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oca
10-02-2008, 07:42 AM
Nabanggit sa S84 Audience Thread, San Beda as host for S85 may schedule weekend games. Palagay ko that deserves a topic of its own and the discussions may include other things relevant to S85.

oca
10-02-2008, 07:44 AM
Non-televised weekend games for S85?

Okay yan!

So, most likely you'll do away with the Monday games since it is not televised to begin with. Now, will it be a Sat or Sun playday? Better Sat para rest day kinabukasan.

Sabay man ito sa televised weekend games ng UAAP, I still believe that in terms of crowd attendance, it will be much better than* the non-televised Monday schedule.

Kung sakali man, magkakaproblema siguro ito ng kaunti sa press coverage since you would have the print media cover two events in different venues on the same day. Pero yung mga genio rin naman ang nagsabi na mas sikat ang UAAP, so pakialam ng host/ San Beda kung talunan pa rin sa media coverage.

Importante, you give the NCAA community - studentry and alumni - the chance to see the games without using up classroom time and the very precious vacation leave credits. Mababawasan na rin yung mga nagsasakit-sakitan at nagtatakip ng mukha pag natututukan ng tv cameras. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Panigurado, di yan susuportahan ng ABS-CBN.

Pero, alam ko ang kakulitan nitong mga Bedista at takbo ng utak ng mga iyan, at dahil sila nga ang host, kulitan at tagisan na yan ng pangangatwiran. Mahirap sila talunin dyan...* ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

MonL
10-02-2008, 08:07 AM
Non-televised weekend games for S85?


Panigurado, di yan susuportahan ng ABS-CBN.

Pero, alam ko ang kakulitan nitong mga Bedista at takbo ng utak ng mga iyan, at dahil sila nga ang host, kulitan at tagisan na yan ng pangangatwiran. Mahirap sila talunin dyan...* ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D




NCAA= No Coverage At All* *:P ::) :P

Basta may weekend games, it doesnt matter.

oca
10-02-2008, 08:28 AM
..at pag sinabing, "Sige, televised na rin lahat ng Monday games.", tanggihan niyo!

Igiit niyo na magkaroon ng weekend games.

As host, you have the full discretion on that. Pag may contrary opinion sa Board-- labas ang ManCom sa usaping ito-- ipaliwanag niyo na walang mawawala sa liga kung alisin ang Monday games at gawing weekend.

Yung magsabi na meron, ihayag niyo nga dito!

The_Big_Cat
10-02-2008, 10:14 AM
1. A third televised playing date.

2. 6th Man of the Year Award.

3. In the US NCAA. They have the Wooden Award and the Naismith Award for the Best Player.
How about we re-name the MVP award to let say: "Carlos Loyzaga Trophy". To honor probably the best
Filipino Basketball player of all-time and he happened to play in the NCAA.

4. The US NCAA also has a Bob Cousy Award for the best guard of the year.
How about we have one, let say: "Lauro Mumar Trophy" or "Freddie Webb Award". Mumar and Webb are
probably the best guards the Philippine basketball have produced. Both played were Olympians and played
in the NCAA.

razor
10-02-2008, 10:24 AM
An All-academic Team award (similar to the US NCAA) to reward the bonafide student athletes.* ;)

Bring back the elimination round games to the Arena - a safer, cleaner and comfortable venue.

A professional MANCOM.

LION
10-02-2008, 10:27 AM
1. For every school to have unique cheers and identity. No copying of cheers.

2. An objective and marketing savvy Mancom. *

3. Clean games.

4. Fair officiating.

5. Better tv coverage and scheduling of games.

toti_mendiola
10-02-2008, 10:43 AM
At higit sa lahat tutal tayo naman ang host. Mag labas tayo ng season tickets!

munkybear
10-02-2008, 10:45 AM
galing mo toti! yun ang suggestion nabasa ko. ;D

abcdef
10-02-2008, 10:48 AM
Payag ako diyan sa season tickets na yan!

The_Big_Cat
10-02-2008, 10:51 AM
Approve Emilio Aguinaldo College and Arellano University's application to the NCAA!!

MonL
10-02-2008, 11:02 AM
1. For every school to have unique cheers and identity. No copying of cheers.

2. An objective and marketing savvy Mancom. *

3. Clean games.

4. Fair officiating.

5. Better tv coverage and scheduling of games.


1) And no bastardization or jeering, either. It's time the institutions look beyond the games to establish or build up their image.

2) For that to happen, replace the narrowminded PE instructors/devious scheming snakes currently sitting with suitable/learned representatives.

3) The players respond to the coach depending on his philosophy. The coach is accountable to the institution that appointed him.

4) Chino Trinidad, are you listening?

5) Sumablay ang MIT dito last year. It couldnt get any worse.

toti_mendiola
10-02-2008, 11:08 AM
Can we also keep the current NCAA commish for next season?

mighty_lion
10-02-2008, 11:19 AM
From what I know ito yong mga kasama sa initial plan

1. Expansion. 3 new schools joining the league for a total of 10 (minus PCU). SBC is supportive of this move pero maraming kumokontra from other schools.

2. Weekend games. Kung paaaksayahan mo ng oras eh interpretation ng rules at patches sa uniform hindi mo talaga maiisip kung paano mangyayari to.

3. Televised SBC-Letran games na magkasunod ang Juniors and Seniors. Sa weekend.

4. Televised key season games ng Juniors. Even UAAP supporters will follow this to see it for themselves who will be the next big thing in college basketball.

mighty_lion
10-02-2008, 11:21 AM
Maganda nga rito if we can summarize our ideas here and give it to our NCAA mancom representative Mari Lacson.

cub
10-02-2008, 12:29 PM
don't hire the NABRO or PBL referees. they s***.

nicksy
10-02-2008, 02:22 PM
don't hire the NABRO or PBL referees. they s***.

in Fairness, PBL Refs has done vastly better Job Compared to NABRO, and more Professional.

-Keep The Commissioner Joe Lipa for next Year.

-I Very Much Like the Idea of Season Tickets, PBA yata Wala nun eh, Edi NCAA and Magsimula ng Trend.

-Better Venues, the Arena is Much Better (sorry UPSHDS).

-Release the Rule Book to the Public.

-improve publicity, enhance more the commercials (parang sirang plaka kasi yun S84, nakakasawa)

-better Distribution Of Tickets, and coordinate with the venue( specially Araneta).

-Expansion!!! preferably 1-2 Schools (who is in accordance with the NCAA culture.

-BETTER MANCOM COMMITTEE and STAFF.

-better Dicipline of the Crowd.

unintentionally
10-02-2008, 03:17 PM
better venue!pleaseeeeee

The_Big_Cat
10-02-2008, 04:09 PM
don't hire the NABRO or PBL referees. they s***.

The PBL referees did a fantastic job.

BedanRoar
10-02-2008, 04:25 PM
don't hire the NABRO or PBL referees. they s***.

The PBL referees did a fantastic job.


Lalu na sa 2nd game of the Finals.

oblater
10-04-2008, 09:50 AM
New Anti-tirador rule:
if a flagrant foul results in injury,
the offending player cannot be fielded back (into the game or tournament)
until the injured player has recovered.
Justice.* ;D

Get_Blazed
10-04-2008, 02:37 PM
Approve Emilio Aguinaldo College and Arellano University's application to the NCAA!!


Ok ako dito!

Get_Blazed
10-04-2008, 02:40 PM
don't hire the NABRO or PBL referees. they s***.


Still would rather have PBL refs than NABRO's any day.

You cant please everyone. ::)

ESCALERA JR.
10-04-2008, 04:43 PM
better venue!pleaseeeeee


By better venue is relative, depende na rin yan sa host school.

The Arena was considered a better venue for then host JRU since malapit sa kanila but definitely not for UPHDS.

RMC and Ninoy is the better choice among the schools located in the West of Manila, but not for JRU and again for UPHDS.

The Cuneta was Letran and Mapua's choicel kasi konting biyahe lang ng Roas Blvd. andon na kami.

My suggestion is why not adopt the home and away games kahit sa elimination rounds muna.

Its more practical and cost effective.* Watching the televised games and seeing so many vacant seats can be an eyesore... masakit sa mata makita na ilan-ilan lang ang nanood ng live games...medyo linalangaw naman ung ibang games naten.

As the games near the final phase in the 2nd round and the F4, dun na lang gumamit ng bigger venue like the Araneta or ULTRA.

By playing in their respective gyms, the host school can treat every visiting teams to their campus using their "hospitality".
Libre pakain sa mga visiting teams players and their coaching staff and the news team covering the games.

This can then be reciprocated when the visiting team becomes host in the next round.

What do you think guys...? Next years host, take the cue!

The_Big_Cat
10-04-2008, 05:02 PM
better venue!pleaseeeeee


By better venue is relative, depende na rin yan sa host school.

The Arena was considered a better venue for then host JRU since malapit sa kanila but definitely not for UPHDS.

