View Full Version : The Show Time Thread: All About the Los Angeles Lakers

Toto Battung
10-31-2009, 02:48 AM
The Los Angeles Lakers are a team with lots of fans and lots who wants them to fail. Can't blame both sides,
because the team is high-strung on drama. Now is your time to put your thoughts, share nostalgia, share
history of team, their famous and not so famous players, their coaches, their world and words. Share pictures too.
As defending NBA champions, every team wants a piece of the Lakers. It's Show Time LA LA land.

Toto Battung
10-31-2009, 03:37 AM
"One of the toughest games to play."
G Kobe Bryant, on the challenge of receiving NBA championship rings in a ceremony and then
trying to play a season opener before the Lakers beat the Clippers, 99-92.
"It's always tough to play games after those kind of ceremonies.
You're not ready to step up and march to the tune of this season right yet."
Lakers coach Phil Jackson, who collected his 10th NBA championship ring. 10-27-09

Toto Battung
10-31-2009, 08:04 AM
Fans wants facts. Facts they did'nt know about. Did you know:
The Los Angeles Lakers need 30 victories to become the first franchise
(Minneapolis and Los Angeles) in NBA history to win 3,000 games.
* Kobe Bryant needs 1,180 points to reach 25,000

09-19-2011, 11:47 PM
It's now official. Ronald William "Ron" Artest is now Metta World Peace after a court in California granted his petition. Metta is a Buddhist term for loving kindness or compassion. But still, I will remember him as the guy who attacked a fan at the Palace in Detroit. And his name is not memorable. WORLD B. FREE is still my favorite.

12-09-2011, 08:28 AM
The blockbuster trade for Chris Paul was not approved, so it looks like the Lakers have to find another superstar instead.

12-10-2011, 12:47 PM
^what a crock. they disapproved this yet they approved kwame brown for pau gasol?

12-21-2011, 03:17 PM
i had to see it to believe it. the jersey really says WORLD PEACE. i'm not a lakers fan but i'll definitely buy that jersey or shirt.


10-28-2012, 09:22 PM
Im into belief that this current Lakers' line-up will not came close in winning a championship, not that Dwight Howard can't be Shaq, but the wear and tear on Kobe Bryant now in his mid 30s, he's planning to retire after the 2013-2014 NBA season, so that means Howard will have only two seasons to teamed up with Kobe and win a title.

10-29-2012, 08:03 AM
I am a Lakers fan and I think this team is deeper than the 2000 team. . . and I hope that we get this championship ring this year. :)

Sam Miguel
06-03-2013, 11:14 AM
'Wait till next year' takes on more meaning for Lakers, and the NBA

LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Carmelo Anthony are among potential high-end free agents in summer of 2014, as well as old-timers Kobe Bryant and Pau Gasol. So if it's quiet this summer, just wait.

By Mike Bresnahan

May 29, 2013, 5:00 a.m.

There will be plenty of free-agent shopping by teams in the NBA this summer, with movement possibly including Chris Paul and Dwight Howard.

Let's face it, though. The summer of 2014 is when the NBA can really be shaken up.

There are too many potential high-end free agents to count next year, plus one of the most appetizing draft classes in a long time, led by Canadian high-school phenom Andrew Wiggins, who last week declared himself a one-year rental for Kansas.

For starters, LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh could put an end to their days together in Miami, with all three able to terminate their contracts after next season.

Carmelo Anthony could also join them in free agency next year, as well as Zach Randolph, Andre Iguodala and Rudy Gay.

In addition, old-timers Kobe Bryant, Dirk Nowitzki, Pau Gasol and Kevin Garnett are free to go wherever they want on July 1, 2014.

If it's up-and-comers you need, John Wall, Paul George, DeMarcus Cousins and Greg Monroe will be restricted free agents.

Still want more names? Luol Deng, Andrew Bogut, Kyle Lowry, Danny Granger and Marcin Gortat will be unrestricted free agents. Monta Ellis can join the crowd if he exercises an $11-million player option for next season, making him a free agent in 2014.

"Certain summers are league-changing and this summer doesn't appear to be one," said Steve Kerr, a TNT analyst providing color commentary for the Eastern Conference finals, which continue Thursday. "Next summer will be interesting, especially if the three Miami guys opt out. Teams that have a lot of cap space this summer, they might not spend it."

