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mighty_lion
09-14-2008, 07:30 PM
Discuss.

bloksterism
09-14-2008, 08:12 PM
DLSU transforms into a different team come final 4/championship time. despite our 13-1 record, coach franz has coach norman's number in the UAAP in terms of games that mattered.

i wanna see how james mangahas would perform against the bigs of the blue eagles.

this is also rabeh's final test.

but still, go ateneo. ;D

bchoter
09-14-2008, 09:24 PM
Smart money is on the Eagles. Throw everything out of the window daw in La Salle-Ateneo game. Moreso because this is the finals. This should be a close one. I'm betting on the Eagles in 2 close games.

tsikamajigs
09-14-2008, 10:11 PM
2002 - Ateneo won a PBL championship and went all the way in the UAAP.
2008- Ateneo won the Nike Summer League. Will they go all the way?

tigerman
09-14-2008, 10:34 PM
Ateneo showed that they're for real especially with how they disposed a supposedly tough team in UE.

I always felt that the 5 games vs. DLSU last season really made the Eagles better. Kumbaga talagang nahinog at nahasa sila. Lalong bumangis ang character nila as a team.

If Walsham and Ferdinand don't show up for the series, it will be a tough mountain to climb for DLSU. But as long as Franz is there, anything is still possible.

My fearless forecast? Ateneo in 3.


USTE LO MEJOR!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS!

mighty_lion
09-14-2008, 11:53 PM
I still find it hard to make a forecast. Ateneo has the advantage in terms of manpower, offense and defense. DLSU has the experience, poise and what they say post-season magic. Remember last year DLSU never won a game against UE and they beat a team who finished 14-0 during elims.

Last year ang hula ko kung sino makakasilat ng game 1 sya na yamado. This time its hard to say it that way. Ang nakikita ko lang kung dikit ang laban sa last two minutes the Archers will have the upperhand.

jmaroons23
09-15-2008, 01:13 AM
Ateneo has the momentum and the talent, but Lasalle has been in this situation for several years already, and therefore, has the experience factor. I think if the series is decided by 2 games, Ateneo would take this one, but if it will go down to a game 3, I'd go for Lasalle.

paul_tamaraws
09-15-2008, 11:35 AM
ADMU will win this game by 10-15 pts with the way they are playing this season... expect Rabeh, Chris and the rest of the Hail Mary Team to explode in Game 1..

ponce
09-15-2008, 12:14 PM
Walsham is key. If he continues to be soft, Rabeh will wreak havoc inside.

Ateneo in three.

The_Big_Cat
09-15-2008, 12:27 PM
If it's a running game, La Salle will win. If it's a close and deliberate game, Ateneo will win.

La Salle in 3 games.

myktristan
09-15-2008, 03:12 PM
La Salle in 3 games..gusto ko mahaba ang series at tipong nanginginig ka na sa kaba.. ;D

sanlo
09-15-2008, 03:15 PM
If Ateneo wins big in Game 1, La salle will be psyched out in game 2. If la salle wins game 1, the ball is round.

jet127
09-15-2008, 05:27 PM
Ateneo in 2!

freak
09-15-2008, 06:54 PM
If Ateneo controls the pace of the game, Ateneo in 2.. if not Ateneo in 3. ;D

oca
09-15-2008, 07:01 PM
Franz is acknowledged as the best collegiate coach now, but if he can come up with something and win this series, he will be a certified genius.

RuckuS
09-16-2008, 12:21 PM
Ateneo via a 2game SWEEP. whether the games will be close is irrelevant. Ateneo has everything going for them -- they have the more talented players, deeper bench, momentum AND something they've never had before this season .. Killer Instinct. Al-Hussaini will romp off with the season MVP award while either Chris Tiu or Eric Salamat will be this year's Final's MVP.

at the end of the day it will be the game of Nonoy Baclao and if Yuri Escueta steps up that will determine how Ateneo will win their games.

The_Big_Cat
09-16-2008, 02:04 PM
We might hear "bang! bang!" cheers whenever Revilla takes his free-throws during this series.* ;D

bchoter
09-16-2008, 02:14 PM
^ You've just planted a seed :D

eustacia
09-16-2008, 02:32 PM
I’m curious why many people say that Ateneo has a deeper bench.* If by "deeper bench" you mean, more players sa regular rotation, then I agree. But if deeper bench refers to the quality of the bench players, then I disagree. Long, Escueta, Salva, Burke, Austria and Nkemakolam… I don’t think they have an advantage over Malabes, Barua, Villanueva and Revilla (in terms of contribution).* (

In fact, I’m looking at the stats and DLSU has the highest scoring average for bench players among the 8 teams, while ADMU is last. Even if you take out Salamat’s and Maierhofer’s contributions, malaki pa rin ang advantage ng DLSU sa bench scoring.

stonecold316
09-16-2008, 03:02 PM
DLSU in two games. Mas magaling ang La Salle especially pagdating sa play-offs at championship encounters.
OT: Regarding sa MVP: Jervy Cruz pa rin.
;D ;D ;D

glock23
09-16-2008, 04:25 PM
It will be a two game SWEEP!!! Bahala na kayo to fill in the blanks kung sino panalo! Safe answer, but im sure it will be over in 2! ;)

sanlo
09-16-2008, 05:43 PM
DLSU in two games. Mas magaling ang La Salle especially pagdating sa play-offs at championship encounters.
OT: Regarding sa MVP: Jervy Cruz pa rin.
;D ;D ;D


Sorry...not this time. Maybe in previous years. Norman knows Franz well.

glock23
09-16-2008, 06:23 PM
DLSU in two games. Mas magaling ang La Salle especially pagdating sa play-offs at championship encounters.
OT: Regarding sa MVP: Jervy Cruz pa rin.
;D ;D ;D


Sorry...not this time.* Maybe in previous years.* Norman knows Franz well.


And vice-versa brotha! ;)

THE ONLOOKER
09-16-2008, 10:46 PM
2002 - Ateneo won a PBL championship and went all the way in the UAAP.
2008- Ateneo won the Nike Summer League. Will they go all the way?


