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baludoy
08-09-2006, 08:27 AM
malaking impact yung sweep ng blue eagles at blue eaglets sa liga, kaya ang tanong ko kailan at anong unibersidad ang huling nakakamit ng kampeonato sa seniors, juniors, at women's division?

sorry ms mod, don't know where to post this question that's been eating me up since the other night ;D

Kid Cubao
08-09-2006, 08:54 AM
malaking impact yung sweep ng blue eagles at blue eaglets sa liga, kaya ang tanong ko kailan at anong unibersidad ang huling nakakamit ng kampeonato sa seniors, juniors, at women's division?

UST, in 1994.

baludoy
08-09-2006, 05:18 PM
^who were the more notable players who made that sweep possible for ust?

mangtsito
08-09-2006, 10:06 PM
Dale Singson, Bal David, Richard Yee etc...

Jester Marie Te sa Women's

Can't recall anyone from the juniors... most probably Gerald Francisco.

Jump_Shooter
08-09-2006, 10:28 PM
baludoy, bago ko sagutin ang iyong bagong katanungan, gusto ko lamang ipaalam sa iyo na hindi po ako "ms mod" kundi "mr mod".

Ngayon, doon sa tanong mo, sa seniors, ang mga manlalaro ay kasama sina Dennis Espino, Rey Evangelista, Bal David, Edmund Reyes, at Henry Ong. Sa juniors, ang naaalala ko lamang ay si Gerard Francisco na siyang ring hinirang na MVP. Sa women's, wala akong kilala.

Malaki ang pag-asa na maulit ito ngayong taon. Kailangan lang na makontra ng Ateneo ang malas na ito: tuwing kampeonato ang kanilang seniors team, doon naman hindi nagcha-champion ang kanilang juniors team (1987, 1988, 2002).

5FootCarrot
08-10-2006, 08:09 AM
baludoy, bago ko sagutin ang iyong bagong katanungan, gusto ko lamang ipaalam sa iyo na hindi po ako "ms mod" kundi "mr mod".

Don't worry, JS, ako yung "Ms Mod" na tinutukoy niya.

This discussion originated in the BEN and I moved it here because it was about the UAAP in general and not just about Ateneo. I realized later that I should have edited the text of the post; sorry about that :-[ (and sorry I forgot to PM you about the topic moving)

baludoy
08-10-2006, 08:33 AM
so sa history ng uaap, isang beses pa lang nangyari ang championship sweep na 'to, mr mod? :)

Bennie Bangag
08-10-2006, 08:42 AM
I think UAAP women's basketball was introduced sometime in the late 80s, so if we're thinking a sweep of the basketball titles that includes the women's championship, then it is likely the UST grand slam is the first of its kind.

bluebruiser90
08-10-2006, 09:10 AM
Women's basketball first made its debut in 1950 but only had a 4 year run with FEU winning every title disputed.* It resurfaced again in 1976 and was a predominantly UST - UP affair with the two teams meeting in the finals for 10 straight years.* UP won 7 titles, a* three peat ('76, '77, '78) and four ward run ('80,'81,'82 and '83) while UST won in '79 before capping the rivalry with a back to back ('84 and '85). The Lady Falcons will make a brief appearance as champions in '86 before UST's four ward run of its own ('87-'90).* Juniors action started in 1979 and the 1994 sweep of all basketball titles by UST is the only one so far in UAAP history.

Prior to the 1994 sweep by UST, the only time I remember any other school having a shot at it was Ateneo in 1987 when all their teams made the finals.* The Peachy Cheng led Lady Eagles lost to UST that started the 4 title run for the Lady Goldies.

Jump_Shooter
08-10-2006, 02:17 PM
baludoy, bago ko sagutin ang iyong bagong katanungan, gusto ko lamang ipaalam sa iyo na hindi po ako "ms mod" kundi "mr mod".

Don't worry, JS, ako yung "Ms Mod" na tinutukoy niya.

This discussion originated in the BEN and I moved it here because it was about the UAAP in general and not just about Ateneo. I realized later that I should have edited the text of the post; sorry about that :-[ (and sorry I forgot to PM you about the topic moving)

Ah, okay. Now I understand. :) Thanks Carrot.



so sa history ng uaap, isang beses pa lang nangyari ang championship sweep na 'to, mr mod? :)

Yes, UST pa lang.

tamarawz_14
08-11-2006, 09:17 PM
malaki rin ang chance ng FEU mg-champion sa juniors so far second place also our womens tied at 1st place.. if our FEU seniors act together this coming 2nd round.... wish ko lng...

go tams

Mel
08-15-2006, 01:22 PM
UST had the Te sisters in the women's division...
sa juniors: Gerard Francisco and MeL latoreno
(di ko pa rin malaman kung paano nila natalo yung all star Eaglets of Pasion/Driz/Cristi/Pinzon/Morga/Quimpo and Pamintuan)
Sa seniors: I suggest pumunta ka sa gym ng USt..may individual pictures yung players ng team sa lobby.
(kasama sa team si Lester Del rosario...anak ni Aric)

mangtsito
08-16-2006, 10:43 AM
UST also holds the distinction of being the only school ever that won the championship via a 14 game elimination-round sweep.

No other school will get to repeat the same achievement because a year after that, the UAAP amended the rules by rewarding a team that makes a 14-game sweep with only an automatic finals appearance, instead of an automatic championship.

ruel
08-16-2006, 04:09 PM
UST also holds the distinction of being the only school ever that won the championship via a 14 game elimination-round sweep.

No other school will get to repeat the same achievement because a year after that, the UAAP amended the rules by rewarding a team that makes a 14-game sweep with only an automatic finals appearance, instead of an automatic championship.


I guess the FEU 3-peat team of early eighties ( Anthony Williams era ) did the same feat , only it was a 12 game sweep 'cause La Salle was not a member at that time.

kryptonite
08-17-2006, 02:48 AM
UST also holds the distinction of being the only school ever that won the championship via a 14 game elimination-round sweep.

No other school will get to repeat the same achievement because a year after that, the UAAP amended the rules by rewarding a team that makes a 14-game sweep with only an automatic finals appearance, instead of an automatic championship.


I guess the FEU 3-peat team of early eighties ( Anthony Williams era ) did the same feat , only it was a 12 game sweep 'cause La Salle was not a member at that time.


How many times did they do it? 2 times? Who were the notables aside from Williams?

Hoops McCann
08-17-2006, 05:31 AM
UST also holds the distinction of being the only school ever that won the championship via a 14 game elimination-round sweep.

No other school will get to repeat the same achievement because a year after that, the UAAP amended the rules by rewarding a team that makes a 14-game sweep with only an automatic finals appearance, instead of an automatic championship.


I guess the FEU 3-peat team of early eighties ( Anthony Williams era ) did the same feat , only it was a 12 game sweep 'cause La Salle was not a member at that time.


i remember that great FEU dynasty led by anthony williams. his notable teammates were romanito roa and the amador guy, can't recall his first name.

bluebruiser90
08-17-2006, 07:01 AM
Glenn Capacio and Harmon Codinera were on the tail end of those teams. Same thing with their backcourt of Ramonito Roa and Onnie "Gorilla" Padilla.

pepman
08-15-2008, 04:21 PM
UST also holds the distinction of being the only school ever that won the championship via a 14 game elimination-round sweep.

No other school will get to repeat the same achievement because a year after that, the UAAP amended the rules by rewarding a team that makes a 14-game sweep with only an automatic finals appearance, instead of an automatic championship.


I guess the FEU 3-peat team of early eighties ( Anthony Williams era ) did the same feat , only it was a 12 game sweep 'cause La Salle was not a member at that time.


i remember that great FEU dynasty led by anthony williams. his notable teammates were romanito roa and the amador guy, can't recall his first name.


I guess you are referring to Alfredo "Pong" Amador who's now with the Red Bull Barakos

Howard the Duck
08-15-2008, 09:03 PM
immortalized ang 1994 triple champs sa gym ng UST, may plaque sila doon :)

Dark Knight
08-15-2008, 10:03 PM
The FEU 3 peat with 2 sweeps is between 80 to 82 or 81 to 83.

Didnt bother to check but it falls on those dates.

pepman
08-17-2008, 09:18 PM
Sinu-sinong teams ang nagkaroon po ng 0-14 record in the UAAP?
Ang alam ko lang po eto...
1998-2000 Adamson Falcons
2007 UP

A-boy97
08-28-2008, 08:12 PM
^ not sure about the year but NU had a couple of winless seasons. dlsu had winless seasons in 2004-2005.

Emon74
09-14-2008, 08:30 AM
UST also holds the distinction of being the only school ever that won the championship via a 14 game elimination-round sweep.

No other school will get to repeat the same achievement because a year after that, the UAAP amended the rules by rewarding a team that makes a 14-game sweep with only an automatic finals appearance, instead of an automatic championship.


I guess the FEU 3-peat team of early eighties ( Anthony Williams era ) did the same feat , only it was a 12 game sweep 'cause La Salle was not a member at that time.


i've read about this american boy, anthony williams, who became a motorcycle cop in the US, he led FEU to a sweep and the UAAP title in 1983, the game between FEU and UE, nagpatalo daw si Allan Caidic, missing two free throws with no time left.

-insane-
09-14-2008, 04:58 PM
Sinu-sinong teams ang nagkaroon po ng 0-14 record in the UAAP?
Ang alam ko lang po eto...
1998-2000 Adamson Falcons
2007 UP


2003nu

a_ron
09-14-2008, 09:36 PM
^who were the more notable players who made that sweep possible for ust?

Henry Ong with his 3 points its a dagger

bchoter
09-14-2008, 09:41 PM
Di ba na sweep ang Eagles in their early years in the UAAP?

a_ron
09-14-2008, 09:43 PM
^who were the more notable players who made that sweep possible for ust?


Henry Ong with his 3 points its a dagger

fujima04
09-14-2008, 10:07 PM
^who were the more notable players who made that sweep possible for ust?


Henry Ong with his 3 points its a dagger


Add Chris Cantonjos as one of the notable players at that time.

MonL
09-14-2008, 10:54 PM
UST also holds the distinction of being the only school ever that won the championship via a 14 game elimination-round sweep.

No other school will get to repeat the same achievement because a year after that, the UAAP amended the rules by rewarding a team that makes a 14-game sweep with only an automatic finals appearance, instead of an automatic championship.


I guess the FEU 3-peat team of early eighties ( Anthony Williams era ) did the same feat , only it was a 12 game sweep 'cause La Salle was not a member at that time.


i remember that great FEU dynasty led by anthony williams. his notable teammates were romanito roa and the amador guy, can't recall his first name.


...And a diminutive 5'5" Mike Gamboa-lookalike guard named Danny Manalastas (tree-trunk legs, and all....)

kryptonite
09-26-2008, 05:09 AM
UST also holds the distinction of being the only school ever that won the championship via a 14 game elimination-round sweep.

No other school will get to repeat the same achievement because a year after that, the UAAP amended the rules by rewarding a team that makes a 14-game sweep with only an automatic finals appearance, instead of an automatic championship.


I guess the FEU 3-peat team of early eighties ( Anthony Williams era ) did the same feat , only it was a 12 game sweep 'cause La Salle was not a member at that time.


i've read about this american boy, anthony williams, who became a motorcycle cop in the US, he led FEU to a sweep and the UAAP title in 1983, the game between FEU and UE, nagpatalo daw si Allan Caidic, missing two free throws with no time left.


As far as I can remember...
UAAP Champions
1988- ATENEO
1987- ATENEO
1986- UP
1985- UE
1984- UE
1983- FEU
1982- UE
1981- FEU
1980- FEU
1979- UST
1978- UST
1977- ADAMSON

A-boy97
09-27-2008, 07:16 PM
How many times has La Salle reached the finals in Senior's action?

Dark Knight
09-27-2008, 11:15 PM
the vaunted De La Salle juggernaut in the Finals

feel free to correct my post

2008 vs ADMU
2007 vs UE
2005 vs FEU
2004 vs FEU
2002 vs ADMU
2001 vs ADMU
2000 vs FEU
1999 vs UST
1998 vs FEU
1997 vs FEU
1996 vs UST
1995 vs UST
1994 vs UST
1991 vs FEU
1990
1988 vs ADMU ?

john_paul_manahan
09-27-2008, 11:23 PM
and i know that they have never missed a final 4 ever.

discount the fact that they got suspended in 2006.

bluebruiser90
09-27-2008, 11:37 PM
the vaunted De La Salle juggernaut in the Finals

feel free to correct my post

2008 vs ADMU
2007 vs UE
2005 vs FEU
2004 vs FEU
2002 vs ADMU
2001 vs ADMU
2000 vs FEU
1999 vs UST
1998 vs FEU
1997 vs FEU
1996 vs UST
1995 vs UST
1994 vs UST
1991 vs FEU
1990
1988 vs ADMU ?


1989 vs FEU - Their first UAAP MBB Title
1990 vs.UE

Emon74
09-29-2008, 08:35 AM
^ not sure about the year but NU had a couple of winless seasons. dlsu had winless seasons in 2004-2005.


I seem to remember NU back in the mid 80s talunan, parang LA clippers sa NBA, they had about an 80 game losing streak, palagi 0-14 in every UAAP seasons, but in 1987, they finally broke a long losing spell, beating no less than the defending champion UP! at the close of the eliminations.

Emon74
09-29-2008, 08:47 AM
the vaunted De La Salle juggernaut in the Finals

feel free to correct my post

2008 vs ADMU
2007 vs UE
2005 vs FEU
2004 vs FEU
2002 vs ADMU
2001 vs ADMU
2000 vs FEU
1999 vs UST
1998 vs FEU
1997 vs FEU
1996 vs UST
1995 vs UST
1994 vs UST
1991 vs FEU
1990
1988 vs ADMU ?


