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BedanRoar
07-29-2010, 08:20 PM
Let's face it. Basketball is the most popular sport in our Archipelago! Other Countries like USA, Japan..Baseball. Half of the world is Soccer. But, when it comes to Basketball.....Iba ang enthusiasm ng Filipinos (Memories, Analysis, Rivalries, Talents...Etc, etc,etc)! Maraming matalino sa Basketball dito.

easter
07-30-2010, 07:18 AM
Filipinos tend to support a sport whenever someone excels in it in the international arena.

Boxing and Basketball were the first 2 sports that the Filipinos found themselves in the global picture from the 1930s to the 1960s. Boxing is still out there and in its golden age. Billiards is up there as well due to the sucess of Efren Bata Reyes. Bowling was there as well for a short time due to Paeng and Bong Coo. Although our basketball achievements abroad have declined it continues to be a favorite sport of Filipinos maybe because just like boxing and billiards, it is cheap and easy to play.

BedanRoar
07-30-2010, 07:34 AM
Filipinos tend to support a sport whenever someone excels in it in the international arena.

Boxing and Basketball were the first 2 sports that the Filipinos found themselves in the global picture from the 1930s to the 1960s. Boxing is still out there and in its golden age. Billiards is up there as well due to the sucess of Efren Bata Reyes. Bowling was there as well for a short time due to Paeng and Bong Coo. Although our basketball achievements abroad have declined it continues to be a favorite sport of Filipinos maybe because just like boxing and billiards, it is cheap and easy to play.


Sabagay, except for bowling. All the sports you mentioned are accesible to everyone.

Schortsanitis
08-05-2010, 06:40 PM
Because of "Colony Mental". LOL

We love the Americans, despite us being a colony by them, because they educated us, established a democractic form of government, etc. In other words, they didn't just conquer us, they tried to help us out, too.

This is in contrast with the Spaniards, who stayed here for 3 centuries (the Americans stayed for only about four decades), but just took and took, and never gave anything back.

Now the Americans doesn't really like anything much related to their former masters, the English. Its a pride sort of thing, like we're better than them, we're different than them ...

And Soccer as we know it is an English sport. while BASKETBALL is an American invention (i.e., Naismith was Canadian, but founded Basketball in the US). So it was natural for the Yanks to preach Basketball to us, but ignore Football.

Hence you now have the strange sight of short Flips obssessed with a sport that doesn't love them back. As soon as the taller countries like Iran, China and Lebanon started to go crazy about the sport, we ended up lower in the Asian Games level ranking.

Kid Cubao
08-05-2010, 07:36 PM
basketball is where the money is, as far as philippine sports is concerned. there are greater opportunities when you pursue high school basketball than in high school volleyball or any other sport especially for males. if you're good then you can position yourself for a college scholarship, and if you're really good, you draw fame, media attention, and fandom.

bchoter
08-05-2010, 10:41 PM
individually, why do we love the game? is it because of foreign influence?

personally, i learned to love the game for what it is and not because of any other outside influence like colonial mentality, commercialism, etc. i actually played football first then learned to play volleyball before i got into basketball. compared to other sports, there are more moves that can be executed in basketball. for example, you can dribble in different ways, between the legs, behind the back, cross-over. the same is true with shooting the ball. even laying the ball in can be done different ways. an player can retain his individuality without sacrificing teamwork. there are more to like in basketball. the team mechanics... one can liken it to interaction between persons in real life or in work environment... which i do not have the time to elaborate :D. bottom line is, i, personally, was not influenced by our american counterparts nor was i influenced by tv or media.

commercialism definitely helped the sport become as popular as it is today in the country. without money, there will be no pay-for-play leagues. without the pba, it is futile to pursue basketball as a career.

Schortsanitis
08-06-2010, 11:17 AM
'Sinapian tayo, kaya na inlab sa basketbol.' LOL

nnahoj
08-06-2010, 11:55 PM
palaklakin natin yung mga bata ngayon nga cherifer para tumangkad yung susunod na henerasyon.

Schortsanitis
08-07-2010, 10:27 AM
Filipino kids are getting taller every generation.

Just not fast enough. 'Pa konti-konti, like pa patak-patak.'