Ateneo won NSL because they played a fatigue stricken team of UE Red Warriors.

UE won over San Beda Red Lions at Filoil Finals the night before.

sanlo
09-16-2008, 10:58 PM
DLSU in two games. Mas magaling ang La Salle especially pagdating sa play-offs at championship encounters.
OT: Regarding sa MVP: Jervy Cruz pa rin.
;D ;D ;D


Sorry...not this time.* Maybe in previous years.* Norman knows Franz well.


And vice-versa brotha!* ;)


FYI Im not your brotha. :o May the best team win!

glock23
09-16-2008, 11:06 PM
DLSU in two games. Mas magaling ang La Salle especially pagdating sa play-offs at championship encounters.
OT: Regarding sa MVP: Jervy Cruz pa rin.
;D ;D ;D


Sorry...not this time.* Maybe in previous years.* Norman knows Franz well.


And vice-versa brotha!* ;)


FYI Im not your brotha.* *:o* May the best team win!


If it makes you happy, sanlo boy!

dieselbirdie
09-16-2008, 11:48 PM
2002 - Ateneo won a PBL championship and went all the way in the UAAP.
2008- Ateneo won the Nike Summer League. Will they go all the way?


Ateneo won NSL because they played a fatigue stricken team of UE Red Warriors.

UE won over San Beda Red Lions at Filoil Finals the night before.


I guess the warriors were well rested when they got massacred last Sunday.

jeshra
09-17-2008, 07:32 PM
CASIO is on a mission!
MISSION: TO STOP Chris tiu from winning a championship in the uaap:D

fionna
09-17-2008, 09:26 PM
are you mark telan ??

maexpac711
09-17-2008, 09:32 PM
#1 ATENEO DE MANILA UNIVERSITY vs. #2 DE LA SALLE UNIVERSITY

It has been 6 years since Ateneo and La Salle has met in the finals. All these years, we have seen either Ateneo or La Salle in the finals, but it’s been a while since we’ve seen both of them in the finals. And for the past few years, the rivalry is becoming more popular. With the battles in the decade from the likes of Enrico Villanueva, Larry Fonacier and Wesley Gonzales going up against guys like Mike Cortez, Mark Cardona and Ren Ren Ritualo to the likes of Chris Tiu, JC Intal and Rabah Al-Hussaini going up against guys like JV Casio, Rico Maierhoffer and TY Tang. All of these players creating the hype of arguably Philippine’s most historic rivalry. So here it is, September 21, 2008 at the Araneta Coliseum, an estimate of over 20,000 alumni, students, basketball fans, parents and former players filling up the place of a sea of green and blue screaming their lungs out to experience college basketball at its best. So after 14 grueling elimination matches and beating out their respective rivals in the Final 4, this is it the moment of truth. This is Philippine basketball at its best.

So here it is the match-up for the UAAP Season 71 Finals:

POINT GUARDS:
Jai Reyes vs. Simon Atkins
Jai Reyes is one of the best shooters in the UAAP right now. I feel that he would not be even in the team at the start of his career if it weren’t for his shooting touch. But he has really improved over the years, being a great floor general that sets ups his teammates well and is always there to knock the wide-open J. Simon Atkins on the other hand has been quite inconsistent in season 71. There were times that we see the Simon Atkins that led Zobel to the juniors’ championship in 2005, there are times we see the Simon Atkins that most people label as ‘overrated’. But after his scary injury, Simon has become a better and more confident leader for the Taft based squad and the La Salle community hopes to see the Atkins that we saw during his juniors’ days.
ADVANTAGE: ATENEO

SHOOTING GUARDS:
Chris Tiu vs. JV Casio
Chris Tiu is the Blue Eagle’s heart and soul. Without his leadership, Ateneo wouldn’t be this good. He possesses one of the best jumpers I’ve seen in the UAAP. He is also one of the smartest players in the UAAP, if not smartest (I’m not talking about being smart academically, but as a basketball player), this is because he sets up his teammates well and that he always has the knack to take the big shots (especially against La Salle). If Ateneo has Chris Tiu, La Salle will rely on JV Casio to create problems for the Blue Eagles. The problem is that the Blue Eagles are the one giving Casio some problems, especially in their last game. (4 points 2/16 fg shooting). But we just can’t just base it on one game. JV has the reputation to be a clutch player especially in the finals, and lets not forget that he is the reigning Finals MVP. So its unwise to forget ‘J-Shock’ as this veteran will be performing his final acts for the Green Archers.
ADVANTAGE: EVEN

SMALL FORWARDS:
Ryan Buenafe vs. James Mangahas
Ryan Buenafe has been phenomenal to say the least in his rookie year. He has been tearing down the opponents’ defenses with his strong upper body and his hang time maneuvers. But there are times that Buenafe has been performing like a rookie as well, taking bad shots and not making the right decisions. Never the less, this former Juniors MVP will create nightmare match-ups and the Taft based squad just hopes that he will play like an ordinary rookie. James Mangahas has been able to rise up in the last few games not to mention his 20-point effort against FEU to lead La Salle to the Finals. Mangahas brings toughness for La Salle at this position, because in games wherein he has an off game offensively, he follows it up with strong defense and rebounding. Expect James Mangahas to step up in the Finals, maybe it’ll be his breakout to stardom.
ADVANTAGE: LA SALLE

POWER FORWARD:
Nonoy Baclao vs. Rico Maierhoffer
Nonoy Baclao is the anchor of Ateneo’s suffocating D. Averaging 7.7 rebounds per game and 2.6 blocks per game, his presence in the court has been a nightmare to all their opponents. Though he is raw offensively, it’s his defense that the Blue Eagles cherish. With his long arms, quickness and athleticism, he will certainly be the X-factor of the series because if he can stop La Salle to penetrate to the basket, Ateneo can focus on playing the Archers in the perimeter. Rico Maierhoffer has been a freak of nature for the La Salle, its like he gets all the rebounds just by out jumping everyone inside the paint. But he is still very lanky that is why its hard for him to defend stronger post players. Needless to say, he has been a sensation for the Green Archers because of his hardwork and freakish athletisism. Its just a matter of him taking those ill advised 3-point shots and staying away from foul trouble.
ADVANTAGE: EVEN

