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Semenelin
02-11-2007, 12:12 PM
Now that BAP-SBP is happy(?) together, are there any plans to create a Junior National Team? In the Asia-Basket site there are under18 and under20 tournaments. Are there any plans to create a team for those tournaments? I think we could elevate our young players game if we send them to tournaments abroad and play with bigger and more skilled players.

if there is a junior national team, who would pick to be in the team? U18 and U20.

AnthonyServinio
02-12-2007, 02:58 AM
* * *Let us all learn from the mistakes of the past -- get a new coach for the Junior NT better than the old BAP's errand boy Johny Tam (that should be a very easy task).

* * *Under the six-year (mis)guidance of Tam and his lackeys and with the consent of illegal alien Graham Lim, the Junior NT program sank to levels never before imagined in Pinoy hoops history.* A whole generation of players never got to relish and savor the honor of playing for the country simply because they would never allow themselves to be under the BAP's multi-titled coaching genius Tam.

* * *Get a coach who will command respect from all the basketball leagues so they will make available their best players.* Any right-minded parent, guardian or school official would never entrust their child to the care of people like Tam. It's weird when one recalls the excuse given by Tam that no one else wanted the Junior NT coaching job so he took it.

* * *Remember, we are talking here kids 18 years and younger.* It takes a special kind of coach to handle players at this critical stage of their development.

* * *We hope to see a Junior NT composed of the true best players from the powerhouse programs.* We want to see more players from traditional high school powerhouses San Beda-Rizal and Ateneo.

* * *Bottomline is that pride, honor and respect must be restored to the Philippine Junior NT program.* It will take some time before we undo the mess created by the old Junior NT handlers but it is doable and attainable.

yungha
02-12-2007, 10:05 AM
i've long wanted for the country to have a strong juniors program that's integrated with the seniors (elite) program. how i wish that we have a strong, working 14-and-under program, whose best players will move on to the 16-and-under program, whose best players will move on to the 18-and-under program, and so on. by the time these juniors players are mature enough and good enough, they can be called upon anytime to play for the seniors team because they're already familiar with the system.

i once had a chat with coach chot and i remember 2 keen points-

1) argentina has been dominant the past few years because the ginobili's group has been together since they were 16 years old. now they're so familiar with each other that good teamwork is second-nature to them.

2) south korea - you look at their national team and you'll notice their distinct playing style. watch any of their club teams, any of their college teams, any of their high school teams, they play the same style. go to any playground, watch kids playing 3-on-3 or 4-on-4, they play the same style. and that style has enabled them to beat, from time to time, asian powerhouse china.

with the new leadership, i hope we take the same route and regain our once lofty position in juniors basketball.

Semenelin
02-12-2007, 02:40 PM
ganda nga sana kung bata pa lng e mabigyan ng exposure yun mga players natin. if early in their basketball careers they get to play against tougher opponents, masanay sila agad and we could instill in them to play harder and really give their all during games. feeling ko talent wise hindi naman tayo masyado huli in Asia, pero parang hindi tayo exposed as much as some countries. gaya ng sabi nyo, sana maayos ti ng bagong Basktball body natin. Kahit sana college level team na pwede ipadala somewhere to compete makabuo tayo.

AnthonyServinio
07-16-2007, 02:51 AM
* * *THE Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (BAP-SBP) has recently announced the appointment of Coach Franz Pumaren of De La Salle University as Head Coach of the Junior National Team effective immediately.

* * *Try-outs will be announced soon.* The BAP-SBP also bared its intention to bid for the hosting rights of the 2008 FIBA-Asia Junior Championships.* The Philippines last hosted the same event in 1994.

gameface_one
07-16-2007, 06:43 AM
Pumaren coaches RP youth team

The Philippine Star

Franz Pumaren, the multi-titled coach from La Salle, has been tapped to handle the country’s youth team as BAP-SBP continued to chart the future of Philippine basketball.

“The outstanding winning tradition of coach Franz (Pumaren) speaks for itself,” said BAP-SBP executive director Gregorio. “Just like the other coaches we have appointed in our national teams, his role in the development of so many fine players today has been paramount and BAP-SBP believes the RP Youth team will be in great hands.”

Pumaren’s appointment came on the heels of the International Olympic Committee’s announcement of the staging of the first ever Youth Olympics featuring athletes 14 to 18 years old set to unfold in 2010.

“This gives us ample time to train a solid basketball delegation that could make history for our country in this endeavor of the IOC,” said Gregorio.

San Beda Red Cubs champion coach Ato Badolato and Ateneo Blue Eagles assistant mentor Sandy Arespacochaga will be invited to join Pumaren’s coaching staff.

Pumaren, who played a key role in the RP squad that swept all opposition en route to the FIBA-Asia Championship in 1985 and steered the Green Archers to four consecutive crowns from 1998-2001, is set to plunge into action after the ongoing UAAP season to form the contingent that will be seeing action in the upcoming SEABA juniors and the Asian Youth Championships slated in July 2008.

“This gives us ample time to train a solid basketball delegation that could make history for our country in this noble endeavor of the IOC,” Gregorio disclosed.

Wang-Bu
07-16-2007, 05:12 PM
Bakit hindi si JAMIKE JARIN ang kunin, yaman rin lang siya ang kasalukuyang coach ng Ateneo Juniors?

john_paul_manahan
07-16-2007, 09:09 PM
who do you have in mind for this (players)

remember youth olympics equate to 14-18 in 2010. (in other words, yung mga 11-15 right now)

AnthonyServinio
07-17-2007, 12:30 AM
who do you have in mind for this (players)

remember youth olympics equate to 14-18 in 2010. (in other words, yung mga 11-15 right now)

* * *FIRST THINGS first, I think we must assemble a team of the finest 19 and below lads for next year's SEABA and FIBA-Asia Junior Championships.* That means choosing from the current crop of college freshmen and some sophomores plus the top high school students.* Here are some of the names that come to mind (I'm not sure when their birthdays are but I hope most of them make the cut-off date).* Please feel free to suggest your additions and subtractions:

Centers and Forwards:

David Paul Marcelo (San Beda)
JR Cawaling (Far Eastern)
Socrates Rivera (UP-Diliman)
Gregory Slaughter (University of the Visayas)
Junemar Fajardo (University of Cebu)
Justin Chua (Chiang Kai Shek HS)
Elvin Jake Pascual (San Beda)
Ryan Buenafe (San Sebastian HS)
Arvie Bringas (San Sebastian HS)
Christopher Louie Alas (Letran HS)
Raymond Leonard Austria (Ateneo)
Nicolas Salva (San Beda HS)
David Webb (De La Salle-Zobel)

Guards:

Garvo Lanete (San Beda)
Bon Jovi Cipriano (Jose Rizal HS)
Jonathan Banal (Mapua Tech)
Franz Dysam (Perpetual Help)
Jeffrey Olalia (Adamson)
Kevin Louie Alas (Letran HS)
Dexter Rosales (UP-Diliman)
Michael Joseph Gamboa (UP-Diliman)

Scout
07-17-2007, 06:24 AM
Pumaren's true mastery of Philippine college basketball is evident.... he as MVP's own choice for the job must be befuddling for some quarters.....

oca
07-17-2007, 09:28 AM
Pumaren's true mastery of Philippine college basketball is evident.... he as MVP's own choice for the job must be befuddling for some quarters.....


I doubt if Pumaren was MVPs choice. IMO, it was Pato's and since MVP has given him his full trust and absolute discretion, the former's decision will be carried out regardless of the latter's opinion. It's unlikely that MVP will actually micro-manage the SBP.

Besides who will deny Franz Pumaren's caliber as a coach. Being a national player himself in his younger years, one who was part of the well-traveled NCC squad, he knows more about the international game than most coaches of his age.

Walang kulay yan, liban sa national colors. ;)

oca
07-17-2007, 09:54 AM
Pumaren coaches RP youth team

The Philippine Star

Franz Pumaren, the multi-titled coach from La Salle, has been tapped to handle the country’s youth team as BAP-SBP continued to chart the future of Philippine basketball........

......San Beda Red Cubs champion coach Ato Badolato and Ateneo Blue Eagles assistant mentor Sandy Arespacochaga will be invited to join Pumaren’s coaching staff.



Ang di ko nagustahan sa press release announcing Franz Pumaren’s appointment is when it stated that Badolato and Arespacochaga will be invited to be part of the team.

To me that’s absolutely wrong. The moment you appoint a head coach, he should be given full discretion whom to take in as assistant or consultant or adviser. The report made no mention that was Pumaren's decision.

Hindi dapat pangunahan. >:(

mighty_lion
07-17-2007, 10:13 AM
Of course we are all familiar with Coach Franz signature type of play; full court press, trapping sets, quick basket transition, etc. Maraming magaling na players sa Juniors at mga rookies sa Seniors pero makapag-adjust kaya lahat prized players sa gustong laro ni Pumaren. Pano ba ang magiging set-up ng selection ng players? Pool system din gaya ng National Pool?

Scout
07-17-2007, 12:01 PM
Pool of players, to be trimmed down slowly to final lineups.

MVP personally talked to Pumaren. There's the rub.

Tryouts maybe unnecessary, after all, we do already know who are qualified... invitations will be sent out to prospects, whether personally or through their respective school authorities.

NCC type of organization will be run.

BigBlue
07-17-2007, 12:03 PM
there's the rub?

what's so extraordinary about mvp doing so? isnt Franz' brother the coach of his PBA team?

pio_valenz
07-17-2007, 03:41 PM
Baka pwede pa si Duncil dito. All he has to do is come up with a third NSO birth certificate showing he was born in 1988.

Mateen Cleaves
07-18-2007, 07:17 AM
Franz is very well qualified, no doubt. But if the objective is to build a program over the long-term, I would have suggested getting a full-time coach (or program manager). If we consider that the Youth program will be the foundation for the national men's squad, mas kailangan pa nga dito ng full-time kesa doon sa senior squad e.

Another suggestion would be to put up three pools of Youth teams, each team headed by a coach from the region na approved ng national Youth coach. Para pagdating ng pilian na for international tournaments, kilala na agad kung sino talaga ang karapat-dapat.

Mikhail
07-18-2007, 09:49 PM
Plus the system for the senior's and the junior teams should be integrated to allow easier transition between "graduating" players from the juniors.

Dapat isama na rin si Franz sa coaching staff ni Chot. ;D

BigBlue
07-18-2007, 10:08 PM
Dapat isama na rin si Franz sa coaching staff ni Chot. ;D


unless MVP does some major arm twisting, or personnel changing, IMO that would be very unlikely.

Scout
07-19-2007, 11:44 AM
^^^

I agree 8)

nightowl
07-20-2007, 10:46 AM
Cawaling will be 20 next month. Late lang nagtapos ng high school yan, kaya rookie pa rin.

Even Slaughter is overage already.

JonarSabilano
07-20-2007, 01:53 PM
Cawaling will be 20 next month. Late lang nagtapos ng high school yan, kaya rookie pa rin.

Even Slaughter is overage already.


Aabot naman siguro sila sa U-21. Yes, even the likes of Gian and Japeth.

Wang-Bu
07-20-2007, 02:27 PM
Ang mga nangunguna na sa listahan ko pagdating sa player na more or less sigurado ako sa edad:

DAVE MARCELO
JUSTIN CHUA
SOC RIVERA
ERWIN DURAN
JAKE PASCUAL
NIKO SALVA
JOSHUA WEBB
JV DUMRIQUE
ARVIE BRINGAS
RYAN BUENAFE
JONAS PAGUIA
JOSEPH MARATA
JV DUMRIQUE
GARVO LANETE
ICE REYES
JUAMI TIONGSON
DEXTER ROSALES
AL BUGARIN
GWAYNE CAPACIO
JEFF OLALIA
AEL BANAL
LESTER CRUZ
KEN ACIBAR
FRANZ DYSAM
BONG BANQUICIO
JERSAM CHIANG
BRYAN GAMMAD
JULIUS WONG
RAYMOND FRAN
GIAN CHIU
LA RIVILLA
MIKE GAMBOA
BACON AUSTRIA
Si FRAN ng Lasalle Greenhills
Si BANAL ng Xavier School

Sa coach naman ok na ako kay Franz Pumaren. Pero sang-ayon ako sa isang punto dito na dapat hayaan si Franz na pumili ng sarili niyang mga assistants. Sa ganang akin ay ino-nominate ko kagad si Coach Rapsa na assistant ngayon ni John Flores sa Ateneo Ladies, at muli si Jamike Jarin. Talagang hindi ko ma-take na nariyan ang isang Sandy Arespacochaga. Pero sige na nga, pagbigyan natin.

gameface_one
10-27-2007, 09:16 AM
RP Youth cagers shine
mb.com.ph





MEMBERS OF the Burlington-RP Youth squads of 2002 and 2004 shone during the UAAP-NCAA showdown for Bantay Bata 163 last month at The Arena in San Juan.


Ogie Menor, who dribbled for the Burlington socks-sponsored 18 years and under national team of 2004 in the SEABA Jrs in Lucena where he won the MVP plum, played a key role for the NCAA All-Stars in drubbing their UAAP counterparts.

Menor, a vital cog in the back-to-back NCAA champion San Beda Red Lions squad, scored 20 points while another Youth cager, Bryan Faundo (RP Youth-2002), helped secure the rebounds and was a stalwart in defense.

Ford Arao, a teammate of Faundo in the 2002 team, drained in 12 markers while Dylan Ababou of RP Youth 2004 contributed 6 points for the UAAP All-Stars.

Jervy Cruz of RP Youth 2004 and Jonathan Fernandez of RP Youth 2002 were also named to the UAAP selection but had to beg off since they were in Korea playing for the RP- Harbour Centre men’s team.

amdgc82
11-10-2007, 06:07 AM
RP Youth starts training in two weeks
By Jasmine W. Payo
Inquirer
Last updated 11:42pm (Mla time) 11/09/2007

MANILA, Philippines--LEARNING ITS LESSONS FROM THE men’s national team debacle, the BAP-Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas will kick off training for the Philippine youth team in two weeks.

“We’re developing young talents,” said BAP-SBP executive director Patrick Gregorio.

National youth coach Franz Pumaren will form a pool of 25 to 30 players aged 16 to 18 years old that will include a sprinkling of foreign cagers with Filipino roots.

Among the leading aspirants are NCAA juniors Most Valuable Player Ryan Buenafe of San Sebastian, San Beda’s Nico Salva and Perpetual Help’s Franz Dysam.

“We’re also eyeing a 15-year-old, 6-foot-5 Fil-Canadian-Italian and another aspirant from Los Angeles,” said Pumaren.