BedanRoar
09-06-2010, 11:55 AM
Collegiate League's like the NCAA and the UAAP must have started our love for Basketball ??? Dumami na liga all around the archipelago after this.

danny
09-09-2010, 03:44 AM
Because it's a foreign sport? ;)

mangtsito
09-09-2010, 06:23 AM
I'd chalk it up to these criteria, all of which are present in basketball:

1. Fast pace (and thus faster scoring);
- As an audience, we want to see results right away. We don't want 5 minutes passing by without any change happening in the score board (e.g. football).... or watch a game without any scoreboard at all for that matter (e.g. chess).

2. Opportunity for adverse physical contact
- We want blood! ;D To our minds, this is one valid way of putting one over the opponent. This is why despite rough tactics being against the rules, and despite our public protestations of anger against the rough players of opposing teams, we treat the rough players of the team we support with some fondness. Glorify them even. Fights that break out during games make it more memorable, whether we like it or not.

3. Opportunity for flashy individual athleticism
- Maybe not in this forum, (where a lot of you know the technical aspects of the game) but most Filipino fans don't give a crap about good teamwork. It's easier to spot an excellent individual player than to spot an excellent play devised by the coach. We want idols not ideas. In this sense, we are all fangirls. :D

bchoter
09-10-2010, 01:34 AM
^Totally agree. It really is a spectator sport. Football is just to dragged out for casual fans. A boxer can't fight too often. It's just plain boring to watch two ordinary tennisters whak the ball 3-4 times and then the ball goes out of bounds due to an unforced error. If you dont like baseball then you hate batters who cant hit the ball even if it is because of excellent pitching.

danny
09-10-2010, 04:58 AM
basketball is where the money is, as far as philippine sports is concerned. there are greater opportunities when you pursue high school basketball than in high school volleyball or any other sport especially for males. if you're good then you can position yourself for a college scholarship, and if you're really good, you draw fame, media attention, and fandom.



This is the fundamental reason why this IMPORTED game of basketball is popular in the country. The money. If there is money to be made in soccer, then the IMPORTED game of soccer will be as popular as this IMPORTED game of basketball. ;)

easter
09-10-2010, 07:21 AM
I don't get the imported thing. Halos lahat ng malalaro ng Pinoy ay imported, Soccer, boxing and yes even sepak takraw is from Malaysia!

Baka pwede nating laruin ay arnis and yo-yo lang.

danny
09-12-2010, 12:02 AM
I don't get the imported thing. Halos lahat ng malalaro ng Pinoy ay imported, Soccer, boxing and yes even sepak takraw is from Malaysia!

Baka pwede nating laruin ay arnis and yo-yo lang.


Tol, joke yun. Para sa ka kosa kong si Billy Esposo. ;)

easter
09-13-2010, 06:01 PM
I don't get the imported thing. Halos lahat ng malalaro ng Pinoy ay imported, Soccer, boxing and yes even sepak takraw is from Malaysia!

Baka pwede nating laruin ay arnis and yo-yo lang.


Tol, joke yun. Para sa ka kosa kong si Billy Esposo. ;)


Sir I know you and I understand the irony in your post so this one is not directed at you. 8)

danny
09-14-2010, 09:08 AM
^^^

Yikes. Sorry, kulang na kasi ako sa tulog. :)

oca
09-14-2010, 01:48 PM
I attribute to TV the emergence of basketball as the number 1 sport in the country. That when TV started intruding the sanctity of our households, basketball was the most viable sporting event the local networks can carry.

It needs no detailing how TV friendly basketball is. It has enough "stops" during the game that will allow the insertion of ads. You can insert as many ads as you can within these "gaps" without actually disrupting the flow of the game.

It has been proven that if an event is carried on this medium, it can create an awareness which if maintained and manipulated well can make the event self sustaining over the long run. Classic and current example is the Shakeys Womens V-League. It started about 6 or 7 years ago. From the get-go, the event had tv coverage. Just like basketball, this sport has enough opportunities for the loading of paid ads without disrupting the game. Aside from the basketball events currently enjoying TV coverage, V-League is the only other local sporting event that has the popularity and following not unlike basketball.

College or varsity volleyball at both the UAAP and NCAA are both having tv coverage from game 1 of the eliminations beginning this season. I think that is enough testament on how "tv friendliness" can alter the fate of a sport.

