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myktristan
09-18-2008, 02:33 PM
Odds are stacked against Manny..what are your thoughts? Will Manny's speed and power diminish due to moving up of weight? Does Oscar have enough "cojones" to slug it out with Manny?

myktristan
09-18-2008, 02:34 PM
Pacquiao begins training in Los Angeles
By Jun Medina
http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2008/sep/18/yehey/sports/20080918spo3.html

LOS ANGELES: World boxing champion Manny Pacquiao begins his training on Thursday (Friday in Manila) while his opponent Oscar de la Hoya has yet to appoint a trainer for their “Dream Fight” on December 6 in Las Vegas.

Pacquiao arrived here Sunday night with his Filipino trainers via Philippine Airlines and was mobbed by adoring fans, most of them Filipinos, at the Los Angeles International Airport.

Pacquiao told newsmen that his training will be closed to the public to allow him to fully focus preparing for what he called the “biggest fight in my boxing career.”

“Closed to the public,” a staff at the famous Wild Card Gym in Hollywood said by phone when asked if fans and the media could watch Pacquiao train.

At the De la Hoya’s Golden Boy Promotions headquarters on Wilshire Avenue here, the buzz is still finding a trainer for the Mexican American ring superstar, who was reported to have started light training last week in his Puerto Rico home. Oscar is married to Puerto Rican pop singer, Millie Corretjer of San Juan, the capital city.

De la Hoya wanted his long-time trainer Floyd Mayweather Sr. to prepare him for his Pacquiao bout. But Mayweather has committed to train Britain’s Ricky Hatton for his November 22 welterweight fight with Paulie Malignaggi.

“There is no decision on who the trainer is going to be. We’ll be making a decision in the next couple of days,” de la Hoya told ESPN.com.

myktristan
09-18-2008, 02:35 PM
Tired Pacman skips training
By Ronnie Nathanielsz
http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=sports2_sept18_2008

RING idol Manny Pacquiao skipped a planned training session at the Wild Card Gym and also missed a scheduled dinner with promoter Bob Arum in Las Vegas.

Pacquiao’s lawyer Franklin “Jeng” Gacal told www.insidesports.ph, Standard Today and Viva Sports in an overseas telephone conversation, that Pacquiao was not feeling well and was tired after the long flight from Manila

“Everything is fine, Pacquiao is resting,” said Gacal.

Pacquiao flew to Los Angeles on Sunday night aboard a Philippine Airlines flight and was met by scores of fans at the airport.

His trainer Freddie Roach plans to make sure that Pacquiao is not disturbed or distracted during his 10 weeks of hard training for the dream match against Oscar De La Hoya at the MGM Grand Garden Arena on Dec. 6. He added that they will do their training behind closed doors.

Roach said he hasn’t seen Pacquiao yet.

“But we’ll start training tomorrow,” said the trainer, who added he was happy that Pacquiao is checking into training camp early because he will “have to work very hard.”

Roach said he was confident Pacquiao will be ready for De La Hoya after 10 weeks of training. He said De La Hoya looks in shape and is probably about 10 pounds over the stipulated 147 pound limit for the fight, although Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer claimed the Golden Boy was only a couple of pounds over 147.

Roach said he thinks Pacquiao should come in at 142 for the official weigh-in. “By fight time, we’ll be 147-148. You need speed to win this fight and to move in and out quickly.”

wolfy
10-02-2008, 02:31 PM
Pacman padin!! ;D

Malaki nga si Dela Hoya, kung hindi naman sya makakatama o mauunahan sya, wala din!!

tigerman
10-02-2008, 04:20 PM
http://ph.news.yahoo.com/gma/20081002/tsp-golden-boy-to-pulverize-pacman-rp-so-9a97127.html

MANILA, Philippines - Unable to stop the fight between World Boxing Council lightweight champion Emmanuel "Manny" Pacquiao and superstar Oscar De La Hoya, Cagayan de Oro Representative Rufus Rodriguez predicted Pacquiao will suffer a pulverizing loss to De La Hoya this December.

Rodriguez said Pacquiao has a four-inch height disadvantage and he is going up two weight divisions after only one fight in the lightweight category to face De La Hoya.

"He is going to be pulverized there. I believe he has no chance at all. Pacquiao will be destroyed by Dela Hoya," Rodriguez said in an article posted on the House of Representatives website.

During the budget hearing of the Games and Amusement Board (GAB), Rodriguez said the fight with De La Hoya is something Pacquiao should not take considering their disparity in size.

He added this is also the only fight of Pacquiao in which he can say with all honesty that commercialism should stop.

"The way I see it, this is only money for Manny Pacquiao," Rodriguez said.

During the hearing, GAB chairman Eric Buhain said the board made a resolution stating its position against the fight, when it learned of the fight scheduled in December.

Buhain said the resolution was sent to the management of Pacquiao and even the international boxing bodies like the WBC, WBA, IBF and WBO.

"Alam po naman natin Pacquiao is a national treasure and we want to ensure his safety," Buhain said.

But Buhain said there is no way the GAB can stop the fight especially since it will be held in the United States.

The Nevada Boxing Commission has also allowed the fight to push through, Buhain said. - GMANews.TV



Saan kaya pupulutin si Rufus in case Manny wins especially if by knockout.* ;D




USTE LO MEJOR!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS!

yungha
10-06-2008, 10:02 AM
^ if rufus rodriguez is truly concerned about our boxers' welfare he should look into the sending of our young, inexperienced and overmatched boxers to places like thailand where they get slaughtered. he should look into cases like lito sisnorio who went to thailand unprepared, faced a tough cookie in chatchai sasakul, got KO'd and died soon thereafter in the hospital.

if you really care about our boxers, mr. rodriguez, these are things that need looking into. wag ka na maki-sawsaw sa popularity ni manny.

AnthonyServinio
10-22-2008, 02:57 AM
* * *I recently went to one of the Toy Kingdom branches and saw that the salesmen were playing the latest EA Sports Fight Night for Play Station II. I asked them to select Manny Pacquiao against Oscar dela Hoya.

* * *Pacquiao barely took the first round, confusing the Golden Boy with his speed and variety of punch combinations.

* * *Come the second round, dela Hoya was getting staggered by Pacquiao's power punches that he got knocked down with a little over ten seconds left via a left uppercut to the chin.* Fortunately, dela Hoya rose in time for the bell at round's end.

* * *Dela Hoya took advantage of the rest and began to take the fght to Pacquiao in the third round, winning his first round, albeit in close fashion.* Still, the PacMan managed to connect on several crisp punches to the face and body.

* * *As the bell for the fourth round rang, it was time to run to the theater to catch the start of the movie.* Let's just wait for December 6.

coreytaylor
10-28-2008, 08:30 AM
Hoya’s finishing touch doubted
By Roy Luarca
Philippine Daily Inquirer

A noted boxing observer Monday said he saw a major flaw in De La Hoya’s recent fights—his inability to close the show in his favor.

In his article on www.newsday.com on Sunday, boxing writer Robert Cassidy noted that De La Hoya was leading against such tough foes as Felix Trinidad, Bernard Hopkins, Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Sugar Shane Mosley only to allow victory to escape his grasp.

De La Hoya fans may point out to incompetent judges as the culprit, said Cassidy, but ring pundits also noted that the ageing 10-time world champion seemed to be fading in the last few rounds.

At 35 now, De La Hoya may no longer be the deadly finisher who sowed terror in the ring in six weight divisions.

Freddie Roach, the highly regarded trainer of pound-for-pound king Manny Pacquiao, had earlier said that De La Hoya could no longer pull the trigger.

Roach insists that De La Hoya is ripe for the picking when he tangles with Pacquiao on Dec. 6 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

Owing to his four-inch height, five-inch reach and 14-pound weight advantage, however, De La Hoya has been installed the heavy favorite to beat Pacquiao when they clash at the catch weight of 147 pounds.

This is because in boxing, all things being equal, the bigger fighter generally beats the smaller fighter, according to Hall of Fame trainer Angelo Dundee.

Not all things will be equal in the Hoya-Pacquiao dream bout, however, according to pundits.

Although De La Hoya will be stronger, Pacquiao will be faster, they said.

With his edge, De La Hoya needs to stop Pacquiao early or the Filipino fireball could wear him down in the closing rounds, said five-time world champion Sugar Ray Leonard.

And De La Hoya will have to go through the wringer again.

coreytaylor
10-28-2008, 08:31 AM
A shield can be Pacman’s biggest weapon
By Recah Trinidad
Philippine Daily Inquirer

Leonard put it bluntly and told Pacquiao he won’t stand a chance against Oscar De La Hoya if he forgets his shield, no matter how flimsy, in the dugout.

That, you bet, is a big improvement from what the sage Angelo Dundee had predicted when he swore that he didn’t see any chance of Pacquiao winning over De La Hoya.

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OK, you can say that Dundee, with his mythical credentials, could easily qualify as the pontiff of prizefighting, if there’s such a being.

But it’s easier to side with Leonard.

Not only because he sounded a lot more profound than Dundee in tackling Pacquiao’s chances against De La Hoya.

Leonard was, indeed, in a better position to hit it right.

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Why? Well, if Dundee is a PP (Pontiff of Pugilism), Leonard is nothing less than a DD.

Yes, the Duke of Defense.

In fact, Pacquiao and his handlers, led by the achiever Freddie Roach, need not be reminded that Leonard succeeded in punctuating his brilliant ring career with that unforgettable come-from-behind stoppage of the bigger Donny Lalonde.