Gregorio said BAP-SBP has also sealed a multi-million sponsorship deal that will bankroll the RP Youth for three years.

“We will take care of this group,” said Gregorio.

amdgc82
11-26-2007, 06:30 AM
Massive build-up for RP youth cage team
By Julius Manicad
The Daily Tribune
11/26/2007

Hopefully, the RP Youth team that the cage officials are forming will be as competitive as they should be in time for two international tournaments next year.

It’s because it is already much too late, since the team will have barely six months to prepare for the Seaba Youth basketball tournament in May, and the Asian Youth sometime in September next year.

Franz Pumaren, head coach of the RP Youth squad, revealed the blueprint for the formation of a competitive squad, and that they are already in the process of identifying the potential talents.

He, together with his deputies Ato Badolato of San Beda College and Sandy Arespacochaga of Ateneo de Manila University, is set to name 24 rising stars this week where 12 will be selected to don the national colors.

Among the early qualifiers are Ryan Buenafe and Arvie Bringas of San Sebastian College, Nico Salva of San Beda, Marco Fortuna and Bryan Manguera of De La Salle Zobel and Niko Monachini, a 6-foot-5 Filipino-Canadian standout. Pumaren, however, explained that the pool is still open and “anybody who has the talent and national interest is still welcome to come in.”

But first, he should be born on or after 1990.

“The batch of 1990 is a relatively deep pool. And it makes our job of trimming the list to 24 a lot tougher,” Pumaren, the chief engineer of the De La Salle University dynasty in the UAAP, said during the inauguration of the brand-new office of BAP-Samahang Basketbol ng PIlipinas at the Philsports compound recently.

“We have to set the foundation as early as now because these kids will be the future of our international team. This early, we have to instill to them the pride and honor of playing for the national team.”

BAP-SBP president Manny Pangilinan earlier announced that the youth squad, along with the national basketball training center and women’s national team, will have a staggering P76.5 million allotment from private donors starting next year until the next three years.

He said Nokia and TAO Corp., a business and pharmaceutical firm, have also pledged their support for the housing and education of the youth training pool, giving the 18-under squad something to look forward for.

And that’s exactly how Pumaren envisions it.

amdgc82
11-26-2007, 10:41 AM
http://businessmirror.com.ph/11262007/sports03.html

P76.5M for ‘Youth’
By Joel Orellana
Reporter
Business Mirror
MON NOVEMBER 26, 2007

THE country’s youth basketball program has gotten a generous sponsor in TAO Corp., which is shelling out P76.5 million to finance the search and training of members of future national teams.

This was announced by Basketball Association of the Philippines-Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (BAP-SBP) president Manny V. Pangilinan, who added that TAO Corp. would be supporting the program for the next three years.

One of the major goals of the youth team, Pangilinan said, is to qualify for the 2010 World Youth Championships.

De La Salle coach Franz Pumaren is handling the team of players aged 18 and under. The team’s first test would be the Southeast Asia Basketball Association Youth tournament in Malaysia in May. Its next stop will be the Asian Youth Championships in Iran in 2009.

According to BAP-SBP secretary-general Patrick Gregorio, TAO Corp., owned by Julio Sy Sr., is honored about helping the youth squad. The amount will be spread in three years—P21.5 million for the first year, P25 million for the second year and P30 million on the final year.

Pumaren said the coaching staff, composed of Sandy Arespacochaga of Ateneo and Ato Badolato of San Beda, has already identified a pool of talents from different parts of the country.

“What we want to establish right now is to bring the honor and pride of wearing the national colors. Before, the player’s goal is to play for high-school, college, then RP Team then PBA [Philippine Basketball Association]. We want to bring back the honor and pride of wearing the national colors first,” said Pumaren.

The coaching staff named aspirants from the National Capital Region (NCR), Cagayan de Oro, Bacolod City, Cebu City, Pampanga and Tarlac. Pumaren, however, clarified that the list is not yet final.

“For sure, we missed out several names. Maraming talents available including those in other countries who signified their intention to play for the national team,” said Pumaren.

“Our goal right now in the next five days is to identify the Final 18 or Final 20 after a week. Then we’ll go to provinces and watch them, then we determine who fits into the type of the game we want,” Pumaren added.

He revealed that the program will be similar to the NCC squad of coach Ron Jacobs during the 1980s where Pumaren played in.

“Let’s face it. Filipinos really mature late so additional exposures are needed. We will have overseas training, maybe in China, Korea and the US where we will play against Division III schools there,” Pumaren explained.

The notables in the team include Ryan Buenafe and Arvin Bringas of San Sebastian High School, Jeric Fortuna and Jed Manguera of La Salle-Zobel, Mark Lopez of University of the Philippines and Nico Salva of San Beda. Pumaren also mentioned that Nico Monachini, a six-foot-five Filipino-Canadian with a six-foot-11 wingspan, has expressed his willingness to play for the country.

http://businessmirror.com.ph/11262007/images/sports-pic03.jpg

AnthonyServinio
11-26-2007, 11:51 AM
http://businessmirror.com.ph/11262007/images/sports-pic03.jpg

* * *Good thing and there are no more PCCr players on this list.* Before, one must be enrolled at PCCr in order to be part of the Junior NT!* *::)

* * *Having players from the Vis-Min area is long overdue in order for the team to be called a true and real "National" team!

oca
11-26-2007, 12:37 PM
* * *Good thing and there are no more PCCr players on this list.* Before, one must be enrolled at PCCr in order to be part of the Junior NT!* *::)

* * *Having players from the Vis-Min area is long overdue in order for the team to be called a true and real "National" team!


Inevitably, these kids from Vis-Min who become part of the team will have to transfer schools here in Manila.

Now, who will say to what school these kids will/ should enroll?

Ngayon pa lang, nakikita ko na gagawing isyu yan.

bluebruiser90
11-26-2007, 12:58 PM
Bakit wala yung Justin Chua at si Webb ng DLSZ?

onggok
11-26-2007, 01:00 PM
Can anybody gives the height,weight, and age specially those kids come the province.

oca
11-26-2007, 01:02 PM
Bakit wala yung Justin Chua at si Webb ng DLSZ?


Maybe they were born before 1990....

bluegirl
11-26-2007, 02:48 PM
justin chua was born 1989. kaya di umabot. nanghinayang nga sya eh. he wanted to join pa naman sana.

mighty_lion
11-26-2007, 03:09 PM
Sana sinama na nila yong 6'7 na Paredes?

thadzonline
11-26-2007, 03:42 PM
Sana sinama na nila yong 6'7 na Paredes?


I think kasama na man si Philipi Paredes of Sacred Heart High in CDO



Can anybody gives the height,weight, and age specially those kids come the province.


From Cebu:
Adriano Lao is listed 6'6" C
Sylvester Tancongco is listed at 6'3" wing

am not sure kina Villanil and Cabahug

yungha
11-26-2007, 10:18 PM
i also figure erwin duran's already overaged because otherwise, he's definitely a lot better than golla of Ateneo or lozano of UP.

mighty_lion
11-26-2007, 10:49 PM
Sana sinama na nila yong 6'7 na Paredes?


I think kasama na man si Philipi Paredes of Sacred Heart High in CDO



^ Thanks. Naoverlook ko.

thadzonline
11-26-2007, 11:08 PM
no problemo....

amdgc82
11-27-2007, 06:05 AM
Franz forms 55-man RP Youth pool
By Jasmine W. Payo
Inquirer
Last updated 07:03am (Mla time) 11/26/2007

MANILA, Philippines -- National coach Franz Pumaren has formed a 55-man pool for the Philippine Youth Team even as the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas unveiled a three-year, multimillion-peso basketball program backed by mobile phone giant Nokia.

Pumaren said the candidates, 18 years and younger face a long, rugged and hectic schedule that includes overseas training and stints in international youth tournaments.

“This is important for us because this batch will probably carry the men’s team in the near future,” said Pumaren.

Practice will start Wednesday from 6 to 8 p.m. at the Blue Eagle Gym in Loyola Heights, Quezon City.

Members of UAAP juniors champion La Salle Zobel and three-time NCAA juniors titlist San Sebastian banner the list of aspirants set to train in the United States, South Korea and China before vying in the Seaba juniors championship in May next year in Malaysia.

NCAA juniors MVP Ryan Buenafe leads the candidates along with Staglets teammate Arvie Bringas, Junior Archers Jeric Fortuna and Jed Manguera, Ateneo’s Juami Tiongson and JV Dumrique, San Beda’s Nico Salva and Benedictine’s Clark Bautista.

Fil-Canadian Niko Monachini, a 6-foot-5 center-forward, has also been invited along with standouts from the provinces.

Nokia, along with Tao Corp., has pledged a multimillion sponsorship for the youth squad that’s also set to compete in the 2008 Asian Youth and the first 2010 Youth Olympics.

thadzonline
11-27-2007, 07:52 AM
btw, mighty_lion, are ou from SBC? If so, I've heard Philip Paredes is being eyed by San Beda. Has he signified interest?

LION
11-27-2007, 08:17 AM
It is Philip Paredes who is eyeing San Beda and Ato Badolato. :)

Semenelin
11-27-2007, 09:17 AM
Hehe, why isn't Rey Parks not included ;D

JonarSabilano
11-27-2007, 12:55 PM
Looks like the Niko Monachini kid isn't a slouch. In a provincial track meet earlier this year, he got 13.42m on the triple jump, good for second place.

However, he's also part of the British Columbia Elite training squad. If he's selected to the Canadian U-19 team and he accepts, he won't be able to play for Team Pilipinas anymore. I just hope the coaching staff have something up their sleeves that will make the kid play here.

mighty_lion
11-27-2007, 01:11 PM
btw, mighty_lion, are ou from SBC? If so, I've heard Philip Paredes is being eyed by San Beda. Has he signified interest?


Yes. Im rooting for SBC, but im no insider. Not even a semi-insider. Safe to say hardcore homer for RL and RC.

I saw Paredes once in Nike Summer Camp last summer. All I know is that he was recruited by Senor Ato but later on did enroll in SBC.

LION
11-27-2007, 01:27 PM
^ It's because his dad could not bear to be separated from his son. Hindi pinayagan ng tatay. But next year baka pwede na. Gustong gusto ng anak, kaya lang ayaw mawalay ng tatay. An elder brother found a job this year here in Manila and this might pave the way for Paredes' transfer.

Schortsanitis
11-27-2007, 01:43 PM
Looks like the Niko Monachini kid isn't a slouch. In a provincial track meet earlier this year, he got 13.42m on the triple jump, good for second place.

However, he's also part of the British Columbia Elite training squad. If he's selected to the Canadian U-19 team and he accepts, he won't be able to play for Team Pilipinas anymore. I just hope the coaching staff have something up their sleeves that will make the kid play here.


Basketball I think is a lot more popular here than in Canada, so I think it is in his best interest to play for Philippines than in Canada.

thadzonline
11-27-2007, 02:53 PM
^ It's because his dad could not bear to be separated from his son. Hindi pinayagan ng tatay. But next year baka pwede na. Gustong gusto ng anak, kaya lang ayaw mawalay ng tatay. An elder brother found a job this year here in Manila and this might pave the way for Paredes' transfer.


yup, I heard this story that Paredes' parents find Manila too far away..hmm, separation anxiety?

Semenelin
11-28-2007, 12:41 AM
wla rin si ravena... sa tingin ko mas malaki yun chance nya magNBA kung magkakatawan lng sya at steady yun improvement nya. height is a good plus for any baller ;D

onggok
12-04-2007, 06:07 PM
sino-sino ba ang napili ni Franz Pumaren sa RP youth . Sana kunin nilang lahat iyong mga batang matatangkad (13-16 yrs old) kahit na hindi magaling kasi at this age kaya pa nilang turuan ng right fundamental of Basketball. At kung puede, kailangan suyurin ang buong philippines from region 1 to 12. mayroon bang anak sina Polistico,Bolado,Omanzie Rodriguez,Rysal castro,yancy de Ocampo? kaya ko tinatanong kasi baka sa kanila makakuwa ng potential center, power forward, and tall small forward ang National Team.

kuyukz
12-05-2007, 02:35 AM
is niko monachini filipino? because this site says that he is a italian american..

http://www.usbasket.com/player.asp?Cntry=USA&PlayerID=139771

Ghostrider
12-28-2007, 10:03 AM
I watched the tryouts held last December 23, 2007 at the Jacinto Tiu Gym, Xavier school.

The way I saw it, it was a collection of the usual faces. The only "new" players I saw were Arnold Van Opstal of DLZ (legit 6'4) and Tanuan (son of the late Jack) of BIS.

Ryan Buenafe's squad totally destroyed the opposing 5, employing a suffocating trap which saw them prevent the other team from crossing the midcourt line and turning over the ball five consecutive times.

Some of the big names were absent, probably due to the proximity to the holiday season.

Dave Dichupa and Awoo Lacson were also there, intently scouting a 5'7.5 point guard from a Manila based school as replacement for Tyrone Tang.

I took alot of pictures and will be sharing them soon.

Schortsanitis
01-03-2008, 09:41 AM
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storyPage.aspx?storyId=104230

Sports (as of 1/3/2008 3:15 AM)

Sons Of Ex-cagers Rise In Youth Tryout

By NELSON BELTRAN
The Philippine Star

Gabriel Banal, Gwyne Capacio, Anton Altamirano and Jeric Teng are four of seven second-generation players heading the list of 20 players who made the latest cut in the ongoing tryout for the RP Youth team to the coming SEABA youth champion in Malaysia in May.

Nicolas Salva, Jed Manguera and Joseph Marata are the other second-generation players very much in contention for the team being groomed to make the Asian youth championship in Iran in September and the First Youth Olympics in 2010.

Gabriel, Gwyne, Anton and Jeric are sons of former national players who later played in the PBA.

Gabriel’s father is Alaska assistant coach Joel, Gwyne is FEU coach Glen’s first boy, Anton is National Youth Training Center supervisor Eric’s kid while Jeric’s dad is former PBA enforcer Alvin.

The fathers of Salva, Manguera and Marata played college ball.

Six-foot-6 center Philip Paredes from Cagayan de Oro, 6-foot-1 wingman John Ray Sumido from Iloilo and 6-foot-3 forward Jairold Flores from Negros Occidental were three players left from the 14 out-of-towners brought in by the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas for a tryout from Dec. 26-30.

The other remaining hopefuls are La Salle-Zobel’s Luigi dela Paz, JRU’s Jerome Cruz and Jerome Ramos, FEU’s Ryan Roose Garcia, Ateneo’s Frank Golla, UPIS’ Joel Tolentino, UP’s Mark Lopez and Don Carlo Fortu, NU’s Joseph Terso and Mark Jovet Mendoza, Adamson’s Andrew Penan and Southridge’s Andrew Felix.

