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TellTell
02-21-2009, 07:23 PM
Whats this I hear that La Salle will not be going to Serbia for the Unigames after all and that such is due to the fact that the Philippines was not really given an assured slot to this tournament. To my understanding, as it was announced in the press when the tournament started, whoever will win this tournament will represent the Philippines in the Unigames... so if such no assurance was actually given by the Unigames Organizers, why then would the PCC organizers say that the winner will go the such tournament in Serbia?

Can any representative form the PCC organizers shed light to this?

Scout
02-23-2009, 08:50 AM
???

And I thought DLSU was assured to go to Belgrade?

what gives?

shyboy
02-25-2009, 05:37 PM
Because the tournament result was unexpected? ;)

JonarSabilano
02-25-2009, 08:14 PM
Because the tournament result was unexpected?* ;)


From nardy on the interbasket.net forums:



it is not the Unity Games .... it is the Universiade. The Universiade is often referred to in English as the World University Games or World Student Games.

it seems somebody or some people failed to do their work and was not able to submit the required entry forms to the organizers of the 2009 Belgrade Universiade Games. What puzzled me is that there is a big amount of time from the time DLSU became Champs of the PCC upto the entry form deadline last month.

It is the SBP's job to nominate the team to represent the country to the games. The thing I am seeing right now, it seems certain administrative duties by the SBP is not being done. It seems the organization is not yet that organized in dealing with other organizations both internationally and locally. This is still birth pains of a new organization .... but they really need to shape up fast or the good plans of the SBP might implode with this kind of admin or paperwork mishups.

amdgc82
02-25-2009, 09:09 PM
Because the tournament result was unexpected?* ;)


From nardy on the interbasket.net forums:



it is not the Unity Games .... it is the Universiade. The Universiade is often referred to in English as the World University Games or World Student Games.

it seems somebody or some people failed to do their work and was not able to submit the required entry forms to the organizers of the 2009 Belgrade Universiade Games. What puzzled me is that there is a big amount of time from the time DLSU became Champs of the PCC upto the entry form deadline last month.

It is the SBP's job to nominate the team to represent the country to the games. The thing I am seeing right now, it seems certain administrative duties by the SBP is not being done. It seems the organization is not yet that organized in dealing with other organizations both internationally and locally. This is still birth pains of a new organization .... but they really need to shape up fast or the good plans of the SBP might implode with this kind of admin or paperwork mishups.




In the FISU Regulations version 2007
Regulations for the 25th Universiade 2009

I. General Regulations

1.5 The following only may take part in the Universiade:
a) An association with membership of FISU: - Philippines is not a member of FISU
b) In the case of non-affiliation to FISU:
1. A country whose Olympic Committee is allowed to take part in
the Olympic Games; - Universiade is not in the calendar of events of the POC
2. A country not having an Olympic Committee recognised by the
CIO may take part in those sports for which there is a FSN of that
country which is affiliated to the appropriate FSI. The Executive
Committee will take a decision for each sport in which country
wishes to participate;

FISU - Federation Internationale du Sport Universitaire (International University Sports Federation)
Universiade and World University Championships are two different sporting events.

TellTell
02-26-2009, 10:49 AM
So what gives? The Organizers of the PCC offered something as a prize to whoever will be champions that was not really theirs to give? Was this all just a press release to make motivate big teams to join the PCC? Were we all just "scammed" and taken for a ride? .... Any insiders from the PCC Organizing Committee care to explain whats happening before we pass judgment on this issue? Last year's PCC was impressively put together with noble intentions... that is to crown one, true NATIONAL COLLEGIATE CHAMPIONS - Now this..... ANSWERS PLEASE!

Ranger
02-26-2009, 07:22 PM
Because the tournament result was unexpected?* ;)


From nardy on the interbasket.net forums:





It is the SBP's job to nominate the team to represent the country to the games. The thing I am seeing right now, it seems certain administrative duties by the SBP is not being done. It seems the organization is not yet that organized in dealing with other organizations both internationally and locally. This is still birth pains of a new organization .... but they really need to shape up fast or the good plans of the SBP might implode with this kind of admin or paperwork mishups.


Maybe it's the new leadership who is inept...

shyboy
02-26-2009, 10:58 PM
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Incentives? You were saying, Mr. Pangilinan?

glock23
02-27-2009, 05:06 PM
Be a sport Manny! ;D

GreenArrows
02-28-2009, 07:17 AM
I just read this post of Tony Atayde at www.inboundpass.com.* I am totally shocked.* Read the complete article:

courtesy of www.inboundpass.com

Will they stay or go to the Universiade?
by Tony L. Atayde

The Philippine Collegiate Champions League was supposed to have been a success. It brought together all the major collegiate teams in the country. It had a terrific final game, pitting arch rivals La Salle versus Ateneo. Everyone thought that it was the year that would be the beginning of the concept of crowning a true National Champion.

Ateneo was of course heavily favored, after it steamrolled over the competition, on the way to the finals. Even with the absence of starters Chris Tiu and Ryan Buenafe, the Blue Eagles looked formidable. A finals win would have given them a sweep of the major collegiate basketball championships.

La Salle on the other hand, had a harder time. In the semis, they had to have a late game steal and conversion to get to the finals.

In the end La Salle overwhelmed the Blue Eagles and with that, was supposed to come a slew of prizes. There was a P500,000.00 cash prize and most importantly, the right to represent the country in the 2009 Universiade Games in Belgrade.

Now it seems that a lot of what was promised before the tournament may not have come to pass. First, the La Salle team who won the championship only received P400,000.00, of which P30,000.00 was in gift certificates and P370,000.00 was in cash. The reason allegedly given for the P100,000.00 shortfall, was that it was used as prize money for the individual awards.

As I was going over the many press releases for the Philippine Collegiate Champion’s League, I saw that the amount of P500,000.00 was repeatedly heralded as the winning prize money. If the reason given was that the shortfall was used for the prizes for the individual awards, then why trumpet a prize of a half million pesos for the winner in the first place. That is a 20% shortfall or about P5,000 per member of the winning team.

The biggest prize of the PCC tournament was that the winning team will represent the Philippines in the 2009 Universiade Games in Serbia. La Salle, the PCC champion, was supposed to be that team. However, now it looks like it may not happen after all.

First, it has been rumored that the UAAP will have its opening on July 11, 2009. The Universiade basketball competition ends on July 12, 2009. Allegedly, the UAAP Board has no intentions of moving the opening date to accommodate the entry of La Salle in the Universiade. This may be because the UAAP works on a tight calendar of year-round events in different sports.

If the UAAP schedule is the issue, then it would appear that the Samahan Basketbol ng Pilipinas, of which the UAAP is a member, did not coordinate the matter with the UAAP Board before making it a part of the PCC champion team’s prize.

There are even unverified reports that it was suggested that La Salle did not have to send its top players to the Unversiade or evem that a selection of players from different schools be created for this purpose. Is that fair? If La Salle would not send their best players, then the school would be accused of abandoning the country’s interest. Sending a selection of players from different schools would take away from the integrity of a commitment made.

Furthermore, a look at the website of the Belgrade Universiade 2009, http://www.ub2009.org/dokumenta/prijave/Pa...%20Schedule.pdf (http://www.ub2009.org/dokumenta/prijave/Participation%20Forms%20Schedule.pdf"), one can see that the submission of the “Intention to Participate Form” was Oct. 1, 2008, which was way before the PCCL. Secondly, the deadline for submission of the “General Entry Form” was Jan. 1, 2009. Lastly, the deadline for what is called “Final Engagement Form” or the final list of athletes who will participate, was on February 1, 2009.

The PCC is a sanctioned tournament of the SBP. Has the SBP submitted these forms? Have they gathered all the documentations of the players? Has the SBP paid the participation fee? Lastly, did the Philippines even qualify or get invited to send a team to the Universiade? These questions have to be answered in the interest of transparency.

A commitment was made by the SBP, which is the highest basketball governing body in the Philippines. Participation in the 2009 Belgrade Universiade was used as a come-on for teams to join the league. Does the winner of the PCC now have to beg to get the prize that they won fair and square? Would the same thing have happened if a school other than La Salle would have won the PCC tournament? In the event that the SBP cannot send La Salle to the Unversiade for whatever reason, they should not send a team at all, for this will have the obvious appearance of discrimination. If SBO cannot fulfill their promise, then they should instead give La Salle the money that it allocated for the tournament and allow La Salle to decide which tournament it may choose to join.

In the event La Salle goes to the Universiade but fails to qualify for the later rounds, it will be forced to leave the games early, for them to be back in time for the UAAP opening. If that happens, expect the naysayers to climb on their soap boxes and chastise the Green Archers for abandoning the tournament.

If La Salle does not get the prize that it was promised, they will not be the loser here. It will be the PCC and the SBP who will lose. The PCC would lose all the headway they made in last year’s tournament while the SBP will lose its credibility in its ability to support good leagues such as the PCC. They will definitely not get the same response they did last year if they do not deliver on their promises.

Personally, I hope that the SBP clears this matter up and makes the necessary arrangements to deliver on their promise. The PCC is too good a tournament to be tarnished with a controversy such as this.

This shows how insincere both the PCC organizers and SBP's very own MVP were regarding DLSU's victory in the PCC in regards to the prizes PROMISED!* Remember, the PCC was touted as the one tournament that would determine the ultimate COLLEGIATE CHAMPION IN THE PHILIPPINES.* DLSU WON!* AND IS RIGHTLY THE TOP COLLEGIATE TEAM THIS SCHOOL YEAR.* But to entice participation of ALL the best collegiate teams in the country the following were PROMISED:

1. the PCC, through its head Mr. Rey Gamboa, pledged to give P500,000 to the WINNING school to be used in its athletics/scholarship programs,

2. SBP's prexy Manny V. Pangilinan PERSONALLY promised to give the WINNING team an additional P500,000 to be distributed among the team members.* (Note: The difference of P5,000 per team member may not mean much to some of you, and maybe for MVP, it may just be what he uses to tip waiters, bus boys, etc, but for our players who come from less economically endowed families than those he supports in two schools, that amount means a whole lot.)

As you know, the main personalities here are not alumni nor supporters of DLSU.* SBP's own MVP is the main financier of the two schools whom DLSU beat to win the Championship.* Thus, we can surmise that when DLSU beat both his beloved San Beda and ADMU, they may have lost any appetite to keep their committments to the PHILIPPINE COLLEGIATE CHAMPIONS - DLSU!* This was very evident in MVP's face in the pictures taken with DLSU at the awarding ceremonies.* Even the representing of the Philippines in the Universaide was a come on which DLSU used as its main objective for joining this tournament as it would give our team world class competition in preparation for the UAAP wars.* But it seems, there never was any REAL effort to ensure the PCC winner to join the Universaide games in Serbia this July.*
WHAT DECEPTION!* WHAT LIES!*

Also, this clearly shows the biases of the SBP's heiracrhy when it comes to collegiate basketball.* Due to its own head's fanatical support for his two schools, no other school can realistically expect fair treatment in any tournament where his two supported schools are involved.* That is not the fault of the two schools involved, mind you.*

I thought when the SBP was put together, Philippine basketball would get back on the right path.* Now, with this experience, it seems that we may have changed the organization, but the same old sick practices in the past are being continued at the present. New dog, old habits. At least with the BAP, when they said they would send a team to an international tournament, for the most part they DID!.* Here, it is obvious SBP is not making any earnest effort to send DLSU to the Universaide and. if they did, to make representations with the UAAP (one of the SBP's ORIGINAL members), regarding NOT the UAAP entire schedule, but the schedule of DLSU's first two games, AT MOST!

I am totally, disappointed with both the PCC tournament proponents and the SBP, specially since they seem to have shortchanged DLSU for winning the PCC.* I wonder if these would have happend had San Beda or ADMU won?* For our part, we supported the PCC all the way, even cajoling our community to watch the games.* With all these happening to DLSU, I don't think we will support the PCC again, unless they make good their PROMISES.*

Oh well, I guess that is the road the SBP chooses and wants to take.* Sad...... truly sad.

Nike Air
02-28-2009, 07:44 AM
let's see kung ano isasagot dyan ni noli eala. malamang siya naman magsasalita dyan e.

nakakalungkot naman if they won't fulfill anything sa mga pinangako nila for dlsu.

will they also do the same kung san beda or ateneo nanalo sa pccl last year?

parang may bahid na naman ito ng monkey business e.

antayin natin sagot ng sbp sa issue na ito.

joelex
02-28-2009, 11:49 AM
somewhere, the BAP is smiling and thinking.."i told you so.."

forget about factions here. Its all about personal interests.

shyboy
02-28-2009, 02:38 PM
Gawin mo kung anong sinabi mo. Magpaka-lalaki ka! ;D

sharky
02-28-2009, 04:10 PM
Looks like Noli Eala is still angry at Franz for leaving the RP youth after they fail to qualify for the semi finals.

But still the SBP should have done its job in nominating La Salle to the Universiade Games to make them more credible. I hope that SBP will not turn into another BAP.

1979
03-01-2009, 09:02 AM
tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk >:(

Scout
03-01-2009, 09:10 AM
SBP: do not make promises you can't keep! Sheesh! The nerve.

Noli Eala is the consummate wash up you gave a new lease on life to! ::)

batangueño
03-01-2009, 10:06 AM
It seems to me that their bitterness as to how the PCC finals ended is not yet over, as proven by them not delivering their promise of sending the Archers to Belgrade.

What if their team won the PCC title? Will they brag to the entire country that their team will be representing the Philippines at the Universiade? Will they deliver to their promise of sending their team to Serbia- something they never did to the Green Archers?

Just thinking aloud. ;)

gameface_one
03-02-2009, 05:04 PM
Find below the response from Mr. Rey Gamboa:




1. Prize Awards 2008 Philippine Collegiate Championship games:

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *For the School* * * * * * * * For Team Members/
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Others
a) DLSU (Champion)* * * * ** * * * *P500,000.00* * * * * * * * * * P400,000.00
b) ADMU* * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** * * 200,000.00* * * * * * * * * * * 200,000.00
c) Letran* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** * 100,000.00* * * * * * * * * * * 100,000.00
d) San Beda* * * * * * * * * * * * * ** * *50,000.00* * * * * * * * * * * * 50,000.00
e) Most Valuable Player
* *(J.V.Casio -DLSU)* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** * * ** * * * 25,000.00
f) Best Coach
* *(F. Pumaren –DLSU)* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** * * * * * * 15,000.00
g) Mythical 5
* * P5,000.00 each* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** * ** *25,000.00
* * * *J.V.Casio –DLSU
* * * *R.Mierhofer – DLSU
* * * R.Al-Husseini –ADMU
* * * R.J.Jazul* * * *- Letran
* * * N. Baclao* * *- ADMU
h) Best Performing Referee
* * (D. Barbacena)* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** *15,000.00
i) Individual Trophies/medals* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** * * * **20,000.00

Total Prize Awards* * ** * * * * * * * * *P850,000.00* * * * * * * P850,000.00* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Funding for Prize Awards:

a) FilOil Flying V* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *P850,000.00
b) From M.V.Pangilinan Personal Funds* * * ** * * *850,000.00
Total* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *P1,700,000.00

Above is the biggest prize awards in Philippine Collegiate competitions.

2. Universiade Games. The games are organized and managed by FISU (Federation Internationale du Sport Universitaire). The basketball event is scheduled on July 1-12 2009 and is limited in number of team participants. Based on advice of organizers, one of the criteria for selection of participants is past Universiade participation and results.

Mr. Jose Capistrano, Jr., the local contact person of FISU and SBP Board member, has been in communication with organizers regarding Philippine participation. While no confirmation is on hand as of date (March 1), there is confidence that this will be clarified within the next few days.

As per Mr. Noli Eala, SBP Executive Director, SBP has obtained sponsorship commitment to fund the participation of the 2008 Philippine Collegiate Champion, De La Salle University Green Archers, in the Universiade Games.

Bro. Oca of DLSU has been properly appraised of above in earlier meetings and letters.