RMC and Ninoy is the better choice among the schools located in the West of Manila, but not for JRU and again for UPHDS.

The Cuneta was Letran and Mapua's choicel kasi konting biyahe lang ng Roas Blvd. andon na kami.

My suggestion is why not adopt the home and away games kahit sa elimination rounds muna.

Its more practical and cost effective.* Watching the televised games and seeing so many vacant seats is an eysore... masakit sa mata makita na ilan-ilan lang ang nanood ng live games...medyo linalangaw naman ung ibang games naten.

As the games near the final phase in the 2nd round and the F4, dun na lang tayo gumamit ng bigger venue like the Araneta or ULTRA.

By playing in their respective gyms, the host school can treat every visiting teams to their campus using their "hospitality".
Libre pakain sa mga visiting teams players and coaching staff and yhe news team covering the games.

This can then be reciprocated when the visiting team becomes host in the next round.

What do you think guys...? Next years host, take the cue!

One thing we have also to consider of holding "home and away" games is the logistics and costs since it is televised.
Definitely magastos yan for the broadcast partner which is ABS-CBN. And to do that the NCAA and ABS-CBN may re-structure its existing contract.

Don't get me wrong, I really love this idea for the longest time.

Get_Blazed
10-04-2008, 05:14 PM
better venue!pleaseeeeee


By better venue is relative, depende na rin yan sa host school.

The Arena was considered a better venue for then host JRU since malapit sa kanila but definitely not for UPHDS.

RMC and Ninoy is the better choice among the schools located in the West of Manila, but not for JRU and again for UPHDS.

The Cuneta was Letran and Mapua's choicel kasi konting biyahe lang ng Roas Blvd. andon na kami.

My suggestion is why not adopt the home and away games kahit sa elimination rounds muna.

Its more practical and cost effective. Watching the televised games and seeing so many vacant seats is an eysore... masakit sa mata makita na ilan-ilan lang ang nanood ng live games...medyo linalangaw naman ung ibang games naten.

As the games near the final phase in the 2nd round and the F4, dun na lang tayo gumamit ng bigger venue like the Araneta or ULTRA.

By playing in their respective gyms, the host school can treat every visiting teams to their campus using their "hospitality".
Libre pakain sa mga visiting teams players and coaching staff and yhe news team covering the games.

This can then be reciprocated when the visiting team becomes host in the next round.

What do you think guys...? Next years host, take the cue!

One thing we have also to consider of holding "home and away" games is the logistics and costs since it is televised.
Definitely magastos yan for the broadcast partner which is ABS-CBN. And to do that the NCAA and ABS-CBN may re-structure its existing contract.

Don't get me wrong, I really love this idea for the longest time.


Very noble idea sana, pero tama si TBC.

Isa pa, kung walang ticket sales, walang kita. Kahit hindi puno ang venues imposibleng walang profit diba? Sana sa Ninoy nalang para convenient samin (para naman dumami dami kami nanonood)! ;)

ESCALERA JR.
10-04-2008, 05:36 PM
Which of the 2 would be more cost effective....paying rental fee (say an ave. between 35k-50K)for the use of Cuneta/Arena RMC or holding it in a campus gym?

Instead of paying this amount which i thnk is money down the drain dahil kaunti lang naman ang nanonod, why not spend it to accomodate the visiting teams and crews to their respective homegrounds. *In that way, mabibigyan pa ng idea ung mga manonood ng live as well as the televiewers of the hosting team sa kanilang mga facilities via campus tours.

Hoologanism and rumbles during games won't be a problem ieither, if you ask me.

The Security for the visiting teams will *be the sole responsibility of the hosting team and would fall entirely on how the school adminstration handle their students. *Kung may kumawala, madaling ng ma-pinpoint at mahuli ang lalabag. This is where school officials can practice their authority over their student population.

Its time to innovate in the coming years. Kung hindi man sa next season, i hope in the near future.

Get_Blazed
10-04-2008, 05:52 PM
Which of the 2 would be more cost effective....paying rental fee (say an ave. between 35k-50K)for the use of Cuneta/Arena RMC or holding it in a campus gym?

Instead of paying this amount which i thnk is money down the drain dahil kaunti lang naman ang nanonod, why not spend it to accomodate the visiting teams and crews to their respective homegrounds. In that way, mabibigyan pa ng idea ung mga manonood ng live as well as the televiewers of the hosting team sa kanilang mga facilities via campus tours.

Hoologanism and rumbles during games won't be a problem ieither, if you ask me.

The Security for the visiting teams will be the sole responsibility of the hosting team and would fall entirely on how the school adminstration handle their students. Kung may kumawala, madaling ng ma-pinpoint at mahuli ang lalabag. This is where school officials can practice their authority over their student population.

Its time to innovate in the coming years. Kung hindi man sa next season, i hope in the near future.


It would be a gamble. Besides, hindi lahat tayo may magagandang sports facilities. Like sa amin sa Benilde, wala kaming malaking court. Covered court lang namin yung gym na hindi nakakaaccomodate ng malaking crowd.

ilovedhay
10-04-2008, 08:09 PM
Let's have an home and away format. CSB home court will be at Rizal Memorial Colliseum. Mapua Cardinal since they had a campus in Makati they can use Makati Coliseum. JRU will play at San Juan Arena mas malapit sa kanila. Perpetual must find a better location with Las Pinas or Alabang area. SSC-R, SBC and Letran will use they own gymnasium instead kaya naman nila mag-accomodate around 3000 - 5000 crowd. Then kung Rivalry Game like San Beda - Letran, JRU - SSC, Mapua - Letran and last year finalist SBC - JRU will held at Cuneta Astrodome or Araneta.

gelaibabydoll
10-04-2008, 09:29 PM
Let's have an home and away format. CSB home court will be at Rizal Memorial Colliseum. Mapua Cardinal since they had a campus in Makati they can use Makati Coliseum. JRU will play at San Juan Arena mas malapit sa kanila. Perpetual must find a better location with Las Pinas or Alabang area. SSC-R, SBC and Letran will use they own gymnasium instead kaya naman nila mag-accomodate around 3000 - 5000 crowd. Then kung Rivalry Game like San Beda - Letran, JRU - SSC, Mapua - Letran and last year finalist SBC - JRU will held at Cuneta Astrodome or Araneta.


The Olivarez Gym in Parañaque is the nearest venue siguro... unless sa San Beda Alabang sila magpunta which is probably not a good idea specially if it's an SBC - UPHSD game ;D

danny
10-05-2008, 02:38 AM
An All-academic Team award (similar to the US NCAA) to reward the bonafide student athletes.* ;)

Bring back the elimination round games to the Arena - a safer, cleaner and comfortable venue.

A professional MANCOM.



Time to talk to Mari Lacson. How about a third party audit of student athletes. Classroom attendance, grades and all those stuff.

danny
10-05-2008, 02:44 AM
Online publication of the NCAA Rule Book. Mapua promised to do this during the season but failed to deliver. We tried to force the issue by bombarding them with letters but failed. What the!

Since we are the host, let's publish the rulebook several months prior to the opening. Transparency is key. Kung may pumalag, lalabas at lalabas sa media.

This is not a hard thing. An online pdf file will do.

ESCALERA JR.
10-05-2008, 08:55 AM
Let's have an home and away format. CSB home court will be at Rizal Memorial Colliseum. Mapua Cardinal since they had a campus in Makati they can use Makati Coliseum. JRU will play at San Juan Arena mas malapit sa kanila. Perpetual must find a better location with Las Pinas or Alabang area. SSC-R, SBC and Letran will use they own gymnasium instead kaya naman nila mag-accomodate around 3000 - 5000 crowd. Then kung Rivalry Game like San Beda - Letran, JRU - SSC, Mapua - Letran and last year finalist SBC - JRU will held at Cuneta Astrodome or Araneta.

That's exactly the idea im*pointing at.

Except for the Opening and Cheering competitions which obviously needs a big venue, the elimination rounds does'nt even attract a crowd more than 5000 depending whcih teams are playing....maswerte na kung pumalo ng 2000 ang manood.

Take the case of teams in the lower bracket standings. Band members lang and a few diehards and fanatics of their team are sure to watch the games. Unless they rack up consecutive wins, tatamarin yan pumunta sa malayong venue.

But in a home and away format, siguradong manonood niyan ang mga estudyante ng hosting team.

Venues need not be big but just enough to accomodate a few thousands.

Sanbeda has St. Placids.* JRU' got a spanking new gymnasium and Mapua's has a newly renovated gym that could accomodate bigger crowds. The Letran Gym, though not very new, is big enough to handle in a thousand spectators...standing room nga lang. I have no idea sa mga gyms ng SSC, CSB and UPHDS.

Kung matutuloy naman ang pag-pasok ng EAC Generals, they boast of the state of the art sporting facilities.

