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easter
09-30-2009, 08:18 PM
if indeed Japeth has made a violation, then give Japeth the appropriate sanction even if it means banning him from life in playing in the PBA. I also have no problem if they say that Japeth should be barred from joining SMART GILAS in its PBA participation because if it is the prerogative of the PBA being the hosts. They could even declare Japeth persona non grata in all live PBA games if they want. But for Alvarez to say that Japeth should not be allowed even in scrimmages is going to far and making pasaring to the SBP about the PBA's support is something that's already overboard as if utang na loob ng SBP that the PBA is joining this charity event.

I do agree Burger King has been shortchanged with Japeth's decision not to sign-up with the team. But why up to this time Burger King has not filed a formal complaint to the PBA, that is what is keeping Commissioner Sonny Barrios and the PBA Board from making an official decision and announcement regarding this controversy.


Tama ka sir nardy. Siguro they can't give Japeth their desired sanction of being banned kasi they will be violating their own rules sa PBA na sit-out lang yung player for one year and then negotiations ulit.

So kung ayaw na talaga ni Japeth sa PBA di na siya pwede maglaro or magpraktis man lang sa SBP? Parang di naman ata tama ito.

oca
10-01-2009, 04:23 AM
May ugali talaga itong mga taga-PBA sa hanay ng kinabibilangan ni Alvarez na dumaldal. Eto na naman at nagbitaw na naman ng salita sa public si Alvarez na di na raw sila papayag na sumali si Japeth sa praktis ng NT pagkatapos ng darating na charity game.

Yung bang "rights" nila sa isang player, na nakuha sa pamamagitan ng draft, ay sumasaklaw sa karapatan ng isang player na panatilihin at pagbutihin ang kakayahan niya sa paglalaro?

Pinipilit nila si Japeth to "come to terms". Eh, ayaw nga eh!

Yung bang ma-draft ka ay may kasamang "involuntary servitude"?

The PBA rules has provisions to address matters regarding drafted players who cannot come to terms with the team who picked them.

Can a PBA team unilaterally take action on matters like this? Can they do something not provided by the league's own rules or without the sanction of the PBA Board?

What personality does Alvarez or BK has to make representations to the SBP? It is the PBA who is a stakeholder in the SBP, hindi ang BK.

May pagkakamali si Japeth nang di niya tinupad ang ano mang pinagkasunduan bago maganap ang draft. But this has to be dealt within the league's own rules. Not beyond it. Not outside of it. If what is stipulated does not meet the satisfaction of BK, then it has to make a formal plea to the PBA Board to address the matter. Hindi yung gagawin na lang nila yung maisipan nila.

Pero mabuti na rin itong tuluyan nang ginipit ng BK si Japeth, a resolution should happen soon. Then, matatapos na itong katarantaduhan at kalokohang lumalabas sa bibig ni Alvarez.

korn666333
10-03-2009, 03:21 PM
Fight Mars Scrimmage Between Smart Gilas and Talk 'N Text


source: Rick Olivares | Bleachersbrew

If there was a storm brewing outside last Friday, there was one that hit inside the Moro Lorenzo Sports Center at the Ateneo de Manila University. Smart Gilas Pilipinas engaged pro ball club Talk ‘N Text in a scrimmage when Tropang Texter Ranidel De Ocampo began throwing punches at the national’s Chester Jarrel Giles, the former Los Angeles Laker draftee who is a candidate for naturalization.

Talk ‘N Text, down by 10 points at that point in the 2nd Quarter was getting frustrated because they could not score down low with Giles and Japeth Aguilar swatting shots left and right. In one rebound play, Giles and De Ocampo got entangled with the latter emerging from the pile and throwing punches. Three other Tropang Texters – Jared Dillinger, Ali Peek, and Mac Cardona – joined the fray before cooler heads intervened. The incident happened in from of Talk N Text’s bench.

Both squads have telecommunications mogul Manuel V. Pangilinan as their sponsor. The two clubs have been practicing together for several months now with the National Coach Rajko Toroman helping the pro team adapt to their style of play.

The two teams have played one another several times with the pro club having been on the losing end. “It’s an unfortunate incident,” said Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas Executive Director Emmanuel Eala. “But it was patched up.”

Sources say that the four pro players ganged up Giles while all others were stunned. Talk ‘N Text claim that Giles threw the first punch but video taken by the SBP showed otherwise.

The match was discontinued and the two players were made to meet at halfcourt by their two coaches and patch things up. But a Talk ‘N Text official who refused to be named said, “This is just Talk ‘N Text. Imagine when they meet up with Powerade.”

Other Tropang Texters team officials did not return BUSINESS MIRROR’s text messages.

The two national squads are set to meet up this coming Monday, October 5 for the charity game “Pinoy Basketbol Kakampi Ninyo” which is for the benefit of Typhoon Ondoy victims.

Aguilar, the controversial Number One Draft Pick who has spurned Burger King the team that selected him will be donning the national colors for the game. His Powerade coach, Yeng Guiao, also the mentor for Burger King will be calling the shots for the match.

“I like to think that everyone will be professional enough because this game is for charity,” added Eala. “I don’t think anyone is going to back down from a good thing.”

Said one Gilas player, “Sayang. We looked up to them (Talk ‘N Text) as big brothers practicing with them from the start, idolizing them on television. Nakakawalang respeto.”

Whether the two clubs separate their practice sessions now is unclear.

Smart Gilas will be playing Alaska and San Miguel in tune-up games next week before their stint in the Philippine Basketball Association begins.

A few months earlier, it was the Powerade team that figured in a near free-for-all in a tune up match with the Lebanese National Team. Coincidentally, heavy rains also hit the country then.

korn666333
10-03-2009, 03:24 PM
Fight Mars Scrimmage Between Smart Gilas and Talk 'N Text


source: Rick Olivares | Bleachersbrew

If there was a storm brewing outside last Friday, there was one that hit inside the Moro Lorenzo Sports Center at the Ateneo de Manila University. Smart Gilas Pilipinas engaged pro ball club Talk ‘N Text in a scrimmage when Tropang Texter Ranidel De Ocampo began throwing punches at the national’s Chester Jarrel Giles, the former Los Angeles Laker draftee who is a candidate for naturalization.

Talk ‘N Text, down by 10 points at that point in the 2nd Quarter was getting frustrated because they could not score down low with Giles and Japeth Aguilar swatting shots left and right. In one rebound play, Giles and De Ocampo got entangled with the latter emerging from the pile and throwing punches. Three other Tropang Texters – Jared Dillinger, Ali Peek, and Mac Cardona – joined the fray before cooler heads intervened. The incident happened in from of Talk N Text’s bench.

Both squads have telecommunications mogul Manuel V. Pangilinan as their sponsor. The two clubs have been practicing together for several months now with the National Coach Rajko Toroman helping the pro team adapt to their style of play.

The two teams have played one another several times with the pro club having been on the losing end. “It’s an unfortunate incident,” said Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas Executive Director Emmanuel Eala. “But it was patched up.”

Sources say that the four pro players ganged up Giles while all others were stunned. Talk ‘N Text claim that Giles threw the first punch but video taken by the SBP showed otherwise.

The match was discontinued and the two players were made to meet at halfcourt by their two coaches and patch things up. But a Talk ‘N Text official who refused to be named said, “This is just Talk ‘N Text. Imagine when they meet up with Powerade.”

Other Tropang Texters team officials did not return BUSINESS MIRROR’s text messages.

The two national squads are set to meet up this coming Monday, October 5 for the charity game “Pinoy Basketbol Kakampi Ninyo” which is for the benefit of Typhoon Ondoy victims.

Aguilar, the controversial Number One Draft Pick who has spurned Burger King the team that selected him will be donning the national colors for the game. His Powerade coach, Yeng Guiao, also the mentor for Burger King will be calling the shots for the match.

“I like to think that everyone will be professional enough because this game is for charity,” added Eala. “I don’t think anyone is going to back down from a good thing.”

Said one Gilas player, “Sayang. We looked up to them (Talk ‘N Text) as big brothers practicing with them from the start, idolizing them on television. Nakakawalang respeto.”

Whether the two clubs separate their practice sessions now is unclear.

Smart Gilas will be playing Alaska and San Miguel in tune-up games next week before their stint in the Philippine Basketball Association begins.

A few months earlier, it was the Powerade team that figured in a near free-for-all in a tune up match with the Lebanese National Team. Coincidentally, heavy rains also hit the country then.


nakakahiya ang mga PBA teams. i thought they were that professional. kung di makascore then di dapat mapikon.
PBA nakakahiya kayo sa pinas, sa ginawa ng mga players nyo para nyo na ring flag ng pinas ang ginulpi niyo.

D_I_A
10-03-2009, 04:56 PM
wth! i hope cooler minds prevail every tune up game.

korn666333
10-03-2009, 05:00 PM
talonan kasi bwahahah...sarap tingnan giles and aguilar twin tower!lalo na pag mag improve na!

cub
10-03-2009, 07:57 PM
What's new for R. De Ocampo? ever since naman ganyan na yan.

crazybedan
10-03-2009, 08:14 PM
ipapalabas ba sa tv ang game sa monday? kahit delayed telecast man lang?

korn666333
10-04-2009, 06:08 PM
ipapalabas ba sa tv ang game sa monday? kahit delayed telecast man lang?


uu palabas yan sa btv and cs9.

zytrexx
10-05-2009, 11:11 PM
Nasa jersey nila "Team Pilipinas" tapos may flag sa Pinas at logo ng PBA, wala namang fighting spirit and pride ang mga players na to...nagpapatalo sa mga bata....nagdadahilan pa sila na wala daw si Jayjay...

It only comes to show that team play always win over individual one-on-one plays

D_I_A
10-05-2009, 11:52 PM
Congrats to RP-Smart Gilas Team!!!

bangis
10-05-2009, 11:55 PM
Great game SMART GILAS NATIONAL TEAM! Parang napahiya sa inyo Powerade team.

Special mention to Giles, Japeth, Casio and Jason Ballesteros for not backing down from the physicality of the game.

D_I_A
10-06-2009, 12:02 AM
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Smart Gilas routs Powerade-Pilipinas in charity game
10/05/2009 | 10:54 PM

The Smart Gilas team of Serbian coach Rajko Toroman has served notice of its readiness to play in the Philippine Basketball Association.

And they showed it by beating the country’s cream of the crop.

Relying not on anyone but everyone, Smart Gilas easily demolished an out-of-shape and undermanned Powerade-Pilipinas team, 98-69, Monday in the “Pinoy Basketball, Kakampi N’yo" fund-raising game at the Araneta Coliseum.

CJ Giles and Japeth Aguilar combined forces in possibly the most formidable frontline in Philippine basketball. Andy Barroca and JV Casio alternately played the point and held their own against their more experienced counterparts. And Dylan Ababou, Aldrech Ramos and Jason Ballesteros did a little bit of everything in handing Smart Gilas an easy triumph.

Powerade-Pilipinas slotman Sonny Thoss, right, harasses Smart-Gilas guard Chris Tiu during Monday’s `Pinoy Basketball, Kakampi Nyo’ fund-raising game at the Araneta Coliseum. GMANews.TV
It was a game dominated by Toroman’s wards majority of the way.

They were only feeling their way around in the first few minutes of the first period, trailing by seven, 7-14, with James Yap and Willie Miller leading the way for Powerade.

Then came a big scoring outburst by Smart Gilas.

Giles and Aguilar made their presence felt inside and JV Casio fired a trey to cap off a big 17-5 exchange as the all-amateur team seized a 24-19 lead at the end of the first.

It was all Smart Gilas from there, leading by as many as 20 points twice in the third canto.

And with Giles and Chris Tiu combining for a one scintillating play to complete an alley-oop slam and push Smart Gilas to a 92-76 lead with only 2:16 left, the curtains finally fell on the all-pro Powerade-Pilipinas five, which didn’t have the chance of practicing since its eighth-place finish in the last FIBA Asia Championship.

Overall, Smart Gilas outplayed Powerade in almost all fronts.

Toroman’s troops shot the ball decently, making 37 of 78 attempts for a 47% clip, while Powerade struggled all game long and shot only 34%.

Smart Gilas, as expected, played better as a team, dishing out 17 assists more than Powerade-Pilipinas.

On rebounds, Giles, Aguilar and Ballesteros were too much as they terrorized the shaded lane and clobbered their rivals. Smart Gilas grabbed 60 rebounds to only 36 by Powerade.

Former Los Angeles Laker Giles finished with 22 points, 16 rebounds and five shot blocks for Smart Gilas, which will play as a guest team in the coming PBA wars. Aguilar, the controversial top overall pick who previously suited up for Powerade-RP, had 24 points and four rebounds.

A project of basketball stockholders in the country led by the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas and the PBA, the game was held for the benefit of victims of tropical storm “Ondoy" and in memory of Barako Bull executive Tony Chua, who perished at the height of the storm.

crazybedan
10-06-2009, 12:35 AM
handa na ba kayo sa mga excuses ni yeng? simula palang meron na tsk tsk grats Smart Gilas....

nike should stop selling powerade team pinas jersey's. they should sell Smart Gilas apparels instead ;D

A-boy97
10-06-2009, 01:29 AM
Mukhang adidas magiging sponsor ng Smart-Gilas! ;D

easter
10-06-2009, 07:13 AM
Ang galing ng Smart Gilas. I really think that playing in the PBA will not do them much good at this point and will actually stunt their growth since they will use professional rules and will not get used to playing against taller opponents.. it is better for them to go out and play in international tournaments.

I am appealing to Lito Alvarez to finally settle the Aguilar issue. Baka naman may ibang paraan kasi it will be a big loss to our international campaign if Aguilar is not made to practice.

Great game by everybody. Ballesteros even held his own against Asi Taulava!

I am now a fan of this team.

animo
10-06-2009, 09:32 AM
Galing ni Japeth. pang international competition talaga. may shooting pa sa labas.
kaya naman ayaw pakawalan ng BK.

Joescoundrel
10-06-2009, 11:02 AM
6'11" American import CJ Giles and 6'10" homegrown US NCAA player Japeth Aguilar led Smart Gilas in making short work of the all-Pro Powerade Team Pilipinas 98 - 69. Both players showed a variety of slick moves and good shots including a cornucopia of dunks to completely outplay the grizzled PBA veterans. Giles' first and last field goals were both off thunderous two-handed alley-oops. Aguilar had a steal and a two-handed dunk on a long takeoff midway through the third period.

Smart Gilas employed a simple enough set of staggered screens and quick ball reversal to stay toe to toe with the stronger and heftier PBA side. Down as much as 7-14 early in the first period, it looked like Gilas would be unable to compete with the battle-tested pros. Giles and Aguilar however started waxing hot as guards Chris Tiu and JV Casio found them off the high pick and roll. An Aguilar trey gave Gilas its first lead of the game at 21-19. Powerade would be unable to come back from there. Gilas took the 24-29 lead at the end of the first period, then a 49-36 bubble into the lemon time break.

Mac Baracael and Dylan Ababou then teamed with Mark Barroca to further bolster the Gilas lead to as much as 67-48 late into the third period. Baracael got going in transition while Ababou found the range from three-point land. Barroca, who struggled against the beefier Powerade guards in the first half, found ways to slip through the seams in the Powerade match-up zone.

Powerade threatened with a small rally to come within 56-68 early in the fourth period. PBA MVP winners Willie Miller and James Yap and Jared Dillinger were finding the range in transition and on the long ball. But Jason Ballesteros and Aldrech Ramos came off the bench to combine on both ends to hold off the PBA rally. Two long Ramos jumpers made it 72-58. Ballesteros held his own versus the massive Taulava on the defensive end, while also grabbing three straight offensive boards to help Gilas recycle their offense.

In the end it was all about superior teamwork and execution. As the out of shape PBA side relied mainly on one-on-one plays to try and make a game of it, the Gilas side went to basic basketball, working the baselines, using good strong screens, crisp passing, and intelligent shot selesction combined with vastly superior athletic ability.

"It was a good game for the young ones, and a huge wakeup call to the pros," said one veteran sports writer after the unexpected rout.

"When you said Gilas would pull this out, I never even expected they'd massacre the PBA guys this badly," added a top sports wear executive.

"Overall the whole event was a success, and we were able to raise a lot of help for the typhoon victims, which is the real bottomline of this event, and we thank all the fans and people who made this a success," declared Smart Sports boss Patrick Gregorio.

In basketball terms though, here is the real bottomline: Smart Gilas has arrived.






Gameface is Philippine Basketball

CrossOver
10-06-2009, 11:57 AM
Napanood ko din yun laro sa TV & I'm rooting for Smart Gilas ang ganda ng pasahan nila thats European Brand of Play manonood lang ako PBA if me laro sila, napuna ko din yung mga tao na nood ng live every time na me papaltan na player nagpapalakpakan sila ;D

korn666333
10-06-2009, 12:28 PM
Napanood ko din yun laro sa TV & I'm rooting for Smart Gilas ang ganda ng pasahan nila thats European Brand of Play manonood lang ako PBA if me laro sila, napuna ko din yung mga tao na nood ng live every time na me papaltan na player nagpapalakpakan sila ;D


pareho tau tol, wew proud talga ako sa smart gilas

gienecees
10-06-2009, 02:25 PM
Napanood ko din yun laro sa TV & I'm rooting for Smart Gilas ang ganda ng pasahan nila thats European Brand of Play manonood lang ako PBA if me laro sila, napuna ko din yung mga tao na nood ng live every time na me papaltan na player nagpapalakpakan sila ;D


pareho tau tol, wew proud talga ako sa smart gilas


I was there last night, di lang palakpakan, kami sa part ng bleacher standing ovation pa, lalo kapag nilalabas si Japeth, Ballesteros, CJ Guiles, Jayvee Casio,Tiu and Andy Barocca. yung mga babae sa likuran nmin kay Chris Tiu lang naka focus, napatingin pa sakin nung sinabi ko sobrang cheezy! nyahahha. Ang sarap panoorin ang mga Alley oops ni Guiles, talagang Standing Ovation! Bravo Gilas! ;D ;D ;D

D_I_A
10-06-2009, 04:08 PM
what we should be considering about all these young lads is that,all of them have decent mid-range shots.

walang tapon, ganda pa mag-execute ng plays,napaka basic at simple, limited flashy moves. talagang di na pinahihirapan ang sarili, pag binibilang nyo kung ilang seconds ang bola sa isang player parang matagal na ang 5 seconds tapos pasa na agad.

talagang nahilo ang PBA Powerade sa mga bata,kahit sa offense yung point guard nasa taas lang,aantayin ang double high pick dun sa mga malalaki, akala mo minsan alam mo na pick and roll ang gagawin yun pala aantayin lang ulit ng playmaker yung bola sa tres sabay tira.

this is what we often see sa international plays, parang European ball or Korean style, na dish out sa three point area ang laro. pero itong plays nila kakaiba, inuulit ulit ko nga sa http://www.ballerstube.net/2009/10/smart-gilas-vs-powerade-team-pilipinas.html
ganda panuorin.

Sana lahat ng coaches ganun na magset up ng laro.

start tayo sa mga PBA, PBL, Liga, UAAP, NCAA at CESAFI para may consistency

digitalsuperman
10-06-2009, 06:38 PM
sapul pareng DIA...

D_I_A
10-07-2009, 09:51 PM
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Smart Gilas officially takes over from Team Pilipinas after an epic 98-69 rout
Written by Rick Olivares / Columnist
Wednesday, 07 October 2009 01:18

“KEEP your feet on the ground.”

Thus intoned Ricky Vargas, the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (SBP) vice president and Philippine Basketball Association board member for Talk ’N Text, inside a happy but not overly exuberant Smart Gilas dugout.

The team broke out in applause. Reminders were made about a practice game against the Philippine Patriots of the Asean Basketball League the following day, not missing school, and other matters. And there was dinner at the gazebo of the Araneta Coliseum.

Smart Gilas was still plenty hungry even after their 98-69 demolition of the all-pro Team Pilipinas that effectively transferred the reigns of leading the country back to its lost basketball glory.

Only the team wasn’t gloating. They were more relieved and excited to begin the next part of their journey. And their hunger pangs needed to be satiated.

After the two-hour match that was interrupted with all sorts of ceremonies, the team went to center court and knelt down to pray. And when they stood up to thank the crowd, they were showered with even greater applause. “They are exciting to watch,” said one fan seated at the patron section. “I’m a believer.”

It must have been a bitter pill for former national coach Yeng Guiao to swallow to see his Team Pilipinas lose badly. But for all the acrimony and controversy, Guiao had the class at the end to shake Gilas coach Rajko Toroman’s hand after the game.

There were all sorts of subplots entering the main game of the “Pinoy Basketbol Kakampi Ninyo” charity game that raised P1.6 million for the victims of Typhoon Ondoy.

There was Guaio and Toroman. The former, a member of the Basketball Coaches Association of the Philippines, has been against the hiring of foreign nationals to coach the national squad. And that included the Serb, in spite of his glowing international credentials.

Toroman offered to scout the opposition for Guiao during the Fiba-Asia Men’s Championship in August but the Burger King mentor rebuffed him and instead asked Ginebra San Miguel taskmaster Jong Uichico to join him in the sidelines in Tianjin, China.

There, too, was Japeth Aguilar, the Burger King’s draft pick who opted out of signing with the PBA ball club. Aguilar played for Guiao at Team Pilipinas and, almost immediately after Tianjin, did an about-face and bolted for Gilas citing a desire to continue to serve the country and help the squad achieve its Olympic dream.

And there was Chester Jarrell Giles, the former Los Angeles Laker draftee who joined the team for its campaign last summer in the Fiba-Asia Champions Challenge Cup in Jakarta, Indonesia. Giles, who is in the process of naturalization in order to play for the country, was mauled during a scrimmage with Talk ’N Text players a few days before the charity game.

Many Gilas players are of the mind that the assault was planned because the incident occurred barely two minutes into the third quarter of their scrimmage. “They quickly entered the court and cordoned us off from reaching Giles,” said one Gilas player who has changed his views on the pro players. “Mukhang nag-usap sila. Nakakawalang respeto.”

Toroman, however, downplayed any tension between the two teams. “It is for charity and I don’t think anyone will run that with the whole country watching. But it will be intense as both teams will want to win.”

The last subplot belonged to Andy Mark Barroca, the former Far Eastern University (FEU) Tamaraw who was removed from the team for allegedly throwing a game. His ouster and subsequent return to full-time duty with Gilas has strained his relationship with his former teammates, including Aldrech Ramos and Ric Cawaling who are also on the national squad.

Barroca ignored them in the dugout but said once they step on the court, it was all business. And true enough, during introductions, he tapped hands with his former Tamaraw teammates. On several occasions, he found them for a pass and a deuce.

Next to cocaptain Chris Tiu, Barroca drew the biggest applause from the Monday evening crowd that filled the patron to the Upper A seats of the venue. When the FEU Pep Squad chanted his name several times during the course of the game, the point guard’s eyes watered.

“Malaking bagay ’yun. Lalo na galing sa FEU ’yan.”

And suddenly it was like old times when the team was in the United States, Serbia and Indonesia. Barroca was balling and lobbing alley-oops to Giles and Aguilar.

That was what Guiao feared—highlight reel slams to get the crowd rocking in their favor. “Siguraduhin niyo na wala silang mga dunk,” he reminded his players before the game.

At first, Team Pilipinas was executing behind the snipings of James Yap and Sonny Thoss. But substituting Jayvee Casio in favor of Barroca in running the offense, Gilas got their act together and pounded the pro players mercilessly.

Gilas ruled the boards, 60-36, with 16 offensive caroms to the 13 of their pro foes. They protected the interior as they swatted eight shots to the lone rejection by Gabe Norwood (I counted at least 10 blocked shots total by Gilas).

Their defense fueled their up-tempo game. They ran when they could and set up their half-court offense that Powerade seemed helpless to stop.

It seemed ridiculous even to the point of unthinkable how Gilas thoroughly dominated the stat sheet (Team Pilipinas only had more steals but that, too, is disputable) even when the PBA referees swallowed their whistles.

In one sequence, Willie Miller, the Alaska Aces’ dynamo of a guard, drilled a shot even with Mac Baracael all over him. “Nice challenge,” said the two-time PBA Most Valuable Player (MVP) by way of trash talking the former Tamaraw.

In truth, there was no challenge, no contest, and no doubt that Gilas is better equipped to battle in the international arena for that elusive Olympic berth. They ruled the airwaves and the ground game.

And the end result spoke volumes.

But that’s for the analysts and hoop junkies to decide.

The young guns…well, they just want to have fun.

“Just like Jakarta,” mused Dylan Ababou, the MVP for the University Athletic Association of the Philippines Season 72. “Na-miss ko ’yung team na ’to.”

If Team Pilipinas was missing the services of Jayjay Helterbrand, Mick Pennisi and Arwind Santos who are all with their mother clubs abroad, so, too, was Smart Gilas which was without Letran’s RJ Jazul and Rey Guevarra and the University of Visayas’ Greg Slaughter. The three are still competing in their respective school’s collegiate campaigns.

Ababou, Ramos and Cawaling just rejoined Gilas and had only one practice with the team. And the only time they played with Aguilar was in April when the team was at the Joe Abunassar Impact Basketball Camp in Las Vegas, Nevada.

Magi Sison, the fourth string center for Gilas who was scratched out of the lineup for Jakarta, was excited to be back with the squad. “Pamilya ko sa Lingayen nanonood. Second family ko [Gilas] nandito. Masaya ’to.”

Team Pilipinas’ Jay-R Reyes was quick to offer his insights on the game and Gilas: “Magaling. Mahusay talaga. Good luck sa kanila. Sana abutin nila.”

“It is one moment,” cautioned Toroman inside the dugout after the match. “We have to enjoy this moment but tomorrow we continue our hard work because our task is very very difficult.”

The journey continues.

The scores:

Smart Gilas Pilipinas 98—Aguilar 24, Giles 22, Baracael 10, Ababou 9, Barroca 8, Casio 8, Tiu 7, Ramos 6, Ballesteros 4, Cawaling 3, Sison 0

Team Pilipinas 69—Yap 17, Dillinger 12, Thoss 9, Miller 9, Raymundo 5, Taulava 5, Arboleda 5, Norwood 3, De Ocampo 2, Baguio 2, Reyes 0

Quarters: 23-19, 49-36, 72-58, 98-69.