1989 was the year La Salle won its first UAAP title, beating the Abarrientos-Pablo led-FEU
1990, La Salle had a 14-0 sweep and should have won the title outright but their 3 victories were forfeited due to Noli Locsin's ineligibility, UE was the only team who "truly" beat La Salle, forcing a rubber match for the title, and to think that UE could claim the UAAP Crown in 2007 if the old rule was followed.

BigBlue
09-29-2008, 11:11 AM
when was the last time that the UAAP crowned a champ even before the NCAA?

mangtsito
09-29-2008, 04:29 PM
^ Good question. I think this year is the first one in a long time due to the NCAA's recent "Final 5" scenario. It's not likely that this will happen again in the next years.

myktristan
09-29-2008, 08:45 PM
^sir, what final 5 are you talking about?

A-boy97
09-29-2008, 10:14 PM
^Kindly read the events in the NCAA. I'm not exactly sure but I think at the end of the eliminations, parang #1 San Beda tapos quadruple tie for second or something like that. Following FIBA rules, ang daming playoff sa NCAA kaya tinawag na final 5 this season. And as things would have it, naunang matapos ang UAAP basketball compared to NCAA basketball.

If I'm not mistaken, this is one of the earliest finishes in the UAAP in years. Alam ko umaabot ng early October ang laro dati eh. Even with the La Salle suspension, umabot ata ng October.

Can anyone from La Salle confirm this since malimit naman kayo sa finals? ;D

ruel
09-30-2008, 01:19 AM
^Kindly read the events in the NCAA.* I'm not exactly sure but I think at the end of the eliminations, parang #1 San Beda tapos quadruple tie for second or something like that.* Following FIBA rules, ang daming playoff sa NCAA kaya tinawag na final 5 this season.* And as things would have it, naunang matapos ang UAAP basketball compared to NCAA basketball.

If I'm not mistaken, this is one of the earliest finishes in the UAAP in years.* Alam ko umaabot ng early October ang laro dati eh. Even with the La Salle suspension, umabot ata ng October.*

Can anyone from La Salle confirm this since malimit naman kayo sa finals? ;D

taga-saan ka brod?* ;D

mangtsito
09-30-2008, 09:27 AM
^^ Yup, quadruple tie for second, with SBC at the lone #1 spot. After the playoffs for the 2-3-4 positions, Mapua managed to extend the final 4 by winning game 1. AND JRU managed to win Game 2 of the finals.

Normally, the NCAA is ahead by at least 1 week.

The longest UAAP season I know of was that in 2001. It was the time when DLSU asked for a postponement of one of the finals games due to their flu outbreak, and the Ateneo asked for the same thing due to its final exams schedule overlapping with the re-scheduled game 3.

shyboy
09-30-2008, 10:35 AM
The UAAP basketball season ended earlier because the cheerdance competition was held after the double-round robin elims. Before, the cheerdance was held a week after the first round and then the second round commences a week thereafter. So there was roughly a two week break in between rounds. This year, one week lang ata ang break.

Mhel_Garrido
09-30-2008, 10:50 AM
Women's basketball first made its debut in 1950 but only had a 4 year run with FEU winning every title disputed.* It resurfaced again in 1976 and was a predominantly UST - UP affair with the two teams meeting in the finals for 10 straight years.* UP won 7 titles, a* three peat ('76, '77, '78) and four ward run ('80,'81,'82 and '83) while UST won in '79 before capping the rivalry with a back to back ('84 and '85). The Lady Falcons will make a brief appearance as champions in '86 before UST's four ward run of its own ('87-'90).* Juniors action started in 1979 and the 1994 sweep of all basketball titles by UST is the only one so far in UAAP history.

Prior to the 1994 sweep by UST, the only time I remember any other school having a shot at it was Ateneo in 1987 when all their teams made the finals.* The Peachy Cheng led Lady Eagles lost to UST that started the 4 title run for the Lady Goldies.


Just a comment, the 1987 Juniors team led by Billy del Rosario and Rico Santiago placed third that year and did not make it to the finals. FEU won that year with the tandem of Johnny Abarientos and Sixto Ivan Mondarte

blue scorpion
09-30-2008, 10:51 AM
I think maaga din nagsimula ang UAAP. Dati, sa 2nd week of July ang start. This year, sa 1st week of July nag start, kaya maaga natapos.

The_Big_Cat
09-30-2008, 10:55 AM
My uncle (sbc hs '56, dlsc '60) mentioned to me na mas nauuna matapos ang uaap dahil mas konti sila dati (daw).

Mhel_Garrido
09-30-2008, 11:15 AM
I guess the FEU 3-peat team of early eighties ( Anthony Williams era ) did the same feat , only it was a 12 game sweep 'cause La Salle was not a member at that time.



i've read about this american boy, anthony williams, who became a motorcycle cop in the US, he led FEU to a sweep and the UAAP title in 1983, the game between FEU and UE, nagpatalo daw si Allan Caidic, missing two free throws with no time left.



As far as I can remember...
UAAP Champions
1988- ATENEO
1987- ATENEO
1986- UP
1985- UE
1984- UE
1983- FEU
1982- UE
1981- FEU
1980- FEU
1979- UST
1978- UST
1977- ADAMSON




1988- ATENEO led by Jun Reyes, Danny Francisco & Eric Reyes beat DLSU - Dindo Pumaren, Joey Sta. Maria
1987- ATENEO led by Jun Reyes, JV Gayaoso & Nonoy Chuatico beat UE - Codinera
1986- UP -led by Magsanoc, Altamirano & Paras beat UE led by Jerry Codinera & Boysie Zamar
1985- UE led by Allan Caidic and JErry COdinera beat UST led by Jarencio, Chua & Palad again
1984- UE led by Allan Caidic and JErry COdinera beat UST led by Pido Jarencio, Bennet Palad & Alfrancis Chua
1983- FEU led by Glen Capacio and Harmon Codinera
1982- UE - Led by Allan Caidic vs. UP led by Ronnie Magsanoc and Eric Altamirano
1981- FEU led by anthony and williams SWEEP 12-0
1980- FEU led by Antony and Williams SWEEP 12-0
1979- FEU - Led by Anthony and WIlliams
1978- UE - led by Derrick Pumaren and Rudy Distrito vs Adamson
1977- ADAMSON - led by Hector Calma

take note, the 80 and 81 team of FEU were both sweeps so thats 24-0 and obviously they had a run before those sweeps enroute to the 79 title.. ang haba dominance noon

Mhel_Garrido
09-30-2008, 11:22 AM
Women's basketball first made its debut in 1950 but only had a 4 year run with FEU winning every title disputed.* It resurfaced again in 1976 and was a predominantly UST - UP affair with the two teams meeting in the finals for 10 straight years.* UP won 7 titles, a* three peat ('76, '77, '78) and four ward run ('80,'81,'82 and '83) while UST won in '79 before capping the rivalry with a back to back ('84 and '85). The Lady Falcons will make a brief appearance as champions in '86 before UST's four ward run of its own ('87-'90).* Juniors action started in 1979 and the 1994 sweep of all basketball titles by UST is the only one so far in UAAP history.

Prior to the 1994 sweep by UST, the only time I remember any other school having a shot at it was Ateneo in 1987 when all their teams made the finals.* The Peachy Cheng led Lady Eagles lost to UST that started the 4 title run for the Lady Goldies.


I dont think that the Juniors for the UAAP started in 1979 since Ateneo was the champion of the 1978 season

pio_valenz
09-30-2008, 04:06 PM
Women's basketball first made its debut in 1950 but only had a 4 year run with FEU winning every title disputed.* It resurfaced again in 1976 and was a predominantly UST - UP affair with the two teams meeting in the finals for 10 straight years.* UP won 7 titles, a* three peat ('76, '77, '78) and four ward run ('80,'81,'82 and '83) while UST won in '79 before capping the rivalry with a back to back ('84 and '85). The Lady Falcons will make a brief appearance as champions in '86 before UST's four ward run of its own ('87-'90).* Juniors action started in 1979 and the 1994 sweep of all basketball titles by UST is the only one so far in UAAP history.

Prior to the 1994 sweep by UST, the only time I remember any other school having a shot at it was Ateneo in 1987 when all their teams made the finals.* The Peachy Cheng led Lady Eagles lost to UST that started the 4 title run for the Lady Goldies.


Just a comment, the 1987 Juniors team led by Billy del Rosario and Rico Santiago placed third that year and did not make it to the finals. FEU won that year with the tandem of Johnny Abarientos and Sixto Ivan Mondarte

FEU beat the Adamson Baby Falcons led by Jorge Gallent.

Emon74
09-30-2008, 06:29 PM
1987- ATENEO led by Jun Reyes, JV Gayaoso & Nonoy Chuatico beat UE - Codinera

the blue eagles first UAAP title, they came back from a 63-83 deficit to defeat UE 94-92, nahirapan si jerry codinera to get past Ateneo's triple towers, danny francisco, alex araneta and eric reyes inside the shaded lane.

1989-La Salle's first UAAP title, eddie viaplana broke the hearts of the FEU tamaraws of johnny abarrientos and vic pablo with that booming triple that sealed the green archers victory. I think that was the last time the UAAP championship was held at the old rizal memorial coliseum, but in 1992 nun nag champion FEU (a forgetable UAAP finals) ginanap yun laban ng FEU at adamson sa loyola center.

The_Big_Cat
10-01-2008, 09:45 AM
1987- ATENEO led by Jun Reyes, JV Gayaoso & Nonoy Chuatico beat UE - Codinera

the blue eagles first UAAP title, they came back from a 63-83 deficit to defeat UE 94-92, nahirapan si jerry codinera to get past Ateneo's triple towers, danny francisco, alex araneta and eric reyes inside the shaded lane.

1989-La Salle's first UAAP title, eddie viaplana broke the hearts of the FEU tamaraws of johnny abarrientos and vic pablo with that booming triple that sealed the green archers victory. I think that was the last time the UAAP championship was held at the old rizal memorial coliseum, but in 1992 nun nag champion FEU (a forgetable UAAP finals) ginanap yun laban ng FEU at adamson sa loyola center.

Muntik na mapikon si Marlou Aquino (Adamson) sa mga FEU fans at planong sugurin sa stands. Buti na lang inawat ni Angelo David (FEU center) si Marlou. And David waved at the FEU fans not to jeer Marlou anymore. Malaki na ang lamang kasi ng FEU that point kaya siguro nag set-in ang frustrations ni Marlou.

bluebruiser90
10-01-2008, 04:19 PM
1987- ATENEO led by Jun Reyes, JV Gayaoso & Nonoy Chuatico beat UE - Codinera

the blue eagles first UAAP title, they came back from a 63-83 deficit to defeat UE 94-92, nahirapan si jerry codinera to get past Ateneo's triple towers, danny francisco, alex araneta and eric reyes inside the shaded lane.

1989-La Salle's first UAAP title, eddie viaplana broke the hearts of the FEU tamaraws of johnny abarrientos and vic pablo with that booming triple that sealed the green archers victory. I think that was the last time the UAAP championship was held at the old rizal memorial coliseum, but in 1992 nun nag champion FEU (a forgetable UAAP finals) ginanap yun laban ng FEU at adamson sa loyola center.


Danny missed this one. Had a collapsed lung the week leading to the finals. It was Alex Araneta who played a monster defensive game in matching up with the much heralded Jerry Codinera. Danny would have his place in the sun the next year as the frontline anchor of the back-to-back champions.

Emon74
10-01-2008, 05:17 PM
1982- UE - Led by Allan Caidic vs. UP led by Ronnie Magsanoc and Eric Altamirano


aint sure if magsanoc and altamirano were part of '82 UP seniors team, from what i've known, they had 7 rookies during that 44th season ng UAAP, led by Joey Mendoza, Ed Roque Jr and Duane Salvaterra, who was MVP of San beda red cubs in the NCAA Juniors a year before, mga ilan veterans ng UP maroons were vincent albino and raymond celis.

amdgc82
10-01-2008, 05:28 PM
^
Rookies of that 1982 UP squad were;
Randolf Avelino
Frederick Oliver Dandan
Rommel Mapa
Jose Jacinto Q. Mendoza III
Edgardo Roque Jr.
Duane Salvatera
Juan Luis Villanueva

Other Members of that team;
Vincent "Vince" Albino
Rafael Bernabe
Raymond "Mon" Celis
Manuel Garcia
Joel Victor Javier

Eric Altamirano (1983 Rookie of the year) and Ronald "Ronnie" Magsanoc were rookies in 1983.

pio_valenz
10-01-2008, 08:33 PM
^Considering that rookie-laden line-up and no player standing taller than 6'3", you can say this was probably Lipa's best coaching year.

The_Big_Cat
10-02-2008, 10:05 AM
^ I recall UP had this huge guy who used to back-up Benjie Paras. About 6'3", very solidly built but saw limited minutes. Somera (i think) was his name.

pio_valenz
10-02-2008, 10:17 AM
^Yup, Chris Somera a.k.a. Guy Smiley. Mga 6'2" nga lang ata yun, kaso malapad at solidly built. Paano ba naman, eh wrestler siya bago niya sinubukan mag basketball. Wasn't part of the '82 team, though.

That '82 UP team actually beat UE twice in the elims and were favored to win it all. But as Allan Caidic himself wrote in his autobiogrpahy, one UP official, against the wishes of Lipa, moved to make the championship series a winner-take-all, one-game affair instead of the traditional best-of-three. That was just the break UE needed, and they won 108-82 with Caidic burying 30 points.