In terms of this "tv friendliness", can the same be said of football?

Baseball? Some would say, "Yes." There are enough "gaps" in this game to load commercials. But I say, "No.". Why?

Baseball is a "timeless sport". You don't have a game clock in baseball. A game can last 2, 3, 4 hours or even more to complete. Yes, there are enough stops during the game to load ads, but it is not viable with respect to the programming of the network when you do not know what time the game will end. That this game is widely covered in the US is an anomaly that is justified by the history of the game vis-a-vis the history of the country that invented it.

Clearly, basketball is a ballgame that is tv friendly, and TV as a medium has the reach, scope and visual impact other mediums do not have.

I don't believe that "the game itself" is the main reason it is numero uno. It is numero uno bcoz it complements the business aspect of television. Eto ang isinusubo sa atin ng commercial media. THIS IS THE FIRST REASON. THAT IS THE FIRST REASON.

All other reasons follow after the above. IMO, basketball as a main fare locally is also attributable to the 1973 ABC Championships and the birth of the PBA in 1975; I will share my opinion in another post.

But this post is about introducing the term "tv friendliness". Consistent with this, give volleyball 5 or 8 more years of sustained tv coverage, soon it will have the same year-round activity like basketball----- a hardcore league like the FMC, and a multi-division event for highschool similar to the MMBL (MMBL starts on Nov 6.). But there is another validation coming our way very soon about volleyball being tv friendly and how tv friendliness can spike the popularity of a sport-- magkakaroon na nang Mens Volleyball sposored by LBC.

easter
09-14-2010, 05:20 PM
Clearly, basketball is a ballgame that is tv friendly, and TV as a medium has the reach, scope and visual impact other mediums do not have.

I don't believe that "the game itself" is the main reason it is numero uno. It is numero uno bcoz it complements the business aspect of television. Eto ang isinusubo sa atin ng commercial media. THIS IS THE FIRST REASON. THAT IS THE FIRST REASON


But if media alone is the main reason, why is it that soccer is the #1 sport in the world? Other nations especially in Europe are high on media as well.

oca
09-14-2010, 06:21 PM
Clearly, basketball is a ballgame that is tv friendly, and TV as a medium has the reach, scope and visual impact other mediums do not have.

I don't believe that "the game itself" is the main reason it is numero uno. It is numero uno bcoz it complements the business aspect of television. Eto ang isinusubo sa atin ng commercial media. THIS IS THE FIRST REASON. THAT IS THE FIRST REASON


But if media alone is the main reason, why is it that soccer is the #1 sport in the world? Other nations especially in Europe are high on media as well.


Because football was already their game before the advent of TV. Malalim na ugat nito nang dumating ang TV. The game was already there, nandun na yung crowd. Nandun na yung following. Ano mang bago ang dumating, yun ang makikibagay sa kung ano ang namamayagpag. Television had to cash in on that.

Eh, dito sa atin, when TV started to become common among households in the early 70s, anong spectator sport ang meron captive audience?

The period of the early 70s was a dark period in our country in many respects, sports including. Except for boxing, walang maibibida ang Pinoy sa palakasan. Then came the 1973 ABC Championships and the PBA 2 years later...

danny
09-16-2010, 09:10 AM
TV came when the media realized that there is money to be made in Basketball. The media is no venture capitalist. When they smell potential profit, they will invest. They gambled, it paid off.

Follow the money.

oca
09-16-2010, 12:03 PM
^

That's why I pointed out our victory in the 1973 ABC Championships.

When we regained the title, biglang nag-spike and interest sa basketball across all social and economic classes. Nagkaroon ng adulation ang mga tao sa team natin in ways not seen before. Sa mga medyo bata-bata pa, it was like Efren "Bata" Reyes winning the World 9-Ball Championship. Biglang naging cover ng magazine si Bata, nagkapelikula, biglang sulputan ang mga bilyaran, biglang nagkaroon ng mga tournaments.

Kung pera ang nasa isip mo, makikita mong pagkakakitaan talaga. Mapa-maliit o malaking negosyante ka, pagkakakitaan mo.

Same in 1973!

Some may ask just how significant that title was then.