"These are guys showing dedication and commitment to the team. Most probably 16 will be left for the pool with the four to join the National Youth Training Center for possible use in the national team in the future," said RP youth coach Franz Pumaren.

Conspicuously missing in the list are NCAA juniors MVP Ryan Buenafe and fellow San Sebastian Staglets standout Arvy Bringas. The two showed up in the tryouts only in its early stages last November.

Seven out of the remaining hopefuls stand at least 6-foot-3. These are Salva, Cruz, Ramos, Golla, Penan, Paredes and Flores.

All the hopefuls are 17 years old or below. Capacio, Dela Paz and Paredes are the youngest at 15.

But Pumaren said they’re not yet closing the door on other players especially those from the provinces. He said he’ll also take a look on Fil-Am talents as he brings the pool to the US for a two-week training in March.

One player being recommended is 6-foot-5 Fil-Italian Nico Monachini who plays for University of British Columbia in Canada.

Pumaren said among his goals is to bring back honor and prestige in representing the country in international competitions.

"I just feel that the last few years, playing for the country is no longer among the ambitions of our young players. Whereas before players were looking to play in college, the national team then the PBA, nowadays the priority it seems is college ball then the PBA," said Pumaren.

"I want to bring the RP team back in the equation," added Pumaren, a member of the RP team that last won the Asian championship in Malaysia in 1986.

Pumaren knows that he has a tough job, considering the fact that the Philippines last won the Asian youth championship in 1982.

"Hopefully, with the program that we have, we can end the title drought. We set a three-year program. Our target is to make it to the First Youth Olympics in 2010," said Pumaren.

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JonarSabilano
01-03-2008, 09:50 AM
I watched the tryouts held last December 23, 2007 at the Jacinto Tiu Gym, Xavier school.

The way I saw it, it was a collection of the usual faces.* The only "new" players I saw were Arnold Van Opstal of DLZ (legit 6'4) and Tanuan (son of the late Jack) of BIS.

Ryan Buenafe's squad totally destroyed the opposing 5, employing a suffocating trap which saw them prevent the other team from crossing the midcourt line and turning over the ball five consecutive times.

Some of the big names were absent, probably due to the proximity to the holiday season.

Dave Dichupa and Awoo Lacson were also there, intently scouting a 5'7.5 point guard from a Manila based school as replacement for Tyrone t@ng.

I took alot of pictures and will be sharing them soon.


Ghostrider, if Buenafe's team demolished the opposition on December 23, how come the article says he and Bringas showed up only in November?

Schortsanitis
01-03-2008, 09:55 AM
* *From the article, below is the list of 22 aspirants for the RP Youth team:

1) *Philip Paredes (6'6", Center, Cagayan de Oro)
2) *John Ray Sumido (6'1", Guard, Iloilo)
3) *Jairold Flores (6'3", Forward, Negros Occidental)
4) *Luigi dela Paz (La Salle-Zobel)
5) *Jerome Cruz (JRU)
6) *Jerome Ramos (JRU)
7) *Ryan Roose Garcia (FEU)
8) *Frank Golla (ADMU)
9) *Joel Tolentino (UPIS)
10) *Mark Lopez (6'3", UP)
11) *Don Carlo Fortu (UP)
12) *Joseph Terso (NU) - 2006 UAAP Juniors Mythical Team
13) *Mark Jovet Mendoza (NU) - 2006 UAAP Juniors Mythical Team
14) *Andrew Penan (Adamson)
15) *Andrew Felix (Southridge)
16) *Gabriel Banal (Xavier)
17) *Gwyne Capacio
18) *Anton Altamirano
19) *Jeric Teng
20) *Nicolas Salva (SBC)
21) *Jed Manguera (DLSZ)
22) *Joseph Marata

* *It seems that the coaching staff went for younger players, 17 years old & below, leaving out a couple of other candidates that would otherwise been eligible for the 19 & under team. *The only name players I know here, are Paredes, Salva & Marata. *I trust in the Coaching Staff, though, that they will come up w/ a competitive team, as well as develop some of the "unknown" players here into even better players for the next basketball level. *

marmand
01-03-2008, 11:46 AM
Also missing from the list is the pont guard La Salle is scouting to replace TY Tang. ???

Ghostrider
01-03-2008, 12:11 PM
Ghostrider, if Buenafe's team demolished the opposition on December 23, how come the article says he and Bringas showed up only in November?


Either of two things. Either this youth team being pertained to is for the 17 and under tournament or Eric Altamirano's SBP-TAO youth program is different from Franz's team.

I think its the former as I watched Ryan play in the 1-5pm session (17-19 years old) whereas the 8-12am session was supposedly for the 14 and under 17 kids.

In any case, I think the writer is severely confused as Coach Ato is supposed to handle 14 and under, Coach Sandy is handling the 14 to under 17 team while Coach Franz is supposed to handle the 17-19 youth team. Panaghalo-halo ni Mr. Beltran ang tatlong youth categories.

Schortsanitis
01-03-2008, 12:26 PM
I think the SBP should release an official update to the press on what is going on, to prevent confusion. Am pretty sure a lot of other fans are also excited, & closely monitoring these new Youth teams.

LION
01-03-2008, 01:45 PM
Also missing from the list is the pont guard La Salle is scouting to replace TY t@ng. ???


LA Revilla.

Ghostrider
01-03-2008, 02:06 PM
I checked the releases, this youth team is for the SEABA juniors championships.

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Lion,

The new PG being eyed is not LA Revilla. Awoo and Dave got his contact details from the SBP secretariat. It's a relatively unknown player whose name has not yet been mentioned in any of the forums.

However, from the little that I gathered, he is currently enrolled in a school along Taft avenue. ???

LION
01-03-2008, 03:39 PM
Thanks Ghost.

I thought the earlier post alluded to LA Revilla because DLSU is also interested in the kid, and he's the only 5'7 pg known to be included in DLSU's shortlist.

I'm surprised why Martin Reyes of LSGH is not included in the list of aspirants. Is he over the age limit?

mighty_lion
01-03-2008, 04:02 PM
OT:

Let me guess. Sa english we call it nail. Sa tagalog pako. Sa bisaya ______. Sorry na lang kayo kung di nyo alam. Actually maraming version ang bisaya. :D

If I am hitting the right guy he is certaily a blue chipper. Unknown siguro sa mga fans and forums but certainly not with the likes of college coaches and team managers.

Schortsanitis
01-03-2008, 04:25 PM
OT:

Let me guess. Sa english we call it nail. Sa tagalog pako. Sa bisaya ______. Sorry na lang kayo kung di nyo alam.* Actually maraming version ang bisaya. :D

If I am hitting the right guy he is certaily a blue chipper. Unknown siguro sa mga fans and forums but certainly not with the likes of college coaches and team managers.


L _ _ _ _ _ _ G

oca
01-03-2008, 04:33 PM
OT:

Let me guess. Sa english we call it nail. Sa tagalog pako. Sa bisaya ______. Sorry na lang kayo kung di nyo alam.* Actually maraming version ang bisaya. :D

If I am hitting the right guy he is certaily a blue chipper. Unknown siguro sa mga fans and forums but certainly not with the likes of college coaches and team managers.




In an earlier post, it was mentioned that this kid is enrolled in a school located at Taft.

Alam kong may Ralph LANSANG sa PCU Baby Dolphins.

Kung tama ang bilang ko ng eligibility niya, this last NCAA season would have been his breakout year, too bad suspended ang PCU. (The season before that, Anacta,now an aspirant at San Beda, was their main pg.) The kid must have improved a lot, notwithstanding the Baby Dolphins' absence from top level competition, to get the attention of come coaches.

Pero kung meron kayong alam na ibang pako or nail then it must be another kid.

marmand
01-03-2008, 04:52 PM
La Salle is very much interested in Revilla. Awoo assures it. ;)

mighty_lion
01-03-2008, 11:02 PM
OT:

Let me guess. Sa english we call it nail. Sa tagalog pako. Sa bisaya ______. Sorry na lang kayo kung di nyo alam.* Actually maraming version ang bisaya. :D

If I am hitting the right guy he is certaily a blue chipper. Unknown siguro sa mga fans and forums but certainly not with the likes of college coaches and team managers.




In an earlier post, it was mentioned that this kid is enrolled in a school located at Taft.

Alam kong may Ralph LANSANG sa PCU Baby Dolphins.

Kung tama ang bilang ko ng eligibility niya, this last NCAA season would have been his breakout year, too bad suspended ang PCU. (The season before that, Anacta,now an aspirant at San Beda, was their main pg.) The kid must have improved a lot, notwithstanding the Baby Dolphins' absence from top level competition, to get the attention of come coaches.

Pero kung meron kayong alam na ibang pako or nail then it must be another kid.



Asan na ba si Inday at si Dodong? Parang an tagal na nilang hindi nagrereport dito ah.

Seriously an tagal ko nang inaantay marining kung sino ang suitor(s) nung bata. Now that PCU is out of NCAA (sure na nga ba?) its not hard to expect that this kid will play somewhere else come college. I cant directly assess how good this guy play nung high school simply si Jake lang ang kilala ko sa PCU. Even nung finals nila against Staglets, Pascual was the most noticeable. But the fact they say he is better than Anacta and eventually made it to the mythical five as back-up PG then he must be good.

Going back to Youth Team, I am concerned with the height of our players. Not that this is a new issue na maliit ang pinoy but id like to post few questions here. Allowed na ba at this level ang naturalized player(s)? Meron bang plano ang SBP to field-in naturalized players sa NT in the coming years to address the height issue? If the answer to both of my questions are yes then why not start the recruitment and training process for naturalized players now.

I would understand the 3 year program but somehow we have to admit it we need "big's" for a legitimate title run nowadays. With these I say SBP should already consider 5-10 year plan for at least three players that will address our need for future big men.

amdgc82
01-05-2008, 08:55 AM
http://www.mindanews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3572&Itemid=61

Malaybalay cager is lone Mindanawon in RP youth team* * * *
Walter I. Balane/MindaNews* * *
Wednesday, 02 January 2008 12:07*

MALAYBALAY CITY –* A very tall 15-year old from this city is the lone Mindanawon in the country’s youth basketball team.

The Basketball Association of the Philippines–Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (BAP-SBP) has included in its line-up 6’5” tall Philip Paredes of Barangay 7 as a member of the RP youth basketball team to play in international competitions.
Paredes was chosen to be in the 20-member team after the tryout at the Rizal Stadium in Metro Manila from December 26 to 30.

BAP–SBP, under the auspices of the National Sports Commission organized the team following the International Olympic Committee's announcement of the staging of the first ever Youth Olympics in 2010 featuring athletes 14 to 18 years old.

Paredes told MindaNews the team will see action in the upcoming SEABA juniors' championships in May and in the Asian Youth Championships in September 2008.

He said they were informed by their coaches of a plan to train in the United States in March. Regular practice starts in January in Manila.

Paredes' mother, Lilia, a police officer, told MindaNews they are proud of their son's inclusion in the RP youth team.

She said being included in the list of qualified young players to try out was already something, especially for a boy who was born and raised in Bukidnon.

Six Mindanawons made it to the qualifying list for the try outs, three from Davao City and three from Cagayan de Oro City and Bukidnon, including himself and Michael Sorela of Valencia City.

The youth team is composed of 17 athletes from Luzon, two from the Visayas and himself, Paredes told MindaNews Tuesday.

Paredes’ mother said one concern they have yet to hurdle is if his son's school will allow him to attend practices in Manila. She said arrangements have yet to be made.

She said BAP-SBP sent a message that they would contact his son’s school.
a text message from BAP – SBP that they will contact his school for the arrangements.

Paredes graduated from the Bukidnon State University-Elementary School Laboratory and is now is a third year high school student at the Sacred Heart of Jesus Montessori in Cagayan de Oro City.

He was discovered by basketball star Chito Loyzaga, of the SMB team, who conducted a basketball clinic in BSU while Paredes was a fifth grader.

Paredes has been a member of youth basketball teams that won championships in the country, including the Philippine Olympic Festival National Finals in November 2007, as part of the Cagayan de Oro Basketball team. (Walter I. Balane/MindaNews)* *

kryptonite
01-05-2008, 09:30 AM
Mahirap na umasenso sa Asian Juniors and Asian Youth Championships kasi malamang puro over-aged na mga pinapadala ng ibang countries tulad ng Middle Eastern countries. Lamang sa size, heft, experience at gulang ang mga yun. Dapat siguro i-train yung mga junior players natin against the PBA.

gameface_one
01-05-2008, 11:10 PM
From Shcort's list, find below the 20 aspirants presented to the press early this evening. this list will further be trimmed down to 16 or 17 after 1 or 2 weeks.


1) Philip Paredes (6'6", Center, Cagayan de Oro)
2) Luigi dela Paz (La Salle-Zobel)
3) Jerome Cruz (JRU)
4) Jerome Ramos (JRU)
5) Frank Golla (ADMU)
6) Joel Tolentino (UPIS)
7) Mark Lopez (6'3", UP)
8) Don Carlo Fortu (UP)
9) Joseph Terso (NU) - 2006 UAAP Juniors Mythical Team
10) Mark Jovet Mendoza (NU) - 2006 UAAP Juniors Mythical Team
11) Andrew Penan (Adamson)
12) Andrew Felix (Southridge)
13) Gabriel Banal (Xavier)
14) Gwyne Capacio (DLSZ)
15) Anton Altamirano (SBC)
16) Jeric Teng (Xavier)
17) Nicolas Salva (SBC)
18) Jed Manguera (DLSZ)
19) Joseph Marata (UP)
20) Mark de Guzman (CSB)


Franz said that they are still open for a try-out for the Fil-Canadian (6-5/6-6), brother of Holper, and brother of Gabe Norwood. They are just waiting for their schedules to be cleared.

The RP Youth Team will compete in the SEABA in May and in the Asian Youth Championships in September.

Schortsanitis
01-06-2008, 10:57 AM
From Shcort's list, find below the 20 aspirants presented to the press early this evening. this list will further be trimmed down to 16 or 17 after 1 or 2 weeks.