CENTER
Rabah Al-Hussaini vs. PJ Walsham
Rabah Al-Hussaini will dominate this match-up. He is arguably the most improved and the best player in the league right now. He has raised his game to a whole new level and that is why Ateneo is the favorites to win the UAAP crown. He has been phenomenal and has given all of the Blue Eagle’s opponent’s nightmares. With his height, quickness and improved post play, I look for Ateneo to pass him the ball a lot! PJ Walsham will be used just to try, and I mean try to defend Ateneo’s big men. He will be counted on to rebound the ball, and make the Ateneo big men work for their shots. Helping in the offense will surely help La Salle, and they’ll gladly take the opportunity so that it will make the big men of Ateneo work inside the paint.
ADVANTAGE: ATENEO (By a Big Margin!!!)

The BENCH:
Eric Salamat, Kirk Long, Bacon Austria and Co. vs. Bader Malabes, LA Revilla, Peejay Barua and Co.
The Bench of both squads will play a huge factor in the series. This is because both squad possess two of the deepest benches in the UAAP. For the Ateneo side, their bench play will be lead by Eric Salamat. He will be there to break down the La Salle defense with his knack to drive to the basket with his quickness and his strong upper body strength to dwarf his opponent’s defenses. He will be a huge factor for the Ateneo to bring title to Katipunan. As for the other bench players, they are asked to keep their starters fresh with their energy and defense. For the La Salle side, their bench play is what brought them here in the finals. With guys like Barua and Malabes providing firepower and LA Revilla providing strong point play, these guys will be a big part of the series. This is because La Salle also depends on its bench for a spark in games, especially if their starters struggle at the start of the game. Look for the Ateneo and La Salle bench to make a big difference in the Finals.
ADVANTAGE: EVEN

COACHES:
Norman Black and Franz Pumaren
Norman Black has done a great job in the Ateneo system he created when he was hired in 2005. He has the resume to in his belt as a professional coach, winning multiple championships in the PBA. But he has never won a title in the UAAP, and this is his best chance to grab a title for himself and bring the championship back to Katipunan. Norman Black has installed a defense to his system that has frustrated his opponents, and it has been working wonders for the Blue Eagles. Franz Pumaren on the other hand is back in the finals. And he has done it all in the UAAP. Winning 4 straight titles, winning titles against their arch-nemesis and winning titles after being suspended for a year. But I think that this is the biggest challenge he has faced as a coach. Gone are those days when he had Allado, Ritualo, Cortez, Cardona, Yeo and Tang. But you can never question Franz, because like we said, he has done it all in the UAAP. (Remember UE last year?)
ADVANTAGE: LA SALLE (by a small margin… why? Look at the number of UAAP titles Franz has and don’t tell me about Norman Black being a PBA grand slam coach, because were in the UAAP, and here it’s the UAAP Championship that counts!)

Keys to Banner number 4 for Ateneo.
-Play the defense that made them #1 all season.
-Their wing players must have that killer instinct.
-Remember all those pain that La Salle caused you. (all those playoff defeats.)
-Stop La Salle’s perimeter and transition game.

Keys to Banner number 7 for La Salle.
-The bench must step up. (Support for Casio and Maierhoffer)
-Let Rabah be Rabah, stop Ateneo’s wingmen.
-Play with the hard and passion that brought you the title last year.
-Out run and out gun Ateneo.

Predictions aside and I just leave it up to you guys! I just see it either the Finals reaching 3 games or 2 hard fought, pound for pound fight!

THIS FINALS is more than being BLUE or GREEN, it is more than studying at Katipunan or Taft, it is more than being a Chris Tiu fan or a Simon Atkins fan, it is more than people buying P7, 000 just to watch the finals, it is more than everyone in Metro Manila turning their TV to Studio 23 when the clock strikes 4, its more than 20,000 fans going to the Araneta Coliseum either by MRT or LRT or taking a car and taking more than an hour just to look for a parking space, it is more than all those people buying those Ateneo or La Salle Adiddas merchandise and it is more than just another UAAP drama. This is simply PHILIPPINE BASKETBALL at its finest!

-Mark Esparaz ~blogger~

eustacia
09-18-2008, 09:40 AM
^DLSU already has seven championships: 1989, 1990, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2007. Eight if you count 1991.

fionna
09-18-2008, 12:10 PM
wow! the best talaga dlsu ......... sa basketball. sabagay kilala naman talaga sila sa galing nila sa basketball.

mighty_lion
09-18-2008, 01:40 PM
Quotes from XandOs and Yokam in another thread re what wins a championship series (http://www.gameface.ph/forums/index.php?action=post;quote=66680;topic=1887.0;num _replies=12;sesc=4ec87e748b403d9f75be549aa89b770c)



There is no doubt a special combination of factors that contribute to a season that ends in a Championship.* Of course, talent plays a role, but the successful coaches and teams are able to control or influence many of these factors in their favor in order to win.* These are some aspects of successful campaigns that may go overlooked:

-A Healthy Roster:
There is no discounting the effect that a healthy roster has.* 5 healthy starters and complimentary bench is such an advantage in a playoff situation.* The team has the full compliment of players, and roles and responsibilities that have been established during the season do not need to be changed.* Substitution patterns, rotations, and assignments are consistent, and the familiar is always better than the unknown unless...