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No, Leonard did not say the Pacquiao-De La Hoya Dream Match in Las Vegas could shape up like his classic encounter with Lalonde.

If memory serves, the smaller Leonard, then the WBC middleweight champion, had to move up to challenge Lalonde for the WBC light heavyweight championship at Caesar’s Palace in November 1988.

Leonard managed to knock Lalonde out, but only after surviving heavy head and body bombardment.

* * *

Says Leonard: “As the smaller guy, Pacquiao will be very aggressive. But he must protect himself from the big punches, he has to be defensive.”

Then, admitting that Pacquiao is “open and very vulnerable when he’s on the attack,” Leonard predicted an interesting match.

There, definitely, won’t be a mismatch, Leonard stressed.

* * *

Leonard went on to liken Pacquiao to a Tazmanian Devil, a nonstop attacker.

Yes, if De La Hoya takes Pacquiao lightly, as Leonard warned, the Golden Boy could end up being chased, cornered and overtaken by a pack of hungry wolves.

Leonard also made it clear that he doesn’t see the fight slipping into an oddity due to the disparity in height and build.

* * *

Maybe Leonard himself doubts it, but Pacquiao should be able to catch and hurt De La Hoya.

Pacquiao’s fabulous speed and power will be very hard to match.

But, again, Leonard is quite clear in stressing that Pacquiao can’t swing it with his offensive savvy alone.

At the rate he’s training like hell, Pacquiao should report to the fight fully loaded.

But, to repeat, Pacquiao must also make sure he has his shield—which could prove to be his biggest weapon—with him.

Or does he already have one?

coreytaylor
11-01-2008, 07:58 AM
Hoya forms ‘Dream Team’ vs Pacquiao
By Francis Ochoa
Philippine Daily Inquirer

MANILA, Philippines—Oscar De La Hoya is putting together a “Dream Team” of sorts in his corner.

Already training under a Hall-of-Famer, the Golden Boy hooked up yet another ring legend in Angelo Dundee, who will act as a consultant for De La Hoya’s corner for the Dec. 6 bout against Filipino ring sensation Manny Pacquiao at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

The tie-up was revealed Thursday in a special press event mounted by De La Hoya’s Golden Boy Promotions, which is co-promoting what is expected to be the year’s biggest ring showdown.

Dundee, a Hall-of-Fame trainer who has worked with 15 world champions—including such greats as Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard and George Foreman—told reporters during the media conference that the deal allowed him to work with yet another boxing great also headed for the Hall of Fame.

“After working with Ali and Leonard, I think it’s only fitting that I now get the chance to work with the most important fighter of this era,” Dundee was quoted by ESPN’s Dan Rafael as saying Thursday. “This fight against Pacquiao is the biggest fight boxing has seen in years and I’m excited to be a part of it and to help lead Oscar to victory.”

De La Hoya already inked Nacho Beristain as his chief trainer, but the 87-year-old Dundee will help out in plotting strategies against the Pacman, who is acknowledged as the world’s best pound-for-pound fighter.

While having the two trainers may be a case of too many cooks spoiling the broth, Dundee said he will give way to Beristain’s decisions for the fight.

“They’ll dictate the role, but whatever is necessary I will do,” Dundee said. “I will speak with De La Hoya and Nacho, but I am not a guy who pushes. I’m there to help. I’m not there to mix anybody up.”

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Wow! De La Hoya is really desperate in defeating Pacquiao. He really wants to defeat him badly. ;D Well, goodluck na lang sayo! ;D Manny! (5x) ;D ;D ;D

Dark Knight
11-01-2008, 10:23 AM
Sadly, im not a Pacquiao fan. I root for every Pacman's opponent but they all lost...............or now. I want Pacman to lose bigtime this time. He has no system in his attacks and just relying on his strong punch. Kumbaga eh, tira ng tira kahit tamaan. Too aggressive.

MonL
11-01-2008, 12:31 PM
Hoya forms ‘Dream Team’ vs Pacquiao
By Francis Ochoa
Philippine Daily Inquirer

MANILA, Philippines—Oscar De La Hoya is putting together a “Dream Team” of sorts in his corner.

Already training under a Hall-of-Famer, the Golden Boy hooked up yet another ring legend in Angelo Dundee, who will act as a consultant for De La Hoya’s corner for the Dec. 6 bout against Filipino ring sensation Manny Pacquiao at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

The tie-up was revealed Thursday in a special press event mounted by De La Hoya’s Golden Boy Promotions, which is co-promoting what is expected to be the year’s biggest ring showdown.

Dundee, a Hall-of-Fame trainer who has worked with 15 world champions—including such greats as Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard and George Foreman—told reporters during the media conference that the deal allowed him to work with yet another boxing great also headed for the Hall of Fame.

“After working with Ali and Leonard, I think it’s only fitting that I now get the chance to work with the most important fighter of this era,” Dundee was quoted by ESPN’s Dan Rafael as saying Thursday. “This fight against Pacquiao is the biggest fight boxing has seen in years and I’m excited to be a part of it and to help lead Oscar to victory.”

De La Hoya already inked Nacho Beristain as his chief trainer, but the 87-year-old Dundee will help out in plotting strategies against the Pacman, who is acknowledged as the world’s best pound-for-pound fighter.

While having the two trainers may be a case of too many cooks spoiling the broth, Dundee said he will give way to Beristain’s decisions for the fight.

“They’ll dictate the role, but whatever is necessary I will do,” Dundee said. “I will speak with De La Hoya and Nacho, but I am not a guy who pushes. I’m there to help. I’m not there to mix anybody up.”

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Wow! De La Hoya is really desperate in defeating Pacquiao. He really wants to defeat him badly.* ;D Well, goodluck na lang sayo!* ;D* * *Manny! (5x)* ;D* ;D* ;D


Oscar has too many cooks in his kitchen preparing just one broth.... :P

Regular Grey
11-03-2008, 10:22 PM
Sana wag lang si Chino Trinidad ang commentator - NAKAKA INIS!

Dark Knight
11-03-2008, 10:56 PM
GO DELA HOYA!!!!!!!!!!!

;)

Kid Cubao
11-04-2008, 08:06 AM
thank you for jinxing oscar de la hoya.

coreytaylor
11-08-2008, 09:35 AM
Roach: Manny will KO Hoya in 9
WBC fee issue ‘distracting’ Pacquiao, says lawyer
By Francis Ochoa
Philippine Daily Inquirer

MANILA, Philippines—Amid the “distraction” wrought by the issue of unpaid sanction fees, confidence within Team Pacquiao continues to soar with the belief that the Dec. 6 “Dream Match” at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas won’t end up being a nightmare.

For Manny Pacquiao, that is.

As far as Freddie Roach is concerned, Oscar De La Hoya is going to wake up bewildered after Pacquiao puts him to sleep somewhere in the first nine rounds of the year’s most anticipated fight.

“I’m so confident in Pacquiao in this fight,” Roach told FoxSports.com’s Mark Kriegel during an exclusive video interview. “We’re going to knock (De La Hoya) out nine rounds.”

The bold words come at the heels of an admission by a lawyer representing Pacquiao that the Filipino ring icon’s attention is now split between training for the Dec. 6 bout and worrying about the World Boxing Council’s threat to strip him of his title over unpaid fees.

WBC president Jose Sulaiman warned Pacquiao on Thursday that if he doesn’t cough up the $130,000 it owes the boxing body, he might be forced to strip the Pacman of the lightweight title.

“This is a bit of a distraction,” for Pacquiao who faces De La Hoya in a nontitle fight in Las Vegas, lawyer Jeng Gacal said.

Gacal said they were “surprised” by the charge that Pacquiao still owed the WBC money for his July match against David Diaz, when he won the organization’s lightweight belt.

Boxers pay fees to the WBC in exchange for the organization sanctioning their bouts.

Gacal said he had sent a letter to the WBC asking for an explanation, saying such fees had always been deducted from Pacquiao’s purses.

The WBC clarified in a statement Friday that the unpaid dues may have stemmed from a misunderstanding involving Michael Koncz, one of Pacquiao’s advisers.

The Filipino, according to the WBC, owes the organization $30,000 in unpaid sanction fees and $100,000 for the coming De La Hoya bout.

The WBC said in a statement that it felt “humiliated and betrayed” by the actions of Koncz.

Despite the controversy, Roach feels nothing can stop Pacquiao from beating De La Hoya.

“He [De La Hoya] gets quite tired at normal paces,” Roach said. “Pacquiao doesn’t fight at normal paces. We’re going to push the old man.”

“Oscar can’t really stand the pace of a Manny Pacquiao, fighting three minutes of every round, attacking him, putting the pressure on this guy, taking away his height and reach advantage by getting close and working that body where Oscar has been weak his whole career.”

coreytaylor
11-08-2008, 09:36 AM
Roach says Pacman will beat Oscar in 9
By Salven Lagumbay
Cebu Daily News

CALIFORNIA--In an exclusive video interview with FoxSports.com's Mark Kriegel, two-time BWAA “Trainer of the Year” Freddie Roach, boldly predicted that his star pupil, WBC lightweight king and boxing's No. 1 pound-for-pound fighter Manny Pacquiao, would knock out Oscar De La Hoya when they meet on Dec. 6, in a 12-round welterweight super fight at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

“I'm so confident in Pacquiao in this fight...we're going to knock him out in nine rounds,” said Roach. “He [Oscar] gets quite tired at normal paces. Pacquiao doesn't fight at normal paces. We're going to push the old man…I love this fight!”

Pacquiao is currently training at the Wild Card Gym in Hollywood while De la Hoya is girding up for the fight in Big Bear, California.

