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gameface_one
06-06-2009, 11:37 AM
Just got the article from the Philstar:

Aquino gets P20,000 fine for outburst
Updated June 06, 2009 12:00 AM


MANILA, Philippines – PBA commissioner Renauld “Sonny” Barrios said yesterday he believed Marlou Aquino did not physically harm the fan he confronted Friday at the Araneta Coliseum.

Still, the commissioner fined the Sta. Lucia Realty center P20,000 for his “emotional outburst” that took place shortly after the Realtors lost to the Burger King Whoppers in Game 2 of their Motolite PBA Fiesta Conference quarterfinal series.

Barrios met with Aquino yesterday afternoon to hear his side on the incident wherein a fan was reportedly hurt.

Aquino was accompanied by team manager Ariel Magno.

“From my end, I have concluded there was no physical contact from Marlou. But with his confrontation a melee broke out wherein a fan received blows from Sta. Lucia supporters,” said Barrios.

The commissioner also told Aquino to keep his emotions in check even in the most trying of times, especially in relation to acts against paying fans – the lifeblood of the league.

At the same time, Barrios also issued a plea to PBA fans to avoid making unsavory remarks to players and game officials, whose family could be around watching the games.





What gives? Is the penalty fair or should we impose heavier fines like a suspension?

Joescoundrel
06-06-2009, 12:24 PM
Players fighting with other players, that's Ok.

Fans fighting with other fans, that's Ok.

Players fighting with fans, as a general rule that to me is also Ok.

Here's what all this boils down to: there is only so much any person can reasonably take, even a professional athlete. If you are one of those types of players that just goes out there and plays, no theatrics, no bullshit, no trash talk, no second motions, and there are fans that taunt, heckle, curse or even threaten you, you should have every right to confront those bastards and take a fist to their faces.

If there are anti-trash talk and anti-taunting rules in basketball now, then the same should apply to the fans in the stands. These rules were instituted to prevent fights, brawls and other untoward incidences that add absolutely nothing to the game.

The game does not need to be sterile mind you, whether on the floor or in the stands, but surely it does not have to come down to fans taunting, heckling, cursing and threatening players. That player is someone's son, brother, significant other, father or friend, and he just happens to be doing a job playing basketball for one side. How would you feel if someone went to your son, brother, significant other, father or friend in their office or school, then taunted, heckled, cursed or threatened them while they were doing their job or work.

That is why if I had my way I would BAN all those paid fag animals that go to all the PBL and PBA games just to taunt and curse the players, ditto any of those other mercenary hecklers that somehow get Patron tickets to PBA games. Or I would circulate a memo to all PBA and PBL teams ALLOWING players to go after those a--holes and beating the living bejeezus out of them. I would even go so far as to provide legal counsel to players who do so. Those who inflict the most harm will also get big rewards equivalent to three months' pay. Let's see if any one ever heckles another player again.

HOWEVER, if a player is himself a known a--hole, then he deserves exactly what he has coming to him. I'm talking about guys who are known trash talkers, taunters, second-motion specialists, or those whose main role is to inflict mayhem. Just like that Bernzon Franco (?) who pulled a sahod on Rich Alvarez going for a dunk several years ago in a Champions League game. That guy deserved to have a lynch mob on him. Players who end the careers of fellow players get no sympathy from me. If that is how they want to play then they better be ready to get it. As the saying goes: if you can't take it then don't dish it.

Same thing on the fans side. In one HAIL game several years back I pointed and cursed at both Bon Custodio and Mark Borboran for their stuck-out elbows and sahod tactics against JC Intal, Macky Escalona and Doug Kramer. That was at EAC Gym and it was a small space where these guys would know right away who you were. I could care less. I was ready to take it if these guys were to come after me outside. I may not beat them in a straight fight but then again that's why they invented sidearms.

The point is: unlike other hecklers and taunters, I got in those guys' faces ready to take it if they came after me. Most other folks taunt and heckle and curse then slink away and hide lest the objects of their bile decide to take them on. These are the kinds of people that players ought to be allowed to beat into pulp.

bchoter
06-07-2009, 07:37 PM
In one UST game, a fan of the other school was not content in shouting invectives at Anthony Espiritu. After flipping the bird, the guy made a neck-slashing motion at Anthony. Little did he know that Espiritu's older brother Alwyn and their dad were two rows behind where this "brave" guy. When Alwyn confronted the guy he went pale as if death was upon him. Come to think of it, if the elder Espiritu did not prevail upon his son, death would have really come to take this "brave" guy. The Espiritus just moved to another part of the coliseum after giving a piece of their mind to the suddenly meek guy. After the Espiritus left, that guy was muttering to himself, "Why don;t you pick a guy your size" or something like that.

5FootCarrot
07-06-2009, 09:18 AM
HOWEVER, if a player is himself a known a--hole, then he deserves exactly what he has coming to him. I'm talking about guys who are known trash talkers, taunters, second-motion specialists, or those whose main role is to inflict mayhem. Just like that Bernzon Franco (?) who pulled a sahod on Rich Alvarez going for a dunk several years ago in a Champions League game. That guy deserved to have a lynch mob on him. ...

Tito Joe, I think the guy who clipped/tried to clip Rich was Leo Gaspi.