1)* Philip Paredes (6'6", Center, Cagayan de Oro)
2)* Luigi dela Paz (La Salle-Zobel)
3)* Jerome Cruz (JRU)
4)* Jerome Ramos (JRU)
5)* Frank Golla (ADMU)
6)* Joel Tolentino (UPIS)
7)* Mark Lopez (6'3", UP)
8)* Don Carlo Fortu (UP)
9)* Joseph Terso (NU) - 2006 UAAP Juniors Mythical Team
10)* Mark Jovet Mendoza (NU) - 2006 UAAP Juniors Mythical Team
11)* Andrew Penan (Adamson)
12)* Andrew Felix (Southridge)
13)* Gabriel Banal (Xavier)
14)* Gwyne Capacio (DLSZ)
15)* Anton Altamirano (SBC)
16)* Jeric Teng (Xavier)
17)* Nicolas Salva (SBC)
18)* Jed Manguera (DLSZ)
19)* Joseph Marata (UP)
20) Mark de Guzman (CSB)


Franz said that they are still open for a try-out for the Fil-Canadian (6-5/6-6), brother of Holper, and brother of Gabe Norwood. They are just waiting for their schedules to be cleared.

The RP Youth Team will compete in the SEABA in May and in the Asian Youth Championships in September.


The final 20 aspirants were already presented to the Press yest. evening? As per their original schedule, they were supposed to be having the NCR Regional Camp this weekend, then the Cebu Regional Camp, plus the Mindanao tryouts & Mindanao Regional Camp later this month?

It seems they made changes in their original schedule I summarized in another thread.

Very short team, though, at least compared to what China, & maybe even South Korea is having.

Ghostrider
01-06-2008, 02:54 PM
I don't know if i got this correctly, but from what I heard from Coach Eric yesterday, The tryouts conducted at Xavier were for the National Basketball Training pool not the Youth team.

That explains why Ryan Buenafe was present at this event but not at the Youth tryouts.

Those selected in the abovementioned tryouts form the pool from which the Youth and eventually, the Men's teams will be selected.

More on this when I speak with Coach Eric.

amdgc82
01-07-2008, 06:19 AM
http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/01072008/sports01.html

‘Willing to set aside varsity glamour for national pride’
By Joel Orellana
Reporter

THE funding, the talent and the system are now in place for the P80-million three-year program of the Philippine youth team.

What remains is the players’ absolute commitment.

For the ambitious project to run according to plan, the young aspirants must make the ultimate sacrifice of foregoing any ambition to play for top-notch universities.

Such a commitment is needed because officials of the Basketball Association of the Philippines-Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (BAP-SBP) are looking at an intensive training schedule for the youngsters who will need to set aside varsity glamour for national pride as early as this year.

“Their schedule will be very hectic that’s why we’re contemplating for these players to skip the 2008 season of the UAAP [University Athtletic Association of the Philippines] or NCAA [National Collegiate Athletic Association] para maging mas-focused sa training,” said BAP-SBP executive director Patrick Gregorio.

“That’s why we’re trying to reach a consensus here. It’s not the policy of the SBP to dictate on their schools. But it will be very hard for them if they are attending the practice of the RP team, their school and then nag-aaral pa,” Gregorio added.

The idea popped up during a get together arranged by the federation Saturday night for the families of the aspirants at Barbara’s restaurant inside the historic Intramuros in Manila.

BAP-SBP president Manny V. Pangilinan admitted the federation still has a lot of work to do in terms of the academics of the would-be members of the RP youth team that will be coached by Franz Pumaren.

“The reactions [of the schools of the players] have been mixed. We’re still reaching out to them but we cannot dictate on them because it’s never been the policy of the SBP,” said Pangilinan.

”We still have a lot of work to do. And this will not be fixed overnight,” the telecommunication mogul added.

The father of aspirant Joel Tolentino of the University of the Philippines Integrated School raised the possibility that his son will make the final cut of the RP team and at the same time be included in the varsity team as most of the 20-member pool will enter college next school year.

Gregorio assured the parents that the matter will be taken up by the federation.

The 20 aspirants were officially introduced in the dinner-cum-assembly also attended by TAO Corp. president Julio Sy Jr., the chief financier of the multimillion-peso program, and William Hamilton-Whyte, country general-manager of Nokia Philippines, also a major supporter of the team.

Besides Tolentino, also named to the pool were Gabriel Banal, Anton Altamirano, Jeric Teng, Gwyne Capacio, Nicolas Salva, Jed Manguera, Joseph Marata, Philip Paredes, John Ray Sumido, Jairold Flores, Luigi de la Paz, Jerome Cruz, Jerome Ramos, Ryan Roose Garcia, Frank Golla, Mark Lopez, Don Carlo Fortu, Joseph Terso, Mark Jovet Mendoza, Andrew Penan and Andrew Felix.

Pumaren said the pool’s composition is not yet final. He is still talking with six-foot-five Nico Monachini, a Filipino with Italian and Canadian blood, and the brothers of professional player Mike Holper and RP team player Gabe Norwood.

Two promising high-school standouts, Ryan Buenafe and Arvy Bringas of San Sebastian juniors squad, were dropped because they only showed up in the early part of the tryout.

“What we’re looking [at] here are the passion, dedication and commitment to serve the country. And these high-school players who are here are willing to serve the country at their early age,” Pumaren said.

Pumaren said he will prune the pool to 16 in a week’s time. The team will fly to the US on the third week of March to train under renowned American Joe Abunassar whose former students include National Basketball Association stars Kevin Garnett, Baron Davis and Chauncey Billups.

The youth team will compete in the Southeast Asia Basketball Association Youth Championships in Malaysia in May and in the Fiba-Asia under-18 in Iran in September. Its ultimate goal is to qualify for the World Youth Championship in 2010.

As for Pumaren’s status at De La Salle, he said he will continue to coach the reigning UAAP champion Green Archers this season, while handling the youth team at the same time

amdgc82
01-07-2008, 06:23 AM
http://www.journal.com.ph/index.php?issue=2008-01-07&sec=7&aid=44993

Complete focus on RP Youth team needed *

PAGING mother schools of all members of the Philippine Youth basketball team, especially those from the University Athletic Association of the Philippines (UAAP) and the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA).
* *
Owing to two major international tournaments lined up for the under-18 cage squad this year, no less than the top hierarchy of the BAP-Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (BAP-SBP) is appealing for the respective schools involved to allow their players to skip the 2007-08 collegiate season.
* *
“This program demands commitment from the players and the coaching staff and it also demands cooperation from the schools, but as of now, we are getting mixed reactions. We have some convincing to do,” said BAP-SBP president Manny V. Pangilinan during the team presentation Saturday night
* *
“We are not completely there yet, pero dapat maisip ng mga school administrators na dapat mauna ang bansa before school. But we know it’s not that simple,” he added.
* *
The team, mentored by Franz Pumaren and backed by Tao Corporation headed by its president Jun Sy, is scheduled to compete in the Southeast Asian Basketball Association (SEABA) Championship in Malaysia this summer, a tournament that serves as qualifier to the Asian Youth Championship in Iran slated in September.
* *
The collegiate season is calendared beginning June until middle of October.
* *
BAP-SBP executive director Patrick Gregorio stressed that suiting up for the national squad and playing for the school at the same time* could really be taxing and take its on the young players themselves.
* *
“Everybody should understand that the national squad will have a very hectic program. There is a plan to reach out to schools, ask if there’s a way na hindi muna maglaro ang mga players sa collegiate for 2008. But it has to be consensus, we cannot dictate what they should do,” Gregorio said.
* *
Behind an P80 million war chest provided by Tao Corporation, the Youth team is seeking to regain the lost glory the country once enjoyed in the 18-under group, which the Filipinos last topped in 1982 when the Philippines hosted the Asian Youth meet.
* *
Coached back then by Ron Jacobs, the team was composed of the late Alfie Almario, Hector Calma, Pumaren, Tonichi Yturri, among others.
* *
“Back in the 80’s they were able to do it because they were focused on the program. I firmly believe we can do it again if given ample time to prepare. But the best way to prepare is to concentrate on the preparation. ” Gregorio added.
* *
Comprising Pumaren’s Youth squad this time are Nicolas Salva and Anton Altamirano of San Beda, Mark de Guzman of College of St. Benilde, and Jerome Cruz and Jerome Ramos of Jose Rizal University, all from the NCAA while Gwyne Capacio, Luigi dela Paz and Jed Manguera of La Salle-Zobel, Joseph Marata, Don Carlo Fortu and Mark Lopez of University of the Philippines, Mark Jovet Mendoza and Joseph Terso of National University, Joel Tolentino of UPIS, Frank Golla of Ateneo and Andrew Penan of Adamson represent the UAAP side.
* *
Others who made the 20-man cut include Gabriel Banal and Jeric Teng of Xavier, Andrew Felix of Southridge and Philip Paredes from Cagayan de Oro.
* *
Teng is son of former pro Alvin, so with Altamirano (Eric), Banal (Joel) and Capacio (Glenn), all of whom were also present during the ceremony along with BAP-SBP vice-chairman Ricky Vargas, RP men’s coach Chot Reyes and women’s counterpart Fritz Gaston.
* *
“It’s a three-year program that will try to bring back the Philippines in the map of our Asian neighbors,” said Pumaren, adding the team is set to train in the US at the Joe Abunassar center.
* *
Pumaren said the final 17-man line-up will be announced by next week.
* *
Meanwhile, Pangilinan said he is willing to pass the presidency of the BAP-SBP to someone ‘who is capable of handling the national basketball affairs.’
* *
“I don’t intend to cling to this post. I just took it when it was offered to me for the country. I prefer to hand it (the presidency) to somebody capable. It is good to have a change of blood,” he said.
* *
The BAP-SBP is set to hold its first ever national election this April to replace the transition leadership of Pangilinan. Former Congressman Prospero Pichay, also president of the National Chess Federation of the Philippines (NCFP) has signified his intention to run for the post.

amdgc82
01-07-2008, 06:30 AM
http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2008/jan/07/yehey/sports/20080107spo7.html

RP Youth team to be finalized next week
By Ruben D. Manahan 4th, Reporter

NATIONAL coach Franz Pumaren will announce the final roster of the RP Youth team next week.

Among the 20 players 17 years old and below who survived the nationwide tryouts are Gabriel Banal, Gwyne Capacio, Anton Altamirano and Jeric Teng—sons of former professional players.

Gabriel’s father is Alaska assistant coach Joel, Gwyne is the son of FEU coach Glen, Anton is the son of National Basketball Training Center supervisor Eric while Jeric’s dad is former PBA enforcer Alvin.

“In a week’s time, we will be able to select the 16 players who will carry the national colors in two international tournaments this year,” said Pumaren during the presentation of the RP Youth players to BAP-SBP President Manny Pangilinan and TAO Corp. President Jun Sy Saturday at Barbara’s Restaurant in Intramuros.

The two tournaments which the Philippines will join this year are the SEABA Youth Championship in Malaysia in May and the FIBA Asia Under 18 in Iran in September.

Pumaren is optimistic that he can make the team competitive enough for the SEABA meet despite having only four months to prepare. Training in the US is scheduled in March.

“We have quality players to choose from and I believe that we can form a competitive team,” said Pumaren. “The team we have in mind is an aggressive one. We want to put emphasis on defense.”

Assisting Pumaren in the RP Youth team are Jack Santiago, Sandy Arespacochaga and fitness trainer Dan Rose.

TAO Corp. has pledged P80 million for the three-year program of the RP Youth team and the NBTC.

“Our company is excited to be a part of a dream to make Philippine basketball a source of pride. We believe in the leadership of Mr. Pangilinan,” said Sy, an avid fan of basketball.

The other hopefuls are San Beda’s Nicolas Salva, UP’s Jed Manguera, Joseph Marata, Mark Lopez and Don Carlo Fortu, La Salle-Zobel’s Luigi de la Paz, JRU’s Jerome Cruz and Jerome Ramos, FEU’s Ryan Roose Garcia, Ateneo’s Frank Golla, UPIS’ Joel Tolentino, NU’s Joseph Terso and Mark Jovet Mendoza, Adamson’s Andrew Penan, Southridge’s Andrew Felix, Philip Paredes of Cagayan de Oro, John Ray Sumido of Iloilo and Jairold Flores of Negros Occidental. Capacio, de la Paz and Paredes are the youngest at 15.

amdgc82
01-07-2008, 06:31 AM
http://www.malaya.com.ph/jan07/spor3.htm

SBP calls on schools to ‘sacrifice’
BY CHRISTINE MONCADA

CALLING on the nationalistic fervor of school officials, the BAP-Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas is pleading with UAAP and NCAA schools to allow their players who are members of the RP Youth team to skip the collegiate league this year and concentrate on their duties as national athletes.

The cage squad composed of players aged 18 and under is set to see action in an international tournament in May and another in September, the latter coinciding with the UAAP and NCAA seasons from July to October.

The Franz Pumaren-mentored squad, which was formally presented to BAP-SBP President Manny V. Pangilinan last Saturday in Intramuros, is set to compete in the Southeast Asian Basketball Association Championship in May in Malaysia and the Asian Youth Championship set September in Iran.

"This program demands commitment from the players and the coaching staff and it also demands cooperation from the schools, but as of now we are getting mixed reactions. We have some convincing to do," said Pangilinan.

"We are not completely there yet pero dapat maisip ng mga school administrators na dapat mauna ang bansa before school, but we know it’s not that simple."

BAP-SBP executive director Patrick Gregorio pointed out the players’ performance will be adversely affected if continue playing for their mother teams while practicing with the Youth squad.

"Everybody should understand the national squad will have a very hectic program. There is a plan to reach out to schools, ask if there’s a way na hindi muna maglaro ang mga players sa collegiate leagues for 2008. But it has to be a consensus, we cannot dictate on what they should do," Gregorio said.

The BAP-SBP is hoping to bring back the country’s glory days and win the Asian Youth title the Philippines last won in 1982, when Pumaren was still a player.

"Back in the 80s they were able to do it because they were focused on the program. I firmly believe we can do it again given ample time to prepare. But the best way to prepare is to concentrate on the preparation. " Gregorio added.

The team is composed of UAAP players Gwyne Capacio, Luigi de la Paz and Jed Manguera of La Salle-Zobel, Joseph Marata, Don Carlo Fortu and Mark Lopez of UP, Mark Jovet Mendoza and Joseph Terso of National University, Joel Tolentino of UPIS, Frank Golla of Ateneo and Andrew Penan of Adamson and NCAA players Nicolas Salva and Anton Altamirano of San Beda, Mark de Guzman of College of St. Benilde and Jose Rizal University cagers Jerome Cruz and Jerome Ramos.

Also making up the squad are Gabriel Banal and Jeric Teng of Xavier School, Andrew Felix of Southridge and Philip Paredes from Cagayan de Oro.

amdgc82
01-07-2008, 06:32 AM
http://philstar.com/index.php?Sports&p=49&type=2&sec=30&aid=20080106116

Parents okay kids’ cage program
By Nelson Beltran
Monday, January 7, 2008

Players who will make the RP youth pool will be asked to skip the coming varsity season to fully concentrate on the team tasked to win the SEABA and the Asian youth championships this year.