REYNALDO D. GAMBOA
Chairman
Philippine Collegiate Champions League

GreenArrows
03-02-2009, 06:48 PM
Strange how gameface is the preferred venue for the reply.* Perhaps due to the 'friendly' atmosphere here. I suggest to Mr. Gamboa, Eala and the PCC and SBP to please go over ALL their press releases regarding the PCC and see that something is missing in their reply.*

To 'enlighten' everyone, the PCC has NOT release the P500,000 to DLSU as of end Feb. 2009.* I wonder why?* Look at this picture where a giant copy of the check for DLSU is given no less than by Mr. Gamboa to the team after DLSU beat ADMU for the PHILIPPINE COLLEGIATE CHAMPIONSHIP and became the UNDISPUTED COLLEGIATE CHAMPION!!! As they even said, there can only be ONE!

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/3588/70765246.jpg (http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=70765246.jpg)

Doesn't it say P500,000?* Dated December 8, 2008!!!* Mr. Gamboa even accounts for it in his reply!!!* And yet, has it been received by DLSU as of end Feb? (Hint: NO!)

Also, read the press releases of PCC and MVP.* MVP states specifically that he is contributing P500,000 for the team members of the winning team?* I didn't know it was to pay for other cash prizes!* I didn't know because nowhere in the PRESS RELEASES does it say so.* If I recall, MVP stated specifically it P500,000 was for the players of the winning team.*

I guess I read wrong.* Or...... did I?

GreenArrows
03-02-2009, 08:16 PM
For me, and this is just my own opinion, we NEED NOT publicize this issue in the public media as being pressed by some quarters.* I am sure the parties involved are now aware that this issue is active and I am sure, at least I would like to believe, that the proper measures are being made to rectify whatever shortcomings of the PCC and/or SBP.

I guess it boils down to the following:

1. Give DLSU its P500, 000 prize money for winning the crown.* IT WAS THE AMOUNT PCC SAID was the cash prize.* So be it.* Give it to the winner - DLSU.* BTW, I wonder why the other cash prizes were deducted from the P500,000 due to DLSU while the cash prizes of ADMU and San Beda REMAINED INTACT?* At the very least, they should have proportionately deducted the other cash prizes from the amounts going to ADMU and SBC.* *Just asking.

2. Give the DLSU players the remaining P100,000 that was given by MVP.* Remember, it was MVP himself who said that he was matching the cash prizes of the PCC so that the team members will also get something out of participating in the tournament and not just the school.* Nobody mentioned that only P400,000 will be given to the team wherein P30,000 were in gift cheques at that!* MVP said P500,000 was to be given to the champions team's members, so be it.* Give them the remaining P100,000.* Mr. Gamboa mentions that Br. Bernie was told about this situation.* What he fails to mention is that he told both DLSU and ADMU of this situation ONLY moments before the championship game.

3.* Give DLSU the real situation regarding the Universaide.* Will the SBP send DLSU?* Will SBP ask the UAAP to adjust the opening game of DLSU so they can compete in the SBP endrosed Universaide participation?* Or was the Universaide just a come-on for the PCC considering that the deadline for informing FISU of Philippine participation in the Universaide was back in October?* Mr. Noli Eala, please clarify.* And, if the SBP is sending DLSU to the Universaide, may we know who is or are the sponsors and in what form or amounts are the sponsorships?* We just want to know Mr. Eala.* The Universaide plays prominently to the team's preparation for the next UAAP.* So, is DLSU going or not?

I think it is only fair that the above be given prompt action.* We are not asking for anything more that what was touted in their* various press releases in the various broadsheets and as posted in gameface no less.* Fair is fair, right?* They promised and we expect them to keep their promises.* Is that too much to ask?* We are not asking for anything they did not say they would give.* So, why the delay?

The PCC was off to a rocky start but is starting to gain headway.* Let not this be an example on how they run things.* If the prize is so much, then give it immediately after the the championship game.* Not some useless piece of cardboard or styrofoam.

BE FAIR PCC/SBP!

gameface_one
03-02-2009, 08:36 PM
Strange how gameface is the preferred venue for the reply. Perhaps due to the 'friendly' atmosphere here. I suggest to Mr. Gamboa, Eala and the PCC and SBP to please go over ALL their press releases regarding the PCC and see that something is missing in their reply.*

To 'enlighten' everyone, the PCC has NOT release the P500,000 to DLSU as of end Feb. 2009.* I wonder why?* Look at this picture where a giant copy of the check for DLSU is given no less than by Mr. Gamboa to the team after DLSU beat ADMU for the PHILIPPINE COLLEGIATE CHAMPIONSHIP and became the UNDISPUTED COLLEGIATE CHAMPION!!! As they even said, there can only be ONE!

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/3588/70765246.jpg (http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=70765246.jpg)

Doesn't it say P500,000?* Dated December 8, 2008!!!* Mr. Gamboa even accounts for it in his reply!!!* And yet, has it been received by DLSU as of end Feb? (Hint: NO!)

Also, read the press releases of PCC and MVP.* MVP states specifically that he is contributing P500,000 for the players of the winning team?* I didn't know it was to pay for other cash prizes!* I didn't know because nowhere in the PRESS RELEASES does it say so.* If I recall, MVP stated specifically it P500,000 was for the players of the winning team.*

I guess I read wrong.* Or...... did I?



That's because gameface is the official on-line media partner.

GreenArrows
03-02-2009, 08:42 PM
That's great!* Then maybe gameface should be the one to lead the question why PCC's prize money has not been given to DLSU and why DLSU team members' cash prize was deducted for the other individual cash prizes while those of ADMU and SBC remained intact?

As their 'official on-line media partner', you have the right to ask your partner - the PCC - these questions? Am I right? Or you are not allowed to ask and get answers to these questions? Just asking.

GreenMind
03-02-2009, 08:46 PM
Hi guys...this is The Green Mind!

Let's be vigilant about this Universiade issue. There is still so much more that has not been written.

gameface_one
03-02-2009, 08:48 PM
That's great!* Then maybe gameface should be the one to lead the question why PCC's prize money has not been given to DLSU and why DLSU team members' cash prize was deducted for the other individual cash prizes while those of ADMU and SBC remained intact?

As their 'official on-line media partner', you have the right to ask your partner - the PCC - these questions? Am I right? Or you are not allowed to ask and get answers to these questions?* Just asking.



Which we did that's why you got their official response.

Don't worry, definitely they will give their additional feedback to your new posts above.

As the official on-line media partner, we are the official medium for information dissemination in the internet. That is basically our relationship with them.

GreenArrows
03-02-2009, 08:49 PM
Hi guys...this is The Green Mind!

Let's be vigilant about this Universiade issue.* There is still so much more that has not been written.

WOW!!! I can just imagine what these are!

gameface_one
03-02-2009, 08:50 PM
Hi guys...this is The Green Mind!

Let's be vigilant about this Universiade issue.* There is still so much more that has not been written.



Welcome to Gameface GreenMind. We look forward to more interesting and intellectual discourses with you. *:)

GreenArrows
03-02-2009, 08:50 PM
That's great!* Then maybe gameface should be the one to lead the question why PCC's prize money has not been given to DLSU and why DLSU team members' cash prize was deducted for the other individual cash prizes while those of ADMU and SBC remained intact?

As their 'official on-line media partner', you have the right to ask your partner - the PCC - these questions? Am I right? Or you are not allowed to ask and get answers to these questions?* Just asking.


Which we did that's why you got their official response. What fair is fair, right?

Don't worry, definitely they will give their additional feedback to your new posts above.

As the official on-line media partner, we are the official medium for information dissemination in the internet. That is basically our relationship with them.


That's great gameface one. *We are anxiously awaiting their reply. *What fair is fair, right? Again, it just boils down to the three issues I mentioned above

gameface_one
03-02-2009, 09:03 PM
^^^ No worries. We will post them as soon as we get them.

GreenArrows
03-02-2009, 09:09 PM
And we look forward to their replies. I just wonder if SBP's MVP is aware of this seeming poor handling of an SBP sanctioned tournament.

GreenArrows
03-03-2009, 07:19 AM
From Quinito Henson's column:

Victim of broken promises

SPORTING CHANCE By Joaquin M. Henson Updated March 03, 2009 12:00 AM

Last December, La Salle defied the odds in beating UAAP champion Ateneo, 71-62, to win the Philippine Collegiate Champions League (PCCL) title at the Araneta Coliseum. On the way to the finals, the Archers eliminated NCAA titleholder San Beda, 62-61.

For bagging the PCCL crown, the Archers were promised a P500,000 grant for scholarships and athletic facilities and the chance to represent the country at the World University Games in Belgrade, Serbia, on July 1-12. The rewards were confirmed by PCCL chairman Rey Gamboa in the league’s own website.

In a startling disclosure, La Salle insider Tony Atayde Sr. told The Star just the other day the team received only P400,000, including P25,000 in gift certificates for bakery items, instead of the P500,000 that was promised. Atayde claimed the reason for the deduction was most of the individual awards went to La Salle anyway. Franz Pumaren was named Best Coach and Jayvee Casio, MVP. Additionally, Casio and Rico Maierhofer were chosen for the Mythical First Team.

La Salle, however, didn’t complain. Despite the P100,000 deduction and the gift certificates, the cash prize was still substantial.

As for the opportunity to play in Belgrade, that remains up in the air.

There’s a meeting to decide the draws for the Universiade in Belgrade on March 19-21 and heads of delegations are supposed to attend. The deadline to submit general entry forms was last Jan. 1 and the final engagement forms last Feb. 1. The last day to confirm participation, by name, is June 1 so there’s still a chance for a late entry to be considered.

As of today, no one from La Salle has been asked to submit any application form. Apparently, nobody is coordinating the effort to send entry forms to the Universiade.

In the PCCL website, Gamboa mentioned the champion is recognized by FIBA and will be authorized to represent the country in FIBA-sanctioned competitions such as in the Universiade.

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This year’s Universiade is the 25th edition of the event that is held every two years. The calendar lists 12 compulsory sports, namely, basketball, athletics, fencing, judo, swimming, football, volleyball, table tennis, tennis, water polo, diving and gymnastics. Eligible to compete are student athletes within the age range of 17 to 28. The athletes must be enrolled in school or out of school for no more than a year.

POC spokesman Joey Romasanta said he has no knowledge of any National Sports Association sending athletes to the Universiade. He mentioned that the POC is not involved with the World University Games.

The governing body for the Universiade is the Federation Internationale du Sport Universitaire (FISU) which was founded in 1949. The POC is not a FISU affiliate.

SBP executive director Noli Eala confirmed yesterday that Smart will finance La Salle’s trip to Serbia but said the basketball organization, like the POC, has nothing to do with FISU.

“Smart has committed to take care of the expenses,” said Eala. “The problem is we don’t know who’s in charge of contacting FISU. That’s not within the SBP’s authority.”

Eala referred The Star to a person supposedly with links to FISU but he was not available for comment at presstime.

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Meanwhile, another problem of coordination has cropped up. The word is La Salle will play its first UAAP game against Ateneo on July 12.

“The last day of the Universiade is July 12 so how can La Salle be in two places at the same time?” wondered Atayde. “The UAAP host school is FEU and I don’t think they’ll agree to adjust the schedule for La Salle especially since the rumor is Chito Narvasa will be the commissioner again.”

Atayde said after last season’s controversies, he thought the UAAP Board would appoint a commissioner with no roots to any UAAP school.

Eala said the UAAP schedule is something the SBP has no control of. “That’s not an SBP matter,” he explained. “If the PCCL made a commitment to La Salle and the UAAP schedule is an obstacle to fulfilling the commitment, then maybe, the PCCL should take up the problem with the UAAP.”

Atayde said if La Salle leaves Belgrade early to arrive in Manila in time to play Ateneo, the Archers will surely be chastised for abandoning a commitment to the country. He’s right. A similar incident involving Pumaren happened last year.

“If La Salle does not get the prize that it was promised, they will not be the loser,” said Atayde. “It will be the PCCL and the SBP. The PCCL will lose all the headway they made in last year’s tournament while the SBP will lose credibility in its ability to support good leagues such as the PCCL. They will definitely not get the same response they did last year if they do not deliver on their promises.

“Personally, I hope the SBP clears the matter up and makes the necessary arrangements to deliver on the promise. The PCCL is too good a tournament to be tarnished with a controversy such as this.”

If only to preserve its image of integrity, the PCCL must do something to solve this problem immediately. It wouldn’t be proper for La Salle to make direct inquiries with the Universiade organizers because that would be self-serving. Besides, La Salle isn’t the country’s FISU affiliate.

Surely, the PCCL has links to FISU or its local affiliate – otherwise, it wouldn’t have offered the opportunity to play in the Universiade as a reward for the champion.

The clock is ticking and La Salle is running out of time to confirm its participation in Belgrade. Will the Archers be victims of another broken promise?

Quinito's column is incomplete at best. He mentions the P500,000 suppose to go to the team members but only received P400,000. Here he is also mistaken. It was P30,000 in GCs and not P25,000as he wrote. Also, how could DLSU complain when the deductions were told to both DLSU and ADMU ONLY MOMENTS BEFORE THE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME!!! How can anyone complain at that point in time?

Quinito mentions the Serbia trip and the P400,000 given to the team members. He is selective in his write-up because he makes NO MENTION of the fact that the PCC still owes DLSU the P500,000 for its cash prize for its scholarship/sports program. This is the ORIGINAL cash prize of the PCC and is suppose to come from PCC's sponsors and not from MVP! I wonder why Quinito failed to mention this portion? Was it because he does not know? Or is he turning a blind eye to this issue?

Quinito, the PCC, through its head REY GAMBOA, still has not given the ORIGINAL cash prize of P500,000 which was suppose to go to the CHAMPION SCHOOL - DLSU. Why has it not been given? Why the delay?

We just want to know.

LION
03-03-2009, 07:39 AM
For the sake of clarity and fair play, pwede po bang i-break down natin kung ano ang kasalanan nino?

Ano po ang kasalanan ng PCC?

Ano po ang kasalanan ng SBP?

Ano po ang kasalanan ni MVP?

Maybe this way, kaming mga miron e mas maiintindhihan kung ano ang totoong istorya.

a_ron
03-03-2009, 08:11 AM
SBP or BAP pareho lang sila, now i understand why the CESAFI official are favoring the Pichay group,atleast with the Pitchay group all the prices in their tournamnents is been given and the winner is being sent abroad to represent the Philippines in an Unigames..

LION
03-03-2009, 10:12 AM
For the sake of clarity and fair play, pwede po bang i-break down natin kung ano ang kasalanan nino?

Ano po ang kasalanan ng PCC?

Ano po ang kasalanan ng SBP?

Ano po ang kasalanan ni MVP?*

Maybe this way, kaming mga miron e mas maiintindhihan kung ano ang totoong istorya.



Bump ko lang po. Nag aantay ng sagot.

GreenArrows
03-03-2009, 10:19 AM
If you backread a little, here is where this all boils down to: (mods, pardon a repost of my previous entry)

1. Give DLSU its P500, 000 prize money for winning the crown.* IT WAS THE AMOUNT PCC SAID was the cash prize.* So be it.* Give it to the winner - DLSU.* BTW, I wonder why the other cash prizes were deducted from the P500,000 due to DLSU while the cash prizes of ADMU and San Beda REMAINED INTACT?* At the very least, they should have proportionately deducted the other cash prizes from the amounts going to ADMU and SBC.* *Just asking.

2. Give the DLSU players the remaining P100,000 that was given by MVP.* Remember, it was MVP himself who said that he was matching the cash prizes of the PCC so that the team members will also get something out of participating in the tournament and not just the school.* Nobody mentioned that only P400,000 will be given to the team wherein P30,000 were in gift cheques at that!* MVP said P500,000 was to be given to the champions team's members, so be it.* Give them the remaining P100,000.* Mr. Gamboa mentions that Br. Bernie was told about this situation.* What he fails to mention is that he told both DLSU and ADMU of this situation ONLY moments before the championship game.

3.* Give DLSU the real situation regarding the Universaide.* Will the SBP send DLSU?* Will SBP ask the UAAP to adjust the opening game of DLSU so they can compete in the SBP endrosed Universaide participation?* Or was the Universaide just a come-on for the PCC considering that the deadline for informing FISU of Philippine participation in the Universaide was back in October?* Mr. Noli Eala, please clarify.* And, if the SBP is sending DLSU to the Universaide, may we know who is or are the sponsors and in what form or amounts are the sponsorships?* We just want to know Mr. Eala.* The Universaide plays prominently to the team's preparation for the next UAAP.* So, is DLSU going or not?