D_I_A
10-07-2009, 10:47 PM
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SBP chase of three players still on

By Julius Manicad

10/08/2009



Rabeh Al-Hussaini, Paul Lee and Junmar Fajardo — three collegiate stars high on Rajko Toroman’s wish list — may suit up for Smart Gilas Pilipinas National Team in the PBA Philippine Cup should they reach an agreement with Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (SBP) before the season starts.

According to a reliable SBP insider, the association has included the names of Al-Hussaini, Lee and Fajardo in its 18-man roster, in hopes of signing them up before the new PBA season unfolds on Oct. 11.

Aside from Al-Hussaini, Lee and Fajardo, also included in the final lineup is Japeth Aguilar, the controversial slotman who became the central figure in a bitter tug-of-war between the SBP and Burger King — the team that drafted him in the PBA.

Burger King team manager and SBP executive director Noli Eala were set to meet Tuesday to tackle Aguilar’s case, but the discussion didn’t push though. The source said Alvarez is contemplating on raising the issue before the PBA board of governors should he fail to reach an agreement with Eala.

The PBA board is reportedly ready to slap him with a lifetime ban and bar him from seeing action with Gilas in its 10-game PBA stint.

D_I_A
10-07-2009, 11:36 PM
CHRIS TIU'S BLOG


Why Smart Gilas won over Powerade...

Posted: 06 Oct 2009 09:29 AM PDT


Because of your numerous requests to blog about the Charity game, here it is. But first, let me thank all those who watched the Charity game LIVE at the Araneta and also at home. Of course, it would have been better if you were there live because your ticket purchase would have gone to the victims of the typhoons. Nevertheless, thank you for the support!

When we first heard that we will be playing the Powerade team, we were excited but at the same time somewhat unsure. We're a bunch of players who just finished college (some are still playing for their universities) who will be going up against the legends of Philippine basketball. Right away i thought about who i will be guarding, it was James Yap, a former MVP. I've always enjoyed watching him play. I admire his jumpshots and creativity in making baskets in almost every way. And then there was Willie Miller, Dillinger, Norwood and Baguio. Pretty star-studded.

The last time I played against an RP team was in 2007 when i was still playing for Ateneo. The RP team then was coached by Chot Reyes. We were blown-out by almost 40 points in two quarters. Not a very good memory.

Although it was a charity exhibition game, both teams surely wanted to win. The Gilas team wanted to make a statement that we can compete internationally and that we should be the ones competing abroad now that the Powerade team has served their duty in the last FIBA Asia Champions Cup in August. On the other hand, i'm sure the Powerade team wanted to prove that they are indeed the strongest team in the country today.

Obviously, Powerade didn't really have the chance to brush up on their plays because the players are all practicing with their mother squads in the PBA. Whereas in the Gilas team, at least 6 or 7 of us were able to train regularly for a few months now until the UAAP players (Ababou, Cawaling, Ramos) joined us just last week. But that's exactly the point of the Smart Gilas program: to come up with a national team that trains together all year round in preparation for international competitions.

I think the result of the game yesterday (for those who didn't watch, Gilas won by 29) just vindicates how important playing a team game is compared to doing it individually. I will admit that in terms of individual skill/technique, the Gilas players are still lagging behind to equal that of the Powerade players. One on one, i don't think JV Casio/Barocca can match up with Willie Miller. Cawaling, Ababou and I cannot match up one on one with James Yap either. All the more Ballesteros and Japeth cannot match up with Asi Taulava, Sonny Thoss and Kirby Raymundo. The only reason why we were able to emerge victorious against them yesterday was because of the 'system' of Coach Rajko Toroman. Even defensively, there are strict rules to be followed. Offensively, there's a lot of movement going-on. Lots of screening, cutting and passing, all within the playbook of Coach T. I'm trying not to make it too technical for those who don't really follow basketball . But simply put, there's a strict system that we follow which entails a lot of discipline and paying attention to details. On the other side, Team Powerade had their own sets of plays, which i felt lacked the continuity and mastery. The plays were broken down and ended in a one on one situation. It's definitely no walk in the park for James Yap / Willie Miller to beat 5 players. At times, it broke down to a two-man game with ball screens and hand-offs. I think I heard Quinito Henson mention this as well when i watched the replay of the game, team game vs individual talent.

At the start of the game, we were a bit rusty and kind off starstruck with our opponents which led to many turnovers and bad shots. But slowly, we were able to get into the rhythm of the game.

I'm just very grateful to be given this chance to play under Coach T. What a learning experience!! Like what i said in a previous blog entry, i believe i made the best choice in this decision to play with Smart Gilas under Coach T. I cannot imagine myself playing under another coach or system at this moment. How i wish that Philippine basketball can evolve and adopt his European style and stop copying the NBA, so that we can be competitive internationally. Look how Lebanon, Jordan and Iran (which Coach T led to the Olympics) are now overtaking the old Asian powerhouses like Korea, Philippines, etc. Who would have thought that even China would be blown out by Iran in the Finals game of the FIBA Asia Championships? Sometimes, we just have to lower our pride and egos if we sincerely want to become better. Not necessarily in basketball, but in any facet of our lives.

This is just the beginning of our long journey towards 2011. Thank you to all those who continue to support RP Smart Gilas and I pray that the divisions will seize to exist in Philippine basketball that hinder our country from reaching its full potential.

Chris

D_I_A
10-08-2009, 11:45 PM
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PBA to give way to Smart Gilas in Asian cage meets
10/08/2009 | 08:28 PM

Enough of the old pick-up-system habit, it’s time for a more concrete program for the national basketball team to major Asian basketball tournaments.

The Philippine Basketball Association (PBA) is now mulling the possibility of ceasing to send an all-pro squad to continental competitions and instead give way to a team assembled for the long-term such as Smart Gilas.

“After the benefit game between (the all-pro) Powerade-Pilipinas and Smart Gilas, I was walking to the exit area going to the dugout along with Mr. Manny V. Pangilinan and I told him my thoughts about the game," PBA commissioner Sonny Barrios said during the launch of the league’s 35th season.

"The game showed only one important thing -- that long term preparation is indeed much better than the pickup system of star players (from the PBA)," Barrios added.

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The Smart Gilas squad of Serbian coach Rajko Toroman whipped the unprepared and short-handed Powerade-Pilipinas five of Yeng Guiao, 98-69, in their benefit game Monday night.

For Barrios, the game was a reality check that a pool of talents committed to play together for the long haul, and one that enjoys sufficient funding and training, is the ideal representive to the Asian Games and the FIBA Asia championship than a selection of PBA stars with crammed training.

The PBA has been actively involved in the creation of the RP cage squad since 1990, when former senator Robert Jaworski's crew brought home a silver medal in the Beijing Asian Games.

Ironically, it was the best-ever finish for an all-pro squad since the country started sending players in the elite tournaments nearly two decades ago. The 1994 squad coached by Norman Black finished only fourth in the Hiroshima Asiad, the Centennial Team of coach Tim Cone placed third in Thailand and the 2002 quintet of Jong Uichico in Busan was only good for fourth.

Worse, when the PBA set its sights on the Olympic and World Basketball qualifying tournaments, the RP 5 fumbled against powerhouse nations in the region with coach Chot Reyes’ RP five placing only ninth in Tokushima two years ago and Guiao’s wards finishing eighth in Tianjin only recently.

Under a memorandum of agreement between the PBA and the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas, the local governing body for basketball, the pro league is tasked to handle the country’s campaign in the Asian Games and FIBA Asia tilt.


But with Smart Gilas - an assembly of the brightest amateur stars bound to stay together for three years leading to the 2012 Olympics – already set up, the PBA feels it’s time to pass the baton to this pool.

PBA chairman Lito Alvarez said several board members have already suggested an “exit plan" for the pro loop.

“Dati kasi may transition period pa ang BAP-SBP (early years of the national sports association for basketball). But since meron ng programa, it’s about time the PBA should think about the exit plan and let the SBP take care of forming up an RP squad which will train and play together for a long period of time. And I think Smart Gilas will be capable of representing the country," said Alvarez.

Smart Gilas is also set to play as a guest team in the coming PBA season as part of its long-term preparations for the big task ahead. - GMANews.TV

D_I_A
10-08-2009, 11:50 PM
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Smart Gilas routs RP Patriots

by Ronnie Nathanielsz


10/8/209
FRESH from a 98-69 victory over the all-pro Powerade-Team Pilipinas that represented the country in the recent Fiba Asia Championships, the Smart Gilas squad, coached by Serbia’s Rajko Toroman, routed the Asean Basketball League-bound Philippine Patriots 87-66 in a practice game at The Arena in San Juan, Tuesday evening.

Smart Gilas was scheduled to play Alaska Aces in another practice game Wednesday at the Reyes Gym in Mandaluyong.

Lanky 6’9” Japeth Aguilar, who impressed fans with his showing against the Powerade team on Monday, once again led all scorers with 24 points, including four triples, but import CJ Giles, who was the victim of some bad calls, was forced to sit out for long spells as a result.

Although Giles had only two points, he once again dominated the boards with 11 rebounds, 10 of them at the defensive end. Giles was brought in by Smart Gilas, which is trying to work on his naturalization so he could play for the Philippines, just like several other countries have done.

Point guards JV Casio, who finished with 14 points and Mark Barroca, who also contributed the same number of points, played even better than they did against coach Yeng Guiao’s Powerade team, although the Patriots, at times, sought to rough them up and often resorted to tugging at the Smart Gilas players’ jerseys to prevent them from moving and executing plays.

Aguilar, who was picked no.1 in the Philippine Basketball Association Annual Draft by Burger King, but decided not to sign up and instead wants to play under Toroman and effectively hone his skills while enjoying playing aside his young teammates, regaled the small crowd with a couple of awesome slam dunks. He also had deft shots from the outside, showing he had the touch to accentuate his inside game.

Mac Baracael, Dylan Ababou and Chris Tiu were also impressive in a game that demonstrated the team’s togetherness, which was also a key factor in their overpowering performance against the Powerade Team which, in fairness to coach Guiao, was undermanned and had only one practice before the Smart Gilas game.

After quickly opening a 17-7 lead, Smart Gilas went scoreless for almost five minutes while the “Patriots” behind former PBA import Jason Dixon and Brandon Powell clawed back to end the first quarter down 17-14.

Smart Gilas opened up a 10-point lead at the half, 42-32 and increased it to 25 at the end of the third, 72-47, before easing up a little in the final quarter to eventually win by 21 points, 87-66.

D_I_A
10-08-2009, 11:53 PM
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Whopper, Aguilar still deadlocked

by Rey Joble

THE Philippine Basketball Association is bracing for a more exciting season when it begins its 35th year beginning Oct. 11.

But one delicate issue has yet to be resolved with the season-opening Philippine Cup ready to kick off four days from now—the row between Burger King and Japeth Aguilar.

Speaking on behalf of the PBA’s plans for the season as well as the controversy involving his team and Aguilar, new league chairman Alvarez told mediamen during the pro league’s launching at the Diamond Hotel yesterday to expect lots of surprises from today until opening day.

Two choices are in store for Aguilar. The first is he comes to terms with Burger King and pursue his PBA career while playing as well for Smart Gilas, while the second is he sticks it out with the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas-backed squad and face a stiff sanction from turning his back from the pro league.

Joining Alvarez in welcoming the guests on the center table were PBA commissioner Sonny Barrios, vice chairman Rene Pardo of Purefoods and lawyer Mamerto Mondragon of Rain or Shine, as well as the corporate sponsors’ representatives from Molten, Fern-C and KFC.

Barrios said he expects a well-balanced competition this season with Smart Gilas playing 10 games in the elimination and other teams retooling their respective rosters.

Pardo, whose team Purefoods got involved in some of the many trades that happened in the off season, sees all 10 teams capable of beating one another.

“Each team at its best is capable of beating everyone at any given night,” said Pardo, whose team plays Burger King on opening day. “But whether Japeth suits up for Burger King or not, we’re ready to beat them.”

Alvarez said he had asked his team’s liaison officer to prepare the uniform of Aguilar, who is still being given a spot with Burger King.

“I had the opportunity of talking to the parents of Japeth and told them that why would Japeth pass up the opportunity of earning P60 million in his basketball career in the Philippines while playing both for Burger King and Smart Gilas?,” Alvarez said during the press launching at the Diamond Hotel in Roxas Boulevard. “It’s either double or nothing, that’s his only choice.”

D_I_A
10-09-2009, 12:06 AM
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Gilas impact a concern

Written by Joel Orellana / Reporter
Thursday, 08 October 2009 01:35

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THE Philippine Basketball Association (PBA) braces for a challenging season when it opens shop on Sunday at the Araneta Coliseum.

And the biggest challenge the league faces is how its regular teams would fare against a guest squad which, four days ago, methodically beat Team Pilipinas, a selection of the PBA stars, by 29 points.

Smart Gilas’s victory created a stir, and one of the interesting subplots of the coming Philippine Cup is the battle of the amateur team beefed up by an American import against the nation’s top pros.

League commissioner Sonny Barrios and chairman Lito Alvarez of Burger King were both impressed with the performance of the Smart Gilas team on Monday against the PBA-backed national team of coach Yeng Guiao.

“I think they are on the right track,” Barrios said on Wednesday in the press launch of the new season of the league, which was presented by Coca-Cola and Smart Bro, at the Diamond Hotel.

“They have the materials to be successful at iba talaga ang nagagawa ng long-term program compared to a pick-up system,” he added.

Smart Gilas’s games will have bearing—although it cannot vie for the title—and Barrios is confident the PBA will give the guest squad the exposure it needs.

“Very competitive ‘yung team but personally I believe puwede silang talunin ng PBA teams,” said Barrios.

The team is composed of former and present collegiate standouts with American CJ Giles, who is expected to become a naturalized Filipino before the qualifying events for the 2012 London Olympics, and former Team Pilipinas member Japeth Aguilar, who enlisted in the PBA Rookie Draft but snubbed Burger King’s three-year, P8.7-million offer.

Alvarez was not only impressed with Gilas’s play but also with the support of the crowd that witnessed the charity game featuring the two national teams.

“It seems that Smart Gilas has a solid following,” said Alvarez, who was also joined by vice chairman Rene Pardo of Purefoods and treasurer Atty. Mamerto Mondragon of Rain or Shine in the press conference.

“And when they play in the PBA, mukhang may hatak silang crowd kaya maganda rin ito para sa liga,” he added.

The last all-amateur squad that made a huge impact in the PBA was the Northern Consolidated Corp. (NCC) of American coach Ron Jacobs in the 1980s. It won the 1985 Open Conference against Manila Beer.

Besides the challenge from Smart Gilas, the PBA’s main goal this season is to uplift the popularity of the league’s superstars and to remain as the country’s top sports entertainment.

“Iba ang popularity ng players noon compared sa current stars ng PBA. Kulang pa ang easy recognition ng public sa kanila and that’s our goal for this season,” Barrios said.

Barrios admitted that up to this stage, Robert Jaworski, Mon Fernandez, Alvin Patrimonio, Allan Caidic and the likes remain the most popular and players in the later years have yet to gain the same status.

He added the league is hoping to do well again in gate attendance, especially after the all-pro national team finished a dismal eighth in the Fiba-Asia Championships in Tianjin, China, in August.

The PBA’s 35th season features a lone game between Purefoods Tender Juicy against Burger King at 6:30 after a simple opening ceremony. The opening game was supposed to feature a tantalizing battle between the top two draft picks Aguilar and the Giants’ Rico Maierhofer, but the Aguilar case has yet to be resolved.

Alvarez said the handler of Aguilar and officials of Smart Gilas met late Wednesday to finally decide on the issue.

But the PBA chairman is still hopeful Aguilar would honor its contract with them and even asked his team’s liaison officer to prepare a Burger King uniform for Aguilar for Sunday’s game.

D_I_A
10-09-2009, 12:12 AM
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Aces surprise Smart Gilas, 74 to 67

by Reuel Vidal

WHO says Smart Gilas is the best basketball team in the country today?

Not the Alaska Aces, who beat the vaunted national training team, 74-67, in a practice game at the Reyes Gym Wednesday afternoon.

Smart Gilas, hailed as the future of Philippine basketball after their 98-69 demolition of an unprepared and hastily-assembled Powerade Team Pilipinas in a benefit game last Sunday, was unmasked by the Aces, who even posted a commanding 17-point lead, 56-39, late in the third period before going on to coast to victory.

“Mabibilis sila dahil mga bata pa. Mahirap sabayan dahil puro maliliksi. We just worked hard on defense and played our game on offense. Hayun, natsambahan tuloy sila,” said Alaska’s Willie Miller, who scored a game-high 23 points to lead the Aces to victory.

The Aces held a 13-point lead after the third period, 58-45, when their second unit took the floor at the start of the fourth period.

Smart Gilas surprised the Aces with 14-6 start in the fourth, capped by a triple by Aldreich Ramos, to cut the Alaska lead to only five markers, 64-59, with six minutes to go in the game when the Alaska starters went back into the fray.

Mark Borboran and Miller scored a basket apiece to go, with Joe Devance’s two free throws to push the Aces to what seemed like a safe nine-point lead, 70-61, with a little over three minutes to go.

But Chris Tiu, Jason Ballesteros and Dylan Ababou scored six unanswered points as Smart Gilas threatened anew, cutting the Alaska lead to only three points, 70-67, with 1:11 left in the game.

That was as close as Smart Gilas could get. Miller scored back-to-back baskets over a game but outmatched Tiu to ensure the Alaska victory.

Tiu and Ababou drilled back-to-back triples as the Aces trailed Smart-Gilas by four points, 19-23, early in the second period.

The Aces adjusted early to the Smart-Gilas offense, sticking close to the shooters of the national team to prevent easy baskets from the outside. Miller drilled a triple over Tiu to take the lead for Alaska for good, 27-25, with 3:28 to go in the second period.

CJ Giles and Japeth Aguilar had 16 and 11 points, but other than JV Casio who had 12 points, no other national team member stepped up on offense.

D_I_A
10-09-2009, 12:14 AM
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Pro league leaves RP 5 formation in group?s hands

by Rey Joble

THE Tianjin Fiba-Asia Championship may be the last for an all-pro national team competing in the elite basketball tournaments in the region.

Key officials of the Philippine Basketball Association, which has been sending professional players to major Asian basketball tournaments since 1990, decided to pass the responsibility to the sole basketball governing body in the country—the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas.

“After the benefit game between Powerade-Team Pilipinas and Smart Gilas, I was walking to the exit area going to the dugout along with Mr. Manny Pangilinan and I told him my thoughts about the game. The game showed only one important thing—that long-term preparation is indeed much better than the pickup system of star players,” PBA commissioner Sonny Barrios told mediamen during the launching of the league’s 35th season at the Diamond Hotel.

The Smart Gilas squad, handled by Serbian coach Rajko Toroman, ran roughshod over a Powerade five that came out unprepared, short-handed and not fit enough to compete against their younger rivals.

“This team has followed the path of the Northern Consolidated Corp., which became a successful squad not only in the international competitions but in the PBA as well,” said Barrios after the Smart Gilas team pulled off a 98-69 win over the pros.

“Dati, meron ang NCC ng naturalized players like Jeff Moore, Chip Engelland and Dennis Still. Ngayon naman, meron ang Smart Gilas ng CJ Giles. Meron din dati ang NCC ng Danding Cojuangco. Now, Smart Gilas has Mr. Pangilinan. And then the coaches are somewhat comparable as well. NCC has Ron Jacobs while Smart Gilas has Toroman [Rajko]. So, if you will take a look at it, Smart Gilas is on the right track,” he added.

PBA chairman Lito Alvarez explained that based on the memorandum of agreement between the league and the SBP, the pro league is tasked to form a team in the elite international tournaments like the Asian Games and the Fiba Asia.

But since the Smart Gilas was already put up, Alvarez said that several board members had suggested an exit plan for the league.

“Dati kasi may transition period pa ang BAP-SBP, but since meron ng programa, it’s about time the PBA should think about the exit plan and let the SBP take care of forming up an RP squad which will train and play together for a long period of time and I think Smart Gilas will be capable of representing the country,” said Alvarez, who also noted that the team has gained a tremendous fan base as shown in its game with Powerade five.

D_I_A
10-09-2009, 12:24 AM
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Passing of torch
SPORTING CHANCE By Joaquin Henson (The Philippine Star) Updated October 09, 2009 12:00 AM

No one probably knows the game better than three-time basketball Olympian Ramoncito Campos, 84, who has been an avid watcher of the sport for decades. So when Campos texted Smart-Gilas assistant coach Djalma Arnedo his comments after the youthful national team crushed the Powerade PBA selection, 98-69, at the Araneta Coliseum last Monday, you just had to sit up and take notice.

Here’s what Campos said: “Was impressed (by) the way the team played and smothered Powerade. This team will get somewhere. They have all the elements of a champion – three-point shooting, offense and defense. Finally, the Philippines has a team to be proud of.”

It’s been awhile since the national basketball team has made a dent in international competitions. The last Asian Games medal collected by Filipino cagers was the bronze that coach Tim Cone delivered in 1998. And the last Asian Basketball Confederation (now FIBA-Asia) title won by the Philippines came in 1986 with coach Ron Jacobs.

But what surely fired up Campos’ imagination was Smart-Gilas’ bold objective of bringing the Philippine basketball team back to the Olympics. The Philippines hasn’t played the game in the Olympics since 1972 so if ever the national team makes it to London in 2012, it will end a 40-year drought.

Campos played for the Philippine team at the 1948 London, 1952 Helsinki and 1956 Melbourne Olympics. The country’s best finish was seventh in Melbourne with coach Leo Prieto. No Asian country, including China, has claimed a higher placing.

If there’s one thing Campos would surely like to witness in his twilight years, it’s the Philippines returning to the Olympics. The road, however, isn’t easy. Only 12 teams are qualified to play basketball in the quadrennial extravaganza and in London, Asia will be represented by the FIBA-Asia champion of 2011. That means for Smart-Gilas to earn a slot in London, coach Rajko Toroman’s squad must top the FIBA-Asia Championships two years from now – outplaying in the process powerhouses like Iran, China, Jordan and Lebanon.

Is it possible? As the saying goes, nothing is impossible. Toroman piloted Iran to the FIBA-Asia crown in 2007 then took the national team to the Beijing Olympics the next year. That’s the same thing he has in mind for Smart-Gilas except the Philippines has no NBA-caliber type of center like 7-2 Hamed Haddadi.

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Walloping Powerade was symbolic of the passing of the torch to Smart-Gilas, which has inherited the honor and privilege of representing the country in international competitions from now on.

The SBP has envisioned a program where players of the Smart-Gilas national team will remain with the squad for two or three years before graduating to the PBA. It marked the ditching of the pick-up system that characterized the PBA’s participation in previous international competitions. Obviously, the pick-up system won’t bring the Philippines back to the Olympics.

Last Monday, Toroman looked like a reincarnated Jacobs, without the nicely combed hair, as his troops played a style that makes for a winning formula in international competitions. The hallmarks were evident – teamwork, movement, unselfish play, accuracy from medium range, intensity on both ends, hardly any post-ups, control of the boards and respect for the game.

The fact that Powerade had only one practice with just five players showing up helped make Toroman’s job easier. The pros ran the handful of plays that they did at the FIBA-Asia Championships in Tianjin but when the first option broke down, they free-lanced and went one-on-one, trying to use their experience to throw off the new kids on the block.

In Tianjin, Powerade’s biggest losing margin was 18 in the 83-65 loss to Qatar. So Smart-Gilas’ win by 29 was a huge blow.

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Powerade actually got the early jump on Smart-Gilas, racing to a 14-7 lead. Naturalization candidate C. J. Giles was a one-man show for Smart-Gilas at the onset as the locals struggled, apparently overawed playing against their heroes from the PBA. But when Toroman settled things down, Smart-Gilas just wouldn’t hold back. Even with a cushion of over 20 points, Smart-Gilas continued to full-court press and mercilessly mowed down the opposition.

By the way, Giles and his brother Malcolm are preparing to settle down here. They’re thinking of setting up a T-shirt business and their mother will be flying in shortly to join them. Giles, 24, seems to be taking his naturalization seriously.

James Yap proudly carried the flag for Powerade and finished with 17 points but worked for every shot, almost exclusively on his own. In the end, Smart-Gilas shone with 29 assists compared to Powerade’s 12.

Clearly, Toroman is on the right track in developing Smart-Gilas into a sleek fighting machine. But the team is far from being at the same level as Iran or China at the moment. Against Powerade, Smart-Gilas showed lapses unforgiveable in international play – unforced errors, turnovers, sloppy ballhandling and poor decision-making. In all, Smart-Gilas committed 22 turnovers to Powerade’s 15.

Still, there is reason to hope and Campos has confirmed it.

D_I_A
10-09-2009, 12:30 AM
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SBP to keep out of Aguilar’s case



Friday, 09 October 2009 00:00


NOLI EALA, the executive directorof Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (SBP), assured Thursday they will continue supporting the Philippine Basketball Association (PBA) and Burger King in settling the issue on top rookie pick Japeth Aguilar.

Eala told The Manila Times that the country’s highest governing body on basketball would not become a hindrance on talks between the Burger King management, headed by PBA Chairman Lito Alvarez, and Aguilar’s camp.

“The SBP and Mr. Alvarez are always talking with each other regarding how to end this issue, but there is no concrete solution yet,” said Eala. “We are doing everything to talk with Japeth [Aguilar], but it’s all up to him if he likes or not to play in the PBA.”

The only thing Eala assured to Alvarez and the professional league is that SBP would not offer any contract to Aguilar, particularly for the top rookie pick to play for the Smart Gilas developmental team.

Burger King is offering an P8.7-million three-year contract to Aguilar plus a chance for him to play with Smart Gilas in its international meets. Aguilar has refused to sign up with Burger King but is currently training with Smart Gilas under Serbian coach Rajko Toroman to stay in shape.

Aguilar scored 24 points on Monday to lead Smart Gilas to a 98-69 victory against the all-professional Powerade team Pili-pinas squad.

Alvarez said he is expecting Aguilar to play for Burger King when the Whoppers play Purefoods in the opening day of 35th PBA Philippine Cup at the Araneta Coliseum on Sunday. In fact, Alvarez already prepared a jersey for Aguilar.

“I had the opportunity of talking to the parents of Japeth and told them that why would Japeth pass up the opportunity of earning millions in his basketball career in the Philippines while playing both for Burger King and Smart Gilas?,” Alvarez said. “It’s either double or nothing that’s his only choice.”