The players, in return, will be granted scholarship in a* school of their choice, free board and lodging plus monthly allowance while being part of the SBP program now jointly financed by Tao Corp. and Nokia.

Team officials and coaches had a consultative meeting with the hopefuls and their parents Saturday night at Barbara’s restaurant in Intramuros.

“I think we’ve got* a consensus from the players and the parents that they will support the program. We also made an* appeal that players chosen to concentrate on the team,” said SBP executive director Patrick Gregorio. The squad will be called RP Nokia Youth team.

“We know that our appeal is a delicate issue. It’s a bitter pill but it’s also for the good of the players,” Gregorio added. “It would be taxing for the players to play for their school teams and the youth team.”

The varsity season runs smack with the team’s program this year. Coach Franz Pumaren and his boys are competing in the SEABA tilt in Malaysia in May and in the Asian joust in September in Iran.

Pumaren and his staff, however, won’t be asked to take a leave of absence from their school teams.

“The coaching is mental and not physical. Coach Franz won’t get injured coaching La Salle. It could even be more helpful with Franz coaching more games and, thus, facing different game situations,” said Gregorio.

Gregorio and Pumaren said they received favorable response from the parents in the meeting Saturday also attended by SBP president Manny V. Pangilinan and chief supporters Jun Sy of Tao Corp. and William White, country manager of Nokia.

Boy Manguera, a former La Salle player whose son Jed is a candidate, stood up and committed his family’s full support to the program.

“Players have just one chance in their lifetime to play for the youth team. We understand the appeal. If my son is chosen, in behalf of my family, I’m making a decision now. We support it,” Manguera was quoted by Gregorio as saying.

Coaches Joel Banal and Glen Capacio, who also have sons in the candidates pool, have also expressed their support.

“I have had championships won as a player and as a coach. Among those I treasure the most was our Asian youth championship in 1977,” said Banal, the team captain of that RP youth squad.

“I became a part of the national team when I was 22. These kids are lucky. They’re already under the RP team program in their teens,” said Capacio, a member of the RP team that won the bronze medal in the 1986 Seoul Asian Games.

Tao Corp. and Nokia have agreed to pool P80 million to finance a three-year program that hopefully leads to the country’s participation in the First Youth Olympics in 2010.

The candidates are Nicolas Salva and Anton Altamirano of San Beda High, Jed Manguera, Gwyne Capacio and Luigi dela Paz of La Salle Zobel, Joseph Marata of UPIS High, Jerome Cruz and Jerome Ramos of JRU, Ryan Roose Garcia of FEU, Mark de Guzman of St. Benilde, Frank Golla of Ateneo High, Gabriel Banal and Jeric Teng of Xavier High, Joel Tolentino of UPIS High, Mark Lopez and Don Carlo Fortu of UP, Joseph Terso and Mark Jovet Mendoza of NU, Andrew Penan of Adamson, Philip Paredes of Sacred Heart-Cagayan, John Ray Sumido and Jairold Flores of Iloilo Chinese Commercial High and Andrew Felix of Southridge High.*

amdgc82
01-07-2008, 06:35 AM
RP Youth cagers face dilemma
By Jasmine W. Payo
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 03:01am (Mla time) 01/07/2008

MANILA, Philippines -- Manny V. Pangilinan, president of the BAP-Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas, Sunday said members of the national youth team may have to skip the UAAP and NCAA cage wars for the international competitions and training lined up this year.

“So far the reaction has been mixed, so we have some work to do,” Pangilinan said in a press conference Saturday. “The coaches, the SBP and some organizations have to persuade the schools to release the relevant players so they can play for the youth team.”

“We are studying it; it’s a plan and not yet a policy,” added BAP-SBP executive director Patrick Gregorio.

National youth coach Franz Pumaren had presented an 18-under squad, including Nico Salva of San Beda College and Jed Manguera of 2007 UAAP juniors champion La Salle-Zobel.

“It’s an issue that demands the cooperation of the schools,” Pangilinan said. “It’s practically symptomatic what a unified basketball effort really means, which is everybody has to cooperate in supporting the youth.”

ocean
01-07-2008, 10:45 AM
Arvie Bringas and Ryan buenafe are not going to join the RP Youth? Ano ang possible reason for this? Playing for the National Team should be an honor for anyone, sayang naman if they don't play.

Is it possible there is something we don't know?

Meron bang nakakaalam ng rason? According to the write-up, they are not attending practices.

lekiboy
01-07-2008, 11:19 AM
Arvie Bringas and Ryan buenafe are not going to join the RP Youth? Ano ang possible reason for this? Playing for the National Team should be an honor for anyone, sayang naman if they don't play.

Is it possible there is something we don't know?

Meron bang nakakaalam ng rason? According to the write-up, they are not attending practices.


Baka they are not under 18... :)

yungha
01-07-2008, 01:36 PM
i admire these kids who are willing to skip one year of varsity participation to train for the youth team especially those with so much to lose like the zobel boys who are gunning for a back-to-back, salva who may not have a slot at Ateneo when he comes back given the competitive race for slots in our team, marata who can be a back-to-back juniors mvp, mark lopez who seems ready to break out after a promising rookie year, etc.

others get the best of both worlds, like frank golla of Ateneo who wasn't really expected to crack team A in his freshman year but will now get to train under the best coaches.

the semis will be a long shot, but we'll probably qualify for the quarterfinals and contend for 5th-8th places. that's a manageable goal and a good start for our youth program which has been dormant for some time.

oca
01-07-2008, 03:13 PM
Dilemma...daw.

To be 18 or younger is a very short phase in a persons life.

If there is that opportunity to be part of something big and noble... if I can have that same opportunity... I'll commit myself to this endeavor. I can play college ball until 25 anyway.

Pero anong pwede mong matamo bilang 18 years old at maipagmamalika mo habang buhay?

This Youth Team may not make the medal podium, but just how many opportunity of this kind is presented to you when you are this young?

The interest of their schools?

Maraming malilipatang paaralan, kung kinakailangan. Pero itong pagkakataon na ito...at your age...minsan lang yan, kid.

amdgc82
01-08-2008, 05:54 AM
http://www.malaya.com.ph/jan08/spor4.htm
TUESDAY |JANUARY 8, 2008

SBP call for sacrifice gets mixed reactions
BY CHRISTINE MONCADA

TWO NCAA officials yesterday welcomed the BAP-Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas’ call for schools to sacrifice over national junior players but an official of a perennial UAAP contender is opposed to the idea.

The BAP-SBP has asked schools to allow their players who have been picked as members of the national team to skip this year’s UAAP and NCAA seasons to be able to concentrate on two international tournaments, one of which will coincide with the local collegiate basketball season from July to October.

The team of players aged 18 and below is set to see action in the Southeast Asian Basketball Association Championship in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, in May and the Asian Youth Championship in Tehran, Iran, in September.

Paul Supan of Jose Rizal University and Henry Atayde of College of St. Benilde said they agree with the proposal, although details will still be discussed by the NCAA board.

"Personally, I think it’s a great idea. It’s a good opportunity for the players to bring honor to the country and doing that requires sacrifices. The problem is the league was not informed, (the SBP) went straight to the parents," Atayde said.

"We still have to discuss this with the Board. But personally, I don’t think it should be a problem," Atayde added.

"Sino ba naman ang tatanggi to play for the flag, it will bring honor to the athletes, family and school. But of course we still have to see the guidelines on that. There are questions that need to be answered so that mother teams are still protected," Supan said.

Ateneo’s Ricky Palou, meanwhile, said there is no need for the players to skip the UAAP.

"They should still see action in the collegiate league because it is still exposure for them, they can get experience playing in the UAAP of the NCAA. It is better for them," Palou said.

SBP executive director Patrick Gregorio and RP Youth team coach Franz Pumaren maintained playing for the national squad and their mother schools at the same time could adversely affect the performance of the cagers.

"It could take its toll (on the athletes), the program for the RP squad is very hectic kaya we are reaching out to school administrators to allow the players to skip (the season)," Gregorio stressed.

"Training with their mother teams plus playing in actual game days in the collegiate league would leave no time and opportunity for the players to practice with the RP team," Pumaren said.

The team is composed of UAAP and NCAA players while three other cagers are from other leagues.

Schortsanitis
01-08-2008, 08:23 AM
The UAAP board specifically said that while they rejected the UAAP-NCAA merger, they were supposedly,"..... willing to serve the national interest in basketball ....".

If so, then I think it means they should have no problems lending some of their players to the National Team.

I mean, first they shoot down the UAAP-NCAA merger, & I hope they won't now shoot down the UAAP player's participation in the RP Youth Team.

ADMU's Ricky Palou disturbingly seems to be always quite vocal in offering dissenting opinions lately.

thadzonline
01-08-2008, 08:27 AM
I am just perplexed as to how words become so colorful when we talk about sacrifice...Am just hoping we all just think for flag and country and set aside ulterior motives if any

Ghostrider
01-08-2008, 12:55 PM
The only "new" players I saw were Arnold Van Opstal of DLZ (legit 6'4) and . . .

Slight correction, Coach Eric mentioned to me that upon measurement, 16 year old Arnold stands 6'7.5 already.

I heard from his pinay mother that his older(non-filipino) half brothers stand 6'10 and 6'9 respectively. Her younger son and (full) brother of Arnold measures 6'2 already.

Schortsanitis
01-08-2008, 02:12 PM
Slight correction, Coach Eric mentioned to me that upon measurement, 16 year old Arnold stands 6'7.5 already.

I heard from his pinay mother that his older(non-filipino) half brothers stand 6'10 and 6'9 respectively.* Her younger son and (full) brother of Arnold measures 6'2 already.


Is he any good, I mean, what about his coordination, reflexes, etc.?

Ghostrider
01-08-2008, 02:52 PM
Slight correction, Coach Eric mentioned to me that upon measurement, 16 year old Arnold stands 6'7.5 already.

I heard from his pinay mother that his older(non-filipino) half brothers stand 6'10 and 6'9 respectively.* Her younger son and (full) brother of Arnold measures 6'2 already.


Is he any good, I mean, what about his coordination, reflexes, etc.?


Raw as sushi.

Uncoordinated (as of now) but with average athletic ability (probably just learning how to play basketball), no left hand (yet). Think 16 year old, raw, 6'7, poor man's Paolo Bugia.

Overall, a promising project.

marmand
01-08-2008, 11:22 PM
The coaches of the RP Youth Team should also be required to take time out from their respective teams in the UAAP or NCAA so as to concentrate at the task at hand. If they require the players to skip a year of college ball then they should practice what they preech and skip one too! ;)

amdgc82
01-09-2008, 06:58 AM
http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/01092008/sports05.html

DLSU behind Pumaren’s RP-5 stint
By Joel Orellana
Reporter
WED JANUARY 9, 2008
*
LA SALLE would not be a hindrance to Franz Pumaren’s goal of putting the country back in the Asian juniors basketball map.

Edwin Reyes, executive assistant of La Salle athletics director Bro. Bernie Oca, said the school has been very supportive of Pumaren since he was appointed as head coach of the RP Youth team.

“The mission of Bro. Bernie is for God and country that’s why we’re supporting coach Franz in this cause,” Reyes told the BusinessMirror.

National football coach Hans Smit, also coach of La Salle women’s football team, was also given the same privilege by the school and, in fact, according to Reyes, the football field in the Taft campus is being used by the national team for free.

Pumaren said that if his schedule with the youth team would conflict with the Green Archers, the defending champions of the University Athletic Association of the Philippines (UAAP), he would prioritize the RP team.

He said though that it’s a matter of time management.

“I’m used to this kind of situation. It’s a matter of managing your time. I’ve been very passionate with what I’ve been doing and I have good coaching staff,” he said. “But if conflict occurs, country muna.”

The Taft-based team will resume training on April 1, when the youth squad is in the thick of things for the Southeast Asia Basketball (Seaba) Championship scheduled in May in Malaysia.

Next in line for the youth team is the Fiba-Asia 18-under tournament in September in Iran and this could pose problem for the Green Archers as the UAAP season is heating up by then.

That’s why Reyes said that Pumaren is mulling to add more personnel to the coaching staff because some of his assistants, particularly Jack Santiago, are with him on the national team.

“Right now, nag-iisip na ang school because we have to survive also in the UAAP,” said Reyes. “We believe in what coach Franz is doing but at the same time we also want to take care of our team here.”

Twenty hopefuls are currently in the pool and Pumaren said he will trim it down to 16 next week.

The pool is composed of Joel Tolentino, also named to the pool after a rigid tryout were Gabriel Banal, Anton Altamirano, Jeric Teng, Gwyne Capacio, Nicolas Salva, Jed Manguera, Joseph Marata, Philip Paredes, John Ray Sumido, Jairold Flores, Luigi dela Paz, Jerome Cruz, Jerome Ramos, Ryan Roose Garcia, Frank Golla, Mark Lopez, Don Carlo Fortu, Joseph Terso, Mark Jovet Mendoza, Andrew Penan and Andrew Felix.

Schortsanitis
01-09-2008, 08:57 AM
Raw as sushi.

Uncoordinated (as of now) but with average athletic ability (probably just learning how to play basketball), no left hand (yet).* Think 16 year old, raw, 6'7, poor man's Paolo Bugia.

Overall, a promising project.


Thanks for the info. I hope this kid develops into a respectable player down the road. They didn't include him on the RP Youth Team, though. They may need to try to develop him, since teams like China & South Korea are almost unbelievably tall compared to ours.

onggok
01-10-2008, 12:47 AM
Sana isama si Jericho De Guzman sa pag-train nila US. Kamusta na kaya ang batang ito. Siguro 7 footer na ito.

ocean
01-10-2008, 10:38 AM
With all the good things that can come out of joining the RP Youth, why are Bringas and Buenafe shying away from this? Are they refusing to play for the country, or are they being prevented from doing so. By whom?

Someone mentioned age. The Rp Youth is supposed to be for those born in 1990 or after. Per records of the NCAA they both qualify. Unless papers are .........

glock23
01-10-2008, 07:40 PM
Ateneo will never get players with dubious backgrounds and documents..... ::)

jembengzon
01-10-2008, 08:24 PM
Ateneo will never get players with dubious backgrounds and documents..... ::)


while i agree with this statement wholeheartedly* and without sarcasm,* :), unfortunately, it's off topic for the thread. Stick to the topic please, and let's not try* to be too smart with comments that may ignite something unintended or unwanted* :D

amdgc82
01-11-2008, 06:16 AM
http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Sports&p=49&type=2&sec=30&aid=20080110124

C de Oro behemoth in Franz wish list
By Nelson Beltran
Friday, January 11, 2008

A young Cagayan de Oro behemoth in Philip Paredes has the potential to be a vital cog in the Nokia-RP Youth team but there were reservations allegedly from school authorities at the Sacred Heart High to allow the 6-foot-6 player to train with the other aspirants in Manila.