Roach was also asked on whether Oscar will ever have the support of the die-hard Mexican fans, to which he answered:

“No…They [Mexican fight fans] like fighters, not boxers. When the bell rings, the Mexican fans in the audience are going to be on Pacquiao's side...The true Mexican fans love his [Pacquiao's] style.”

The bespectacled ring tactician also slightly gave away a hint on what will be Team Pacquiao's fight strategy.

“Oscar can't really stand the pace of a Manny Pacquiao, fighting three minutes of every round, attacking him, putting the pressure on this guy, taking away his height and reach advantage by getting close and fighting on the inside and work that body where Oscar has been weak his whole career. And at this stage of Oscar's career, he's busted up. He's starting to break up. His face in the Forbes fight, he was all banged up after that fight. He had a broken cheekbone…and this guy [Forbes] can't even punch.”

Apparently, the gap between Roach and De la Hoya, whom he trained last year for the Mayweather gap, has started widening up owing to what Roach said was De la Hoya's inability to tell him personally that he won't be his trainer for the next fight.

“I found out through the media that I was no longer the trainer and that he brought Floyd Sr. back and it was a little disappointing because Oscar had told me, one time, he said, ‘I'll never fight without you in my corner again.’ It bothered me that he couldn't tell me face to face.”

Meanwhile, Ignacio “Nacho” Beristain and Roach will host an international media conference call on Monday, November 10 to discuss their fighters training regimen in preparation for their December 6 “The Dream Match”-De la Hoya vs. Pacquiao.

Also set to join the discussion are Richard Shaefer, CEO of Golden Boy Promotions and Bob Arum, Top Rank Chairman.

Monday's conference call is the first of several weekly conference calls leading up to the 'Dream Match' on Dec. 6.

Also on Wednesday, Golden Boy Promotions has set up a special media day where Oscar De la Hoya will answer questions from the media straight from his camp in Big Bear, California, an area well known for snow skiing during winter in Southern California.

“The Golden Boy Promotions is providing the media a free bus to and from Big Bear and lunch to boot!” reports Philboxing.com's Ed de la Vega.

coreytaylor
11-08-2008, 09:38 AM
Pacquiao going for the ribs this time
By Francis Ochoa
Philippine Daily Inquirer

MANILA, Philippines—Slowly but surely, the issue on size is becoming a non-issue.

Manny Pacquiao’s camp is continuing to craft ways to overhaul Oscar De La Hoya’s literally huge advantage to make sure that both fighters come in pretty even when they clash in the “Dream Match” at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas on Dec. 6.

Pacquiao has constantly been sparring with bigger fighters, including British phenom Amir Khan, at trainer Freddie Roach’s Wild Card gym in a bid to get accustomed to brawling against a bigger opponent.

“I can handle the power of my sparring partners who are bigger than I am because I am getting bigger also,” Pacquiao told reporters during a teleconference recently. “I think I can handle Oscar’s power.”

But even then, Pacquiao isn’t easing up in training as he constantly plunges into a rigorous plyometrics routine aimed at building up his speed and power. Roach described the plyometrics stage of the training as “pretty intense.”

“I need to improve my speed and power because I’m going up in weight,” Pacquiao explained. “The added weight won’t make me slower. I’m bulking up my muscles because of the exercises.”

But more than the training regimen, it is sparring that keeps Pacquiao right on target for an upset victory.

“You should see the sparring,” Roach told fightnews.com.

Even Khan admits Pacquiao has learned a lot sparring against him and other bigger guys.

“It’ll make Manny think about what’s coming,” Khan told the LA Times.

Roach told fightnews.com that Pacquiao has been stepping up in training lately, and the Filipino ring icon said his camp is trying out a couple of secret techniques to use against the Golden Boy.

Although Pacquiao refused to divulge the techniques in training, fightnews.com reported that the Pacman has been working out body shots with an aim to “break [De La Hoya’s] ribs.”

Pacquiao has said the fight against De La Hoya will kick off his retirement parade, and that he’ll fight once or twice after the Dec. 6 blockbuster. And the Gen. Santos City-bred southpaw is preparing for this one with a passion.

“The money doesn’t hurt, but that’s not what this is about for Manny.” Roach told fightnews.com. “He and Oscar are both good people and they’re gentlemen, but I’ll tell you, they don’t like each other. For Manny, this is personal.”

As personal as this one is, however, Pacquiao won’t go as far as saying he’ll go for a knockout.

“The knockout will come if you train hard,” Pacquiao said.

Pacquiao did not divulge who he would prefer as his last two foes, but he said he isn’t closing his doors on the possibility of tangling with pound-for-pound rival Floyd Mayweather Jr. or giving in to the clamor for a third bout against Juan Manuel Marquez, whom he drew with once and also defeated once—both controversially.

“If the price is right,” Pacquiao said. “But my focus is on De La Hoya right now.”

Dark Knight
11-10-2008, 10:59 PM
This fight will end Manny's carreer ;D

Regular Grey
11-11-2008, 12:29 AM
This fight will end Manny's carreer* ;D


ok din ang suporta mo sa kapwa mo Filipino.

Dark Knight
11-11-2008, 08:04 PM
Hi.

My post has nothing to do with patriotism. If i dont feel the man, whether he's a Filipino or any other nationality, i will not root for him. Im not a hypocrite. Just because Manny is a Filipino then automatically i will support him. We all have our choices. Sadly, Pacquiao is not my type ever since he is starting his boxing career. Im not like others who are just "sumasabay sa agos" or "everybody is rooting for this guy so why not me?" The same with our National Basketball Team competing in international competitions.

I admire Elorde because he doesnt let himself be used by "influential people". Elorde fights for his country, not for money. I also admire Efren Reyes because he is humble and not the showbiz type.

But Manny? Sorry, hes not my type of boxer. if he wins then good for the Philippines.

So with that said............GO DELA HOYA!!!!!!!!!!!!! Beat the crap out of Manny. I can express myself freely can i? ;D

yungha
11-27-2008, 08:35 AM
Team Pacquiao tempts Oscar!

Sensing Oscar De La Hoya has been starving himself in training camp to make weight, even admitting that he would have to forego Thanksgiving dinner, Team Pacquiao has decided to make it a little harder for the Golden Boy. They have arranged for an 11.25-pound, 12-inch chocolate cheesecake from the world-famous Carnegie Deli in New York City to be delivered to Oscar today at Summit Camp in Big Bear Lake, Calif., where he is training. The following message is included: "Oscar -- Looking forward to serving you your just desserts on December 6. Happy Thanksgiving. From Team Pacquiao." De La Hoya has been claiming he's been walking around at 145 pounds (curiously the recent segment of "24/7" showed him weighing 155 pounds), as he prepares for his welterweight super fight against the Pacman.


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NOTE: The cheesecake, which was FedExed from the Carnegie Deli's bakery in New Jersey yesterday, arrived at the FedEx Rialto, California facility at 9:09 a.m. PST this morning where it is now on a truck headed to Oscar's training camp for delivery later today.

Kid Cubao
11-27-2008, 08:41 AM
maniwala akong 145 pounds na lang si oscar. mas credible yung account na 155 pounds sya with a week to go. i think he can sweat off eight pounds just before the weigh-in.

coreytaylor
12-03-2008, 12:15 PM
Oi malapat na toh! 4 days to go! ;D

I believe Manny can win this by decision. All he needs to do is to keep his distance from Oscar because Oscar has the advantage in terms of reach. He should know when to attack. His decision-making is crucial.

coreytaylor
12-04-2008, 01:03 PM
Dream Match will go 12 rounds–Dundee
By Francis Ochoa
Philippine Daily Inquirer

LOS ANGELES—Angelo Dundee has trained some of boxing’s biggest names for some of their biggest fights.

And he still can’t help but get excited about this one.

“This is the fight people want to see,” the 87-year-old great told journalists Tuesday during the formal welcome for Oscar De La Hoya at the MGM Grand, where on Dec. 6 the Golden Boy of the sport meets tireless Filipino boxing icon Manny Pacquiao in a fight dubbed “Dream Match.”

“People are excited because it’s going to be a great fight and both of them are great fighters,” added Dundee, who once trained legendary great Muhammad Ali. “I see a great fight, a great night of boxing. And the year will end on a good note for boxing because of this fight.”

Bob Arum, whose Top Rank is co-promoting the card, took it a step further by calling the bout the “Super Bowl of boxing.”

De La Hoya entered the MGM Hotel to strains of Mexican music and with throngs of supporters clicking away with their cameras. He ascended a makeshift boxing ring that had a gold-plated lion statue in the middle and posed for photographers who covered the event.

He was later joined by Dundee and chief trainer Nacho Beristain.

“I have all the respect for Manny Pacquiao,” said De La Hoya, flashing his trademark dimpled smile. “But this fight is a special event in itself, not just because of who my opponent is. Every time I fight, it is always a special event.”

Pacquiao, on the other hand, arrived at the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino riding in the custom-painted bus provided by Top Rank. He was joined by a large entourage that included former Manila mayor and current Environment Secretary Lito Atienza.

“I promise to do my best because Oscar De La Hoya is a great opponent,” he told a swarm of print and television journalists who greeted his arrival.

Dundee said he expects the fight to go the distance belying predictions from both camps that somebody is going to end up on the floor. De La Hoya’s camp has predicted a fifth-round knockout while Pacquiao trainer Freddie Roach said he sees the Golden Boy kissing the canvas in the ninth.

