chicken. Mark Andaya was pirated from MLQU and was already competitive when he moved to Letran. Faundo and John Foronda showed littled improvement.

Alas I think is more of a guard-oriented coach.

Sorry for the OT.

ironcoach
10-14-2011, 10:03 PM
Bigla ko naisip tungkol kay Jericho de Guzman. 6'11 tapos pang bench lang ? Napansin ko kasi mga local coaches WALA PA MAGALING NA BIG MAN COACH. You might be an exception (together with Louis Alas and Leo Austria) as you have develop Sam Razon and Kit Rosopa (pero dapat sa high school coach isisi yan). Ang question ko ay:

1) Tingin ninyo kaya napapabayaan ang ganitong malalaking player dahil walang nag-aatubili na idevelop sila? Kaya kailangan pa ng isang foreign coach or a new breed of coach para madevelop.

2) Or Filipinos like playing small and limiting our centers their skills sets (na hindi pa naman katangkaran) and ultimately their potential?


I admit na nung unang nag-tryout si Jericho sa amin, yung height niya lang talaga ang nakakuha ng pansin ko pero deep in my heart, na-challenged talaga ako. No matter how good a coach is, they cannot teach height. And knowing boss Bong's line of thinking, if he finds out na pinalampas ko ang isang 6'11 at 21 yrs old na player, mawawala ang bilib sa akin nun.

Its been 2 weeks of practice sessions na ng team ko and hindi parin nagbabago ang interes ko kay Jericho. We're training him patiently and with high hopes that it will pay dividends later on. He has a decent touch from 10-15 feet and im encouraging him to take the open shots. We're also teaching him elementary post moves like posting up then pivoting to create a separation from his defender then take a face up bank shot...ala Tim Duncan.

Over and above his game, im also injecting him with a gigantic dose of confidence, which surprisingly, he does possess in his personality. And the best that i can offer him so far at this point was when i gave him a 2-year contract just to let him know that he will be in my plans for the long haul. That i will be patient and willing to persevere. At tuwing pagtatawanan siya everytime na siya'y magkamali, na nandito lang ako para i-angat, gabayan at damayan siya. Walang iwanan.

ironcoach
10-14-2011, 10:21 PM
Bigla ko naisip tungkol kay Jericho de Guzman. 6'11 tapos pang bench lang ? Napansin ko kasi mga local coaches WALA PA MAGALING NA BIG MAN COACH. You might be an exception (together with Louis Alas and Leo Austria) as you have develop Sam Razon and Kit Rosopa (pero dapat sa high school coach isisi yan). Ang question ko ay:

1) Tingin ninyo kaya napapabayaan ang ganitong malalaking player dahil walang nag-aatubili na idevelop sila? Kaya kailangan pa ng isang foreign coach or a new breed of coach para madevelop.

2) Or Filipinos like playing small and limiting our centers their skills sets (na hindi pa naman katangkaran) and ultimately their potential?


You forgot to mention Ken Acibar. He was in UE's team B for 2 years when i got there and he rode the bench on his rookie year under me. But look at him last year. He became a double/double monster enroute to capturing a spot on the UAAP mythical 5. Razon was also beginning to shine for us until an ACL injury grounded him. Adrian Santos was also beginning to contribute last year and if only i was able to tighten the screws on his head, Garrick Ayala could've also been a stalwart for us on the power-forward position.

Over at the PBL, Jason Ballesteros started out with me at a time when no one would even dare to gamble on him out of San Sebastian. I honestly don't believe that im a good big man's coach either. Maybe what i have is the vision, the gift to motivate, the patience and the trust which at the end of the day, we hope would pay dividends. And in case it didn't...at least i tried.

pio_valenz
10-14-2011, 11:50 PM
^Hey Coach. I saw you earlier this evening at the Rain or Shine-Talk N Text game. Courtside seat ka pala.

ironcoach
10-15-2011, 12:20 AM
^Hey Coach. I saw you earlier this evening at the Rain or Shine-Talk N Text game. Courtside seat ka pala.


Pumupuslit lang ako. I don't even have a ticket. Face value lang. ;)

I just wanted to provide Paul some support by catching his games as often as i could. I've been goin in & out of the country since Oct.4 and it will be going on till Nov.28. Will be missing 4-5 Boracay Rum games too in the D-League and have designated my assistant coach Estong Ballesteros to take over until such time that i'll be good and ready.

BigBlue
10-15-2011, 02:06 AM
Coach, kamusta si Estong as an assistant. may future ba sya sa coaching?

ironcoach
10-15-2011, 06:12 AM
Coach, kamusta si Estong as an assistant. may future ba sya sa coaching?


For now, my assessment of him is that he's diligent and a patient & effective big man's coach. But like i said, ang kailangan lang naman ng bawat nilalang eh break. Our 1st few games in the D-League should be a good gauge to see and find out if he has it in him or not.

ironcoach
10-15-2011, 06:22 AM
Hey fellas. Today's another chapter or milestone for me in my roller-coaster life. Its my (only) son's college graduation day today and i would like to think that my life's biggest mission would have been acdomplished today. And eventhough i couldn't pull off winning a UAAP title in my lifetime (so far), this could yet prove to be the biggest achievement for me in my life. Much bigger than a basketball championship ring.

easter
10-15-2011, 06:38 AM
Congrats coach! 8) For a celebrity like you ang aga mo gumising ah for a Saturday! :)

jembengzon
10-15-2011, 07:26 AM
congrats coach! mission well done :)

reforms
10-15-2011, 07:35 AM
Great Job coach! That one's priceless :)

Nagbabasketball din ba anak mo? Nagwa-one on one ba kayo? Sino panalo? ;)

sajubeads
10-15-2011, 07:50 AM
Coach , you mentioned De Guzman of CSB as one of your player for Boracay wave , is he Mark de Guzman now of NU team b and former RP youth guard or Jericho De Guzman , the 6-11 human beanpole?