-Production from an Unlikely Source:
Over the course of a season, playoff, or tournament, teams do such a good job of scouting each other.* Tendencies and personnel become transparent.* In order to game plan defensively, coaches are often left with the this dliemma; do we allow the superstar to get his points and hold the rest of the team below their averages, or do we harass and disrupt the superstar so much that it forces someone else not used to the limelight to carry the scoring load.* These things happen, but the successful championship teams often have someone who is not expected to contribute, come up big in much needed situations.* Case in point, Daniel Gibson.* As a reserve for the Cleveland Cavaliers, he has never been expected to be reliable scorer.* But in a game that would propel them to their run to the NBA Finals and the starting PG injured on the bench, he became a reliable "wingman" to Lebron's show.* He scored over 20 points in helping to defeat the Pistons.* In the previous year, Tim Thomas, Leandro Barbosa, and Boris Diaw, all unknown commodities or has beens (in the case of Thomas) produced points, rebounds, assists, and clutch shots in helping the Suns overcome a 3-1 deficit to the Lakers.* Look at every championship run, and you will find examples of this concept.

-Effective Game Management/Who Makes the Best Game Adjustments:
Successful teams, especially when it comes to the coaching staff, are able to make adjustments possession to possession, game to game, series to series, in order to be successful.* Which ever team makes the best adjustments, usually wins a series or championship game.* Especially when you examine a playoff series, it becomes more and more difficult to make adjustments offensively or defensively because you see each other so often...it becomes harder to show something new to prepare for.* So it becomes a matter of execution, in the smallest details, and adjusting sets or assignments or priorities in such a way that it gives the team the best chance to take advantage of another team.* The best coaches are able to do this, using effective leadership and game management in order to get their team to listen and execute.*

-Preparation and Getting the Lucky Bounces:
Let's face it...a team will need to be lucky and good in order to win a Championship game or series.* Getting the ball to bounce in your team's favor can sometimes seem like luck or uncalculated, and many times it is.* But a team has a greater chance of getting more balls to bounce your way, more big shots to go in during end-game situations, more defensive stops as the shot clock runs down, if the coaches and team are prepared.* For instance, take Robert Horry, the big shot maker.* If you look at his minutes or points per game, he has minimal results.* But no matter what the situation, especially in the playoffs, he comes big in big games.* He's always prepared to play, whenever the coach calls his number, and he almost always delivers, and the balls bounce in his direction.* Luck favors those who are the most prepared to take the opportunity for fortunate results when it comes their way.*

-Experience Counts:
I tend to disagree with the previous poster that alot of veterans hurt you in favor of younger players.* If the veterans are spoiled, overpaid, stubborn, lazy players that have lost the joy of the game and do not work to get better or stay focused, then veterans hold you back.* But take a look at the recent champions in the NBA and NCAA (USA).* Experience was essential to helping them be successful when it really matters.* The University of Florida repeated as national champions with a roster of 4 juniors & 1 senior in the starting line up.* When the University of North Carolina won in 2005, the roster had 3 juniors & 2 seniors.* The Spurs (Duncan, Bowen, Horry, Parker), Pistons (Billups, Wallace, Hunter), and Heat (O'Neal, Payton) all had players with either championship experience or deep playoff runs.* They knew how to win, and knew how to handle tough situations when they came.* This also goes for coaches.* All these coaches had experienced success or failure in the championship game or series.* It informs your decisions.*

-Failure Before Success:* *
All teams had to experience a measure of failure before success, either within the season, or in seasons past.* The Miami Heat got off to a dismal start before turning it around.* They were also down in the Finals before going on an historic run.* These teams accept failure for what it is but are not shackled or held back by it.* They learn from errors and mistakes and change their approach in order to win.* These teams never give up and are relentless.*

-Hunger & Passion:
Most of all, all teams that play with hunger and passion are often the most successful and can sustain a successful run through a playoff or tournament.* Teams that have the will and desire to do whatever is necessary to win are often the ones that are the most prepared, never give up, do all they can to stay healthy, and learn from their mistakes to adjust.*

This is not the complete formula, but these pieces are essential components to an equation that can result in a trophy at the end of the season.* *
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1.) Great team chemistry -- Nothing is better than a team that plays as one, a team that really plays as a team. Each players should be familiar and be comfortable in playing with each other and they should know each others strengths and weaknesses. That's why normally the team that ends up the champion is the team that has been playing alongside each other for quite sometime already. Just a fun fact, ever wonder why the San Antonio Spurs always remain on top as one of the NBA's top caliber teams even though some other teams look a lot better and stronger than them? It's because of team chemistry. The Spurs have kept their core intact (e.g. Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker). And other than that, the Spurs "team chemistry" extends beyond the basketball court, the Spurs management encouraged the players, coaches and even the management to move and live closer to each other so they can have quality time along with their families. The bond of the San Antonio Spurs is just so strong, no wonder why they always end up on top.

2.) Heart -- Skills bring fame, heart wins games. It's the heart that separates the men from the boys. Michael Jordan, Isiah Thomas, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Willis Reed, Allen Iverson to name a few. When one plays in a level wherein other players has great skills too, one needs more than skills to win games. That's where the heart comes in. After all, how would one win if he has quitted already in the first place?

3.) Basketball IQ -- As Dwayne Wade said in their series against the Pistons, "it's reading what the other team is doing and taking what their defense gives you". It's reading and knowing what to do in different circumstances. Basketball boils down to mind games too, especially when one face an equally competent and experienced opponent too, it ends up outwitting and outplaying each other rather than relying on pure and raw skill.

4.) Balanced defense and offense -- As they say, "offense wins games, defense wins championships". My take? It should be balanced. How can one win a number of games when one plays good defense and mediocre offense? Basketball is won by the points scored, thus one really needs a good offense (it's not an option, it's a must). On the other hand, bad defense won't bring a team far too. The Phoenix Suns is a good example.

5.) Balanced team/roster -- 5 great centers won't win a lot of games, and 5 great point guards as well playing together. Each should divide the labor, everybody has each part to play. A team that has an able and reliable player in each of the positions is more likely to win games rather than having all 5 top players playing in the same position. This might sound ridiculous but there's a lot of teams out there that has a very imbalanced line-up.

myktristan
09-18-2008, 02:53 PM
Tiu, Casio to leave mark in UAAP
by Jonas Terrado
http://www.tempo.com.ph/news.php?aid=40870

Chris Tiu of Ateneo de Manila and JV Casio of De la Salle are hoping to leave a mark in their final season in the University Athletic Association of the Philippines (UAAP). Tiu and Casio are expected to play starring roles when the Eagles and the Archers begin their best-of-three title series on Sunday at the Araneta Coliseum.