Emon74
10-02-2008, 02:20 PM
glad that were all historians here, although ang naabutan ko was 1985 when UE beat UST sa championship in araneta coliseum, i've read that it was also back in '82 when pido jarencio scored 50 points in a UAAP game while playing for UST.

boyscout
10-02-2008, 03:08 PM
Women's basketball first made its debut in 1950 but only had a 4 year run with FEU winning every title disputed.* It resurfaced again in 1976 and was a predominantly UST - UP affair with the two teams meeting in the finals for 10 straight years.* UP won 7 titles, a* three peat ('76, '77, '78) and four ward run ('80,'81,'82 and '83) while UST won in '79 before capping the rivalry with a back to back ('84 and '85). The Lady Falcons will make a brief appearance as champions in '86 before UST's four ward run of its own ('87-'90).* Juniors action started in 1979 and the 1994 sweep of all basketball titles by UST is the only one so far in UAAP history.

Prior to the 1994 sweep by UST, the only time I remember any other school having a shot at it was Ateneo in 1987 when all their teams made the finals.* The Peachy Cheng led Lady Eagles lost to UST that started the 4 title run for the Lady Goldies.


Just a comment, the 1987 Juniors team led by Billy del Rosario and Rico Santiago placed third that year and did not make it to the finals. FEU won that year with the tandem of Johnny Abarientos and Sixto Ivan Mondarte

FEU beat the Adamson Baby Falcons led by Jorge Gallent.


I dont think Jorge Gallent studied in Adamson.

Jump_Shooter
10-02-2008, 04:19 PM
Renaming this thread UAAP History and Trivia. Let's keep the discussion going, guys. Lots of interesting tidbits already shared here.

bchoter
10-02-2008, 05:03 PM
^Yup, Chris Somera a.k.a. Guy Smiley. Mga 6'2" nga lang ata yun, kaso malapad at solidly built. Paano ba naman, eh wrestler siya bago niya sinubukan mag basketball. Wasn't part of the '82 team, though.

That '82 UP team actually beat UE twice in the elims and were favored to win it all. But as Allan Caidic himself wrote in his autobiogrpahy, one UP official, against the wishes of Lipa, moved to make the championship series a winner-take-all, one-game affair instead of the traditional best-of-three. That was just the break UE needed, and they won 108-82 with Caidic burying 30 points.
I, too, remember this guy. Especially the, uhm, chin :D. Nagabot ba sila ni Lino Ong?

MonL
10-02-2008, 05:06 PM
Women's basketball first made its debut in 1950 but only had a 4 year run with FEU winning every title disputed.* It resurfaced again in 1976 and was a predominantly UST - UP affair with the two teams meeting in the finals for 10 straight years.* UP won 7 titles, a* three peat ('76, '77, '78) and four ward run ('80,'81,'82 and '83) while UST won in '79 before capping the rivalry with a back to back ('84 and '85). The Lady Falcons will make a brief appearance as champions in '86 before UST's four ward run of its own ('87-'90).* Juniors action started in 1979 and the 1994 sweep of all basketball titles by UST is the only one so far in UAAP history.

Prior to the 1994 sweep by UST, the only time I remember any other school having a shot at it was Ateneo in 1987 when all their teams made the finals.* The Peachy Cheng led Lady Eagles lost to UST that started the 4 title run for the Lady Goldies.


Just a comment, the 1987 Juniors team led by Billy del Rosario and Rico Santiago placed third that year and did not make it to the finals. FEU won that year with the tandem of Johnny Abarientos and Sixto Ivan Mondarte

FEU beat the Adamson Baby Falcons led by Jorge Gallent.


I dont think Jorge Gallent studied in Adamson.


Gallent played for FEU.

Dark Knight
10-04-2008, 08:44 AM
Women's basketball first made its debut in 1950 but only had a 4 year run with FEU winning every title disputed.* It resurfaced again in 1976 and was a predominantly UST - UP affair with the two teams meeting in the finals for 10 straight years.* UP won 7 titles, a* three peat ('76, '77, '78) and four ward run ('80,'81,'82 and '83) while UST won in '79 before capping the rivalry with a back to back ('84 and '85). The Lady Falcons will make a brief appearance as champions in '86 before UST's four ward run of its own ('87-'90).* Juniors action started in 1979 and the 1994 sweep of all basketball titles by UST is the only one so far in UAAP history.

Prior to the 1994 sweep by UST, the only time I remember any other school having a shot at it was Ateneo in 1987 when all their teams made the finals.* The Peachy Cheng led Lady Eagles lost to UST that started the 4 title run for the Lady Goldies.


Just a comment, the 1987 Juniors team led by Billy del Rosario and Rico Santiago placed third that year and did not make it to the finals. FEU won that year with the tandem of Johnny Abarientos and Sixto Ivan Mondarte

FEU beat the Adamson Baby Falcons led by Jorge Gallent.


I dont think Jorge Gallent studied in Adamson.


I think what the poster meant was Jorge Gallent led the Baby Tams past the Baby Falcons.

The_Big_Cat
10-04-2008, 10:39 AM
^Yup, Chris Somera a.k.a. Guy Smiley. Mga 6'2" nga lang ata yun, kaso malapad at solidly built. Paano ba naman, eh wrestler siya bago niya sinubukan mag basketball. Wasn't part of the '82 team, though.

That '82 UP team actually beat UE twice in the elims and were favored to win it all. But as Allan Caidic himself wrote in his autobiogrpahy, one UP official, against the wishes of Lipa, moved to make the championship series a winner-take-all, one-game affair instead of the traditional best-of-three. That was just the break UE needed, and they won 108-82 with Caidic burying 30 points.
I, too, remember this guy. Especially the, uhm, chin :D. Nagabot ba sila ni Lino Ong?

bchoter, litaw na litaw yan si Somera sa round-robin warm-ups dahil ang laki ng katawan. Parang body-builder talaga.

ponce
10-04-2008, 11:35 AM
I also remember that the UE Red Warriors were called the UE Warriors during the time of Caidic and before that. When did they become Red Warriors?

rafi
10-04-2008, 07:22 PM
^Yup, Chris Somera a.k.a. Guy Smiley. Mga 6'2" nga lang ata yun, kaso malapad at solidly built. Paano ba naman, eh wrestler siya bago niya sinubukan mag basketball. Wasn't part of the '82 team, though.

That '82 UP team actually beat UE twice in the elims and were favored to win it all. But as Allan Caidic himself wrote in his autobiogrpahy, one UP official, against the wishes of Lipa, moved to make the championship series a winner-take-all, one-game affair instead of the traditional best-of-three. That was just the break UE needed, and they won 108-82 with Caidic burying 30 points.


I believe that UP official was Aparicio Mequi.I think he was the dean then. UP being the top team after the elims had a twice to beat advantage in the finals (there was no best of 3 then) over the second ranked team. He made it a one game affair and UP lost. There was even a grand party prepared at Vinzons Hall but it never pushed through. Needless to say, he became a very unpopular figure in UP just for that bonehead decision.

danny
10-05-2008, 02:26 AM
I also remember that the UE Red Warriors were called the UE Warriors during the time of Caidic and before that.* When did they become Red Warriors?*


Yes they were formerly known as the UE Warriors. The Red and White banner was also a new addition.

I also don't know when they adopted the Red and White.

Mhel_Garrido
10-05-2008, 08:31 AM
^
Rookies of that 1982 UP squad were;
Randolf Avelino
Frederick Oliver Dandan
Rommel Mapa
Jose Jacinto Q. Mendoza III
Edgardo Roque Jr.
Duane Salvatera
Juan Luis Villanueva

Other Members of that team;
Vincent "Vince" Albino
Rafael Bernabe
Raymond "Mon" Celis
Manuel Garcia
Joel Victor Javier

Eric Altamirano (1983 Rookie of the year) and Ronald "Ronnie" Magsanoc were rookies in 1983.


Thanks for pointing that out

boyscout
10-05-2008, 04:03 PM
Women's basketball first made its debut in 1950 but only had a 4 year run with FEU winning every title disputed.* It resurfaced again in 1976 and was a predominantly UST - UP affair with the two teams meeting in the finals for 10 straight years.* UP won 7 titles, a* three peat ('76, '77, '78) and four ward run ('80,'81,'82 and '83) while UST won in '79 before capping the rivalry with a back to back ('84 and '85). The Lady Falcons will make a brief appearance as champions in '86 before UST's four ward run of its own ('87-'90).* Juniors action started in 1979 and the 1994 sweep of all basketball titles by UST is the only one so far in UAAP history.

Prior to the 1994 sweep by UST, the only time I remember any other school having a shot at it was Ateneo in 1987 when all their teams made the finals.* The Peachy Cheng led Lady Eagles lost to UST that started the 4 title run for the Lady Goldies.


Just a comment, the 1987 Juniors team led by Billy del Rosario and Rico Santiago placed third that year and did not make it to the finals. FEU won that year with the tandem of Johnny Abarientos and Sixto Ivan Mondarte

FEU beat the Adamson Baby Falcons led by Jorge Gallent.


I dont think Jorge Gallent studied in Adamson.


Gallent played for FEU.


Gallent is a La Salle Alumnus (GS & HS) but ended up playing for FEU in College.

clej
10-05-2008, 06:14 PM
if my memory serves me right, the last closed door game in the history of UAAP was between UST-Ateneo. When was this nga pala? ang natatandaan ko lang, ust was leading in the original game tapos nagkaroon ng gulo involving rich alvarez nga ba that prompted the official to stop the game and replayed it closed door which ust lost.

tigerman
10-05-2008, 09:13 PM
^ That was in the 2nd round game of Ateneo-UST back in 1999 at the Cuneta Astrodome. UST's Jeff Valeriano and his best buddy, Ateneo's Rich Alvarez were the main protagonists in that game which led to the crowd of both sides throwing things on the court. The game was stopped and the board ordered the resumption of the game in a different venue (in Lyceum?).



USTE LO MEJOR!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS!

A-boy97
10-05-2008, 10:16 PM
^When I think about it now, the Alvarez-Valeriano trash talk/shoving match was kind of funny. Talon pa ng talon si Valeriano while shouting sweet nothings at Rich. Of course, during that time, galit na galit Ateneo and UST supporters prompting the close door game.

In hind sight, it would have been a "more interesting" battle if Valeriano and Wesley Gonzales were the main protagonist in the incident. ;D

bchoter
10-05-2008, 11:05 PM
I think that was the only closed-door game in the UAAP.

When was the worst brawl in the UAAP?

tigerman
10-05-2008, 11:17 PM
Any player who won the MVP trophy in both the junior and senior division aside from Rico V.?




USTE LO MEJOR!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS!

bchoter
10-05-2008, 11:31 PM
^ With the way UAAP schools are recruiting the best HS players from the NCAA we might never have a UAAP Juniors MVP who will go on to be the Seniors MVP :D

atenean_blooded
10-06-2008, 02:43 AM
Any player who won the MVP trophy in both the junior and senior division aside from Rico V.?




USTE LO MEJOR!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS!


I'm not sure, but Danny Francisco seems a likely candidate.

The_Big_Cat
10-06-2008, 10:01 AM
I also remember that the UE Red Warriors were called the UE Warriors during the time of Caidic and before that.* When did they become Red Warriors?*

I am not sure but I think the Red Warriors monicker started during the time of Ravena and Escobar. Then more prominently panhon nila Jumbo Cruz, Braulio Lim, Marcelino Morelos, Alvin Zuniga and Jojit Duremdes.

Jump_Shooter
10-06-2008, 08:18 PM
Renaming this thread UAAP History and Trivia.

stonecold316
10-06-2008, 09:49 PM
Trivia from UST side:

Coach Aric del Rosario was then a player (point guard) when UST won the UAAP basketball title title in 1964. When UST had a 29 year title drought, it was Coach Aric who guided them to their first trophy in 1993.

bluebruiser90
10-07-2008, 02:39 AM
Any player who won the MVP trophy in both the junior and senior division aside from Rico V.?




USTE LO MEJOR!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS!


I'm not sure, but Danny Francisco seems a likely candidate.


Jun Reyes. UAAP Juniors MVP '85 and UAAP Seniors MVP in '88.

clej
10-08-2008, 08:35 PM
i remember during our time isa lang ang general championship trophy na pinapasa pasa every year sa general champion. i also remember that it has a brass plate na naka engrave yung mga general champions and the year. my question is, kailan natigil yung ganitong practice at nasaan na ngayon yung original general championship trophy? ngayon kasi ang host school ang nagbibigay ng trophy.

Emon74
10-11-2008, 11:51 AM
di na ko gaano updated, are these former UAAP players still playing? the last infos I had was their teams in the PBL

Abraham Santos (UP) - played for blu detergent in '02
Edilberto Mangulabnan (Adamson) - same, played for Blu in '01-'02
Orly Torrente (FEU) - Red Bull in '98
Christian Nicdao (FEU) - Chowking in '98-'99
Mark Victoria (FEU) - Chowking in '98-'99

Liga Pilipinas
10-12-2008, 12:24 AM
di na ko gaano updated, are these former UAAP players still playing? the last infos I had was their teams in the PBL

Abraham Santos (UP) - played for blu detergent in '02
Edilberto Mangulabnan (Adamson) - same, played for Blu in '01-'02
Orly Torrente (FEU) - Red Bull in '98
Christian Nicdao (FEU) - Chowking in '98-'99
Mark Victoria (FEU) - Chowking in '98-'99

* * *Players Abraham Santos (Trace-Laguna Stallions) and Christian Nicdao (Smart-Pampanga Buddies) saw action in the recently concluded maiden conference of Liga Pilipinas from June 18 to September 18 of this year.