D_I_A
10-09-2009, 01:29 PM
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Aguilar still out of PBA RP Cup

By Musong R. Castillo
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 00:13:00 10/09/2009



GAME SUNDAY (Araneta Coliseum)
4:30 p.m.—Opening Ceremonies
6:30 p.m.—Burger King vs Purefoods

THE ONLY WAY JAPETH AGUILAR can see action in the coming KFC PBA Philippine Cup is to suit up for a Philippine Basketball Association team. And it might not even be Burger King.

This scenario cropped up after Whoppers team manager and league chair Lito Alvarez drew overwhelming support in his decision to bar the 6-foot-9 beanpole, picked by the team as the No.1 overall draft choice recently, from seeing action with guest team Smart Gilas national squad.

Alvarez gained the support of the team representatives, some of whom have accused Aguilar of “bastardizing” PBA rules and of “setting a bad example for future Draft applicants.”

But Alvarez still gave Aguilar an option: If the Western Kentucky U alumnus doesn’t want to be with Burger King, “all he needs to do is sign the contract we are offering him and we will play it by ear after that.”

“We have never had a history of holding on to a player if he doesn’t want to play for us,” Alvarez said.

Burger King gave away Arwind Santos in a lopsided trade with San Miguel Beer months ago in anticipation of Aguilar joining the Whoppers.

A crucial meeting between officials of the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas, which bankrolls Smart Gilas, and Burger King management was set Wednesday afternoon but both camps have been tight-lipped about what was discussed.

Burger King had offered Aguilar the maximum allowable salary of P8.7 million for three years and Alvarez even said the team will allow the son of former pro Peter Aguilar to suit up with Smart Gilas if he wants.

“That’s the best of both worlds for him, I don’t know why he still refuses to sign,” Alvarez said.

richchard28
10-09-2009, 01:49 PM
though sbp could not sign japeth,
i think they will continue giving him food and other allowances worth 120k(?) a month. ;)

digitalsuperman
10-09-2009, 03:02 PM
i've read from a tweet that japeth will be playing for BK...
tsk.tsk.tsk..i really hope and pray that its not true...

digitalsuperman
10-09-2009, 04:04 PM
from twitter:
japeth is set to sign with BK tomorrow.. they are currently working on a compromise deal..

the information did not include what the deal is.maybe later i can scoop it up via twitter..

digitalsuperman
10-09-2009, 05:26 PM
its official!

Japeth will sign up with BK and will play against PF this sunday.

source: twitter..

D_I_A
10-10-2009, 12:33 AM
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Aguilar agrees to sign 1-year deal with Whopper
10/09/2009 | 09:06 PM



The long wait for Burger King is over after controversial top overall rookie pick Japeth Aguilar finally reached an agreement with the Whopper after two days of long meetings.

Aguilar, on Friday, decided to play for Burger King for one year and will be on the Whopper bench when they take on the Purefoods TJ Giants when the PBA opens its 35th season on Sunday at the Big Dome.

The 6-foot-9 Aguilar will be wearing jersey No. 18 since his favorite number, 17, is already assigned to forward Aaron Aban.

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PBA chairman Lito Alvarez during the league's recent press launch in Makati City.

But regardless of what jersey number Aguilar wears, Burger King team manager and PBA chairman Lito Alvarez expects an exciting early collision between the top two picks in the recent Rookie Draft – Rico Maierhoffer of La Salle was chosen by Purefoods as the No. 2 pick.

“That’s very interesting to see. More than just the match up of the two teams that got involved in a lot of trade scenarios, the top two rookies will take center stage," Alvarez told GMANews.TV.

But getting Aguilar, according to Alvarez, was done with a lot of convincing as he needed the help of the cager’s camp as well as the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (SBP) officials.

The SBP-backed Smart Gilas handled by Serbian coach Rajko Toroman will participate as guest team in the coming conference. It was the same team Aguilar played for during the benefit game wherein they dismantled the all-pro Powerade-Pilipinas five of coach Yeng Guiao, who will also be his coach with his mother team in the PBA – Burger King.

Alvarez said some terms of Aguilar’s contract will be changed while several things will be up for discussion, one of them is whether he would only suit up for the Lina Group franchise or play simultaneously with Smart Gilas in the Philippine Cup.

“He already come to terms with us, but unlike in our initial offer where he is set to receive a three-year, P8.7-million, he will be given a one-year, P1.8-million offer," said Alvarez. “That’s because we know the potential of Japeth and how he aspires to play overseas where he also has lots of opportunities."

Alvarez added the SBP played a key role in settling Burger King’s issue with Aguilar. It will be recalled that Aguilar decided not to sign Burger King’s contract offer and instead pursued a career with the Smart Gilas developmental team.

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Japeth Aguilar of Smart Gilas completes a two-handed dunk during their charity game against the Powerade-Team Pilipinas at the Big Dome. GMANews.TV

“As early as 8:30 a.m. Thursday, Mr. Pangilinan met with us. Minalat na nga ako dahil sa tagal ng meeting namin, but it’s worth the wait," said Alvarez. “We have to postpone the decision as medyo sensitibo talaga eh. Japeth’s parents want him to play for Gilas, but Mr. Pangilinan convinced Japeth that he should come to terms with Burger King as he has become part of the problem, too."

“I saw the sincerity on the SBP officials to help resolve the issue and napakalaki ng ginawa nilang papel dito," he added.

Alvarez, who succeeded Joaqui Trillo, said that the 22-year-old Aguilar is set to secure a license from the Games and Amusement Board and is scheduled to attend Burger King’s Saturday practice.

Asked about the thoughts of being reunited with Aguilar, Guiao feels ordinary. “Parang ordinaryo lang naman eh. Sanay na ako sa sitwasyon na ganito and even mas worse pa nga yung ibang nahawakan, which include players who were head case."

“Of course, my policy with the team is no special treatment. I will give him the opportunities necessarily, but he needs to prove his worth," he added.

D_I_A
10-10-2009, 12:35 AM
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Japeth relents, suits up for Whoppers
By Nelson Beltran (The Philippine Star) Updated October 10, 2009 12:00 AM

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MANILA, Philippines - In the end, Japeth Aguilar came to terms with Burger King, paving the way for his entry to the 35th PBA season which opens tomorrow at the Araneta Coliseum.

With the intervention of PLDT-Smart chairman Manny V. Pangilinan, Aguilar finally agreed to sign up with Burger King, the team which made him the No. 1 overall pick in the 2009 PBA Rookie Draft.

The team was rushing Aguilar’s license with the Games and Amusements Board (GAB) as of presstime yesterday.

The Whoppers will have a special practice session at the Reyes Gym this morning to be attended by Aguilar. Afterwards, the two parties will formally sign a contract then hold a press conference.

“He settled for a one-year contract. It’s a done deal. We’ll discuss the other details tomorrow (today),” said BK top honcho and PBA board chairman Lito Alvarez.

“The most important thing is that he finally agreed to sign a contract. That’s a big concern not only for me but the team, the PBA board and the SBP (Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas). With this development, we’ve eliminated possible irritant,” Alvarez said.

Alvarez said SBP president Manny V. Pangilinan personally talked with Japeth’s father, Peter, in an overseas call to convince the family to settle their issue with Burger King.

“It took the intervention of Mr. MVP for the problem to be resolved, and I’m thankful to him,” said Alvarez. “There’s pride and principle that needed to be managed and MVP’s words of wisdom really helped.”

Among the things to be discussed by the two parties tomorrow is the delicate issue on Aguilar’s stint with both his mother club in the PBA and the Smart Gilas team.

“I’m allowing him that and I think the PBA board won’t get on the way. But to be sure that there’s no problem, we’re inviting the commissioner (Sonny Barrios) to the press conference tomorrow,” said Alvarez.

Aguilar joins the Whoppers in practice today in preparation for the season opener pitting Burger King and Purefoods.

It’s a match featuring top pick Aguilar and second selection Rico Maierhofer.

“It’s designed to be a battle between the top two picks. We’re very happy it will materialize,” said Alvarez.

Before the talk between Pangilinan and the older Aguilar, the rookie’s camp was firm on its decision to abandon Burger King and instead play for the Smart Gilas team being prepared to compete in the 2011 Fiba Asia championship.

Aguilar’s decision to reconsider and settle for a one-year pact could mean he would seek to be traded after a year’s stay with the Whoppers.

“It’s not that important. It can be resolved. The important thing really is that he’s signing up with us. With that, the PBA draft rules are not ‘bastardized’,” said Alvarez.

Alvarez’s original offer for the former Western Kentucky U player was a three-year pact involving the maximum amount allowed in the league.

D_I_A
10-10-2009, 12:46 AM
Aguilar decides to join burger king

Manila Times
Josef T. Ramos
Saturday, 10 October 2009 00:00


TOP rookie pick Japeth Aguilar and the Burger King Management have finally come to terms two days before the start of the 35th Philippine Basketball Association (PBA) Philippine Cup on Sunday at the Araneta Coliseum.
Aguilar’s agent, Ronnie Nathanielsz, informed The Manila Times that the 6’10” center would sign on Saturday Burger King’s new offer worth P1.8 million over one year or the P8.7-million three-year contract previously offered to the top rookie pick.

“Most likely he [Aguilar] would sign tomorrow to end this issue,” said Nathanielsz, who also confirmed that Aguilar will be allowed to play both in Burger King and Smart Gilas during the Philippine Cup conference.
“We will study and see it tomorrow [Saturday] but I’m confident the parents [of Aguilar] are convinced,” he said.

According to a highly-reliable source who requested anonymity, the parents of Aguilar and Japeth himself talked with Philippine Basketball Association Chairman and Burger King Team Governor Lito Alvarez on Friday to finally put the issue to rest.

“It looks like the parents of Japeth feared of what consequences await [him] if ever Japeth does not sign a contract with Burger King,” said the source. “It is not only Burger King which is very upset [over the matter] but the whole PBA as well.”

The majority of the team governors of the PBA had threatened to ban Aguilar for life if he refuses the offer of Burger King, which picked him in the first round of the 2009 rookie draft.

But with everything almost cleared up, Alvarez said he is confident Aguilar would sign the contract offered to him on Saturday without any hesitation.

“Imagine Japeth would earn millions playing for Burger King and Smart Gilas, so I’m sure the parents [of Aguilar] would not let this opportunity pass up,” said Alvarez.

On Thursday, Alvarez said he was expecting Aguilar to play for Burger King when the Whoppers play Purefoods in the opening day of 35th PBA Philippine Cup. In fact, Alvarez already prepared a jersey for Aguilar.

Aguilar proved his worth as the top draft pick when he scored 24 points on Monday to lead Smart Gilas to a 98-69 victory against the all-professional Powerade team Pilipinas squad in a charity game for the victims of the storms and heavy rains that recently hit the country.

D_I_A
10-10-2009, 12:58 AM
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Whopper, Aguilar come to terms

by Rey Joble

BRING on Burger King’s jersey no.18. That belongs to Japeth Aguilar.

Two days before the opening of the Philippine Basketball Association’s 35th season, Aguilar and Burger King finally reached an accord.

The 6’9” former Western Kentucky University standout will start playing for the Burger King Whopper beginning Sunday against Purefoods in a game, where the top two rookie picks—Aguilar and no. 2 overall choice Rico Maierhofer of the Giants—will take centerstage.

Burger King team manager and newly-installed PBA chairman Lito Alvarez told Standard Today that the young cager has agreed to come to terms with the team and will sign his contract today. But there would be some changes on the terms of the contract, while several things will still be up for discussion. One of them is whether Aguilar would only suit up for the Lina Group franchise or also play with guest team Smart Gilas in the Philippine Cup.

The Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas-backed Smart Gilas, handled by Serbian coach Rajko Toroman, will participate as guest team in the coming conference.

“Japeth has already come to terms with us, but unlike in our initial offer, where he is set to receive a three-year, P8.7-million paycheck, he will be given a one-year, P1.8-million offer instead,” said Alvarez. “That’s because we know the potential of Japeth and how he aspires to play overseas, where he also has lots of opportunities.”

Alvarez also added that the people from the SBP played a key role in mediating between Aguilar and Burger King. It will be recalled that the cager decided not to sign the contract offer of Burger King and instead wanted a career with the Smart Gilas developmental team.

Alvarez met with Aguilar’s camp, and officials of SBP led by Manny Pangilinan, Ricky Vargas, Noli Eala and Pato Gregorio, early Thursday morning, but the talks went on a deadlock before the PLDT top honcho called a halt at the height of Ateneo’s title conquest in the University Athletic Association of the Philippines .

Ateneo is one of the teams Pangilinan is supporting aside from San Beda, Smart Gilas and Talk N Text in the PBA.

“As early as 8:30 a.m. Thursday, Mr. Pangilinan met with us. Minalat na nga ako dahil sa tagal ng meeting namin, but it’s worth the wait,” said Alvarez. “We have to postpone the decision dahil medyo sensitibo talaga. Japeth’s parents want him to play for Gilas, but Mr. Pangilinan convinced Japeth that he should come to terms with Burger King as he has become part of the problem, too. I saw the sincerity on the SBP officials to help resolve the issue and napakalaki ng ginawa nilang papel dito.”

The new chairman, who succeeded Joaqui Trillo, also disclosed that the 22-year-old player will secure a license from the Games and Amusement Board and is scheduled to attend practice of Burger King today.

D_I_A
10-10-2009, 01:10 AM
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Aguilar, Burger King reach accord
Prized rookie agrees to play for Whopper in the PBA
By WAYLON GALVEZ
October 9, 2009, 5:35pm


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Japeth Aguilar, regarded as the future superstar of Philippine basketball, has reportedly agreed to play for Burger King when the Philippine Basketball Association’s 35th season opens this Sunday.

If the last kinks are ironed out, Aguilar’s stint with Burger King ends weeks of recriminations during which the 6-10 former Western University player decided not to sign with the Whopper after he was picked No. 1 overall by the team in the last draft, and Burger King threatened to ban him for life from playing in the PBA.

But on Friday, the two sides appeared to have found a middle ground to satisfy their interests.

A source who requested anonymity because he was not authorized to reveal details of the negotiation said Aguilar, 22, will suit up for the Whopper and after several games, will be traded to Talk 'N Text.

After a few more games, TNT will release Aguilar to Smart-Gilas where he will play the remainder of the PBA conference.

Aguilar’s eventual release from TNT is expected to be smooth as it is owned by businessman Manny Pangilinan who is also head of the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas which bankrolls the Smart-Gilas national team.

Burger King governor and PBA chairman Lito Alvarez said he expects Aguilar to sign the P8.7 million Uniformed Players Contract (UPC) they offered.

“It’s 90 percent sure he will play for Burger King,” said Alvarez before his meeting with Aguilar and his representative Ronnie Nathanielsz yesterday.

“Our objective is for him to play for Burger King,” Alvarez said of Aguilar. Nathanielsz confirmed Alvarez’s announcement.

“We talked the whole day last Thursday, and we had a good discussion. We’re trying to have a win-win situation for everybody,” Nathanielz told the Bulletin in a phone interview.

With this development, Burger King coach Yeng Guiao said he’s happy that the issue has been resolved before the start of the new PBA season.

Guiao coached Aguilar during the Powerade Team Pilipinas’ stint in the last Asia-FIBA championship in China.

“Ang sa akin lang kasi, as long as we can have a resolution to the problem, that’s the best for all. I think makakabuti sa lahat, whatever yung resolution na yun,” Guiao said.

“As long as meron ng agreement yung mga bosses natin, agreeable na rin ako run.”

Aguilar’s stint with Whopper against Purefoods in the PBA opening game on Sunday at the Araneta Coliseum appeared a certainty after Aguilar was granted a professional license by the Games and Amusements Board, a source said.

Aguilar may have a little catching up to do in learning Guiao’s play patterns.

“Well, it depends. Kung makaka-ensayo siya bukas (today), we will run the patterns for him,” said Guiao.

“If he will be helpful to the team, of course we will use him. If not, maiintindihan naman niya siguro ‘yun.”

D_I_A
10-10-2009, 01:13 AM
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Ateneo star set to join Gilas squad
By JONAS TERRADO
October 9, 2009, 5:32pm

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Rabeh Al-Hussaini, the 6-6 Ateneo center who helped the Blue Eagles capture the UAAP basketball championship last Thursday, celebrates with fans after their clinching 71-58 victory over the University of the East. (Photo by BOB DUNGO JR.)

Rabeh Al-Hussaini has started preliminary talks with the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (SBP) with regards to his possible stint as member of Smart-Gilas national developmental team.

Sportsman Arben Santos, who represents the six-foot-six Ateneo star, said he has talked with SBP executive-director Noli Eala about Al-Hussaini’s role in the team.

“Rabeh did not sign up immediately with Smart-Gilas because he wanted to finish his commitments with Ateneo. Now that the UAAP is over, he’s now ready to negotiate,” Santos said.

Santos made it clear, however, that completing a college degree remains Al-Hussaini’s top priority.

“Rabeh still has one semester and one summer left before he graduates. This is one of the things that we need to discuss with SBP,” he said.

Al-Hussaini is taking up inter-disciplinary studies.

Santos said he doesn’t see any problem with the ongoing talks.

“Well, Noli and MVP (Manny V. Pangilinan) are Ateneans so they understand the importance of education,” he said.

Santos said there’s a big chance that Al-Hussaini will suit up for Smart-Gilas in the PBA Philippine Cup which kicks off Sunday.

Al-Hussaini led the Blue Eagles to back-to-back titles and was named Finals Most Valuable Player.

Al-Hussaini had 21 points and 14 rebounds to lead the Eagles to a 71-58 rout of University of the East for the UAAP championship last Thursday at the Araneta Coliseum.

He is one of three players on Serbian coach Rajko Toroman’s wish list, the others being University of the East's Paul Lee and 6-10 Junmar Fajardo of University of Cebu.

Smart-Gilas begins its PBA campaign on Friday against Burger King.

Al-Hussaini credited his transformation into one of the country’s premier centers to Ateneo coach Norman Black.

“Naisip ko din kasi dati nung first year ko siguro magiging average player lang ako,” said Al-Hussaini. “May mga times din na nagbutt heads kami pero naisip ko siya yung coach e at kailangan makinig ako sa kanya.”

Al-Hussaini was also named as the league’s Most Valuable Player last season after leading Ateneo to the first of its back-to-back titles.

D_I_A
10-10-2009, 01:23 AM
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October 10, 2009 06:25 PM Saturday
Japeth makes up mind, signs up with BK
By: Zean Macamay


Game Tomorrow: (Araneta Coliseum)

4:30 p.m. – Opening ceremonies
6:30 p.m. – Burger King vs. Purefoods


JAPETH Aguilar has finally decided to choose what’s best for him – sign up with Burger King and avoid being banned from the Philippine Basketball Association.

The controversial No. 1 draft pick on Thursday night agreed to play for the Whoppers in the season-opening Philippine Cup, ending his agonizing problem that nearly started a rift between the two biggest basketball groups in the country.

The 22-year -old product of Western Kentucky University, though, merely consented to a one-year deal with Burger King. He also earned a right to still play for Smart-Gilas, which will compete in the PBA tournament, but will not see action for either Burger King and Smart-Gilas if ever the teams collide.

“Napakahirap,” said PBA Chairman and Bur-ger King team manager Lito Alvarez when asked about how the negotiations went through. “Marami ng masakit na salita ang nabitawan from both camps.

“I just told Japeth that he needs to be a part of the solution. The good thing here is that we have finally agreed to terms.”

Aguilar will thus receive the maximum allowable pay for a rookie worth P150,000 a month. He will sign up with the Whoppers this morning before the team’s practice.

“Nag-agree na rin ako na one-year lang because in my assessment he wants to test the waters in the U.S.,” said Alvarez. “If there’s a player right now who has a chance of playing in the National Developmental Basketball League (in the U.S.), I think it’s him (Aguilar).”

Alvarez said that the pact could not have been arrived at if not for the intervention of Manny V. Pangilinan, the Talk ‘N Text team owner and Chairman of the Sama-hang Basketball ng Pilipinas, the amateur governing body that bankrolls the Smart-Gilas ball club.

“The key here is the participation of MVP,” said Alvarez. “At the same time, nakita ko rin yung sincerity ng SBP to resolve the issue.”

Aguilar’s decision to sign up with Burger King now transforms the team into an instant darkhorse. The Whoppers have not yet won a PBA title since joining the league in 2000. The best they could come up with was a runner-up finish in the 2007-08 Fiesta Conference.

Coach Yeng Guiao now has the figure to man the slot for him, a player he picked to be a part of the Powerade-Team Pilipinas team that competed in the FIBA-Asia Championships in Tianjin, China.

But because of the limited practice time Aguilar has with Burger King, Guiao suspects that the former Ateneo slotman would not get much playing time right away.

“Well, it depends. Kung makakapag-ensayo siya bukas (today), we will run the patterns for him. If he will be helpful to the team, of course we will use him. If not, maiintindihan naman niya siguro ‘yun,” said Guiao.

The Whoppers will see action tomorrow, facing a Purefoods team that has been made stronger with the re-acquisition of Marc Pingris, a former Finals MVP.

Although very young at 22, Aguilar’s stamina will be tested since he will play for two teams. Alvarez said that the Whoppers and the PBA will still have to talk it out on how to treat the situation.

Smart-Gilas, the team tasked to reclaim an Olympic Games berth in 2012 in London, has been allowed to play as a guest team but is not permitted to win the championship. Smart-Gilas will merely see action in the eliminations or for 20 games.

Wins and defeats by Smart-Gilas, though, will count. Alvarez said that that has been the decision by the PBA Board to treat games against the Nationals with importance.

D_I_A
10-13-2009, 12:09 AM
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Japeth returns to Smart Gilas
By Nelson Beltran (The Philippine Star) Updated October 13, 2009 12:00 AM
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MANILA, Philippines - After playing just one game with Burger King, top PBA draftee Japeth Aguilar is returning to the Smart Gilas team.

Burger King top official Lito Alvarez announced the new development to the Whoppers in a huddle after the team took an 80-93 defeat to the Purefoods Tender Juicy Giants in the kickoff game of the 2009-2010 KFC PBA Philippine Cup at the Araneta Coliseum last Sunday.

“Mr. Alvarez thanked Japeth for becoming a part of the team then announced what’s apparently a prior arrangement. I don’t know the details but I think Japeth is going back to Smart Gilas,” BK coach Yeng Guiao told The STAR.

“I was asked by our boss of my opinion and I said it’s up to them to make the decision. This may really be the best solution to the problem. Now it’s closed and the distraction is over,” Guiao said.

“For sure, our boss will not give away Japeth without getting anything in return. In the end, everybody’s happy. It’s better than Japeth playing for us but he’s not happy,” said Guiao.

Alvarez had earlier said his main concern was to keep integrity of the PBA draft system.

There was no official statement from Alvarez despite repeated calls from The STAR. It was Alvarez who pursued the top amateur draft pick to honor his commitment to the team and at one time raised the threat of lifetime ban on Aguilar.

Alvarez apparently made an arrangement with the Smart-PLDT group, getting Aguilar to play one game with the Whoppers then immediately dealing him back to the Gilas team.

Since Gilas is not a PBA member ballclub, Burger King is taking the Talk n Text route to send Aguilar back to Gilas.

And since Burger King and Talk n Text are considered sister teams under the Manny V. Pangilinan group, Barako Bull will reportedly be used as the conduit in the BK-TNT trade transaction.

BK is getting future draft picks with monetary consideration likely to be part of the deal.

“We’ll be okay without Japeth. We’ve made preparations for the season without him,” said Guiao.

Aguilar is expected to show up with the Gilas team as it plays its first game as guest team in the all-Filipino tourney versus the Whoppers themselves on Friday, also at the Big Dome.

With only one practice with the Whoppers, Aguilar struggled in his pro debut, humbled by Purefoods new recruit Rafi Reavis.

He made 10 points on 2-of-7 field-goal shooting and 6-of-10 free throws.

“I don’t know what their plan with Japeth is. But Peter (Japeth’s US-based father) made it clear, Japeth’s playing for Smart Gilas,” said veteran newsman Ronnie Nathanielzs, the agent-manager of the controversial player.

Meanwhile, Coke has acquired Wesley Gonzales from the free agent pool to boost its roster.

easter
10-15-2009, 06:38 AM
:o I read from Bleacher's Brew of Rick Olivarez that the game of Smart Gilas in the PBA will not be shown on TV? Ano ba naman yan?

animo
10-15-2009, 09:26 AM
pba probably don't want to be humiliated in national TV. ;D
or Gilas don't want to give away their tricks to foreign scouts.

easter
10-15-2009, 09:36 AM
It seems BTV will cover it according to their website. I don't know though if it will be shown live on CS9.

elvis
10-15-2009, 11:41 AM
All the games of Smart Gilas is at 2:30. The problem I think is that the agreement with CS9 (?) is to broadcast pba games which, based on the regular schedule (i.e., without the inclusion of guest teams like Smart Gilas), starts at 5 pm (1st game) and then 7:30 pm (2nd game). Pag may laro ang Smart Gilas, triple bill kasi and sila ang laging first game. This probably has to do with the sharing of TV ad revenues between the broadcaster and the pba.

Raging Blue
10-15-2009, 11:58 AM
It seems BTV will cover it according to their website. I don't know though if it will be shown live on CS9.


Per checking with Basketball TV schedule in their website, the Smart-Gilas vs. Burger King game on Friday October 16 will be shown on BTV on Saturday Oct. 17 at 530pm.

duphaR007
10-15-2009, 08:39 PM
did paul lee signed with gilas already? his brand of play is pro material. yun nga lang parang loaded with guards ang gilas. casio, tiu, barocca and lee

jembengzon
10-16-2009, 09:50 AM
what are the chances of nonoy baclao playing for smart-guilas ? i thought he was sort of on the radar screen ???

D_I_A
10-16-2009, 02:42 PM
what are the chances of nonoy baclao playing for smart-guilas ? i thought he was sort of on the radar screen ???


pag nakapasok na si fajardo,mukhang di na sya makasama.. besides pasok na si rabeh sa national team, mukhang redundant na ang magiging role nya.

richchard28
10-16-2009, 03:04 PM
how can we cheer to our beloved gilas if:
1. their sched is always weekdays and at 2:30pm?
2. they won't air it live on tv?
???

gienecees
10-16-2009, 03:10 PM
how can we cheer to our beloved gilas if:
1. their sched is always weekdays and at 2:30pm?
2. they won't air it live on tv?
???