Both players are having their best season since they started suiting up in 2003. Casio, a prized recruit from the San Beda Red Cubs of coach Ato Badolato, began his rookie season with a solid role for the Green Archers. He averaged 9.1 points, 2.4 rebounds and 1.9 assists to capture rookie of the year honors. But he would be remembered a year later when he sank a game-winning triple late that gave the Archers the 2004 championship.

Although the Archers were stripped of that title following an eligibility scandal, Casio continued to improve over the next two seasons. He was named as the co-Finals MVP with Cholo Villanueva last year when La Salle swept University of the East to capture the crown.

This season, Casio had career-highs of 17.0 points, 4.1 rebounds and 3.6 assists. He scored a season-high 29 points against Far Eastern University and University of Santo Tomas.

On the other hand, Tiu started as a benchwarmer with Ateneo in his first two seasons before spending one year as an exchange student abroad.

In 2006 however, Tiu came back to the team and made a significant role for the team that placed second to University of Santo Tomas in the finals, averaging 11.8 points, 3.3 rebounds and 1.7 assists. Last season, he gradually improved to 12.4 points, 5.1 rebounds and 3.2 assists. Tiu’s averages of 14.4 points, 6.0 rebounds and 3.6 assists were impressive considering Ateneo’s deep and balanced roster.

Chris Tiu of Ateneo de Manila and JV Casio of De la Salle are hoping to leave a mark in their final season in the University Athletic Association of the Philippines (UAAP).

Tiu and Casio are expected to play starring roles when the Eagles and the Archers begin their best-of-three title series on Sunday at the Araneta Coliseum.

Both players are having their best season since they started suiting up in 2003.

Casio, a prized recruit from the San Beda Red Cubs of coach Ato Badolato, began his rookie season with a solid role for the Green Archers. He averaged 9.1 points, 2.4 rebounds and 1.9 assists to capture rookie of the year honors.

But he would be remembered a year later when he sank a game-winning triple late that gave the Archers the 2004 championship.

Although the Archers were stripped of that title following an eligibility scandal, Casio continued to improve over the next two seasons. He was named as the co-Finals MVP with Cholo Villanueva last year when La Salle swept University of the East to capture the crown.

This season, Casio had career-highs of 17.0 points, 4.1 rebounds and 3.6 assists. He scored a season-high 29 points against Far Eastern University and University of Santo Tomas.

On the other hand, Tiu started as a benchwarmer with Ateneo in his first two seasons before spending one year as an exchange student abroad.

In 2006 however, Tiu came back to the team and made a significant role for the team that placed second to University of Santo Tomas in the finals, averaging 11.8 points, 3.3 rebounds and 1.7 assists.

Last season, he gradually improved to 12.4 points, 5.1 rebounds and 3.2 assists.

Tiu’s averages of 14.4 points, 6.0 rebounds and 3.6 assists were impressive considering Ateneo’s deep and balanced roster.

stonecold316
09-18-2008, 05:49 PM
Ateneo, La Salle coaches want fair, consistent officiating in UAAP finals
09/18/2008 | 05:39 PM
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MANILA, Philippines – Ateneo coach Norman Black and La Salle mentor Franz Pumaren are hoping the referees tasked to officiate the University Athletic Association of the Philippines best-of-three title series will be fair and consistent.

Both coaches agree that unbiased officiating will give both teams the chance to play their usual game in this much-anticipated championship series. Game 1 will be played on Sunday, September 21, at the Araneta Coliseum.

“The only thing I requested from (UAAP Commissioner Chito Narvasa and his technical staff) is for them to be consistent in the way they call the game," said Black, who is targeting his first ever UAAP crown after four years at the Ateneo bench.

“And that the way games have been officiated so far will be the way the finals will be officiated so the players will not have a very difficult time adjusting."

Pumaren echoed the same sentiment.

“My appeal is for them to be consistent, and you will never hear from me. Just be consistent. I know it’s just a matter of consistency," said Pumaren.

There is already an agreement that a pool of 12 referees will officiate in the entire three-game series and will be directly under Narvasa’s management.

It will be the fourth time that Ateneo and La Salle will clash for the UAAP crown. Ateneo won the 1988 and 2002 titles at La Salle’s expense while the Green Archers emerged victorious during the 2001 season. – GMANews.TV

tsikamajigs
09-18-2008, 09:12 PM
2002 - Ateneo won a PBL championship and went all the way in the UAAP.
2008- Ateneo won the Nike Summer League. Will they go all the way?


Ateneo won NSL because they played a fatigue stricken team of UE Red Warriors.

UE won over San Beda Red Lions at Filoil Finals the night before.


I guess the warriors were well rested when they got massacred last Sunday.


The Warriors were also well rested when they faced LaSalle last year.

Schortsanitis
09-21-2008, 01:20 PM
http://sports.inquirer.net/inquirersports/inquirersports/view/20080921-161939/La-Salle-Ateneo-duel-Tiu-guarded

La Salle, Ateneo Duel; Tiu Guarded

By Jasmine W. Payo
Philippine Daily Inquirer

Posted date: September 21, 2008

MANILA, Philippines—By now, everything that could possibly be said about the country’s most passionate basketball rivalry has already been said.

The personalities from both defending champion La Salle and elimination round topnotcher Ateneo have filled hectares of newsprint with their thoughts on the best-of-three championship series for the UAAP men’s basketball crown.

The anticipation has been over-the-top, the angles bled dry: The defending champion versus the title favorite. The Grand Slam professional coach versus the most decorated collegiate mentor. The top seed versus the most successful squad of the past decade. Green versus Blue.

Enough with the words. It’s time the two varsity squads get it on.

Game 1 kicks off at the storied Araneta Coliseum, which will be the home of the most celebrated championship series this year, with La Salle and Ateneo hoping to get a headstart at the 4 p.m. match today.