Emon74
10-17-2008, 05:08 PM
I did some research of these UAAP players in the 90s, the list are not entirely forgotten ones but probably where are they now

Jayson Gonzales - NU
Edwin Manabat - FEU
Chandler Donaldson - UST
Robin Mendoza - FEU
Melchor Latorena - UST
Jonathan Serrano - UP
Henry Ong - UST
Rommel David - UST
Maoi Roca - La Salle
Ronald Cuan - La Salle
Rafael Santos - UE
Gonzalo Catalan - UE
Ryan Pamintuan - Ateneo
Sison twins, Brandon and Brian of Ateneo
John Verayo - Ateneo
John Mesina - UP
Rodelio Manuel - UE
Jumbo Cruz - UE
Bobby Diloy - UE
Sandy Arespachochaga - Ateneo
Jojit Duremdes - UE
Aljun Garcia - La Salle
Gene Sauler - La Salle
Oliver Bunyi - La Salle
Paolo Isidro - Ateneo
Ryan Gamboa - Ateneo
Michael Oliver - FEU
Benito Victoria - UP
Paul Raymund Du - UP

Liga Pilipinas
10-18-2008, 01:38 AM
I did some research of these UAAP players in the 90s, the list are not entirely forgotten ones but probably where are they now

Jayson Gonzales - NU
Edwin Manabat - FEU
Chandler Donaldson - UST
Robin Mendoza - FEU
Melchor Latorena - UST
Jonathan Serrano - UP
Henry Ong - UST
Rommel David - UST
Maoi Roca - La Salle
Ronald Cuan - La Salle
Rafael Santos - UE
Gonzalo Catalan - UE
Ryan Pamintuan - Ateneo
Sison twins, Brandon and Brian of Ateneo
John Verayo - Ateneo
John Mesina - UP
Rodelio Manuel - UE
Jumbo Cruz - UE
Bobby Diloy - UE
Sandy Arespachochaga - Ateneo
Jojit Duremdes - UE
Aljun Garcia - La Salle
Gene Sauler - La Salle
Oliver Bunyi - La Salle
Paolo Isidro - Ateneo
Ryan Gamboa - Ateneo
Michael Oliver - FEU
Benito Victoria - UP
Paul Raymund Du - UP

* * *Rommel David played in the recent Liga Pilipinas First Conference for the Lipa-Batangas Barakos;

Mel Latoreno saw action for the runner-up Taguig Batang Global;

Oliver Bunyi was the head coach of the Quezon Red Oilers;

Bing Victoria was the lead assistant coach at Taguig.

john_paul_manahan
10-18-2008, 11:59 PM
Sandy Arespachochaga - Ateneo


Sandy is Coach Norman's 1st asst.

I remember that Maoi Roca was a former officemate of mine in Epixtar years ago.

Emon74
10-19-2008, 06:50 PM
Rommel David played in the recent Liga Pilipinas First Conference for the Lipa-Batangas Barakos;

Mel Latoreno saw action for the runner-up Taguig Batang Global;

Oliver Bunyi was the head coach of the Quezon Red Oilers;

Bing Victoria was the lead assistant coach at Taguig.

Thanks, its great to remember these UAAP cagers, marami pala sa kanila is still active in basketball.

Emon74
10-21-2008, 07:02 PM
Past UAAP Coaches

Joe Lipa - UP
Fritz Gaston - Ateneo
Mon Bernabe - UP
Chot Reyes - Ateneo
Derick Pumaren - La Salle
Turing Valenzona - FEU
Aric Del Rosario - UST
Roelh Nadurata - UE
Orly Bauzon - Adamson / UP
Rudy Soriano - UE
Alfredo Amador - FEU (led the tamarraws to the '92 championship)
Gabby Velasco - La Salle
Johnny Revilla - UE
Hector Hipolito - Adamson
Baby Dalupan - Ateneo
Francis Rodriguez - UE
Virgil Villavicienco - La Salle
Sonny Paguia - NU
Cris Calilan - Ateneo
Mart Molina - Ateneo
Eric Altamirano - UP
Ricky Palou - Ateneo
Jong Uichico - La Salle
Danny Gavieres - FEU
Perry Ronquillo - Ateneo
Nic Jorge - UP

pepman
10-21-2008, 08:01 PM
Rico Perez-NU
Ryan Gregrio-UP
Allan Gregorio-UP
Itoy Esguerra-UE
Boysie Zamar-UE
Joe Lipa-Ateneo also
Joel Banal-Ateneo
Lito Vergara-UP
Luigi Trillo- AdU
Mel Alas-AdU
Bogs Adornado-AdU
Jimmy Mariano-UE
Bert Flores-FEU
Bert Flores (older, not connected)-UE
Tony Vasquez-ADMU
Pitong de Castro-UE
Nel Parado-UST
Caloy Loyzaga-UST
Baby Dalupan-UE also

I'll research pa.


BTW, Mart Molina? Maybe Mark Molina---------the UAAP commentator who look like GAY.

bchoter
10-21-2008, 08:52 PM
Other coaches for UST:
Fely Fajardo
Eddie Pacheco
Charlie Badion
Eddie Reyes

pio_valenz
10-21-2008, 09:06 PM
Rey Madrid also coached UP.

RockLobster
10-21-2008, 09:19 PM
^And Nic Jorge, too. :)

For the not-so-forgotten players, Edrick Ferrer, who is still quite active in various metro and provincial leagues.

dioning
10-21-2008, 11:21 PM
Turing Valenzona - FEU
Pilo Pumaren - Lasalle
Joaqui Trillo - Lasalle

fujima04
10-21-2008, 11:43 PM
Moises Urbiztondo - AdU
Manny Dandan - NU
Ricky Dandan - AdMU (Not sure kung naging head coach nga ba siya or assistant lang).
Koy Banal - FEU
Allan Gregorio - UP

bchoter
10-22-2008, 12:48 AM
Pareng pio, I hope I won't preempt you with this question: Which head coach is the longest tenured head coach in the UAAP?

pio_valenz
10-22-2008, 11:35 AM
^Among current coaches? Franz Pumaren with 10 seasons. All-time? It would have to be the late Sonny Paguia who started coaching NU shortly after Moses came down from Mt. Sinai before stepping down in 1999. Hehe. Seriously, 1970s pa yata siya nag-umpisa sa NU.

fujima04
10-22-2008, 05:06 PM
^I remembered Sonny Paguia quoted in an interview saying that "as long as he's capable, he will be NU's coach."

If I am not mistaken, I believed the Paguias owned NU back then.

Emon74
11-23-2008, 07:47 AM
Trivia from UST side:

Coach Aric del Rosario was then a player (point guard) when UST won the UAAP basketball title title in 1964. When UST had a 29 year title drought, it was Coach Aric who guided them to their first trophy in 1993.


Here's one piece I got a year before in 1963, What happened sa protest ng UE, was UST denied of a UAAP Championship in 1963

Protest stalls UST Victory

October 20, 1963 Ė A protest by the University of the East denied University of Santo Tomasí claim to the UAAP cage title even after the glowing goldies had shaded the Red Warriors anew, 57-56, in the second game of their best of three series at the Rizal Memorial Coliseum.
The protest, which was filed by UE professor Jesus espiritu two days before the second match, questioned the eligibility of a UST player, Tomas Pacheco, who allegedly saw action for botica boie in the national senior basketball tourney last march.
Pacheco was fielded in by coach Fely Fajardo in the first game of the playoff when UST nipped UE, 67-64. If the protest was upheld, UST will forfeit its 67-64 win over UE and a playoff will then be held between the two teams to determined the champion.
USTís squeaker was fashioned out by Renato Reyes, who scored 19 points in the second half and joined hands with Howard Teck, Bibiano Martinez and Romeo Ramos to give UST a 57-52 bubble when the Warriors were closing in on the combined shooting of Jaime Mariano, Hector Bulaong and Norman de Vera. Bulaong scored from under with 55 ticks to go and then beat the buzzer with a layup for the final tally.

Growling.Fish
11-23-2008, 11:19 PM
^
March allegedly naglaro then protest was made in the championship. So UAAP-ish ;D

pepman
11-30-2008, 11:54 AM
Caloy Loyzaga mentored UST.

As for Baby Dalupan, he mentored Ateneo and UE.

bowtoBLUE
12-12-2008, 08:06 AM
did you know axl rose's first band was called the LA guns (bang bang)

Emon74
03-01-2009, 08:43 AM
This year marks 20 years since La Salle won its first UAAP title, beating FEU in the finale.

among those who stood out in the '89 UAAP Season

Mythical Five:

Jun Limpot - La Salle, named MVP of the tournament
Victor Pablo - FEU
Andy De Guzman - FEU
Jun Reyes - Ateneo
Verni Villarias - UE

Johnny Abarrientos - adjudged the year's top rookie

the league didnt hand out an award for coach of the year. the biggest disappointment of the season was Adamson University, the falcons were installed as darkhorse only to finished a dismal sixth. Adamson even forfeited its last game against NU to give the bulldogs their only win in the tournament.*

red_engr1987
03-04-2009, 02:44 PM
Greetings to All,

I am just wondering why there are two champions for mens basketball UAAP during the School Year 1967-68. I read it in UAAP History UE & UST are the champions?? how that it happened? can anyone share their story about it. thanks in advance, i hope someone will give us the story behind the championship shared by the two schools

bowtoBLUE
03-05-2009, 11:11 AM
i believe it was because both coaches would not let their starting line-up come out of the huddle and onto the court without first seeing the other team's starting line-up. since no one budged, the game was called a draw and the teams shared the championship.

amdgc82
03-05-2009, 08:17 PM
Greetings to All,

I am just wondering why there are two champions for mens basketball UAAP during the School Year 1967-68. I read it in UAAP History UE & UST are the champions?? how that it happened? can anyone share their story about it. thanks in advance, i hope someone will give us the story behind the championship shared by the two schools


Two Champions

THERE was a time when the final buzzer sounded too early.

In the UAAP 30th season in 1968, the UST-University of the East (UE) championship tiff was declared "no contest" as the coaches of both teams refused to field their starters for the second half. The "no contest" verdict later recognized both teams as co-champions.

At halftime of the final game of the best-of-three championship series (series tied at 1-1), UST head coach Rogelio Serafico and legendary mentor Virgilio "Baby" Dalupan of UE remained seated on their benches waiting for the other to name his line-up first.

Dalupan, the genius behind Crispaís glory days in the PBA, claimed he had already submitted his first five to UEís official scorer "who will just stand after Serafico had picked his men."

Serafico, whose first stringers were already in foul trouble after the first half, stressed that on previous occasions, it had always been UST giving way and this time, he was just waiting for Dalupan to reciprocate.

In that historic cage battle witnessed by 7,000 spectators in the old Rizal Memorial Coliseum, UST was leading by a comfortable 11-point lead, 51-40, at halftime.

UST then had in its roster the likes of William "Bogs" Adornado, Lawrence Mumar, and Cirilo Fabiosa, three Goldies who would later earn the distinction as icons of the hardcourt.

The "no-contest" cage verdict was declared by referee Antonio Esclabanan due to "unsportsmanlike" attitude the coaches showed despite repeated warnings to field their starting five.

A four-hour emergency meeting followed the nullification of the game where the UAAP board reprimanded both coaches and designed a rule to avoid a duplication of such event in the future.

It was the second time UST and UE were declared co-champions. The first time was in 1963.


Source: The Varsitarian 1968-1969, October 29, 1968 issue
(The Varsitarian is the official student publication of the University of Santo Tomas)

red_engr1987
03-06-2009, 04:23 PM
thanks a lot for the information its really a good research shared to us for the two champions, it was a big surprised for me that it happened not once but twice that UE & UST shared the championship in the UAAP. i hope you will share to us the story on the UAAP 1963 MBT FINALS the first time UE & UST declared as co-champions.

Am i right to assume that the gentleman who shared to us the story is from UST?
If in case your from UST... Let me cheer on your school VIVA STO TOMAS!!! Goodluck on your campaign in UAAP season 72

fujima04
03-06-2009, 05:48 PM
Judging by his handle, I believed amdgc82 is from ADMU.

I presumed his handle stands for Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam which means Everything is for Godís greater glory that is identified with the Jesuits and St. Ignatius of Loyola.

C82 maybe Class 82.

Nagdudunung-dunungan lang po.;D

P.S.

Nevertheless, thanks for the cheer.

Dark Knight
03-06-2009, 08:26 PM
Judging by his handle, I believed amdgc82 is from ADMU.

I presumed his handle stands for Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam which means Everything is for Godís greater glory that is identified with the Jesuits and St. Ignatius of Loyola.

C82 maybe Class 82.

Nagdudunung-dunungan lang po.;D

P.S.

Nevertheless, thanks for the cheer.


Hmmmph! Codebreaker. That you Mr. Nash? ;D

red_engr1987
03-06-2009, 08:51 PM
i think you got the code right dark knight!!!!

fujima04
03-06-2009, 09:47 PM
Judging by his handle, I believed amdgc82 is from ADMU.

I presumed his handle stands for Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam which means Everything is for Godís greater glory that is identified with the Jesuits and St. Ignatius of Loyola.

C82 maybe Class 82.

Nagdudunung-dunungan lang po.;D

P.S.

Nevertheless, thanks for the cheer.


Hmmmph! Codebreaker. That you Mr. Nash?* ;D


Pareng Dark Knight,

That's where you miserably failed to break the code. I'm no Mr. Nash!

In fact, I'm Mr. Hall.

Off topic man pero trivia pa rin. ;D

irateluvmachine
04-12-2009, 10:23 PM
thanks a lot for the information its really a good research shared to us for the two champions, it was a big surprised for me that it happened not once but twice that UE & UST shared the championship in the UAAP. i hope you will share to us the story on the UAAP 1963 MBT FINALS the first time UE & UST declared as co-champions.

Am i right to assume that the gentleman who shared to us the story is from UST?
If in case your from UST... Let me cheer on your school VIVA STO TOMAS!!! Goodluck* on your campaign in UAAP season 72


EDIT - nasa previous page pala ang story. yes, it was due to UST's use of an ineligible player, but i'm not quite remembering how they became co-champions...alam ko dapat irereschedule ang final matchup nila...