Listen to PBA RAdio Live!

http://teampilipinas.info/2009/05/dzsr-sports-radio-918-khz-am.html

Start 2nd Qrtr ALL 29 score

NAglaro na si Junmar Fajardo

kerouac82
10-16-2009, 03:19 PM
Game's getting really ugly. At least three flagrant fouls called in the first half alone. Tiu down on the floor.

gienecees
10-16-2009, 03:21 PM
Game's getting really ugly. At least three flagrant fouls called in the first half alone. Tiu down on the floor.


mukhang pinipersonal na niGuiao ang game. NAK ng 4 na fragrant FOUL! tsk tsk tsk

kerouac82
10-16-2009, 03:22 PM
Game's getting really ugly. At least three flagrant fouls called in the first half alone. Tiu down on the floor.


mukhang pinipersonal na niGuiao ang game. NAK ng 4 na fragrant FOUL! tsk tsk tsk


Second flagrant foul on Arboleda. There's a fight between Arboleda vs someone in the crowd!

gienecees
10-16-2009, 03:23 PM
Grabe ARBOLEDA kicked a FAN! ano ba ito???

kerouac82
10-16-2009, 03:23 PM
Grabe ARBOLEDA kicked a FAN! ano ba ito???


Like coach, like player.

gienecees
10-16-2009, 03:28 PM
pag pupuyatan ko ito mamaya gabi! ;D ;D ;D

richchard28
10-16-2009, 04:46 PM
how can we cheer to our beloved gilas if:
1. their sched is always weekdays and at 2:30pm?
2. they won't air it live on tv?
???


Listen to PBA RAdio Live!

http://teampilipinas.info/2009/05/dzsr-sports-radio-918-khz-am.html

Start 2nd Qrtr ALL 29 score

NAglaro na si Junmar Fajardo


thanks for this! ;)

clutchjedi
10-16-2009, 04:49 PM
(DZSR) BK leads 110-100 1min left after Ronjay Buenafe trey

clutchjedi
10-16-2009, 04:52 PM
BK wins 115-105. Belga 17 pts daw for BK?

richchard28
10-16-2009, 05:01 PM
oh well... better luck next time.
go gilas! ;)

augustine
10-16-2009, 07:43 PM
pag pupuyatan ko ito mamaya gabi! ;D ;D ;D


better check if there is a replay tonight. bukas pa daw.

i wonder if the PBA will try to censor or cancel the replay. On the grounds that it is bad for the PBA's reputation. They'd better not! Fan revolt!

gienecees
10-16-2009, 11:46 PM
pag pupuyatan ko ito mamaya gabi! ;D ;D ;D


better check if there is a replay tonight. bukas pa daw.

i wonder if the PBA will try to censor or cancel the replay. On the grounds that it is bad for the PBA's reputation. They'd better not! Fan revolt!


meron pare, 11:30 PM RPN/CS9 Channel 14 dito sa destiny Cable Smart Gilas vs Burger King Replay, I am watching it right now ;D

joelex
10-17-2009, 12:53 AM
Arboleda just reached his top. After years of hooliganism even before having Guiao as coach, he just totally blew it with 2 cheap shots on Casio and a ridicolous sahod on Baracael. I could just feel the anger and disgust of both commentators. Never mind him attacking the fan who was reported to have had a mouthful to say anyway, kahit wala yon, this guy just needs to be banned for good.

D_I_A
10-17-2009, 06:29 AM
Arboleda just reached his top. After years of hooliganism even before having Guiao as coach, he just totally blew it with 2 cheap shots on Casio and a ridicolous sahod on Baracael. I could just feel the anger and disgust of both commentators. Never mind him attacking the fan who was reported to have had a mouthful to say anyway, kahit wala yon, this guy just needs to be banned for good.


kung talagang taga-Ateneo yung nabugbog na fan ni arboleda, di magugustuhan ng mga taga Ateneo yan, yari si Wynne pag nagkataon.

augustine
10-17-2009, 07:49 AM
Simpleng question lang po. What is more serious: attacking a fan or attacking a ref? The PBA has no choice but to answer that attacking a fan is more grave - else the PBA cuts itself off from its lifeblood. SO compared to the lifetime ban given to Jaworski (later reversed) for hitting a referee, the PBA has no choice but to ban Arboleda for life.

The more complex question here is the culpability of Burger King in what happened. The PBA should investigate the instructions given by the coach and management on their conduct during this game. Also, even before the PBA rules on Arboleda, what action will team management make? Will it defend or punish Arboleda? If they punish him, Arboleda may take the "Coach told us to play them tough and not allow them dunks or layups" defense. Sana nga, para magkalabasan na. Katigbak will surely sue the company as well, so the behavior of coach and players will be placed under a microscope.

This could be the end of the PBA Burger King franchise.. Am i exaggerating? What do you think BUrger King USA is going to do about this? This will tarnish their global brand and they will want to distance themselves from this. If I were them, I would terminate the Philippine franchise with this group. By the way, if you want to send Burger King International a piece of your mind, here are the contacts.

CONTACT: Burger King Holdings Inc., Miami
BKC Media Relations
Denise Wilson, (305) 378-7277
dwilson2@whopper.com
or
BKC Investor Relations
Amy Wagner, (305) 378-7696
awagner@whopper.com

The CEO is John Chidsey, so presumably his email is jchidsey@whopper.com

zytrexx
10-17-2009, 11:09 AM
I'm curious, BK threatened to ban Japeth because of his "stunt" but eventually relented when Japeth decided to play for them, then a game later he was "disposed" err...I mean traded.

On the other hand, Arboleda attacked a fan and rough housing some players in Gilas. A serious offense, I may say. But no talks of banning him. Is it because he's Alvarez's son-in-law?

Double standard?

As for some PBA fans who doubted Gilas, the keep on criticizing the team for losing to BK. Why are they attacking a team that should be representing the Philippines? Whats wrong with this old guards of the PBA, the so-called "bayan ng mga superstars"?

chinito_guy
10-17-2009, 01:46 PM
Hey guys, how about the cheap shot of Ronnie Matias? upon watching the replay of the game, this one is really the most obvious among the 4, I have seen Matias played in the PBL, but I never saw him do those cheap shots. Is this his first time to do this? or anyone here have watched this guy cheap shot anyone before? I really would like to think that it was his emotion that got in the way and he did that on his own and not because he was instructed to?... ???

joelex
10-17-2009, 02:04 PM
Hey guys, how about the cheap shot of Ronnie Matias? upon watching the replay of the game, this one is really the most obvious among the 4, I have seen Matias played in the PBL, but I never saw him do those cheap shots. Is this his first time to do this? or anyone here have watched this guy cheap shot anyone before? I really would like to think that it was his emotion that got in the way and he did that on his own and not because he was instructed to?... ???


Matias is a DIRTY player. Ever since ive seen him play during his UM days in NAASCU and for all the talent he has, ive always thought this guy would not have a hard time finding someone to stand up to him when he goes pro. Believe me, mapapa away yan sa PBA sa di malayong panahon.

McCoy
10-17-2009, 02:54 PM
that's PBA, ever since ganyan na ang PBA its part of the game ika nga. and tama lng na maging hard ang laro ng mga PBA teams sa Smart Gilas kya nga sila nag-guest sa PBA pra mahasa ang laro nila sa mabigatan at pisikal na laban. preparation nila yan lalo na kapag middle east team ang kalaban nila. hindi pwede iyakin doon! hard kung hard ang laro. hindi pwede yun kapag natira lang eh, sumbong agad coach at tameme nlng! dapat matutong lumaban. kita nyo bang maglaro mga player ng Iran at Lebanon? what happen sa China non ini-hard play sila ng Iran! ayun talo! kya tama lang na hindi- i-beybi ng PBA ang Smart-Gilas

McCoy
10-17-2009, 02:58 PM
Arboleda just reached his top. After years of hooliganism even before having Guiao as coach, he just totally blew it with 2 cheap shots on Casio and a ridicolous sahod on Baracael. I could just feel the anger and disgust of both commentators. Never mind him attacking the fan who was reported to have had a mouthful to say anyway, kahit wala yon, this guy just needs to be banned for good.


kung talagang taga-Ateneo yung nabugbog na fan ni arboleda, di magugustuhan ng mga taga Ateneo yan, yari si Wynne pag nagkataon.


comment lng kaibigan, pwede rin magalit ang mga taga-Ateneo kay Arboleda pero baka napahiya rin ang mga taga-Ateneo sa inasal non mama na ang lakas ng loob na bengahin si Arboleda tapos non sinugod sya parang naging basang sisiw at umurong ang ?????

joelex
10-17-2009, 02:59 PM
that's PBA, ever since ganyan na ang PBA its part of the game ika nga. and tama lng na maging hard ang laro ng mga PBA teams sa Smart Gilas kya nga sila nag-guest sa PBA pra mahasa ang laro nila sa mabigatan at pisikal na laban. preparation nila yan lalo na kapag middle east team ang kalaban nila. hindi pwede iyakin doon! hard kung hard ang laro. hindi pwede yun kapag natira lang eh, sumbong agad coach at tameme nlng! dapat matutong lumaban. kita nyo bang maglaro mga player ng Iran at Lebanon? what happen sa China non ini-hard play sila ng Iran! ayun talo! kya tama lang na hindi- i-beybi ng PBA ang Smart-Gilas



Mabuti nga at walang reklamo ang mga player ng Gilas kahit si Casio bugbog na kay Arboleda. Umiyak ba? Hindi naman a? Hindi pisikal ang laro ni Arboleda, madumi talaga. Iba ang pisikal sa nananakit. Kung player mo sahurin, di ka ba magagalit?

BigBlue
10-17-2009, 03:22 PM
Arboleda just reached his top. After years of hooliganism even before having Guiao as coach, he just totally blew it with 2 cheap shots on Casio and a ridicolous sahod on Baracael. I could just feel the anger and disgust of both commentators. Never mind him attacking the fan who was reported to have had a mouthful to say anyway, kahit wala yon, this guy just needs to be banned for good.


kung talagang taga-Ateneo yung nabugbog na fan ni arboleda, di magugustuhan ng mga taga Ateneo yan, yari si Wynne pag nagkataon.


comment lng kaibigan, pwede rin magalit ang mga taga-Ateneo kay Arboleda pero baka napahiya rin ang mga taga-Ateneo sa inasal non mama na ang lakas ng loob na bengahin si Arboleda tapos non sinugod sya parang naging basang sisiw at umurong ang ?????


Mccoy, i suggest you visit BEN and check what Ateneans think of heckling :) basang sisiw? i dont think so, malamang sa hindi, iniisip na nya magkano ang sisingilin nya k arboleda in court.

easter
10-17-2009, 08:37 PM
I have been watching the PBA for years and this BK - Gilas game was too rugged. Physical ang PBA but this game was down right dirty and it took out a lot on the young players of Gilas. Casio, Tiu and Baracael took very very hard fouls from Arboleda and Matias. It was a crazy game.

Solar Sports could have taken out some of the thunder of the NCAA Final Four from Studio 23 if they only televised this game live.

D_I_A
10-18-2009, 12:31 AM
Arboleda just reached his top. After years of hooliganism even before having Guiao as coach, he just totally blew it with 2 cheap shots on Casio and a ridicolous sahod on Baracael. I could just feel the anger and disgust of both commentators. Never mind him attacking the fan who was reported to have had a mouthful to say anyway, kahit wala yon, this guy just needs to be banned for good.


kung talagang taga-Ateneo yung nabugbog na fan ni arboleda, di magugustuhan ng mga taga Ateneo yan, yari si Wynne pag nagkataon.


comment lng kaibigan, pwede rin magalit ang mga taga-Ateneo kay Arboleda pero baka napahiya rin ang mga taga-Ateneo sa inasal non mama na ang lakas ng loob na bengahin si Arboleda tapos non sinugod sya parang naging basang sisiw at umurong ang ?????


kaso ang tanong din dun,ano ang nagtulak sa dun sa nabugbog at bakit nya tuluyang minumura si Arboleda, hindi ba dahil sa 2 flagrant fouls nito sa mga bata? is it really necessary? kahit sabihin mo na physical ang laro, pano mo ipapaliwanag ang nakitang pagtira hindi ba?

RockLobster
10-18-2009, 02:02 AM
comment lng kaibigan, pwede rin magalit ang mga taga-Ateneo kay Arboleda pero baka napahiya rin ang mga taga-Ateneo sa inasal non mama na ang lakas ng loob na bengahin si Arboleda tapos non sinugod sya parang naging basang sisiw at umurong ang ?????


Prerogative ng fans ang mang-heckle. Hindi prerogative ng PROFESSIONAL player ang manugod at manakit ng fan. Alam ng players that they will be booed and called names by fans of the other team. They should know better. 'Yung fan, kung alam niyang mapapaaway siya with a player because of heckling, eh 'di sana nagsama siya ng mga bouncers para patas ang laban. Namputsa, nalalaos na nga 'tong PBA, tapos 'yung mga taong bumubuhay sa liga, a.k.a. the FANS, ang malalagay pa sa alanganin dahil lang sa mga pikon na player tulad ni ARBOLEDA?

That fan went to watch a good game of basketball and see the young Smart-Gilas team show what it can do. But this bully and hooligan name ARBOLEDA comes along and makes a mockery of the sport. Ibang klase din naman 'tong si SON-IN-LAW. He can dish out, but he can't take one himself. Yes, the young Smart-Gilas players need a physical game to toughen them up, but that's not how this POLITICIAN-led team named after an AMERICAN SANDWICH played them. They were ROUGH and DIRTY, no question about it. Those directly and indirectly responsible should be SANCTIONED.

dioning
10-18-2009, 11:22 AM
dapat lang pagtitirahin yang mga players ng smart gilas para tumapang at tumibay sila! para pag dating sa international competition, kahit na higante, malaki at sobrang pisikal nung kalaban e walang atrasan. banatan kung banatan! walang matatakot. maiging sanayan yan para sa kanila.

yan naman si Arboleda mababa ang pinag-aralan niyan e. pinulot lang naman sa kangkungan yan e. Katigbak should have known better dahil mas mataas pinag-aralan niya kesa kay Arboleda. susmaryosep murahin mo ba naman ng todo todo yung isang mababa pinag-aralan kesa sa iyo e umbag talaga aabutin mo. atsaka dapat nanood siya dun sa upper box para pag minura niya e di siya kaya abutan ni Mareng Winnie.

dioning
10-18-2009, 11:53 AM
magandang experience para sa smart gilas ang makatikim ng maduming laro diyan sa PBA. pampatibay at pampalakas ng loob din yan.

D_I_A
10-18-2009, 03:58 PM
magandang experience para sa smart gilas ang makatikim ng maduming laro diyan sa PBA. pampatibay at pampalakas ng loob din yan.

ayos sa pagrationalize ha?
iba ang pagiging pisikal sa sahod at ala wrestling na tira. life at career threatening ang dating ng mga tira nila. gusto mo pa atang maulit yung mga case nila Caidic at Samboy Lim eh, ikaw ba magbabayad ng pampa-ospital, pa-opera, rehab at iba pang pangangailangan ng mga batang ito pag naging inutil at paralisado sila pag na-injure sila dahil sa kagustuhan mo na lumakas ang loob at tumibay kuno sila? basahin mo itong sinulat ni Smart Gilas PG Tiu para malaman mo kung anong pananaw ng mga players na ito di yung babanat ka kahit buhay ng mga batang ito ang nakasalalay.


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CHRIS TIU'S BLOG


Smart Gilas vs BK

Posted: 16 Oct 2009 08:52 PM PDT
Today, we got clobbered, literally and figuratively, by the 'BK Whoopers'! It was more of a boxing match than a basketball match. We expected it, but we didn't see it coming this bad.

Our offense wasn't so bad as we were still able to score 105 points and shot 47% from the field. BUT it was our defense that killed us, as we allowed 115 points for BK. We lost the rebounding battle as well by 12. BK played a great game today as well and made the necessary adjustments. They shot 59% from the field! That's excellent.

For me it's not so much about the X and O's. It was their viciousness that got us out of our normal rhythm. 4 flagrant fouls in the first half and Winnie Arboleda's "attacking a fan" moment saw our 13 point lead disappear. Our players became hesitant to drive to the basket and dive for the loose balls. Most coaches will probably instruct their players to play physical when playing against a younger, skinnier and faster team in order to intimidate them. But playing dirty, is something else. It was a fitting initiation for us in our debut game in the PBA.

It was a sorry loss for the Gilas team. We don't expect the referees to cut us some slack as seen today. It's as if there were two different standards for both teams. But that's precisely why we're in the PBA as a guest team. We're here to learn, to toughen up when playing more experienced and physical players.

It's just really embarrassing to see a veteran/franchise player behave so unprofessionally. After getting away with a slap to the face of JV Casio, an elbow again to the face of JV and a football tackle to Mac Baracael, he still hasn't had enough and goes up to the stands to beat up a Gilas fan. All that in just 3 minutes inside the court. I am really curious to see what actions or inactions the PBA will take for such actions.

Nevertheless, it was an entertaining game. See you Wednesday vs Talk and Text.

Chris

RockLobster
10-18-2009, 08:16 PM
dapat lang pagtitirahin yang mga players ng smart gilas para tumapang at tumibay sila! para pagdating sa international competition, kahit na higante, malaki at sobrang pisikal nung kalaban e walang atrasan.

Makarating ka kaya international competition kung naka-semento braso mo? O di kaya nasa ospital ka? Contradicting 'yung sinabi mo na "dapat lang pagtitirahin yang mga players" and "sa international competition... sobrang pisikal nung kalaban". Ang linaw ng consensus dito sa thread na 'to at sa iba pang mga forum na malaki ang kaibahan ng physical play sa dirty tactics.

chinito_guy
10-18-2009, 09:50 PM
dapat lang pagtitirahin yang mga players ng smart gilas para tumapang at tumibay sila! para pag dating sa international competition, kahit na higante, malaki at sobrang pisikal nung kalaban e walang atrasan. banatan kung banatan! walang matatakot. maiging sanayan yan para sa kanila.

yan naman si Arboleda mababa ang pinag-aralan niyan e. pinulot lang naman sa kangkungan yan e. Katigbak should have known better dahil mas mataas pinag-aralan niya kesa kay Arboleda. susmaryosep murahin mo ba naman ng todo todo yung isang mababa pinag-aralan kesa sa iyo e umbag talaga aabutin mo. atsaka dapat nanood siya dun sa upper box para pag minura niya e di siya kaya abutan ni Mareng Winnie.


Bro parang malia ata mindset mo, PBA fan ako, but I condemn the acts of several players of BK especially Arboleda. Napanood mo ba ang FIBA ASIA 2009? or JONES cup recently? Iexplain mo nga sakin kung san banda dun ang napanood mo na pinagtitira ng players ng IRAN or CHINA ang kalaban nila? (I made Iran and China my examples kasi sila ang Top 2 teams sa ASIA). Yung tipong 4 Flagrant Fouls sa isang half ng GAme. Kung gagawin mo example ang panunulak ni Hadadi sa Jordan player na si Habbas, alalahanin mo na hindi natuloy ang game na yun dahil dun.

Physical ang game sa International OO tama yun, pero baluktot ata pananaw natin tungkol sa pagpapatibay ng loob at pagDidisgrasya sa players. Meron mga hard fouls na accepted, meron mga hard fouls na kahit kailan hindi dapat pinapayagan.

lurkinggood
10-18-2009, 10:07 PM
This incident might pave the way for Arboleda's long overdue 'retirement' from the PBA...

korn666333
10-19-2009, 12:28 PM
Kung sabihin natin na dapat ganon ang laro laban sa gilas or dapat improve yung muscles nila? bobo naman mga tao no. indi alam kung ano ang physical game, commited 4 flagrant fouls?in a game? thats more than a physical play. When you say physical play yan ang good defense. Ang physical na sinasabi ng iba jan sa kanilang paningin ay yung babalian? bogok naman! Alalahanin nyo mga tol, developmental sila,batang bata pa sila,may future, for flag and pride.
then why ganon laro ng PBA? di ko sinasabi na dapat malambot sila sa smart gilas, what i mean is play good defense, not saktan ang player. Takot ba ang PBA na mapahiya sila sa gilas kung ano makukuha ng team nila in the future? professionals who can't even win a championship. SuckS! Dying PBA! Rise of the ABL! Bubulok na ang PBA!.

Mr. Pangilinan, sana sali mo na ang Talk n Text mo sa ABL.

D_I_A
10-19-2009, 03:20 PM
Kung sabihin natin na dapat ganon ang laro laban sa gilas or dapat improve yung muscles nila? bobo naman mga tao no. indi alam kung ano ang physical game, commited 4 flagrant fouls?in a game? thats more than a physical play. When you say physical play yan ang good defense. Ang physical na sinasabi ng iba jan sa kanilang paningin ay yung babalian? bogok naman! Alalahanin nyo mga tol, developmental sila,batang bata pa sila,may future, for flag and pride.
then why ganon laro ng PBA? di ko sinasabi na dapat malambot sila sa smart gilas, what i mean is play good defense, not saktan ang player. Takot ba ang PBA na mapahiya sila sa gilas kung ano makukuha ng team nila in the future? professionals who can't even win a championship. SuckS! Dying PBA! Rise of the ABL! Bubulok na ang PBA!.

Mr. Pangilinan, sana sali mo na ang Talk n Text mo sa ABL.




malay natin, baka ang SMC at Pangilinan teams ay sumali sa ABL after 3-5 years. yan ang katapusan ng PBA

digitalsuperman
10-19-2009, 08:39 PM
as far as i know. pangilinan will bankroll the second philippine team in ABL in the comming years..

D_I_A
10-20-2009, 12:53 AM
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Toroman says Gilas still has lot to learn
SPORTING CHANCE By Joaquin Henson (The Philippine Star) Updated October 20, 2009 12:00 AM

Smart-Gilas coach Rajko Toroman said yesterday the national team will learn to play physical from the experience of competing in the PBA Philippine Cup but qualified it won’t mean roughhousing or banging bodies with the intent to hurt.

“In the Euroleague, the game is very physical but not dirty,” said Toroman. “Players use their bodies and legs but not their elbows or hands to hit others. There’s a big difference between playing physical and playing dirty.”

Toroman said he was taken aback by Burger King’s extremely physical play in the first half of the Whoppers’ 115-105 win over Gilas at the Araneta Coliseum last Friday.

“In my 46 years of watching basketball, I’ve never seen anything like it,” said the Serbian, noting he began to follow the sport when he was in fifth grade. “There were four flagrant fouls called against Burger King in the first half and I think two more should’ve been called because of the kind of contact that was made on our players. I couldn’t believe how our players were getting undercut and hit on the face with elbows.”

PBA chairman and Burger King representative to the Board of Governors Lito Alvarez arrived late for the game and reportedly went to the Whoppers dugout at halftime to reprimand the players. In the second half, no rough stuff was evident.

Toroman said the baptism of fire was a learning experience.

“We can’t be intimidated,” said Toroman. “The officiating is something we’ll have to adjust to. For instance, I noticed when we ran our pick-and-roll, the defender would hold on to our screener. That made it almost impossible for the screener to either roll to the basket or pop for a shot. I think out of about 30 pick-and-rolls we ran for the game, the defender was called for a foul just once.”

Despite Burger King’s physical play, the Whoppers were whistled for only 21 fouls compared to Smart-Gilas’ 32. Burger King went to the line for 41 free throws, converting 24, while Smart-Gilas took only 21 foul shots, sinking 15.

Smart-Gilas naturalization candidate C. J. Giles couldn’t get his rhythm with four fouls in the first half. He was called for his fifth personal after checking in during the third period and his sixth in the fourth. In all, Giles played only 22 minutes and five teammates logged more time. He finished with 12 points on 6-of-7 field goals and seven rebounds.

“They called it tight on C. J.,” lamented Toroman. “In the third period, he was called for pushing off Richard Yee in a rebound play. I think it was a flop because it wasn’t necessary for C. J. to push off Yee – he’s bigger and taller. Then, C. J. got his last foul, sealing Yee who did another flop like C. J. pushed him to get position.”

PBA media affairs bureau chief Willie Marcial said the game tape will be reviewed closely by league officials to look into possible lapses.

But Toroman said he’s not complaining.

“Burger King deserved to win,” he continued. “(Ronjay) Buenafe played a career game. He hit three-pointers about two or three feet from the new extended line. And (Gary) David exploded. But (Beau) Belga scoring 17 points and grabbing 11 rebounds was unforgiveable for us. We had a 13-point lead but we couldn’t hold on. Burger King also shot extremely well throughout the game – 60 percent from the field compared to our 47 percent. It’s hard to beat a team that shoots as well as that.”

Toroman said despite scoring 18 points, prized recruit Japeth Aguilar didn’t play up to par.

“Japeth played 37 minutes and got six rebounds while Belga played 31 minutes and got 11 rebounds,” said Toroman. “I told Japeth with his height, he has to play more inside and help under the boards. Instead, he took 10 three-point shots. Sure, he made four but we’d rather our big guy playing inside than outside. He sometimes looked a little lost on the court. He’s still adjusting to our system which gives a lot of space for our big guys outside – which is probably why he finds himself taking those three-point shots.”

Toroman said he’s not discounting the possibility that Aguilar was intimidated by Burger King’s physical play.

“Maybe, the referees should’ve anticipated it would be a physical game because of what happened when Smart-Gilas beat Powerade,” said a PBA fan. “Coach Yeng (Guiao) was out to prove a point.”

The game almost got out of hand with the succession of flagrant fouls called on Burger King. Even rookie Ronnie Matias was whistled for a flagrant. With emotions running high, Burger King’s Wynne Arboleda barged into the patron section to assault a heckling fan in the second period. After Arboleda was pulled back, he had to be restrained from attacking the fan once more as he was led out of the court.

The fan, identified as Alain Katigbak, was reportedly traumatized and shocked by the attack.

“He is also angry that he has been made to look like the guilty party rather than the victim in media,” said a source. “His version is plain and simple – he’s just a fan who wants to cheer for his team and have fun. He pays for his tickets. He has a five-year-old kid and his wife is six months into a critical pregnancy. He claims he never uttered profanities. But he admits telling Arboleda ‘matanda ka na – kung Powerade di manalo, kayo pa’ and ‘huwag kang manakit at national team ‘yan.’”