But the rest of the hopefuls and their respective families and schools, including two other out-of-towners in John Ray Sumido and Jairold Flores of the Iloilo Chinese Commercial High School are willing to take a crack at the RP youth squad.

“We’re working for the clearance but we’re given the runaround (by the school officials),” said coach Franz Pumaren.

“We’re appealing if they can let the boy join us.They could send the lesson plans, work plans and test papers. We start our practice at 5 p.m. He can still study the whole day. We can even provide him a tutor,” Pumaren said.

He added that Paredes’ participation with the team should be a source of pride and recognition for the school and Cagayan de Oro. Jojo Lastimosa is easily the most celebrated cager from the Misamis Oriental city.

Pumaren likens Paredes to a young Jun Limpot.

SBP executive director Patrick Gregorio said other schools have heeded their appeal that the players be allowed to skip the coming varsity season to fully concentrate on the team tasked to win the SEABA and the Asian youth championships this year.

“The only request of the school coaches and officials is an assurance their players will not be recruited by other schools,” said Gregorio.

Pumaren said they’re now working for the board and lodging of Sumido and Flores, the Iloilo boys who are coming to Manila next week.

“The Iloilo Chinese Commercial High School is proud to have players playing for the national team,” said Pumaren of the Chinese school which has produced two PBA players in James Yap and Ken Bono.

The other RP youth candidates are Nicolas Salva and Anton Altamirano of San Beda High, Jed Manguera, Gwyne Capacio and Luigi dela Paz of La Salle Zobel, Joseph Marata of UPIS High, Jerome Cruz and Jerome Ramos of JRU,Ryan Roose Garcia of FEU, Mark de Guzman of St. Benilde, Frank Golla of Ateneo High, Gabriel Banal and Jeric Teng of Xavier High, Joel Tolentino of UPIS High, Mark Lopez and Don Carlo Fortu of UP, Joseph Terso and Mark Jovet Mendoza of NU, Andrew Penan of Adamson and Andrew Felix of Southridge High.

onggok
01-11-2008, 07:23 AM
Why most of the players came from Metro Manila? sana mag-create sila ng team B na galing sa province because most of the great players came from the province

nightowl
01-11-2008, 08:08 AM
The key word is CAME. Many of the metro based players are from the provinces, but they're here already. Manila scouts raid the provinces regularly, and pirate most of the good ones.

glock23
01-11-2008, 10:20 AM
Ateneo will never get players with dubious backgrounds and documents..... ::)


while i agree with this statement wholeheartedly and without sarcasm, :), unfortunately, it's off topic for the thread. Stick to the topic please, and let's not try to be too smart with comments that may ignite something unintended or unwanted :D



was just reacting to oceans comments. nothing wrong with that Mr bengzon. sorry for the OT

paul0220
01-11-2008, 10:38 AM
On the issue of Philip Paredes. It all boils down to his coach Boy Dacoco. The apprehension would always be there since he has nurtured this kid for nearly four years now. There is always the apprehension that when this kid is already here in Manila he would be lured not to return to Sacred Heart and play instead in LaSalle or in other schools. The kid I guess is in 3rd HS yet.

lekiboy
01-11-2008, 12:31 PM
On the issue of Philip Paredes. It all boils down to his coach Boy Dacoco. The apprehension would always be there since he has nurtured this kid for nearly four years now. There is always the apprehension that when this kid is already here in Manila he would be lured not to return to Sacred Heart and play instead in LaSalle or in other schools. The kid I guess is in 3rd HS yet.


saan kaya pupunta ito si mr. paredes if he decides to move to manila while still in HS?

jembengzon
01-11-2008, 04:46 PM
Ateneo will never get players with dubious backgrounds and documents..... ::)


while i agree with this statement wholeheartedly* and without sarcasm,* :), unfortunately, it's off topic for the thread.* Stick to the topic please, and let's not try* to be too smart with comments that may ignite something unintended or unwanted* :D





was just reacting to oceans comments. nothing wrong with that Mr bengzon. sorry for the OT


no problem, glock. just being careful in heading off anything unwanted or subject to misinterpretation. :)

Schortsanitis
01-13-2008, 06:34 AM
** I was able to watch two of the RP Youth Team aspirants, JERIC TENG & GABRIEL BANAL of Xavier University recently at the opening of the Metro Manila Tionglian Basketball Association (MMTBA), in their game against Chiang Kai Shek College.

JERIC TENG

** Jeric did not inherit his father, Alvin Teng's height & heft.* Alvin was a bulky 6'3", while Jeric was a lanky 6'1".* While Alvin played no. 4 in the PBA, Jeric plays no. 2.* Jeric looks very much like Alvin, though.* If you can imagine a slightly shorter & malnourished Alvin, then that's Jeric.*

** Jeric has a good outside shot, good ballhandling ability, shifty, & fast.* He along w/ Gabriel Banal were among Xavier's main players.* His good height at no. 2 also allowed him to post up sometimes some of the smaller guards from the opposing team.* Not a great leaper, though.* I think that w/ his height at that position, along w/ better training & exposure w/ the RP Youth team, he is likely will be a solid player in college.* I won't be surprised if he becomes another blue chip prospect after High School.* *

GABRIEL BANAL

** Banal, a lanky 6'3" player, was absolutely no match for Justin Chua in the paint.* However, he did seem to have the tools to switch to no. 3 in college in beyond.* He had a good outside shot all the way to the 3-pt area, good coordination, good quickness & speed, & I think he has enough ball handling skills to be able to play from the outside.

** Not a great leaper, though, consistently got blocked inside the paint by Justin.* I think he will have to switch to no. 3 in the RP Youth Team, since if he already has problems matching up underneath the boards against Justin, how much more against taller & more athletic players in international tournaments?

bigfreeze_bibby
01-14-2008, 08:59 AM
I have seen these two guys in the RP youth tryouts last December and from the way I see things, these kids can adjust quickly to the college game. What I like about Teng is that he can create his own shot off the dribble and hustles on defense. Banal, on the other hand, even if he plays center or power forward in high school, shows his quickness and ability to slide in the small forward, wing spot. In a pressure D drill, Banal showed that he can be reliable bringing the ball upcourt if he has to.

glock23
01-14-2008, 02:06 PM
On the issue of Philip Paredes. It all boils down to his coach Boy Dacoco. The apprehension would always be there since he has nurtured this kid for nearly four years now. There is always the apprehension that when this kid is already here in Manila he would be lured not to return to Sacred Heart and play instead in LaSalle or in other schools. The kid I guess is in 3rd HS yet.


saan kaya pupunta ito si mr. paredes if he decides to move to manila while still in HS?


Si Ato ang naka hanap sa bata so most likely san beda yan. But of course kung sino ang mapusuan ng bata at ng mga magulang ang siyang mag wawagi sa huli. Ang balita nga lang eh berde pala ang paboritong kulay ng bata....sa ngayon ;)

Schortsanitis
01-14-2008, 05:01 PM
Ghostrider, were you able to confirm w/ Coach E that the RP Youth Team is separate from the National Basketball Training Center team? It's all mighty confusing .....

If so, then the 20 players presented to the media (i.e., Philip Paredes, Jeric Teng, Gabriel Banal, etc.) were for the NATIONAL BASKETBALL TRAINING CENTER. The big question then, would be who are the members of the RP YOUTH TEAM? I seem to get the impression that the RP Youth Team are trying to keep a low profile, perhaps, to minimize scouting from other countries?

Ranger
01-15-2008, 10:36 AM
The National Basketball Training Center is a development program under the SBP. It's task is to identify potential players from around the country and develop them for future National Teams. The pool is divided into two brackets: 14-15 & 16-17.

The RP Youth Team of Franz is already the players who made the cut as of this moment. They are now down to 17 players: Mark Lopez, Nico Salva, Joseph Terso, Jed Manguera, Frank Golla, Jovet Mendoza, Joel Tolentino, Joseph Marata, Philip Paredes, Jerome Ramos, Gabriel Banal, Jeric Teng, Mark De Guzman, Andrew Penan, John Ray Sumido, Jairold Flores and Jaypee Mendoza. These players train under Coaches Franz, Dindo, Jack and Sandy. The other players who at this point did not advance from the latest cut are now included in the NBTC.

Schortsanitis
01-15-2008, 11:32 AM
The National Basketball Training Center is a development program under the SBP. It's task is to identify potential players from around the country and develop them for future National Teams. The pool is divided into two brackets: 14-15 & 16-17.

The RP Youth Team of Franz is already the players who made the cut as of this moment. They are now down to 17 players: Mark Lopez, Nico Salva, Joseph Terso, Jed Manguera, Frank Golla, Jovet Mendoza, Joel Tolentino, Joseph Marata, Philip Paredes, Jerome Ramos, Gabriel Banal, Jeric Teng, Mark De Guzman, Andrew Penan, John Ray Sumido, Jairold Flores and Jaypee Mendoza. These players train under Coaches Franz, Dindo, Jack and Sandy. The other players who at this point did not advance from the latest cut are now included in the NBTC.


Okay, thanks for the info.

Which brings us to the next question: How come Buenafe & Bringas were not included in the team? Is it because they are overaged as per the cutoff date requirements, or they were just not committed to the team & stopped practicing with it? A lot of people are curious, as it seems these 2 would've been a shoo-in for the team.

If its the latter, then that would somewhat put a negative perception on those 2. True, the fact that they would've missed this year's season had they been included in the team would've likely turned them off, but you can say the same thing also for the other blue chips like Nico Salva & Philip Paredes.

glock23
01-15-2008, 01:24 PM
ateneo and san sebastian insiders will be in a better position to answer your questions ;) Fyi, paredes is only a junior in HS and nico salva willingly obliged to forego a year in the uaap to play for flag and country.

stonecold316
01-16-2008, 02:22 AM
Can someone give us some backgrounders sa 17 players na kasama sa training pool?
Ex: san galing school, position na nilalaro, strenghts and weaknesses ng players, etc.

Tsaka, ilan sa mga players na kasama sa pool eh anak ng mga dating PBA players. Tama ba?

stonecold316

amdgc82
01-16-2008, 06:33 AM
http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Sports&p=49&type=2&sec=30&aid=20080115107

17 RP Youth bets make cut
Wednesday, January 16, 2008

Seventeen hopefuls were left in the RP Nokia Youth training pool as coach Franz Pumaren made another cut Monday night, relegating six players to the National Basketball Training Center.

Anton Altamirano, Luigi dela Paz, Gwyne Capacio, Don Fortun, Andrew Felix and Andrei Pantin were the latest casualties in the search for 12 players to be sent to the SEABA Youth Championship in Malaysia in May and the Asian Youth Championship in Iran in September.

Gabriel Banal, Jeric Teng, Nicolas Salva, Jed Manguera, Joseph Marata, Jerome Cruz, Jerome Ramos, Ryan Roose Garcia, Frank Golla, Joel Tolentino, Mark Lopez, Andrew Penan and Mark Jovet Mendoza remain in the pool.

Out-of-towners Philip Paredes from Cagayan de Oro and John Ray Sumido and Jairold Flores from Iloilo are to rejoin the Manila-based players in the next few days.

JP Mendoza, a 6-foot-3 forward from Tarlac, will also be given a close look. The player is highly recommended by former PBA player Gil Cortez.

“Making the latest cut is no guarantee that they’re already in. The players still have to work hard and show their dedication,” said Pumaren. “We’re not yet closing the door on provincial players. We may still be missing great talents out there.”

Marata and Teng remain in the pool even as they suffered minor injuries playing for their respective school teams.

SBP officials are hoping the players concentrate for the youth team as they step up their training for the SEABA and Asian youth jousts.

Altamirano, Dela Paz, Capacio, Fortun, Felix and Pantin have been relegated to the National Basketball Training Center where they can hone up their skills and be used for future international competitions.

“These are 15-16-year-old players. With more improvement in the NBTC, they can still be tapped for the next youth championship,” said Pumaren.* *– Nelson Beltran

Joescoundrel
01-21-2008, 05:21 PM
Coach Franz Pumaren has the speed and the firepower but very little size in the youth team. Hopefully 6-foot-6 Papot Paredes can help remedy the situation, because Ateneo's Frank Golla, at a shade under 6-foot-5, seems to be the tallest player on the team thus far. Jerome Ramos looks somewhere in the neighborhood of 6-foot-4. Every one else looks sub-6 feet. Considering China, Taiwan and Korea routinely parade 6-foot-3 to 6-foot-4 POINTGUARDS even at the youth level, size is something we could really use.

Aren't there any athletic 6-foot-8 to 6-foot-10 teenagers out there, like say in Pangasinan, where Marlou Aquino, Dennis Espino and Danny Ildefonso all come from?

dose
01-21-2008, 09:53 PM
Coach Franz Pumaren has the speed and the firepower but very little size in the youth team. Hopefully 6-foot-6 Papot Paredes can help remedy the situation, because Ateneo's Frank Golla, at a shade under 6-foot-5, seems to be the tallest player on the team thus far. Jerome Ramos looks somewhere in the neighborhood of 6-foot-4. Every one else looks sub-6 feet. Considering China, Taiwan and Korea routinely parade 6-foot-3 to 6-foot-4 POINTGUARDS even at the youth level, size is something we could really use.

Aren't there any athletic 6-foot-8 to 6-foot-10 teenagers out there, like say in Pangasinan, where Marlou Aquino, Dennis Espino and Danny Ildefonso all come from?


I think Dennis Espino came from Pampanga where, I believe, there are also a lot of tall and young basketball players. Sa Holy Angel sa Angeles City madami. Diyan galing si Gelig at si Capati.

thadzonline
01-22-2008, 12:40 AM
Coach Franz Pumaren has the speed and the firepower but very little size in the youth team. Hopefully 6-foot-6 Papot Paredes can help remedy the situation, because Ateneo's Frank Golla, at a shade under 6-foot-5, seems to be the tallest player on the team thus far. Jerome Ramos looks somewhere in the neighborhood of 6-foot-4. Every one else looks sub-6 feet. Considering China, Taiwan and Korea routinely parade 6-foot-3 to 6-foot-4 POINTGUARDS even at the youth level, size is something we could really use.

Aren't there any athletic 6-foot-8 to 6-foot-10 teenagers out there, like say in Pangasinan, where Marlou Aquino, Dennis Espino and Danny Ildefonso all come from?


I think Espino is from Pampanga..and yes, how about Eman's relatives in Davao?