The point is, who needs a 12000 seater coliseum like the Cuneta/RMC/Ninoy kung ang manunood lang during the elims is less than... 3000??.

Lets give it a try...next years host?i

mighty_lion
10-05-2008, 11:53 AM
I like the idea of getting getting season tickets especially para dun sa mga hardcore. Another alternative is multiple entrace tickets. Say kunyari yong yong ringside tickets is sold at Php 200 per game, you can buy a ticket watch 10 games for a price of Php1500 (or Php 500 pesos off in total). Tapos tatakan na lang nila, parang yong sa Starbucks kapag Christmas. :)

Get_Blazed
10-05-2008, 12:07 PM
Let's have an home and away format. CSB home court will be at Rizal Memorial Colliseum. Mapua Cardinal since they had a campus in Makati they can use Makati Coliseum. JRU will play at San Juan Arena mas malapit sa kanila. Perpetual must find a better location with Las Pinas or Alabang area. SSC-R, SBC and Letran will use they own gymnasium instead kaya naman nila mag-accomodate around 3000 - 5000 crowd. Then kung Rivalry Game like San Beda - Letran, JRU - SSC, Mapua - Letran and last year finalist SBC - JRU will held at Cuneta Astrodome or Araneta.


Wag naman Rizal, pareko. Ninoy man lang! ;D

But then unfair naman yung "rivalry" games na yan. Rivalry lang naman yan sa paningin nung 2 teams eh.

oca
10-05-2008, 12:37 PM
An All-academic Team award (similar to the US NCAA) to reward the bonafide student athletes.* ;)

Bring back the elimination round games to the Arena - a safer, cleaner and comfortable venue.

A professional MANCOM.



Time to talk to Mari Lacson. How about a third party audit of student athletes. Classroom attendance, grades and all those stuff.






So far, sa mga nabanggit dito, this All-Academic Team Award is what I like best.

Let the teams recommend their own candidates and make the criteria simple and straightforward. No deliberations. Purely statistical ang criteria --- General Weighted Average and Player's All-Around Value lang ang basehan.

A certified true copy of grades from the past 2 terms (1st sem, 2nd sem) should suffice. Set a minimum grade for the academics. Like a weighted average of not lower than the equivalent rating of 80% with no subject grade lower than 80%. Taasan niyo kung gusto niyo.

But the academics should will form only 50% of the total criteria.

Student- athletes yan, kaya dapat may criteria sa pagiging athlete.

Here, the Player's All-Around Value, same criteria for using the end of season awards, should be used. Yung mga players na mataas ang PAV at mataas ang General Weighted Average ang tiyak mangingibaw sa computation. Walang minimum requirement sa PAV. Basta nag-log ng game stats ang isang bata--- automatic qualified.

Yung top 5 ang automatic awardees, regardless of position played.

Kung itutulak ito ng San Beda at pumasa sa Board, being the next host, I suggest they get a sponsor who will commit to give cash incentives for the next 3 or 5 years. That way sa mga susunod na taon, mapipilitan ang mga susunod na host na ipagpatuloy ang paggawad ng award dahil nariyan at may committed na incentives from that corporate sponsor.

Walang limit sa dami ng nominees from a team. Kung talagang magagaling ang mga student-athlete nila why disqualify others simply because may limit sa nominees. Kung sa dulo ang lahat ng awardess ay mula sa isang paaralan, let it be!

Kung talagang mahina ang mga iba, hayaan niyo sila!

toti_mendiola
10-05-2008, 03:15 PM
An All-academic Team award (similar to the US NCAA) to reward the bonafide student athletes. ;)

Bring back the elimination round games to the Arena - a safer, cleaner and comfortable venue.

A professional MANCOM.



Time to talk to Mari Lacson. How about a third party audit of student athletes. Classroom attendance, grades and all those stuff.

E di walang nasali sa mga players ng mga ibang teams.

lionbanker
10-05-2008, 10:29 PM
Ilang years ba ang contract ng NCAA sa ABS-CBN? Baka kasi pwede ng pumasok ang Solar Sports.

Rafiboy_05
10-05-2008, 11:37 PM
Ilang years ba ang contract ng NCAA sa ABS-CBN?* Baka kasi pwede ng pumasok ang Solar Sports.



kakapirma lang yata ng NCAA ng contract last year, di ko alam kung ilang years yun.

The_Big_Cat
10-06-2008, 09:40 AM
Ilang years ba ang contract ng NCAA sa ABS-CBN?* Baka kasi pwede ng pumasok ang Solar Sports.

The NCAA signed a 5-year deal before the start of the 2007 season.

The_Big_Cat
10-06-2008, 09:42 AM
Let's have an home and away format. CSB home court will be at Rizal Memorial Colliseum. Mapua Cardinal since they had a campus in Makati they can use Makati Coliseum. JRU will play at San Juan Arena mas malapit sa kanila. Perpetual must find a better location with Las Pinas or Alabang area. SSC-R, SBC and Letran will use they own gymnasium instead kaya naman nila mag-accomodate around 3000 - 5000 crowd. Then kung Rivalry Game like San Beda - Letran, JRU - SSC, Mapua - Letran and last year finalist SBC - JRU will held at Cuneta Astrodome or Araneta.

Sabungan na ang Makati Coliseum.

magnum_motoki
10-06-2008, 09:46 AM
season tickets/pass is the way to go!!!

-insane-
10-06-2008, 10:39 AM
Ilang years ba ang contract ng NCAA sa ABS-CBN?* Baka kasi pwede ng pumasok ang Solar Sports.

The NCAA signed a 5-year deal before the start of the 2007 season.


5 year deal hehehe 3years pa tau magtitiis na walang game airing tuwing monday tsktsk

untamed
10-06-2008, 12:15 PM
3 day televised, one weekend ok na sakin.

i'm in for eac and arellano let's give them a chance + 1 more competitive school in the ncaa.

more support from the member school. pag di kasi nagpapanalo yung team nila ayaw na suportahan. kaya yung iba mas gusto pa manood sa kabila.

and it's high time that the mancom will give importance to the colorful history of the league. the school tradition, the cheers, league records, etc. di ko nga alam kung may official record book ba ang ncaa.

ESCALERA JR.
10-06-2008, 12:51 PM
3 day televised, one weekend ok na sakin.

i'm in for eac and arellano let's give them a chance + 1 more competitive school in the ncaa.

more support from the member school. pag di kasi nagpapanalo yung team nila ayaw na suportahan. kaya yung iba mas gusto pa manood sa kabila.
and it's high time that the mancom will give importance to the colorful history of the league. the school tradition, the cheers, league records, etc.* di ko nga alam kung may official record book ba ang ncaa.

The home and away format will solve this problem lalo na sa mga teams languishing at the bottom 3 ng standings.

If they can't get to see the games live, the games will come to them right at their doorstep.

ESCALERA JR.
10-06-2008, 12:55 PM
3 day televised, one weekend ok na sakin.

i'm in for eac and arellano let's give them a chance + 1 more competitive school in the ncaa.

more support from the member school. pag di kasi nagpapanalo yung team nila ayaw na suportahan. kaya yung iba mas gusto pa manood sa kabila.
and it's high time that the mancom will give importance to the colorful history of the league. the school tradition, the cheers, league records, etc.* di ko nga alam kung may official record book ba ang ncaa.




The home and away format will solve this problem lalo nasa teams languishing at the bottom 3 of the standings.

If they can't see the games live, the games will come to them right at their doorsteps..

BedanRoar
10-06-2008, 01:50 PM
Ok sana. But most likely, walang students dadayo sa home court ng kalaban for security reasons.

LION
10-06-2008, 02:26 PM
And most school gyms are inadequate to host NCAA games. Seating capacity, security, parking, logistics, etc.

Malabo ang home and away format.

mighty_lion
10-06-2008, 04:16 PM
Naisip ko rin mas magiging magastos sa part ng ABS ang home and away format.

The_Big_Cat
10-06-2008, 04:35 PM
Naisip ko rin mas magiging magastos sa part ng ABS ang home and away format.

Yes. This was the number one concern during the MBA tv coverage of ABS-CBN.

Mas maganda siguro kung ang slogan for next season will be:
"TO THE FOUR AT 85" since San Beda will be the host school.* ;D

ESCALERA JR.
10-06-2008, 07:07 PM
Ang laking kaibahan ng MBA sa NC.

Logistics nightmare ang nanyari sa MBA, ang lalaki ng sweldo ng star players maliban sa malalakas pang lumamon kaya doon nagka lugi-lugi ang team owners. ;D

MBA goes all over the archipelago and major cities kaya malaki ang gastos while NCAA needs only to travel within Metro Manila.

Sugestion lang naman eto for season 85. It need not be taken seriously kung hindi naman viable.

Allright!

nastrans
10-06-2008, 10:15 PM
Well, the PBL did held some games in some of the NCAA schools during the time ABS ang nagcocover so it could be a possible option to do if television logistics are concern.