I think it is only fair that the above be given prompt action.* We are not asking for anything more that what was touted in their* various press releases in the various broadsheets and as posted in gameface no less.* Fair is fair, right?* They promised and we expect them to keep their promises.* Is that too much to ask?* We are not asking for anything they did not say they would give.* So, why the delay?

LION
03-03-2009, 10:43 AM
^ I've read your previous posts on the matter. Your post merely stated what are the things that should be given to DLSU.

Please don't get me wrong. I just want a clearer presentation of your claims and the persons or insitutions who should be held responsible for the same.

In the previous posts, the blame was collectively put on the PCC, BSP, Noli Eala and MVP, and the names of Ateneo and San Beda were even mentioned because of their ties with MVP.

In legal parlance my friend, I am asking for a bill of particulars. If you have to accuse PCC of any wrongdoing, then specify what are these. Same thing with BSP, Noli Eala and MVP. Huwag shotgun approach, sir. Baka naman yung kasalanan ng isa e hindi kasalanan ng lahat.

Again, please take this as a friendly advise. Gusto lang namin malinaw kung ano ang kasalanan nino so that grievances can be addressed properly.

GreenArrows
03-03-2009, 11:31 AM
And that is also our point.* Just give the winner of the PCC - which was DLSU - what was promised by the organizers of this tournament.* MVP gave money prizes to the winners and these should be given completely.* There was no mention ever in their various press releases that from the money donated by MVP there would be deductions for other prizes.

Also, the PCC should also deliver its own P500,000 cash prize.* Why the delay when as the picture shows they already had a blown up picture of the check itself?

As for the Serbia trip, that is something the PCC and SBP should have worked out prior to offering it as a come on for the tournament.* Remember as the country's governing body in basketball, it is the SBP that should sanction or accredit the teams it sends abroad.* Mr. Eala has stated that Smart will pick up the expenses to sending DLSU to the Universaide.* Good.* But have the PCC and SBP made the proper representations with FISU regarding DLSU's entry?* This should have been finalized as soon as the winner of the PCC was known.

No one here is pointing the blame finger.* All that is being asked is for the prizes and committments earned by DLSU in the PCC be given in full as they stated in their press releases.* DLSU deserves to be given its rewards PROMPTLY and IN FULL, don't you agree? For why was MVP's cash prize to DLSU reduced to pay for other cash prizes when these other cash prizes should have been taken from the donation of MVP AS A WHOLE and thus the remaining funds distributed equitably to* DLSU, ADMU and SBC.* Why was it only DLSU's cash prize that was deducted?

As to who is to blame for all these, WE DON'T CARE!* That's up for Mr. Gamboa and his PCC organization to sort out.* ALL WE ASK FOR is to give DLSU its full due.* Nothing more, nothing less.*

LION
03-03-2009, 01:40 PM
And that is also our point.* Just give the winner of the PCC - which was DLSU - what was promised by the organizers of this tournament.* MVP gave money prizes to the winners and these should be given completely.* There was no mention ever in their various press releases that from the money donated by MVP there would be deductions for other prizes.

Also, the PCC should also deliver its own P500,000 cash prize.* Why the delay when as the picture shows they already had a blown up picture of the check itself?

As for the Serbia trip, that is something the PCC and SBP should have worked out prior to offering it as a come on for the tournament.* Remember as the country's governing body in basketball, it is the SBP that should sanction or accredit the teams it sends abroad.* Mr. Eala has stated that Smart will pick up the expenses to sending DLSU to the Universaide.* Good.* But have the PCC and SBP made the proper representations with FISU regarding DLSU's entry?* This should have been finalized as soon as the winner of the PCC was known.

No one here is pointing the blame finger.* All that is being asked is for the prizes and committments earned by DLSU in the PCC be given in full as they stated in their press releases.* DLSU deserves to be given its rewards PROMPTLY and IN FULL, don't you agree? For why was MVP's cash prize to DLSU reduced to pay for other cash prizes when these other cash prizes should have been taken from the donation of MVP AS A WHOLE and thus the remaining funds distributed equitably to* DLSU, ADMU and SBC.* Why was it only DLSU's cash prize that was deducted?

As to who is to blame for all these, WE DON'T CARE!* That's up for Mr. Gamboa and his PCC organization to sort out.* ALL WE ASK FOR is to give DLSU its full due.* Nothing more, nothing less.*


Thanks for that bit of clarification, sir. So it appears that MVP is not to blame because he did give what he promised to the organizer, PCC (and SBP?).

It appears that PCC and SBP should now address the issues raised by DLSU supporters and give what is due to DLSU, PROMPTLY and IN FULL.

By the way, are there no subsequent communications at all, verbal or written, among DLSU, SBP and PCC concerning the prizes since this issue was raised publicly?

In any case, I do hope that the organizers will immediately come up not only with an explanation but appropriate action as well to resolve this issue once and for all; otherwise, the PCC as a basketball organization will lose its credibility.

And, GA/sir, I can understand the show of emotion.

BedanRoar
03-03-2009, 05:06 PM
How about the past PCCL champions, did they experience this or DLSU lang talaga?

GreenArrows
03-03-2009, 05:58 PM
I don't know exactly but allow me to recall something I seem to remember. ADMU won the PCCL in 2007. They too had won a certain amount for winning the tournament.

However, sometime last summer (in 2008), I remember that during the game between DLSU and ADMU in the Fil-Oil tournament, there was an 'awarding' ceremony wherein Mr. Rey Gamboa presented a check to ADMU. I believe that it was their prize from the 2007 PCCL. Please correct me if I am wrong as I am just trying to recall from my ageing memory banks.

If the check given to ADMU in summer 08 was for having won the PCCL in November/December of 07, then this seems to be a problem exclusively by the PCC/PCCL organizers headed by Mr. Rey Gamboa. It seems MVP should direct the SBP to tell the tournaments held under its umbrella to make sure that ALL prizes for the tournaments are readily available even before the start of a tournament. Therefore, when the champions are declared, they get immediately what they are entitled to.

This is totally embarassing on the part of the PCC/PCCL. It shows total lack of organization and management skills. And to think, many schools had such high hopes that the PCC would someday evolve into a tournament similar to the U.S. NCAA tournament.

BedanRoar
03-03-2009, 07:53 PM
Well, PCCL has a big room for improvement being a new league and having a nice goal. Let's hope they can do something about this issue.

A-boy97
03-04-2009, 02:32 PM
Yung PCCL lang pala ang problema, kung sino sinong grupo at institusyon pa pinapasaringan. Tsk, tsk..

la salle should get what is due to them, no questions asked. As who is to blame, la salle SHOULD care and the rest of the community. If it's the PCC then it should be ONLY be the PCC. Anong kinalaman naman ni Mr. Pangilinan sa mga yan. Isama mo na rin ang Ateneo at San Beda, anong koneksyon sa issue. Simpleng problema, kung sino sino pang grupong wala namang kinalaman ang isinasama...

glock23
03-04-2009, 04:20 PM
Yung PCCL lang pala ang problema, kung sino sinong grupo at institusyon pa pinapasaringan. Tsk, tsk..

la salle should get what is due to them, no questions asked.* As who is to blame, la salle SHOULD care and the rest of the community.* If it's the PCC then it should be ONLY be the PCC.* Anong kinalaman naman ni Mr. Pangilinan sa mga yan.* Isama mo na rin ang Ateneo at San Beda, anong koneksyon sa issue.* Simpleng problema, kung sino sino pang grupong wala namang kinalaman ang isinasama...


You obviously haven't heard of command responsibility! :) sakit sa mata ng post mo!

Sam Miguel
03-04-2009, 07:54 PM
^^^ Calm down boys.

I join the call for the PCCL to get their collective institutional acts together and give the winner their due. I am not sure as to the protocol of awarding the actual prizes, although I will say that the recall of Green Arrows as to the awarding of the 2007 prizes is spot on. For whatever reason it seems the PCCL gives the actual prizes in ceremonies during the opening day of the tournament next following. I believe this is also the case with the Fil Oil Flying V tournament. Fil Oil Flying V will give UE its prize for winning the 2008 edition on opening day of the 2009 tournament. Maybe it has something to do with making a big to-do about the prize.

Which brings us to the SBP. This being an SBP tournament, for godsakes it ought to be run better. Lasalle has a legitimate complaint here, and indeed they should be getting their prize period. Their participation in the Universiade in Serbia should not only be clarified but should be ensured. Good Lord, I thought with the new xecutive Director we would finally get somewhere and look at what we have here, more of the same mess.

Speaking of the PCCL, this is just the culminating FUBAR in a tournament that essentially screwed over a lot of smaller schools. San Sebastian Cavite should have been allowed to use their full NAASCU lineup. I still am not happy about their inclusion of Lyceum in the wild card seeing as how Lyceum not only used commercial league players but did not even participate in any of the current tournaments that both the PCCL and the SBP themselves said were requirements for consideration even into the wild card.

I join the call to have Lasalle handed all of their prizes given forthwith and in full - money and the Universiade.

salsa caballero
03-04-2009, 08:21 PM
I second Cubao. Fair is fair...as we all know, ipinangako sa kanila.

TellTell
03-06-2009, 02:07 PM
Info from BIZLINKS (Phil Star page B5 cont on B8, March 6, an article by Mr. Rey Gamboa) In short — Gamboa said that indeed only P400,000 cash was given to La Salle. From what i remember in their press releases before, P500,000 in cash was suppose to be given… heck, even the big check awarded to the team had P500,000 written on it. So where’s the P100,000 Mr Gamboa?

Also, he wrote about the Universiade Games and to my dismay, he did confirm that La Salle’s participation is still not a certainty. According to him, a “participation deposit” was already remitted to the organizers to impress on the organizers that the Philippines was serious in sending a representative. What the f--k? So Mr Gamboa and the rest of the organizers was not really sure in the first place if they can send a representative? so why offer such prize if such was could not be given in certainty in the first place? was this prize just offered to ‘hype’ the PCC? What gives?

gameface_one
03-06-2009, 06:50 PM
From Mr. Rey Gamboa:


Below is latest update on the steps taken with regards to the participation of DLSU Green Archers to the Unversiade Games. This privilege to represent the country in the Games is one of the prizes awarded to the team by SBP for winning the 2008 Philippine Collegiate Championship.

1) The required participation deposit of $5,000.00 was remitted to the account of the Games Organizer. The expectation is that with this payment, FISU will give us priority in the final selection of participants in the basketball event which is scheduled on July 1 to 12, 2009. The organizers have limited the number of participants in several team events including basketball.

2) A letter was sent to the members of the UAAP Board formally advising them of the nomination of DLSU team to the Universiade Games and requesting for their support and endorsement.


As additional information on the 2008 games, the total amount of prize awards in the form of scholarship grants, athletic items, team and individual trophies/medals. gift items/certificates and cash received by PCCL from prize donors, FilOil Flying V, personal funds of M. V. Pangilinan, KFC, Molten, was P1,907,000.00. All of these prizes were awarded to the nine Regional Champions, and to the Top Four right after the Regional Championship games and the Finals of the Sweet 16, except for the scholarship grants from FilOil Flying V. The grants are paid directly to the school after the submission of the list of beneficiaries.


DLSU has submitted its list of beneficiaries and the check will be presented to DLSU representatives by FilOil Flying V during the opening ceremonies of the Pre-Season Tournament on April 19.

Again, by far, this is the biggest prize awards in Philippine collegiate competitions. Thanks to the support of the above-mentioned sponsors.

In addition to the above-cited prizes, corporate sponsors PLDT and SMART provided the funds for the air fare/transportation and accommodation exenses of all teams that advanced to the Regional Championship and Zonal Championship.

-END-

CrossOver
03-10-2009, 12:31 AM
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No broken promise
By Joaquin M. Henson
Updated March 10, 2009 12:00 AM

A $5,000 participation fee was recently advanced by Philippine Collegiate Champions League (PCCL) chairman Rey Gamboa for the La Salle senior varsity basketball team to represent the country at the World University Games in Belgrade, Serbia, on July 1-12.

With PLDT-Smart confirming it will foot the bill for the Green Archers’ trip and incoming UAAP president Anton Montinola of FEU proposing to move La Salle’s season-opening game to July 16, the way is now clear to Belgrade.

The trip was promised to the winner of the PCCL title last year. The Archers won the crown and were excited to play in the Universiade particularly as “import” Marko Batricevic is from Serbia. But when the deadline to submit the final engagement forms lapsed last Feb. 1 and nobody had contacted La Salle to coordinate the trip, the Archers wondered if they were taken for a ride.

But Jose (Junjun) Capistrano, who is the Philippine representative in the Universiade governing body Federation Internationale du Sport Universitaire (FISU), yesterday assured arrangements for the trip are in progress. From all indications, the trip is a go. The only hitch is if FISU thumbs down La Salle’s participation which, said Capistrano, is unlikely.

Capistrano said 24 slots are available in basketball and if there are over 24 applicants, FISU will choose the entries. Paying the $5,000 participation fee, however, should guarantee the Archers a slot.

Capistrano, a member of the SBP Board, was nominated by the POC to represent the country in FISU two years ago. He is also the Philippine representative in the Asean University Sports Council and the Asian University Sports Federation. In July 2007, Capistrano attended the FISU meeting in Bangkok where the last Universiade was held.

“The Philippines was invited to send a basketball team to Serbia because the FISU secretary-general at that time knew of our love for the game,” said Capistrano. “With that in mind, I mentioned it to the SBP Board and since Rey (Gamboa) is also in the Board, we thought of offering the opportunity to the PCCL champion.”


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Capistrano said the Serbia format will require all teams to play until the last day of the event.

La Salle was initially slated to play UE in the main game of the UAAP season-opener on July 11. When Gamboa wrote the UAAP Board about the possibility of La Salle playing in Serbia, Montinola said he would propose an adjustment in the schedule.

“(FEU athletic director) Mark (Molina) and I reworked the UAAP schedule which is still subject to Board approval,” said Montinola who takes over the UAAP presidency with FEU as host during the Awards Night and turnover rites on Thursday. “We’re proposing for La Salle to play UE on July 16 to give them a chance to return from Serbia and take a few days rest. It will mean adjusting our calendar and playing three games instead of two in some days to make up.”

Montinola said FEU supports the PCCL and in a personal capacity, saw no problem in accommodating the request to adjust La Salle’s schedule.

Incidentally, Montinola clarified that the UAAP Board has not yet appointed a commissioner, contrary to what some sources claim. He also mentioned the La Salle-Ateneo game is set on the last day of the first round.


* * *

Gamboa wrote a formal letter to outgoing UAAP president Dr. Sergio Cao of UP informing the UAAP Board of La Salle’s participation in Serbia. While no formal reply has been made, Gamboa said Montinola’s expression of support was reassuring.

“The $5,000 application deposit has been paid to the organizers and we are awaiting their confirmation of the Philippines’ participation,” said Gamboa.

Aside from basketball, the Philippines will send a delegation of 24 taekwondo jins to Serbia. The delegation is made up of 12 male and 12 female athletes, three coaches and a team official. The Philippine Taekwondo Association is taking care of the delegations’ expenses. In the last Universiade, the Philippines took a bronze medal in taekwondo.

Gamboa said the basketball event in Serbia is limited to teams with priority given to those with a previous record of participation.

Capistrano said in 1967, the Philippines sent a basketball team to the World University Games in Tokyo. “The UAAP used to represent the country in the Universiade,” he went on. “We sent athletes only to the Universiades which were held nearby so it didn’t cost too much. Eventually, the letters of invitation were sent to the POC.”

Capistrano said a FISU meeting is slated on March 19-21 in Belgrade among the heads of delegations to decide the draws for the different events. The round-trip air fare of $15,000 is prohibitive so it’s unlikely he’ll go. He said he will inquire if the national development training team is leaving to train in Serbia soon and if the schedules coincide, perhaps an SBP official could attend the meeting.

The expenses to send La Salle to Serbia will run up to over $300,000. SBP executive director Noli Eala has confirmed that PLDT-Smart will cover the costs of the Archers’ trip to Belgrade.

More on the PCCL in tomorrow’s column.


PhilStar (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=447213&publicationSubCategoryId=69)

gameface_one
03-10-2009, 07:55 AM
No broken promise
SPORTING CHANCE By Joaquin M. Henson Updated March 10, 2009 12:00 AM
Philstar.com


A $5,000 participation fee was recently advanced by Philippine Collegiate Champions League (PCCL) chairman Rey Gamboa for the La Salle senior varsity basketball team to represent the country at the World University Games in Belgrade, Serbia, on July 1-12.