Prior to our hosting of the 1973 ABC, our last Asian basketball title was in the 1967 ABC (now FIBA Asia Championships). Our last Asian Games gold was in 1962. Pero di lang basketball ang sadsad. Baseball natin ay perennially 4th placer sa Asian Championship, kung minsan ay 3rd;after winning the first staging in 1954. (Sorry sa football fans, pero talagang wala ito sa bokabularyo ng Pinoy.) Sa boxing, may ilang WBC o WBA champions tayo, pero none had the charisma of a Flash Elorde who had retired in 1971.

Sa madaling salita, the country was in need and waiting for a hero. Sa panahong iyon, eto yung 1973 ABC team natin.

Imo, nataon lang na basketball itong event na ito. Kung baseball yun, imo,things may have been different now. Kahit hindi tv friendly ang baseball, it could have made inroads on tv. Take note, tv networks then were gov’t controlled. They’ll feed people what they need to remain still and uncritical of the prevailing social conditions. But again, basketball ang event na pinagwagian natin. Basketball ang binigyan ang oras sa tv at dahil nga ito ay tv friendly, madali itong i-sustain.

Basketball was making money. Soon some people became greedy. The BAP, Lito Puyat and his minions, took an authoritarian stance in overseeing the sport. They would draft players from the MICAA teams for the national team. The team would play exhibitions locally or overseas on the pre-text of goodwill or preparing for a big tournament, but without considering the interest of the MICAA. Games played by the NT and revenues derived from it-- gate receipts and tv--- the revenues goes to the BAP. Malinaw na pera para sa BAP. But that is just one side of the loaded dice.

Gaya ang nakita natin sa PBA tuwing bubuo ito ng NT, negative ang effect sa gates at revenues ng isang ongoing conference. There was a parallel to that during the period after we won in 1973 and prior to the birth of the PBA in 1975. The MICAA team owners didn’t like it. They had to speak out against the BAP. Pero may magagawa ba sila? Mga taong nagmamay-ari ng mga corporasyon na di mo basta manduhan, eto ngayon at tameme walang magawa, at minamanduhan pa ni Lito Puyat.

We all know the story, they bolted out of the “amateur clause” and went professional para lang makakawala sa poder ng BAP at ni Lito Puyat.

But regardless what may be its form – amateur or pro, it has been demonstrated how compatible basketball was, and still is, with tv.

Now comes the clincher --- cash flow for the TV network; and here’s where the PBA played a big role.

danny
09-17-2010, 06:01 AM
^^^

Prior to TV, basketball already had a huge following. It would be really nice to understand the historical development of basketball prior to the age of television. Television merely capitalized on the what was already there and helped expand the game to greater heights.


I am more inclined to believe that TV friendliness is a big factor, but not necessarily the fundamental reason. But I do agree that basketball is popular not because of the merit of the game itself, but something else.

To probe the question, we might need to start with the IMPORTATION ;) :D of the game itself and how it was introduced to the country.

Paano nga ba?

oca
09-17-2010, 06:09 AM
When locals bring in something from outside their boundaries, malinaw na importation yan.

But when an invading imperialist nation introduces something to the subjugated people, benign as a sport activity may be... ano ang tawag dun?

Derechong tanong po yan at walang kulay.

BedanRoar
09-17-2010, 09:14 AM
The Filipino Masses found an opportunity to rise and improve their lives through Basketball. It all starts from the “Larong Buko” & “larong Kalye” Game. Pure skills at walang scientific touch, this will only come in, once discovered & recruited in the Big Collegiate Leagues, and from there….PBA na.

Lalo na kung may height ka, medyo mas malaki ang pag asa mo makilala. There are a lot of Famous Cagers that came from this Scenario.

Mel
09-17-2010, 09:17 AM
I read in Rafe Bartholomew's "Pacifiic Rims" na one reason was that basketball became a unifying sort of event during the 50s and 60s
and made us patriotic especially after world war II.

It also helped that we often beat Japan and Korea in the Fiba-Asia then.

MonL
09-17-2010, 01:16 PM
I read in Rafe Bartholomew's "Pacifiic Rims" na one reason was that basketball became a unifying sort of event during the 50s and 60s
and made us patriotic especially after world war II.

It also helped that we often beat Japan and Korea in the Fiba-Asia then.