Wang-Bu
01-22-2008, 10:22 AM
Tubong-Pampanga nga si Dennis Espino, bagama't sa pagkakaalala ko tubong-Pangasinan naman ang kanyang ina.

At oo nga naman, gaya ng nasabi ni Sir Thadz, alam ko may mga ilang pinsan o kapatid si Sam Eman na nasa 6'5" o 6'6" na mga bata pa. Sa mga bayan-bayan ng Pangasinan andaming mga batang matatangkad na mahuhusay.

Wala bang mga scouts ang SBP sa mga malalayong lugar? Tila yata puro mga medyo may pangalan o meron ng matunog na pangalan lang ang kinukopkop ng SBP.

JonarSabilano
01-22-2008, 10:26 AM
May mga kapatid si Eman na matatangkad din: isang 21 taon (6'6"), isang 18 taon (6'6" din yata) at isang 15 anyos (6-footer din yata). Lahat daw sila, naglalaro sa U of Mindanao, ayon kay Queenito.

Schortsanitis
01-22-2008, 10:29 AM
It seems the only player in the country right now above 6'6" who would be eligible for that RP Youth Team is that 6'7 1/2" Van Opstal guy at DLSU-Z. *It seems the RP Youth Coaching staff had seen him play in the tryouts, but apparently were not impressed enough to include him in the team. *At the very least, I think he should be put in the NBTC, if he isn't a member there yet.

thadzonline
01-22-2008, 01:50 PM
May mga kapatid si Eman na matatangkad din: isang 21 taon (6'6"), isang 18 taon (6'6" din yata) at isang 15 anyos (6-footer din yata). Lahat daw sila, naglalaro sa U of Mindanao, ayon kay Queenito.


yep, if I remember it right, 6'4, 6'7 and 6'6 ang mga kapatid ni Sam Eman ayon sa nasulat ni Quinito..his older brother is 5'6 ata..hehe

mighty_lion
01-22-2008, 02:00 PM
^ JRU has two new bigmen in their Team B and both standing least 6'5. Im not sure if yun yong mga kapatid ni Eman but looking at thier facial features parang me pagkahawig. Nabasa ko sa Pex dati nirerecruit nila yong dalawang kapatid ni Samigue. If sila nga yon, based dun sa mga nakita kong laro hilaw pareho.

LION
01-22-2008, 03:27 PM
^
I believe they were recruited by bchemist for JRU. ;D

1979
01-24-2008, 11:17 AM
School over country or Country over school?

It has been known that some schools are holding their players from joining the Youth team. The excuse being that they would rather have them concentrate on studies. However, the players will play in the coming UAAP..... what's the difference there? In contrast, The Iloilo Chinese Commercial High School takes it as a source of pride that their students get to be in the National Team.....

Where's the Nationalism? :(

denver
01-24-2008, 11:38 AM
I hear Salva is now choosing to play for Ateneo the next season and will no longer play for the RP Youth. What a shame.

This is one way of serving your country, don't blow this chance, Nico. Ateneo will still be there next year, but the chance to play for the country will be gone.

1979
01-24-2008, 12:36 PM
^^^

Really? I didn't realize the Ateneo would allow this.... :o

Maybe it's Salva's decision?

I thought only schools in the provinces were holding players back.

Ranger
01-24-2008, 01:51 PM
Nico's loss of opportunity will be someone else's gain in opportunity... :P

onggok
01-24-2008, 02:26 PM
sana maunahan ng BAP-SBP ma discover ang mga batang may potential na galing province para hindi na makuaha
ng mga school sa manila at sana sila narin ang train nila para hindi mahirapan ang BAP-SBP to convince them to play for the the national team total marami ang may potential sa province kay sa manila.

amdgc82
01-25-2008, 11:00 AM
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/cag/2008/01/18/sports/dacoco.paredes.will.remain.a.shjms.cog.html

Friday, January 18, 2008
Dacoco: Paredes will remain a SHJMS cog
By Lynde Salgados

A YOUNG Cagayan de Oro-based cager is creating quite a stir when he was cited by RP Youth coach Franz Pumaren as having the potential player in the Nokia-backed national squad.

The 6-foot-6 Philip "Papot" Paredes, a native of Malaybalay City, Bukidnon and a junior varsity stalwart of Sacred Heart of Jesus Montessori School (SHJMS), is likened by Pumaren to a young Jun Limpot.

Should he consider a stint with the RP Youth team, Pumaren said Paredes-who powered Team CDO in winning the 2007 Philippine Olympic Festival (POF) basketball championship- could be a source of pride and recognition for Sacred Heart school and the City of Golden Friendship which already has Jojo Lastimosa as its most celebrated basketball hero.

But a national daily article quoted Pumaren as saying "we're working for the clearance but we're given the runaround (by the school officials)."

He said there were reservations from school authorities in as far as allowing Paredes to train with the other aspirants in Manila.

"That's very true. La Salle ug Ateneo ang gailog sa iya. Interesado sab ang San Beda kay Papot," commented Arnold Senday-diego, who has a budding son playing pointguard for Ateneo de Cagayan's junior varsity team.

Discovered by former Oro Chowking manager Ferdie Padilla in the land-locked province of Bukidnon which also prided of producing at least four PBA players, the fast-learning Paredes is being groomed under the tutelage of veteran coach, Edgardo "Boy" Dacoco.

"I'm so glad that my discovery was given that much attention by coach Pumaren. Pero kon ihatag man gud sa Manila looy `ta dire sa Cagayan de Oro kay kita ang mapi-angan. In fairnes kay coach Boy, kita baya dinhe ang ga-develop," Padilla said.

For his part, Dacoco texted Sun.Star Cagayan de Oro with these words: "Ang stand sa Sacred Heart "win win" ..he can play for RP and so with the school coz if they have their program our school has a sports program too." He did not further elaborate.

According to Pumaren, the rest of the hopefuls and their respective families and schools, including two other out-of-towners in John Ray Sumido and Jairold Flores of the Iloilo Chinese Commercial High School are willing to take a crack at the RP youth squad.

"We're appealing if they can let the boy join us. They could send the lesson plans, work plans and test papers. We start our practice at 5 p.m. He can still study the whole day. We can even provide him a tutor," Pumaren said.

SBP executive director Patrick Gregorio said other schools have heeded their appeal that the players be allowed to skip the coming varsity season to fully concentrate on the team tasked to win the SEABA and the Asian youth championships this year.

"The only request of the school coaches and officials is an assurance their players will not be recruited by other schools," said Gregorio.

The other RP youth candidates are Nicolas Salva and Anton Altamirano of San Beda High, Jed Manguera, Gwyne Capacio and Luigi dela Paz of La Salle Zobel, Joseph Marata of UPIS High, Jerome Cruz and Jerome Ramos of JRU,Ryan Roose Garcia of FEU, Mark de Guzman of St. Benilde, Frank Golla of Ateneo High, Gabriel Banal and Jeric Teng of Xavier High, Joel Tolentino of UPIS High, Mark Lopez and Don Carlo Fortu of UP, Joseph Terso and Mark Jovet Mendoza of NU, Andrew Penan of Adamson and Andrew Felix of Southridge High.

onggok
01-26-2008, 01:08 PM
I hope after they served for RP youth team sana mag try out sila US Div 1 college (basketball) iyong may potential.
If Peredes will grow 5 inches, I hope gawin niya rin ang ginawa ni Japeth.

amdgc82
02-06-2008, 06:12 AM
http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Sports&p=49&type=2&sec=30&aid=20080205126

Pumaren bares tough grind for SEABA-bound RP youth
By Joey Villar
Wednesday, February 6, 2008

The Nokia-RP youth team is in for a tough schedule the next few months.

RP coach Franz Pumaren yesterday said they have lined up at least three tournaments for the 18-and-under quintet that is preparing for the SEABA Youth Championship in Malaysia in May and the Asian Youth Championship in Iran in September.

One of these three is the plan to field the Nationals as a guest squad in the season-opening Philippine Basketball League conference set Feb. 23 similar to what the league did to the Harbour Centre-backed RP team that won the gold medal in last December’s Southeast Asian Games in Nakhon Ratchasima, Thailand.

“We hope to use the PBL as a gauge of the team’s strength, weaknesses because a player may be good in practice but could be different in a real game or* vice versa,” said Pumaren, who steered the La Salle Green Archers to last year’s UAAP crown.

Pumaren said BAP-SBP executive director Patrick Gregorio is finalizing details of the Nationals’ entry to the PBL where they would be pitted against all eight participating teams headed by powerhouse Harbour Centre, the four-peat champion, and the Gabe Norwood-led Hapee Toothpaste.

After the PBL, the team is scheduled to leave on March 15 for a series of games in Carson in California before joining a tournament in Los Angeles early April two weeks later.

After the US trip, Pumaren said the Nationals will return to the country mid-April for a few weeks before the SEABA tournament in Malaysia in May.

To date, the team is composed of 17 players headed by Philip Paredes, a 16-year-old, 6-foot-6 player from Cagayan de Oro who has been impressive in workouts.

“He (Paredes) is tall for his age and has been showing a lot of potential,” said Dindo Pumaren, the University of the East mentor who is one of RP assistant coaches.

The other members of the team are Gabriel Banal, Jeric Teng, Nicolas Salva, Jed Manguera, Joseph Marata, Jerome Cruz, Jerome Ramos, Ryan Roose Garcia, Frank Golla, Joel Tolentino, Mark Lopez, Andrew Penan, JP Mendoza, Gil Cortez and Mark Jovet Mendoza.

Pumaren said he would trim down the pool to 15 players – 12 regulars and three reserves – next month.

amdgc82
02-06-2008, 09:15 AM
http://sports.inquirer.net/inquirersports/inquirersports/view/20080206-117061/Nokia-RP-youth-five-toughens-up-in-PBL-as-guest-squad

Nokia-RP youth five toughens up in PBL as guest squad
By Jasmine W. Payo
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 03:22:00 02/06/2008

The Philippine Basketball League (PBL) has opened its doors to the national cause anew, allowing the Nokia-Philippine youth team to play as a guest squad in the league’s next conference.

“We’re just finalizing the details [of the youth team’s participation],” said league commissioner Chino Trinidad.

“They’re welcome to hone their skills in the PBL. It has always been a part of the PBL program [to help RP teams].”

The Harbour-RP men’s team that captured the gold medal in the 2007 Southeast Asian Games also included a PBL guest stint in its training.

National youth coach Franz Pumaren said his under-18 players will toughen up playing sides five to 10 years their senior.

“We’re joining to gain experience and to jell as a team,” said Pumaren. “We want to know what we need to develop, our weaknesses, and who can really help us in future competitions.”

The Nokia-RP youth team will plunge into its first international competition in the Southeast Asian Basketball Association youth tournament in Kuala Lumpur on May 1, followed by the Asian Youth Championship in Tehran in September.

Aside from their PBL exposure, the high school cagers will also train in the renowned Joe Abunassar basketball camp in the United States next month.

The squad is bannered by Jed Manguera of UAAP juniors champ De La Salle Zobel, Ateneo de Manila University’s Frank Golla, University of the Philippines’ Mark Lopez and Joseph Marata, Xavier’s Gabriel Banal and Sacred Heart-Cagayan de Oro’s Philip Paredes.

Meanwhile, new PBL squad Noosa Shoes vies to parade an overseas-born center with Filipino roots when the next conference opens on Feb. 23.

“We really need a big but mobile player so that we can be competitive,” said team owner Dioceldo Sy, who had Coca-Cola star Asi Tauluva playing for his former PBL team Blu Detergent in 1998.

erichubert
02-09-2008, 04:15 PM
Last UAAP season, I remembered hearing the commentators saying that JR Cawaling, Paul Sanga and Aldrech Ramos of FEU being 17 years old only, they were even raving about how mature these young players were, I wonder why they didn't try-out for the RP team. Can someone clarify or are they over age already? They would certainly help the team a lot.

Mateen Cleaves
02-09-2008, 04:43 PM
Could be that they won't be eligible anymore. It is an under-18 tournament. Kung 17 na sila last year, malamang overaged na sila by the time the tournament comes around this year.

erichubert
02-09-2008, 05:05 PM
Is it an under-18 or 18 and under?, I think as long as you are 18 by the time the tournament starts, you should still be eligible but I may be wrong.

AnthonyServinio
02-10-2008, 01:59 AM
Is it an under-18 or 18 and under?, I think as long as you are 18 by the time the tournament starts, you should still be eligible but I may be wrong.

* * *THE RULE is construed to mean "players 18 years of age and under".* If I remember right, the cut-off is not the date of the tournament but as along as the player was born within the year.

* * *For example, let's look at the 1989 Asian Juniors in Manila held in January.* Take note that this tournament was supposed to be held in 1988 so a lot of our players were already overaged by a few months to a year and it was fairly legal and the age limit then was 19 and under.* Hence, the tournament was open to players born 1969 and later since they turned 19 at the most in 1988.

Player (Birthdate)
John Cardel (June 6, 1970)
EJ Feihl (March 27, 1971)
Danny Francisco (N/A)
Joey Guanio (January 5, 1969)
Jojo Lim (August 22, 1969)
Jun Limpot (December 14, 1971)
Vergel Meneses (January 14, 1969)
Vic Pablo (August 8, 1970)
Olsen Racela (November 1, 1970)
Dennis Ramirez (N/A)
Bong Ravena (May 11, 1970)
Robert Ruiz (N/A)

* * *The next Asian Juniors was held in 1990 as scheduled in Japan and was for players born 1971 and later.

Schortsanitis
02-10-2008, 09:08 AM
^^^
What's the cutoff year for this year's Youth tournament, then? Should it 1990, or 1989? Maybe guys like Junmar Fajardo & Justin Chua will still be eligible.

1979
02-10-2008, 03:03 PM
1990

nightowl
02-10-2008, 04:26 PM
Cawaling already turned 20, Ramos will be 20 soon and Sanga is turning 21.

No way can they be included in the youth team. They may be rookies but they are older than 3rd year players of some other teams. Barroca, another FEU rookie will turn 22 soon, while Alisbo is 21 and Abaring is 22. Rookies also.

oca
02-11-2008, 08:11 AM
Cawaling already turned 20, Ramos will be 20 soon and Sanga is turning 21.

No way can they be included in the youth team. They may be rookies but they are older than 3rd year players of some other teams. Barroca, another FEU rookie will turn 22 soon, while Alisbo is 21 and Abaring is 22. Rookies also.


...and when a 18, 19 year old college freshman didn't live up to expectations, they get negative comments in different forums.

Sa college ball, a 1 year advantage in terms of experience gives one the maturity to perform better. Yet many are so critical of blue chips and highly recruited junior players when in fact they are young ang needing in experience....