Joescoundrel
04-13-2009, 02:19 AM
How many and who were the most prominent players to have won both a UAAP and NCAA men's senior division basketball title?

amdgc82
04-14-2009, 08:54 PM
How many and who were the most prominent players to have won both a UAAP and NCAA men's senior division basketball title?


Felicisimo "Fely" R. Fajardo - member of 1938 NCAA Champion (Letran) and 1940 UAAP Champion (UST)
Francisco G. Nepomuceno - member of 1938 NCAA Champion (Letran) and 1946 UAAP Champion (UST)
Valentin "Tito" M. Eduque - member of 1946 UAAP Champion (UST) and 1947 NCAA Champion (La Salle)

The_Big_Cat
04-14-2009, 09:14 PM
Felicisimo "Fely" R. Fajardo - member of 1938 NCAA Champion (Letran) and 1940 UAAP Champion (UST)
Francisco G. Nepomuceno - member of 1938 NCAA Champion (Letran) and 1946 UAAP Champion (UST)
Valentin "Tito" M. Eduque - member of 1946 UAAP Champion (UST) and 1947 NCAA Champion (La Salle)



One year lang ang pagitan. Mukhang wala pang residency dati.
When was the residency regarding transferees implemented in the UAAP and NCAA?

A-boy97
04-15-2009, 10:40 AM
One year lang ang pagitan. Mukhang wala pang residency dati.
When was the residency regarding transferees implemented in the UAAP and NCAA?


Interesting question. If I'm not mistaken, Jayvee Gayoso played for la salle then transferred back to Ateneo without the need to serve residency. Siguro, around the 90's nagkaroon ng rule sa UAAP regarding residency.

bluebruiser90
04-16-2009, 12:13 AM
Jayvee played for La Salle in 1985 before the Archers were in the UAAP. He then transferred back to Ateneo in 1986 and redshirted that year. He would only don the Blue and White in the UAAP in 1987.

There's one recent player who did this NCAA-UAAP back-to-back championship trick. Just couldn't recall the player's name but he played for one of UST's FOURPEAT title teams in the 90's as a masteral student that just graduated and was a member of the previous year's Mapua Cardinals NCAA champion team. This was before the implementation of the current UAAP rules on transferring masteral students.

shyboy
04-16-2009, 10:48 AM
Felicisimo "Fely" R. Fajardo - member of 1938 NCAA Champion (Letran) and 1940 UAAP Champion (UST)
Francisco G. Nepomuceno - member of 1938 NCAA Champion (Letran) and 1946 UAAP Champion (UST)
Valentin "Tito" M. Eduque - member of 1946 UAAP Champion (UST) and 1947 NCAA Champion (La Salle)



One year lang ang pagitan. Mukhang wala pang residency dati.
When was the residency regarding transferees implemented in the UAAP and NCAA?

Interesting also, Nepomuceno won his championships eight years apart.

amdgc82
04-16-2009, 11:19 AM
Jayvee played for La Salle in 1985 before the Archers were in the UAAP.* He then transferred back to Ateneo in 1986 and redshirted that year.* He would only don the Blue and White in the UAAP in 1987.*

There's one recent player who did this NCAA-UAAP back-to-back championship trick.* Just couldn't recall the player's name but he played for one of UST's FOURPEAT title teams in the 90's as a masteral student that just graduated and was a member of the previous year's Mapua Cardinals NCAA champion team.* This was before the implementation of the current UAAP rules on transferring masteral students.


Rizaldy "Taddy" Ramos - member of 1990 & 1991 NCAA Champion (Mapua) and 1993 UAAP Champion (UST)

irateluvmachine
04-16-2009, 04:58 PM
Felicisimo "Fely" R. Fajardo - member of 1938 NCAA Champion (Letran) and 1940 UAAP Champion (UST)
Francisco G. Nepomuceno - member of 1938 NCAA Champion (Letran) and 1946 UAAP Champion (UST)
Valentin "Tito" M. Eduque - member of 1946 UAAP Champion (UST) and 1947 NCAA Champion (La Salle)



One year lang ang pagitan. Mukhang wala pang residency dati.
When was the residency regarding transferees implemented in the UAAP and NCAA?

Interesting also, Nepomuceno won his championships eight years apart.


one main reason - World War II. walang UAAP at NCAA nung WWII years. that's why it was common to have 30+ men playing in the collegiate leagues up to the early '50s - case in point, 1948 olympians francisco vestil and ding fulgencio (who definitely spent at least 6 years in college ball - see next paragraph), at malamang si nepomuceno din...

another peculiarity of pre-war/immediate post-war collegiate ball...even if you finished four years playing in the NCAA, you could start anew with apparently up to 4 years eligibility in the UAAP. fulgencio played for JRC from 1938 to 1941 (4 seasons), then played 2 or 3 more years in FEU after WWII.

Emon74
05-05-2009, 10:45 AM
I've come up with these on my notes, mga results ng laban ng arch rivals La Salle at Ateneo during the 90s, incomplete pa to:

1990
La Salle 64 Ateneo 57
La Salle 66 Ateneo 64
1991
La Salle 99 Ateneo 77
La Salle 79 Ateneo 75 *Richie Ticzon 37 pts for the Blue Eagles
1992
La Salle 70 Ateneo 64
La Salle 94 Ateneo 89 OT 77-all end of Regulation
1993
?
Ateneo 72 La Salle 66
1994
La Salle 81 Ateneo 66
Ateneo 73 La Salle 72
1995
??
1996
La Salle 77 Ateneo 69
?
1997
La Salle 68 Ateneo 66 OT 58-all end of regulation
?
1998
??
1999
Ateneo 60 La Salle 57
?

dating back to their NCAA days, the long, colorful history of Ateneo-La Salle up to the present, both schools and their Alumni may have known who won more games than the other.

clutchjedi
05-05-2009, 07:41 PM
^ 1996 second round was Ateneo 80 DLSU 55 (Ateneo with the 3-point-shooting barrage led by Sison & Verayo) :D

mapleleafs
05-07-2009, 01:21 AM
Women's basketball first made its debut in 1950 but only had a 4 year run with FEU winning every title disputed. It resurfaced again in 1976 and was a predominantly UST - UP affair with the two teams meeting in the finals for 10 straight years. UP won 7 titles, a three peat ('76, '77, '78) and four ward run ('80,'81,'82 and '83) while UST won in '79 before capping the rivalry with a back to back ('84 and '85). The Lady Falcons will make a brief appearance as champions in '86 before UST's four ward run of its own ('87-'90). Juniors action started in 1979 and the 1994 sweep of all basketball titles by UST is the only one so far in UAAP history.

Prior to the 1994 sweep by UST, the only time I remember any other school having a shot at it was Ateneo in 1987 when all their teams made the finals. The Peachy Cheng led Lady Eagles lost to UST that started the 4 title run for the Lady Goldies.


Just a comment, the 1987 Juniors team led by Billy del Rosario and Rico Santiago placed third that year and did not make it to the finals. FEU won that year with the tandem of Johnny Abarientos and Sixto Ivan Mondarte

FEU beat the Adamson Baby Falcons led by Jorge Gallent.


I dont think Jorge Gallent studied in Adamson.


Gallent played for FEU.


Gallent is a La Salle Alumnus (GS & HS) but ended up playing for FEU in College.


Been away from the UAAP for so long and can only relate to the History pages.

Jorge never played HS basketball. He was the "striker" of the 84 DLSZ football team. We were coached by Hans Smit. He shifted to basketball and ended up playing in the 89 FEU team where he lost out to HS classmate Gee Abanilla in the finals.

Of that batch, 3 players later donned the Green Archers uniform: Bong Rojas (pre UAAP), Monet Noguera (86) and of course Gee.

mangtsito
05-13-2009, 05:58 AM
There's this guy on the La Salle side we've always jokingly referred to as "Jake the Snake". He was always visible during football tournaments that La Salle participates in when I wasn't in college yet, but I think I was able to see glimpses of him in college tournaments. (I came from a non-UAAP/NCAA high school.) I think he's a coach, or something. And to a Pinoy's imagination, he does look like the wrestler.

What's his name? I hate to remember the guy forever as just "Jake the Snake". ;D

shyboy
05-13-2009, 10:04 AM
^ Football Coach Hans Smit.

Kid Cubao
05-13-2009, 12:07 PM
i must already be getting old because i seem to recall coach hans smit in his playing days. merong semi-pro football league sa pinas, and he was the goalkeeper for makita tools. wala kang maririnig sa bibig nya kundi "mga @#$%^&*+ 'nyo, magsiayos kayo!" from what i heard, he still has that way with words ;D

GHRanger
05-13-2009, 04:51 PM
Kid, Hans is not Hans pag walang ganyan.
I believe he coached LSGH, DLSZ and DLSU at different times.

atenean_blooded
05-15-2009, 02:26 AM
Paano kaya kung naging basketball coach si Coach Hans Smit, tapos nag-abot sila nina Joe Lipa at Aric del Rosario? Saya siguro kung nagkainitan ng ulo yung mga bench.

Kid Cubao
05-15-2009, 09:26 AM
pwede silang lumabas sa remake ng scarface, pinoy edition ;D

pio_valenz
05-18-2009, 04:36 PM
I think Coach Hans Smit's UAAP playing career as a member of the UP Men's Football Team and Joe Lipa's first coaching stint did overlap in the early 80s in UP. ibig sabihin, nung panahong iyon, halos araw-araw sa oval at sa gym, may mga murang naririnig. ;D

oca
06-19-2009, 11:25 PM
Alam ng mga kasalukuyang sumusubaybay sa UAAP ang maigting na labanan ng DLSU at FEU. Labanan na minsan ay umaabot rin sa board room. Pero alam ba ng madla na kung wala ang FEU ay wala ang DLSU sa UAAP?

Before DLSU was admitted in the UAAP, its application was denied on 2 or 3 occasions. Rules then required a unanimous vote for an applicant to be admitted. But DLSU just cant get that unanimous vote.

Then, one wise guy came up with something--- Do away with the unanimous vote.

How?

Amend the rules! Amending a rule would only require a majority vote. (Unanimous for admission, but majority to amend that unanimous requirement. Gets?)

So, paano naging tulay ang FEU sa pagpasok ng DLSU.

Para baguhin ang rule sa pagtanggap ng bagong miembro, kailangang may isang miembro na maghain ng panukala. Dito naging tulay ang FEU.

Bakit FEU?

Kilala niyo ba si Nicanor Reyes Sr? Si Jr.? Ang napangasawa ni Jr. ay isang Josephine Cojuangco, kapatid nilaTita Cory at Peping. Alam ng lahat na ang mga lalaking Cojuangco na kabilang sa generasyon nila Peping at Danding ay mga alumnus ng LaSalle. Kaya pinadaan sa isang Cojuangco ang paglapit sa FEU upang maihain ang nasabing panukala.

Take note, only one school had denied DLSU entry to the UAAP. Hence, a majority vote amending the "unanimous rule" was not difficult to get.

From there, as they say, the rest is history.

mangtsito
06-20-2009, 03:51 AM
Kailangan pa bang tanungin kung alin sa pito yung "one school" na iyon na kumontra sa pagpasok ng DLSU? ;D

pablohoney
06-20-2009, 11:30 AM
^ I could guess, but it's not what everybody thinks/assumes. ;)

mangtsito
06-21-2009, 05:17 AM
^Aba, kung ganoon, eh di kailangan ngang tanungin. ;)

aircanda
06-21-2009, 08:21 AM
^Aba, kung ganoon, eh di kailangan ngang tanungin. ;)


eh sino nga po ba sir oca? :)

oca
06-21-2009, 09:26 AM
^Aba, kung ganoon, eh di kailangan ngang tanungin. ;)


eh sino nga po ba sir oca? :)


Tanungin niyo si pablohoney. ;)

tamarawz_14
06-21-2009, 08:01 PM
Alam ng mga kasalukuyang sumusubaybay sa UAAP ang maigting na labanan ng DLSU at FEU. Labanan na minsan ay umaabot rin sa board room. Pero alam ba ng madla na kung wala ang FEU ay wala ang DLSU sa UAAP?

Before DLSU was admitted in the UAAP, its application was denied on 2 or 3 occasions. Rules then required a unanimous vote for an applicant to be admitted. But DLSU just cant get that unanimous vote.

Then, one wise guy came up with something--- Do away with the unanimous vote.

How?

Amend the rules! Amending a rule would only require a majority vote. (Unanimous for admission, but majority to amend that unanimous requirement. Gets?)

So, paano naging tulay ang FEU sa pagpasok ng DLSU.

Para baguhin ang rule sa pagtanggap ng bagong miembro, kailangang may isang miembro na maghain ng panukala. Dito naging tulay ang FEU.

Bakit FEU?

Kilala niyo ba si Nicanor Reyes Sr? Si Jr.? Ang napangasawa ni Jr. ay isang Josephine Cojuangco, kapatid nilaTita Cory at Peping. Alam ng lahat na ang mga lalaking Cojuangco na kabilang sa generasyon nila Peping at Danding ay mga alumnus ng LaSalle. Kaya pinadaan sa isang Cojuangco ang paglapit sa FEU upang maihain ang nasabing panukala.

Take note, only one school had denied DLSU entry to the UAAP. Hence, a majority vote amending the "unanimous rule" was not difficult to get.

From there, as they say, the rest is history.


ilan beses ba naglaban sa kampeonato ang FEU at DLSU halos lahat yata ng kanilang paghaharap eh laging may kontrobersya katulad ng boardroom, eligibility, officiating at batukan (hahaha).... ayon sa kwento ng mga nakakatanda sa akin minsan daw ay pumarada daw ang DLSU sa morayta nung nanalo sila na kampeonato at naging mini-riot daw ito...totoo ba ito???

aircanda
06-21-2009, 09:12 PM
^Aba, kung ganoon, eh di kailangan ngang tanungin. ;)


eh sino nga po ba sir oca? :)


Tanungin niyo si pablohoney. ;)


suspense.. :) i assume it would be their rivals.. :D

Bruticus
06-21-2009, 09:52 PM
Alam ng mga kasalukuyang sumusubaybay sa UAAP ang maigting na labanan ng DLSU at FEU. Labanan na minsan ay umaabot rin sa board room. Pero alam ba ng madla na kung wala ang FEU ay wala ang DLSU sa UAAP?