As rivalry and rich history again collide, Game 1 will put an end to the basketball buzz no other varsity match up can generate. Game 1 will kick off the action

Because after all that talk, the only thing important for Ateneo coach Norman Black and La Salle strategist Franz Pumaren is that their teams take a step closer to the title.

“Our goal is not completed yet,” said Black after his Eagles marched into the championship round with a 14-1 record. “We set a goal from the beginning of the year to win the championship. Whatever it takes, we’ll get it done.”

But if there’s one team that has shown many times over how to get a high-stake game done, it’s definitely the Archers, who own half of the league’s crowns in the last 10 years.

“We’re used to this kind of situation—preparing for the Finals,” said Pumaren.

“I think we’re right on track. I’ve been pacing my players. But based on my experience in playing in the Finals, it will take a collective effort from all the players to win the championship. Down the road, it’s the poise and execution that will help us in the coming series.”

Bodyguards

On the eve of the first game, drama and controversy continued to stalk the rivalry as the family of Ateneo star Chris Tiu has reportedly hired bodyguards to look after the safety of their son, a reliable source told the Philippine Daily Inquirer on Saturday.

The decision, a source close to the family said, was reached after several unidentified people reportedly tried to approach Tiu in several instances.

The source did not elaborate on who the people were and what they wanted, but said they started stalking Tiu early last week. The source said the Tiu family did not want a repeat of the Mac Baracael case.

Baracael, a standout with the FEU Tamaraws, survived a shooting incident recently, where he was shot by a lone assailant in a case widely believed to have links to a game-fixing syndicate.

The Eagles swept the Archers this season with a 79-73 tripping in the first round, followed by a 65-57 validation victory in the second.

But of course, both squads know that precedents hardly matter in every Ateneo-La Salle duel.

“The concern with playing La Salle for me is worrying about their conditioning,” said Black. “We always consider La Salle as one of the best conditioned teams in the league.”

Pumaren, on the other hand, stressed that the Archers are bracing for a tough series against a team better than them on paper.

“Making it to the Finals is already a difficult task, so playing against the number one team will be a harder job for us,” said Pumaren. “If you’re going to look at Ateneo’s lineup, they’re a deep and complete team.”

Bearing the title hopes of their basketball-mad schools are the Ateneo’s Chris Tiu, Rabeh Al-Hussaini and Nonoy Baclao and La Salle’s JV Casio and Rico Maierhofer and James Mangahas.

©Copyright 2001-2008 INQUIRER.net, An Inquirer Company

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Tiu had to be guarded because of game-fixers? Didn't those guys just shoot Baracael just a couple of months ago? How come they're still very much active.

It looks like it will take somebody like Mayor Lim to get rid of those guys. But wait! He was offered to take the Baracael case, but begged off. Is he himself afraid of those game-fixers? Hmmm ....

P.S. Do I now have a contract on my head? :D

tigerman
09-21-2008, 07:47 PM
Al-Husaini with a 31-10 game :o

If DLSU's outside shooting continues to be sour and the duo of Walsham and Ferdinand fails to step up come Thursday, there's no way they can extend the series to a game 3.



USTE LO MEJOR!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS!

mighty_lion
09-22-2008, 08:21 AM
The first quarter is all about DLSU's finals experience and too bad they werent able to execute well on offense and convert those Ateneo turnovers. Playing lose on Rabah in 2nd to 4th quarter did not help either.

Keys for DLSU to force Game 3
- Outside shooting and shot selection. DLSU's 3pt bombs should not all come from top of the key, dapat meron sa gilid para kung mintis man mas mataas ang chances for offensive rebounds. ADMU showcased yesterday how difficult it is to get offensive boards.
- Play ball denial defense to Rabeh 100% of the time. Ferdinand did the right thing in the first quarter.

Keys for ADMU to seal the victory in Game 2
- Composure for Ateneo guards. Turnovers are costly as each possession counts.
- Pound the ball inside. Go to Rabah if DLSU play him lose. If DLSU plays tight man-to-man, go to Buenafe.

stonecold316
09-22-2008, 07:10 PM
Playing big: Rabeh keys Ateneo win in Game One
09/21/2008 | 06:15 PM
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MANILA, Philippines – De La Salle did its best to contain Rabeh al-Hussaini.

At least, the Green Archers tried.

Al-Hussaini scored 31 points and grabbed nine rebounds to lead Ateneo to a 69-61 victory over De La Salle in Game One of the University Athletic Association of the Philippines men’s basketball finals Sunday at the Araneta Coliseum.

Al-Hussaini, the frontrunner for league MVP honors, started slow, missing four of his first five shots. But once he got into his comfort zone, the Ateneo big man couldn’t be stopped.

"His game today answered those MVP questions," Ateneo coach Norman Black said.

Whether near the basket, on follow-ups, at the free-throw line, driving to the basket or shooting from mid-range, al-Hussaini, who tacked 12 points in the breakaway third quarter, put on an offensive clinic that no one from among De La Salle’s players could control.

But it took a while before the six-foot-seven center got into a rhythm in a game that saw 22,900 spectators pack the Big Dome.

The Eagles went on a 10-0 run—mostly on free throws—in the last three minutes of the first half to take a 36-29 lead.

Then al-Hussaini went to work. He scored on the post and on a drive to give the Ateneans a 40-29 lead at the start of the third quarter.

Later in the period, al-Hussaini converted on a follow-up to stretch the Eagles’ cushion to 51-37, the game’s biggest lead.

Al-Hussaini wound up shooting 14-of-26 from the field. Ryan Buenafe and Jai Reyes chipped in 12 points each. Buenafe also had 11 rebounds.

Ateneo won despite committing a season-high 23 turnovers and team leader Chris Tiu sitting out nearly half the entire game due to foul trouble. His first and only bucket came in the 3:25 mark of the fourth that made it 65-52.

In the back-and-forth first half, Buenafe stabilized a jittery Ateneo team that coughed 14 first-half turnovers.