Its Jericho "Echo" de Guzman the human flagpole.


At kapag hindi siya mag-improve in the next 2-3 years, he'll become the human tadpole. ;)





Thank you Coach for giving this kid the break. With his height hopefully you can make him a serviceable bigman. Kahit ala Jason Ballesteros man lang Coach. ;D The whole Philippine country will be very thankful of you if that happens. At pag nagkaganoon, he can be your ticket to National team coaching job.

Regular Grey
10-15-2011, 07:51 AM
Congratulations Coach. Yan talaga naman ang pangarap ng mga Fathers. A very big achievement indeed.

naz-T
10-15-2011, 09:00 AM
Congrats coach sa graduation ng anak mo!!!

BedanRoar
10-15-2011, 09:43 AM
HEP HEP HOORAY!!!....I know the feeling ;) ;

LION
10-15-2011, 11:42 AM
Congratulations, ironcoach! You've done your duty as a father, a single father at that. CHEERS!!!

ironcoach
10-15-2011, 05:54 PM
To Lion, easter, jembengzon, reforms, sajubeads,Regular Grey, naz-T & BedanRoar, from the bottom of my heart, i would like to thank each & everyone of you for your kindness, and your greetings. And on behalf of my son and my whole family, thank you very much. I really appreciate it.

BedanRoar
10-15-2011, 06:38 PM
To Lion, easter, jembengzon, reforms, sajubeads,Regular Grey, naz-T & BedanRoar, from the bottom of my heart, i would like to thank each & everyone of you for your kindness, and your greetings. And on behalf of my son and my whole family, thank you very much. I really appreciate it.


Your welcome Coach...Ang Sarap ng feeling noh? Anyway, hindi pa tapos responsibility mo dyan, aambush pa rin ng pera yan! ;D ;D ;D

Next assignment, Help him find a job ???

easter
10-15-2011, 06:48 PM
You are welcome coach! Bago tayo mag-sports cry dito sa gameface... balik tayo sa basketball opinions mo. 2 questions:

1. Sino sa tingin mo ang top 3 coaches ngayon sa Pilipinas (Whether pro or amateurs)?

2. Coach bakit naman wala kang player na kapwa ko atenista? Maaga naman natapos ang UAAP para kay Austria at Monfort. Sina Jai Reyes, Ford Arao at Jumbo Escueta eh maglalaro naman pala sa D-League sa ibang teams nga lang ata. Di mo ba trip mga laro nila?

Again Coach God Bless to your son as he hunts for a job!

ironcoach
10-15-2011, 07:09 PM
To Lion, easter, jembengzon, reforms, sajubeads,Regular Grey, naz-T & BedanRoar, from the bottom of my heart, i would like to thank each & everyone of you for your kindness, and your greetings. And on behalf of my son and my whole family, thank you very much. I really appreciate it.


Your welcome Coach...Ang Sarap ng feeling noh? Anyway, hindi pa tapos responsibility mo dyan, aambush pa rin ng pera yan! ;D ;D ;D

Next assignment, Help him find a job ???


He wanted to be the team manager of my D-League team. ;) Hmm...why not diba? If other coaches can hire their sons as players, why can't i hire my own son to be our team manager?? Parang Joaqui & Luigi Trillo tandem lang although in our case, reversal of roles lang. Yung anak ang manager tapos ying erpats ang mina-manage. ;)

ironcoach
10-15-2011, 07:41 PM
You are welcome coach! Bago tayo mag-sports cry dito sa gameface... balik tayo sa basketball opinions mo. 2 questions:

1. Sino sa tingin mo ang top 3 coaches ngayon sa Pilipinas (Whether pro or amateurs)?

2. Coach bakit naman wala kang player na kapwa ko atenista? Maaga naman natapos ang UAAP para kay Austria at Monfort. Sina Jai Reyes, Ford Arao at Jumbo Escueta eh maglalaro naman pala sa D-League sa ibang teams nga lang ata. Di mo ba trip mga laro nila?

Again Coach God Bless to your son as he hunts for a job!

Yung mga coaches naman dito sa atin may kaniya-kaniyang kakayahan, kanya-kanyang diskarte, prinsipyo at basa ng laro. Merong aral, merong idina-daan sa experience being former players, merong magaling mag-train ng skills, meton ding magaling mag-motivate, may magaling sumilip ng talent at meron ding magaling mag-develop ng raw talents. Siguro para sa akin ang magagaling na coaches eh yung mga may buwenas. Swertihan din lang naman yan eh. Subukan kaya ni Phil Jackson i-coach ang UP at UPHR at ewan ko lang kundi ma-buwang yon.

It could be a foolish question to answer and baka mag-mistulang pang-showbiz o popularity contest lang yan kung sasagutin ko pa.
Kahit si Toroman pa hindi rin glaring na nakaka-angat over sa mga Pinoy coaches dito. Nagkaron siya ng Douthit thanks to a Congressional bill kaya may Doubt din para sa akin ang na-achieve niya. Yung effort at sacrifices ng Gilas management at team members eh hinahangaan at sina-saludo ko. Hindi biro yung nagastos nila for National interest kaya that alone deserves our appreciation.

About getting Ateneo players, Jai, for one played for me in the PBL. Magnum also played for me once upon a time. Siguro medyo in-demand lang masyado ang mga Ateneo players or naka-commit na sa national team or 1 of the MVP teams kaya inuunahan ko nalang na huwag ng aksayahin pa ang panahon ko. Dun nalang ako sa mga lumalapit sa akin kesa dun sa mga hahabulin ko pa. Im too old for this shit! ;)