And it was a source of national sadness and shame when we were beaten or dethroned by these two as well.

danny
09-17-2010, 02:38 PM
When locals bring in something from outside their boundaries, malinaw na importation yan.

But when an invading imperialist nation introduces something to the subjugated people, benign as a sport activity may be... ano ang tawag dun?

Derechong tanong po yan at walang kulay.


Plain imperialism creating a deeply rooted colonial mentality.

danny
09-17-2010, 02:49 PM
I read in Rafe Bartholomew's "Pacifiic Rims" na one reason was that basketball became a unifying sort of event during the 50s and 60s
and made us patriotic especially after world war II.

It also helped that we often beat Japan and Korea in the Fiba-Asia then.


And it was a source of national sadness and shame when we were beaten or dethroned by these two as well.



In other words, the hero mentality is an important underlying element that truly made basketball the local favorite. Notice oca's reflection regarding the need for a unifying symbol. The pre-TV basketball was that sport. TV made it more pervasive.

If we trace it further, it was the collegiate leagues that developed the pinoy's love affair with basketball. The prime mover will probably be the best collegiate teams of the 50s. The era of the Crispulo Zamora Cup. ;D


Not the game itself, but the condition dictated the course of events in favor of this game.

danny
09-17-2010, 03:40 PM
I was about to sleep than a term popular in the Socionomics circle came to mind, HERDING.

The foundation of basketball as the primary sport has been cemented in the 50s primarily in the college hoops, the center of massive school passion and pride. Our international success made our boys a source of national pride. From secular school heroes to national celebrities. Heroes. People joined the bandwagon. We wanted to be part of this phenomenon. HERDING to be exact.

This mass psychology, the herding, was then firmly established. But just like anything in nature, it will have its ups and downs. Mass psychology is never sustainable.

Time to sleep. :)

oca
09-17-2010, 09:42 PM
I read in Rafe Bartholomew's "Pacifiic Rims" na one reason was that basketball became a unifying sort of event during the 50s and 60s
and made us patriotic especially after world war II.

It also helped that we often beat Japan and Korea in the Fiba-Asia then.


And it was a source of national sadness and shame when we were beaten or dethroned by these two as well.


But even after the defeat of the first PBA National Team coached by Jaworski, this sport remained numero uno to the Pinoy. They said that the PBA suffered from that failure to win the gold, and suffered more when succeeding PBA NTs duplicated the failure to win the gold.

The PBA may have suffered, but basketball mismo remained the main event for the public.

That's worth discussing, imo.

easter
12-08-2010, 07:51 AM
See what an international win can do for a sport? Now football is thrust into the consciousness of pinoys just because of an Azkal win over Vietnam! More of this and you will see more kids playing football here.

BedanRoar
12-09-2010, 07:42 AM
See what an international win can do for a sport? Now football is thrust into the consciousness of pinoys just because of an Azkal win over Vietnam! More of this and you will see more kids playing football here.


That would be a welcome development. Since, we've been left behind many years in this sport! ;)

oca
12-10-2010, 07:23 AM
I will be cautious in thinking or believing that this 1 win/ 2 draw performance can or will serve as a turning point in making football a mainstream sport in the Philippines. In as much as I want us to win over the Indonesians, I don't think any further positive result in this AFF Suzuki Cup will help football become a mainstream sport here in the long run or even in the mid-term.

The absence of a viable league that will allow players to make a livelihood from playing is, imo, the biggest problem.

No amount of victory by our national football team can help the full development of the sport if after college our players are reduced to becoming weekend hobbyist.

There must be a viable commercial or semi-pro league to further the development of the sport. In the formation of that league, I believe everyone can agree with this, gate receipts cannot and will not support the league. TV advertising ang bubuhay sa ligang ito. At dyan papaok uli yung binanggit kong "tv friendliness" ng isang sport para maging viable dito sa atin.

But what will motivate our football officials and corporate community to form a semi-pro league for the purpose of developing our players and improving the level of play when the Filipino diaspora has provided as with Fil-Fors to don the national colors?

This NT has 7 Fil-Fors as starters. It was even said on the air during the Studio23 broadcast of the Philippine-Myanmar match that the PFF already has a database of players with Pinoy lineage based all over Europe who can be tapped to play for the NT! Kulang na lang sabihin na makakabuo tayo ng dalawang NT na pulos Fil-Fors.