“I think it will go 12,” Dundee said. “They are both very strong and they both can take a good punch. It’s a shame these two guys will have to fight because they’re both good fighters.”

Joe Chavez, the former Pacquiao cutman now on Golden Boy’s side, predicts an abbreviated ending, basing his prediction on a logical point of view.

“[Someone’s] going away,” Chavez said. “They throw too many punches to [reach] 12 [rounds].”

Although there is no clear indication as to how the fight will turn out what with the many variables that can only be determined on fight night, one thing’s for sure: What started out as a big mismatch has slowly evened out.

“People are starting to realize that a small guy can take on a big guy and that in boxing, anything can happen,” said Golden Boy publicist Ramiro Gonzalez.

yungha
12-05-2008, 08:39 PM
pacquiao by split draw - 114-114, 115-113, 116-112.

crowd 60-40 in pac's favor. wild first round with both fighters connecting. pac connects more but odlh's punches seem to have more impact. manny moves throws a left straight, leaves himself open, gets tagged with a hard left which staggers him, gets pinned on the ropes and absorbs 2 more hard blows before escaping. in the 2nd round manny connects with his trademark left straight and it's dela hoya's turn to stagger. manny follows up with a combination but odlh doesn't go down, even taunting manny to bring it on and signalling that he doesn't feel the pinoy's vaunted power.

it's touch and go in the middle rounds with manny the busier fighter but occasionally getting tagged. manny's speed comes into play but he's wary of oscar's vaunted left. manny repeatedly connects to the head but oscar's never in danger of going down.

in the 10th manny gets tagged and again gets pinned. this time he's really wobbly and for the first time in his career, clinches and holds to survive the round.

manny recovers during the break, stays out of oscar's reach, and he and oscar split the last 2 rounds. with seconds left in the fight, manny connects on 1 last flurry, including a punch that comes after the bell that enrages oscar. both fighters raise their hands after the fight.

Schortsanitis
12-07-2008, 10:25 AM
Jacobs KOs Lares, forgot which round.

Manny is shown entering his dugout.

Schortsanitis
12-07-2008, 10:27 AM
Damn, Medina is KO'ed on the first round. 'Ala talaga si Boom Boom.'

Schortsanitis
12-07-2008, 10:34 AM
Coverage now switched to probably a previous fight, Round Four of the Lagos - Garcia fight. Am watching it on S2.

Schortsanitis
12-07-2008, 10:41 AM
Dela Hoya now shown coming into his dugout. He looks pensive, unlike Manny who looked relaxed earlier.

Round Six of the Lagos-Garcia fight.

CrossOver
12-07-2008, 10:49 AM
Boxing muna tayo sa mga hindi mkapanood ng Live sa TV heto link Live by internet
Live Stream Manny vs. Oscar (http://www.mogulus.com/onepunchdottk)

Schortsanitis
12-07-2008, 10:55 AM
Garcia-Lugos fight replay over (Garcia wins by UD), now they're showing DLH and Manny's previous fights.

Schortsanitis
12-07-2008, 11:01 AM
They're now showing the Ortiz-Resto fight.

Schortsanitis
12-07-2008, 11:17 AM
Ortiz KOs Resto in the 2nd round.

CrossOver
12-07-2008, 11:20 AM
Lakas nitong Ortiz.

Schortsanitis
12-07-2008, 11:22 AM
Shi_. *Now they're showing the Roxas-Beranza fight replay.

Schortsanitis
12-07-2008, 11:26 AM
Roach shown watching Dela Hoya having his hands taped.

Schortsanitis
12-07-2008, 11:50 AM
They're now showing the pre-fight videos.

Schortsanitis
12-07-2008, 11:57 AM
Karel for the Philippine's National Anthem. Lousy job of singing it. Missed some words, voice not that great (shakes head). Crowd cheering as Manny is shown sparring with Roach.

Schortsanitis
12-07-2008, 12:00 PM
Keesha Cole for the US National Anthem.

Schortsanitis
12-07-2008, 12:06 PM
Manny entering the ring to the tune of "We Will Rock You". Crowd goes crazy.

DLH looked VERY fit during the weigh in. Possibly bad news for Manny.

Schortsanitis
12-07-2008, 12:09 PM
Oscar entering the ring. He still looks pensive, though. Manny looked very relaxed entering the ring, smiling, waving around.

Schortsanitis
12-07-2008, 12:13 PM
Ring introductions over, start of Round 1.

Schortsanitis
12-07-2008, 12:17 PM
Manny more active on his fight, landed a couple of good punches. DLH ineffective. Manny for round 1.

Manny dominates Oscar in round 1.

Go Manny!!!

Schortsanitis
12-07-2008, 12:21 PM
Manny again for round 2. Manny too quick on his feet for Oscar.

Shi_. This could be a repeat of the Diaz-Pacquiao fight.

Schortsanitis
12-07-2008, 12:24 PM
Oscar lands some jabs and body shots, but Manny still ahead in round three. Gap closing, though.

Schortsanitis
12-07-2008, 12:28 PM
Manny again wins round 4. Roach is really smart. When he said Manny can take Oscar, he was very right.

Schortsanitis
12-07-2008, 12:32 PM
Shi_. Oscar is over. He should just retire from boxing. Manny again for Round 5.

Oscar-Manny = Diaz-Pacquiao

Schortsanitis
12-07-2008, 12:36 PM
Oscar's left eye closing. Total domination by Manny for Round 6.

Pacquiao-Hatton next.

Schortsanitis
12-07-2008, 12:41 PM
Ho-hum. Total domination again by Manny on round 7. Oscar got cornered, took a lot of punishment, legs wobbly.

Schortsanitis
12-07-2008, 12:44 PM
Manny again for round 8. What was supposed to be an exciting fight is turning out to be rout in favor or Manny.

Schortsanitis
12-07-2008, 12:46 PM
Fight stopped after the 8th round. Manny wins by TKO.

Woooohooooo!!!!

Schortsanitis
12-07-2008, 01:00 PM
Oscar trained for King Kong, but got beaten by Godzilla.

Pacquiao-Hatton ..... I hope that would be more interesting than this one.

Oscar keeps praising Manny in the post fight interview.

'Duguan na ilong ni Manny sa inglisan.' LOL

Hatton's next. Then Mayweather will Manny's last fight.

tigerman
12-07-2008, 01:02 PM
commentator during the 3rd round - "Manny's gradually reconfiguring Oscar's beautiful face."

Despite going up in weight class, Manny's speed and power were very evident during the entire duration of the match. Wow.


Congrats Manny - no doubt the best pound-for-pound boxer in the world. Oscar got pwned bigtime.

Kudos to Oscar also for graciously accepting the beating he got. He offered no excuses for the loss.



USTE LO MEJOR!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS!

Diva Lena-Lang
12-07-2008, 01:29 PM
Hi.

My post has nothing to do with patriotism. If i dont feel the man, whether he's a Filipino or any other nationality, i will not root for him. Im not a hypocrite. Just because Manny is a Filipino then automatically i will support him. We all have our choices. Sadly, Pacquiao is not my type ever since he is starting his boxing career. Im not like others who are just "sumasabay sa agos" or "everybody is rooting for this guy so why not me?" The same with our National Basketball Team competing in international competitions.

I admire Elorde because he doesnt let himself be used by "influential people". Elorde fights for his country, not for money. I also admire* Efren Reyes because he is humble and not the showbiz type.

But Manny? Sorry, hes not my type of boxer. if he wins then good for the Philippines.

So with that said............GO DELA HOYA!!!!!!!!!!!!! Beat the crap out of Manny. I can express myself freely can* i?* ;D


of course, you are free to express your opinions. you are also free to make an absolute and complete FOOL of yourself, like you just did.

pio_valenz
12-07-2008, 01:59 PM
Pacquiao just made a lot of American sportswriters look silly. I browsed a lot of the the popular sports sites and NO ONE gave Pacquiao a chance to win. Everyone said Golden Boy was too big, too long, too experienced. Congrats Manny for making them all eat crow. Saludo ako sa galing mo.

Manny was so dominating in this fight that IMHO he had a more difficult time with the post-fight interview than with the fight itself. ;D

Bring on Hatton!

tigerman
12-07-2008, 02:13 PM
What about this setup?

Marquez, then Hatton, and finally, Mayweather Jr.

Manny will retire in 2010 and probably take another shot at public office. ;D




USTE LO MEJOR!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS!

pio_valenz
12-07-2008, 02:20 PM
^Yeah, I forgot about Marquez. I'd love to see a third match, but I don't know if it's gonna happen. It would be interesting, though.

I can't understand why Dela Hoya came into the fight weighing only 147. he probably should have put on more weight. As it turned out, Pacquiao was even heavier than him so his size advantage was gone.

tigerman
12-07-2008, 02:28 PM
http://ph.news.yahoo.com/gma/20081002/tsp-golden-boy-to-pulverize-pacman-rp-so-9a97127.html

MANILA, Philippines - Unable to stop the fight between World Boxing Council lightweight champion Emmanuel "Manny" Pacquiao and superstar Oscar De La Hoya, Cagayan de Oro Representative Rufus Rodriguez predicted Pacquiao will suffer a pulverizing loss to De La Hoya this December.

Rodriguez said Pacquiao has a four-inch height disadvantage and he is going up two weight divisions after only one fight in the lightweight category to face De La Hoya.

"He is going to be pulverized there. I believe he has no chance at all. Pacquiao will be destroyed by Dela Hoya," Rodriguez said in an article posted on the House of Representatives website.

During the budget hearing of the Games and Amusement Board (GAB), Rodriguez said the fight with De La Hoya is something Pacquiao should not take considering their disparity in size.