The source added that Katigbak will file charges in court.

pachador
10-20-2009, 01:10 AM
the PBA games will be a blessing in disguise because the Gilas team will learn how to overcome intimidation and adjust to unfair referee calls not to mention improve team chemistry and fine-tune Toroman's system. better learn now and lose than in the upcoming actual FIBA competitions. after all the Gilas team is in the PBA for practice and master the Toroman system. The Gilas team has to gell or re-jell more as a team specially since, Slaughter, and hopefully Fajardo and Lutz still have to join/re-join the team, and Aguilar/Rabeh are still learning Toro's system....it will be a great learning experience for the kids as they have a tournament coming up in the netherlands(Haarlem tournament) in december(is that correct? ). Let's thank Mr. Bully Arboleda for the learning experience the Gilas kids will gain

McCoy
10-20-2009, 06:54 AM
ang sinasabi ko lang, dapat maging handa ang smart gilas team sa mga physical na laro. what nga kung gawin sa kanila yun ganoon laro ng mga middle east team. ibig sabihin mag-play safe nrin sila toroman para wag masaktan mga player!? kahit matalo na! kaya sila nasa PBA para matuto at yun pagiging physical sa laro kasama sa basketball yun. para kapag nangyari sa kanila yun handa na sila.
alangan i-beybi ng PBA ang mga player ng smart gilas!!!!
and regarding kay mr katigbak hindi ka susugurin ni arboileda kundi mo pinag-salitaan ng kung ano-ano yun tao. wala kang karapatan para insultuhin yun tao! paano kung syo gawin yun? tip ko lang syo pipiliin mo yun mumurahin mo! kita mo nangyari syo!!!!

residentshooter
10-20-2009, 08:08 AM
handa naman sila sa pisikal na laro... hindi lang sila handa sa mga boksingero :D balita ko sasama na daw si pacman sa mga susunod na practice sessions ng Gilas (pagkatapos ng laban nila ni cotto) ;D pano kung ganyan palagi yung laro ng PBA teams laban sa Gilas? baka pagkatapos ng tournament, magpapa-tryout na ulit si Toroman dahil ubos na players niya sa injury. hindi man lang umabot sa FIBA tournament para dun bugbugin ng mga middle east teams hehehe :P

seriously though, tama naman na pisikal ang laro ng basketbol. kaso kung sadyang mananakit na pwedeng ikawala mo sa team dahil sa injury, ibang usapan na yan. kawalan yan ng respeto sa kalaban bilang kapwa manlalaro at sa laro mismo.:)

elvis
10-20-2009, 08:35 AM
I don't think that those who are supportive of Smart Gilas are necessarily complaining about the physical play of the PBA teams. On the contrary, and consistent with the views of most of us here, it is precisely the more physical nature of basketball in the PBA that Toroman, et al. want the Smart Gilas players to experience, adjust to and learn from if they are to succeed in international competition against the likes of Jordan, Iran and other big, bruising teams.

However, it is the dirty plays that are ruining the game. The Gilas players themselves did not complain when they were being mauled. The fans themselves, the posters here in GF and heck even the regular PBA commentators who covered the game between Gilas and BK, are the ones who were and are calling attention to the unwarranted (is it ever warranted?) and dangerous whacks to the head, elbows to the chest and face, and undercutting.

It appears that, if not exactly instructed by Guiao, Baculi and Nadurata, the BK coaching staff at the very least condoned and turned a blind eye to the antics of Arboleda, Matias and others. It took the dug-out visit by BK PBA rep Lito Alvarez to put a stop to the nonsense and which was evident in the 2nd half when BK finally decided to play basketball and not American football or Aussie Rules rugby. It showed that BK was good enough to defeat Smart Gilas without the dirty plays. (Of course it can also be said that the 1st half mauling of the Smart Gilas players took its toll on them, not to mention the fouls called on Gilas. It's ironic that in spite of the more physical play of BK it is Smart Gilas which was assessed more fouls.)

easter
10-20-2009, 09:18 AM
I have been pretty reluctant on this PBA stint and now I am beginning to doubt the wisdom of it even more. Sure we are going to make them tougher and learn some things here and there but to what extent? It seems the risk and rewards in participating in the PBA does not favor the Smart Gilas players at all.

dioning
10-20-2009, 12:09 PM
dapat pagsasampalin yang mga gilas habang naglalaro para di lang tumapang kundi matuto ring dumiskarte sa laro. kaya hangang hanga ako dyan kay Casio at Baracael. ngumiti lang kahit pinagtitira. walang reklamo. no whining at all. tunay na lalake. lalong tatapang ang mga yan. madaming matututunang diskarte sa pang-gugulang yang mga gilas at magagamit nila itong pang-gulang sa mga malalaking kalaban tulad ng China at mga Middle Eastern countries. maliliit nga mga Pilipino pero mas madaling patumbahin ang mga higante. gulangan lang yan. dapat nga maka-experience ng isang free-for all ang gilas. lalong magba-bonding ang mga yan. they will closely look out for each other. para pag may titirada sa isa sa kanila, siguradong babawian nila eto.

CrossOver
10-20-2009, 12:51 PM
Ito pagkakaiba ng "pisikal" & "dirty" game paki-ulit ulit lang meron medyo hindi maka-intindi kasi.


“In the Euroleague, the game is very physical but not dirty,” said Toroman. “Players use their bodies and legs but not their elbows or hands to hit others. There’s a big difference between playing physical and playing dirty.”

Toroman said he was taken aback by Burger King’s extremely physical play in the first half of the Whoppers’ 115-105 win over Gilas at the Araneta Coliseum last Friday.

“In my 46 years of watching basketball, I’ve never seen anything like it,” said the Serbian, noting he began to follow the sport when he was in fifth grade. “There were four flagrant fouls called against Burger King in the first half and I think two more should’ve been called because of the kind of contact that was made on our players. I couldn’t believe how our players were getting undercut and hit on the face with elbows.”

pachador
10-20-2009, 01:10 PM
Actually, the angry feelings that BK had is very common feeling when an older team plays a younger team that is beating them on speed and athleticism. The older team retaliates by getting physical as a way of telling the youngsters to respect them(repect the elders ::)

I play about 6 to 8 pickup games a week and i always notice the above behavior with older teams although in my case i never hurt young players even if i am getting "schooled". i just give honest defense thas why i'm popular with the young kids over here as i act like a mentor to them. the reality is that as one gets older its hard to keep up with crossovers and a quick one step to the basket unless you make gulang . :D

anyway, gilas will go through this toughening process. they'll eventually get used playing against the nasty gurangs ;D

dioning
10-22-2009, 10:43 AM
whether pisikal or dirty ang laro ng kalaban nila dapat ma-experience ito pareho ng mga gilas para ika nga e hindi sila ma-intimidate. kaya dapat pagsasahurin at pagtutuhurin yang mga yan para maging mabangis sila sa court ala Jawo, Tembong, Turo, Arazas at Badion!

lefthandside
10-22-2009, 10:48 AM
http://sports.inquirer.net/sport/basketball/view/20091022-231575/Who-gave-the-green-light

korn666333
10-22-2009, 12:01 PM
syempre pag fan ako ng smart gilas tapos binabastos ang laro ng team ko...
i would do the same...
still arboleda dont have the right to hurt anyone,fan yan without fan walang PBA.
few years from now wala na PBA. ABL na pinapanuod.

richchard28
10-23-2009, 02:30 PM
gudluck, boys!
cj, be strong and be brave. keep up the faith.
go gilas!

richchard28
10-23-2009, 03:50 PM
52-47 bgk

http://teampilipinas.info/2009/05/dzsr-sports-radio-918-khz-am.html

McCoy
10-23-2009, 09:22 PM
wag na lang lumaro sa PBA ang Smart Gilas maki-tune-up na lang sila sa mga collegiate team or sa mga Asian neighbors natin. or sumali na lang sila ABL. doon tignan natin kung paano laro mararanasan ng Smart Gilas, physical ba or dirty game!?

pachador
10-30-2009, 07:41 AM
hi guys,

I'll just give an alternative view Anyway, I kinda agree with the PBA to change their earlier decision and to now consider games against Gilas as no-bearing. Why ?

Think about it. Gilas is in the PBA to practice their patterns not to mention using the games against PBA teams as an opportunity for Gilas to gell as a team.

On the other hand, the PBA teams are more or less gelling already and they allready got their team system well-practiced. Therefore, the PBA
teams are playing to win whether its against Gilas or not . On the other hand, GILAS will not progress as a team if they go into each game playing to win all-out because GILAS also needs to practice and develop further Toroman's various euro tactics.

so if the PBA games become no-bearing, then in theory, both the PBA teams and Gilas will use their games against each other to perfect their team patterns.

of course, the added bonus for the PBA, is that if the PBA teams will lose games against GILAS, it will let them save face since the games are non-bearing. ;D This is more so now with the impending arrival of the two Visayan giants.

joelex
10-30-2009, 11:30 AM
hi guys,

I'll just give an alternative view Anyway, I kinda agree with the PBA to change their earlier decision and to now consider games against Gilas as no-bearing. Why ?

Think about it. Gilas is in the PBA to practice their patterns not to mention using the games against PBA teams as an opportunity for Gilas to gell as a team.

On the other hand, the PBA teams are more or less gelling already and they allready got their team system well-practiced. Therefore, the PBA
teams are playing to win whether its against Gilas or not . On the other hand, GILAS will not progress as a team if they go into each game playing to win all-out because GILAS also needs to practice and develop further Toroman's various euro tactics.

so if the PBA games become no-bearing, then in theory, both the PBA teams and Gilas will use their games against each other to perfect their team patterns.

of course, the added bonus for the PBA, is that if the PBA teams will lose games against GILAS, it will let them save face since the games are non-bearing. ;D This is more so now with the impending arrival of the two Visayan giants.


so much for saving face if smart gilas is 0-3 and losing by an avg of 20..

Schortsanitis
10-30-2009, 05:07 PM
Ha-ha-ha .... After the PBA teams bamboozle Smart-Gilas for three straight games, its as if the PBA is now playing referee and saying, "take it easy, boys" to the PBA teams.

I wonder what happened to all the predictions that Smart-Gilas will run roughshod over all the PBA teams, as "predicted" by all those Smart-Gilas nuthuggers at the Interbasket forums?

LOL.

Tigercub
11-01-2009, 09:11 PM
bat hindi nagpadala ang SBP ng teams sa 3on3 sa Asian Indoor Games? ???

amdgc82
11-01-2009, 10:22 PM
bat hindi nagpadala ang SBP ng teams sa 3on3 sa Asian Indoor Games? ???


Philippine Sports Commission (PSC) only approved RP's participation to AIG in seven sports (shuttlecock, boxing, billiards, athletics, chess, muay Thai and archery).

Tigercub
11-02-2009, 10:19 PM
sana pinondohan muna from the private sector if the PSC can't afford it
wala rin tayo contingent sa athletics, billiards, archery, pero ok lang since they're preparing for the upcoming SEA GAMES

amdgc82
11-03-2009, 06:40 AM
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Slaughter refuses to join RP Smart Gilas for now
Monday, November 2, 2009
By Marian C. Baring

GREG Slaughter, the seven-foot basketball stalwart of the University of the Visayas Green (UV) Lancers, saw his basketball career catapulted to greater heights with several offers including an all-important stint with the Smart-Gilas RP team.

But Slaughter is taking it easy.

“He is not signing anything with Smart Gilas just yet. He decided to still train and play for the national team but also still maintain his scholarship with UV because according to him he wants to graduate,” said UV head coach Elmer “Boy” Cabahug.

After towing UV to an unprecedented ninth straight title in the Cebu Schools Athletic Foundation Inc. (Cesafi), UV’s prized center, decided to take things slowly.

After UV agreed to let him go if he decided to suit up for the national team, it was expected that the Filipino-American would rush back to Manila to play for the Smart Gilas team in the PBA.

However, Slaughter extended his stay in Cebu and decided he wanted to finish school.

“He said he still wanted to play for UV next season and finish his accounting management course. This actually made us very happy not just because we will still have him in Cesafi next year, but because out of his own resolve, he chose this,” said Cabahug.

Cabahug said they have always made it a point that Slaughter is given a free hand at making decisions about his career.

“We are here to guide him. Sir Eddie (Gullas, UV president) was very impressed at how he weighed his options and made his decision because at least we know if he decided a career in basketball, he will already have a degree. And if he graduated with UV, we can really claim that he is a UV product,” said Cabahug.

“Basketball is temporary, really. If he has a degree then he has something to fall back on,” said Cabahug.

With Slaughter’s decision, the same regimen will be followed with him jetting back and forth Cebu and Manila, wherever his services are needed.

nastrans
11-03-2009, 11:43 AM
sana pinondohan muna from the private sector if the PSC can't afford it
wala rin tayo contingent sa athletics, billiards, archery, pero ok lang since they're preparing for the upcoming SEA GAMES


With the way PSC and POC clashing, talagang mahirap makakuha ng funding. Yun ngang SEA Games lineup hindi pa rin mafinalize e.

Schortsanitis
11-03-2009, 01:03 PM
Nice move, Greg. Good luck with your looming career at Liga Pilipinas. Am sure you will be an MVP there. LOL.

D_I_A
11-04-2009, 02:58 PM
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Toroman: PBA to lose exciting tiffs

by Rey Joble

11/3/2009

SERBIAN coach Rajko Toroman, the much-celebrated mentor of the Smart-Gilas team, believes the Philippine Basketball Association will lose some of the exciting games in the ongoing KFC-PBA Philippine Cup following the decision of commissioner Sonny Barrios to make the national developmental pool members’ games as no bearing.

“I have no problems with that,” Toroman told Standard Today, referring to the league’s decision to render the first three games of PBA teams against his squad as no bearing. “But I felt the PBA will lose some of the exciting games.”

Toroman’s team is leaving after completing 10 tune-up games in the PBA to compete in Amsterdam and Dubai.

“The PBA is not our priority. Our priority is making the Olympics via our good showing in the 2011 Fiba Asia Championship,” said Toroman. “The real test for us are the coming international tournaments.”

The first of the lined-up tournaments for Smart-Gilas is the Haarlem basketball tournament in Amsterdam. The national team aspirants will be away from their family this Christmas as the squads will be competing against the national teams of Russia, the Netherlands, national and club champion teams of Brazil and South America.

Smart-Gilas will represent Asia in this tournament from Dec. 26 to 30.

“This tournament is a bit tougher than the PBA, so we expect to learn so many things from this tournament,” said Toroman.

After the Haarlem tournament in Amsterdam, Smart- Gilas will buckle down to work early next year when it joins invitational tournaments in Dubai from Jan. 14 to 21.

D_I_A
11-17-2009, 12:24 AM
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Giles out of Smart Gilas
By Joaquin Henson (The Philippine Star) Updated November 17, 2009 12:00 AM

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MANILA, Philippines - Smart-Gilas’ would-be naturalized player C. J. Giles, once considering to settle down permanently in Manila to set up a T-shirt business, has been cut from the Philippine national basketball team, it was learned yesterday.

Giles, 24, and his brother Malcolm left Manila for the US last Sunday. Giles’ former Oregon State teammate Wes, who accompanied him here, followed yesterday morning.

There was no explanation from the SBP as to why Giles was released but the speculation was he proved to be a handful for Serbian coach Rajko Toroman. Giles reportedly used to show up for practice with a hangover from heavy drinking the night before. It was also rumored that he tested positive for marijuana in a drug examination and in a fit of dysfunctional behavior, beat up his brother, banging his head on a wall to later send him to the hospital
for stitches.

Giles had a history of irresponsibility as a varsity player at Kansas and Oregon State where he was similarly cut. He was once considered one of the US’ top high school cagers and even played for the Los Angeles Lakers in the NBA preseason last year despite being undrafted.

At the FIBA-Asia Champions Cup in Jakarta early this year, Giles powered the Philippines to fifth place, averaging 18.8 points, 13.2 rebounds, 2.3 blocked shots and 1.7 steals in six games. He played a key role in Smart-Gilas’ 98-69 masscare of Powerade Team Pilipinas in a charity exhibition game at the Araneta Coliseum last month.

A source from Smart-Gilas said Giles begged for a second chance to stay with the team but it was too late for a reconsideration. He was even granted a one-week home leave during the PBA Philippine Cup to visit his ailing four-year-old son Jaden in California and his mother in Seattle. But when he came back, Giles’ poor attitude was unchanged.

Giles sat out Smart-Gilas’ 96-95 loss to Sta. Lucia Realty last Friday, purportedly because of an ankle sprain. In his last PBA game, he scored 11 points as Smart-Gilas defeated Coca-Cola, 98-93, last Nov. 6.

“He didn’t turn out to be a good influence on his teammates,” said a source. “If he stayed, it would’ve gotten worse.”

With Giles gone for good, the SBP is now scouting for a replacement. In the short list are 7-foot Earl Barron of the University of Memphis, 6-10 Shaun Pruitt of the University of Illinois and 6-11 Jamal Sampson of the University of California at Berkeley.

Barron, 28, played for Red Bull as a PBA import in 2005 then saw action for the Miami Heat in three NBA seasons. He went on to suit up in Italy and was cut by the New Orleans Hornets during the NBA offseason. Pruitt, who turns 24 next week, averaged 12.6 points and 7.3 rebounds for Illinois in the 2007-08 NCAA campaign. Sampson, 26, was Utah’s second round pick in the 2002 NBA draft and has played for Milwaukee, the Lakers, Charlotte, Sacramento and Denver in five NBA seasons.

Sampson is highly recommended by scouts. California coach Ben Braun said, “Jamal is such a presence on the court – he’s going to alter your game from a defensive standpoint because he can block shots and offensively, he’s a legitimate threat on the block and he can step out to the high post.”

In 2004-05, Sampson averaged an NBA career high 5.3 rebounds with Charlotte. At Mater Dei High School in Santa Ana, California, Sampson averaged 16.5 points, 10 rebounds and 2.4 blocked shots as he led the varsity to the California state title with a 33-2 record as a senior in 2000-01.

Meanwhile, Smart-Gilas is negotiating to arrange a Middle East tour next month in preparation for the Dubai invitationals on Jan. 14-21. The tour may involve playing against top-caliber clubs in Qatar, Kuwait and Bahrain before overseas Filipino workers.

The proposed Middle East tour will replace the Haarlem tournament
that has been scrapped this year. Smart-Gilas was booked to play in the six-team Amsterdam meet on Dec. 26-30. The competition would’ve brought in the Brazilian and Dutch national squads, the Russian national developmental team, a US collegiate selection and a top Brazilian club.

Luc Vergoossen, director of the Haarlem Basketball Week, blamed the cancellation on the tournament’s previous owner, BV Slam Amsterdam, for refusing to cooperate in the transition process. Vergoosen said the tournament will be back next year and assured Smart-Gilas of a slot in Holland’s most prestigious basketball event.

thadzonline
11-17-2009, 09:38 AM
Maybe naturalize someone with roots and connections to the Philippines, those who have Filipino lineage but unable to acquire natural citizenship.

digitalsuperman
11-17-2009, 09:58 AM
thats a great idea pareng thadz...

D_I_A
11-18-2009, 01:06 AM
thats a great idea pareng thadz...


kaso kailangan mga 6'10" pataas. kung below that, sayang ang slot.

D_I_A
11-18-2009, 01:11 AM
thats a great idea pareng thadz...


kaso kailangan mga 6'10" pataas. kung below that, sayang ang slot.

digitalsuperman
11-18-2009, 06:37 AM
yep..dapat lang.. dapat mga 6'11 pataas..

thadzonline
11-18-2009, 09:10 AM
yun nga lang, it will limit the field kasi most Fil-fors are below 6'11 din and are small for centers by international standards

digitalsuperman
11-18-2009, 01:52 PM
di naman siguor filipino foriegner.. kahit na may asawang filipina o kaya yung merong kapamilya na pilipino.hehe..pwedi na yon..

D_I_A
11-19-2009, 03:45 PM
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NOW A THREAT TO GILAS’ 2012 BID

Giles junked RP team for Lebanon journey

By Julius Manicad

11/19/2009

JOHOR BAHRU — The Philippines’ bid to earn a slot in the 2012 London Olympics could be derailed by the same person the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas had initially tasked to lead them there: CJ Giles.

Shortly after getting the boot from Smart Gilas-Team Pilipinas for supposed unprofessional conduct, the 6-foot-11 talented American signed a hefty contract with Sporting Al-Riyadi Beirut, a Lebanese squad that served as Smart Gilas’ bitter nemesis in the previous Fiba-Asia Champions Cup.

Giles’ stunning, and bold, decision was subject of discussion here as Lebanese basketball officials admitted the Oregon State University star stayed on their radar since the Champions Cup last May.

They, in fact, even tried to recruit him together with Gilas skipper Mark Barroca in the heat of the tourney, but Giles decided to stick it out with the Filipinos, vowing to lead them to a golden finish in the 2011 Fiba Asia Championship — which the Philippines hoped would be its gateway to the Olympics.

Sources refused to divulge the specifics of the contract, but confirmed that it dwarfed the one-year, P8.64-million contract he signed with the SBP earlier this year.

Giles is expected to replace the ineffective Mamadou N’Daye in the starting frontline, sharing minutes with one-time PBA import Nate Johnson, naturalized import Joe Vogel and hometown hero Fadi El-Khatib in the Lebanese Basketball League where Al-Riyadi Beirut is a 19-time champion.

He is also being groomed to banner the Lebanese national squad which is already oozing with talent with the vast improvement of quarterback
Mahmoud Ali and forward Matt Freije, and the naturalization of Jackson Vroman, the former Iranian import who torched the Filipinos with 42 points en route to the title of the Champions Cup.

“That’s the biggest irony: we might see CJ again in future international competitions,” a Filipino basketball official said, speaking on condition of anonymity. “But what can we do? He was given the chance and yet he squandered it.”

Giles, a 24-year-old defensive monster who shrugged off an injury to submit 20 points in Gilas’ 91-86 victory over Lebanon in the Champions Cup, was dropped from Smart Gilas’ lineup after reportedly showing erratic behavior. In one instance, a reliable source said, he reported in an official game still drunk and tired from a night-long party.

He was also suspected to have allegedly been using illegal substance.

But Lebanese basketball officials still gambled on hiring him, believing Giles could help them overcome the powerful Iranian, Korean and Chinese squads in the upcoming continental meets.

With Giles out for good, SBP is looking at three prospects; former NBA campaigners Earl Barron, Jamal Sampson and Shaun Pruitt.

gienecees
11-19-2009, 04:12 PM
^ :o This development really sucks...

Thanks for the post!

CrossOver
11-19-2009, 05:56 PM
Sayang naman itong si Giles gumugol na siya ng panahon sa RP Team. but atleast nanyari ito kesa kung kelan malapit na ang FIBA Asia 2011

rabbaddal
11-26-2009, 04:01 AM
I suspected all along that Giles would never be the same after the TNT gang-up. Emotionally speaking, I would understand if he felt let down, especially when there was no aggressive follow-up on the part of SBP to seek justice for what happened. But there's no excuse for doing drugs - it's irresponsible and unprofessional. Gilas needs someone who is emotionally stable and has his mind focused on the job.

D_I_A
11-28-2009, 02:27 AM
Gilas won over SMB 109 - 96

i haven't seen magi sison, rj jazul, greg slaughter and their new soon to be naturalized -sampson play?

Schortsanitis
11-28-2009, 01:27 PM
I think Giles was 'nasulot'. Lebanon came up with a much higher offer, and then he wanted out of the Smart Gilas team to take the higher offer. But instead of asking to be out, he just started finding ways to turn off the team, until the team finally just said "go". And off he went to Lebanon, with his hefty contract. 'Na libre na.'

D_I_A
11-28-2009, 02:41 PM
I think Giles was 'nasulot'. Lebanon came up with a much higher offer, and then he wanted out of the Smart Gilas team to take the higher offer. But instead of asking to be out, he just started finding ways to turn off the team, until the team finally just said "go". And off he went to Lebanon, with his hefty contract. 'Na libre na.'


sana di ganun..

thadzonline
11-28-2009, 04:31 PM
I don't think so. He had issues way back in college having been kicked out of 2 schools

nardy
11-28-2009, 04:36 PM
Got word from Lebanon that they're having problems with CJ after he signed a lucrative contract with Riyadi, he said he could not play yet as he needs to rest and heal for awhile as he got injured when he was at the Philippines.

digitalsuperman
11-30-2009, 06:05 PM
http://sports.inquirer.net/breakingnews/breakingnews/view/20091130-239368/Altamirano-to-join-Smart-Gilas-coaching-staff

CEBU CITY, Philippines - A revamp in the coaching staff of the Smart Gilas Pilipinas National Team is in the offing.

Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas executive director Noli Eala confirmed Monday the impending facelift that could possibly bring in three more assistants to reinforce Gilas coach Rajko Toroman's tactical crew.

Eala said Nokia Under-16 Team Pilipinas coach Eric Altamirano would join assistant coach Allan Gregorio as Toroman's regular assistants but refused to name the other two pending the SBP's negotiations with them.

An Inquirer source, however, revealed that Letran coach Louie Alas was being eyed as Toroman's chief deputy at Gilas while former PBA coach Binky Favis would probably take over the scouting chores starting January.

“We need an experienced coach to help coach Rajko while bringing in coach E (Altamirano) will provide continuity to the youth program,'' said Eala.

The same source said Gilas assistants Jude Roque and Jalma Arnedo would be transferred to the scouting team under Favis.

Getting the services of Alas for Gilas, however, will be tricky. Besides a live contract with the Knights in the NCAA, Alas has also been calling the shots for the RP Patriots in the Asean Basketball League.

As for Favis, the former Coca-Coca mentor was replaced by Kenneth Duremdes at the helm several months back, making him available for the national team.

Eala said hiring Altamirano would allow for a progressive flow of tactical knowledge from Gilas down to the youth program.

“It will bridge the gap and address the problem of continuity from the youth to the men's team,'' said Eala.

Altamirano recently coached the Nokia U16 Team Pilipinas to a fourth-place finish in the 16-nation Fiba Asia U16 Men's Championship in Johor Bahru, Malaysia.

Had they beaten Iran in the quarterfinals, the Nationals could have faced Korea and possibly booked one of two tickets to the Fiba World U17 Men's Championship in Hamburg, Germany next year.

The Philippines lost to eventual champion China in the semifinals and again yielded to Iran in the battle for the bronze.

coreytaylor
11-30-2009, 06:26 PM
Bravo SBP! Bravo! Let this be the start of a very bright future of basketball in our country.