All of this is without even considering the upcoming draft.

Kentucky center Nerlens Noel will probably be the top pick in the NBA draft next month — Cleveland holds the No. 1 spot. He didn't finish his college season because of a torn knee ligament and might not even be able to play until December, which says a lot for what is shaping up as one of the weakest drafts in years.

Next year, however, will be Wiggins' time. The 6-7 forward is being called the top prospect since James and he will potentially be joined in the draft by Duke signee Jabari Parker, Michigan swingman Glenn Robinson III and a string of good young Kentucky players (as usual).

Teams that don't have a solid pick next year can still change their fortunes in one off-season.

Boston went from the NBA's second-worst record to winning the championship after acquiring Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen in summer 2007. Miami went from being a first-round knockout in the 2010 playoffs to consecutive NBA Finals appearances, with a title last year and a good chance to repeat in a few weeks.

With so many big names potentially heading for free agency in 2014, "you could see a dramatic power shift in talent," said Kurt Rambis, an analyst for ESPN and Time Warner Cable SportsNet.

"You could go from Eastern Conference power to Western Conference or vice versa. Some of these are hypotheticals, but it could all change real quick."

The Lakers will be only watchers this off-season, hoping to re-sign Howard and then forced to choose between waiving Pau Gasol or Metta World Peace via the one-time amnesty provision. Adding to their summer of pain — their first-round draft pick (19th overall) goes to Cleveland because of last season's Ramon Sessions trade.

Next year, though, they go from languid to lively.

The Lakers will have a first-round pick for the first time since 2007, and they'll also have plenty of free-agent money. Their only player under contract right now for 2014-15 is Steve Nash ($9.7 million).

If Howard bolts in July and Bryant retires after next season, the Lakers in 2014 will have enough purchasing power for two max-contract free agents and a third making pretty good money.

Even if Howard returns, the Lakers will have an estimated $30 million to spend toward 2014-15, which gets them a max-contract player and another very good one.

The exact amount of their spending money depends slightly on the to-be-determined salary cap for 2014-15, but early estimates for next season are $60 million, up from $58 million. Maybe 2014-15 goes up a bit further to about $62 million. More power to the Lakers, who will keep paying the NBA's punitive luxury taxes as the league tries to put added pressure on big-spending teams.

"It's the Lakers. It's what they've always done," Kerr said. "They've been very careful to preserve that money [for] next summer. I'd be shocked if they took on any real money this summer."

And, hey, if the Lakers don't get what they want next year, three lesser, but familiar, names will be free agents in 2014: Sessions, Kwame Brown and Trevor Ariza.

The Clippers, by the way, don't shape up as major players next year … unless the unthinkable happens and Paul goes elsewhere this summer.

If that's the case, they'll have a little more than $25 million to spend in July 2014 after earmarking $17.6 million for Blake Griffin in 2014-15 and $11.4 million for the regressing DeAndre Jordan. They will also owe Jamal Crawford $5.5 million for 2014-15 and must figure out what to do with Eric Bledsoe, who will be a restricted free agent.

If Paul comes back this summer, though, the Clippers will be right at the salary cap next summer and non-players in the free-agency derby. Either way, the Clippers' situation is not as clear-cut as the Lakers'.

That's all more than a year away. At least one person's happy about this off-season, though.

"We're excited to have the top pick," Cleveland Coach Mike Brown said. "It's great for the city. It's great for the franchise."

Sam Miguel
06-03-2013, 11:15 AM
Heat faltering may leave Lakers in position to lure LeBron James

By Eric Pincus

June 2, 2013, 3:12 p.m.

The Lakers don't have to say it and can't under the rules, but they've got to be pulling for the Indiana Pacers to beat the Miami Heat in the Eastern Conference finals. They'd probably even root for the San Antonio Spurs to win the title if that means the Heat loses in the NBA Finals.

The reason, of course, would be a shot at future free agent LeBron James.

If James wins his second title in as many years, he might be more likely to stick around in Miami for the duration of his career. The All-Star forward can opt out of the final two years of his contract after next season, making him a potential unrestricted free agent in 2014.

Should the Heat lose, with diminished performances from Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh, James might consider a change. Wade and Bosh are set to earn more than $60 million apiece over the next three seasons, although they too possess similar contract options as James.