Before DLSU was admitted in the UAAP, its application was denied on 2 or 3 occasions. Rules then required a unanimous vote for an applicant to be admitted. But DLSU just cant get that unanimous vote.

Then, one wise guy came up with something--- Do away with the unanimous vote.

How?

Amend the rules! Amending a rule would only require a majority vote. (Unanimous for admission, but majority to amend that unanimous requirement. Gets?)

So, paano naging tulay ang FEU sa pagpasok ng DLSU.

Para baguhin ang rule sa pagtanggap ng bagong miembro, kailangang may isang miembro na maghain ng panukala. Dito naging tulay ang FEU.

Bakit FEU?

Kilala niyo ba si Nicanor Reyes Sr? Si Jr.? Ang napangasawa ni Jr. ay isang Josephine Cojuangco, kapatid nilaTita Cory at Peping. Alam ng lahat na ang mga lalaking Cojuangco na kabilang sa generasyon nila Peping at Danding ay mga alumnus ng LaSalle. Kaya pinadaan sa isang Cojuangco ang paglapit sa FEU upang maihain ang nasabing panukala.

Take note, only one school had denied DLSU entry to the UAAP. Hence, a majority vote amending the "unanimous rule" was not difficult to get.

From there, as they say, the rest is history.


ilan beses ba naglaban sa kampeonato ang FEU at DLSU halos lahat yata ng kanilang paghaharap eh laging may kontrobersya katulad ng boardroom, eligibility, officiating at batukan (hahaha).... ayon sa kwento ng mga nakakatanda sa akin minsan daw ay pumarada daw ang DLSU sa morayta nung nanalo sila na kampeonato at naging mini-riot daw ito...totoo ba ito???


Yep, the batuhan incident occured during the motorcade shortly after the 1989 finals.

oca
06-22-2009, 10:29 AM
^Aba, kung ganoon, eh di kailangan ngang tanungin. ;)


eh sino nga po ba sir oca? :)


Tanungin niyo si pablohoney. ;)


suspense.. :) i assume it would be their rivals.. :D


If you are referring to ADMU, you are wrong. :o

nash_bedista
06-22-2009, 11:58 AM
^^ UST sir oca? ;D

clutchjedi
06-22-2009, 02:40 PM
^^ just guessing as well - is it the dominican connection? :)

pablohoney
06-22-2009, 09:23 PM
Tama si oca. Basta hindi ADMU. ;D

oca
06-23-2009, 08:42 AM
Noon pa man, di ugali ng Board na magbigay ng detalye sa public sa naging takbo ng meeting nila.

It was never officially mentioned that it was UST who voted against the entry of DLSU into the UAAP. In fact it was never officially mentioned that DLSU was 1 vote short of being admitted. Basta ang sinabi ay hindi nakuha ng DLSU yung required "unanimous vote".

Pero alam niyo naman ugaling Pinoy, walang Omerta Code sa atin. Meron at merong magsasalita. Sa mga pahayagan they will be referred to as "ek-ek sources".

If you are a regular reader of the respected columnists of those times, or pangkaraniwan mong nakakahalubilo ang mga insiders sa UAAP or yung mga taga-opisina ng mga Board Reps, you will be able to get the more interesting details.

UST was the road block to that application. The reason is traced to DLSU's riotous final years at the NCAA, yung mga naganap sa pagitan nila nang Letran, na isang kapwang Dominikanong paaralan tulad ng UST.

LION
06-23-2009, 08:49 AM
post deleted.

pablohoney
06-23-2009, 01:23 PM
Kaintriga yung POST DELETED ni Sir Lion. ;D

amdgc82
07-04-2009, 02:59 PM
http://animo99test.blogspot.com/2008/10/uaap-admits-dlsu-when-torch-was-lit.html

UAAP admits DLSU: When the torch was lit
by Stephen Toring

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_WUrbgUT9XtI/SP18Exa-4XI/AAAAAAAAAA4/ODr14duL2AQ/s400/1998_July.jpg
Note: from the July 1998 issue of The LaSallian

"We're In!" The collegiate sports scene was jolted upon the announcement that De La Salle was to be the UAAP's 8th member. (Article from The LaSalian, June-July 1985). IMAGING BY: PEEJAY CANLAS

Perseverance: one of the most important attributes an athlete should possess. Like a persevering athlete, De La Salle never gave up and remained undaunted even in the face of trials and defeats.

Before the hostilities of the UAAP's 61st season begin, let us turn back the pages of De La Salle's sports history and take a glimpse at the colorful saga of its entry into the country's premiere inter-university sportsfest.

GENESIS
The La Salle-Ateneo rivalry was at its peak during the '70s when the two rival schools were still in the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA). However, when the Blue Eagles squad decided to move on and join the UAAP in 1977, De La Salle found a new rival in the persona of the Letran Knights. The Knights, equally competitive as the Archers, were then in a better position and had a better shot at the crown since the league had lost one of its powerhouse teams.

In 1980, tension was brimming in the air. Competing schools were hurling expletives at each other and the basketball court became more than just a venue for hoops but for sideline fisticuffs as well.

During that season, in a game between De La Salle and Letran, where the Archers had to win to keep their hopes alive for the first-round flag, all hell broke loose when Angelito Esguerra of Letran was thrown out because of a bad foul. Chairs flew as former Archers coach Derek Pumaren was hit by a Letran player.

In the sidelines, things were much worse. Letran's rowdy fans spilled onto the court and proceeded to tangle with some Lasallians seated in the box section behind the Letran bench. With 1:31 still remaining in the game, the Knights walked away from the court because of the turmoil. Fortunately, the NCAA officials persuaded the Knights to return to the hardcourt and finish the game. Despite the circumstances, the Archers posted a convincing 124-111.

But that was only the tip of the iceberg. Things went from bad to worse after both De La Salle and Letran advanced to the finals. The showdown between the Archers and the Knights became so intense that a full-scale rumble broke out.

"It became too violent, too rowdy. It was good that there was school involvement and the students were cheering for us, but when they started throwing things and bullying other kids, that was another story. It was no longer applicable to sports," said current De La Salle coach Franz Pumaren, a member of the last Green Archer team to play in the NCAA and the first batch of Archers to play in the UAAP.

After this unfortunate incident, three years after Ateneo left, De La Salle decided to withdraw from the NCAA.

THE DARK AGES
The following year, De La Salle applied for a slot in the UAAP but found the league's door tightly shut. Out of the seven schools, three schools voted against DLSU's entry: Adamson, Ateneo, and Santo Tomas. Their position was based on their fear that another rumble might erupt, especially with the expected revival of the Archers-Eagles rivalry.

So for years, La Salle sports was in limbo, wandering from one minor tournament and invitational meet to the next. Without the prestige and the level of competition that only top-caliber schools in the major leagues could provide, the once sharp athletes became rusty and dull, with morale dropping to an all-time low.

"To be honest, we were so disappointed. There wasn't much school support. The leagues we participated in where inter-clubs and national seniors. I guess these tournaments were not appealing, so there wasn't much support from the student sector," said Pumaren.

One major tournament that La Salle managed to join, though, was the Philippine Colleges and Universities Athletic Association (PICUAA), where it failed to bring home the crown. De La Salle entered the said league as a mere guest school; it was not guaranteed inclusion in the list of participating teams every season. Add to this, the school did not have the right to lodge protests about unfair acts against other PICUAA member schools.

Behind the scenes, though, events were in motion to bring De La Salle to the premiere collegiate league.

In 1983, the University sent another letter of application to Santo Tomas, who was then playing host. Somehow, the letter was misplaced and Santo Tomas immediately sent a letter of apology to patch things up. But Santo Tomas' apology came too lage, for the UAAP board had already passed the decision regarding which schools were in for the next season.

When La Salle applied again the following year, Bro. Andrew Gonzales invited the UAAP board members to a dinner to talk things over. The University's Board of Trustees made a move to increase its chances of being accepted in the league by saying that the school was willing to participate in all of the events, except basketbal.

This move proved to be more detrimental than beneficial to the school's cause, since it is stated in the UAAP Constitution that basketball is a compulsory sport: All schools should field a team in that sport. After all, basketball is the major crowd drawer, not to mention the main source of income of the league. With this, and the fact that even if De La Salle had fielded a team in basketball, Santo Tomas and Ateneo would still have voted against it, the University was again denied entry.

THE RENAISSANCE
In 1985, a development short of being miraculous occurred in the UAAP policy. Dr. Nicanor Reyes of Far Eastern, De La Salle's constant ally in its bid to enter the league, initiated the proposal that the league should do away with the unanimous vote in accepting new members. The policy had been in effect ever since the league was formed more than six decades ago. Since 1985, a mere majority or only two-thirds of the voters in favor of accepting the new member would be enough.

Aside from this, Reyes also noted how De La Salle's entry to the UAAP would be beneficial to the league. "He insisted that with our participation, the UAAP would become glamorous and more profitable," The LaSallian reported in its June-July 1985 issue.

1986, the year after, was marked by reconciliation and change of heart. A soon-to-be woman president advocated peace and reconciliation after ousting a dictator. The nation was rejoicing, for the hope of a brighter future was dawning.

De La Salle, too, had more than enough reason to rejoice during the year of the late dictator's ouster. For the green galleries of the Archers, this was the year that the doors of the UAAP finally swung open for De La Salle.

On July 19 of that memorable year, the green banners proudly paraded in the Rizal Coliseum and De La Salle officially became the eight member of the UAAP.

And, as they say, the rest is history.

Caption: "We're In!" The collegiate sports scene was jolted upon the announcement that De La Salle was to be the UAAP's 8th member. (Article from The LaSalian, June-July 1985)

danny
07-27-2009, 05:23 PM
Kailanan nag-Indian si Lapu-Lapu?

This year's UAAP season! UE has now openly embraced "Indian Playing" including the Indian Powwow.

From local Lapu-Lapu to North American Indian iconography.

For record purposes. History in the making.

mangtsito
07-30-2009, 03:47 AM
danny,

Abangan niyo yan. Next year, maglalabas sila ng bagong mascot. Si Lapu-Lapu na nakasakay sa ibabaw ng Leon. :D

stonecold316
07-30-2009, 03:57 PM
danny,

Abangan niyo yan. Next year, maglalabas sila ng bagong mascot. Si Lapu-Lapu na nakasakay sa ibabaw ng Leon. :D


Kaabang abang nga ito sir.
hahaha!

danny
08-03-2009, 11:04 PM
danny,

Abangan niyo yan. Next year, maglalabas sila ng bagong mascot. Si Lapu-Lapu na nakasakay sa ibabaw ng Leon. :D


Pre, because they are now North American Indians, I will not be surprised if they claim the majestic eagle as their own. The eagle is very important in Native American culture. ;)


They are testing the waters with regards Indian War Whooping.

danny
09-08-2009, 03:53 AM
Trivia question.

Why is the Junior Team of UE called Pages?

RockLobster
09-12-2009, 01:57 PM
Isn't a page a young warrior? Like a squire is an apprentice knight? :)

MonL
09-12-2009, 03:08 PM
Isn't a page a young warrior? Like a squire is an apprentice knight? :)



A page is a young boy who performs an assortment of odd jobs. Pages served in royal courts and also in the halls of congress. I believe a squire was also called a page.

John_Lennin
09-12-2009, 04:43 PM
The UE Red Pages monicker was retired a couple of years ago.
The UE high BT is known to date as The UE Junior Red Warriors.
The UE WBT is still known as The UE Red Amazons.

LION
09-13-2009, 02:35 AM
The UE Red Pages monicker was retired a couple of years ago.
The UE high BT is known to date as The UE Junior Red Warriors.
The UE WBT is still known as The UE Red Amazons.


The use of the Pages as mascot for its juniors basketball team is an indication that, historically, UE has never associated itself with the north american indians.

danny
09-13-2009, 02:55 AM
Why are they starting their Indian Playing in both their chanting and imagery?

Why not develop the local Lapu-Lapu warrior image?

LION
09-13-2009, 03:23 AM
^Ayaw ng present generation of UE students si lapu-lapu as mascot. :o

danny
09-13-2009, 03:27 AM
^Ayaw ng present generation of UE students si lapu-lapu as mascot. :o


They could have developed this and made LUALHATI really proud. I understand that their school hymn is Pilipino, a departure from the rest of the schools. LUALHATI is how they affectionately call the school.

The local warrior should be developed. This is their roots.

However, I think the current re-branding is ultimately business-driven rather than tradtion. I could be wrong. I wonder...

JonarSabilano
09-13-2009, 09:09 AM
Isn't a page a young warrior? Like a squire is an apprentice knight? :)



A page is a young boy who performs an assortment of odd jobs. Pages served in royal courts and also in the halls of congress. I believe a squire was also called a page.


Being a page is the first step towards knighthood. After which, a page becomes a squire and starts assisting a knight in preparing for battle. After passing a battery of tests meant to measure his fighting skill and valor, he takes a bath, spends a night praying in church, then on the following day, the knight he has served will strike his shoulders with the flat side of his sword and "Dub him Sir Knight".