D_I_A
12-01-2009, 12:19 AM
technology transfer :

from toroman to Filipino coaches

korn666333
12-01-2009, 02:01 PM
future of rp basketball....

PinasBeliever
12-07-2009, 01:23 AM
guys sino sa inyo may jpeg file ng Smart Gilas logo?? wala kasi akong makita e... ty! :D

AnthonyServinio
01-06-2010, 01:03 AM
SBP-GMA 7 INK PARTNERSHIP FOR SMART GILAS MIDEAST TOUR

The Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (SBP) formally announced that it has entered into a media partnership agreement with television network giant GMA-7 for the series of games of the Smart Gilas Pilipinas National Team in the Middle East.

Smart Gilas is slated to leave tomorrow for Doha, Qatar as part of a 17-day tour of the Gulf as it begins preparations for the Asian Games this November in China. The young National Team led by Serbian Coach Rajko Toroman will play two games against the Qatar National Team on January 8 and 9 before participating in the tough 21st Dubai International Tournament from January 14 to 23. Prior to the tournament, Smart Gilas will play exhibition games for the Filipino communities in Dubai as well against a club team from Jordan and the UAE.

Toroman and his players, led by team captain Chris Tiu and UAAP most valuable player (MVP) Dylan Ababou, along with SBP officials Rico Meneses and Perry Martinez, paid a courtesy call to GMA Network, Inc. chairman, president and CEO Felipe L. Gozon and EVP and COO Gilberto R. Duavit prior to the team’s departure.

Under the partnership, GMA will cover Gilas’ Middle East activities and air a special on GMA’s PinoyTV. GMA has also agreed to provide subsidy for the Mideast trip of the National Team and is studying the possibility of even acquiring the tapes of the Dubai tournament for airing on its network.

"We fully support the national team, financially, morally and spiritually because we need to have athletes who will represent the country and win. And basketball is the national sport," said Gozon, who warmly welcomed the team that is tasked to bring the Philippines back into the Olympics by 2012.

For his part, Duavit said the coverage of Gilas intends to “create a lot of interest in terms of what the national team is doing" especially among OFWs in the places that they will be visiting.

SBP Executive Director Noli Eala lauded the partnership as a “milestone agreement that augurs well for the campaign to bring back national pride.”

“In behalf of our President Manny Pangilinan, we are very grateful for the support of a respected industry leader like GMA led by visionaries like Chairman Gozon and Mr. Duavit to the Smart Gilas National Team. The resources that GMA network are providing the team is a big boost in our aggressive campaign to prepare to qualify for the Olympics.” Eala said.

“The best part is because of this historic partnership, Smart Gilas will have more interaction with our Filipino communities in Qatar and the UAE. We need all the support and prayers of our countrymen in our quest to bring back pride and glory to the Philippines.” Eala added.

Smart Gilas and GMA have also agreed to study further the possibility of expanding the ties to include the future international trips of the team to Australia, US and Canada.The Dubai International tournament will feature teams from Syria, Iran, Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt and the UAE in what is billed as the “toughest international tournament in the Middle East.”

korn666333
01-07-2010, 11:50 AM
'Krypto-Nate' eligible for RP 5?

New York Knicks guard and two-time NBA slam dunk champion Nate Robinson is part-Filipino. That’s the word from basketball writer Rafe Bartholomew who said Robinson’s mother Renee Busch confirmed the Filipino heritage although the roots are rather scant.

Robinson, 25, is one-eighth Filipino. His maternal great grandfather was pure Filipino, making his grandfather half and his mother a fourth. Whether that portion will qualify Robinson to play for coach Rajko Toroman’s Smart Gilas team is a question mark.

Technically, Robinson could be considered a Fil-Am or more like an Am-Fil. If he is issued a Filipino passport on that basis as a dual citizen, then the 5-9 human dynamo from Seattle qualifies to play for Gilas – not as a naturalized import but as a Filipino like Fil-Ams Marcio Lassiter and Chris Lutz.

Of course, Robinson has to agree to apply for a Filipino passport and play for Gilas.

Bartholomew, whose story on the Ateneo-La Salle basketball rivalry made it to the pages of the New York Times, said he recently wrote a profile on Robinson. He interviewed Robinson’s mother for his piece. “Pinoy daw ang lolo niya,” texted Bartholomew, an American, in Filipino from his US cellphone.

The_Big_Cat
01-07-2010, 12:31 PM
'Krypto-Nate' eligible for RP 5?

New York Knicks guard and two-time NBA slam dunk champion Nate Robinson is part-Filipino. That’s the word from basketball writer Rafe Bartholomew who said Robinson’s mother Renee Busch confirmed the Filipino heritage although the roots are rather scant.

Robinson, 25, is one-eighth Filipino. His maternal great grandfather was pure Filipino, making his grandfather half and his mother a fourth. Whether that portion will qualify Robinson to play for coach Rajko Toroman’s Smart Gilas team is a question mark.

Technically, Robinson could be considered a Fil-Am or more like an Am-Fil. If he is issued a Filipino passport on that basis as a dual citizen, then the 5-9 human dynamo from Seattle qualifies to play for Gilas – not as a naturalized import but as a Filipino like Fil-Ams Marcio Lassiter and Chris Lutz.

Of course, Robinson has to agree to apply for a Filipino passport and play for Gilas.

Bartholomew, whose story on the Ateneo-La Salle basketball rivalry made it to the pages of the New York Times, said he recently wrote a profile on Robinson. He interviewed Robinson’s mother for his piece. “Pinoy daw ang lolo niya,” texted Bartholomew, an American, in Filipino from his US cellphone.


Now that explains the height. ;D

LION
01-07-2010, 02:11 PM
'Krypto-Nate' eligible for RP 5?

New York Knicks guard and two-time NBA slam dunk champion Nate Robinson is part-Filipino. That’s the word from basketball writer Rafe Bartholomew who said Robinson’s mother Renee Busch confirmed the Filipino heritage although the roots are rather scant.

Robinson, 25, is one-eighth Filipino. His maternal great grandfather was pure Filipino, making his grandfather half and his mother a fourth. Whether that portion will qualify Robinson to play for coach Rajko Toroman’s Smart Gilas team is a question mark.

Technically, Robinson could be considered a Fil-Am or more like an Am-Fil. If he is issued a Filipino passport on that basis as a dual citizen, then the 5-9 human dynamo from Seattle qualifies to play for Gilas – not as a naturalized import but as a Filipino like Fil-Ams Marcio Lassiter and Chris Lutz.

Of course, Robinson has to agree to apply for a Filipino passport and play for Gilas.

Bartholomew, whose story on the Ateneo-La Salle basketball rivalry made it to the pages of the New York Times, said he recently wrote a profile on Robinson. He interviewed Robinson’s mother for his piece. “Pinoy daw ang lolo niya,” texted Bartholomew, an American, in Filipino from his US cellphone.


Now that explains the height. ;D


And the attitude. ;D

mighty_lion
01-07-2010, 03:31 PM
Kaya pala hindi katangkaran. ;D

nardy
01-09-2010, 01:18 AM
PHILIPPINES beats QATAR 46-38.

FIRST TIME the Qatar National Team was beaten on home soil.

Ababou 11 points/Lassiter 8 points/Barocca 7 points

Jamal Sampson had 19 rebounds and 3 block shots.

fujitsu
01-09-2010, 07:15 AM
PHILIPPINES beats QATAR 46-38.

FIRST TIME the Qatar National Team was beaten on home soil.

Ababou 11 points/Lassiter 8 points/Barocca 7 points

Jamal Sampson had 19 rebounds and 3 block shots.


wow.... sana tuloy tuloy naaa

Schortsanitis
01-09-2010, 12:27 PM
'Langya yung score.' Both teams failed to breach the 50 point mark.

nash_bedista
01-09-2010, 12:44 PM
parang nung intrams lang yung score ;D

coreytaylor
01-09-2010, 12:55 PM
PHILIPPINES beats QATAR 46-38.

FIRST TIME the Qatar National Team was beaten on home soil.

Ababou 11 points/Lassiter 8 points/Barocca 7 points

Jamal Sampson had 19 rebounds and 3 block shots.


Can someone please post the complete boxscores or maybe share a link.

stonecold316
01-10-2010, 05:31 PM
Mukhang matindi ang depensa ng dalawang teams.
Anyway, congrats to the RP men's team.
Sana tuloy tuloy ang panalo.
Make us all proud!

pio_valenz
01-10-2010, 07:19 PM
From assistant coach Jude Roque's Facebook status:

Qatar got back at RP Team in overtime, 77-68, as the game officials made sure the hosts would not lose a second straight time at home. The game was tight all throughout even as the Qataris were awarded a lot more free throws and escaped with several non-calls. But the Filipino fans that filled the Al Gharrafa Gym were happy with what they saw. Next stop for Smart Gilas - Dubai.

shootpapa
01-11-2010, 03:06 AM
Philippine team is playing in Qatar as if its their home court. ;D

Madaming pangit na tawag ang ref, but still the Philippines manage to play well...

Audience - 98.5% Filipinos - 1.5% Qataris and others. hehehe

Qatar Team - 1 Full Blooded Qatari (Injured pa) others former Africans.

Good game for the Philippine Team, As far as I remember Philippine Team never won to Qatar for almost 4 years (ganun na ako katagal dito eh) Former Victims:
RP Team - Chot Reyes
San Miguel Beer
Sta Lucia Realtors
Purefoods
La Salle

D_I_A
01-17-2010, 12:40 AM
Smart Gilas trips Lebanon five
By Joey Villar (The Philippine Star) Updated January 17, 2010 12:00 AM

DUBAI – Smart Gilas Pilipinas, drawing strength from the return of Jamal Sampson and the sterling efforts of guards Chris Tiu and JV Casio, subdued the Fadi El Khatib-led Champville of Lebanon, 77-71, in the Dubai Invitational at the Al Ahli Club here Saturday.

Once again cheered on by throngs of overseas Filipino workers here, the Nationals overcame El Khatib’s 40-point explosion as they bounced back from a loss to Al Jalaa of Syria Friday.

Sampson returned to action after sitting out the Syria game due to a sore knee, coming through with 13 rebounds, 11 points and two blocks as he gave the Filipinos a big boost against the Lebanese.

The 6-foot-11 NBA veteran imposed his strength at the paint, thus, opening up space for the Smart Gilas outside gunners.

Chris Tiu, the former Ateneo hotshot who’s now a popular television personality, scored a team-high 17 points, including a triple that shattered the 63-all count.


After taking the 66-63 lead, the Filipinos never looked back en route to the crucial win that brought the team back in strong contention for the knockout games.

The Filipinos automatically make the quarterfinals if they beat Zain of Jordan in their 5 p.m. (9 p.m. Manila time) showdown Sunday.

Jordan is playing here with its national team reinforced by three imports including PBA veteran Damien Cantrell.

Casio, who erupted for 23 points against the Syrians, knocked in 14 points this time with 10 coming from the foul line.

“Jamal was a big help today, providing us his inside game. If he plays until the end of the tournament, I’m optimistic of our chances because we’ll play at the level of what we can really do,” said Smart Gilas coach Rajko Toroman.

Smart Gilas bucked El Khatib’s 40-point output, including nine in their decisive third-quarter romp.

“I told the boys it’s okay for El Khatib to score much for as long as the other Lebanese don’t. We didn’t make a special tactic. We just took the other Lebanese players out of the game. That was the key,” said Toroman.

Champville mentor Ghassan Sarkiss was impressed of Smart Gilas.

“They played very well, very organized. They have good outside shooters and they know how to play the game,” said Sarkiss.

“They outplayed us. They deserved to win because they had a better approach on the game and they played with a lot of heart,” Sarkiss added.

Notes:

Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas executive director Noli Eala, arriving here Friday afternoon, helped a lot in convincing Jamal Sampson to play against the Lebanese despite a hurting left knee ...Rico Mondejar, formerly a radio disc jockey back home, is the English-speaking game barker here. He provides the music familiar to Filipinos - the Papaya Song and the Black-eyed Peas’ Bebot.

The scores:

Smart Gilas 77 – Tiu 19, Casio 14, Baracael 11, Sampson 11, Aguilar 10, Lassiter 5, Barroca 4, Ballesteros 3, Ababou 0, Cawaling 0.

Champville 71– El Khatib 40, Rida 10, Danielson 7, Thompson 4, Sakris 3, Martinez 3, Hawi 2, Cox 2.

Quarterscores: 18-25; 38-34; 54-58; 77-71

richchard28
01-19-2010, 01:33 PM
congrats and gudluck to the quarterfinals! ;)

easter
01-21-2010, 10:52 AM
Smart Gilas beats Egypt. The team moves on to the semis!

Jeep
01-21-2010, 09:27 PM
the previous page has a post that said that GMA-7 and SBP inked an agreement to broadcast the mid-east games. anyone know exactly the dates and times of the broadcasts? and what channel (7 or QTV)?

Schortsanitis
01-23-2010, 12:09 AM
It seems Jason Ballesteros has bulked up a lot with Smart Gilas. He looks beefier in the chest area than he was before. He also has been getting major minutes under Toroman, doing well defensively (individual defense and rebounds), and contributing some points as well.

datu_pula
01-23-2010, 02:27 PM
the previous page has a post that said that GMA-7 and SBP inked an agreement to broadcast the mid-east games. anyone know exactly the dates and times of the broadcasts? and what channel (7 or QTV)?


You can watch the game against Lebanon's Al-Riyadi at <http://teampilipinas.info/2010/01/smart-gilas-pilipinas-vs-al-riyadi-of.html>. This appeared to be shot from the bleachers.

Jeep
01-23-2010, 03:15 PM
the previous page has a post that said that GMA-7 and SBP inked an agreement to broadcast the mid-east games. anyone know exactly the dates and times of the broadcasts? and what channel (7 or QTV)?


You can watch the game against Lebanon's Al-Riyadi at <http://teampilipinas.info/2010/01/smart-gilas-pilipinas-vs-al-riyadi-of.html>. This appeared to be shot from the bleachers.


thanks for the link, datu pula. i will check it out.

but i would also like to watch the games on TV. i mean, there's nothing like your own set at home if you're not watching live. and since a group apparently has promised to deliver the games into our living rooms, i'm hoping they live up to that. :)

datu_pula
01-23-2010, 09:18 PM
the previous page has a post that said that GMA-7 and SBP inked an agreement to broadcast the mid-east games. anyone know exactly the dates and times of the broadcasts? and what channel (7 or QTV)?


You can watch the game against Lebanon's Al-Riyadi at <http://teampilipinas.info/2010/01/smart-gilas-pilipinas-vs-al-riyadi-of.html>. This appeared to be shot from the bleachers.


thanks for the link, datu pula. i will check it out.

but i would also like to watch the games on TV. i mean, there's nothing like your own set at home if you're not watching live. and since a group apparently has promised to deliver the games into our living rooms, i'm hoping they live up to that. :)


Live streaming of game vs. Syria for 3rd at <http://www.ustream.tv/channel/smart-gilas>. Streaming off and on. Syria leading by 8 at the half, 48-40.

datu_pula
01-23-2010, 09:55 PM
the previous page has a post that said that GMA-7 and SBP inked an agreement to broadcast the mid-east games. anyone know exactly the dates and times of the broadcasts? and what channel (7 or QTV)?


You can watch the game against Lebanon's Al-Riyadi at <http://teampilipinas.info/2010/01/smart-gilas-pilipinas-vs-al-riyadi-of.html>. This appeared to be shot from the bleachers.


thanks for the link, datu pula. i will check it out.

but i would also like to watch the games on TV. i mean, there's nothing like your own set at home if you're not watching live. and since a group apparently has promised to deliver the games into our living rooms, i'm hoping they live up to that. :)


Live streaming of game vs. Syria for 3rd at <http://www.ustream.tv/channel/smart-gilas>. Streaming off and on. Syria leading by 8 at the half, 48-40.


Syria leading by 3, end of 3rd. 70-67

datu_pula
01-23-2010, 10:26 PM
the previous page has a post that said that GMA-7 and SBP inked an agreement to broadcast the mid-east games. anyone know exactly the dates and times of the broadcasts? and what channel (7 or QTV)?


You can watch the game against Lebanon's Al-Riyadi at <http://teampilipinas.info/2010/01/smart-gilas-pilipinas-vs-al-riyadi-of.html>. This appeared to be shot from the bleachers.


thanks for the link, datu pula. i will check it out.

but i would also like to watch the games on TV. i mean, there's nothing like your own set at home if you're not watching live. and since a group apparently has promised to deliver the games into our living rooms, i'm hoping they live up to that. :)


Live streaming of game vs. Syria for 3rd at <http://www.ustream.tv/channel/smart-gilas>. Streaming off and on. Syria leading by 8 at the half, 48-40.


Syria leading by 3, end of 3rd. 70-67


Smart Gilas by 9, 107-98, without an import. 3rd place

Schortsanitis
01-24-2010, 01:44 PM
Mac Baracael is doing very well with Smart Gilas. Strong and athletic, he uses his quickness and strength inside the paint to get rebounds. Gets most of his shots from fastbreak plays, or outside shots, though. Very rarely penetrates, or posts up. The latter is understandable, since he's way shorter than his opponents there in the Middle East.

The_Big_Cat
01-24-2010, 02:51 PM
the previous page has a post that said that GMA-7 and SBP inked an agreement to broadcast the mid-east games. anyone know exactly the dates and times of the broadcasts? and what channel (7 or QTV)?


Up ko lang.

Can someone post the delayed telecast schedule of the games? Channel? Thanks.

rabbaddal
01-25-2010, 03:41 AM
Watched the videoclips. My impressions:

- They are excellent in offense, even better than a PBA selection with Miller and James Yap. Very good and CONSISTENT outside shooting, passing, picking and cutting. It looked like they were shooting the lights out in every game.

- Defense, especially in the wings, is weak. Not good in stopping penetrations, cuts and transitions. This is a bit disconcerting but partly due to the fact that they had no dominating big man as a final line of defense, unlike Ateneo in the UAAP.

I hope that if Jamal has to be let go, they do a more careful job in finding a replacement.

freak
01-25-2010, 01:43 PM
Smart Gilas salvages 3rd in Dubai tilt

By June Navarro
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 01:16:00 01/25/2010


DUBAI—For a change, the national dribblers will go home with medals hanging around their necks.

Banking again on an all-Filipino crew, the Smart Gilas Pilipinas national five buried 18 straight free throws to hold off Al Jalaa of Syria, 107-98, in the bronze-medal game of the 21st Dubai International basketball tournament Sunday night at the Al Ahli Club here.

Mark Barroca fired 18 of his 21 points in the fourth quarter while Marnel Baracael, Marcio Lassiter and Chris Tiu provided clutch support as Smart Gilas wriggled free from a see-saw battle and scored 40 points in the final period.

Three free throws by Barroca and two by Baracael gave Gilas a 91-83 advantage with three minutes left, forcing the Syrians to go on a fouling spree in a bid to stop the clock.

All told, the Filipinos converted 33 of 40 free throws with Tiu making all 12 of his charities.

“We’re down after the loss (to Al Riyadi of Lebanon in the semifinals) but we recovered and showed mental toughness,” said RP coach Rajko Toroman.

In the championship match, Iran’s Mahram denied Al Riyadi a second straight crown with an 85-67 triumph built on the heroics of tournament MVP Samad Nikkah Bahrami.

JVee Casio, who impressed the organizers with his consistency, was named best guard while Al Riyadi’s CJ Giles, the first prospect for naturalization of Smart Gilas, was best center.

“Our performance earned the team respect from other Asian teams,” said Toroman after the Filipinos avenged their only loss in a 3-1 card at the end of the elimination round.

Smart Gilas trailed by 12 points at 35-23 before finally seizing the initiative in the fourth quarter despite Toroman’s benching of 6-foot-11 American reinforcement Jamal Sampson, who missed Smart Gilas’ loss to Al Jalaa, 90-76, in the eliminations due to what he claimed was a swollen knee.

The scores:

SMART GILAS 107—Baracael 26, Barroca 21, Tiu 12, Aguilar 10, Casio 10, Lassiter 9, Cawaling 9, Balesteros 4, Slaughter 4, Ababou 0.

AL JALAA 98—Maadanli 23, Correa 18, Shaw 16, Hamilton 10, Gorges 9, Al Sharif 8, Thompson 7, Meraneh 5, Papazian 2.

Quarters: 18-26, 40-48, 67-70, 107-98

bops
04-28-2010, 11:48 PM
Click on Full Episode Tue 04/27

http://www.tmz.com/tmz-tv/

They 'love' Filipinos today for some reason.

Schortsanitis
04-29-2010, 09:53 PM
^^^
I thought the TMZ treatment of the RP team was a bit derogatory, though one guy was making fun of our heights, and another was defending us, the overall effect was more of a derogatory one.

maroonmartian
04-30-2010, 01:08 PM
^ Damn those Americans >:( Hope Lebron and Kobe didn't play in that team so that they would lose to an Argentine or Spanish team in the FIBA World Championships this year!! Ang yabang!!

coachjake
05-15-2010, 10:19 AM
^Ibig sabihin ba nito, ina-naturalize na si Mbe? O, nagta-tryout pa siya sa pagiging Pinoy? ;)


It's sick that we need to "naturalize" and "import" players for our national team ..... why not develop our own? pati coach import pa, really nauseating..... pati college level ganun na rin ...... sp much money spent on the pipe dream of making it to the Olympics... get real guys....pang SEA Games and Asian Games na lang siguro tayo

coachjake
05-15-2010, 10:20 AM
^^^
I thought the TMZ treatment of the RP team was a bit derogatory, though one guy was making fun of our heights, and another was defending us, the overall effect was more of a derogatory one.


well said....I saw that TMZ episode....the derogatory remark was done by that jew host of that show, levin....it was the honky guy who said the Phils. had pretty big players too

oca
05-15-2010, 10:59 AM
^Ibig sabihin ba nito, ina-naturalize na si Mbe? O, nagta-tryout pa siya sa pagiging Pinoy? ;)


It's sick that we need to "naturalize" and "import" players for our national team ..... why not develop our own? pati coach import pa, really nauseating..... pati college level ganun na rin ...... sp much money spent on the pipe dream of making it to the Olympics... get real guys....pang SEA Games and Asian Games na lang siguro tayo


"Humaling".

Ever heard of the word? That's what we are with this game. Nahuhumaling tayo, at matagal na. Unawin mo ang salitang iyan, mauunawaan mo ang mga kaganapan.

On the individual level, ilan sa atin ang may sapat na katangkaran para maglaro ng basketball? Isn't it illogical that a nation populated by people with a height average of 5'8" or less will even like this game?

Imo, our individual reasons for being into this game is behind the logic of what is happening to our national team.

Bakit ka narito?

maroonmartian
05-18-2010, 07:15 AM
From the Inquire.net

http://sports.inquirer.net/amateur/amateur/view/20100513-269682/More-at-stake-for-Smart-Gilas-import
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More at stake for Smart Gilas import
By June Navarro
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 06:14:00 05/13/2010


MANILA, Philippines—Milan Vucicevic has a chance to be a mainstay of the Smart Gilas Pilipinas national team depending on his performance in the coming FIBA Asia Champions Cup.

Smart Gilas coach Rajko Toroman said the import-laden tournament in Doha, Qatar, on May 22 to 30 will test the 6-foot-10 Serbian’s worth as a possible RP team candidate for naturalization.

The Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas has given Toroman, who also sits as project director of the RP five, a free hand to pick a naturalization prospect to boost the frontline rotation of Gilas.

Vucicevic arrived last week to serve as Gilas reinforcement in the Asian club championship where teams are allowed to field two imports each.

“He (Vucicevic) has to learn the system first,” said Toroman, who led Iran to the 2007 Fiba Asia Championship and an unprecedented stint in the Beijing Olympics two years ago.

“We will know if he’s the one as we go through the Champions Cup,” he added.

Smart Gilas team manager Frankie Lim said the team has become more discriminating after the brief stints of CJ Giles and Jamal Sampson as candidates for naturalization.

The 6-foot-11 Giles was dropped due to attitude issues while Sampson, a NBA journeyman, was released due to a series of injuries.

“We don’t want to commit the same mistakes thrice,” said Lim. “We are now doubly careful in choosing our import.”
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Magkababayan pala ang si Coach Rajko at si Vucicevic. Sana wala na attitude problem. ;D

And Kelly Williams will probably suit up in the 2010 Guangzhou Asian Games but not in the 2010 FIBA Champions Cup.

coreytaylor
05-18-2010, 04:57 PM
Kelly Williams can’t suit up for Champions Cup squad
By June Navarro, Philippine Daily Inquirer
http://sports.inquirer.net/amateur/amateur/view/20100518-270599/Kelly-Williams-cant-suit-up-for-Champions-Cup-squad

MANILA, Philippines—Minus a PBA clearance, Kelly Williams won’t be able to suit up for Smart Gilas in the FIBA Asia Champions Cup.

Smart Gilas assistant coach Allan Gregorio Monday announced that the versatile 6-foot-7 slasher is certain to miss the Doha, Qatar, tournament on May 22 to 30, adding that the earliest Williams could join the national team is in the Guangzhou Asian Games in November.

Talk ‘N Text, which acquired Williams from Sta. Lucia Realty in a nine-player trade that also involved Barako Coffee, still has to get the PBA board’s permission to loan the 2008 PBA MVP to Smart Gilas.

“I think Kelly will finish the (PBA Fiesta) conference before playing for the national team,” said Gregorio. “We’re hoping to have him in the Asian Games.”

Talk ‘N Text is owned by telecommunications magnate Manny V. Pangilinan, who is also the president of the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas, the national sport association for basketball which handles Smart Gilas.

PBA rules limits a player to seeing action with his mother club and for a national team formed by the pro league.

Gilas is leaving for Doha on Thursday, hoping to surpass its fifth-place finish in the Champions Cup held in Jakarta last year.

The RP five is bracketed in Group A with defending champion Iran, Kazakhstan, Iraq and host Qatar. Group B is composed of Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates.

While its rivals will be fielding two imports each, Gilas only has 6-foot-10 Serbian Milan Vucicevic as reinforcement.

chinito_guy
05-18-2010, 11:38 PM
GO GILAS!!!

maroonmartian
05-19-2010, 08:38 AM
The RP five is bracketed in Group A with defending champion Iran, Kazakhstan, Iraq and host Qatar. Group B is composed of Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates.