With PLDT-Smart confirming it will foot the bill for the Green Archers’ trip and incoming UAAP president Anton Montinola of FEU proposing to move La Salle’s season-opening game to July 16, the way is now clear to Belgrade.

The trip was promised to the winner of the PCCL title last year. The Archers won the crown and were excited to play in the Universiade particularly as “import” Marko Batricevic is from Serbia. But when the deadline to submit the final engagement forms lapsed last Feb. 1 and nobody had contacted La Salle to coordinate the trip, the Archers wondered if they were taken for a ride.

But Jose (Junjun) Capistrano, who is the Philippine representative in the Universiade governing body Federation Internationale du Sport Universitaire (FISU), yesterday assured arrangements for the trip are in progress. From all indications, the trip is a go. The only hitch is if FISU thumbs down La Salle’s participation which, said Capistrano, is unlikely.

Capistrano said 24 slots are available in basketball and if there are over 24 applicants, FISU will choose the entries. Paying the $5,000 participation fee, however, should guarantee the Archers a slot.

Capistrano, a member of the SBP Board, was nominated by the POC to represent the country in FISU two years ago. He is also the Philippine representative in the Asean University Sports Council and the Asian University Sports Federation. In July 2007, Capistrano attended the FISU meeting in Bangkok where the last Universiade was held.

“The Philippines was invited to send a basketball team to Serbia because the FISU secretary-general at that time knew of our love for the game,” said Capistrano. “With that in mind, I mentioned it to the SBP Board and since Rey (Gamboa) is also in the Board, we thought of offering the opportunity to the PCCL champion.”

* * *

Capistrano said the Serbia format will require all teams to play until the last day of the event.

La Salle was initially slated to play UE in the main game of the UAAP season-opener on July 11. When Gamboa wrote the UAAP Board about the possibility of La Salle playing in Serbia, Montinola said he would propose an adjustment in the schedule.

“(FEU athletic director) Mark (Molina) and I reworked the UAAP schedule which is still subject to Board approval,” said Montinola who takes over the UAAP presidency with FEU as host during the Awards Night and turnover rites on Thursday. “We’re proposing for La Salle to play UE on July 16 to give them a chance to return from Serbia and take a few days rest. It will mean adjusting our calendar and playing three games instead of two in some days to make up.”

Montinola said FEU supports the PCCL and in a personal capacity, saw no problem in accommodating the request to adjust La Salle’s schedule.

Incidentally, Montinola clarified that the UAAP Board has not yet appointed a commissioner, contrary to what some sources claim. He also mentioned the La Salle-Ateneo game is set on the last day of the first round.

* * *

Gamboa wrote a formal letter to outgoing UAAP president Dr. Sergio Cao of UP informing the UAAP Board of La Salle’s participation in Serbia. While no formal reply has been made, Gamboa said Montinola’s expression of support was reassuring.

“The $5,000 application deposit has been paid to the organizers and we are awaiting their confirmation of the Philippines’ participation,” said Gamboa.

Aside from basketball, the Philippines will send a delegation of 24 taekwondo jins to Serbia. The delegation is made up of 12 male and 12 female athletes, three coaches and a team official. The Philippine Taekwondo Association is taking care of the delegations’ expenses. In the last Universiade, the Philippines took a bronze medal in taekwondo.

Gamboa said the basketball event in Serbia is limited to teams with priority given to those with a previous record of participation.

Capistrano said in 1967, the Philippines sent a basketball team to the World University Games in Tokyo. “The UAAP used to represent the country in the Universiade,” he went on. “We sent athletes only to the Universiades which were held nearby so it didn’t cost too much. Eventually, the letters of invitation were sent to the POC.”

Capistrano said a FISU meeting is slated on March 19-21 in Belgrade among the heads of delegations to decide the draws for the different events. The round-trip air fare of $15,000 is prohibitive so it’s unlikely he’ll go. He said he will inquire if the national development training team is leaving to train in Serbia soon and if the schedules coincide, perhaps an SBP official could attend the meeting.

The expenses to send La Salle to Serbia will run up to over $300,000. SBP executive director Noli Eala has confirmed that PLDT-Smart will cover the costs of the Archers’ trip to Belgrade.

More on the PCCL in tomorrow’s column.

TellTell
03-10-2009, 12:10 PM
I hope im wrong, but it does not feel right. Regardless of what Mr. Henson said, its still not clear that La Salle is going. Could this just be a press release to cover up the PCC's false statements in the past? I guess time will tell. If La Salle will go, then my hats off to the PCC organizers, if not, then they will have a lot of explaining to do... and they better not say 'they did everything they can' because they did not. They announced to the whole world that the champions of the PCC will go to Belgrade. No ifs, no buts. Do i sense an 'apology' soon? or just lame excuses... again...

TellTell
03-10-2009, 12:24 PM
This article does not prove anything. It does not say that the PCC Champions will be on its way to Belgrade. Pardon me for my cynicism, but i still feel that this issue has not been placed to rest. If indeed the Philippines will be represented by the PCC champions in Belgrade, then kudos to the PCC. If it turns out that all these 'press releases' are mere propaganda to cover the PCC Organizer's incompetence, then i will say... 'i told you so...'. Until then, lets not presume that this issue is done because its far from being over..

The_Big_Cat
03-10-2009, 02:57 PM
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No broken promise
By Joaquin M. Henson
Updated March 10, 2009 12:00 AM

A $5,000 participation fee was recently advanced by Philippine Collegiate Champions League (PCCL) chairman Rey Gamboa for the La Salle senior varsity basketball team to represent the country at the World University Games in Belgrade, Serbia, on July 1-12.

With PLDT-Smart confirming it will foot the bill for the Green Archers’ trip and incoming UAAP president Anton Montinola of FEU proposing to move La Salle’s season-opening game to July 16, the way is now clear to Belgrade.

The trip was promised to the winner of the PCCL title last year. The Archers won the crown and were excited to play in the Universiade particularly as “import” Marko Batricevic is from Serbia. But when the deadline to submit the final engagement forms lapsed last Feb. 1 and nobody had contacted La Salle to coordinate the trip, the Archers wondered if they were taken for a ride.

But Jose (Junjun) Capistrano, who is the Philippine representative in the Universiade governing body Federation Internationale du Sport Universitaire (FISU), yesterday assured arrangements for the trip are in progress. From all indications, the trip is a go. The only hitch is if FISU thumbs down La Salle’s participation which, said Capistrano, is unlikely.

Capistrano said 24 slots are available in basketball and if there are over 24 applicants, FISU will choose the entries. Paying the $5,000 participation fee, however, should guarantee the Archers a slot.
Capistrano, a member of the SBP Board, was nominated by the POC to represent the country in FISU two years ago. He is also the Philippine representative in the Asean University Sports Council and the Asian University Sports Federation. In July 2007, Capistrano attended the FISU meeting in Bangkok where the last Universiade was held.

“The Philippines was invited to send a basketball team to Serbia because the FISU secretary-general at that time knew of our love for the game,” said Capistrano. “With that in mind, I mentioned it to the SBP Board and since Rey (Gamboa) is also in the Board, we thought of offering the opportunity to the PCCL champion.”


* * *

Capistrano said the Serbia format will require all teams to play until the last day of the event.

La Salle was initially slated to play UE in the main game of the UAAP season-opener on July 11. When Gamboa wrote the UAAP Board about the possibility of La Salle playing in Serbia, Montinola said he would propose an adjustment in the schedule.

“(FEU athletic director) Mark (Molina) and I reworked the UAAP schedule which is still subject to Board approval,” said Montinola who takes over the UAAP presidency with FEU as host during the Awards Night and turnover rites on Thursday. “We’re proposing for La Salle to play UE on July 16 to give them a chance to return from Serbia and take a few days rest. It will mean adjusting our calendar and playing three games instead of two in some days to make up."
Montinola said FEU supports the PCCL and in a personal capacity, saw no problem in accommodating the request to adjust La Salle’s schedule.

Incidentally, Montinola clarified that the UAAP Board has not yet appointed a commissioner, contrary to what some sources claim. He also mentioned the La Salle-Ateneo game is set on the last day of the first round.


* * *

Gamboa wrote a formal letter to outgoing UAAP president Dr. Sergio Cao of UP informing the UAAP Board of La Salle’s participation in Serbia. While no formal reply has been made, Gamboa said Montinola’s expression of support was reassuring.

“The $5,000 application deposit has been paid to the organizers and we are awaiting their confirmation of the Philippines’ participation,” said Gamboa.

Aside from basketball, the Philippines will send a delegation of 24 taekwondo jins to Serbia. The delegation is made up of 12 male and 12 female athletes, three coaches and a team official. The Philippine Taekwondo Association is taking care of the delegations’ expenses. In the last Universiade, the Philippines took a bronze medal in taekwondo.

Gamboa said the basketball event in Serbia is limited to teams with priority given to those with a previous record of participation.

Capistrano said in 1967, the Philippines sent a basketball team to the World University Games in Tokyo. “The UAAP used to represent the country in the Universiade,” he went on. “We sent athletes only to the Universiades which were held nearby so it didn’t cost too much. Eventually, the letters of invitation were sent to the POC.”

Capistrano said a FISU meeting is slated on March 19-21 in Belgrade among the heads of delegations to decide the draws for the different events. The round-trip air fare of $15,000 is prohibitive so it’s unlikely he’ll go. He said he will inquire if the national development training team is leaving to train in Serbia soon and if the schedules coincide, perhaps an SBP official could attend the meeting.

The expenses to send La Salle to Serbia will run up to over $300,000. SBP executive director Noli Eala has confirmed that PLDT-Smart will cover the costs of the Archers’ trip to Belgrade.

More on the PCCL in tomorrow’s column.


PhilStar (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=447213&publicationSubCategoryId=69)


All's well that ends well.

Definitely, Franz has no reason to abandon his squad in the middle of an international tournament.* ;D

TellTell
03-10-2009, 03:39 PM
All's well that ends well? I don't think so... not yet at least. I hope you're right though. And regarding your statement re Franz? -- its not funny. Maybe you can tell that to Coach Jack Santiago's Family and see if it's funny..

CrossOver
03-11-2009, 12:45 AM
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False alarm
By Joaquin Henson
Updated March 11, 2009 12:00 AM

The cost for a round-trip ticket to Belgrade is $1,500 and not $15,000 as reported in this column yesterday.

Jose (Junjun) Capistrano, the Philippine representative to the World University Games’ governing body Federation Internationale du Sport Universitaire (FISU), inadvertently added another zero to the sum in calculating a budget to attend the head of delegations meeting in Belgrade on March 19-21.

Without noticing the mistake, Capistrano said he couldn’t afford to make the trip.

But SBP executive director Noli Eala yesterday pointed out the error as he, too, is fixing to travel to Serbia with coach Rajko Toroman’s national developmental basketball team.

In fact, Capistrano asked Eala if he could attend the Universiade meeting instead since he would be in Belgrade anyway with Toroman’s squad. Eala, however, said the team will be in Serbia from March 27 to April 7 to play a series of games against four Division A and three Division B clubs.

Eala said the budget to bring over the developmental team to Serbia is about $80,000 for a 10-day visit. He estimated the budget for La Salle to play in the Universiade to be about $20,000 for 15 persons from July 1 to 12.

Late yesterday, Capistrano was trying to reach Jack Rodriguez, the country’s consul to Serbia. Since the $1,500 airfare is affordable, Capistrano will try to find out if it’s not too late to fly to Belgrade. How quickly a visa may be issued is a factor.

The Serbia trip is just one of the prizes that La Salle won by capturing the Philippine Collegiate Champions League (PCCL) crown last December.


* * *

PCCL chairman Rey Gamboa said last season, the total amount of prizes solicited by the league was P1.907 million. The prizes were in form of scholarship grants, athletic items, team and individual trophies and medals, gift items and certificates and cash. The major prize donors were FilOil Flying V, SBP chairman Manny V. Pangilinan, Kentucky Fried Chicken and Molten basketballs.

Gamboa said the prizes were distributed to the nine regional champions and the Final Four teams in the Sweet 16 Finals. No other collegiate tournament gives as many prizes and in those hefty amounts.

The winners of the FilOil Flying V scholarship grants were La Salle (P500,000), Ateneo (P200,000), Letran (P100,000) and San Beda College (P50,000). The grants are paid directly by FilOil Flying V to the schools upon submission of the list of beneficiaries. La Salle has submitted its list and the check will be presented by FilOil Flying V to the school’s representative during the pre-season tournament opening games on April 19.

During the launch of last year’s tournament, the only prizes that were initially mentioned were the scholarship grants. The other prizes were later announced and awarded right after the regional championships (nine regional winners were given P20,000 each in athletic items and trophy) and the Sweet 16 Finals.

Aside from the scholarship grants, the players of the Final Four teams received bonus cash and gift certificates amounting to P400,000 for La Salle, P200,000 for Ateneo, P100,000 for Letran and P50,000 for San Beda. MVP J. V. Casio was given P25,000, a KFC special prize and trophy, best coach Franz Pumaren P15,000 and trophy, best referee Barbacena P15,000 and trophy and the mythical first teamers Casio, Rico Maierhofer, Rabeh Al-Husseini, R. J. Jazul and Nonoy Baclao P5,000, a KFC special prize and individual medals each.


* * *

Gamboa said corporate sponsors PLDT and Smart provided the funds for the airfare, transportation and accommodation expenses of all teams that advanced to the regional and zonal championships and the Sweet 16 Finals in Manila.

For the record, the PCCL is a non-profit entity with the objective of bringing together all the country’s 27 senior varsity league titleholders and for these teams to compete in a nationwide multi-level tournament culminating in the Sweet 16 Finals to crown the national champion for the season.

Funds for the PCCL are sourced solely from corporate sponsors and donors. The PCCL does not charge admission fees during games. The nominal fees assessed during the Finals last December were for the account of FilOil Flying V, sponsor of the championship phase, to partially cover their costs.

In sum, all the promises made by the PCCL to the tournament participants were kept. And in fact, a lot more than the promises were given. No wonder everyone’s looking forward to this season’s edition. The players, coaches and fans know when they’ve got a good thing going.


PhilStar (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=447509&publicationSubCategoryId=69)

gameface_one
03-11-2009, 03:10 PM
False alarm
By Joaquin Henson
Updated March 11, 2009 12:00 AM

The cost for a round-trip ticket to Belgrade is $1,500 and not $15,000 as reported in this column yesterday.

Jose (Junjun) Capistrano, the Philippine representative to the World University Games’ governing body Federation Internationale du Sport Universitaire (FISU), inadvertently added another zero to the sum in calculating a budget to attend the head of delegations meeting in Belgrade on March 19-21.

Without noticing the mistake, Capistrano said he couldn’t afford to make the trip.

But SBP executive director Noli Eala yesterday pointed out the error as he, too, is fixing to travel to Serbia with coach Rajko Toroman’s national developmental basketball team.

In fact, Capistrano asked Eala if he could attend the Universiade meeting instead since he would be in Belgrade anyway with Toroman’s squad. Eala, however, said the team will be in Serbia from March 27 to April 7 to play a series of games against four Division A and three Division B clubs.

Eala said the budget to bring over the developmental team to Serbia is about $80,000 for a 10-day visit. He estimated the budget for La Salle to play in the Universiade to be about $20,000 for 15 persons from July 1 to 12.

Late yesterday, Capistrano was trying to reach Jack Rodriguez, the country’s consul to Serbia. Since the $1,500 airfare is affordable, Capistrano will try to find out if it’s not too late to fly to Belgrade. How quickly a visa may be issued is a factor.

The Serbia trip is just one of the prizes that La Salle won by capturing the Philippine Collegiate Champions League (PCCL) crown last December.


* * *


PCCL chairman Rey Gamboa said last season, the total amount of prizes solicited by the league was P1.907 million. The prizes were in form of scholarship grants, athletic items, team and individual trophies and medals, gift items and certificates and cash. The major prize donors were FilOil Flying V, SBP chairman Manny V. Pangilinan, Kentucky Fried Chicken and Molten basketballs.

Gamboa said the prizes were distributed to the nine regional champions and the Final Four teams in the Sweet 16 Finals. No other collegiate tournament gives as many prizes and in those hefty amounts.