LION
09-13-2009, 10:57 AM
^Sir Knight Lapu-lapu. :)

John_Lennin
09-13-2009, 01:47 PM
after all ranting. . .
...
Propaganda, Egocentric, Hatred, and Rage are what I think when I'm reading some of the forumers here.
...
The monicker is obviously a Indian inspired, the logo is also obviously drawn to the concept of indian head.
...
The institution's monicker/logo has gone to constant change due to the UE's change of leadership.
And UE is vulnerable to that for it suffered some hardship with its survival as an academic institution.
...
If you'll repute me on this and prove it. Then kindly read my posts to the cheers and beats. I'm not a troll, I'm not a product of any institution in the Phil. I'm a student in Arizona State and my father is the alumnus of UE.
...
School Spirit can be deadly sometimes.
...
just my 2 cents...

atenean_blooded
09-13-2009, 01:53 PM
after all ranting. . .
...
Propaganda, Egocentric, Hatred, and Rage are what I think when I'm reading some of the forumers here.
...
The monicker is obviously a Indian inspired, the logo is also obviously drawn to the concept of indian head.
...
The institution's monicker/logo has gone to constant change due to the UE's change of leadership.
And UE is vulnerable to that for it suffered some hardship with its survival as an academic institution.
...
If you'll repute me on this and prove it. Then kindly read my posts to the cheers and beats. I'm not a troll, I'm not a product of any institution in the Phil. I'm a student in Arizona State and my father is the alumnus of UE.
...
School Spirit can be deadly sometimes.
...
just my 2 cents...


Let's have proof.

BigBlue
09-13-2009, 02:21 PM
The monicker is obviously a Indian inspired, the logo is also obviously drawn to the concept of indian head.


care to substantiate this? how in the world does Warrior equate to Indian? Also, perhaps you can classify what sort of Indian you are referring to? South Asian? American? West Indian?

to me, the logo looks Native Filipino to me. The Lapu-lapu definition posted by the Bedans in this forum to me is spot-on, and is grounded as well on how UE has rendered their school "mascot" in past years, during cheerdance competitions, UAAP opening ceremonies, etc. What gets many of us here wondering is why the sudden shift from Native Filipino to Native American? And all this come at the heels of the reemergence of San Beda as a force in collegiate basketball.

John_Lennin
09-13-2009, 03:36 PM
After all the ranting. . .
...
its still pouring on.
...
Patience my fellow adversaries, for I'm geographically unable to search personally.
...
For the logo, please search in the net these team and kindly compare the logo of UE in the 70's to 80's before UE has gone to so much problems with its leadership and finances.
...
the lapu-lapu or the filipino version of the team's monicker/logo was used during the 90's when UE was under the leadership of the late P. O. Domingo. To honor our Filipino anscestor.
...
Here take a time to look to these team:
1. Schenectady Mohawks
2. Muskegon Blackhawks (1987-97 logo)
3. Washington Redskins (1937 and 1960 logos)
4. Texarkanas logo
5. Six Nation Rebs
6. Williamsburg Warriors
7. Richmond Savages
8. Boston Redskins (1932-36 logo)
9. Colo Colo logo
10. Lacrosse Warriors
11. FSU Seminoles
12. Whitley Warriors
etc, can't remember other teams.
...
Warrior, Redskin, Chief, Tribe, Mohawk, and individual indian nation like Seminole, Pontiac, Blackhawk, etc. are all Indian Monickers. Here in the U.S. its rampantly used but never in my life I seen a Redlion of Europe as a Indian monicker.
...
you may be you have a cheer that is Indian inspired but its not enough to make your institution known as a Redlion to be a Indian.
...
kindly look and analize the resemblance of UE's old logo and the team logos mentioned above.
...
again patience, for I'm here in Arizona State, and I will tried to take a search of a UE logo in the circa 70's from my father's old documents.

mangtsito
09-13-2009, 03:52 PM
^ My father is from UE and he studied in the 70s.

When I brought up the question of what type of warrior exactly does the "UE Warrior" symbolize, he just said "basta warrior". When I asked him whether it is possible that this warrior might be American Indian, his answer was an emphatic "eh ano naman ang kinalaman ng UE sa Indian? San beda yun."

I'm willing to bet that my father is more authoritative that anything you can find in Arizona State. If your father is still alive, why not ask him?

JonarSabilano
09-14-2009, 12:11 AM
^Sir Knight Lapu-lapu. :)


'Di talaga, e.

atenean_blooded
09-14-2009, 01:01 AM
After all the ranting. . .
...
its still pouring on.

And after all of your posts, you still have not presented anything concrete.



...
Patience my fellow adversaries, for I'm geographically unable to search personally.

How convenient.



...
For the logo, please search in the net these team and kindly compare the logo of UE in the 70's to 80's before UE has gone to so much problems with its leadership and finances.
...

Let's have it. The extant images available online are the current version, or the blue and gold school seal.



the lapu-lapu or the filipino version of the team's monicker/logo was used during the 90's when UE was under the leadership of the late P. O. Domingo. To honor our Filipino anscestor.
...

Proof?



Here take a time to look to these team:
1. Schenectady Mohawks
2. Muskegon Blackhawks (1987-97 logo)
3. Washington Redskins (1937 and 1960 logos)
4. Texarkanas logo
5. Six Nation Rebs
6. Williamsburg Warriors
7. Richmond Savages
8. Boston Redskins (1932-36 logo)
9. Colo Colo logo
10. Lacrosse Warriors
11. FSU Seminoles
12. Whitley Warriors
etc, can't remember other teams.
...

None of their logos have any resonance whatsoever with the current UE logos or visual identity.



Warrior, Redskin, Chief, Tribe, Mohawk, and individual indian nation like Seminole, Pontiac, Blackhawk, etc. are all Indian Monickers. Here in the U.S. its rampantly used but never in my life I seen a Redlion of Europe as a Indian monicker.
...

For the simple reason that the Lion and Indian are distinct, and even as far as I understand Bedan lore, distinct also.



you may be you have a cheer that is Indian inspired but its not enough to make your institution known as a Redlion to be a Indian.

San Beda, at least, has been using the Indian stuff for longer than UE seems to have had a viable varsity program.

UE appears to have less of a claim, unless you can prove otherwise.


...
kindly look and analize the resemblance of UE's old logo and the team logos mentioned above.
...
again patience, for I'm here in Arizona State, and I will tried to take a search of a UE logo in the circa 70's from my father's old documents.


We will wait.

BigBlue
09-14-2009, 01:07 AM
After all the ranting. . .
...
its still pouring on.
...
Patience my fellow adversaries, for I'm geographically unable to search personally.
...
For the logo, please search in the net these team and kindly compare the logo of UE in the 70's to 80's before UE has gone to so much problems with its leadership and finances.
...
the lapu-lapu or the filipino version of the team's monicker/logo was used during the 90's when UE was under the leadership of the late P. O. Domingo. To honor our Filipino anscestor.
...
Here take a time to look to these team:
1. Schenectady Mohawks
2. Muskegon Blackhawks (1987-97 logo)
3. Washington Redskins (1937 and 1960 logos)
4. Texarkanas logo
5. Six Nation Rebs
6. Williamsburg Warriors
7. Richmond Savages
8. Boston Redskins (1932-36 logo)
9. Colo Colo logo
10. Lacrosse Warriors
11. FSU Seminoles
12. Whitley Warriors
etc, can't remember other teams.
...
Warrior, Redskin, Chief, Tribe, Mohawk, and individual indian nation like Seminole, Pontiac, Blackhawk, etc. are all Indian Monickers. Here in the U.S. its rampantly used but never in my life I seen a Redlion of Europe as a Indian monicker.
...
you may be you have a cheer that is Indian inspired but its not enough to make your institution known as a Redlion to be a Indian.
...
kindly look and analize the resemblance of UE's old logo and the team logos mentioned above.
...
again patience, for I'm here in Arizona State, and I will tried to take a search of a UE logo in the circa 70's from my father's old documents.


ang dami mong sinabi, ni wala kang sinagot sa tanong ko.

again, when and why did the transition from Native Filipino to Indian happen? Also, how the heck did Warrior equate to American Indian?

After all the ranting. . .
...
STILL NO SUBSTANCE

JonarSabilano
09-15-2009, 07:00 PM
The UE Red Pages monicker was retired a couple of years ago.
The UE high BT is known to date as The UE Junior Red Warriors.
The UE WBT is still known as The UE Red Amazons.


A "page" is a young man embarking on the first step toward knighthood. There is no such concept in Native American culture.

An "Amazon" is a member of a tribe of female warriors from Greek mythology, so-called because of their habit of removing one breast so that it would not get in the way of drawing a bowstring. This, too, has no equivalent in Native American culture.

And yet there are people from your quarter who insist that your "Warriors" are inspired by Native American braves, despite all evidence that point to the contrary.

Grow up!

mangtsito
09-15-2009, 11:00 PM
Question: The NU logo looks like it has a woman operating some sort of old-fashioned sewing machine. What does she stand for?

FANTARD ALERT!!!
09-16-2009, 06:56 PM
After all the ranting. . .
...
its still pouring on.

And after all of your posts, you still have not presented anything concrete.



...
Patience my fellow adversaries, for I'm geographically unable to search personally.

How convenient.



...
For the logo, please search in the net these team and kindly compare the logo of UE in the 70's to 80's before UE has gone to so much problems with its leadership and finances.
...

Let's have it. The extant images available online are the current version, or the blue and gold school seal.



the lapu-lapu or the filipino version of the team's monicker/logo was used during the 90's when UE was under the leadership of the late P. O. Domingo. To honor our Filipino anscestor.
...

Proof?



Here take a time to look to these team:
1. Schenectady Mohawks
2. Muskegon Blackhawks (1987-97 logo)
3. Washington Redskins (1937 and 1960 logos)
4. Texarkanas logo
5. Six Nation Rebs
6. Williamsburg Warriors
7. Richmond Savages
8. Boston Redskins (1932-36 logo)
9. Colo Colo logo
10. Lacrosse Warriors
11. FSU Seminoles
12. Whitley Warriors
etc, can't remember other teams.
...

None of their logos have any resonance whatsoever with the current UE logos or visual identity.



Warrior, Redskin, Chief, Tribe, Mohawk, and individual indian nation like Seminole, Pontiac, Blackhawk, etc. are all Indian Monickers. Here in the U.S. its rampantly used but never in my life I seen a Redlion of Europe as a Indian monicker.
...

For the simple reason that the Lion and Indian are distinct, and even as far as I understand Bedan lore, distinct also.



you may be you have a cheer that is Indian inspired but its not enough to make your institution known as a Redlion to be a Indian.

San Beda, at least, has been using the Indian stuff for longer than UE seems to have had a viable varsity program.

UE appears to have less of a claim, unless you can prove otherwise.


...
kindly look and analize the resemblance of UE's old logo and the team logos mentioned above.
...
again patience, for I'm here in Arizona State, and I will tried to take a search of a UE logo in the circa 70's from my father's old documents.


We will wait.


Then?

atenean_blooded
09-16-2009, 09:07 PM
Then?


Are you trying to communicate with me?

danny
09-17-2009, 05:18 AM
^^^

The Red Tribe is here? Seems like it.

danny
09-17-2009, 05:37 AM
The UE Red Pages monicker was retired a couple of years ago.
The UE high BT is known to date as The UE Junior Red Warriors.
The UE WBT is still known as The UE Red Amazons.


A "page" is a young man embarking on the first step toward knighthood. There is no such concept in Native American culture.

An "Amazon" is a member of a tribe of female warriors from Greek mythology, so-called because of their habit of removing one breast so that it would not get in the way of drawing a bowstring. This, too, has no equivalent in Native American culture.

And yet there are people from your quarter who insist that your "Warriors" are inspired by Native American braves, despite all evidence that point to the contrary.

Grow up!



It's the Red Tribe and their misinformed cabal of historically handicapped pawns who are determined to create this illusion of Indianness.

Many of us may have older UE friends and probably relatives who can attest that the Warrior has never been Native American Indian. Not even any semblance of any Indian War Whooping.

The Red Tribe is in search of their identity because there's no consistent tradition to cling on, I think. Still evolving...

BedanRoar
09-17-2009, 11:06 AM
Many changes were done by UE from their established school name up to the monikers. Could it be that the young generation be in a confused state? ???

FANTARD ALERT!!!
09-17-2009, 02:48 PM
Then?


Are you trying to communicate with me?




^^^

The Red Tribe is here? Seems like it.


Not really. Just wanting more. Red tribe my backside. I hate all of you O' Reds! I am from the Dark Side!

Jump_Shooter
09-17-2009, 04:12 PM
FANTARD ALERT please tone down your language. Consider this your first warning. If you're just going to pick a fight here then I suggest you leave.

FANTARD ALERT!!!
09-17-2009, 11:43 PM
FANTARD ALERT please tone down your language. Consider this your first warning. If you're just going to pick a fight here then I suggest you leave.


Okay

danny
09-18-2009, 04:17 AM
Many changes were done by UE from their established school name up to the monikers. Could it be that the young generation be in a confused state? ???



Confused and delusional. Unforunately, in their confusion, they thought we got it all wrong. Tsk tsk.

Nay friends from UE! You just need to ignore the misguided "leadership" of this young and clueless groupie called the Red Tribe who brought this confused state to you. Go back to your roots and build anew.

Emon74
10-14-2009, 09:16 PM
http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/9839/scan0044w.jpg

1987 UAAP Finals, Ateneo vs UE, This was 22 years ago.

Emon74
10-14-2009, 09:18 PM
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/9608/scan0045i.jpg

The Time Clock at the Rizal Memorial reads SEIKO

RockLobster
10-16-2009, 12:51 AM
http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/9839/scan0044w.jpg

1987 UAAP Finals, Ateneo vs UE, This was 22 years ago.


Is that JV Gayoso (#12) and Eric Reyes (#10)?

bluebruiser90
10-16-2009, 08:59 AM
^Yup tha's them. The UE Warior in the middle is Jerry Codinera.

maroonmartian
01-26-2010, 05:54 PM
Heard this from NBN Sports (Channel 4): No Ateneo or De la Salle cagers have won the PBA MVP plum so far. Could anyone confirm this?

shyboy
01-26-2010, 07:55 PM
Heard this from NBN Sports (Channel 4): No Ateneo or De la Salle cagers have won the PBA MVP plum so far. Could anyone confirm this?