Maku medyo malakas kabracket natin. Iraq lang easy win. Pero kaya yan!!

abcdef
05-19-2010, 09:08 AM
May sched na po ba pati yung live streaming? hehehe! GO GILAS!

kerouac82
05-19-2010, 10:06 PM
^Ibig sabihin ba nito, ina-naturalize na si Mbe? O, nagta-tryout pa siya sa pagiging Pinoy? ;)


It's sick that we need to "naturalize" and "import" players for our national team ..... why not develop our own? pati coach import pa, really nauseating..... pati college level ganun na rin ...... sp much money spent on the pipe dream of making it to the Olympics... get real guys....pang SEA Games and Asian Games na lang siguro tayo


Wow. Coach ka ba talaga? Magresign ka na lang.

Schortsanitis
05-20-2010, 12:22 AM
It's sick that we need to "naturalize" and "import" players for our national team ..... why not develop our own? pati coach import pa, really nauseating..... pati college level ganun na rin ...... sp much money spent on the pipe dream of making it to the Olympics... get real guys....pang SEA Games and Asian Games na lang siguro tayo


The truth of the matter, painful as it maybe, is that in order for our national team to be truly competitive at the HIGHEST level of Asian Basketball (take note: Asian pa lang iyan) ... we will need some help.

I'm not dissing the National team here. I'm just saying it as it is. Besides, as far as I am concerned, my philosophy has now been: The Philippines doesn't necessarily have to win the Asian Games for me to patronize it.

Regardless of what happens in the Asian Games, I am still going to watch the PBA, or the PBL, or the UAAP, or the NCAA whenever I can.

Bennie Bangag
05-20-2010, 10:29 AM
kung ang US ilang beses na ring kumuha ng naturalized player para maglaro sa olympics, tayo pa kaya? rolando blackman was panamanian, patrick ewing was jamaican, hakeem and emeka okafor were nigerian, tim duncan was from the US virgin islands, rony seikaly was lebanese... you get my drift.

maroonmartian
05-20-2010, 11:12 AM
For a better example, I'll cite the Asian teams.

Qatar, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan have imports/naturalized players while Iran and China have foreign coaches.

joelex
05-20-2010, 12:06 PM
It's sick that we need to "naturalize" and "import" players for our national team ..... why not develop our own? pati coach import pa, really nauseating..... pati college level ganun na rin ...... sp much money spent on the pipe dream of making it to the Olympics... get real guys....pang SEA Games and Asian Games na lang siguro tayo


The truth of the matter, painful as it maybe, is that in order for our national team to be truly competitive at the HIGHEST level of Asian Basketball (take note: Asian pa lang iyan) ... we will need some help.

I'm not dissing the National team here. I'm just saying it as it is. Besides, as far as I am concerned, my philosophy has now been: The Philippines doesn't necessarily have to win the Asian Games for me to patronize it.

Regardless of what happens in the Asian Games, I am still going to watch the PBA, or the PBL, or the UAAP, or the NCAA whenever I can.







agree, 100%

augustine
05-24-2010, 12:40 AM
Lost big to qataris in first game

Schortsanitis
05-24-2010, 12:54 AM
Just saw the RP team get bamboozled by Qatar to the tune of 28 points, 86-58. Its games like these that show our weakness as a country when it comes to the sport of Basketball: We're just a little bit too short.

The Qataris not only had the height, they also have the athleticism to just beat us to dust when they want to in a SERIOUS tournament.

I mean, this Smart Gilas team has all the ingredients for success:
- One of the best Asian Coaches in Toroman;
- The best, young amateur players that could be molded into a strong, cohesive team;
- The best financial support since Danding Cojuangco's NCC team, with the team going thru trainings and major tournaments abroad;
- An import, though in this case not so good in Milan Jula-whateveritis.

And yet, that was not enough.

I have the feeling that once Toroman's contract is over, he will move on to a country who has the tools to excel in basketball at an international level. We have the passion, we have the skill, but we don't have the height to really make a difference in crucial games, when all things are equal.

I also feel that MVP's goals for this team should be more modest; Instead of challenging the stronger Asian teams out there, I feel that we should instead look at the word DEVELOPMENT more.

"Development", in terms of improving the skills of the amateur players, and also of DISCOVERING good Fil-Ams to play for the country and for the PBA.

With all these trainings and exposures, even if the team will have limited success internationally, it would have meant better players for the PBA and the country in the likes of Barroca, Tiu, Slaughter, Lutz, etc.

Even if this team doesn't reach its goals, I still feel it would've been worth it just by the development and discovery of players that will eventually strut their stuff in the local and international tournaments.

m_14
05-24-2010, 11:04 PM
[quote=Schortsanitis ]
Just saw the RP team get bamboozled by Qatar to the tune of 28 points, 86-58. Its games like these that show our weakness as a country when it comes to the sport of Basketball: We're just a little bit too short.

The Qataris not only had the height, they also have the athleticism to just beat us to dust when they want to in a SERIOUS tournament.

I mean, this Smart Gilas team has all the ingredients for success:
- One of the best Asian Coaches in Toroman;
- The best, young amateur players that could be molded into a strong, cohesive team;
- The best financial support since Danding Cojuangco's NCC team, with the team going thru trainings and major tournaments abroad;
- An import, though in this case not so good in Milan Jula-whateveritis.

And yet, that was not enough.

I have the feeling that once Toroman's contract is over, he will move on to a country who has the tools to excel in basketball at an international level. We have the passion, we have the skill, but we don't have the height to really make a difference in crucial games, when all things are equal.

I also feel that MVP's goals for this team should be more modest; Instead of challenging the stronger Asian teams out there, I feel that we should instead look at the word DEVELOPMENT more.

"Development", in terms of improving the skills of the amateur players, and also of DISCOVERING good Fil-Ams to play for the country and for the PBA.

With all these trainings and exposures, even if the team will have limited success internationally, it would have meant better players for the PBA and the country in the likes of Barroca, Tiu, Slaughter, Lutz, etc.

Even if this team doesn't reach its goals, I still feel it would've been worth it just by the development and discovery of players that will eventually strut their stuff in the local and international tournaments.




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very well said..

maroonmartian
05-25-2010, 12:21 AM
Lost big to qataris in first game


:o 28 big points. They have to resolve a lot of issues here. But I hope the experiment will be continued in the long run. Di bale tune-up pa naman to for the Asian Games.

augustine
05-25-2010, 03:16 AM
Lost in OT to Cossacks.

oca
05-29-2010, 07:20 AM
We had a head start in this game. At one time we had a glorious 3rd place finish in the World Championship and was the undisputed power in Asia. But the world has learned how to play it. They may not be as good as us,but they have enough smarts to make use of their height. That is enough to beat us.

D_I_A
05-29-2010, 12:31 PM
We had a head start in this game. At one time we had a glorious 3rd place finish in the World Championship and was the undisputed power in Asia. But the world has learned how to play it. They may not be as good as us,but they have enough smarts to make use of their height. That is enough to beat us.



let's not lose hope for our National team!

Sulong Basketball ng Pilipinas!!!

Schortsanitis
05-29-2010, 12:33 PM
We had a head start in this game. At one time we had a glorious 3rd place finish in the World Championship and was the undisputed power in Asia. But the world has learned how to play it. They may not be as good as us,but they have enough smarts to make use of their height. That is enough to beat us.


True, true.

We just need to learn to appreciate basketball for what it is, regardless of where we stand in the world rankings, or how we fare in international competitions.

Let me share this anecdote: When I was young, I had this uncle who was HUGE PBA fan. He always watched the games, and knew all the players from Fernandez, Jaworski, Florencio, etc. all the way from their heydays in the early 70s.

So one time, I told him excitedly about our prospects for the National team. This was the time when young, athletic players like Patrimonio, Paras, Asaytono, etc. were starting to come out. And I was shocked by his answer. He said, "A, wala yan. Kulelat na naman ang mga iyan."

I was stunned by his answer. I thought, how could he say such a thing? I thought he was a big basketball fan? He even added, "Mabuti nga di na naglalaro ang Israel sa Asya, kundi lalo tayong bugbog".

As the years passed, I realized he was right, and that he was proven right. It turns out he knew more about basketball than I thought he did. And of course, I am now doing exactly what he is doing: Learning to appreciate the game, despite acknowledging our limitations in it as far as the rest of the world is concerned.

RockLobster
05-29-2010, 11:57 PM
Just saw TJ Manotoc's tweet--so sorry to be the bearer of bad news. Lost to Syria via a wild finish: fastbreak, catch-and-shoot three-pointer for the win. He caught the live stream of the game apparently. Didn't mention which site though. Sakit 'nun. :'(

oca
05-30-2010, 03:51 AM
We had a head start in this game. At one time we had a glorious 3rd place finish in the World Championship and was the undisputed power in Asia. But the world has learned how to play it. They may not be as good as us,but they have enough smarts to make use of their height. That is enough to beat us.



let's not lose hope for our National team!

Sulong Basketball ng Pilipinas!!!


There is nothing into it but a statement of fact.

But regardless who coaches our team, who are the players, for as long as they have our Colors on their uniform, nandun ang suporta at pananalig na mananalo.

oca
05-30-2010, 04:05 AM
We had a head start in this game. At one time we had a glorious 3rd place finish in the World Championship and was the undisputed power in Asia. But the world has learned how to play it. They may not be as good as us,but they have enough smarts to make use of their height. That is enough to beat us.


True, true.

We just need to learn to appreciate basketball for what it is, regardless of where we stand in the world rankings, or how we fare in international competitions.

Let me share this anecdote: When I was young, I had this uncle who was HUGE PBA fan. He always watched the games, and knew all the players from Fernandez, Jaworski, Florencio, etc. all the way from their heydays in the early 70s.

So one time, I told him excitedly about our prospects for the National team. This was the time when young, athletic players like Patrimonio, Paras, Asaytono, etc. were starting to come out. And I was shocked by his answer. He said, "A, wala yan. Kulelat na naman ang mga iyan."

I was stunned by his answer. I thought, how could he say such a thing? I thought he was a big basketball fan? He even added, "Mabuti nga di na naglalaro ang Israel sa Asya, kundi lalo tayong bugbog".

As the years passed, I realized he was right, and that he was proven right. It turns out he knew more about basketball than I thought he did. And of course, I am now doing exactly what he is doing: Learning to appreciate the game, despite acknowledging our limitations in it as far as the rest of the world is concerned.


Until recently, I strongly believed that if we can have 2 good big men to alternate at center, we can easily regain dominance in Asia and have a legit chance of advancing beyond the group stages at the Worlds and Olympics.

But the more I see these Middle East teams play, the more I am convinced that regaining dominant stature in Asia will not happen in this generation.

Compounding our lack of ceiling is the fact we have made the game complicated for our own good. Too many diagrams on the board, yet look at our opponents, they move the ball the way I recall we do it before we aped the NBA type of game. We are getting a beating with a style we have discarded.

Can we undo this aping we have been doing?

If we can, then maybe we can start winning in Asia again.

Btw, I still appreciate the game for what it is, bakit nga ba ako nandito...

augustine
05-30-2010, 07:18 AM
To have a real chance at winning in asia, we need three things. 1) our best players available (which means PBA players), 2) best international coach available, 3) sufficient preparation to prepare the team for the kind of play needed to win internationally. We have two out of the three. If we want to give ourselves a real chance we will have to sacrifice the entertainment value of having Kelly Williams in Talk n Text, at least for six months of the year - plus all the others chosen to don the national colors with him. Then we can make maximum use of the naturalization rules of fiba, and naturalize three or four young big men to form a pool for our NT. These guys would then have access to play in the PBA as locals.

Anything less is satisficing. Second best. And so will we be in the Asian cage wars.

oca
05-30-2010, 08:48 AM
Let's forget about the PBA having any direct and significant involvement in our NT. This has been discussed time and again and what's evident is this--- the league's interest is not served by committing their best players to the NT.

maomao
06-05-2010, 12:06 AM
To be able to be very very competitive in international competition we need to improve our outside shooting. Given that we probably are not going to get any taller any time soon, then develop these players to be knock down shooters. From positions 1-5, everybody can shoot everywhere on the floor. That is the best chance we have to be competitive.

Schortsanitis
06-05-2010, 02:51 PM
^^^
Easier said than done. An outside shot (by my definition would be a shot taken 10 feet from the basket) is naturally a lower percentage shot, and I personally have not seen a local team win TOURNAMENTS (not games, but tournaments) relying on outside shot alone.

Legend has it the South Koreans were able to do that before, but until I see hard stats to support that, I would say its more of perception than anything else.

We have many long time basketball experts and observers in this forum, I'd be interested on their views about this matter.

reamily
06-05-2010, 11:58 PM
hehe Koreans do not do it on outside shooting alone its a sissy act and cannot win games rember the canada korea game. I think Korea has enough smart and skilled big men in 1997 thats why they stole one from the chinese in abc. But years later this strategy is matched up by heftiness and enough skills of the arabs and athleticism of our fil ams ;D evident in a 13 point loss of rp even in a worst shooting night.

maomao
06-10-2010, 08:43 AM
Shooters are not born. They are made. If every player on our team can put in time and effort to really improve this part of their game then it could really help our chances going forward. European teams have very good outside shooting that even extends to the center position. If you compare our heights to other international teams we just probably have a lineup full of Guards up to Small Forwards and these positions basically are perimeter oriented. If every player can hit a shot from about 15-20 feet our dibble drive will be more available and our height disadvantage can be neutralized.

Schortsanitis
06-10-2010, 10:45 AM
European teams have good outside shot, but they don't live and die by the outside shot. They also have capable big men who can hit that shot much nearer to the basket. In fact, I think if you look at the shot charts of a couple of typical European games, you'll see that they do vary their shots, and don't just take it from perimeter.

gienecees
06-14-2010, 02:51 PM
check out the new NIKE National Uniforms, palagay ko ito narin ang design pati ng RP national team.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Have-a-look-at-the-new-Team-USA-basketball-unifo?urn=nba,247857

Have a look at the new Team USA basketball uniforms

By Trey Kerby

When the United States men's national basketball team heads to Turkey for the FIBA World Championships this summer, they're going to look pretty cool. It's hard to mess up red, white and blue, and the various manufacturers who have supplied their uniforms throughout the years haven't made very many missteps. But this year, they're also going to feel cool thanks to a couple tweaks by Nike.

Through some kind of clothing wizardry, Nike has eliminated more than 13 inches of fabric from a typical basketball jersey, and probably double that when compared to Allan Houston's(notes) tarp-like mid-90s shirt. The back of the jersey will once again feature "Aerographics," which you probably know as those intricately-designed perforations that make it look like everyone has a super sweaty back like Patrick Ewing. And yes, that's two zings on the New York Knicks, who have been the antithesis of on-court aesthetics for two decades running. Make that three.

Aside from the extra tailoring, the jerseys are about the same. The shorts are the big story, as far as international basketball clothing news goes. Thanks to Nike's new Hyperelite design, the shorts are about half as light as a normal basketball short when dry. Get them wet — like, you know, from sweating during a game — and they're even better, weighing less when soaked (10.1 oz.) than a normal pair does when dry (13.6). I got a chance to play in a pair on Thursday, and if you imagine a paper-thin pair of swim trunks with a bunch of pencil eraser-sized holes on the sides, you get the idea, and you understand how they're so light. Mine were also enormous, falling a solid three inches below my kneecap. Yi Jianlian(notes) and Kevin Durant(notes) didn't seem to have that problem, possibly because they're a half-foot taller than me.

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AnthonyServinio
06-28-2010, 11:23 AM
2010 SMART PHILIPPINE INTERNATIONAL INVITATIONAL CHALLENGE
in cooperation with Meralco

FINAL STANDINGS
Champion: Smart Gilas Pilipinas
Second Place: Jordan NT
Third Place: Dongguan New Century Leopards

PRELIMINARIES
Jordan NT 3-0
Smart Gilas Pilipinas 2-1
Dongguan New Century Leopards 0-3
Note: PBA teams are not part of the standings.

June 27, 2010 (Sunday) -- Ninoy Aquino Stadium
Talk 'N Text Tropang Texters d. Dongguan New Century Leopards, 85-73 (exhibition)
Smart Gilas Pilipinas d. Jordan NT, 91-80 (Championship)

June 26, 2010 (Saturday) -- Ninoy Aquino Stadium
Smart Gilas Pilipinas d. Barangay Ginebra Gin Kings, 82-75
Jordan NT d. Dongguan New Century Leopards, 69-55

June 25, 2010 (Friday) -- Ninoy Aquino Stadium
Talk 'N Text Tropang Texters d. Dongguan New Century Leopards, 75-68
Jordan NT d. Smart Gilas Pilipinas, 83-75

June 24, 2010 (Thursday) -- Ninoy Aquino Stadium
Jordan NT d. Barangay Ginebra Gin Kings, 84-81
Smart Gilas Pilipinas d. Dongguan New Century Leopards, 74-64

INDIVIDUAL AWARDS

Best Player of the Tournament - Christopher Lutz (Smart Gilas)
Best Scorer - Allen Ronald (Dongguan)
Best Rebounder - Zaid Abbas (Jordan)
Best Passer - Sam Dahglas (Jordan)
Best Stealer - Christopher Tiu (Smart Gilas)
Best Blocker - Sun Zhe (Dongguan)

Rafiboy_05
07-13-2010, 12:50 AM
question lang. si RJ Jazul member pa rin ng Gilas? parang I saw an article sa net na kasama siya sa PBA drafts this year. I just forgot the link kung san ko siya nabasa.

razor
07-13-2010, 11:42 AM
^ read the same thing at Philstar which may mean his already out of the pool.

Schortsanitis
07-22-2010, 06:15 AM
http://mb.com.ph/articles/268143/gilas-needs-upgrade-toroman

Gilas needs upgrade — Rajko Toroman

By WAYLON GALVEZ
July 21, 2010, 6:37pm

TAIPEI — After another disappointing campaign, Smart-Gilas mentor Rajko Toroman said that he’s not only eyeing Kelly Williams but is also hoping to add at least two more PBA players to reinforce the national team’s roster for the Guangzhou Asian Games this November.

According to Toroman, the setbacks to World Championship-bound Iran and Lebanon, and to Japan clearly showed the need to upgrade the team’s frontline in order to be competitive in the Asian Games in November in Guangzhou, China.

“I think that we need to pick up little more pieces to make better result,” Toroman said, as Smart-Gilas finished fourth with a 3-3 win-loss card in the 32nd William R. Jones Cup.

“It’s not so good result, but it’s not so bad. I think that we’re close to everybody. Against Iran and Lebanon, I’m very satisfied. It showed that they’re not so far from us. But Japan, we didn’t play good in that game,” Toroman added.

Just like in the past, the mentor from Serbia, who guided Iran to the FIBA-Asia Championship in 2007 that earned a seat in the previous Beijing Olympics, reiterated the need to improve the power forward position.

Toroman mentioned anew the 6-foot-7 Williams.

However, in case the application for naturalization of American import Marcus Douthit, a 6-foot-10 center, would not be complete in time for the Asian Games, the 55-year-old Toroman said he is thinking of having another PBA player.

“Sonny Thoss or Asi Taulava, two big guys with the size who can help us. But we’ll see first what will happen to Douthit,” Toroman said.

Another PBA player who is in the radar of Toroman is wily point guard Ryan Reyes, who he said can bring consistency, balance and veteran leadership in the backcourt with national team mainstays Mark Barroca and JV Casio.

Also an option at the guard spot, according to Smart-Gilas insiders, is Rain or Shine sophomore playmaker Solomon Mercado.

But to get the PBA players, the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (SBP) has to make a request and the PBA board will have to decide on it. It is expected to be trouble-free as the pro league is a stakeholder in the SBP and the association is headed by Talk N Text owner Manny V. Pangilinan.

The goal in the Asian Games, Toroman said, is to reach the semifinals “and hopefully win a medal” although the main target of Smart-Gilas in the FIBA-Asia Championship next year in Beirut, Lebanon, the qualifying event for the 2012 London Olympics.

Smart-Gilas won against lesser teams in the Jones Cup following victories against Chinese Taipei’s University All-Star (83-52), the Australian Crocs (90-64) and Chinese Taipei national team in overtime (96-93), but lost to Iran (68-81), Japan (74-84) and Lebanon (73-62).

erichubert
07-22-2010, 01:56 PM
If Gilas is getting more PBA players then I think it defeats the purpose of training these young players for years. The point of forming Gilas is to get them to gel as a team and get international experience, bringing in 3-4 PBA players would significantly alter the team's chemistry and will also be unfair to those who sacrificed like Ballesteros, Ababou and Ramos. Asian Games pa lang yan ah, baka pag FIBA na 5 na lang matira sa original Gilas.

pachador
07-29-2010, 06:50 AM
The SBP will always need the help of PBA because once the GILAS frontliners like Slaughter, Lassiter,, etc are elevated to the PBA, the Gilas will need this Gilas-turned-pro players in the future.

The role of Gilas in player devt is to train to the max the young players and if they are good enough, they will be in the final 12 of Gilas but if not, these young players will play as reserves in the Gilas pool. In the meantime,PBA will loan to Gilas the Gilas-turned-pro players like slaughter, etc to support the better young Gilas frontliners.

if the young kid bench player becomes good enough after a year or so then of course he can be elevated to the final 12 .otherwise , he will have to be patient and if he is just bano(no good) then he will forever be a bench player.

For me its incorrect to think that a few years from now we will rely 100% only on college-level kids. if we do that we will never have the best players represent the gilas national team as there will be always a few or more better players in the PBA simply because they are more experienced.

For example, after slaughter turns pro, are there any filipino 7 footers on the horizon? none ! filipino 7 footers are as rare as UFO aliens so the Gilas will still have to borrow slaughter after 2011.

However, since the Gilas-turned-pro players already knows the toroman's system and/or are veterans of FIBA tournaments, they dont have to be pulled out too early they can just be pulled out say 2 or 3 months before a major tournament.

All the major basketball powers borrow pro players, the USA, Spain, european , Asian, latin countries use a mix of pro players and young kids while others use all-pro player national teams.

What is important is that Gilas and PBA have a smooth working relationship and make compromises with each other. for example, if Gilas wants to pull out pro players 6 months before but PBA wants to lend them only 1 month before then maybe they can compromise for 3 months instead. or say, Gilas wants Thoss , but only Taulava is available then Gilas should accept it. Its all about compromises and not an all or nothing confrontational approach.

Lastly, another important compromise that will make the PBA cooperate is for the Gilas to borrow only a maximum of 4 pro players at the most. if possible only 2 or 3 pros. This way there will be enough superstars left in the PBA during the PBA games for their fans while the 2 to 4 PBA superstars are borrowed by Gilas. It is not a perfect solution but more of a compromise, but is nevertheless, better than zero PBA reinforcements. This way, the goal of maximum young player devt is also achieved as the young ones get exposure while the goal of winning is also more achievable since the national team has PBA reinforcements. The goal of winning is less reachable if we use a 100% college kid team.
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Anyone who wants to replace a coach because his dwarf team keeps losing against bigger teams is wishing for a miracle and should get a magician. A more practical solution is to get reinforcements or better players unless one is content to wait a few more years in the hope that the dwarf players will grow wings and fly over their bigger defenders.

Schortsanitis
07-29-2010, 10:12 AM
* Ha-ha-ha ... spot on, pachador.

* Toroman's National Team had a NUMBER of goals, one of which was to develop young players. However, that is NOT its only goal. Its MAIN goal, is to get a decent placing in the Asian Games, and get a shot at the Olympics. After the poor showing of the team in its last two tournaments, its mission of getting its main goals were in danger, hence the need to reinforce the team.

* The team HAS developed young players ... but unfortunately not at the level that it could beat the Asian Basketball powerhouses like China, Iran and Lebanon in SERIOUS international competitions. You look at that team's core of players, and all of them would be potential starters for ANY PBA team. They are good enough for local ball ... but not the rest of Asia.

* Time to look at other sports also, particularly Soccer. You don't have to drop Basketball altogether, I doubt if we will every do that. Basketball is so deeply entrenched in our culture, that it would be impossible to shake if off altogether. But nothing wrong with appreciating other team sports alongside basketball also with the same passion. Let's not put all of our eggs on one basketball basket. Let's spread our eggs to different sports.

* Argentina, Spain, etc. are prime examples of multi-sport countries. If you haven't noticed, those countries excel both in Basketball, AND Soccer.

pachador
07-29-2010, 01:16 PM
according to interbasket forum, gilas is not going to stankovic cup. if this is true, fiba can sanction us. I hope this was not a unilateral decision by one man not to go. can anyone verify this ? if true, can you all spread this bad news because its does not make us look good:
http://forums.interbasket.net/f32/sbp-long-term-national-team-pool-13771/p69.html

BedanRoar
07-29-2010, 08:02 PM
* Time to look at other sports also, particularly Soccer. You don't have to drop Basketball altogether, I doubt if we will every do that. Basketball is so deeply entrenched in our culture, that it would be impossible to shake if off altogether. But nothing wrong with appreciating other team sports alongside basketball also with the same passion. Let's not put all of our eggs on one basketball basket. Let's spread our eggs to different sports.

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Off Topic:

Even in soccer, we have a Looooong way to go! No funds for this sport kaya hanggang ngayon, Kilala tayo sa tactics na "Sipa-Takbo" (no improvement)!

Although I agree that we have potential in this sport.

pachador
08-02-2010, 04:10 AM
i think PBA will be more enthusiastic and compromising with helping if the SBP also adopt a compromise stand of requesting only those PBA players who are available such as from teams that did not make the semi-finals or if there is no pba conference. This is specially true for practice tournaments like jones cup then when its a big tournament like fiba-asia then im sure PBA can make a little sacrifice and tweak the pba conference schedule(since the fiba-asia is only once every 2 years). its all about compromises by all parties instead of an all-or-nothing attitude. We dont live in a perfect world as things are never fair. Going for a win-win stance will make all parties or members of the SBP united and friendly and not confrontational and bitter towards each other.