He added this is also the only fight of Pacquiao in which he can say with all honesty that commercialism should stop.

"The way I see it, this is only money for Manny Pacquiao," Rodriguez said.

During the hearing, GAB chairman Eric Buhain said the board made a resolution stating its position against the fight, when it learned of the fight scheduled in December.

Buhain said the resolution was sent to the management of Pacquiao and even the international boxing bodies like the WBC, WBA, IBF and WBO.

"Alam po naman natin Pacquiao is a national treasure and we want to ensure his safety," Buhain said.

But Buhain said there is no way the GAB can stop the fight especially since it will be held in the United States.

The Nevada Boxing Commission has also allowed the fight to push through, Buhain said. - GMANews.TV



I wonder where's Rufus Rodriguez right now? :o



USTE LO MEJOR!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS!

tigerman
12-07-2008, 02:32 PM
^Yeah, I forgot about Marquez. I'd love to see a third match, but I don't know if it's gonna happen. It would be interesting, though.


The only question here is: who will give in to each other's demand?

I don't see Manny going back to the super featherweight. Lightweight is slightly possible. But I think he's more comfortable now around the 135-147 lbs. range. As for Marquez, will he allow himself to go up in weight? AFAIK, he hasn't fought beyond the lightweight class.




USTE LO MEJOR!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS!

pio_valenz
12-07-2008, 02:48 PM
^I don't think Manny is gonna go back down to 135. If JMM wants him, it's gonna be at 140. IMHO kaya ni JMM na umangat to 140. He looked pretty comfortable beating Casamayor at 135 so he should be able to move up.

The_Big_Cat
12-07-2008, 03:05 PM
It's a good thing all the cable operators here in GENSAN showed the bout for free.* ;D

Manny began the fight with an astonishing right hook that hit the right eye of Oscar.
Manny was just too fast and too quick for Oscar. His lateral and evasiveness ruined Oscar's gameplan.
Isama mo pa diyan yung power punches ni Manny that staggered Oscar for most of the time.
Kung si De La Hoya naman ang makatama, para lang kinagat ng lamok si Manny.* ;D

I don't like Manny fighting Marquez again. Wala ng papatunayan pa si Manny kay Marquez dahil apat na beses ng pinatumba ni Manny si Marquez.

For me its going to be either Valero or Hatton.

But promoters are leaning for a Pacquiao-Hatton because of the money that will be generated from that bout.

My God! Manny will at least pocket* US$ 20M.

tigerman
12-07-2008, 03:12 PM
Before the match, Michael Buffer introduced Manny as "former super featherweight champ".

Wala na ba kay Manny yung belt na yun?




USTE LO MEJOR!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS!

CrossOver
12-07-2008, 03:21 PM
nakow mukang na overspeed ni Manny si Oscar GZ to our Pambansang Kamao
to Oscar kelangan mo ng mag retire.

Dark Knight
12-07-2008, 03:43 PM
Hi.

My post has nothing to do with patriotism. If i dont feel the man, whether he's a Filipino or any other nationality, i will not root for him. Im not a hypocrite. Just because Manny is a Filipino then automatically i will support him. We all have our choices. Sadly, Pacquiao is not my type ever since he is starting his boxing career. Im not like others who are just "sumasabay sa agos" or "everybody is rooting for this guy so why not me?" The same with our National Basketball Team competing in international competitions.

I admire Elorde because he doesnt let himself be used by "influential people". Elorde fights for his country, not for money. I also admire* Efren Reyes because he is humble and not the showbiz type.

But Manny? Sorry, hes not my type of boxer. if he wins then good for the Philippines.

So with that said............GO DELA HOYA!!!!!!!!!!!!! Beat the crap out of Manny. I can express myself freely can* i?* ;D


of course, you are free to express your opinions. you are also free to make an absolute and complete FOOL of yourself, like you just did.


And you are? Another one goin with he flow? grow up............

Dark Knight
12-07-2008, 03:50 PM
Oscar has proven enough. Is just a pity he fought Manny at the twilight of his career. Lets turn back time then.

The_Big_Cat
12-07-2008, 03:52 PM
Before the match, Michael Buffer introduced Manny as "former super featherweight champ".

Wala na ba kay Manny yung belt na yun?




USTE LO MEJOR!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS!

After winning the WBC Lightweight belt from David Diaz, Manny had to give up the WBC Super Featherweight belt.

Kid Cubao
12-07-2008, 03:55 PM
congrats to manny for having proved his naysayers wrong, including a certain moron congressman who's not even an expert on legislation ;D

what's next for manny? bring on hatton or JMM.

tigerman
12-07-2008, 03:57 PM
Oscar has proven enough. Is just a pity he fought Manny at the twilight of his career. Lets turn back time then.


So you mean to say if Manny and Oscar fought during the latter's prime, Manny will have no chance in hell whatsoever? I understand your right to express your dislike for Manny but you have to give credit where credit is due.



USTE LO MEJOR!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS!

The_Big_Cat
12-07-2008, 04:01 PM
Would you believe pati mga Malls dito, sarado ang operations in the morning para makapanuod ng boxing ang employees nila. They resumed operations in the afternoon.

tigerman
12-07-2008, 04:03 PM
Before the match, Michael Buffer introduced Manny as "former super featherweight champ".

Wala na ba kay Manny yung belt na yun?




USTE LO MEJOR!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS!

After winning the WBC Lightweight belt from David Diaz, Manny had to give up the WBC Super Featherweight belt.


Ok thanks. But is that really a rule?

So the WBC super featherweight belt is vacant at the moment?



USTE LO MEJOR!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS!

The_Big_Cat
12-07-2008, 04:06 PM
Ok thanks. But is that really a rule?

So the WBC super featherweight belt is vacant at the moment?

USTE LO MEJOR!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS!

It was in the news then. Pinapili ng WBC si Manny kung anong belt ang i-retain niya at kung ano ang i-give up niya.

Diva Lena-Lang
12-07-2008, 04:22 PM
Oscar has proven enough. Is just a pity he fought Manny at the twilight of his career. Lets turn back time then.

ah, the time machine retort. the last refuge for those who have run out of arguments.

also, if oscar "has proven enough," then why "pity?" oscar has never asked for pity from anyone, so why bother?

sige magpamalas ka pa ng pagka-talangka mo sa tagumpay ng kapwa pilipino.

Dark Knight
12-07-2008, 04:41 PM
Oscar has proven enough. Is just a pity he fought Manny at the twilight of his career. Lets turn back time then.

ah, the time machine retort. the last refuge for those who have run out of arguments.

also, if oscar "has proven enough," then why "pity?" oscar has never asked for pity from anyone, so why bother?

sige magpamalas ka pa ng pagka-talangka mo sa tagumpay ng kapwa pilipino.


No,im not arguing. I did no say Manny is not a good boxer. I just dont like him, plain and simple. Even if he wins the cruiserweight division. Dont you get it? Or do i have to spell it out for you?

Have you expressly supported those infamous no name filipino boxers trying very desperately to break the big scene, or youre supporting Manny because hes arleady famous?

If you are really supporting filipino boxers,name ten amateurs and endose them here. Or youre the one with talangka.

Use the internet. ............and grow up.

Kid Cubao
12-07-2008, 04:51 PM
cool it, guys, before we turn this into a flame war.

Dark Knight
12-07-2008, 05:01 PM
cool it, guys, before we turn this into a flame war.


Ill heed youre call sir.

Congrats to Manny. Mabuhay ang Sambayanang Pilipino.

yungha
12-07-2008, 06:42 PM
Pacquiao just made a lot of American sportswriters look silly. I browsed a lot of the the popular sports sites and NO ONE gave Pacquiao a chance to win. Everyone said Golden Boy was too big, too long, too experienced. Congrats Manny for making them all eat crow. Saludo ako sa galing mo.


Jose Nunez (manager of Joan Guzman) - De La Hoya is going to whip that a$$.

Floyd Mayweather Sr. (trainer) –Oscar going to beat the dog shit out of Pacquiao. You know who the hell I got. Oscar is going to rearrange his f_cking face man, believe me. Oscar is going to turn him over man. He's going to turn him all the way over.

the legendary Emmanel Steward - The odds would have to favor Oscar because he’s the bigger man and he’s not slow

Bernard "The Executioner" Hopkins - This is one of the greatest fights ever and Oscar’s going to knock Manny out in the seventh or eighth round

Marco Antonio Barrera - the only thing that will happy be is there pockets, it is a circus..

Graham Houston (Boxing News) - After a fast-paced, exciting first seven or eight rounds, I think that De La Hoya will start to dominate proceedings and overpower Pacquiao with a barrage of punches in or around the 10th round

one of the stupidest comments was from Steve Forbes, a nobody who was odlh's last opponent before manny - Oscar is too big for him. Manny is a great fighter but he doesn’t fight anything like me. He darts in and out. I’m a slick defensive fighter.