The winners of the FilOil Flying V scholarship grants were La Salle (P500,000), Ateneo (P200,000), Letran (P100,000) and San Beda College (P50,000). The grants are paid directly by FilOil Flying V to the schools upon submission of the list of beneficiaries. La Salle has submitted its list and the check will be presented by FilOil Flying V to the school’s representative during the pre-season tournament opening games on April 19.

During the launch of last year’s tournament, the only prizes that were initially mentioned were the scholarship grants. The other prizes were later announced and awarded right after the regional championships (nine regional winners were given P20,000 each in athletic items and trophy) and the Sweet 16 Finals.

Aside from the scholarship grants, the players of the Final Four teams received bonus cash and gift certificates amounting to P400,000 for La Salle, P200,000 for Ateneo, P100,000 for Letran and P50,000 for San Beda. MVP J. V. Casio was given P25,000, a KFC special prize and trophy, best coach Franz Pumaren P15,000 and trophy, best referee Barbacena P15,000 and trophy and the mythical first teamers Casio, Rico Maierhofer, Rabeh Al-Husseini, R. J. Jazul and Nonoy Baclao P5,000, a KFC special prize and individual medals each.


* * *


Gamboa said corporate sponsors PLDT and Smart provided the funds for the airfare, transportation and accommodation expenses of all teams that advanced to the regional and zonal championships and the Sweet 16 Finals in Manila.

For the record, the PCCL is a non-profit entity with the objective of bringing together all the country’s 27 senior varsity league titleholders and for these teams to compete in a nationwide multi-level tournament culminating in the Sweet 16 Finals to crown the national champion for the season.

Funds for the PCCL are sourced solely from corporate sponsors and donors. The PCCL does not charge admission fees during games. The nominal fees assessed during the Finals last December were for the account of FilOil Flying V, sponsor of the championship phase, to partially cover their costs.

In sum, all the promises made by the PCCL to the tournament participants were kept. And in fact, a lot more than the promises were given. No wonder everyone’s looking forward to this season’s edition. The players, coaches and fans know when they’ve got a good thing going.


PhilStar

bigfreeze_bibby
03-22-2009, 09:00 AM
The latest on this saga:

Fisu nixes Archers’ Serbia Universiade stint

By Jasmine W. Payo
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 03:50:00 03/22/2009


MANILA, Philippines – The La Salle Green Archers lost a chance to represent the Philippines in the 2009 Summer Universiade from July 1 to 12 after officials thumbed down the country’s application to compete in the basketball event set in Belgrade, Serbia

Michal Buchel, sports department manager of International University Sports Federation (Fisu), said the organizers prioritized the 24 slots available in men’s basketball to member-countries.

“We have had over 30 teams from the member associations and it will not be fair to select for the draw countries that are non-member associations,” Buchel said in a letter to the Philippine Olympic Committee dated March 18. “I hope that in the future you’ll become a member of Fisu and be able to participate.”

The Archers won the trip as part of a prize package after upsetting rival and UAAP champion Ateneo Blue Eagles for the 2008 Philippine Collegiate Champion League (PCCL) crown.

But Jose Capistrano, the Philippine representative of Fisu affiliate Asian University Sports Federation, said the PCCL and the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas have already lined up other international tournaments as alternatives for the Archers.

“Definitely La Salle will still go to a competition abroad,” said Capistrano. “It was an honest mistake. Unfortunately, we were not aware of this provision [that only Fisu members can join the team events]. We were able to participate in the 2007 Universiade in Bangkok in taekwondo, swimming, and shooting. In previous years, we got invites even if we were not a member.”

The aborted trip disappointed the Archers, who were looking forward to the prestigious, Olympic-like gathering of varsity athletes from over 100 countries competing in 15 sports.

“It’s like we were taken for a ride,” said La Salle coach Franz Pumaren.

“We’re still hoping against hope they’ll take into consideration our appeal during the head of delegations meeting [this weekend],” said Capistrano, noting that the Philippines applied for Fisu membership back in 2007.

But Capistrano added that the Philippines earned berths in the taekwondo event where 24 UAAP athletes will compete.

The University of the East was the last basketball team to represent the Philippines in the 1967 Universiade with a lineup bannered by Robert Jaworski and Danny Florencio.

Nike Air
03-22-2009, 09:16 AM
okay lang na honest mistake sir capistrano pero mukhang hindi naman ganun ka-technical yung mistake na hindi lang na-confirm kung puede bang makapaglaro ang isang basketball team with the same regulations applied sa ibang sports like taekwondo, etc.

maybe an email to the organizers even before the pccl could have solved this problem. hindi kayo sana nag-assume kaagad na same rules will apply to other sports such as basketball na may invites to play in the tournament. ang tagal na panahon ang dumaan, ilang buwan na nakalipas since december 8 and wala man lang effort na ginawa to confirm this information.

sa tingin nyo ba papayag ang la salle na sumali sa mga tournament na ilalatag ninyo sa kanila? ayusin nyo din yan, baka mamaya may halong black propaganda na naman yan na maka-apekto sa schedule ng archers this coming uaap season. dlsu should study carefully yung mga "back-up" plans ng sbp sa mga other international tournaments na balak nilang ipadala dlsu.

izon
03-22-2009, 09:21 AM
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No broken promise
By Joaquin M. Henson
Updated March 10, 2009 12:00 AM

A $5,000 participation fee was recently advanced by Philippine Collegiate Champions League (PCCL) chairman Rey Gamboa for the La Salle senior varsity basketball team to represent the country at the World University Games in Belgrade, Serbia, on July 1-12.

With PLDT-Smart confirming it will foot the bill for the Green Archers’ trip and incoming UAAP president Anton Montinola of FEU proposing to move La Salle’s season-opening game to July 16, the way is now clear to Belgrade.

The trip was promised to the winner of the PCCL title last year. The Archers won the crown and were excited to play in the Universiade particularly as “import” Marko Batricevic is from Serbia. But when the deadline to submit the final engagement forms lapsed last Feb. 1 and nobody had contacted La Salle to coordinate the trip, the Archers wondered if they were taken for a ride.

But Jose (Junjun) Capistrano, who is the Philippine representative in the Universiade governing body Federation Internationale du Sport Universitaire (FISU), yesterday assured arrangements for the trip are in progress. From all indications, the trip is a go. The only hitch is if FISU thumbs down La Salle’s participation which, said Capistrano, is unlikely.

Capistrano said 24 slots are available in basketball and if there are over 24 applicants, FISU will choose the entries. Paying the $5,000 participation fee, however, should guarantee the Archers a slot.
Capistrano, a member of the SBP Board, was nominated by the POC to represent the country in FISU two years ago. He is also the Philippine representative in the Asean University Sports Council and the Asian University Sports Federation. In July 2007, Capistrano attended the FISU meeting in Bangkok where the last Universiade was held.

“The Philippines was invited to send a basketball team to Serbia because the FISU secretary-general at that time knew of our love for the game,” said Capistrano. “With that in mind, I mentioned it to the SBP Board and since Rey (Gamboa) is also in the Board, we thought of offering the opportunity to the PCCL champion.”


* * *

Capistrano said the Serbia format will require all teams to play until the last day of the event.

La Salle was initially slated to play UE in the main game of the UAAP season-opener on July 11. When Gamboa wrote the UAAP Board about the possibility of La Salle playing in Serbia, Montinola said he would propose an adjustment in the schedule.

“(FEU athletic director) Mark (Molina) and I reworked the UAAP schedule which is still subject to Board approval,” said Montinola who takes over the UAAP presidency with FEU as host during the Awards Night and turnover rites on Thursday. “We’re proposing for La Salle to play UE on July 16 to give them a chance to return from Serbia and take a few days rest. It will mean adjusting our calendar and playing three games instead of two in some days to make up."
Montinola said FEU supports the PCCL and in a personal capacity, saw no problem in accommodating the request to adjust La Salle’s schedule.

Incidentally, Montinola clarified that the UAAP Board has not yet appointed a commissioner, contrary to what some sources claim. He also mentioned the La Salle-Ateneo game is set on the last day of the first round.


* * *

Gamboa wrote a formal letter to outgoing UAAP president Dr. Sergio Cao of UP informing the UAAP Board of La Salle’s participation in Serbia. While no formal reply has been made, Gamboa said Montinola’s expression of support was reassuring.

“The $5,000 application deposit has been paid to the organizers and we are awaiting their confirmation of the Philippines’ participation,” said Gamboa.

Aside from basketball, the Philippines will send a delegation of 24 taekwondo jins to Serbia. The delegation is made up of 12 male and 12 female athletes, three coaches and a team official. The Philippine Taekwondo Association is taking care of the delegations’ expenses. In the last Universiade, the Philippines took a bronze medal in taekwondo.

Gamboa said the basketball event in Serbia is limited to teams with priority given to those with a previous record of participation.

Capistrano said in 1967, the Philippines sent a basketball team to the World University Games in Tokyo. “The UAAP used to represent the country in the Universiade,” he went on. “We sent athletes only to the Universiades which were held nearby so it didn’t cost too much. Eventually, the letters of invitation were sent to the POC.”

Capistrano said a FISU meeting is slated on March 19-21 in Belgrade among the heads of delegations to decide the draws for the different events. The round-trip air fare of $15,000 is prohibitive so it’s unlikely he’ll go. He said he will inquire if the national development training team is leaving to train in Serbia soon and if the schedules coincide, perhaps an SBP official could attend the meeting.

The expenses to send La Salle to Serbia will run up to over $300,000. SBP executive director Noli Eala has confirmed that PLDT-Smart will cover the costs of the Archers’ trip to Belgrade.

More on the PCCL in tomorrow’s column.


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All's well that ends well.

Definitely, Franz has no reason to abandon his squad in the middle of an international tournament.* ;D


Franz definitely cannot abandon the team in this international tournament. . . . . . . . . because FISU the organizer DOES NOT RECOGNIZE this league which La Salle won, thus Pumaren and his players will stay put in the Philippines and not go to Belgrade. This was the report I read in AP com. According to the said report, the league organizer will just find an international league which La Salle could join. Consuelo de bobo.

izon
03-22-2009, 09:26 AM
The latest on this saga:

Fisu nixes Archers’ Serbia Universiade stint

By Jasmine W. Payo
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 03:50:00 03/22/2009


MANILA, Philippines – The La Salle Green Archers lost a chance to represent the Philippines in the 2009 Summer Universiade from July 1 to 12 after officials thumbed down the country’s application to compete in the basketball event set in Belgrade, Serbia

Michal Buchel, sports department manager of International University Sports Federation (Fisu), said the organizers prioritized the 24 slots available in men’s basketball to member-countries.

“We have had over 30 teams from the member associations and it will not be fair to select for the draw countries that are non-member associations,” Buchel said in a letter to the Philippine Olympic Committee dated March 18. “I hope that in the future you’ll become a member of Fisu and be able to participate.”

The Archers won the trip as part of a prize package after upsetting rival and UAAP champion Ateneo Blue Eagles for the 2008 Philippine Collegiate Champion League (PCCL) crown.

But Jose Capistrano, the Philippine representative of Fisu affiliate Asian University Sports Federation, said the PCCL and the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas have already lined up other international tournaments as alternatives for the Archers.

“Definitely La Salle will still go to a competition abroad,” said Capistrano. “It was an honest mistake. Unfortunately, we were not aware of this provision [that only Fisu members can join the team events]. We were able to participate in the 2007 Universiade in Bangkok in taekwondo, swimming, and shooting. In previous years, we got invites even if we were not a member.”

The aborted trip disappointed the Archers, who were looking forward to the prestigious, Olympic-like gathering of varsity athletes from over 100 countries competing in 15 sports.

“It’s like we were taken for a ride,” said La Salle coach Franz Pumaren.

“We’re still hoping against hope they’ll take into consideration our appeal during the head of delegations meeting [this weekend],” said Capistrano, noting that the Philippines applied for Fisu membership back in 2007.

But Capistrano added that the Philippines earned berths in the taekwondo event where 24 UAAP athletes will compete.

The University of the East was the last basketball team to represent the Philippines in the 1967 Universiade with a lineup bannered by Robert Jaworski and Danny Florencio.


Is this incompetence or planned ? Ang daming sinabi wala rin pala.

TellTell
03-22-2009, 01:09 PM
Eala: De La Salle will go to Serbia in June
by Josef Ramos (inboundpass.com) - March 16, 2009

Contrary to senseless reports, Basketball Association of the Philippines-Samahan ng Basketbol ng Pilipinas (BAP-SBP) executive-director Noli Eala told inboundpass last March 16, 2009 that La Salle will go to Serbia before the end of June.

Eala, who is very busy promoting BAP-SBP’s Smart-Gilas national team composed of collegiate players around the country, said La Salle will represent the country for the 2009 Universiade Games in Belgrade in July.

“That’s not true. What you heard and read in various web pages are all lies,” Eala told inboundpass in a phone interview. “Manny V. Pangilinan, in the first place, is the one who told me to give the prizes to La Salle immediately.”

Eala also said the prize money worth P 500 thousand pesos was received whole by the La Salle Green Archers, who defeated the Ateneo Blue Eagles, 71-62, last December 9, 2008 to bag the Philippine Collegiate Championships.

But various criticisms from different internet sites, even until now, allegedly said Eala and the BAP-SBP have not yet given the prize money and the confirmation if La Salle would go to Belgrade in Serbia .

“That was already settled in late January or if I remember before early February,” said Eala. “It’s all our detractors who were responsible in spreading the “misinformation campaign” against me. I don’t know the reason.”

Eala said we will just keep working despite entertaining those reports. La Salle brother Bernie Oca did not comment on the issue.

------ WHAT NOW NOLI EALA?

shyboy
03-22-2009, 01:31 PM
So to answer the thread title, a big YES the pcc and sbp shortchanged DLSU. *These organizations should cease to exist for making false promises. *This is a collegiate league you're running for crying out loud. *What kind of values did you espouse to the colleges and universities that joined this damn league? *Incompetence? *Loss of credibility? *Making false promises? *Those responsible should resign in disgrace!

nel
03-22-2009, 06:42 PM
Ok, the bigwigs of the PCCL and SBP had their chance, and they blew it, big time! They even enlisted our erstwhile "independent minded" and so-called La Sallian supporter Quinito Henson to do some damage control. Unfortunately, Quinito relied too much on their say-so and didn't do his own verification like any responsible journalist would. So the PCCL, SBP, and Quinito ended up with egg on their faces. Not surprisingly, Eala has tried to stay as silent as he can be in an attempt to distance himself from the developing stink. It boggles the mind how the University Games can be included as a prize for the PCCL champion when the details were never ironed out in the first place. Or could it be that since La Salle unexpectedly won the championship, nobody bothered to follow up the arrangements?

It'll be interesting how they will try to put a positive spin on this latest booboo. Let's see how Quinito tries to squirm his way out of this smelly situation. Whether he likes it or not, the stench will stick to him because he tried to act as an apologist for the PCCL and SBP by publishing that column where he said that the prizes were awarded .

A lot of people just lost whatever remaining shreds of credibility they had.

Will it be worth it for La Salle to join the next edition of the PCCL after what happened?

nel
03-22-2009, 06:51 PM
Quinito lost his credibility as a journalist by blindly accepting the story he was fed. He didn't do his own homework the way a responsible journalist should. He's now in the proud company of Noli Eala. Maybe they should form a new association of sports figures whose credibility is zilch, zero, nada, wala, etc. OT - if Manny Pacquiao isn't careful, he might just unwittingly join them.

Nike Air
03-22-2009, 09:07 PM
Will it be worth it for La Salle to join the next edition of the PCCL after what happened?


my personal take is that wag na muna. nagkalokohan na e. lalo tuloy nabubuo ang pananaw ko na kung sakaling ateneo or san beda nanalo dyan, malamang asikaso kaagad yan at mabilis pa sa alas-kwatro ang pagplantsa sa mga detalye ng tournament na yan.

antayin natin ang latest na palusot ng sbp dito.

D_I_A
03-22-2009, 10:41 PM
Quinito lost his credibility as a journalist by blindly accepting the story he was fed. He didn't do his own homework the way a responsible journalist should. He's now in the proud company of Noli Eala. Maybe they should form a new association of sports figures whose credibility is zilch, zero, nada, wala, etc. OT - if Manny Pacquiao isn't careful, he might just unwittingly join them.



so you mean we better trust sports writing instead with Ronnie Nathanielz, Beth Celis, Nap Gutierrez and Zaldy Perez?