ESCALERA JR.
10-07-2008, 10:25 AM
That's right!

I know the PBL played some games in choice MM campus and students of their respective schools look forward to watching the games with enthusiasm.

May bayad din naman ang entrance kaya walang lugi!

redz16
10-07-2008, 10:58 AM
I suggest that only low attendance games from the past 2 NCAA season will be in Home and Away format. Let's base it on facts and figures to be fair to each school. A research and study is needed before presenting the idea to BOARD MEMBERS and NOT to MANCOM.

The purpose of Home and Away format is to bring the NCAA games closer to member schools. Then after two years, make another study on the effects of the format.

blue scorpion
10-07-2008, 08:05 PM
I would want a merger with the UAAP to happen. Nagiging corny na kasi ang UAAP. Parati na lang, Ateneo, La Salle, FEU at UE ang nasa final four. I want to see an Ateneo, La Salle, San Beda and Letran to happen.

Get_Blazed
10-07-2008, 08:45 PM
I would want a merger with the UAAP to happen. Nagiging corny na kasi ang UAAP. Parati na lang, Ateneo, La Salle, FEU at UE ang nasa final four. I want to see an Ateneo, La Salle, San Beda and Letran to happen.


We all know this is too far-fetched. Let them be.

blue scorpion
10-08-2008, 12:03 AM
I would want a merger with the UAAP to happen. Nagiging corny na kasi ang UAAP. Parati na lang, Ateneo, La Salle, FEU at UE ang nasa final four. I want to see an Ateneo, La Salle, San Beda and Letran to happen.


We all know this is too far-fetched. Let them be.


Kaya nga things I want to happen.

Get_Blazed
10-08-2008, 12:45 PM
I would want a merger with the UAAP to happen. Nagiging corny na kasi ang UAAP. Parati na lang, Ateneo, La Salle, FEU at UE ang nasa final four. I want to see an Ateneo, La Salle, San Beda and Letran to happen.


We all know this is too far-fetched. Let them be.


Kaya nga things I want to happen.


If you want it so much, do something. It is easier said than done.

-insane-
10-08-2008, 01:29 PM
malabo mangyari yun kasi ayaw talaga ng uaap makipag merge and hahaba yung sched pag nagyanri yun lalagpas na ng 1sem yung basketball kasi mas dadami ang laro

dark_blue
10-08-2008, 06:35 PM
Ano pa kaya? parang nasabi na lahat ng pwedeng i-suggest...mascot for season 85, pwede? Kasi walang mascot last opening, ang expected ko pa naman may robot na lalabas hehe 8)

Bring back Coach Lipa as commisioner. Huwag sii Narvasa. Doon na lang siya maghasik ng lagim sa "kabila" hehe :)

tulf
10-08-2008, 11:20 PM
^yup maganda yun lalo na kung each school may sarili nang mascot! tapos magugulat nalang yun crowd na nagsusuntukan na yun mga mascot hehehe! Letran lang ata may school mascot!

Get_Blazed
10-09-2008, 12:32 PM
Ano pa kaya? parang nasabi na lahat ng pwedeng i-suggest...mascot for season 85, pwede? Kasi walang mascot last opening, ang expected ko pa naman may robot na lalabas hehe 8)

Bring back Coach Lipa as commisioner. Huwag sii Narvasa. Doon na lang siya maghasik ng lagim sa "kabila" hehe :)


Yung avatar ko ngayon, si Blazie. MAscot na gawa ng CSB for Season 82. Classic. ;)

danny
10-13-2008, 12:23 AM
Better publish that NCAA rule book for crying loud. Mapua promised to provide an online copy. Where is it? Nagkalimutan na?

I* have been pestering the NCAA c/o Mapua for the OFFICIAL UPDATED NCAA RULEBOOK coming from the NCAA. The OFFICIAL UPDATED NCAA RULEBOOK coming from the host.


It seems that there's a new rule just recently passed. Ano na naman ito?

animo
10-13-2008, 10:57 AM
^yup maganda yun lalo na kung each school may sarili nang mascot! tapos magugulat nalang yun crowd na nagsusuntukan na yun mga mascot hehehe! Letran lang ata may school mascot!


mascot? meron na! kakatawa nga sila e. ;D

pyke
10-13-2008, 12:24 PM
Please admit the Arellano University Chiefs in the 85th Season!

Hail to the Chiefs!

pyke laygo
Law Student, Arellano University School of Law.

The_Big_Cat
10-13-2008, 12:28 PM
Please admit the Arellano University Chiefs in the 85th Season!

Hail to the Chiefs!

pyke laygo
Law Student, Arellano University School of Law.

Welcome pyke to gameface.
The NCAA would be more exciting with the inclusion of another powerhouse school like Arellano University.

pyke
10-13-2008, 12:46 PM
Please admit the Arellano University Chiefs in the 85th Season!

Hail to the Chiefs!

pyke laygo
Law Student, Arellano University School of Law.

Welcome pyke to gameface.
The NCAA would be more exciting with the inclusion of another powerhouse school like Arellano University.



Salamat. I am optimistic that the NCAA's ManCom would be considerate enough to approve our application.By the way, do you know where can I call or write the MANCOM?

razor
10-13-2008, 01:31 PM
Salamat. I am optimistic that the NCAA's ManCom would be considerate enough to approve our application.By the way, do you know where can I call or write the MANCOM?

Check the Lion's Den. I think a thread on one of our many MANCOM related issues will have the e-mail addresses or cellphone numbers of the Mancom members. ;D

pyke
10-13-2008, 05:27 PM
Salamat. I am optimistic that the NCAA's ManCom would be considerate enough to approve our application.By the way, do you know where can I call or write the MANCOM?


Check the Lion's Den. I think a thread on one of our many MANCOM related issues will have the e-mail addresses or cellphone numbers of the Mancom members.* ;D


Thank you Razor.

LION
10-14-2008, 12:15 PM
Things we want want to happen in Season 85? How about the thread starter revealing his identity to us. ;D

lekiboy
10-14-2008, 12:18 PM
Things we want want to happen in Season 85? How about the thread starter revealing his identity to us.* ;D


henry daw first name nya...:)

danny
10-16-2008, 04:19 AM
Things we want want to happen in Season 85? How about the thread starter revealing his identity to us.* ;D


He moves in mysterious ways. Revelation time naman diyan! ;D

oca
10-16-2008, 07:32 PM
Things we want want to happen in Season 85? How about the thread starter revealing his identity to us.* ;D


He moves in mysterious ways. Revelation time naman diyan! ;D


Ang ganda ng usapan dito, sinisira niyo! ;D

Ibalik on topic, particulary dun sa paggawad ng Academic Award as suggested by razor.

Eto isang link at maikling bahagi ng isang article tungkol sa isang Academic All-American awardee. One of many I have come across, but this one mentions* the criteria. Pwedeng starting* point in discussing "ano ba ang criteria".

http://www.pepperdinesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=91070&SPID=10828&DB_OEM_ID=18500&ATCLID=1479235

To be eligible, a student-athlete must be a varsity starter or key reserve, maintain a cumulative grade point average of 3.20 on a scale of 4.00, have reached sophomore athletic and academic standings at his/her current institution and be nominated by his/her sports information director.

The last time naging host ang San Beda, it was able to find a coveror to broadcast the games. Many are thankful for that. Kung maisasakatuparan itong Academic Awards for Student-Athletes, palagay ko yan ay isang achievement na mahirap pantayan para sa isang host. Basta hanapan niyo ng corporate sponsor who will commit to give incentives to the awardees for the next 3 ,4 or 5 years.

mighty_lion
10-16-2008, 10:09 PM
Summary to date.

- All Academic Team Award
- Season Tickets
- Keep Joe Lipa as Commissioner
- Online publication of NCAA Rulebook
- Weekend games
- The Arena as game venue
- 6th man of the year award
- Modify the selection criteria for Mythical Five (baka dumating ang araw 5 centro ang mythical five)

jayverns
10-16-2008, 11:02 PM
no jeering during halftime! hay naku eto na naman ako...

LION
10-17-2008, 07:38 AM
Summary to date.

- All Academic Team Award
- Season Tickets
- Keep Joe Lipa as Commissioner
- Online publication of NCAA Rulebook
- Weekend games
- The Arena as game venue
- 6th man of the year award
- Modify the selection criteria for Mythical Five (baka dumating ang araw 5 centro ang mythical five)


Is the position of Commissioner still relevant in the NCAA?

Halos wala namang power ang commissioner dahil Mancom na ang nagpapatakbo ng lahat ng bagay sa NCAA. Sa dami ng issue at controversies sa NCAA ni walang nagawa ang commissioner. Not because Joe Lipa is incompetent. It's because the position is now useless as explained above.

franz_inwurdz
10-17-2008, 08:26 AM
No to child labor! Kawawa naman ang mga bata at nakakauwi ng 7 o 8pm na hindi pa nakakahapunan o merienda. Isa pa, importante din ang ciesta sleep sa development stage nila.* :-\

pyke
10-17-2008, 02:53 PM
NCAA to announce new team before year ends
10/16/2008 | 06:21 PM
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MANILA, Philippines – The National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) will announce its new member school before the year ends, the league management committee said Thursday.