German Villasenor of Maxboxing.com - Obviously it’s just about the money. It’s just about the money. Oscar is too big for Pacquiao. Pacquiao is good but he can’t hurt Oscar.

predictions by various columnists -

Brad Cooney (boxing herald, 8rounds.com) - Oscar by 8th round TKO

David Avila, Riverside Press-Enterprise -- De La Hoya by TKO 7

Ron Borges, Boston Herald -- De La Hoya by TKO 9

Nick Cafardo, Boston Globe -- Pacquiao by TKO 8

Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review-Journal -- De La Hoya by TKO 9

Tim Dahlberg, Associated Press -- De La Hoya by decision

Bill Dwyre, Los Angeles Times -- Pacquiao by decision

Doug Fischer, TheRing-online.com -- De La Hoya by decision

Norm Frauenheim, Arizona Republic -- De La Hoya by TKO 7

Ed Graney, Las Vegas Review-Journal -- Pacquiao by decision

Paul Gutierrez, Sacramento Bee -- De La Hoya by KO 7

Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports -- De La Hoya by TKO 6

Mark Kriegel, Foxsports.com -- De La Hoya by TKO 9

Chris Maathuis, KLAS-TV -- De La Hoya by decision

Robert Morales, Los Angeles Daily News -- De La Hoya by TKO 7

Lance Pugmire, Los Angeles Times -- De La Hoya by TKO 9

Dave Cokin, ESPNRadio1100 -- Pacquiao by decision

Dan Rafael, ESPN.com -- De La Hoya by TKO 7

Mike Rosenthal, TheRing-online.com -- De La Hoya by KO 10

Tim Smith, New York Daily News -- De La Hoya by KO 3

John Whisler, San Antonio Express-News -- De La Hoya by TKO 8

George Willis, New York Post -- De La Hoya by TKO 10

mighty_lion
12-07-2008, 06:47 PM
Seriously, Manny fights better when he is the underdog than he is the one with upperhand. As one of those who have been watching Pacman since his blow-by-blow days, this is got to be the highest milestone he has ever had.

Roach is the difference maker here. Roach's knowledge of Dela Hoya's physical condition, strengths and weaknesses was all out there from round 1 to round 8. Dela Hoya's came into the game hoping he could land his infamous left jab on Pacquiao. Pacquiao is just too quick for Dela Hoya and Roach's strategy of single punch then let Dela Hoya wonder where to hit is overly frustrating. That was the story of the day indeed.

sa_pula
12-07-2008, 06:51 PM
Hanggang ngayon oras wala pang lumalabas na article sa internet (maliban sa pilipinas)..karamihan kasi sa mga writers napahiya ;D ;D

Regular Grey
12-07-2008, 06:57 PM
cool it, guys, before we turn this into a flame war.


Ill heed youre call sir.

Congrats to Manny. Mabuhay ang Sambayanang Pilipino.



Mabuti naman. Baka kasi di agad nakarating ang NEws, Pacquiao Beat the hell out of De La Hoya!!!

pio_valenz
12-07-2008, 09:43 PM
Pacquiao just made a lot of American sportswriters look silly. I browsed a lot of the the popular sports sites and NO ONE gave Pacquiao a chance to win. Everyone said Golden Boy was too big, too long, too experienced. Congrats Manny for making them all eat crow. Saludo ako sa galing mo.


Jose Nunez (manager of Joan Guzman) - De La Hoya is going to whip that a$$.

Floyd Mayweather Sr. (trainer) –Oscar going to beat the dog shit out of Pacquiao. You know who the hell I got. Oscar is going to rearrange his f_cking face man, believe me. Oscar is going to turn him over man. He's going to turn him all the way over.

the legendary Emmanel Steward - The odds would have to favor Oscar because he’s the bigger man and he’s not slow

Bernard "The Executioner" Hopkins - This is one of the greatest fights ever and Oscar’s going to knock Manny out in the seventh or eighth round

Marco Antonio Barrera - the only thing that will happy be is there pockets, it is a circus..

Graham Houston (Boxing News) - After a fast-paced, exciting first seven or eight rounds, I think that De La Hoya will start to dominate proceedings and overpower Pacquiao with a barrage of punches in or around the 10th round

one of the stupidest comments was from Steve Forbes, a nobody who was odlh's last opponent before manny - Oscar is too big for him. Manny is a great fighter but he doesn’t fight anything like me. He darts in and out. I’m a slick defensive fighter.

German Villasenor of Maxboxing.com - Obviously it’s just about the money. It’s just about the money. Oscar is too big for Pacquiao. Pacquiao is good but he can’t hurt Oscar.

predictions by various columnists -

Brad Cooney (boxing herald, 8rounds.com) - Oscar by 8th round TKO

David Avila, Riverside Press-Enterprise -- De La Hoya by TKO 7

Ron Borges, Boston Herald -- De La Hoya by TKO 9

Nick Cafardo, Boston Globe -- Pacquiao by TKO 8

Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review-Journal -- De La Hoya by TKO 9

Tim Dahlberg, Associated Press -- De La Hoya by decision

Bill Dwyre, Los Angeles Times -- Pacquiao by decision

Doug Fischer, TheRing-online.com -- De La Hoya by decision

Norm Frauenheim, Arizona Republic -- De La Hoya by TKO 7

Ed Graney, Las Vegas Review-Journal -- Pacquiao by decision

Paul Gutierrez, Sacramento Bee -- De La Hoya by KO 7

Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports -- De La Hoya by TKO 6

Mark Kriegel, Foxsports.com -- De La Hoya by TKO 9

Chris Maathuis, KLAS-TV -- De La Hoya by decision

Robert Morales, Los Angeles Daily News -- De La Hoya by TKO 7

Lance Pugmire, Los Angeles Times -- De La Hoya by TKO 9

Dave Cokin, ESPNRadio1100 -- Pacquiao by decision

Dan Rafael, ESPN.com -- De La Hoya by TKO 7

Mike Rosenthal, TheRing-online.com -- De La Hoya by KO 10

Tim Smith, New York Daily News -- De La Hoya by KO 3

John Whisler, San Antonio Express-News -- De La Hoya by TKO 8

George Willis, New York Post -- De La Hoya by TKO 10






Okay, I stand corrected. Four guys predicted Manny would win.* :D Hey, that Nick Cafardo guy from the Boston Globe looks like a genius now.

I was impressed by Manny's counter-punching. It was as good as I've ever seen it. And I agree with mighty lion, and not only because I love his old avatar. Roach was the difference here. He came up with the correct game plan for Pacman. In contrast, ODLH just didn't know what to do.

lurkinggood
12-07-2008, 11:28 PM
Oscar trained for King Kong, but got beaten by Godzilla.*

Pacquiao-Hatton ..... I hope that would be more interesting than this one.

Oscar keeps praising Manny in the post fight interview.

'Duguan na ilong ni Manny sa inglisan.' LOL

Hatton's next.* Then Mayweather will Manny's last fight.*



Ahehehe....;D Dito lang sya dinugo, post fight pa...

Schortsanitis
12-08-2008, 12:08 AM
With megastars like Ricky Hatton and possibly Floyd Mayweather Jr. lined up for Manny now, I feel the ONLY way Juan Manuel Marquez can line up a third fight against Manny is for him to beat David Diaz.

If he beats Diaz, then he can say he is at least as good as Manny, diluting Manny's achievement against Diaz, and therefore deserves another shot at The Pacman.

Jaco D
12-08-2008, 02:09 AM
And I agree with mighty lion, and not only because I love his old avatar.


Bago na?* NO!!!!!!!!!!!

;D

Seriously, Marquez should just quit wasting people's time. He could have made hay when the sun was still out but opted to go with bone-headed fights and career decisions. A third fight, win or lose, with Paks will not fix those lost years. Sorry dude, awat na.

mighty_lion
12-08-2008, 08:13 AM
Mahirap na malamig ngayon. Baka mangalabit kayo bigla pag-uwi. :D

tigerman
12-08-2008, 06:25 PM
Wow a lot of the so-called boxing experts got PWNED by Manny all by himself. ;D



USTE LO MEJOR!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS!

tigerman
12-08-2008, 07:12 PM
Wow a lot of the so-called boxing experts got PWNED by Manny all by himself.* ;D

USTE LO MEJOR!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS!


I read in another forum that Ronnie Nathanielz, a naturalized Filipino, was quoted as saying "I'm gonna eat paper if Manny wins."

O boy I'd love to see him fulfill that promise. ;)


USTE LO MEJOR!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS!

yungha
12-08-2008, 10:48 PM
check out the forums at eastsideboxing.com. prior to the fight there were around 20 threads about the dream match with practically every poster except for pinoys predicting a KO or TKO win for oscar. even the moderators were disparaging towards pac. after the fight all those threads disappeared. tapos di na nag-post yung mga maangas. ang yayabang kasi. pero in fairness marami ring kups na pinoy posters dun.

yungha
12-09-2008, 02:09 PM
Oscar has proven enough. Is just a pity he fought Manny at the twilight of his career. Lets turn back time then.


it's his fault that he can't pull the trigger at 35. with advances in health, fitness, training, sports technology not to mention boxing safety standards, one should be able to fight at a high level even in one's late 30s or early 40s. if oscar had trained harder or stayed disciplined, age wouldn't have been an excuse. tamad na kasi mag-train that's why he was so out of shape and his reflexes were so slow. in contrast, take a look at pound-for-pound #2 juan manuel marquez (35), triple world champion Nate Campbell (36), The Ring lightheavyweight and pound-for-pound #3 Joe Calzaghe (36), world heavyweight champ Vitali Klitschko (37), world heavyweight champ nikolai valuev (35), #1 contender Bernard Hopkins (43), world champ Gerry Penalosa (36), world champ cassius baloyi (34), world cruiserweight champ guillermo jones (36), #2 jr middleweight contender sugar shane mosley (37), etc.

if these old guys can still fight at an elite level why can't oscar. this just proves that being 35 is not and should not be an excuse for losing.

coreytaylor
12-09-2008, 03:31 PM
Bernard "The Executioner" Hopkins - This is one of the greatest fights ever and Oscar’s going to knock Manny out in the seventh or eighth round


He also said: I'm going to teach The Pacman boxing lessons.