I have nothing against Fil-Fors. Pinoy din yan. Pero ang punto ko, para que magpupursige ang PFF na ipagbuti ang local football kung nariyan at marami namang half-Pinoy na makukuha?

Involvement ng mga korporasyon? Saan ilalagay at paano makikita ng mga ads nila?

easter
12-10-2010, 07:53 AM
I have nothing against Fil-Fors. Pinoy din yan. Pero ang punto ko, para que magpupursige ang PFF na ipagbuti ang local football kung nariyan at marami namang half-Pinoy na makukuha?


I disagree sir winning will actually lead to local tournaments since more Pinoys will be playing. Once more pure Pinoys get proper training and exposure then dadami din yan sa National team.

We need the Fil-fors now to be competitive in international tournaments and provide local interest in football.

bchoter
12-10-2010, 10:24 AM
Once again it shows how bandwaggoners Pinoy fans (as opposed to the enthusiasts) are. Soon as the team beat Vietnam FB and Twiitter was inundated by related posts as if they really know the significance of the win. Nag twitt lang si Karen Davila about it ang dami ng nag re-twitt. On a personal note, the win shows exactly how lowly we've sunk in international football. This is why I agree with oca to be a litle reserved about how victories could help a sport. A significant victory can ratchet up the drumming of interest further and wider than what the NSCs can do. Such is the case with Bata's world 9 ball crown to Billiards. However, unless a structure is already in place, whatever gains we've had will go down the drain as people who've made investments will stand to lose because the NSAs didn't do their job. The interest will eventually dwindle.

Fil-Fors are a two-edged. the immediate benefit is it can elevate the skills level and allow us to field a bigger line up. However, it can lead to a shallow program because these Fil-Fors allow the NSAs some level of success even without coming up with a good program. It can also demoralize local-bred Pinoys because, like it or not, Fil-Fors have distinct advantace in terms of recruitment bec their "potential" gives them an edge over known prospects.

Madaling salita, yun pa rin ang saki ng Pinoy. Mahilig maki-uso, ningas cogon, ma politika, at corrupt.

oca
12-10-2010, 05:49 PM
I have nothing against Fil-Fors. Pinoy din yan. Pero ang punto ko, para que magpupursige ang PFF na ipagbuti ang local football kung nariyan at marami namang half-Pinoy na makukuha?


I disagree sir winning will actually lead to local tournaments since more Pinoys will be playing. Once more pure Pinoys get proper training and exposure then dadami din yan sa National team.

We need the Fil-fors now to be competitive in international tournaments and provide local interest in football.


If and when a viable semi-pro league is formed in the next 3 to 5 years, with this 2010 AFF Suzuki Cup as the starting point of that timeline, then we can say that this episode was the turning point.

3 to 5 years from now, I will look back to this series of posts and see how much we have advanced in this game vis-a-vis the development of local players and elevation of the standard of play.

In the meantime, I will cheer for the Askals and pray for positive results. Lalo na ngayong offseason ang college basketball.

danny
12-11-2010, 10:29 AM
Madaling salita, yun pa rin ang saki ng Pinoy. Mahilig maki-uso, ningas cogon, ma politika, at corrupt.


True. Which is basically consistent with our position in the world in all aspects. Be it economic, social, educational or political. We are a society of trend followers rather than innovators...as of the moment.

pepman
01-06-2011, 02:33 AM
Siguro yung hinahanap ng Pinoy na sport na pang-all season at weather-friendly (Tropical tayo ha), eto yung kanilang sagot.

BedanRoar
06-30-2011, 09:09 AM
Maraming usage din ang Basketball Court. Fiesta, Party, Parking, Pang bilad ng palay.... ;D ;D ;D

maroonmartian
06-30-2011, 02:08 PM
Maraming usage din ang Basketball Court. Fiesta, Party, Parking, Pang bilad ng palay.... ;D ;D ;D


At pwede volleyball at badminton court ito. Pero multifunctional. At diya siya magastos na itayo.

Pero I would disagree that all Filipinos think basketball is the No. 1. Sa Masbate daw (acc to a friend), marami pick up football games dun.

Going back to the question why it is number one? History and media coverage.