There is will always be a place for PBA players in the Gilas national pool specially when the senior gilas players turn pro like Slaughter, lassiter, etc. Insisting on a pure collegiate gilas squad is laughable and stupid when countries like Spain, USA, Argentina, korea, japan. lebanon, china, Iran, taiwan, etc regularly send Pro players. When will Gilas find another filipino 7 footer like Slaughter ? maybe, we wait again for the next 5 or 10 years LOL.
A hybrid gilas squad of 8 or 10 young kids plus 2 or 4 PBA reinforcements is the best compromise to make all parties happy and we get the best possible national team borne out of compromise by all parties. It wont guarantee a championship, but it should guarantee a respectable finish and no more humiliating lop-sided(tambak) losses.

local young player development as a major goal if Gilas is a noble goal but at the same time hypocritical when you consider that gilas has filam reinforcements like slaughter, lutz, lassiter so lets stop beating around the bush and make gilas a true national pool of players from 3 sources - local collegiate, Pro and fil-ams, and this is achievable with compromises by all parties.

pachador
08-02-2010, 05:06 AM
i think PBA will be more enthusiastic and compromising with helping if the SBP also adopt a compromise stand of requesting only those PBA players who are available such as from teams that did not make the semi-finals or if there is no pba conference. This is specially true for practice tournaments like jones cup then when its a big tournament like fiba-asia then im sure PBA can make a little sacrifice and tweak the pba conference schedule(since the fiba-asia is only once every 2 years). its all about compromises by all parties instead of an all-or-nothing attitude. We dont live in a perfect world as things are never fair. Going for a win-win stance will make all parties or members of the SBP united and friendly and not confrontational and bitter towards each other.

There is will always be a place for PBA players in the Gilas national pool specially when the senior gilas players turn pro like Slaughter, lassiter, etc. Insisting on a pure collegiate gilas squad is laughable and stupid when countries like Spain, USA, Argentina, korea, japan. lebanon, china, Iran, taiwan, etc regularly send Pro players. When will Gilas find another filipino 7 footer like Slaughter ? maybe, we wait again for the next 5 or 10 years LOL.
A hybrid gilas squad of 8 or 10 young kids plus 2 or 4 PBA reinforcements is the best compromise to make all parties happy and we get the best possible national team borne out of compromise by all parties. It wont guarantee a championship, but it should guarantee a respectable finish and no more humiliating lop-sided(tambak) losses.

local young player development as a major goal of Gilas is a noble goal but at the same time hypocritical when you consider that gilas has filam reinforcements like slaughter, lutz, lassiter so lets stop beating around the bush and make gilas a true national pool of players from 3 sources - local collegiate, Pro and fil-ams, and this is achievable with compromises and humility by all parties.

Schortsanitis
08-02-2010, 10:02 PM
Since Smart-Gilas is the one asking for help, then it shouldn't be so demanding on what kind of help it should get. It would be like someone saying, "I need your help, and you should give me this".

Let's face it, no amount of PBA reinforcement will make any RP National team beat the Chinese, Iranians, or even Lebanese in serious tournaments soon.

rabbaddal
08-06-2010, 12:11 AM
In an ideal scenario, there should be a seamless integration from the junior to the professional levels. If you look at the other international teams, you’ll find a healthy combination of grizzled vets from club teams and teenagers. That way, the talent pipeline keeps flowing. The trouble for the Philippines is that its pro ranks are lacking marquee players who have strong enough fundamentals to excel in the international level. So at this stage, Smart Gilas has to start with a very young team. Eventually, today’s young players will become pros but will still keep their affiliation with Gilas. So some of them can be tapped to work with the next batch of younger players. That’s going to take some time to materialize though.

The_Big_Cat
08-08-2010, 11:24 AM
FIBA Asia Stankovic Cup
Aug. 7-15, 2010 (Lebanon)

Group A:
Kazakhstan
Japan
Chinese Taipei
Iraq
Iran

Group B:
Lebanon
Qatar
Syria
Philippines
Jordan

Aug.8 RP v Lebanon (2:30am)
Aug.9 RP v Syria (2:00am)
Aug.10 RP v Jordan (12:15am)
Aug.11 RP v Qatar (12:15am)

LIVE streaming:

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Joescoundrel
09-13-2010, 08:37 AM
Smart Gilas lost to the SK Knights of Korea 76-75 in a tuneup for the Knights at the Ynares in Pasig last night. Gilas had the 75-50 lead in the last two and a half minutes, but the South Korean powerhouse went to the long ball then set up the high-low play with some 13 seconds to go to slip past the Nationals. Mac Baracael, Dylan Ababou, JV Casio and import Marcus Douthit stayed toe-to-tow with the hot-shooting Koreans and even kpet them away from their favorite staggered screen sets. A few missed layups by the Filipinos however sealed the deal for the Korean side. Ironically Gilas beat this same SK squad by this same exact score just last week.

Gilas flies off to China this week for a tuneup tournament in preparation for the Asian championships in November. Douthit's citizenship status is still in doubt as the SBP has yet to finalize these with Congress.

eightyfiver
09-16-2010, 08:38 AM
Since Smart-Gilas is the one asking for help, then it shouldn't be so demanding on what kind of help it should get. It would be like someone saying, "I need your help, and you should give me this".

Let's face it, no amount of PBA reinforcement will make any RP National team beat the Chinese, Iranians, or even Lebanese in serious tournaments soon.


He should stick to his present Gilas team without the PBA reinforcement. How can we gauge his system if there would be band-aid solutions? It's like an experiment wherein you have to minimize all the extraneous variables.

Schortsanitis
09-16-2010, 05:09 PM
He should stick to his present Gilas team without the PBA reinforcement. How can we gauge his system if there would be band-aid solutions? It's like an experiment wherein you have to minimize all the extraneous variables.


If you ask me, the result in that last tournament showed that no matter how good your system is, if you're working with a bunch of midgets, it can only go so far. LOL

Meaning, it still won't let you win the Asian Games title. With PBA reinforcements, it will improve the chances, and the placing perhaps of the team by one or two notches. Still, nothing wrong with using the best talent available to you.

oca
09-23-2010, 08:00 AM
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=614576&publicationSubCategoryId=69

SBP submits 12-man RP team to Asiad
By Joey Villar (The Philippine Star) Updated September 23, 2010 12:00 AM Comments (27) View comments


MANILA, Philippines - The Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas yesterday met the deadline set by the Philippine Olympic Committee for the submission of its 12-man roster for this year’s Asian Games with top guards Chris Tiu and Mark Barroca heading the list that includes pros Asi Taulava and Kelly Williams.

The SBP also included in the lineup Mac Baracael, JV Casio, Dylan Ababou, Greg Slaughter, Japeth Aguilar, Jason Ballesteros, Marcio Lassiter and Aldrech Ramos.

Smart Gilas coach Rajko Toroman, however, hinted there would be minor changes in the roster, especially if some players sustain injury, before the Asiad slated in November in Guangzhou, China.

“We can actually do it before the manager’s meeting, we have the right to replace a player if he’s injured,” said Toroman.

“With the Asian Games still months away, anything can happen so we have to be ready with all the possibilities,” he said.

“Submission to POC is a matter of compliance and formality. Lineup still subject to change,” SBP executive director Noli Eala said.

The cage body also said that there is the possibility of adding naturalization candidate Marcus Douthit as a late entry to the team.

The 6-10 Douthit’s naturalization papers are currently being processed in Congress with SBP officials hopeful the American would be granted Filipino citizenship in time for the quadrennial event.

Butch Antonio, deputy Smart Gilas project director, said Douthit may apply for a separate accreditation, which will eventually be coursed through the POC working committee headed by Joey Romasanta.

The SBP is also thinking of replacing Lassiter, a 6-foot Fil-Am guard currently in the US rehabilitating an injured hip he sustained in the Stankovic Cup in Beirut, Lebanon recently.

Toroman said he will discuss Lassiter’s fate with SBP officials with top PBA pro like San Miguel’s Dondon Hontiveros, Sol Mercado or Gabe Norwood from Rain or Shine and Ren Ren Ritualo from Powerade, as possible replacement.

Derby Ace’s James Yap, one of the three PBA players the SBP tapped to reinforce the team, has already begged off due to personal reasons.

The PBA board has unanimously approved in its recent meeting in Thailand the stint of Taulava, Williams and a third player for the Asiad-bound squad.

Meanwhile, Chris Lutz’ RP passport is also being processed with the Fil-Am a candidate for team later.

machine101
09-23-2010, 06:06 PM
rain or shine's sol mercado is said to join the team in asiad

Tigercub
09-23-2010, 11:22 PM
^ the next question is sino ang idadrop ng SBP sa line up na sinubmit nila kahapon...

coreytaylor
09-24-2010, 09:02 AM
Solomon gets third PBA spot in RP five
By Nelson Beltran (The Philippine Star)
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=614832&publicationSubCategoryId=69

MANILA, Philippines - Rain or Shine guard Solomon Mercado took the slot left by James Yap in the Smart Gilas RP team bound for the Asian Games with Asian Coating officials, saying his inclusion is an honor to the team.

Mercado, the 5-foot-11 guard who made a big impact in his first two seasons in the pros, was coach Rajko Toroman’s choice for the third and last slot for PBA players after Asi Taulava and Kelly Williams. Yap, one of the original picks, has begged off due to personal reasons.

“It’s an honor for us to lend Sol Mercado. Hopefully, we can help the national team accomplish its mission,” said Asian Coating owners Raymund Yu and Terry Que.

“For as long as it’s for flag and country, we are ready to sacrifice,” they added.

The stint of the three players to the RP team was approved by the PBA board of governors in its just concluded planning session in Bangkok, Thailand.

“We’re glad to be of help to the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas. We will pray for their success,” said PBA board chair Rene Pardo moments after Rain or Shine approved Mercado’s entry to the national team even if this would greatly affect its campaign in the coming Philippine Cup.

Mercado emerged as Rain or Shine’s top gun last season as he put in 16.7 points, 4.6 assists, 3.8 rebounds and 1.2 steals an outing.

“We are happy for Sol despite knowing how important he is for our campaign this coming season. It’s everyone’s dream to play for the national team and we hope we can help the national team,” said Rain or Shine coach Caloy Garcia.

“We are happy that his skills and possible contribution have been acknowledged. He is a strong player with the heart of a winner and given the chance, he will do the country proud,” said Rain or Shine board representative Mamerto Mondragon.

Mercado, a Fil-foreign player who played with Biola University in the United States, is reinforcing the Smart Gilas backcourt weakened by an injury to Marcio Lassiter.

To meet the deadline set by the Philippine Olympic Committee, SBP submitted the names of Taulava, Williams, Lassiter, Chris Tiu, Mark Barroca, Mac Baracael, JV Casio, Dylan Ababou, Greg Slaughter, Japeth Aguilar, Jason Ballesteros and Aldrech Ramos to its 12-man roster.

Toroman, however, said necessary changes would be made before the Asiad set Nov. 12-27.

The RP team is making a comeback in the Asiad wars after missing the 2006 Doha, Qatar Games due to suspension in the Fiba rolls.

The 2002 all-pro team, handled by coach Jong Uichico, narrowly missed the gold-medal game in the Busan Asiad on a sorry endgame loss to the host team.

The 1990 PBA selection by coach Robert Jaworski won the silver medal in Beijing before the 1994 team of coach Norman Black skidded to fourth in Hiroshima then the 1998 RP Centennial team of coach Tim Cone pocketed the bronze in Bangkok.

PBA commissioner Chito Salud and the league board chair are set to meet with the SBP leadership to discuss, among others, the exact tenure of the three PBA players to the Smart Gilas team.

The training and actual participation of Smart Gilas team in the coming Asiad run smack to the schedule of the PBA all-Filipino tourney.

coreytaylor
09-24-2010, 09:03 AM
Last-minute changes likely for Pinoy cagers
http://www.gmanews.tv/story/201788/last-minute-changes-likely-for-pinoy-cagers

After tapping the services of a third Philippine Basketball Association superstar in Sol Mercado, more changes in the lineup of RP-Smart Gilas are likely to take place.

Fil-foreign players Marcio Lassiter and Chris Lutz and American Marcus Douthit might be included in the roster , with Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (SBP) intending to request the Asian Games organizing committee to give them late accreditation, according to Rajko Toroman.

Assuming Lutz and Douthit, the national team’s candidates for naturalization, secure their Philippine passports in time for the Asiad, the two will also likely be included in the RP lineup.

The inclusion of the stocky Rain or Shine stalwart Mercado was also a move to cover up the 1 or 2 spots in case Lassiter fails to recover from a dislocated hip he suffered during the team’s stint in the Stankovic Cup.

“We don’t know the situation of Lassiter right now," said Toroman of the 6-foot guard currently undergoing rehabilitation in the U.S. “But if he comes back, we’ll definitely be a strong team in the Asiad."

“I think we now have a competitive team to the Asian Games," added Toroman shortly after being informed that Mercado was finally given the go-signal by his mother team to don the national colors for the Nov. 12-27 quadrennial meet.

Toroman had a ringside view of Mercado Wednesday when the Elasto Painters and the Derby Ace Llamados held a tune-up game, which the reigning Philippine Cup champions won.

While the 6-foot-1 guard out of Biola University in Southern California played "decent" during the exhibition match, “the important thing was that he’s healthy."

“With Mercado in the team, that 1-2 position in our backcourt is very secure for us," added the national coach, whose team plays the Meralco Bolts in a tune-up game Friday.

Mercado is the third PBA player added by RP-Smart Gilas after Asi Taulava and Kelly Williams.

Aside from the three PBA stars, also included in the national team roster are skipper Chris Tiu, Mark Barroca, Mac Baracael, JV Casio, Dylan Ababou, Japeth Aguilar, Greg Slaughter, Jason Ballesteros and Aldrech Ramos.

naz-T
09-24-2010, 09:25 PM
Akala ko ba grassroot program ang purpose na pagkuha kay Toroman? Para mag develop ng National pool at idevelop ang mga bata diba? Bakit kumuha ng PBA players? parang salungat na sa original idea ng Smart Gilas. Kung ganon din pala sana dati pa kumuha ng mga PBA players para mas matagal nagkasama sa RP team at mas gumanda sana ang chemistry ng team. Hindi yun ngayon na konti nalang ang time nila para mag practice

rabbaddal
09-25-2010, 08:11 PM
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The inclusion of PBA players was due to public pressure on SG to deliver instant results. Originally, the goal was simply to reach the Asian Games semis, but eventually it morphed into having to win a medal. So now, RP has to accomplish in 3 years what took more than a decade for Iran and Lebanon to achieve.

Schortsanitis
09-25-2010, 08:59 PM
Yes, I agree, because the Philippines only started learning how to play basketball about a decade ago. LOL

rabbaddal
09-25-2010, 09:19 PM
Stoops. The Philippines won Asian Games medals in 1986, 1990 and 1998 even without a basketball program.

Schortsanitis
09-26-2010, 08:26 AM
What logic.

And then suddenly we now need a decade long program to win a medal, while Iran already won GOLD medals in the tough Asian tournaments, and already has a legitimate NBA player despite having played the game for only a couple of decades.

Who's stupid now? LOL

rabbaddal
09-26-2010, 10:51 AM
You are the one who's stupid. The target is to qualify for the 2012 Olympics. Does that sound like "a decade from now" to you? Did you study beyond elementary school?

And yes, the Philippines has won more Asian Games and ABC GOLD medals than Iran. So don't get so excited over a bunch of half bathed goat lovers just yet. ;D

Schortsanitis
09-26-2010, 11:22 AM
Goodness. So hard arguing with people with low IQ. LOL

I wonder who's the idiot who keeps saying that Lebanon and Iran had a decade long basketball program, that's why they are so successful as an excuse everytime Smart Gilas trips, hmm?

Philippines, winning Gold medal in the Asian Basketball competitions? Really? Well, how many GOLD medals and NBA players have we had in the last thirty-five years, genius?

And obviously somebody is getting excited about a bunch of midgets out there on the court, tirelessly supporting and defending them. LOL

rabbaddal
09-26-2010, 11:42 AM
Mr. hollow head, you've been slow to get the point. You made the dumb comment about the Philippines only "starting to learn" basketball about a decade ago. Yet as recent as the past two decades, the Philippines has won a silver and two bronzes. A country that started to learn basketball a decade ago would never have made it past previous elimination rounds. What more the Philippines that didn't send well prepared teams but won medals nonetheless.

And don't use the NBA to backpedal on dumb comments you make. They will stick no matter how hard you try. So did you really study past elementary school? You just proved you don't know how to count a decade. ;D

Schortsanitis
09-26-2010, 01:36 PM
Typical Gilas nuthugger. LOL

Making stupid excuses like, "we need a decade more of a national team before we can win a medal in a major Asian Basketball tournament" everytime the team loses.

And then IGNORING facts like that the Philippines have been playing the sport since the 1900s, and yet is being beaten by taller teams like Iran who have been at the sport for only decades.

Bring your stupidity elsewhere, we're not stupid enough to buy all your "nutthuggisms".

We're not "fantasizers" here like you. I base my opinions on facts, not fantasies like you.

LOL

naz-T
09-26-2010, 09:46 PM
I have to agree with the opinion of Schortsanitis,

Philippine team used to lord it over the Asian region when it comes to basketball. If I am right, lumalaban pa tayo dati kahit sa non Asian countries who are bigger and taller. But what's happening to us now?

Let's not look too far. Not long ago, any Philippine collegiate team could toy around with the National team of Chinese Taipei. I think because basketball is not really a famous sport in their place. And because they have good grass-root program for their basketball, I think it's a different story now if we face them. The team they send to Jones cup is not even their national team.

Smart Gilas is suppose to be a program for a "young" team to train together. The team will eventually improve if the materials and program is the right one.

Bigla ata nag change ng program, nakaramdam lang ng konting improvements, nagmamadali agad. Nagpasok pa ng hindi na "young". Nothing against the pros, pero kawawa naman yung mga nag sacrifice ng time nila dati. They turned back their chance to go pros earlier for the national program diba?

rabbaddal
09-26-2010, 11:48 PM
Typical Gilas nuthugger. LOL

Making stupid excuses like, "we need a decade more of a national team before we can win a medal in a major Asian Basketball tournament" everytime the team loses.

And then IGNORING facts like that the Philippines have been playing the sport since the 1900s, and yet is being beaten by taller teams like Iran who have been at the sport for only decades.

Bring your stupidity elsewhere, we're not stupid enough to buy all your "nutthuggisms".

We're not "fantasizers" here like you. I base my opinions on facts, not fantasies like you.

LOL


Do not try to change the topic, imbecile. OK, I’ll lay it out for you -



Yes, I agree, because the Philippines only started learning how to play basketball about a decade ago. LOL


It’s obvious your post reflects your ignorance of the facts, because the Philippine team won Asian Games silver and bronze medals between 1990 and 2000. The Philippines did not “learn how to play basketball about a decade ago”. If what you said was true, then they wouldn’t have made it past the eliminations. Get the logic?

Next time, don’t talk about things you don’t know anything about, like counting in 10s. :D

So, how do you count a decade again, Mr. grade school graduate?

Schortsanitis
09-27-2010, 07:32 AM
Do not try to change the topic, imbecile. OK, I’ll lay it out for you -

Nobody's changing the topic, moron. I'm just pointing out your stupidity of being a Gilas nuthugger.


It’s obvious your post reflects your ignorance of the facts, because the Philippine team won Asian Games silver and bronze medals between 1990 and 2000. The Philippines did not “learn how to play basketball about a decade ago”. If what you said was true, then they wouldn’t have made it past the eliminations. Get the logic?

Next time, don’t talk about things you don’t know anything about, like counting in 10s. :D

So, how do you count a decade again, Mr. grade school graduate?



That's supposed to be sarcastic, dimwit. If you can't even recognize sarcasm, it shows just how stupid you are. LOL

Logic? The Philippines has been playing basketball since the 1900s, and now can't win a gold medal against taller teams that has only started playing the sport decades ago, and you go on making stupid excuses like, "we don't have a long term national program".

You call that logic? Go back to whatever mediocre hole it is that you crawled out from. LOL

rabbaddal
09-27-2010, 08:47 AM
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More stupid backpedaling from you. First you challenged the facts, now you're changing your story by calling it "sarcasm" only after being reminded several times that you were wrong. Look, I don't blame you for not getting past elementary school, OK? But if you are absolutely wrong about something, you call it a mistake. Don't pretend that the facts are wrong and don't call it "sarcasm". ;)

oca
09-27-2010, 10:51 AM
L echeng usapan yan.... >:(

Schortsanitis
09-27-2010, 11:27 AM
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More stupid backpedaling from you. First you challenged the facts, now you're changing your story by calling it "sarcasm" only after being reminded several times that you were wrong. Look, I don't blame you for not getting past elementary school, OK? But if you are absolutely wrong about something, you call it a mistake. Don't pretend that the facts are wrong and don't call it "sarcasm". ;)


Hey, moron, you're the only idiot here who couldn't recognize that statement as "sarcasm". That's what happens, when your IQ is no bigger than your beltline. LOL

rabbaddal
09-27-2010, 11:52 AM
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So now you're saying proper vocabulary is a numbers game. Being stupid must be tough for you, huh? Read again - A mistake is NOT sarcasm. You're still confused. :D

MonL
09-27-2010, 01:07 PM
This discussion is going nowhere. :(

gameface_one
09-27-2010, 02:27 PM
Hey Rab/Short, cut it or else you'll be penalized.

Let's keep the discussion without the emotions ok? If you have something to say to one another, use the PM function instead.

salsa caballero
09-27-2010, 04:07 PM
Or we could give them their own thread instead? Like a rab and short discussion thread?

In this way, we could talk about Gilas on this thread and they could still have their fun for all to see?

Schortsanitis
09-27-2010, 04:54 PM
Or we could give them their own thread instead? Like a rab and short discussion thread?

In this way, we could talk about Gilas on this thread and they could still have their fun for all to see?


Nah. Getting tired of arguing with reta ... I mean, Smart Gilas obsessed fans. LOL

rabbaddal
09-27-2010, 06:36 PM
That's the way to do it if you can't handle a debate. Just back off. ;D

Schortsanitis
09-28-2010, 07:34 AM
Mods, am not gonna respond to that anymore. I ask that the poster be banned, if he continues with this kind of an attittude. Thanks.

jembengzon
09-28-2010, 08:39 AM
Schort/ Rab - Guys, drop it and knock it off- Gameface one has spoken already, and your debate ceased to be interesting a couple of pages ago. For a couple of pretty respected and intelligent posters, who have contributed much to the success of intelligent discussion in this site, the last few posts have been PEX -like, and pretty surprising coming from you 2. :)

Please don't take the friendly word of advice wrongly :). Agree to disagree, and let's all move on in the discussion. Thanks, chiefs. :)

gameface_one
09-28-2010, 10:58 AM
I'm not really in the mood to impose some penalties YET so pls just don't wait for that to happen.

Both of you are respected members/posers in this site. Pls carry on with that image.

Thanks Jem.

pio_valenz
09-28-2010, 12:11 PM
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The inclusion of PBA players was due to public pressure on SG to deliver instant results. Originally, the goal was simply to reach the Asian Games semis, but eventually it morphed into having to win a medal. So now, RP has to accomplish in 3 years what took more than a decade for Iran and Lebanon to achieve.

Question: why the sudden pressure to medal at the Asian Games? Don't get me wrong; if we medal then well and good. But the Asian Games isn't even a qualifier for any international tournament, so it won't be the end of the world if we don't make it to the medal round. This would actually be the best time to field in an all-amateur line-up. Besides, I thought all along that the goal was to qualify for the London Olympics?

And what happens if we don't medal? Will SG be disbanded? Sorry kung madaming tanong, but I just keep going back to Noli Eala's rather arrogant statement after the 2009 FIBA-Asia tournament where the Powerade-PBA team placed 8th. He said that the PBA had its chance, and it failed. So the SBP would now be taking over the national team and the country's participation in all future national tournaments. Tapos ngayon, sa PBA din pala sila hihingi ng tulong?

If the SBP is gonna ask help from the PBA in forming the national team, then they should just come out and say so. Enough of this developmental team ek-ek. Now, if the team does get a medal at the Asian Games, what next? Will the SBP still ask the PBA for help in the 2011 FIBA-Asia tournament? Because that's really the tournament that counts.

rabbaddal
09-28-2010, 10:41 PM
jembengzon and gameface_one,

I do not have any patience or respect for idiots like him. The fact that he is getting petty and asking me to be banned proves that my comments about him have been right all along.

I stand by my posts.

rabbaddal
09-28-2010, 10:54 PM
Question: why the sudden pressure to medal at the Asian Games? Don't get me wrong; if we medal then well and good. But the Asian Games isn't even a qualifier for any international tournament, so it won't be the end of the world if we don't make it to the medal round. This would actually be the best time to field in an all-amateur line-up. Besides, I thought all along that the goal was to qualify for the London Olympics?

And what happens if we don't medal? Will SG be disbanded? Sorry kung madaming tanong, but I just keep going back to Noli Eala's rather arrogant statement after the 2009 FIBA-Asia tournament where the Powerade-PBA team placed 8th. He said that the PBA had its chance, and it failed. So the SBP would now be taking over the national team and the country's participation in all future national tournaments. Tapos ngayon, sa PBA din pala sila hihingi ng tulong?

If the SBP is gonna ask help from the PBA in forming the national team, then they should just come out and say so. Enough of this developmental team ek-ek. Now, if the team does get a medal at the Asian Games, what next? Will the SBP still ask the PBA for help in the 2011 FIBA-Asia tournament? Because that's really the tournament that counts.


Effectively, it may come to a disbandment (or knee-jerk reorganization of the program) if short term goals are not met, and that includes not winning a medal in the AG. It could also come to SBP asking for help from the PBA for FIBA Asia 2011. My guess is that if the target were extended to 2015 instead (which isn't too far away in the horizon), they can form a championship-caliber team without asking for PBA help. Or maybe PBA players who've been through the Gilas system can participate, but on the SBP's terms like how they do it in Lebanon where pros like Vromann and Fahed still play for the NT despite joining clubs overseas. But Filipino fans may not be willing to wait that long.

pio_valenz
09-29-2010, 11:08 AM
^I think it all boils down to managing expectations. If the SBP is really committed to this program, then they should bite the bullet and go long term without PBA help. It took Iran more than three years to become a contender, same with Lebanon. To hell with what the public wants.

Ang nangyayari kasi, puro stop-gap solutions. If the Philippines does qualify for the 2012 Olympics, but with PBA help, then we're back in the same vicious cycle, that is, relying on the PBA for help. I say if they're gonna stick with running a developmental pool free of PBA reinforcements, then stick with it and take a leap of faith. But if they're gonna get the PBA's help, then let the PBA run the national team again. It's hard on the PBA teams who have to suddenly loan their players.