According to ManCom chairman Ding Lozano of Mapua, the announcement will be made on December 16.

Emilio Aguinaldo College, Centro Escolar University, Angeles Foundation University, Arellano University and Lyceum of the Philippines are the top candidates to crack the eight-league team and take up the spot left vacant by Philippine Christian University which will take a leave of absence.

Technological University of the Philippines and Don Bosco Mandaluyong are also knocking on the league's door but they have yet to send a letter of intent.

The five schools will have to comply with the requirements which include having a high-school varsity program, participation in all sports events calendared in the NCAA, undergoing a three-year probationary period and the payment of a P5-million membership fee.

Lozano added that the expansion may not stop this year.

"By 2009, we may add two more schools bringing to 10 our members for the 85th NCAA season," Lozano said.

The league's youngest teams are PCU, which joined in 1996, and College of Saint Benilde, which entered the tournament in 1998. - GMANews.TV

Get_Blazed
10-17-2008, 06:05 PM
NCAA to announce new team before year ends
10/16/2008 | 06:21 PM
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MANILA, Philippines – The National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) will announce its new member school before the year ends, the league management committee said Thursday.

According to ManCom chairman Ding Lozano of Mapua, the announcement will be made on December 16.

Emilio Aguinaldo College, Centro Escolar University, Angeles Foundation University, Arellano University and Lyceum of the Philippines are the top candidates to crack the eight-league team and take up the spot left vacant by Philippine Christian University which will take a leave of absence.

Technological University of the Philippines and Don Bosco Mandaluyong are also knocking on the league's door but they have yet to send a letter of intent.

The five schools will have to comply with the requirements which include having a high-school varsity program, participation in all sports events calendared in the NCAA, undergoing a three-year probationary period and the payment of a P5-million membership fee.

Lozano added that the expansion may not stop this year.

"By 2009, we may add two more schools bringing to 10 our members for the 85th NCAA season," Lozano said.

The league's youngest teams are PCU, which joined in 1996, and College of Saint Benilde, which entered the tournament in 1998. - GMANews.TV


Pls post this in the appropriate thread. Not here.

danny
10-23-2008, 01:51 AM
Summary to date.

- All Academic Team Award
- Season Tickets
- Keep Joe Lipa as Commissioner
- Online publication of NCAA Rulebook
- Weekend games
- The Arena as game venue
- 6th man of the year award
- Modify the selection criteria for Mythical Five (baka dumating ang araw 5 centro ang mythical five)


Is the position of Commissioner still relevant in the NCAA?

Halos wala namang power ang commissioner dahil Mancom na ang nagpapatakbo ng lahat ng bagay sa NCAA. Sa dami ng issue at controversies sa NCAA ni walang nagawa ang commissioner. Not because Joe Lipa is incompetent. It's because the position is now useless as explained above.




It has become just an* honorary position. The real wielder of power is the ManCom.

I suppose San Beda is working hard to allow more teams to join the league to dilute the vote of these power trippers.* ;D

danny
11-10-2008, 01:51 AM
An NCAA leadership that can think strategically in business and sports. Race to the bottom ang gusto, eh. :D ;D

gameface_one
06-23-2009, 05:17 PM
Article of Sam Miguel below which will be posted on the Gameface Homepage tomorrow:


The Morning After
By Sam Miguel
24 June 2009


85th Season Will Be Red and White Year Again

85 years is an awfully long time. Most people that old would probably be already on an assisted living diet, maybe even already wearing adult diapers, or writing their last will and testament. Not so for the oldest and most prestigious college varsity league in the land though. This year the National Collegiate Athletic Association turns a grand old 85 years. As usual, all eyes are on the centerpiece college basketball tournament.

San Beda College’s Red Lions have ruled the men’s basketball competition the last three years. They did it behind the dynamic duo of 6-foot-8 Nigerian giant Samuel Ekwe and 5-foot-11 pointguard John Paul Escobal. Ekwe was adjudged most valuable player in their first and third championship seasons. He could have easily completed an individual MVP grand slam of his own were it not for a freak call that resulted in a suspension in Season 83. Both men have since completed their eligibility and have moved on to pro careers. Ekwe was last with the Trace Laguna Stallions of the Liga Pilipinas while Escobal is with the Talk N Text Phone Pals of the PBA.

Nothing to worry about though, as the Red Lions of Season 85 are more than capable of defending the crown for a fourth straight year. It will not necessarily be as easy as in years past, but there is little to indicate that any team will definitely dethrone the Red Lions in Season 85. This team may not be as deep, as big and as talented as the last three years, but San Beda is this year’s Host School and certainly would not want to be embarrassed in the premiere basketball events.

6-foot-7 American import Sudan Daniels is the new man to keep an eye upon. He displays incredible athletic ability in a long and agile package. Daniels, unlike other college imports, is a legit American who already knew the game well when he came to the Philippine Islands. Ekwe, for all his accomplishments, came to the country barely knowing the game and needed at least three years to grasp its nuances. Daniels is a typical American baller who wants to dunk everything, but he has also learned how to work the low blocks as a converted center. He has just come off a championship campaign in the Nike Summer League where he was also named MVP. “I really hope we can build on this momentum and carry it into the NCAA,” he said during the Nike awarding ceremonies.

Daniels will have plenty of help in getting that 4-Peat. A lot of San Beda veterans are returning this year: 5-foot-11 JR Tecson and 6-foot-3 Bam Gamalinda are arguably the most important ones. These two are intelligent and patient players who will take up the leadership cudgels for the season. Tecson has developed into a clutch long-range shooter, while Gamalinda matches up well with any forward in the league. Also returning are chunky 6-foot-3 center JR Taganas, brawny 6-foot-5 center Dave Marcelo, 5-foot-7 pointguards Chico Tirona and Melo Lim, and 6-foot swingman Garvo Lanete. This is a core that has played together well for at least two years. Perhaps the most important returnee though is 6-foot-5 do-it-all forward Jake Pascual, a former NCAA high school MVP. Pascual literally saved the Red Lions and assured their grand slam in critical stages of crucial games last season with his amazing all-around versatility.

San Beda of course will not get served its 4-Peat on a silver platter. A couple of other teams are looking to challenge the Red and White dynasty. Jose Rizal University and San Sebastian College seem to be the biggest and most serious challengers to the crown, with their depth, talent and versatility.

The JRU Heavy Bombers still have a very potent and veteran core group led by 6-foot-5 center James Sena, 5-foot-9 pointguard Mark Cagoco, 6-foot-2 swingman John Wilson and 6-foot-2 forward Marvin Hayes. These four have the experience, talent and will to make a game of every contest, and in fact led the way when JRU beat San Beda in the first round of last season, quite a distinction for them. Joining them are more battle-tested veterans: 5-foot-8 pointguard Jay Bulangis, 5-foot-9 guard Nate Matute, 5-foot-10 African swingman Nchotu Njei, 6-foot-1 swingman Jay Agas, 6-foot-2 forward Jon Lopez, 6-foot-3 forward Jecster Apinan and 6-foot-5 center John Montemayor. That makes the Heavy Bombers at least two players deep at every position, more than a match for the Red Lions’ roster. JRU however will have to do without 6-foot-8 African import Etame Joe, who suffered a knee injury and might miss the entire season. Valuable rotation players Maui Pradas and Jason Nocom have used up their eligibility and are no longer around as well.

The San Sebastian Golden Stags are another team on the rise. They gave San Beda all they could handle in a highly physical championship match in the Nike Summer League, and inflicted an elimination round loss against the Red Lions in the Fil Oil. They no longer have superstars Jim Viray and Jason Ballesteros around, but they still have a potent lineup with many returning veterans. 6-foot-1 gunner Jimbo Aquino, 6-foot-2 forward Gilbert Bulangis and 5-foot-8 pointguard Pamboy Raymundo lead the way. Aquino is now the new main offensive weapon, Bulangis has taken on the enforcer role, while Raymundo is the new team leader. They are rejoined by 5-foot-11 guard Jonathan Semira, 5-foot-8 pointguards Anthony Del Rio and Raymond Maconocido, and 6-foot-4 forward-center Dave Najorda. Key additions include 6-foot-3 forward-center Ronald Pascual and 6-foot-2 forward Calvin Abueva. 6-foot-3 forward-center Mark Anthony “Tonton” Bringas might still return as well.