The rookie phenom already had a full-game stat line with 11 points, eight rebounds and four assists, most of them coming in the first quarter where the Eagles' biggest lead was five (23-18).

JV Casio’s three-point play gave La Salle a 29-26 lead at the 2:58 mark of the second quarter before the Eagles countered with the 10-0 blast.

Casio finished with 20 points and Rico Maierhofer had 17 and 16 rebounds for the Green Archers who were an atrocious three-of-19 from three-point range and 20-of-70 overall from the field.

The victory was Ateneo’s 10th straight overall.

The Eagles will go for their third UAAP championship in Game Two on Thursday. – GMANews.TV

stonecold316
09-22-2008, 07:11 PM
Individual awards just gravy, top Ateneo players admit
09/22/2008 | 05:53 PM
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MANILA, Philippines – For most valuable player and rookie of the year shoo-ins Rabeh Al-Hussaini and Ryan Buenafe of Ateneo their individual titles would be worthless if the Blue Eagles would fail to complete their ultimate goal of winning the University Athletic Association of the Philippines (UAAP).

“All the team wants is to win the title. We still have one more game and I don’t care about the MVP. I want the championship ring," Al-Hussaini said, minutes after guiding the Ateneo Blue Eagles to a 69-61 win over the defending champion La Salle Green Archers last Sunday.

“I can live without the MVP what’s important is the ring in my finger. If ever I win the MVP that will be a bonus," added Al-Hussaini. “The stats don’t matter to me. I just play good defense and with a lot of heart every game."

Al-Hussaini dominated the La Salle big men in the best-of-three finals opener, putting up an impressive performance to finally end the question of who deserves to be named MVP this season.

The six-foot-seven Al-Hussaini toyed with the defense La Salle threw at him to end up with a game-high 31 points and nine rebounds.

The Archers began the game defending Al-Hussaini one-on-one, but the Ateneo big man still wound up with 11 points and five rebounds in the first half.

In the second half, La Salle tried everything against Al-Hussaini, with Ferdinand, Maui Villanueva and Rico Maierhofer being tasked to double- or triple-team him.

Buenafe echoed Al-Hussaini's feelings. “The team’s focus now is to win the UAAP title."

Buenafe said he believes that if he is named the season’s top rookie, it will be a bonus.

He added that even though he is a rookie, he admitted that he hasn't been feeling the pressure despite being in the midst of the high-stakes collegiate rivalry. “I think the pressure is with the veterans since they need to deliver."

Buenafe certainly knows how it feels to play in the finals after leading the San Sebastian Staglets to the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) juniors division crown for three straight years.

“I was surprised with the attention that we are getting right now and the whole country is watching."

Buenafe said they hope to close out the series on Thursday. “One more game. We need to win one more game." – GMANews.TV

joelex
09-25-2008, 07:02 PM
CONGRATULATIONS TO THE BLUE EAGLES!! WELL DESERVED DEFINITELY!

DITO NA LANG CAUSE IM BANNED DOWN THERE AT THE BEN HAHAHA ;D

aircanda
09-25-2008, 08:03 PM
sorry for being tsismoso? sadya ba na hindi lumabas ang green archers nung presentation nung 1st runner up trophy?

izon
09-25-2008, 08:12 PM
sori for being tsismoso? sadya ba na hindi lumabas ang green archers nung presentation nung 1st runner up trophy?


Hindi ba lumabas para kunin ang 1st runner up trophy? Bakit?

fionna
09-25-2008, 08:32 PM
nagulat ka pa ! since the dlsu-feu series dati kung san may nambatok, alam ko na na hirap na hirap tumangap ng talo ang dlsu...

laro lang yan.. its not the end of the world..well, maybe if you are from dlsu where you pride yourself in being the best.......in basketball !

Jump_Shooter
09-25-2008, 09:13 PM
fionna, I'm giving you a warning for making a flamebait post. Given your history in making similar posts in other forums, I will recommend that you be banned from this forum if you make another post like this. I will be monitoring this thread carefully. Let's all try to be civil here. It's okay to celebrate, but don't cross the line.

The_Big_Cat
09-25-2008, 09:30 PM
The referees called it very tight in this game.

Rabeh got two early fouls. I felt La Salle failed to capitalized on it. La Salle just had a bad shooting day. Malabes and Barua were scoreless. Mangahas and Atkins had only 3 points each. Casio and Rico had no help in scoring.

For Ateneo, they simply have many ways to find their points. Just as you thought the early fouls on Rabeh may have stalled the Blue Eagles offense, Chris Tiu came to save the day.

Jobe came off the bench to spell the foul-ridden Rabeh with 8 points. While back-up forward Mike Baldos had 6 points as well.

Good defense and balanced scoring were Ateneo's success today.

fionna
09-25-2008, 11:26 PM
I am just stating a fact. The mere fact that no one , not even a single team member, went out to receive the trophy and that pumaren, as usual, castigated the referees instead of just accepting defeat and congratulating ateneo just shows what kind of persons they are (not all, because there are some level headed lasallites although I wont count mike enriquez as one of them).

I believe there lies the difference between the 2 schools. Had this happened the other way around, I am dead sure that norman black would have blamed the team itself (i.e. poor shooting or defense, etc..) and would have simply stated that lasalle was the better team this series. Kindly look back at the past championship meetings between admu-dlsu or any dlsu series that they lost. They always have an excuse (remember 2002-mike cortez) whereas when admu lost 2001, did anyone say that enrico sold the game, when everyone knows that enrico had a terrible game. Admu even congratulated la salle !!!!

little agma
09-26-2008, 12:22 AM
I am just stating a fact. The mere fact that no one , not even a single team member, went out to receive the trophy and that pumaren, as usual, castigated the referees instead of just accepting defeat and congratulating ateneo just shows what kind of persons they are (not all, because there are some level headed lasallites although I wont count mike enriquez as one of them).*

I believe there lies the difference between the 2 schools.* Had this happened the other way around, I am dead sure that norman black would have blamed the team itself (i.e. poor shooting or defense, etc..) and would have simply stated that lasalle was the better team this series. Kindly look back at the past championship meetings between admu-dlsu or any dlsu series that they lost.* They always have an excuse (remember 2002-mike cortez) whereas when admu lost 2001, did anyone say that enrico sold the game, when everyone knows that enrico had a terrible game. Admu even congratulated la salle !!!!


another holier-than-thou comment...then explain to me the blog of charles tiu and rick olivares

fionna
09-26-2008, 01:59 AM
I am sorry , am not familiar with the blog. Anybody can make a blog, any lasallite or atenean can make a blog stating their own views and biases.