:D

Bruticus
03-22-2009, 11:03 PM
Kung ganyan ganyan lang ang magiging kalabasan eh wag nang sumali ang La Salle. In the meantime I think the Archers should just focus on their preparations for the upcoming 72nd season.

GreenArrows
03-23-2009, 07:40 AM
Eala: De La Salle will go to Serbia in June
by Josef Ramos (inboundpass.com - march 16)

Contrary to senseless reports, Basketball Association of the Philippines-Samahan ng Basketbol ng Pilipinas (BAP-SBP) executive-director Noli Eala told inboundpass last March 16, 2009 that La Salle will go to Serbia before the end of June.

Eala, who is very busy promoting BAP-SBP’s Smart-Gilas national team composed of collegiate players around the country, said La Salle will represent the country for the 2009 Universiade Games in Belgrade in July.

“That’s not true. What you heard and read in various web pages are all lies,” Eala told inboundpass in a phone interview. “Manny V. Pangilinan, in the first place, is the one who told me to give the prizes to La Salle immediately.”

Eala also said the prize money worth P 500 thousand pesos was received whole by the La Salle Green Archers, who defeated the Ateneo Blue Eagles, 71-62, last December 9, 2008 to bag the Philippine Collegiate Championships.

But various criticisms from different internet sites, even until now, allegedly said Eala and the BAP-SBP have not yet given the prize money and the confirmation if La Salle would go to Belgrade in Serbia .

“That was already settled in late January or if I remember before early February,” said Eala. “It’s all our detractors who were responsible in spreading the “misinformation campaign” against me. I don’t know the reason.”

Eala said we will just keep working despite entertaining those reports.* La Salle brother Bernie Oca did not comment on the issue.

Ayun pala, Eala, MVP himself told you to "give the prizes to La Salle immediately".* He did not say to give it deducted. Eala, your are lying through your teeth.* The team received only P400,000 and NOT P500,000!!!* Even Rey Gamboa admitted that the team only got P370,000 in cash and P30,000 in GCs.* The remaining P100,000 was distributed as prizes for the other awards given by the PCC.* So, who is telling the truth, Gamboa or Eala?* DLSU got what Gamboa said.*
As for Eala, LIAR!!!*

What has not been given as of this date, is PCC's scholarship prize of P500,000 which, as DLSU was advised only recently, will be given at the start of the Fil-Oil Summer Tournament.* MVP's donation was given though with deductions.* Thus, MVP's donation WAS NOT WHOLE!!!* Eala, "what you heard and read in various web pages are all lies"?* Only a LIAR can not tell the difference between the truth and his own lies!!!

Come to think of it, what could we have expected from someone who was disbarred by the Supreme Court for immorality.* The SBP and MVP would be better served by people who can tell the truth no matter how bad or brutal the truth can be.* Not unless that's the kind of people the SBP and MVP want running the organization.* IF it is, as far as basketball is concerned, the country may have just jumped from the kettle (BAP) to the fire (SBP).* Prove us wrong MVP!!! Get better and more qualified people to run the SBP.* Heck, you can buy anything in this country.* Why can't you get competent people to run your SBP?* Why hire a disbarred law graduate who can't tell the truth from the lies?

shyboy
03-23-2009, 08:07 AM
The latest on this saga:

Fisu nixes Archers’ Serbia Universiade stint

By Jasmine W. Payo
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 03:50:00 03/22/2009


MANILA, Philippines – The La Salle Green Archers lost a chance to represent the Philippines in the 2009 Summer Universiade from July 1 to 12 after officials thumbed down the country’s application to compete in the basketball event set in Belgrade, Serbia

Michal Buchel, sports department manager of International University Sports Federation (Fisu), said the organizers prioritized the 24 slots available in men’s basketball to member-countries.

“We have had over 30 teams from the member associations and it will not be fair to select for the draw countries that are non-member associations,” Buchel said in a letter to the Philippine Olympic Committee dated March 18. “I hope that in the future you’ll become a member of Fisu and be able to participate.”

The Archers won the trip as part of a prize package after upsetting rival and UAAP champion Ateneo Blue Eagles for the 2008 Philippine Collegiate Champion League (PCCL) crown.

But Jose Capistrano, the Philippine representative of Fisu affiliate Asian University Sports Federation, said the PCCL and the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas have already lined up other international tournaments as alternatives for the Archers.

“Definitely La Salle will still go to a competition abroad,” said Capistrano. “It was an honest mistake. Unfortunately, we were not aware of this provision [that only Fisu members can join the team events]. We were able to participate in the 2007 Universiade in Bangkok in taekwondo, swimming, and shooting. In previous years, we got invites even if we were not a member.”

The aborted trip disappointed the Archers, who were looking forward to the prestigious, Olympic-like gathering of varsity athletes from over 100 countries competing in 15 sports.

“It’s like we were taken for a ride,” said La Salle coach Franz Pumaren.

“We’re still hoping against hope they’ll take into consideration our appeal during the head of delegations meeting [this weekend],” said Capistrano, noting that the Philippines applied for Fisu membership back in 2007.

But Capistrano added that the Philippines earned berths in the taekwondo event where 24 UAAP athletes will compete.

The University of the East was the last basketball team to represent the Philippines in the 1967 Universiade with a lineup bannered by Robert Jaworski and Danny Florencio.



No broken promise
SPORTING CHANCE By Joaquin M. Henson Updated March 10, 2009 12:00 AM

A $5,000 participation fee was recently advanced by Philippine Collegiate Champions League (PCCL) chairman Rey Gamboa for the La Salle senior varsity basketball team to represent the country at the World University Games in Belgrade, Serbia, on July 1-12.

With PLDT-Smart confirming it will foot the bill for the Green Archers’ trip and incoming UAAP president Anton Montinola of FEU proposing to move La Salle’s season-opening game to July 16, the way is now clear to Belgrade.

The trip was promised to the winner of the PCCL title last year. The Archers won the crown and were excited to play in the Universiade particularly as “import” Marko Batricevic is from Serbia. But when the deadline to submit the final engagement forms lapsed last Feb. 1 and nobody had contacted La Salle to coordinate the trip, the Archers wondered if they were taken for a ride.

But Jose (Junjun) Capistrano, who is the Philippine representative in the Universiade governing body Federation Internationale du Sport Universitaire (FISU), yesterday assured arrangements for the trip are in progress. From all indications, the trip is a go. The only hitch is if FISU thumbs down La Salle’s participation which, said Capistrano, is unlikely.

Capistrano said 24 slots are available in basketball and if there are over 24 applicants, FISU will choose the entries. Paying the $5,000 participation fee, however, should guarantee the Archers a slot.

Capistrano, a member of the SBP Board, was nominated by the POC to represent the country in FISU two years ago. He is also the Philippine representative in the Asean University Sports Council and the Asian University Sports Federation. In July 2007, Capistrano attended the FISU meeting in Bangkok where the last Universiade was held.

“The Philippines was invited to send a basketball team to Serbia because the FISU secretary-general at that time knew of our love for the game,” said Capistrano. “With that in mind, I mentioned it to the SBP Board and since Rey (Gamboa) is also in the Board, we thought of offering the opportunity to the PCCL champion.”

* * *

Capistrano said the Serbia format will require all teams to play until the last day of the event.

La Salle was initially slated to play UE in the main game of the UAAP season-opener on July 11. When Gamboa wrote the UAAP Board about the possibility of La Salle playing in Serbia, Montinola said he would propose an adjustment in the schedule.

“(FEU athletic director) Mark (Molina) and I reworked the UAAP schedule which is still subject to Board approval,” said Montinola who takes over the UAAP presidency with FEU as host during the Awards Night and turnover rites on Thursday. “We’re proposing for La Salle to play UE on July 16 to give them a chance to return from Serbia and take a few days rest. It will mean adjusting our calendar and playing three games instead of two in some days to make up.”

Montinola said FEU supports the PCCL and in a personal capacity, saw no problem in accommodating the request to adjust La Salle’s schedule.

Incidentally, Montinola clarified that the UAAP Board has not yet appointed a commissioner, contrary to what some sources claim. He also mentioned the La Salle-Ateneo game is set on the last day of the first round.

* * *

Gamboa wrote a formal letter to outgoing UAAP president Dr. Sergio Cao of UP informing the UAAP Board of La Salle’s participation in Serbia. While no formal reply has been made, Gamboa said Montinola’s expression of support was reassuring.

“The $5,000 application deposit has been paid to the organizers and we are awaiting their confirmation of the Philippines’ participation,” said Gamboa.

Aside from basketball, the Philippines will send a delegation of 24 taekwondo jins to Serbia. The delegation is made up of 12 male and 12 female athletes, three coaches and a team official. The Philippine Taekwondo Association is taking care of the delegations’ expenses. In the last Universiade, the Philippines took a bronze medal in taekwondo.

Gamboa said the basketball event in Serbia is limited to teams with priority given to those with a previous record of participation.

Capistrano said in 1967, the Philippines sent a basketball team to the World University Games in Tokyo. “The UAAP used to represent the country in the Universiade,” he went on. “We sent athletes only to the Universiades which were held nearby so it didn’t cost too much. Eventually, the letters of invitation were sent to the POC.”

Capistrano said a FISU meeting is slated on March 19-21 in Belgrade among the heads of delegations to decide the draws for the different events. The round-trip air fare of $15,000 is prohibitive so it’s unlikely he’ll go. He said he will inquire if the national development training team is leaving to train in Serbia soon and if the schedules coincide, perhaps an SBP official could attend the meeting.

The expenses to send La Salle to Serbia will run up to over $300,000. SBP executive director Noli Eala has confirmed that PLDT-Smart will cover the costs of the Archers’ trip to Belgrade.

More on the PCCL in tomorrow’s column.
Was there really an invitation from FISU to send a basketball team to Serbia? *Paying the $5,000 participation fee should guarantee the Archers a slot? *FISU thumbs down unlikely?

Now Mr. Capistrano says “It was an honest mistake. Unfortunately, we were not aware of this provision [that only Fisu members can join the team events]." *He's the Philippine representative and he doesn't know the provisions? *tsk tsk tsk *

Man, the Serbia trip was doomed for the Green Archers from the very start. *Right, Mr. Ateneo UAAP Board Rep?

nel
03-23-2009, 09:51 AM
They're probably members of the same society of paid hacks together with Quinito, in particular Nathanielsz. You'd think that we would have enough home bred journalists without giving a transplant the mileage he's getting. And to think, he showed his true colors during the last months of the Marcos era as an apologist for the powers-that-be as repayment for being given citizenship by decree. He only re-surfaced several years after the end of the Marcos era, when he was sure that he wouldn't be lynched by the real Filipino journalists.

Whenever these so-called independent journalists write about an issue, chances are that they are promoting someone else's views, which will in all likelihood is already their own because of, shall we say, certain compensatory factors. So, where they're concerned, is the date the only thing accurate in the paper?

The_Big_Cat
03-23-2009, 11:28 AM
Quinito lost his credibility as a journalist by blindly accepting the story he was fed. He didn't do his own homework the way a responsible journalist should. He's now in the proud company of Noli Eala. Maybe they should form a new association of sports figures whose credibility is zilch, zero, nada, wala, etc. OT - if Manny Pacquiao isn't careful, he might just unwittingly join them.


AFAIK, MVP's MediaQuest has purchased the Philippine Star.

gameface_one
03-23-2009, 12:33 PM
This was really not handled well. If I were MVP, I'll suspend or kick out some officials for gross negligence.

coreytaylor
03-23-2009, 01:21 PM
By the looks of it, this issue just got from bad to worst. This is very unfair to La Salle. With was has been happening, it would be better if they will vanquish this league. La naman palang mapapala kung sino sasali dito. This prestigious league just turned to a so-so league.

LION
03-23-2009, 02:01 PM
I think Noli Eala and those responsible for the fiasco should resign from their posts and save the PCC from further embarrassment.

GHRanger
03-23-2009, 02:05 PM
Franz was right when they said they were taken for a ride.

But looking at it, everyone was taken for a ride -- from the fans who paid entrance and supported their teams, from the sponsors who supported them logistically and financially, from the leaders of many institutions voicing out support for this league, from the various media groups who published, supported and defended them.

They made a fool out of a lot people.

GreenArrows
03-23-2009, 02:27 PM
This was really not handled well. If I were MVP, I'll suspend or kick out some officials for gross negligence.

At last, gameface_one has taken a stand on this matter and not just merely post the various 'praise', este, press releases of the SBP.

As for me, considering how rich and powerful MVP is, he really should get more qualified people to run HIS SBP.* Let's face it, without MVP, there would be no SBP to talk about.* So, sir, if you are reading this, kick out the bad apples and start getting qualified people to run the organization.* At least, get someone who can tell the truth.* For the truth, regardless of its ugly face, will set everyone FREE!

GreenArrows
03-23-2009, 02:29 PM
I think* Noli Eala and those responsible for the fiasco should resign from their posts and save the PCC from further embarrassment.



If this is how Eala wants to run the SBP, then Philippine basketball is doomed.

P.S. LION, good luck on your FOUR-PEAT campaign. Trust me, it will be the hardest yet to win. GOOD LUCK!

GreenArrows
03-23-2009, 02:35 PM
By the looks of it, this issue just got from bad to worst. This is very unfair to La Salle. With was has been happening, it would be better if they will vanquish this league. La naman palang mapapala kung sino sasali dito. This prestigious league just turned to a so-so league.

One thing the SBP can do is institute rules wherein leagues and tournaments must divulge to ALL the participating teams, the prizes and awards that can be won.* Also, ALL cash prizes MUST be held by a trustee, preferably a trustee bank, for the benefit of the winners and persons the cash prizes were designed for.*

Meanwhile, non-cash prizes must be certified with ACTUAL FACTS AND, if needed, RESERVATIONS for the winning team(s).* These certifications should be under penalty to the organizers that should these non-cash prizes not materialize, the cash value of said prizes (like they said $300,000 for the Serbia trip for example) should be given to the winning team.

These are just some guidelines and rules the SBP should look into and implement nationwide to* avoid any inkling of impropriety and to avoid taking the participating teams for a ride.* Specially if the Champion team is not to the liking of the SBP bigwigs like Eala.

This way, leagues and tournaments would be more circumspect in what they advertise as come ons to their league/tournaments. Also, the Champion teams would receive exactly what they were promised IMMEDIATELY after the last second of the Championship games.

D_I_A
03-23-2009, 02:38 PM
Hi D_I_A, am editing your post regarding the article since I've posted this already in page 4.* Thanks.

LION
03-23-2009, 04:26 PM
I think* Noli Eala and those responsible for the fiasco should resign from their posts and save the PCC from further embarrassment.



If this is how Eala wants to run the SBP, then Philippine basketball is doomed.

P.S. LION, good luck on your FOUR-PEAT campaign.* Trust me, it will be the hardest yet to win.* GOOD LUCK!


Thanks GA. Our teams are situated similarly. We both lost key players and are on a rebuilding mode but DLSU's recent acquisitions will hasten your way back to the top of the food chain. Good luck too in your campaign this year.

On topic, I myself am pissed off with the way things turned out in the PCC. The tournament has noble intentions. It has a mission and vision that is good for collegiate basketball but with the way the current officers handled things, the PCC has lost its credibility.*

I do hope that the current officers will resign to pave the way for the much needed reforms and for DLSU to start believing in the PCC again.*

shyboy
03-23-2009, 05:53 PM
I do hope that the current officers will resign to pave the way for the much needed reforms and for DLSU to start believing in the PCC again.
This is going to be very difficult for the DLSU community given the way how things stand at this point. >:(

nel
03-23-2009, 06:24 PM
Actually, it's not only La Salle supporters who have lost faith in the PCCL. The credibility of the PCCL was tarnished by an inability to deliver on the promises. So the next time the PCCL is held, maybe some participating schools will insist on "prepaid" prizes.

The PCCL and SBP even got Quinito to say in his column that all the promises were kept, and he gladly obliged. Now, he's got to get his foot out of his mouth. Maybe he can ask Eala for instructions on how to do this, since he seems to believe the blather that Eala spouted.

This is beginning to sound like politics, with all the campaign promises generously thrown around. It wouldn't surprise me if some of these names appear on the ballots next year. Maybe this episode was just practice for them.

In the meantime, the Green Archers were taken for a ride, as Franz so aptly put it.