A dark horse for this season is Letran College. The Knights had some rather sudden personnel losses but still retain a lot of talent. 5-foot-10 pointguard RJ Jazul and 6-foot-3 small forward Rey Guevarra are the best at their positions in the NCAA. As long as they are with the Knights, head coach Louie Alas can count on being at least in the Final 4. A good enough break here and there and the Knights might even crash the Finals. 6-foot-6 center John Foronda and 6-foot-4 power forward Jam Cortez provide size and muscle in the paint and rebounding insurance. Also returning are 5-foot-8 pointguard Reymar Gutilban, 5-foot-11 gunner JP Belencion, and 6-foot-3 center-forward Jun Alas. Kevin Alas, the 6-foot hotshot out of their own high school program also joins the team this year. Gone are Regin Raneses, Alvyn Cabonce, Kojak Melegrito, Clarence Foronda and Anjoe Latonio. Latonio and the younger Foronda could have played again this year but chose to transfer to Far Eastern University in the UAAP.

Mapua Tech is another dark horse who might make things interesting leading up to the Final 4. Superstar Kelvin Dela Pena is gone, and his numbers and leadership might be impossible to replace. Also gone are hotshot swingman Ian Mazo and hardworking forward Neil Pascual. Still around though are 5-foot-8 shooter Allan Mangahas, versatile 6-foot-3 forward Maki Acosta, 6-foot-5 centers Jason Pascual and Mark Sarangay, 5-foot-10 guard TG Guillermo, 6-foot-2 swingman Kevin Espinosa and 5-foot-11 swingman Erwin “Wency” Cornejo. This is a Mapua team that can shoot well from the outside, with every player capable of hitting the 18 to 20-foot jumpshot, making them a tricky match-up challenge.

Among the three new teams, Arellano University might make the most noise. The Chieftains are hardcore legends who have taken down UAAP and NCAA teams with their frenetic run and gun style of play. Hardcore circuit veterans who might be seeing action in the NCAA include: 6-foot-5 center Ed Rivera, 6-foot-4 power forward Nap Apostol, 6-foot-4 forward Adrian Celada, 6-foot-2 swingman Isaiah Ciriacruz and 5-foot-1 pointguard Leonard “Bimbot” Anquilo. The NCAA can thank its lucky stars that superstars Orlando Daroya and Jordan Melanio are no longer with Arellano, having used up all their collegiate eligibility. This is a team that believes the early offense and quick ball movement are religion, and they can pile up points in bunches in a hurry.

Every other team is going to struggle in Season 85 though, and will have to look forward to next season and beyond to build up and find their own high-impact recruits. When all is said and done, the color of victory in Season 85 will still be Red and White.

elvis
06-24-2009, 12:50 PM
NCAA seniors basketball end of elimination ranking prediction
Written by jpabcede (ubelt.com)
Wednesday, June 24, 2009 5:30:00 AM

Would you believe that the two-week break from the collegiate basketball preseason leagues came like a breeze and a few days from now the 2009 season of the NCAA would commence?

I almost forgot to put out the necessary prediction rankings that I am compelled to cram this.Not to fret though as I already have an overview of how I would rank the ten teams for the coming season.

This time around, I would be doing things differently since I foresee that competition would be tight. Just like tour cycling, I would classify the teams into three groups: the lead pack, the peloton, and the trailing group.

The lead pack

1-3. Jose Rizal Univeristy, San Sebastian College-Recoletos, San Beda College

These are three strongest teams on paper and they would most likely battle for the top three spots with JRU being the frontrunner at the end of elimination. I have to emphasize the end-of-elimination disclaimer since anything could happen in the playoffs.

Anyway, with an experienced core bolstered by a behemoth in Joe Etame, the Heavy Bombers look primed for another finals appearance. But out to spoil Jose Rizal's party are SSC-R and SBC.

The Golden Stags have a bumper crop of rookies that play like veterans, which makes up for their relative youth. What remains to be seen is whether they could deliver when it really matters.

With a revamped starting lineup, work is cut out for the Red Lions. But that does not mean they will be pushovers this season as they go for their fourth straight seniors basketball trophy. Testament that they mean business when they won the 2009 Nike Summer League.

The peloton

4-7. Colegio de San Juan de Letran, Mapua Institute of Technology, Arellano University, Emilio Aguinaldo

Any of these four teams could make it to the final four provided breaks go their way. Every game matters to them or they might find themselves spending an early vacation in a quite lengthy calendar.

CSJL gets the inside track because Louie Alas always has an ace up his sleeve. This season he has two in siblings Kevin and Jun Alas. And do not forget the pair of RJ Jazul and Rey Guevarra.

MIT has a lot of potential despite getting a virtual overhaul. Gone are Kevin dela Peña, Neil Pacual, Ian Mazo, and coach Leo Isaac. Jonathan Banal is sitting this season out as he recovers from his ACL injury. How the rest of the Cardinals would fare is worth watching as they now employ a more aggressive approach in offense.

Meanwhile, guest teams AU and EAC could make it with the core of the NCRAA lineup getting the green light to play.

The trailing group

8-10. College of Saint Benilde, Angeles University Foundation, University of Perpetual Help System Dalta

The three teams rounding up the list may not make it to the next round, but they could pretty much play the spoiler's role which could foil the top teams' playoff runs.

I am going out on a limb here and predict that CSB would do better than virtual unknown AUF. I might be showing a little green here but based on their preseason performance, the Blazers were showing lots of promise.

Since I have not seen the Great Danes, I could not say anything about them.

As for UPHSD, it is garbage in, garbage out as head coach Boris Aldeguer would only rely with Bai Cristobal's leftovers.

oca
06-24-2009, 04:37 PM
Pahapyaw na tingin sa mga naunang post...

Sa pagbubukas ng liga sa Sabado---

There are now 10 teams.

Joe Lipa is not S85 Commissioner, pero palagay ko naman Aric del Rosario will do well.

Hihintayin natin kung televised ang Monday games.

May website www.ncaa.org.ph na pwedeng kunan ng kaunting impormasyon, sana mailathala dito ang Rulebook ng NCAA.

nuss
06-25-2009, 08:56 AM
MWF games are televised.

danny
06-25-2009, 12:24 PM
Pahapyaw na tingin sa mga naunang post...

Sa pagbubukas ng liga sa Sabado---

There are now 10 teams.

Joe Lipa is not S85 Commissioner, pero palagay ko naman Aric del Rosario will do well.

Hihintayin natin kung televised ang Monday games.

May website www.ncaa.org.ph na pwedeng kunan ng kaunting impormasyon, sana mailathala dito ang Rulebook ng NCAA.




Mabuti pinaalala mo ang rulebook.

Mga Bedista, pakibulong kay Mari Lacson.

oca
06-28-2009, 06:28 PM
In his capacity as Commissioner for S85, Aric del Rosario has been quoted on how the refs will call those dirty fouls.

Pero, mukhang may isa pang ipapatupad si Aric, how to address time outs that go beyond the regulated time limit.

Pag may time out, on the dot, the table will press the buzzer at the end of that time out. Then, the designated ref will make a (first) whistle. If the teams don't break the huddle, another (second) whistle will be made. If the teams are not yet on the court, then the ref on the inbound will put the ball on the floor and start counting 1...5. If the inbounding teams fails to make an inbound, malinaw na violation.

Now, if the defensive team fails to break the huddle in time and the offensive team is already positioned to make the inbound, sorry na lang ang defensive team.

Walang hihintayin na team ang mga ref when they put that ball in play.

I consider this a significant move since teams nowadays have habitually extended their time outs. Many times, the refs have to approach and break the huddle just to bring the teams back inside the court.

Pero, parang hamon din ito kay Kume at sa mga refs sa dikitang laro. What if this inadvertently decide the outcome of the ball game. Calling a 5 second inbound violation because the inbounding teams extended their time out. Or, the defensive team was late in breaking their huddle.

Magandang subaybayan ito....

LION
06-29-2009, 05:47 PM
Hihintayin natin kung televised ang Monday games.


Televised nga, oca. Delivered as promised.

oca
06-30-2009, 02:56 PM
Hihintayin natin kung televised ang Monday games.


Televised nga, oca. Delivered as promised.


Galing!

Now, kailan naman kaya mailalatahala ang NCAA Rulebook sa NCAA website? ;)

oca
06-30-2009, 03:17 PM
Napag-isipan lang habang nanonood ng AU - EAC game kahapon. Malinaw na hindsight. But since we are here to share opinions, observations, etc. allow me to waste a few minutes of your time.

AU, Athletic Director nila si Leo Isaac. The past two years, in S83 and S84 (correct me here) Leo Isaac was coach of the Mapua Caridnals. While Isaac was coach at MIT, he was also Athletic Dir for AU.

Conflict of interest?

None. Indirectly, I must say. Since, AU was not yet a member of the NCAA but has long ago signified its intention to apply.

Nung kasalukuyang coach si Leo sa Mapua, sinong de-kalibreng player ang na-recruit niya para sa MIT?

Now, kilatisin mo ang line-up ng AU.

Kilatisin mo ang line-up ng MIT.

Gets niyo?