I am just stating what I read in the papers. Have you ever wondered why dlsu is one of the most disliked schools (at least in uaap basketball). Its because they refuse to accept defeat and gloat during victories.

atenean_blooded
09-26-2008, 02:04 AM
http://images.inquirer.net/img/thumbnails/new/hea/pag/img/2008/09/20080926.jpg

Mateen Cleaves
09-26-2008, 05:44 AM
I believe there lies the difference between the 2 schools.* Had this happened the other way around, I am dead sure that norman black would have blamed the team itself (i.e. poor shooting or defense, etc..) and would have simply stated that lasalle was the better team this series. Kindly look back at the past championship meetings between admu-dlsu or any dlsu series that they lost.* They always have an excuse (remember 2002-mike cortez) whereas when admu lost 2001, did anyone say that enrico sold the game, when everyone knows that enrico had a terrible game. Admu even congratulated la salle !!!!




another holier-than-thou comment...then explain to me the blog of charles tiu and rick olivares




I am just stating what I read in the papers.* Have you ever wondered why dlsu is one of the most disliked schools (at least in uaap basketball).* Its because they refuse to accept defeat and gloat during victories.


This is not the forum for that kind of "discussion". Believe it or not, there are actually people here who are NEITHER ateneo nor la salle fans. We just want to talk basketball.

If you want to bash the other school, there are ADMU and DLSU-specific fansites that will welcome you both. Or go join the fun at pinoyexchange.

eightyfiver
09-26-2008, 08:25 AM
Congrats to ADMU! Congrats Coach Norman and Nonoy!
Cheers!

Semenelin
09-26-2008, 09:43 AM
Congrats to the Blue Eagles for the well deserved win!

tigerman
09-26-2008, 10:44 AM
Walsham did step up but I guess it was either a case of too late the hero or maybe not enough. The Archers' supporting cast did not show up either in this series.

As I've said earlier, DLSU's outside shooting must be on target in order to open up the lane versus the tough Ateneo defense anchored by a defensive monster in Nonoy Baclao. Too bad for the Archers, that didn't happen.

Congrats to the Eagles.



USTE LO MEJOR!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS!

shoeless_joe
09-26-2008, 12:08 PM
Ateneo won in 2002, 14 years after the previous championship. We failed to defend it in 2003 against FEU. - thing of the past

Ateneo lost to UST in 2006 after winning Game 1 for the so called "championship with an asterisk." - so we choked. thing of the past.

We won thrice against DLSU last year but lost the 2 games that mattered. - so we choked again. thing of the past.

Nangyari na lahat yun. But for now, the Ateneo Blue Eagles are the champions.

Fine, we don't have a four-peat like UST and DLSU. Magaling yung teams nyo noon. Tanggap namin yun. But still, thing of the past.

Will we repeat in 2009? I don't know. Our last back2back were in 1987-88. Maybe our next will be in 2009. or maybe after 6 years again. or after 14 years. I' don't know. But what I do know is that we are the champions this year and if we are not good enough to duplicate the four-peats of UST and DLSU, so be it. if that may be the case, then fine, hindi kami kasing galing niyo. basta as long as our once every how many years championship is won over DLSU, i can live with it.

Go Ateneo! One Big Fight!

sa_pula
09-26-2008, 12:38 PM
Buti UE kahit talunan last year lahat andon nung binigay trophy..sabagay paminsan minsan lang kasi sa amin un ;D

congrats ateneo!

out of order
09-26-2008, 01:27 PM
wala bang stats? nakakatawa sa pex e, parang tabloid. quick analysis, la salle was just shooting blanks in the 4th.

The_Big_Cat
09-26-2008, 02:13 PM
wala bang stats? nakakatawa sa pex e, parang tabloid. quick analysis, la salle was just shooting blanks in the 4th.

Then, welcome to the country's premier broadsheet, Gameface. :)

Pepe G Boy
09-26-2008, 03:11 PM
Congratulations to Nonoy Baclao for winning the Finals MVP.
He truly deserved it.

atenean_blooded
09-26-2008, 04:39 PM
wala bang stats? nakakatawa sa pex e, parang tabloid. quick analysis, la salle was just shooting blanks in the 4th.


Stat sheet

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3240/2887595938_e7a4e2cd05_b.jpg

RockLobster
09-26-2008, 07:55 PM
A near perfect season for Ateneo. The hard work paid off, finally. Well-deserved, Blue Eagles. Congratulations!

pablohoney
09-26-2008, 08:06 PM
In my honest opinion, DLSU got BACLAO-ed as well (just like UST in Season 70 playoff game).
Rabeh was great, Tiu was the usual steady leader, but BACLAO was DA MAN! ;D ;)

He is, and will always be, the Blue Eagle that I fear the most whenever UST is up against ADMU.

Anyway, congratulations to the Blue Eagles.

Schortsanitis
09-27-2008, 02:05 PM
Thanks to "panopticalkid", here's a torrent link of Game 2 of the 2008 UAAP Finals between ADMU and DLSU for everybody's reference, if it hasn't been posted yet;

http://www.mininova.org/tor/1846198

Jump_Shooter
09-29-2008, 12:19 PM
Okay, boys and girls, I'm leaving this thread open until Thursday, or exactly one week after Game 2. So you have till then to either celebrate, vent, or give your impartial views. Thank you.

Jump_Shooter
10-02-2008, 04:17 PM
10...9...8...7...6...5...4...3...2...1 locking

Tll next season.