PAWNED!* ;D

pio_valenz
12-09-2008, 03:48 PM
On another note, I wish next time they finally get someone who won't be starstruck by Vegas' glittering lights to sing our national anthem. Karylle is pretty and all, but she had a tougher night in the ring than Manny.

tigerman
12-09-2008, 05:53 PM
My guess is that Dingdong's presence affected her. ;D

Please lang huwag si Christian Bautista.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wbr3zTqXKmY


USTE LO MEJOR!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS!

JonarSabilano
12-09-2008, 06:02 PM
May mas olats pa diyan. Si Jennifer Bautista yata yun. Complete with piyok, MIDI file na pang-Magic Sing, at sigaw ng "Mabuhay ang Pilipinas!".

Dark Knight
12-09-2008, 07:15 PM
Oscar has proven enough. Is just a pity he fought Manny at the twilight of his career. Lets turn back time then.


it's his fault that he can't pull the trigger at 35. with advances in health, fitness, training, sports technology not to mention boxing safety standards, one should be able to fight at a high level even in one's late 30s or early 40s. if oscar had trained harder or stayed disciplined, age wouldn't have been an excuse. tamad na kasi mag-train that's why he was so out of shape and his reflexes were so slow. in contrast, take a look at pound-for-pound #2 juan manuel marquez (35), triple world champion Nate Campbell (36), The Ring lightheavyweight and pound-for-pound #3 Joe Calzaghe (36), world heavyweight champ Vitali Klitschko (37), world heavyweight champ nikolai valuev (35), #1 contender Bernard Hopkins (43), world champ Gerry Penalosa (36), world champ cassius baloyi (34), world cruiserweight champ guillermo jones (36), #2 jr middleweight contender sugar shane mosley (37), etc.

if these old guys can still fight at an elite level why can't oscar. this just proves that being 35 is not and should not be an excuse for losing.


You have a valid point there sir. If Manny is still champion by age 35, (that is if he doesnt retire early), then ill have a tapir for pet . ;)

mighty_lion
12-09-2008, 07:23 PM
Is it just me but I noticed how financial crisis impacted the US economy when I saw the lady singing the US national anthem. May shortage na rin pati sa tela ang US. *







Lahat ng nasa sinehan hindi sa mukha nakatingin. LOL. ;D

blueatheart
12-09-2008, 09:12 PM
mighty,

gagawin mo rin bang avatar un? ;D

yungha
12-09-2008, 09:46 PM
...

...

You have a valid point there sir. If Manny is still champion by age 35, (that is if he doesnt retire early), then ill have a tapir for pet .* ;)*


i'd be happy with 2 more years of pacman then he should retire at 32. he's turning 30 and he's already logged 53 fights. that's a lot of hits he's taken. i don't want him ending up like those former great champions with serious health issues.

mighty_lion
12-10-2008, 08:39 AM
mighty,

gagawin mo rin bang avatar un?* ;D


mahirap hanapin yun. ;D

mangtsito
12-10-2008, 07:10 PM
Like Dark Knight, I wanted Manny to lose this one just to bring him down to earth. Unlike DK however, I think Manny has an excellent system of which the punching strength is only one part. Hindi na siya bara-bara gaya ng dati.

What can I say? He's such a great fighter. :) If he's going to be beaten it's not going to happen anytime soon.

easter
12-11-2008, 09:46 AM
Have you expressly supported those infamous no name filipino boxers trying very desperately to break the big scene, or youre supporting Manny because hes arleady famous?

If you are really supporting filipino boxers,name ten amateurs and endose them here. Or youre the one with talangka.

Use the internet. ............and grow up.


I understand your concern Dark Knight. But the problem is that you have got to win first to get the support. Inversely, some will argue, how can you win without support? It's like a chicken and egg thing for amateur boxers.

But Manny also rose from the ranks before he got the support he has now. Remember those Blow by Blow days and his debacle in defending the crown in Thailand? Halos wala pang suporta nun but he just kept on winning and winning after that.

Kid Cubao
12-11-2008, 10:45 AM
maraming tayong up and coming boxers. some are already world champs, like flyweight nonito donaire. at the same time, as yungha and pio valenz sharply observed in another boxing thread, some of these upstarts had an underwhelming 2008 by performing below expectations. but these guys are still young, time is on their side, and they would surely improve if they train under better coaches like, who else?, freddie roach.

yungha
12-11-2008, 11:40 AM
ako naman i'm a boxing fan plain and simple. i love good fights, i love good fighters whether they're pinoy, puerto rican, mexican, panamanian or american. i'd love to see boom boom win a world title but how can we win with his technique or lack thereof. sugod nang sugod wala namang lead punch and his head's always wide open. how can he expect to win against say juan manuel lopez. he'll get KO'd inside of 3 rounds. ditto with gorres, a better technical boxer than montiel, darchinyan, mijares and arce but he fades in the late rounds.

as for amateur boxing, i would also love more gold medals but how can they win when they fight pro style and gun for a knockout? in amateur boxing a KO counts for only 1 point, same as a well-placed jab. walang pinagbago and there's been no improvement in our amateur boxers' style for the past 2 decades. meanwhile the chinese and the brits have been winning olympic medals even though our fighters our better skilled than theirs. we all support our amateur boxers but you have to admit we sometimes look like idiots in foreign competitions, gunning for KO's, concentrating on body shots when it's the head shots that count, getting peppered with jabs, then claiming we were cheated. maybe with MVP at the hlm of the ABAP things will change and now we can't use lack of support as an excuse.

yes there's plenty of bandwagon support for pacquiao because it's fashionable but hardcore boxing fans love him as well because he's shown improvement in technique in becoming a complete boxer and not just a slugger, he's not afraid to take on bigger and stronger opponents and he's an old school-type pugilist who makes a brawl out of all his fights unlike mayweather or dela hoya who are content to win on pts.

pio_valenz
12-11-2008, 01:42 PM
Ako din. I'm a boxing fan first and foremost. Even if I weren't Pinoy, I'd still cheer for Pacquiao. I follow the exploits of other boxers as well, both pro and amateur, but it's not my fault that Pacquiao has given us the biggest reason to cheer all these years.

I also don't get why Pacquiao is perceived to be arrogant. In the US, he has a reputation for being one of the most approachable and affable fighers around. Unlike other boxers, he also doesn't talk big or shoot his mouth off against his opponent. In fact, if it weren't for his penchant for mangling the English language, his interviews are always pretty boring. He says the same things over and over again about fighting for his country, about doing his best, about how he respects his opponent. How this can be labeled as arrogant is beyond me. And not too much is being written about the foundations he has set up in Mindanao to help the needy.

Gusto niyo ng mayabang talaga? Look how Juan Manuel Marquez snubbed Manny's gesture for a hug at the end of their second bout. Then he has the gall to come over here to the Philippines and insult Pacquiao in front of us Pinoys. Or how the Golden Boy sent over a handwritten note to Manny during training camp, claiming he was gonna knock Pacquiao out. So to both JMM and ODLH, screw you both. Tanggal ang yabang niyo.

I couldn't care less if Pacman wants to launch a singing and acting career, or if he's known to bet heavily at times. It's his life and his money. Basta ang sa akin, I enjoy watching him fight because he really is a world-class boxing talent. And I also admire how he rose from poverty and never gave up. Those are the traits worth emulating. Mayabang? I don't think so.

aircanda
12-11-2008, 03:22 PM
suportahan na lang naten si Manny.. ;D kahit mayabang siya o hinde, nakapagbigay dangal naman sa ating bayan.. ika nga, count our blessings, not our misfortunes!!

bchoter
12-11-2008, 03:26 PM
I, too, don't get where the perception of arrogance comes from. When the Puyat bowling lanes and billiards hall was still there I use to see Paquiao play billiards against top flight players (Bata, Django, the arrogant American, etc.) and never have I seen him act arrogant or even raise his voice. In fact I remember him to be very polite to a fault. He would let peobefore hitting his shot even if he was already set up to make a shot. Good thing the crowd at Puyat are not the autograph seeking types but it does get crowded at times and he was always all smiles. One you'd notice is his competitive nature feeling like he could beat billiards world's best (of course his opponents give him the usual "partida").

The_Big_Cat
12-11-2008, 03:52 PM
Gusto niyo ng mayabang talaga? Look how Juan Manuel Marquez snubbed Manny's gesture for a hug at the end of their second bout. Then he has the gall to come over here to the Philippines and insult Pacquiao in front of us Pinoys. Or how the Golden Boy sent over a handwritten note to Manny during training camp, claiming he was gonna knock Pacquiao out. So to both JMM and ODLH, screw you both. Tanggal ang yabang niyo.


I remember how Marquez snubbed Pacquiao after that rematch. Look now at how Marquez is begging Pacquiao for a 3rd match.

Wait till Pacquiao gets home in GENSAN. Mamimigay ulit ng pera yan ngayon XMAS. Siguradong mas mahaba ngayon ang pila sa labas ng mansion niya.

MonL
12-11-2008, 04:25 PM
Manny has arguably one of the most intimidating scowls in the business. When he puts on his gameface, total warfare follows.

On the other hand he is also equipped with what is known as a "disarming smile." When he flashes his grin, he reminds me of the Cheshire Cat in "Alice's Adventures In Wonderland," wherein the cat slowly disappears, beginning with the tail, and ending with the grin, which stayed on somewhat after a time. ;D

bchoter
12-11-2008, 04:40 PM
Call me gullible but I also feel that his being religious is not a put on the same with his humility

MonL
12-11-2008, 04:41 PM
Unlike other boxers, he also doesn't talk big or shoot his mouth off against his opponent. In fact, if it weren't for his penchant for mangling the English language, his interviews are always pretty boring. He says the same things over and over again about fighting for his country, about doing his best, about how he respects his opponent.