Yes, that is correct. All UAAP schools except DLSU and ADMU have ex-varsity players who went on to become PBA MVPs.

Bogs Adornado (UST) - 1975, 1976, 1981
Robert Jaworski (UE) - 1978
Benjie Paras (UP) - 1989, 1999
Allan Caidic (UE) - 1990
Johnny Abbarientos (FEU) - 1996
Kenneth Duremdes (Adamson) - 1998
Danny Ildefonso (NU) - 2000, 2001
James Yap (UE) - 2006

Mhel_Garrido
04-29-2010, 08:42 AM
Di ba na sweep ang Eagles in their early years in the UAAP?

Ateneo was 6-6 in 1978, and 0 -12 in 1979 huhuhu..if there is any consolation,
the eaglets were 78 and 79 champions

maroonmartian
04-29-2010, 12:36 PM
0-12 in 1979 yet the UAAP champions? How did that happen? Please enlighten me.

kerouac82
04-29-2010, 02:53 PM
0-12 in 1979 yet the UAAP champions? How did that happen? Please enlighten me.


Kaunting basa pa. 0-12 ang seniors. Pero champion ang juniors.

maroonmartian
04-30-2010, 01:06 PM
Ah OK, sorry naman. Pero yes, normal na for schools who are beginning in a new league to lose. As for the Blue Eaglets, I think Adamson High pa lang ata ang malakas.

Well, to start a new topic I want to ask these questions:

*Who are the tallest and shortest player player to play in the UAAP.

*Greatest lead of a team.

*Largest lead that a team overcome to win the game.

Mel
04-30-2010, 02:32 PM
Tallest EJ Feihl na siguro ...

maroonmartian
04-30-2010, 05:20 PM
I have to confirm this but way back in the 1970s, the UE Red Warriors had a 7'3 player by the name of Durillo or Drillo? But he never made an impact in the UAAP as he is always not used.

As for smallest si Gamboa ata is 5'5 or 5'4. I think baka may mas maliit pa. Pero I am sure the smallest player to win the UAAP MVP award is Johnny Abarrientos at 5'7?

The_Big_Cat
05-01-2010, 10:09 AM
I have to confirm this but way back in the 1970s, the UE Red Warriors had a 7'3 player by the name of Durillo or Drillo? But he never made an impact in the UAAP as he is always not used.

As for smallest si Gamboa ata is 5'5 or 5'4. I think baka may mas maliit pa. Pero I am sure the smallest player to win the UAAP MVP award is Johnny Abarrientos at 5'7?


He played for the Warriors in the mid-90s.

MonL
05-02-2010, 03:59 AM
I have to confirm this but way back in the 1970s, the UE Red Warriors had a 7'3 player by the name of Durillo or Drillo? But he never made an impact in the UAAP as he is always not used.

As for smallest si Gamboa ata is 5'5 or 5'4. I think baka may mas maliit pa. Pero I am sure the smallest player to win the UAAP MVP award is Johnny Abarrientos at 5'7?


He played for the Warriors in the mid-90s.


His name was Raul Dillo, and he was 7'2". He appeared in the 90s as a journeyman who spent time at UE and then tried out but failed to impress at San Beda and, CMIIAW, never played collegiate ball . Slow and very raw big man who never realized his potential.

The_Big_Cat
05-04-2010, 10:47 AM
I have to confirm this but way back in the 1970s, the UE Red Warriors had a 7'3 player by the name of Durillo or Drillo? But he never made an impact in the UAAP as he is always not used.

As for smallest si Gamboa ata is 5'5 or 5'4. I think baka may mas maliit pa. Pero I am sure the smallest player to win the UAAP MVP award is Johnny Abarrientos at 5'7?


He played for the Warriors in the mid-90s.


His name was Raul Dillo, and he was 7'2". He appeared in the 90s as a journeyman who spent time at UE and then tried out but failed to impress at San Beda and, CMIIAW, never played collegiate ball . Slow and very raw big man who never realized his potential.


Naalala ko pa Mon that there was even an article on him featured in The Bedan. They even had his photo published in that issue as well. There were two UE Warriors who tried out first with SBC that time but failed to meet the coach's grade. They were Raul Dillo and Jumbo Cruz.

MonL
05-04-2010, 11:32 AM
I have to confirm this but way back in the 1970s, the UE Red Warriors had a 7'3 player by the name of Durillo or Drillo? But he never made an impact in the UAAP as he is always not used.

As for smallest si Gamboa ata is 5'5 or 5'4. I think baka may mas maliit pa. Pero I am sure the smallest player to win the UAAP MVP award is Johnny Abarrientos at 5'7?


He played for the Warriors in the mid-90s.


His name was Raul Dillo, and he was 7'2". He appeared in the 90s as a journeyman who spent time at UE and then tried out but failed to impress at San Beda and, CMIIAW, never played collegiate ball . Slow and very raw big man who never realized his potential.


Naalala ko pa Mon that there was even an article on him featured in The Bedan. They even had his photo published in that issue as well. There were two UE Warriors who tried out first with SBC that time but failed to meet the coach's grade. They were Raul Dillo and Jumbo Cruz.


How can he make the grade when his teammates in scrimmages have gone from end-to-end twice while he was still striding from end-to-midcourt? :D

maroonmartian
05-04-2010, 11:25 PM
^ Sad to hear the story of the tallest player in the UAAP, the 7'2 Raul Dillo. If the Philippines had such a better big man coach :-[

As for the shortest guys? My candidate as of now is Michael Gamboa of UP (he will not play his last year) at 5'5 but I expect some guys to be shorter especially during the early years of the league? Any candidates? Pero shortest MVP is Johnny Abarientos right? And tallest MVP is Rabeh Al-Hussaini at 6'7?

Largest lead is the 40 points registered by UE vs UP in 2007, 99-59?

pio_valenz
05-10-2010, 01:30 AM
^Not even the best big man coach in the history of basketball could have done anything about Dillo. He just didn't have the right coordination and physical attributes to play. All height and nothing else.

Re: biggest margin, NU routinely lost by 30 or 40 points back in the 80s. UP once beat NU by 42 points several years ago, but I'm fairly sure there were other more lopsided games in the 73-year history of the UAAP.

amdgc82
05-10-2010, 06:58 AM
I think the smallest player who have played in the UAAP is Virgilio "Billy" Abarrientos of the UE Warriors (mid 1960s) at five feet four inches.

maroonmartian
05-21-2010, 04:12 PM
I think the smallest player who have played in the UAAP is Virgilio "Billy" Abarrientos of the UE Warriors (mid 1960s) at five feet four inches.


Siya ba ang ama ni Johnny A, the smallest MVP, in the UAAP? O magkamag-anak lang. Pero bakit kaya hindi sa UE naglaro kundi sa kapitbahay lang.

pepman
06-01-2010, 01:51 PM
I think the smallest player who have played in the UAAP is Virgilio "Billy" Abarrientos of the UE Warriors (mid 1960s) at five feet four inches.


Siya ba ang ama ni Johnny A, the smallest MVP, in the UAAP? O magkamag-anak lang. Pero bakit kaya hindi sa UE naglaro kundi sa kapitbahay lang.


AFAIK distant relative lang

Mhel_Garrido
06-02-2010, 10:19 PM
^ Sad to hear the story of the tallest player in the UAAP, the 7'2 Raul Dillo. If the Philippines had such a better big man coach :-[

As for the shortest guys? My candidate as of now is Michael Gamboa of UP (he will not play his last year) at 5'5 but I expect some guys to be shorter especially during the early years of the league? Any candidates? Pero shortest MVP is Johnny Abarientos right? And tallest MVP is Rabeh Al-Hussaini at 6'7?

Largest lead is the 40 points registered by UE vs UP in 2007, 99-59?


Another candidate for the shortest player is Elias Burden of FEU who played in 1990. He was the lead guard and his back up was..Johnny A....Tallest should be Dillo....biggest lead??? See NU games in the 80s...you were considered a wimp if you beat them by ONLY 40 points back then. Biggest lead that was overcome by a team...try 1987 Ateneo team which trailed by 20 points with 10 mins to go, but I guess there are other similar games like this

atenean_blooded
06-03-2010, 04:08 AM
40 points?

Sheesh. One should see the winning margins of the Blue Eaglets then. You can also add the DLSZ teams as of late, and some of the USTHS and maybe even AdU HS teams in the early 2000s.

maroonmartian
06-03-2010, 06:27 AM
^ Yup, the scores in high school and womens' game are ridiculious. But is the 40-point loss by UP against the worst for a COLLEGIATE team? Oh I hope I forgot that year.

bluebruiser90
06-05-2010, 02:23 AM
^ Sad to hear the story of the tallest player in the UAAP, the 7'2 Raul Dillo. If the Philippines had such a better big man coach :-[

As for the shortest guys? My candidate as of now is Michael Gamboa of UP (he will not play his last year) at 5'5 but I expect some guys to be shorter especially during the early years of the league? Any candidates? Pero shortest MVP is Johnny Abarientos right? And tallest MVP is Rabeh Al-Hussaini at 6'7?

Largest lead is the 40 points registered by UE vs UP in 2007, 99-59?


Another candidate for the shortest player is Elias Burden of FEU who played in 1990. He was the lead guard and his back up was..Johnny A....Tallest should be Dillo....biggest lead??? See NU games in the 80s...you were considered a wimp if you beat them by ONLY 40 points back then. Biggest lead that was overcome by a team...try 1987 Ateneo team which trailed by 20 points with 10 mins to go, but I guess there are other similar games like this







Burden was only 5'3". The UAAP's version of Mugsy Bogues. Burden may have been short but he was built like a boxer.

eustacia
08-19-2010, 10:18 AM
Heard this from NBN Sports (Channel 4): No Ateneo or De la Salle cagers have won the PBA MVP plum so far. Could anyone confirm this?

Yes, that is correct. All UAAP schools except DLSU and ADMU have ex-varsity players who went on to become PBA MVPs.

Bogs Adornado (UST) - 1975, 1976, 1981
Robert Jaworski (UE) - 1978
Benjie Paras (UP) - 1989, 1999
Allan Caidic (UE) - 1990
Johnny Abbarientos (FEU) - 1996
Kenneth Duremdes (Adamson) - 1998
Danny Ildefonso (NU) - 2000, 2001
James Yap (UE) - 2006


Sayang, almost na si L.A. Tenorio this year.

Was Mac Cardona ever close to becoming MVP?

pepman
08-28-2010, 02:29 AM
Heard this from NBN Sports (Channel 4): No Ateneo or De la Salle cagers have won the PBA MVP plum so far. Could anyone confirm this?

Yes, that is correct. All UAAP schools except DLSU and ADMU have ex-varsity players who went on to become PBA MVPs.

Bogs Adornado (UST) - 1975, 1976, 1981
Robert Jaworski (UE) - 1978
Benjie Paras (UP) - 1989, 1999
Allan Caidic (UE) - 1990
Johnny Abbarientos (FEU) - 1996
Kenneth Duremdes (Adamson) - 1998
Danny Ildefonso (NU) - 2000, 2001
James Yap (UE) - 2006, 2010


Sayang, almost na si L.A. Tenorio this year.

Was Mac Cardona ever close to becoming MVP?


Last year, Cardona did, AFAIK third place yata.

amdgc82
12-23-2010, 02:13 PM
Trivia on PFF President Mariano "Nonong" V. Araneta Jr.

http://steelconnect.blogspot.com/2010/12/my-soccer-story-part-2-my-local-sports.html


After high school, he stayed the first two college years at UP Iloilo for his Civil Engineering course and instantly became the schoolís star player, both in soccer and basketball. Then he moved to Diliman, and together with his equally talented elder brother, Tony, spearheaded UPís emergence as a major and champion team in the UAAP. Tony would also later on become a mainstay of the national soccer team, named Mr. Footbal of the Philippines, and played in Germanyís Division II League. From 1975 to early 80ís, Nonong would play with the national team and at many times being its team captain. He would also play in the Philippines major league teams like U-tex, and Air Force. He likewise also played at the same time varsity basketball in the UAAP, at one time, having been named a member of the UAAP mythical Team. When the PBA was first organized in 1975, his UP coach (I think it was Fely Fajardo) who was the coach of the Mariwasa team, offered him a shoo-in slot to play for the professional basketball league. He was already practicing with Mariwasa (and enjoying the perks, he would tell me) when he decided to concentrate to soccer and leave basketball. It was a decision Iím sure he did not regret to this day. He was also one of the very few at UP who would be very active in varsity and national sports and graduate in Engineering. In the mid 80ís he retired from active football but still got himself involved in the sport, by acting as the national teamís head coach and later on as officer of the PFF. One other trivia unknown to many but which he himself personally revealed to me was the fact that he was a member of coach Joe Lipaís UP coaching staff (as trainer and at times coach when Lipa was not around) when UP Diliman for the longest time won the championship of the UAAP in 1986 behind Benjie Paras, Ronnie Magsanoc, and Eric Altamirano.

maroonmartian
06-22-2011, 09:26 PM
^ Is there other well known players like him who cross sports. All I can remember is Ambrosio Padilla of Ateneo and UP (where he take up Law) who played also baseball. He lead the Philippines in the 5th place finish in the 1936 Olympics. He later became a Senator.

dougrich
04-20-2013, 12:37 AM
I played baseball against Jerry and Harmon Codinera. Boy used to coach Adamson

dougrich
04-20-2013, 12:39 AM
I could have sworn that Burden was only 5'2