I don't blame Isaac. Matagal nang naghangad makapasok sa NCAA ang AU. Di sikreto yan. Pero nang kunin siya ng MIT, napag-isipan ba ng MIT na kung anong "added value" ang dadalhin ni Isaac sa MIT? Yes, he is an alumnus and seems to be a good choice. But collegiate coaching is a more than coaching. There's the recruitment and player development that are as important as coaching per se.

Hindsight. Hindsight.

Yes, no argument on that.

But since no one has pointed it out, I am doing so because it serves a lesson for all schools. Next time you get a coach, get one who will commit to do a honest recruitment of players for your school.

Nalagas na ang line-up ng MIT from the time Isaac came in at walang de-kalibreng player mai-line up ang Cardinals.

Eto, ngayong ang koponan ni Athletic Director Isaac at mukhang makikipagsabayan agad sa karera sa F4!

bydpogi
06-30-2009, 03:56 PM
Napag-isipan lang habang nanonood ng AU - EAC game kahapon. Malinaw na hindsight. But since we are here to share opinions, observations, etc. allow me to waste a few minutes of your time.

AU, Athletic Director nila si Leo Isaac. The past two years, in S83 and S84 (correct me here) Leo Isaac was coach of the Mapua Caridnals. While Isaac was coach at MIT, he was also Athletic Dir for AU.

Conflict of interest?

None. Indirectly, I must say. Since, AU was not yet a member of the NCAA but has long ago signified its intention to apply.

Nung kasalukuyang coach si Leo sa Mapua, sinong de-kalibreng player ang na-recruit niya para sa MIT?

Now, kilatisin mo ang line-up ng AU.

Kilatisin mo ang line-up ng MIT.

Gets niyo?

I don't blame Isaac. Matagal nang naghangad makapasok sa NCAA ang AU. Di sikreto yan. Pero nang kunin siya ng MIT, napag-isipan ba ng MIT na kung anong "added value" ang dadalhin ni Isaac sa MIT? Yes, he is an alumnus and seems to be a good choice. But collegiate coaching is a more than coaching. There's the recruitment and player development that are as important as coaching per se.

Hindsight. Hindsight.

Yes, no argument on that.

But since no one has pointed it out, I am doing so because it serves a lesson for all schools. Next time you get a coach, get one who will commit to do a honest recruitment of players for your school.

Nalagas na ang line-up ng MIT from the time Isaac came in at walang de-kalibreng player mai-line up ang Cardinals.

Eto, ngayong ang koponan ni Athletic Director Isaac at mukhang makikipagsabayan agad sa karera sa F4!


Good Observation sir, nothing against coach leo, but yes, the cardinals does not have good recruits in the past 4 years... :-[

mighty_lion
06-30-2009, 06:39 PM
That Ciriacruz guy (PG) from AU is good.

nnahoj
07-20-2009, 10:08 PM
I hope they NCAA should do away with recorded school hymns after each game. It is a way to showcase school loyalties. It is really annoying to sing the school hymn with recordings.

danny
07-20-2009, 11:48 PM
^^^

That would be favorable to us Bedans. Since time immemorial, among the current NCAA schools, only Bedans know the school hymn by heart. We sing it in many Bedan gatherings, be it official or unofficial school activities. It's as natural as Balut ni Mang Roger for the Red Army.

It may be long and complicated,having been composed with passion and intellect by a great Filipino, still we prefer it sung from the bottom our our hearts.

Let's do away with recorded hymn in the NCAA. It's a cosmetic surgery gone wrong. A horrible band aid solution in fabricating "school spirit" for the benefit of big business. :D

LION
07-21-2009, 08:24 AM
The recorded school hymn was imposed by the NCAA Mancom.

Almost all the member schools look bad because majority of their students can't sing their respective school hymns. Only San Beda looked good in this aspect. So, to again "level the playing field", they issued a rule that recorded school hymns shall be mandatorily played after the games.

Talk about race to the bottom.

nnahoj
07-21-2009, 10:58 AM
So the Mancom imposed this riduculous practice, why am I not surprised. If it's not too late, can we scrap this practice before it becomes a tradition in the NCAA? Since we're the host this season, does SBC have the authority to repeal that stupid ruling?

MonL
07-22-2009, 11:20 AM
We can always jump the gun on this stupid rule by having the band play the school hymn right after the conclusion of the game. The high-fives and celebration can wait until after we play and sing our hymn without any piped-in interference.

We can heckle the operators to stop playing the recordings as a last resort when we have a band and a crowd to express our loyalties.

Nababastos na kasi tayo (I'm still giving them the benefit of the doubt as against saying binabastos na tayo.).

oca
07-22-2009, 07:27 PM
We can always jump the gun on this stupid rule by having the band play the school hymn right after the conclusion of the game. The high-fives and celebration can wait until after we play and sing our hymn without any piped-in interference.

We can heckle the operators to stop playing the recordings as a last resort when we have a band and a crowd to express our loyalties.

Nababastos na kasi tayo (I'm still giving them the benefit of the doubt as against saying binabastos na tayo.).


Tama unahan niyo na lang yung nagsasalang ng cd. Nautusan at sumusunod lang yung nagsasalang, kaya kahit sabihan niyo yan o senyasan patutugtugin pa rin nila yung cd.

Pag nauna na kayo at pinagtugtog pa rin LAKASAN niyo pa lalo ang pagkanta ninyo.

Joescoundrel
07-24-2009, 05:09 PM
Apart from the rather tumultuously ended Beda-Letran game today, I am eternally perplexed as to why the NCAA cannot fill a stadium. Last season the NCAA was at Cuneta, a large venue that is understandably difficult to fill. This season the NCAA is now at the Arena, and yet the stands still remain largely empty. What's going on...?

The_Big_Cat
07-24-2009, 05:28 PM
Apart from the rather tumultuously ended Beda-Letran game today, I am eternally perplexed as to why the NCAA cannot fill a stadium. Last season the NCAA was at Cuneta, a large venue that is understandably difficult to fill. This season the NCAA is now at the Arena, and yet the stands still remain largely empty. What's going on...?


It is because the playdates of the NCAA is on a weekday. The NCAA doesn't have the luxury of a weekend playdate.
Mahirap punuin yan on a weekday except kung Final Four or the Finals.

reforms
07-24-2009, 05:32 PM
Hmm, Sir, I think the main reason is because of the weekday games. Still, most of the students and alumni cannot just storm the venue just like that. We need to go to work or attend classes.

Nagagawa lang namin na makatakas sa trabaho pag final four na o kaya finals. pero sa ngayon medyo pa-good shot muna sa mga big bosses.

I just hope we can have weekend games soon... Ahem. ;)

nastrans
07-24-2009, 06:11 PM
Nasa scheduling lang yan ng NCAA and UAAP, kung willing lang ang UAAP at ABS-CBN magallow ng weekend games ang NC for TV purposes.

oca
07-24-2009, 06:52 PM
Apart from the rather tumultuously ended Beda-Letran game today, I am eternally perplexed as to why the NCAA cannot fill a stadium. Last season the NCAA was at Cuneta, a large venue that is understandably difficult to fill. This season the NCAA is now at the Arena, and yet the stands still remain largely empty. What's going on...?


Gaya ng sabi ng ilang naunang posts, weekday kasi. But we can also take this from another perspective---

Gaano ba kalaki ang crowd ng UAAP pag Huwebes? ;)

danny
07-24-2009, 11:54 PM
Apart from the rather tumultuously ended Beda-Letran game today, I am eternally perplexed as to why the NCAA cannot fill a stadium. Last season the NCAA was at Cuneta, a large venue that is understandably difficult to fill. This season the NCAA is now at the Arena, and yet the stands still remain largely empty. What's going on...?


Factor also the school population. On a per capita basis, a weekday UAAP game will have to be triple the size of this game to be comparable in real terms.

I doubt if the UAAP can match this weekday game in real terms rather than in nominal numbers.

Besides, why watch your team lose to the Red Lions. Most of them probably gave up a long time ago.

;D

naz-T
07-25-2009, 09:05 AM
Apart from the rather tumultuously ended Beda-Letran game today, I am eternally perplexed as to why the NCAA cannot fill a stadium. Last season the NCAA was at Cuneta, a large venue that is understandably difficult to fill. This season the NCAA is now at the Arena, and yet the stands still remain largely empty. What's going on...?


Maglaban lang Ateneo at La Salle kaya na siguro tapatan ang benta ng buong liga ng NCAA.

If you look at the crowd, except for San Beda, most people watching NCAA games are students that are required by the school to watch the games. Sa UAAP naman, mostly ata mga alumni ang nanunuod. Does it have something to do with the School Spirit? mas mahal ba ng mga alumni ng UAAP schools ang alma mater nila? o mas may kaya lang or may sinabi sa buhay ang mga taga UAAP schools?