Gusto niyo ng mayabang talaga?* Or how the Golden Boy sent over a handwritten note to Manny during training camp, claiming he was gonna knock Pacquiao out. So to both JMM and ODLH, screw you both. Tanggal ang yabang niyo.


I guess Oscar failed to realize that you don't give opponents additional motivation not just to fight you but to destroy you. Specially one who's not afraid of you.* Hayun. Isinaksak pablik ni Manny sa baga ni Oscar yung note niya.

With all due respect.* ;D

yungha
12-11-2008, 05:31 PM
and at a time when boxing's becoming more of entertainment than a sweet science, manny continues to entertain not thru sideshows but thru actual substance. compare that to naseem hamed who'd enter the ring on a flying carpet or jorge arce atop a horse.

as for boorish behavior, how about-

- mayweather throwing us$100 bills at the press to show how much money he has, also charged with domestic battery for hitting his girlfriend
- naseem hamed spitting at a fan who asked for his autograph
- amir khan beating someone up at a nightclub
- bernard hopkins preaching religion yet fathering children out of extramarital affairs
- zab judah attacking ref jay nady (funny actually)
- four-time world champ pernell "sweetpea" whitaker jailed for cocaine possession and drunk driving
- mike tyson being mike tyson
- morales sucker-punching barrera at a presscon
- riddick bowe jailed for kidnapping and rape
- trevor berbick jailed for burglary
- tony ayala jailed for rape

then you see all these fighters driving around in flashy cars, going out with women left and right, throwing money away, going to wild parties and brawling. manny's not a saint but he's a role model compared to other similar high-profile boxers.

Kid Cubao
12-11-2008, 06:34 PM
the best thing about manny pacquiao is that he has never ducked from a challenge, the most recent example being this fight against oscar de la hoya. truth be told, when this dream match was first announced, i remember catching myself muttering "is pacquiao out of his mind?!?"

which brings me to the most acute problem in today's boxing world: marami ang nag-iiwasan sa summit bouts, kaya tuloy halos walang nababalitaang unification title fights. that's the reason why ring magazine issues its own "people's champ," kasi nga they're fed up with the way titleholders from the alphabet soup of boxing organizations have been ducking their worthiest challengers. but not manny. he will fight all comers. now he is setting his sights on ricky hatton's light welterweight crown. let's see if the brawler from manchester will actually agree despite his earlier pronouncements.

even edwin valero toned down his own bombast after manny pummeled david diaz's face to the consistency of raw tocino ;D

easter
12-11-2008, 08:20 PM
the best thing about manny pacquiao is that he has never ducked from a challenge, the most recent example being this fight against oscar de la hoya. truth be told, when this dream match was first announced, i remember catching myself muttering "is pacquiao out of his mind?!?"


This is what actually sets apart Pacquiao from the likes of other legends and P4P kings like DelaHoya, Mayweather and Roy Jones. With all these three you can hear complaints that they avoided certain opponents that were a threat to them. But with Pacquiao at the height of being the P4P king, he took on a fight (vs .Oscar) believed by experts as both dangerous and foolish.

yungha
12-11-2008, 09:06 PM
to indicate how pacquiao is regarded by hardcore boxing fans like the brits, check out this thread in ricky hatton's site-

http://78.110.162.82/forum/index.php?topic=8320.0

brit fighters are known to be rugged, aggressive brawlers. no such thing as finesse boxing or gunning for a win on points when you fight in england. i guess that's why they think of manny that way.

pio_valenz
12-11-2008, 10:29 PM
^Nice. As a Filipino, nakakataba ng puso. :)

blueatheart
12-11-2008, 11:35 PM
I, too, don't get where the perception of arrogance comes from. When the Puyat bowling lanes and billiards hall was still there I use to see Paquiao play billiards against top flight players (Bata, Django, the arrogant American, etc.) and never have I seen him act arrogant or even raise his voice. In fact I remember him to be very polite to a fault. He would let peobefore hitting his shot even if he was already set up to make a shot. Good thing the crowd at Puyat are not the autograph seeking types but it does get crowded at times and he was always all smiles. One you'd notice is his competitive nature feeling like he could beat billiards world's best (of course his opponents give him the usual "partida").


Puyat lanes? The one they used to call Coronado Lanes? I used to play billiards there. I remember seeing him play against Luat and other players. Bata would usually, at least when I'm there, play chess along with Django and the other old people there. I remember one of the workers told me that Manny usually bets when he plays and when he plays, he normally loses money. :D

mangtsito
12-12-2008, 12:23 AM
Basta ang masasabi ko lang, "Don't tell God you have a big problem....Tell your problem you have a big God." :D

mighty_lion
12-12-2008, 01:00 PM
Ang huling naalala kolang nagsalita ng medyo arrogante si Pacman eh yun kay Joan Valero saying something like ... mga tricycle driver yong mga ni-KO ni Valero. But even in that instance, Pacman is saying the truth and just returning Valero's cheap shots to Manny. And given his recent and past accomplishments he has the right to say so.

BigBlue
12-12-2008, 01:31 PM
IMO, the arrogance does not come from Manny himself, but from the people who surround him, and in some cases, cash in on his fame. Mga langaw na nakasampa sa kalabaw. From politicos to his so-called "buddies" who negotiate on his behalf for endorsement deals. syempre, kasama na din dyan yung pagbuyo sa kanya na tumakbo as congressman.

bchoter
12-12-2008, 03:07 PM
Puyat lanes?* The one they used to call Coronado Lanes?* I used to play billiards there.* I remember seeing him play against Luat and other players.* Bata would usually, at least when I'm there, play chess along with Django and the other old people there.* I remember one of the workers told me that Manny usually bets when he plays and when he plays, he normally loses money.* :D
You're right, Coronado it is :D. And yes, Manny loses in 6 digits. Since he considers Coronado home you hardly see him with poses. His wife just sits with a friend or two and watches (or guards against other girls perhaps?) intently.

BigBlue, one of the guys closest to him in the states, Winchell Campos, is a Thomasian. Unfortunately, hes rubbed some of Paquiao's friends the wrong way as reports of conflicts between Winchell and the others have found its way in the papers.

jones_c
12-12-2008, 03:29 PM
Sadly, im not a Pacquiao fan. I root for every Pacman's opponent but they all lost...............or now. I want Pacman to lose bigtime this time. He has no system in his attacks and just relying on his strong punch. Kumbaga eh, tira ng tira kahit tamaan. Too aggressive.

Nyahaha basta lang kasi maka kontra. Hahaha.

easter
12-12-2008, 07:15 PM
Everything we've heard about the reason why Oscar lost came from those people who were from outside his training camp. Now we have one from Nacho Bernstein, the trainer himself. In the end two things came out from* him.

a. That Oscar didn't follow instructions.
b. And that Pacquiao was simply tremendous and versatile and Oscar has no answer.* 8)

Oscar was in great shape, no weight and no nutrition problem at all.

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=17438

Kid Cubao
12-13-2008, 05:11 PM
when you get down to it, there's a simple explanation really: pacquaio can hit ODLH at will, while ODLH can't connect at all. and in that fight, pacquaio can take ODLH's power punches, while ODLH can't. in fact, he couldn't power punch manny if at all, because of the first reason.

ang tagal naman ng salpukan ni hatton at pacquiao ;D

another thing: why do i get this feeling that floyd mayweather jr will duck manny?

blueatheart
12-13-2008, 08:21 PM
Maybe because he ducked all the good fighters? :D Just look at Cotto and Margarito

Kid Cubao
12-14-2008, 08:12 AM
yes, i agree. add to that his desire to keep his unbeaten career record intact. talagang si hatton na nga ang susunod.

aircanda
12-14-2008, 01:51 PM
On another note, I wish next time they finally get someone who won't be starstruck by Vegas' glittering lights to sing our national anthem. Karylle is pretty and all, but she had a tougher night in the ring than Manny.


sir, di nio ba napapansin? pag may sablay na kumakanta.. bwenas si pacman.. tulad ng laban nia kay morales ;D

abcdef
12-14-2008, 02:32 PM
^ Si Christian Bautista na ba ang next singer ng national anthem sa laban ni pacquiao?hehehe! ;D ::)

blueatheart
12-14-2008, 04:33 PM
Ibang level naman ang paga-sablay ni Christian Bautista ;D

Siya ung nakalimot ng ilang lines diba? :D

yungha
01-19-2009, 12:43 AM
say what you want about the Golden Girl Boy quitting on his stool against manny, but oscar has fought no less than 7 fighters who, at the time of their fight, was ranked #1 pound for pound in the world -

mexican legend julio cesar chavez (win tko 4, win tko 8 )
pernell whitaker (win UD)
felix "tito" trinidad (loss MD)
sugar shane mosley (loss SD, loss UD)
bernard hopkins (loss KO 9)
floyd mayweather (loss SD)
manny pacquiao (loss TKO 8 )

so he's fought 9 fights against the best in the world, winning 3 and losing 6. his losses to tito, floyd and his 2 losses to mosley were close and controversial and he really could have won all of those fights. hopkins was just too big for him as he fell with a single hard body shot. so his only clear losses against this elite group are against manny and hopkins. so this puts into perspective how huge manny's win against oscar was.