GreenArrows
03-23-2009, 06:27 PM
I think* Noli Eala and those responsible for the fiasco should resign from their posts and save the PCC from further embarrassment.



If this is how Eala wants to run the SBP, then Philippine basketball is doomed.

P.S. LION, good luck on your FOUR-PEAT campaign.* Trust me, it will be the hardest yet to win.* GOOD LUCK!


Thanks GA. Our teams are situated similarly. We both lost key players and are on a rebuilding mode but DLSU's recent acquisitions will hasten your way back to the top of the food chain. Good luck too in your campaign this year.

On topic, I myself am pissed off with the way things turned out in the PCC. The tournament has noble intentions. It has a mission and vision that is good for collegiate basketball but with the way the current officers handled things, the PCC has lost its credibility.*

I do hope that the current officers will resign to pave the way for the much needed reforms and for DLSU to start believing in the PCC again.*




You are right. *I was one of only a few La Sallians that endorsed the 'new' PCC and posted it in APcom. *With the prodding of Solar, I believed that the PCC was now reformed and that it was truly designed, with the help of the SBP, to be the ultimate collegiate championship. *Remember, DLSU only joined this tournament on its first year and avoided the PCC when we felt the tournament was not run professionally. *I thought with the SBP involved, DLSU should give this tournament a chance. *And we managed to convince the school, players, coaches and team management to join the PCC.

After all this mess, I am almost ashamed of having endorsed this to my community. *If ever, DLSU will seriously restudy any proposal to rejoin the PCC again. *Imagine a tournament played without the defending champions? *It's like the NCAA with San Beda skipping the chance to win a historic 4-peat! *Unimaginable.

Lion, btw, the recruits that you are referring to were suppose to help us in the Universaide - considered the Olympics of collegiate sports. *No national teams, just champion schools. *But with the Universaide participation very dim, it's a miracle our players, recruits included, continue to be in high spirits. *Good luck to both our teams!

pio_valenz
03-23-2009, 07:34 PM
Sayang lang ang lahat ng trinabaho last year to make the PCC a credible tournament. All of that has gone down the drain. Initially I was willing to give the SBP and the PCC organizers the benefit of the doubt, but obviously that's no longer possible. All this time, the Philippines' participation in the Universiade was never guaranteed!

I really feel for Joe Lipa and Rey Gamboa. For years they have worked hand in hand to make the PCC a true national collegiate basketball championship, and just when they finally got all the top UAAP and NCAA teams to compete, this fiasco has to happen. I say let heads roll at the SBP. Hold people accountable, MVP.

GreenArrows
03-23-2009, 08:14 PM
Sayang lang ang lahat ng trinabaho last year to make the PCC a credible tournament. All of that has gone down the drain. Initially I was willing to give the SBP and the PCC organizers the benefit of the doubt, but obviously that's no longer possible. All this time, the Philippines' participation in the Universiade was never guaranteed!

I really feel for Joe Lipa and Rey Gamboa. For years they have worked hand in hand to make the PCC a true national collegiate basketball championship, and just when they finally got all the top UAAP and NCAA teams to compete, this fiasco has to happen. I say let heads roll at the SBP. Hold people accountable, MVP.

Thanks Pio. For awhile, like gameface_one, you were pretty 'neutral' on the whole thing. Gameface_one just 'cut and pasted' news articles until his last post where he finally saw what we were raising hell about. Your statement above reaffirms that our friendship remains strong. Me and Pio may not see eye to eye all the time, just ask him about our heated arguments over Joe Lipa, but we have always respected each other's POV.

batangueño
03-23-2009, 10:14 PM
This whole brouhaha goes to show what kind of people are running Philippine basketball these days. Personal interests over the good of Philippine basketball? What the hell! >:(

pio_valenz
03-23-2009, 11:35 PM
Sayang lang ang lahat ng trinabaho last year to make the PCC a credible tournament. All of that has gone down the drain. Initially I was willing to give the SBP and the PCC organizers the benefit of the doubt, but obviously that's no longer possible. All this time, the Philippines' participation in the Universiade was never guaranteed!

I really feel for Joe Lipa and Rey Gamboa. For years they have worked hand in hand to make the PCC a true national collegiate basketball championship, and just when they finally got all the top UAAP and NCAA teams to compete, this fiasco has to happen. I say let heads roll at the SBP. Hold people accountable, MVP.

Thanks Pio.* For awhile, like gameface_one, you were pretty 'neutral' on the whole thing.* Gameface_one just 'cut and pasted' news articles until his last post where he finally saw what we were raising hell about.* Your statement above reaffirms that our friendship remains strong.* Me and Pio may not see eye to eye all the time, just ask him about our heated arguments over Joe Lipa, but we have always respected each other's POV.*

Haha! Thanks GA. You know me, I like to think I've always called a spade a spade. My "silence" on this issue, until today, didn't mean I was sympathetic with the PCC or SBP. I just wanted to sit back and see where all parties were coming from. I was an interested, but quiet, observer. Like I said, I wanted to give the organizers the benefit of the doubt and see if they really could deliver on their promise of sending the PCC champion to Serbia. They tried, but ultimately couldn't deliver. It's just so disheartening to learn that they did not follow a basic rule applicable to management as well as in life in general: don't make promises you can't keep.

From the beginning, I completely understood the La Salle community's raising hell over this issue, starting with the incomplete prize money and ending with this unfortunate empty promise. It's but natural for anyone to follow up on things that have been promised. I just wanted to listen first to the SBP and PCC air their side before publicly commenting. Oftentimes, especially on online fourms, people make comments when they are emotional or bereft of all the facts. But now that it's clear who was remiss, I decided to finally speak my mind.

A lot of damage control needs to be done to save the PCC's credibility. And as for the SBP, it appears one man's name is always cropping up in SBP-related issues and controversies. Keeps on sticking his head even into areas where it doesn't belong. Just remember what I texted you last week. ;)

gameface_one
03-23-2009, 11:45 PM
Sayang lang ang lahat ng trinabaho last year to make the PCC a credible tournament. All of that has gone down the drain. Initially I was willing to give the SBP and the PCC organizers the benefit of the doubt, but obviously that's no longer possible. All this time, the Philippines' participation in the Universiade was never guaranteed!

I really feel for Joe Lipa and Rey Gamboa. For years they have worked hand in hand to make the PCC a true national collegiate basketball championship, and just when they finally got all the top UAAP and NCAA teams to compete, this fiasco has to happen. I say let heads roll at the SBP. Hold people accountable, MVP.

Thanks Pio.* For awhile, like gameface_one, you were pretty 'neutral' on the whole thing.* Gameface_one just 'cut and pasted' news articles until his last post where he finally saw what we were raising hell about.* Your statement above reaffirms that our friendship remains strong.* Me and Pio may not see eye to eye all the time, just ask him about our heated arguments over Joe Lipa, but we have always respected each other's POV.*



Hi GreenArrows. Thank you for the comment. The "cut and paste" thing is part of our commitment to the partnership with the PCCL. We will still do this in compliance to the commitments made.

This is a hardcore site. We call a spade a spade. We always take a stand in all Basketball issues just like how we defended the SBP against the BAP. It is very evident that an injustice was made not only against La Salle but to us hardcore fans as well. We strongly feel that SBP officials should be held accountable. I think Rey *and the whole PCCL organization were just victims of empty promises.

Let's all exert pressure on MVP to act on this.

gfy
03-24-2009, 12:54 AM
I agree that promises were not kept and it looks like Junjun Capistrano and SBP didn't do their homework. But should there be prizes and promises at all if one wins the Champions League? Does the winner of March Madness in the USA get anything besides the Trophy?

Kid Cubao
03-24-2009, 04:58 AM
^^ i know what you're getting at, but for the sake of rhetoric, the winner of the NCAA basketball title gets nothing more than the trophy and a whole year's worth of bragging rights. no money involved, except sizable donations to the winning university's general scholarship fund.

gfy
03-24-2009, 06:39 AM
^ I wasn't getting at anything. It's just that schools should take, like in the USA, the PCCL championship as the ultimate prize. Thus they should not even have to require that the rosters should be intact for example. Or entice schools to join with all sorts of prizes. Of course kinks have to be ironed out like schedule. And since not all schools have the same alumni support which DLSU and Ateneo have, I am in favor of donations to the sports/scholarship funds of ALL the schools participating with the winners getting a little bit more.

shyboy
03-24-2009, 07:29 AM
^* That's for a separate discussion.

GreenArrows
03-24-2009, 07:50 AM
I agree with both of you, Kid and gfy. *DLSU would have competed in last year's PCC due to our own campaign to get the school to join even while the UAAP tournament was ongoing. *Just check APcom and you will see it was our own desire to campaign for the tournament believing that the tournament was finally the ultimate varsity competition we have all longed for. *Even when no prizes were announced, APcom continued to press DLSU to join the PCC. *In short, DLSU committed itself to join when (1) the prizes were not yet announced and (2) when the UAAP was still in its first round!!! *This you can catch at APcom's various threads.

It would have been fine for us is there were no prizes except for the title of the country's NATIONAL CHAMPIONS. Like the SBP and PCC said, THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE! *DLSU would have joined even if the crown was devoid of ANY prizes beyond the trophy. *That would have been fine with us. *But when their PR campaign started touting the list of prizes, it is only human for the players, coaches and the communities themselves to feel a little more encouraged to win. *That's human nature. *Then SBP, through Eala, promises to send the winning team to the Universaide, the more everyone is excited. *The Universaide is the OLYMPICS OF COLLEGE SPORTS! *No national teams here, just NATIONAL COLLEGE CHAMPIONS worldwide competing. *

After DLSU won the PCC over the NCAA AND UAAP CHAMPIONS, our program went into high gear to make sure that we do proud our representing our country. *We added some new talents and programmed a tough boot camp and training schedule to ensure that our team was best prepared for the Universaide. *Even until now, our team is deep into preparation, not only for the UAAP, but more importantly for the Serbia tournament. *If you keep track of our program, our team has never been at this level of preparation at this time of the year. *I could honestly say, we are, on a scale of 10 being the highest level of preparation, about 7.5 now. *Usually by this time of the year, with trimestral Finals still coming up end-March to early April, we would only be about 4.5-5 at this time. *The team usually builds up to about 8 when the UAAP starts, reaching its peak in the Final Four. *But this time, our team is already at 7.5 more than 3 months away from the UAAP! *Way ahead of our regular preparations. *And all this for the Universaide.

Again, I hope heads will roll. *MVP himself, like DLSU, may have been misled by people now running the SBP. *The SBP must come up with stricter rules regarding these matters for tournaments and leagues under the SBP's wing. *MVP heads the SBP and it should not be tainted by an immoral disbarred law graduate. *MVP, it's time to show your leadership here! *The entire La Sallian community is watching and waiting to see that leadership. *

At the very least, these 'fail' events have galvanized the Green and White community like never before. Trust me, never have so many alumni come up to offer to help our teams. *Except perhaps that disbarred lawyer's apologist at the Star. *::)

LION
03-24-2009, 10:01 AM
Actually, this is an issue not only limited to DLSU but to all schools who participated in the PCCL as well. The PCC organizers made a promise that they could not deliver to the eventual winner of the tournament.

It just so happened that the winner was DLSU. Had it been ADMU or SBC, either school will be on the same boat and they would not be able to go to Serbia also because the Philippines is not a member of the Universaide. This is one case where the mountain will not go to Mohammad. The whole fiasco is not due to the fact that it was DLSU which won the PCCL and not ADMU or SBC. It has nothing to do with that.

I can understand though if school color was made an issue though it has no basis. When emotions are high, we tend to suspect conspiracies, more so if we consider the animosity between the supporters of AMDU and DLSU.

I just don't know how the PCC will rectify this fiasco. A welcome step would be the resignation of those who did not do their homework.

GreenArrows
03-24-2009, 10:33 AM
Actually, this is an issue not only limited to DLSU but to all schools who participated in the PCCL as well. The PCC organizers made a promise that they could not deliver to the eventual winner of the tournament.

It just so happened that the winner was DLSU. Had it been ADMU or SBC, either school will be on the same boat and they would not be able to go to Serbia also* because* the Philippines is not a member of the Universaide. This is one case where the mountain will not go to Mohammad.* *The whole fiasco is not due to the fact that it was DLSU which won the PCCL and not ADMU or SBC.* It has nothing to do with that.

I can understand though if school color was made an issue though it has no basis. When emotions are high, we tend to suspect conspiracies, more so if we consider the animosity between the supporters of AMDU and DLSU.

I just don't know how the PCC will rectify this fiasco. A welcome step would be the resignation of those who did not do their homework.



And that includes both Eala and Capistrano.* Imagine, offering and promising something they could not deliver.* And on an OFFICIAL basis at that.* I have a better suggestion, maybe the $300,000 suppossed funds for the Serbia tournament sponsorship should just be given to DLSU!* Hahahaha that would really be putting their money where their mouths are. Ang yabang yabang nila mag-announce about the Universaide representation, eh, di pa pala member sa FISU.* Just like offering up something they did not have and could not have ever delivered.*

Again, a lesson from all of this is for the SBP to show its leadership by coming up with guidelines which would govern ALL tournaments and leagues under its wings regarding prizes for the winning teams.* Also, some heads MUST role.*

P.S. Include the Star columnist too while you're at it.

GreenArrows
03-24-2009, 10:52 AM
LION, I would just like to add that this becoming an issue between green and blue can not be avoided. Note, had the red or blue won the PCC, it is not unreasonable for many of us to feel that blues Eala and Capistrano would have moved quicker and even heaven and hell just to please their boss MVP who we all know is an alumnus of both the red and the blue.

Again, this may not be the case but this is a perception which can not be avoided specially due to the intense rivalry both the green and blues have with each other. I just thank the heavens there is no green and red rivalry though some provocateurs would want to create one.

PEACE to you and all hardcore hardcourt fans out there. All we are fighting for is the truth and for the truth to be delivered. nothing more and nothing less.

The_Big_Cat
03-24-2009, 10:54 AM
Former SBP executive director Pato Gregorio resigned from his post last year. This is because of his failure to get clearance from the Nigerian basketball federation to allow Sam Ekwe to play as an import for the Harbour Centre-Pilipinas team for the Seaba Champions Cup.

In the same manner, dapat ganun din sa nangyaring controversy dito. Dapat may managot sa iskandalong ito.

GreenArrows
03-24-2009, 11:01 AM
Former SBP executive director Pato Gregorio resigned from his post last year. This is because of his failure to get clearance from the Nigerian basketball federation to allow Sam Ekwe to play as an import for the Harbour Centre-Pilipinas team for the Seaba Champions Cup.

In the same manner, dapat ganun din sa nangyaring controversy dito. Dapat may managot sa iskandalong ito.

At least, Pato did not hide the fact he failed at what he was suppose to do regarding the Ekwe issue. AND as a true gentlemen that he is, he resigned as Exec. Director to show that he owned up to the error and his resignation was his way to make amends. Pato, through that act, should his good upbringing. No wonder he still works under MVP in PLDT, or is it Smart?

pio_valenz
03-24-2009, 11:09 AM
^Smart. He is head of Smart Sports.

On topic, MVP should definitely hold people accountable for this mess, and I'm sure he will. My bigger concern is the future of the PCC itself. I really hope it can still become THE national basketball championship it was envisioned to be. And I hope that all top schools will still participate later this year.

GreenArrows
03-24-2009, 11:17 AM
^Smart. He is head of Smart Sports.

On topic, MVP should definitely hold people accountable for this mess, and I'm sure he will. My bigger concern is the future of the PCC itself. I really hope it can still become THE national basketball championship it was envisioned to be. And I hope that all top schools will still participate later this year.

The PCC can still be saved. But it will take all the credibility left in the SBP to do so. Again, rules are needed regarding prizes of tournaments and leagues and only the SBP can come up with them and implement them. That's the leadership we are all looking for. Also, heads should roll.

If I can be assured the PCC will no longer become the circus it has become after last year's tournament, I on a personal level and with APcom, will still push for participation. But only if the prizes to be given are already placed with third party trustees. Again, if it reforms and seems to be the ULTIMATE COLLEGIATE CHAMPIONSHIP, I am hopeful to convince DLSU to join even if only for the title and the trophy.

Kaso, get that immoral person out of the picture all together. He screwed this up big time.

nel
03-24-2009, 11:26 AM
If heads do not roll, the credibility and integrity of the SBP will be adversely affected. Something as high profile as this cannot be swept under the rug. Incompetence at the NSA level is inexcusable.