Siguro the MANCOM also has to plan about it. Mahina rin siguro ang marketing strategy ng MANCOM.

borjie
07-25-2009, 05:29 PM
Apart from the rather tumultuously ended Beda-Letran game today, I am eternally perplexed as to why the NCAA cannot fill a stadium. Last season the NCAA was at Cuneta, a large venue that is understandably difficult to fill. This season the NCAA is now at the Arena, and yet the stands still remain largely empty. What's going on...?


Maglaban lang Ateneo at La Salle kaya na siguro tapatan ang benta ng buong liga ng NCAA.

If you look at the crowd, except for San Beda, most people watching NCAA games are students that are required by the school to watch the games. Sa UAAP naman, mostly ata mga alumni ang nanunuod. Does it have something to do with the School Spirit? mas mahal ba ng mga alumni ng UAAP schools ang alma mater nila? o mas may kaya lang or may sinabi sa buhay ang mga taga UAAP schools?

Siguro the MANCOM also has to plan about it. Mahina rin siguro ang marketing strategy ng MANCOM.


you're on the wrong side of the cyberspace brother.

pero sige, given an opportunity.

what if the UAAP allows the NCAA to have at least one of their two weekend playing dates and have their other game be played on a weekday.

unbiased di ba? two weekday playing days for both the NCAA and the UAAP and one each in the weekend.

Hindi kasi natin mapapatuyan ang puntong "bakit ang onti ng nanonood sa NCAA?" at "Sa UAAP maraming nanonood." hangga't hindi natin nakikita in actuality.

Malay natin, totoong onti lang ang nanonood ng NCAA kahit given na yung weekend playing day.

and err.. who cares who's rich and who's not?

danny
07-26-2009, 02:52 AM
Work with numbers.

Comparison of attendance should be based in REAL TERMS. Otherwise, the nominal numbers you see are illusions. But of course the nominal numbers are good for business.

Isang tao kumpara mo ba naman sa tatlo.

Kahit anong gawin nung isa, hindi pwedeng lampasan niya ang dalawang nanuod na kabilia.

A. 100% attendance pero isa lang.
B. 66% attendance pero lamang pa din in nominal terms dahil dalawa.

Gets niyo na.

Weekday pa yan ha. Pero sa San Beda lang yan applicable . hahahahaha!

billbordzz
07-26-2009, 01:45 PM
I don't think they will understand it, no matter how well you presented the case... 'cause they will almost always look at the numbers rather than the logic behind of things, that's how commercialized the other league has become.

danny
07-26-2009, 09:47 PM
I don't think they will understand it, no matter how well you presented the case... 'cause they will almost always look at the numbers rather than the logic behind of things, that's how commercialized the other league has become.



That's business. The bottomline rules. This is the new reality. Gone are the glory days of pure unadulterated college basketball based in Rizal Memorial. RIZAL MEMORIAL STADIUM!

Now we talk about money and sponsors.

That small school called San Beda can deliver both. The MOOLAH and the passion. That's why we are getting the attention of the other league.

:D

BigBlue
07-26-2009, 11:21 PM
Work with numbers.

Comparison of attendance should be based in REAL TERMS. Otherwise, the nominal numbers you see are illusions. But of course the nominal numbers are good for business.



danny, forgive my ignorance, but can you qualify what you mean by Real vis-a-vis Nominal terms?

LION
07-27-2009, 08:50 AM
Apart from the rather tumultuously ended Beda-Letran game today, I am eternally perplexed as to why the NCAA cannot fill a stadium. Last season the NCAA was at Cuneta, a large venue that is understandably difficult to fill. This season the NCAA is now at the Arena, and yet the stands still remain largely empty. What's going on...?


Maglaban lang Ateneo at La Salle kaya na siguro tapatan ang benta ng buong liga ng NCAA.

If you look at the crowd, except for San Beda, most people watching NCAA games are students that are required by the school to watch the games. Sa UAAP naman, mostly ata mga alumni ang nanunuod. Does it have something to do with the School Spirit? mas mahal ba ng mga alumni ng UAAP schools ang alma mater nila? o mas may kaya lang or may sinabi sa buhay ang mga taga UAAP schools?

Siguro the MANCOM also has to plan about it. Mahina rin siguro ang marketing strategy ng MANCOM.


you're on the wrong side of the cyberspace brother.

pero sige, given an opportunity.

what if the UAAP allows the NCAA to have at least one of their two weekend playing dates and have their other game be played on a weekday.

unbiased di ba? two weekday playing days for both the NCAA and the UAAP and one each in the weekend.

Hindi kasi natin mapapatuyan ang puntong "bakit ang onti ng nanonood sa NCAA?" at "Sa UAAP maraming nanonood." hangga't hindi natin nakikita in actuality.

Malay natin, totoong onti lang ang nanonood ng NCAA kahit given na yung weekend playing day.

and err.. who cares who's rich and who's not?



Kahit na weekend pa ang playing date, hindi pa rin mapupuno ang venue. Pero kung naka allocate lahat ng tickets sa San Beda, malamang mapuno yan. ;D

nnahoj
07-27-2009, 10:32 AM
That's business. The bottomline rules. This is the new reality. Gone are the glory days of pure unadulterated college basketball based in Rizal Memorial. RIZAL MEMORIAL STADIUM!

I miss watching games live at the Rizal Memorial Stadium. You go there with a single purpose just to watch your team play and no other. Hindi yung pupunta ka dun para magpa-cute lang

nash_bedista
07-27-2009, 10:37 AM
^^ yung tipong pag papawisan ka ng todo todo dahil sa intense ang game..

feel the heat kung baga..

nnahoj
07-27-2009, 01:29 PM
literal na feel the heat nga. ang init dun eh ;D

BedanRoar
07-27-2009, 04:56 PM
Which reminds me of the Famous Chant at Rizal Stadium.

Sus maryosep Sus maryosep

Ang Init Ang Init.

aim_balde
07-27-2009, 06:30 PM
very true indeed. during our time in 80`s nauso un chant sa rizal na SUSMARYOSEP... AND NOTE THAT EVEN OUR BELOVED SCHOOL'S( SAN BEDA) SENIORS TEAM THEN WAS NOT THAT COMPETITIVE BEDANS WOULD FILL ONE SIDE OF THE COLISEUM. during this period din when mas well attended ang NCAA compared to the other league except of course kung magkalaban un dalawa. nagbago lang lahat lately.. i've been following most of the forums but very seldom that i share my opinion. but this time i feel sharing with you what i wish for my beloved school this season 85. first, that we defend our crown and prove to the NCAA community our domination, then that we be open to the idea of having our beloved SAN BEDA to where it should be competing.. but we should focus first on defending the crown and hopefully a graceful exit. PAX!

MonL
07-28-2009, 07:56 AM
very true indeed. during our time in 80`s nauso un chant sa rizal na SUSMARYOSEP... AND NOTE THAT EVEN OUR BELOVED SCHOOL'S( SAN BEDA) SENIORS TEAM THEN WAS NOT THAT COMPETITIVE BEDANS WOULD FILL ONE SIDE OF THE COLISEUM. during this period din when mas well attended ang NCAA compared to the other league except of course kung magkalaban un dalawa. nagbago lang lahat lately.. i've been following most of the forums but very seldom that i share my opinion. but this time i feel sharing with you what i wish for my beloved school this season 85. first, that we defend our crown and prove to the NCAA community our domination, then that we be open to the idea of having our beloved SAN BEDA to where it should be competing.. but we should focus first on defending the crown and hopefully a graceful exit. PAX!


This chant first came about in 1978, IIRC, in the celebrations after SBC won the 2nd sudden death match for the second round flag vs Dela Salle at the Rizal Memorial. It was a cleanly fought match devoid of hooliganism, so unlike the first sudden death match vs. Letran. But the intensity of the games was matched by the heat of the coliseum, hence the chant.

franz_inwurdz
07-28-2009, 10:18 AM
How come Studio 23 did not show the game live yesterday? A soccer game was on at around 3:30pm.

The_Big_Cat
07-28-2009, 11:00 AM
How come Studio 23 did not show the game live yesterday? A soccer game was on at around 3:30pm.


Dahil daw sa SONA ni Frankie Lim. Este ni PGMA pala. ;D

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09-03-2009, 12:09 PM
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danny
09-06-2009, 08:18 AM
danny, forgive my ignorance, but can you qualify what you mean by Real vis-a-vis Nominal terms?


Take for example a small school like San Beda. A 100% attendance will still be not enough to compete with a big school with a 20,000 population.

The nominal numbers of attendance is misleading since San Beda has a much lower population to start with. To make it comparable ("real" in a loose term...similar to real interest rate vs nominal rate w/c factors inflation) either you use percentage or set up a weighted-comparison. Nominal, just the numbers. Real , adjusted to make the numbers comparable.

In this case, the participation rate (real), is a more legitimate benchmark rather than the nominal number of attendees.

But it's just San Beda that I'm defending. Not the NCAA. hehehe.

Sorry ngayon ko lang nabasa.