The Lakers have managed their salaries so that only Steve Nash is under contract at $9.7 million for the 2014-15 season. That can shrink to a completely empty roster if the Lakers implement the stretch provision to cut Nash -- reducing his cap hit in 2014 to only $3.2 million.

Some Lakers fans are not fond of James, given their loyalty to Kobe Bryant, but the team has to think about the future. While Bryant has vowed to return to form after surgery to repair his torn left Achilles' tendon, he has also hinted that he's not too far from retirement.

Why wouldn't the Lakers go after the best player in the league in James -- a four-time most valuable player -- especially if Bryant is retiring?

The NBA recently gave teams a projection of $58.5 million for next season's salary cap and $62.1 million for the summer of 2014.

The Lakers are waiting for the decision of center Dwight Howard, who will hit free agency in July. If he re-signs, he could make up to $22.05 million for the 2014-15 season.

If the Lakers kept Howard but shed every free agent, including Bryant, Nash and even their 2014 first-round draft selection, they'd have approximately $31.2 million in cap space. (Note that the league includes an empty roster charge on a team's cap for open spots up to 12 players, $507,336 each in 2014.)

James would be eligible for a deal starting at $20 million, leaving the team with about $11.7 million in space to keep shopping. With that, the Lakers would still have the ability to sign a high-level free agent to join Howard and James.

Once the Lakers go over the cap, they gain the new room exception worth $2.7 million, which can be used to attract a solid role player.

It might be pie-in-the-sky thinking, but then chasing after Shaquille O'Neal, Pau Gasol, Howard and Nash in many ways seemed fanciful at the time.

There's no guarantee James opts out after next season. There's no guarantee he chooses the Lakers if he does. There's no guarantee Howard re-signs this summer. The Lakers can only manage their books in preparation for an opportunity that might never come.

Nonetheless, if all the pieces were to fall into place, the Lakers would have a team with two superstars, a third, high-level player and a solid veteran. The rest of the roster would be filled with players on minimum contracts.

Should Howard leave, James could still sign for $20 million and the Lakers would still have up to $33.3 million in cap room to build around him, if they completely maximize their space.

Currently the Lakers are hampered by significant luxury taxes. If they keep the core of the existing roster together, they may be looking at some $60 million to $80 million in taxes.

In the vision of a LeBron James 2014 summer, the Lakers would be likely to remain under the tax threshold for both the 2014-15 and 2015-16 seasons. For 2015-16, they would gain the full mid-level and bi-annual exceptions, along with the ability to bring in players via sign and trade.

For the next three seasons after 2015-16, the Lakers would presumably drift into the tax but wouldn't qualify for the dreaded "repeater tax." They also aren't likely to end up some $30 million over the tax line (as they were for the past year).

The team would have a full five-year window, starting in 2014, to pursue championships without major financial hardship.

Additionally, the owners and players' union can opt out of the current collective bargaining agreement in 2017, which might once again change the economic landscape of the NBA.

As the Lakers stand today, they have very limited options to improve until 2014. If Howard re-signs, the team might feel the need to deal Pau Gasol to reduce their tax burden.

Should Howard depart, Gasol is far more likely to finish the last year on his contract with the Lakers as the team's center.

While the Lakers might like to vow sweeping changes to Howard if they could, to sway him to stay, they would want to avoid making empty promises.

Next season may be a challenge, even if Howard returns, depending on how quickly and successfully Bryant returns from injury. Any Gasol trade is wholly dependent on at least one of the 29 other teams in the league to make a deal that works for the Lakers.

There's always a chance they land major impact talent immediately for Gasol, but that may be a stretch given his age and impending free agency (also in 2014). Then again, General Manager Mitch Kupchak was able to spin Kwame Brown (and second-round draft pick/future All-Star Marc Gasol) into Pau Gasol.

Anything may be possible but the team can offer Howard only their brand, track record and ask for his trust.

Championship teams are rarely built in one off-season (although the Boston Celtics accomplished it not too long ago). Waiting for James may be the path the Lakers walk instead of taking a stab at further mediocrity.

James could just as easily stay in Miami, re-sign with the Cleveland Cavaliers or end up with another team making the chase.

The Lakers are at a clear crossroads, but there's not a lot else to be done on June 3 other than pull for the upstart Indiana Pacers.