MVP did not get to his position as a corporate leader by allowing incompetent people to last long in his organizations. His action or inaction on this matter will be an indication of the future of Philippine basketball.

pio_valenz
03-24-2009, 11:27 AM
^^It's not just La Salle, GA, although I can totally understand your reluctance to participate. What if other schools, after seeing how you were taken for a ride as Franz aptly put it, decide that this tournament is a farce and also decide not to join?

Big time damage was really done. Let's all do what we can to make sure the SBP holds those accountable and metes the proper punishment.

GreenArrows
03-24-2009, 11:33 AM
Pio, if DLSU joins to defend it title even AFTER this whole mess, trust me, the other schools will still join.* To them, it will be like if DLSU still trusts PCC after Eala and the SBP screwed the whole thing up, then perhaps the PCC is still worth playing in.

Besides, everyone wants to get their piece of us, right? ;D ;D :D :D :D Just kidding.

TellTell
03-24-2009, 12:09 PM
Excerpts from the latest article of Quinito Henson (Sporting Chance) in the Star (3/24/09):

SECOND PARAGRAPH - *In a letter to UAAP secretary-general Junjun Capistrano dated last March 18, sports department manager Michal Buchel of the Universiade governing body FISU (Federation Internationale du Sport Universitaire) said the Philippines could not be accommodated because it is not a FISU member country and there were over 30 applications for only 26 slots.

A very important note was omitted here by Mr Henson (deliberately or not). *Mr. Buchel said that "only FISU member association can participate with the team sports" -- i will explain this relevance later.


FOURTH PARAGRAPH - Capistrano said he was not aware of the membership requirement and in good faith, paid the basketball team’s entry fee of $5,000.

Mr Capistrano is not aware of the membership requirement? And he calls himself the *the Philippine representative in the Universiade governing body Federation Internationale du Sport Universitaire (FISU)? Hmmmmm.....

FIFTH PARAGRAPH - “The UAAP represented the Philippines and was granted membership to the Asian University Sports Federation during its meeting in Shenzhen, China, on July 16, 2007,” said Capistrano. “Right after that, in Shenzhen itself, we submitted our application for membership to the FISU.”

Very clear!!! Mr. Capistrano submitted the application for membership to the FISU. But that's about it. Has the membership application then been accepted by FISU? *Naa-ah. At least not yet. *Mr. Capistrano knows that so how come he allowed the PCC Organizers to announce that the PCC Champions will be sent to Belgrade. Sheezzz...

SIXTH and SEVENTH PARAGRAPH - Capistrano said there is no provision in the FISU charter stipulating membership as a requirement to participate and pointed out that in the Bangkok Universiade two years ago, the Philippines competed in fencing, swimming, shooting and taekwondo.

Capistrano also mentioned in Serbia, the Philippine Taekwondo Association is sending a full force of 24 jins.

SPIN SPIN SPIN!!!! Very true Mr. Capistrano but you omitted to say one thing that Mr. Buchel said....let me write it again ..."only FISU member association can participate with the team sports". *Fencing, Swimming, Shooting and Taekwondo are not team sports. *

NINTH PARAGRAPH - Capistrano said he was encouraged by the FISU secretary-general, a Belgian, to send a basketball team to Serbia during the Universiade in 2007.

Encouraged? *So if anyone is encouraged to join the Universiade, does that automatically mean he is already considered a participant and you can shout to the whole world that you will be participating in Belgrad? Cm'On. *You should know better than that Mr. Capistrano... Oh, i forgot, you don't know the rules... Thats explains it.

TENTH PARAGRAPH - “We were even told there could be funding for our team from FISU,” related Capistrano. “I remember the secretary-general telling me he played against Robert Jaworski at the Tokyo Universiade in 1967. But sponsors shied away from Serbia because of the civil unrest and the secretary-general was eventually replaced.”

Huh? So what? *You may have all the funds but if you are not qualified to join the Universiade, then you are not.

ELEVENTH to THIRTEENTH PARAGRAPH - Capistrano made an impassioned appeal for Buchel to reconsider the Philippines’ position.

“We realize (our participation in 1967) was some time ago and maybe the provision of being a FISU member association was not yet in place,” wrote Capistrano. “But if it were, then perhaps, the UAAP was either a member organization then or an exception was granted to the UAAP so that we could participate.”

Capistrano even dropped FISU president George Killian’s name in an attempt to get Buchel’s attention but to no avail.

This is Philippine Politics at its worst.... "impassioned appeal"? - rules are rules. *Maybe Mr. Capistrano is used to bending the rules, but such will not work on organizations that are straight and credible. 1967?? wow, how low can we go with our reasoning. Name dropping? *Nuff' Said.

FOURTEENTH PARAGRAPH - “If FISU has enough countries that fulfilled their obligations, (it) is absolutely logical to prefer those which are member associations,” reasoned Buchel. “That was the reason and due to this fact, I replied to your email. We had over 30 teams (applying) from member associations and it will be not fair to select for the draw a country which is a non-member association. I hope that in the future, you become a full member of FISU and you will be able to participate.”

This proves that we were never in the running. *Our non-participation was never a question. *Why then was the participation in the Universiade in Belgrade offered as a prize to the PCC Champions in the first place? *Was this just offered by the PCC Organizers just because? *Or did someone tell the PCC Organizers to offer such. *Until now, no one is taking responsibility. *Why? Are they protecting there 'credibility'? What credibility?!

FIFTEENTH TO THE NINETEENTH PARAGRAPHS - *SPIN SPIN SPIN!!!!!!! *

TWENTIETH *PARAGRAPH - *Clearly, there were sincere efforts by Capistrano to save the Serbia trip for La Salle but it just wasn’t meant to be. Who would’ve expected more than 30 countries expressing interest to join the basketball event in Serbia?

Mr. Henson --- Im quite disappointed with your analysis of the situation. *Sure, you are entitled to you own opinion, but at least, as a respected journalist, -- i just hope you wont be too obvious with your biases. *Sincere effort??? Sincere Effort my a**. *Negligent may be a better description. *Mr. Capistrano already knew first hand that we never had a sure slot in the basketball tournament in Belgrade. *Oh, that's right, he did not coz he did not know the rules...

TWENTY SECOND PARAGRAPH - Capistrano said no matter what, the promise will be kept only it won’t be a trip to Serbia but somewhere else where the reward is commensurate.

Mr. Capistrano has no right to impose another foreign tournament to La Salle. *The Prize promised was the Belgrade Tournament. *No ifs no buts. *So, Mr. Capistrano, why don't you be man enough and admit your mistakes and offer La Salle two choose any one of two options: First, give La Salle the entire amount budgeted for the Belgrade Tournament; and Second - offer them an alternative foreign tournament to attend (and not impose).


TWENTY THIRD PARAGRAPH - Meanwhile, there’s a growing sentiment along Taft Avenue the Archers are being taken for a ride – which is an understandable reaction even if unfair.

Mr. Henson, you could have stopped with 'understandable reaction'. Unfair? You should know better than to say this.

LAST PARAGRAPH - Whether or not Atayde is right in blaming whichever entity, the bottom line is the promise to La Salle remains an empty one at the moment.

Mr. Henson, so you still are not convinced that Mr. Atayde is right? So who do you think should be blamed?

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Excerpts from an earlier HENSON Article: No broken promise
SPORTING CHANCE By Joaquin M. Henson Updated March 10, 2009

"But Jose (Junjun) Capistrano, who is the Philippine representative in the Universiade governing body Federation Internationale du Sport Universitaire (FISU), yesterday assured arrangements for the trip are in progress. From all indications, the trip is a go. The only hitch is if FISU thumbs down La Salle’s participation which, said Capistrano, is unlikely."

"Capistrano said 24 slots are available in basketball and if there are over 24 applicants, FISU will choose the entries. Paying the $5,000 participation fee, however, should guarantee the Archers a slot."

“The Philippines was invited to send a basketball team to Serbia because the FISU secretary-general at that time knew of our love for the game,” said Capistrano. “With that in mind, I mentioned it to the SBP Board and since Rey (Gamboa) is also in the Board, we thought of offering the opportunity to the PCCL champion.”

SO WHO IS TO BLAME NOW??

BigBlue
03-25-2009, 01:42 AM
LION, I would just like to add that this becoming an issue between green and blue can not be avoided.* Note, had the red or blue won the PCC, it is not unreasonable for many of us to feel that blues Eala and Capistrano would have moved quicker and even heaven and hell just to please their boss MVP who we all know is an alumnus of both the red and the blue.

Again, this may not be the case but this is a perception which can not be avoided specially due to the intense rivalry both the green and blues have with each other.* I just thank the heavens there is no green and red rivalry though some provocateurs would want to create one.

PEACE to you and all hardcore hardcourt fans out there.* All we are fighting for is the truth and for the truth to be delivered.* nothing more and nothing less.


wait, doesnt Noli Eala also have roots in La Salle?

GreenArrows
03-25-2009, 05:40 AM
Maybe but when he got disbarred for the reason that was cited by the Supreme Court, he shed any vestiges of his greeen AND blue roots. Like I told LION, the green and blue coloring of this issue can not be avoided as many times, perception far exceeds reality.*


P.S. I think your avatar is really kewl.

pooty tang
03-27-2009, 11:37 AM
Excerpts from the latest article of Quinito Henson (Sporting Chance) in the Star (3/24/09):

SECOND PARAGRAPH - *In a letter to UAAP secretary-general Junjun Capistrano dated last March 18, sports department manager Michal Buchel of the Universiade governing body FISU (Federation Internationale du Sport Universitaire) said the Philippines could not be accommodated because it is not a FISU member country and there were over 30 applications for only 26 slots.

A very important note was omitted here by Mr Henson (deliberately or not). *Mr. Buchel said that "only FISU member association can participate with the team sports" -- i will explain this relevance later.

FOURTH PARAGRAPH - Capistrano said he was not aware of the membership requirement and in good faith, paid the basketball team’s entry fee of $5,000.

Mr Capistrano is not aware of the membership requirement? And he calls himself the *the Philippine representative in the Universiade governing body Federation Internationale du Sport Universitaire (FISU)? Hmmmmm.....

FIFTH PARAGRAPH - “The UAAP represented the Philippines and was granted membership to the Asian University Sports Federation during its meeting in Shenzhen, China, on July 16, 2007,” said Capistrano. “Right after that, in Shenzhen itself, we submitted our application for membership to the FISU.”

Very clear!!! Mr. Capistrano submitted the application for membership to the FISU. But that's about it. Has the membership application then been accepted by FISU? *Naa-ah. At least not yet. *Mr. Capistrano knows that so how come he allowed the PCC Organizers to announce that the PCC Champions will be sent to Belgrade. Sheezzz...

SIXTH and SEVENTH PARAGRAPH - Capistrano said there is no provision in the FISU charter stipulating membership as a requirement to participate and pointed out that in the Bangkok Universiade two years ago, the Philippines competed in fencing, swimming, shooting and taekwondo.

Capistrano also mentioned in Serbia, the Philippine Taekwondo Association is sending a full force of 24 jins.

SPIN SPIN SPIN!!!! Very true Mr. Capistrano but you omitted to say one thing that Mr. Buchel said....let me write it again ..."only FISU member association can participate with the team sports". *Fencing, Swimming, Shooting and Taekwondo are not team sports. *

NINTH PARAGRAPH - Capistrano said he was encouraged by the FISU secretary-general, a Belgian, to send a basketball team to Serbia during the Universiade in 2007.

Encouraged? *So if anyone is encouraged to join the Universiade, does that automatically mean he is already considered a participant and you can shout to the whole world that you will be participating in Belgrad? Cm'On. *You should know better than that Mr. Capistrano... Oh, i forgot, you don't know the rules... Thats explains it.

TENTH PARAGRAPH - “We were even told there could be funding for our team from FISU,” related Capistrano. “I remember the secretary-general telling me he played against Robert Jaworski at the Tokyo Universiade in 1967. But sponsors shied away from Serbia because of the civil unrest and the secretary-general was eventually replaced.”

Huh? So what? *You may have all the funds but if you are not qualified to join the Universiade, then you are not.

ELEVENTH to THIRTEENTH PARAGRAPH - Capistrano made an impassioned appeal for Buchel to reconsider the Philippines’ position.

“We realize (our participation in 1967) was some time ago and maybe the provision of being a FISU member association was not yet in place,” wrote Capistrano. “But if it were, then perhaps, the UAAP was either a member organization then or an exception was granted to the UAAP so that we could participate.”

Capistrano even dropped FISU president George Killian’s name in an attempt to get Buchel’s attention but to no avail.

This is Philippine Politics at its worst.... "impassioned appeal"? - rules are rules. *Maybe Mr. Capistrano is used to bending the rules, but such will not work on organizations that are straight and credible. 1967?? wow, how low can we go with our reasoning. Name dropping? *Nuff' Said.

FOURTEENTH PARAGRAPH - “If FISU has enough countries that fulfilled their obligations, (it) is absolutely logical to prefer those which are member associations,” reasoned Buchel. “That was the reason and due to this fact, I replied to your email. We had over 30 teams (applying) from member associations and it will be not fair to select for the draw a country which is a non-member association. I hope that in the future, you become a full member of FISU and you will be able to participate.”

This proves that we were never in the running. *Our non-participation was never a question. *Why then was the participation in the Universiade in Belgrade offered as a prize to the PCC Champions in the first place? *Was this just offered by the PCC Organizers just because? *Or did someone tell the PCC Organizers to offer such. *Until now, no one is taking responsibility. *Why? Are they protecting there 'credibility'? What credibility?!

FIFTEENTH TO THE NINETEENTH PARAGRAPHS - *SPIN SPIN SPIN!!!!!!! *

TWENTIETH *PARAGRAPH - *Clearly, there were sincere efforts by Capistrano to save the Serbia trip for La Salle but it just wasn’t meant to be. Who would’ve expected more than 30 countries expressing interest to join the basketball event in Serbia?

Mr. Henson --- Im quite disappointed with your analysis of the situation. *Sure, you are entitled to you own opinion, but at least, as a respected journalist, -- i just hope you wont be too obvious with your biases. *Sincere effort??? Sincere Effort my a**. *Negligent may be a better description. *Mr. Capistrano already knew first hand that we never had a sure slot in the basketball tournament in Belgrade. *Oh, that's right, he did not coz he did not know the rules...

TWENTY SECOND PARAGRAPH - Capistrano said no matter what, the promise will be kept only it won’t be a trip to Serbia but somewhere else where the reward is commensurate.

Mr. Capistrano has no right to impose another foreign tournament to La Salle. *The Prize promised was the Belgrade Tournament. *No ifs no buts. *So, Mr. Capistrano, why don't you be man enough and admit your mistakes and offer La Salle two choose any one of two options: First, give La Salle the entire amount budgeted for the Belgrade Tournament; and Second - offer them an alternative foreign tournament to attend (and not impose).


TWENTY THIRD PARAGRAPH - Meanwhile, there’s a growing sentiment along Taft Avenue the Archers are being taken for a ride – which is an understandable reaction even if unfair.

Mr. Henson, you could have stopped with 'understandable reaction'. Unfair? You should know better than to say this.

LAST PARAGRAPH - Whether or not Atayde is right in blaming whichever entity, the bottom line is the promise to La Salle remains an empty one at the moment.

Mr. Henson, so you still are not convinced that Mr. Atayde is right? So who do you think should be blamed?

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Excerpts from an earlier HENSON Article: No broken promise
SPORTING CHANCE By Joaquin M. Henson Updated March 10, 2009

"But Jose (Junjun) Capistrano, who is the Philippine representative in the Universiade governing body Federation Internationale du Sport Universitaire (FISU), yesterday assured arrangements for the trip are in progress. From all indications, the trip is a go. The only hitch is if FISU thumbs down La Salle’s participation which, said Capistrano, is unlikely."

"Capistrano said 24 slots are available in basketball and if there are over 24 applicants, FISU will choose the entries. Paying the $5,000 participation fee, however, should guarantee the Archers a slot."

“The Philippines was invited to send a basketball team to Serbia because the FISU secretary-general at that time knew of our love for the game,” said Capistrano. “With that in mind, I mentioned it to the SBP Board and since Rey (Gamboa) is also in the Board, we thought of offering the opportunity to the PCCL champion.”

SO WHO IS TO BLAME NOW??








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