...and I am OT.

amdgc82
02-19-2008, 05:16 AM
http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/02192008/sports04.html

Franz to name roster to Seaba Youth tournament, US training next
By Joel Orellana
Reporter
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NATIONAL Youth head coach Franz Pumaren will name Tuesday the composition of the squad for the Southeast Asia Basketball Association (Seaba) Youth Championship in Malaysia in May at the Teatrino in Greenhills, San Juan.

From 17, the number will be trimmed to 15. The players will fly to the United States on March 15 for a two-week training under renowned trainer Joe Abunnasar.

Basketball Association of the Philippines-Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (BAP-SBP) executive director Patrick Gregorio said of the 15, three will be reserves.

Expected to make the cut is 16-year old Philip Paredes, a six-foot-seven find from Cagayan de Oro City who, according to Gregorio, has been showing tremendous improvement since joining the pool last month.

Aside from Paredes, JP Mendoza, a six-four recruit from Tarlac City, has also been impressive in practice along with Iloilo’s John Sumido and Jairold Flores.

After the Seaba Youth, the team will compete in the Asian Youth Championship in Iran in September. According to Gregorio, one of the major goals of the team is to win the Asian tournament, which the Philippines last ruled in 1982 at the expense of China.

Other members of the 17-member pool are Gabriel Banal, Nico Salva, Jeric Teng, Jed Manguera, Jerome Cruz, Joseph Marata, Jerome Ramos, Ryan Garcia, Joel Tolentino, Frank Golla, Mark Lopez, Jovet Mendoza and Andrew Penan.

LION
02-19-2008, 07:37 AM
http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/02192008/sports04.html

Franz to name roster to Seaba Youth tournament, US training next
By Joel Orellana
Reporter
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NATIONAL Youth head coach Franz Pumaren will name Tuesday the composition of the squad for the Southeast Asia Basketball Association (Seaba) Youth Championship in Malaysia in May at the Teatrino in Greenhills, San Juan.

From 17, the number will be trimmed to 15. The players will fly to the United States on March 15 for a two-week training under renowned trainer Joe Abunnasar.

Basketball Association of the Philippines-Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (BAP-SBP) executive director Patrick Gregorio said of the 15, three will be reserves.

Expected to make the cut is 16-year old Philip Paredes, a six-foot-seven find from Cagayan de Oro City who, according to Gregorio, has been showing tremendous improvement since joining the pool last month.

Aside from Paredes, JP Mendoza, a six-four recruit from Tarlac City, has also been impressive in practice along with Iloilo’s John Sumido and Jairold Flores.

After the Seaba Youth, the team will compete in the Asian Youth Championship in Iran in September. According to Gregorio, one of the major goals of the team is to win the Asian tournament, which the Philippines last ruled in 1982 at the expense of China.

Other members of the 17-member pool are Gabriel Banal, Nico Salva, Jeric Teng, Jed Manguera, Jerome Cruz, Joseph Marata, Jerome Ramos, Ryan Garcia, Joel Tolentino, Frank Golla, Mark Lopez, Jovet Mendoza and Andrew Penan.


As if Paredes is not already good.

Just less than 2 months of training under the national coaches and he has shown tremendous improvement? Ganun kagaling ang training natin? Woooowoooweeeee. ;D

Schortsanitis
02-19-2008, 12:15 PM
Regarding the RP Youth Team's stint in the PBL, I think it is the right way to go, for a couple of reasons:

* I think the best way any team can improve, is by playing against BETTER COMPETITION. If they play against competition that is just as good as they are, or less than they are, then they might end up w/ a case of over confidence.

* Against these PBL teams, am almost sure they will face a lot of ADVERSITY. Adversity, will hopefully develop character within the teams, & separate the leaders who can take charge under such adverse situations.

* Lastly, these kids will be up against teams in the international tournaments who will be a LOT taller than they are. The Chinese Youth Team's ceiling, for example, is almost unimaginable. South Korea also has a couple of 6'9" players in their fold, some of which I heard were recruited by US NCAA Div. 1 teams already. These Chinese & South Korean teams, young as they are, I think are comparable, if not maybe even BETTER than the PBL teams right now, by virtue of their raw individual talent & height.

* Whether its too soon to get these kids against the PBL team, maybe it would've been better to have these kids play against PBL teams later, but the schedule doesn't seem to allow it for now. So I guess we'll just have to take it as it is right now.

james_ty
02-19-2008, 03:17 PM
I saw these guys at the press launching this afternoon but I haven't seen them play yet.

I will check them out in practice today and I will give my observations next time.

I'm looking forward to Paredes, Manguera and the sons of the former PBA players in the team to strut their stuff.

Sam Miguel
02-20-2008, 12:41 AM
^^^ James thought the "Basketbol, Buhay ng Pinoy" song composed by Pato Gregorio was nice and catchy too by the way. ;D

Sam Miguel
02-20-2008, 12:53 AM
As for Papot Paredes, the boy is a skinny 6-foot-5 to maybe 6-foot-6, reminds me a lot of Nonoy Baclao, long, lean, as natural instincts and a nose for the ball. However he is overwhelmingly one-handed and relies more on sheer size and leap to get rebounds and blocks, which means he needs to develop more of his timing especially on defense, as well as gain more strength to match up better against the bigger 4/5 players from China, Korea, Taiwan and Japan. He has plenty of upside especially in terms of going high and low and rolling well off screens and working the two-man game. If he ever develops a consistent trigger from around 18 feet he could make people remember one Danny Francisco.

Jerome Ramos, Joseph Mendoza and Frank Golla complete the rotation at the 4 and 5 spots. Golla's inclusion is intriguing considering he was not a heralded player with the multi-titled Ateneo Blue Eaglets program of Coach Jamike Jarin. Golla, at a shade over 6-foot-4, seems to have gained some muscle mass and some strength just judging from his better developed arms and shoulders. He's also improved his footwork and movement without the ball. He still has touch-and-go hands though, judging from his still frustrating inability to catch on the move and regain his bearings immediately and automatically. This is what had Coach Jarin always giving him an earful as an Eaglet.

amdgc82
02-20-2008, 05:27 AM
http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/02202008/sports03.html

Fil-Am boost to be considered for youth lineup–Franz
By Dominic Menor
Subeditor
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THE Philippine roster that was presented glossily to the media Tuesday may not be the club’s final make that will play in the Southeast Asian Basketball Association (Seaba) Youth Championship.

Not only because the lineup—made up of the future of RP basketball—is yet to be reduced from 17 (that appeared Tuesday) to 15 (by mid-April), but more so because there’s a chance foreign reinforcement may come in.

Filipino-foreign reinforcement, that is.

Head coach Franz Pumaren readily acknowledged that a US trip in the coming weeks, that is meant for training, may also be used as time to see what the Filipino-American community has to offer in terms of basketball talent.

“We’re not closing our doors,” Pumaren said, responding to the issue of possibly upgrading the youth team.

It’s a practical move considering that behind the splendid presentation Tuesday of the 17-something-and-below team, there was something sorely lacking—star power.

The likes of high-school phenoms Ryan Buenafe, Arvie Bringas and Nico Salva declined to be part of the team, reportedly citing they wanted to prioritize their academics in the coming school season. Their absence leaves the youth squad with talent holes to fill, which means federation officials are open to carrying out Plan B.

But Pumaren, who said he had already looked at a potential RP youth member who was raised in Canada, noted the team doesn’t intend to suit up any ordinary foreign-raised Filipino.

“We want the player to be interested, not just be like some mercenary,” Pumaren said.

“We even want them to be based here [in the Philippines]. That would be a validation of their interest to play for the team. Most people do not approve of the notion that we should recruit from abroad, that’s why we will be setting guidelines.”

The 17 players that were introduced Monday include four from provincial high schools. The names include Gabriel Banal of Xavier, Jairold Flores of Iloilo Central Commercial, Ryan Roose Garcia of Far Eastern U, Frank Golla of Ateneo High School, Mark Joel de Guzman of St. Benilde, Mark Anthony Lopez of University of the Philippines, Jed Bryan Manguera of De La Salle Zobel, Samuel Joseph Marata of UP Integrated School, Jaypee Mendoza of Tarlac State U, Mark Jovet Mendoza of National U, Philip Paredes of Sacred Heart of Jesus in Cagayan de Oro, Jerome Ramos of Jose Rizal U, Jhon Rey Sumid of NU, Jeric Allen Teng of Xavier, Joseph Terso of NU and Joseph Tolentino of UPIS.

Pumaren’s coaching staff includes brother Dindo, Jack Santiago, Sandy Arespacochaga and Dan Rose.

The Junior Nationals are included in the Philippine Basketball League Unity Cup tournament. The Seaba event is on May 1 in Malaysia, while the Asian Youth Championships is scheduled in September in Iran.

Tao Corp. founder Jun Sy and Nokia country manager William Hamilton-Whyte were in attendance, representing the team’s chief supporters.

“The most important thing is to establish chemistry among [the team members],” BAP-Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas secretary-general Patrick Gregorio said.

amdgc82
02-20-2008, 05:32 AM
http://www.journal.com.ph/index.php?issue=2008-02-20&sec=7&aid=50060

Meet the RP Youth team *
By: Gerry Ramos*

PLANT the seeds now and bear the fruits later.
* *
With that in* mind, the Philippine youth basketball team was formally presented to the public yesterday, hopeful that the program will culminate in the country’s long cherished dream of finally qualifying to the Olympics, next slate in London in 2012.
* *
Sixteen of the country’s top young players, culled from an extensive, nationwide tryouts conducted by coach Franz Pumaren and brother Dindo, make up the youth team, whose training and international campaigns until 2010 will be bankrolled by Tao Corporation and Nokia to the tune of P76 million.
* *
“It’s a tall order, but I can assure everyone that these young players are making big sacrifices and we will do our very best to realize that goal,” said Pumaren during the team presentation at the Teatrino in Greenhills Tuesday.
* *
Philip Paredes, the 6-foot-6 promising center from Iloilo banners the 16-and-under squad that also includes Ryan Roose Garcia, Gabriel Banal, Jairold Flores, Mark Joel de Guzman, Mark Anthony Lopez, Jed Bryan Manguera, Samuel Joseph Marata, Jaypee Mendoza, Mark Jovet Mendoza, Jerome Ramos, Jhon Rey Sumido, Jeric Allen Teng, Joseph Laslee Terso, Joseph Emmanuel Tolentino and team captain Frank Golla Jr.
* *
On hand during the team launching were Tao corporation president Julio Sy Jr., Nokia country manager William Hamilto-Whyte and BAP-Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas executive director Pato Gregorio.
* *
“We have joined hands with the BAP-SBP because the dream to regain Philippines’ old glory in basketball is a dream that is inspiring enough to put all our efforts in the project,” said Sy.
* *
His statement was ably backed up by Whyte who also asked everyone to work on the same page for the realization of the goal.
* *
The three-year project will see the team go into intensive training, aside from competing in tough international tournaments with the end goal, of seeing the country qualify in the 2012 London Olympic and likewise, see action in the 2010 World Championship in Turkey.
* *
Other than their daily practices and training with the team, the players are also making additional sacrifices as all of them will have to forego plans of suiting up for collegiate leagues such as the UAAP and the NCAA at least for the coming 2008-09 seasons.
* *
“It’s not our policy to impose on them that they don’t play in the collegiate leagues. It’s up to them to decide. But what we want is to keep the team for a long time, train them and develop chemistry which we think is the key to success,” added Franz, who will also have Jack Santiago and Sandy Arespacochaga for assistants and American Dan Rose for trainer.
* *
A stint in the coming PBL Unity Cup will be part of the team’s training before it flies to California on March 15 for a two-week training course at the Abunassar Impact Basketball Camp in Carson City.
* *
The nationals will then see action in the SEABA Junior Men’s tournament in Malaysia in May, a tournament serving as a qualifier to the Asian Youth Basketball championship in Iran in September.
* *
The country last won the Asian Youth title in 1982 in Manila behind a team bannered by Hector Calma and Alfie Almario with the revered American Ron Jacobs as coach.

amdgc82
02-20-2008, 05:37 AM
http://www.malaya.com.ph/feb20/spor5.htm

SBP launches own bid for Olympics slot
BY CHRISTINE MONCADA

AN ambitious three-year basketball program to the tune of P76 million and involving youth players was launched yesterday by the BAP-Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas that aims to pave the way for the country’s return to Olympic competition, maybe as early as the 2012 London Olympics.

The members of the team–Gabriel Banal, Jairol Flores, Ryan Garcia, Frank Golla, Mark De Guzman, Mark Lopez, Jed Manguera, Samuel Marata, Jaypee Mendoza, Mark Mendoza, Philip Paredes, Jerome Ramos, Jhon Sumido, Jeric Teng, Joseph Terso and Joseph Tolentino–were presented yesterday to the public in elaborate ceremonies at the Teatrino in Greenhills, San Juan.

The team, which will be pruned down to 15 in April, will train under coach Franz Pumaren through the support of Tao Corp. and Nokia Philippines that shelled out a combined P76 million.

"We are one team with one dream and that’s to regain supremacy in Asia," said BAP-SBP executive director Patrick Gregorio. "By 2009, we are hoping to have a team that will do well in the World Championships qualifier. The same team will play in the 2010 Asian Games in Guangzhou.

"Of course the ultimate goal is to compete in the 2012 London Olympics," Gregorio added.

"We believe these young players can make it happen. They have the will and they have the guts," said Nokia Philippines executive William Hamilton-Whyte.

"Our goal is to help these players pursue excellence," said Julio Sy Jr. of Tao Corp., a major Nokia distributor in the Philippines.

As part of their training, the players will undergo an intensive two-week stint at the Abunassar Impact Basketball Camp in Carson, California in March. They are also set to compete in the Southeast Asia Basketball Association Junior men’s tournament in May in Malaysia and the Asian Youth Basketball Championships in Iran in September.

Pumaren, owner of six titles in the UAAP, will be assisted by brother Dindo, Sandy Arespacochaga and American trainer Dan Rose.

"We know we have a tough task ahead of us, especially since we are going to be up against taller and more experienced teams. But one thing is for sure, we are going to give it our best shot," said Franz.

amdgc82
02-20-2008, 05:48 AM
http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Sports&p=49&type=2&sec=30&aid=20080219166

Youth 5 launches Olympic dream
By Nelson Beltran
Wednesday, February 20, 2008

Tao Corporation and Nokia Philippines formally launched yesterday their partnership with the BAP-Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas, agreeing to put up no less than P76 million to fund a long-term program that could lead to the Philippines’ stint in the 2012 London Olympics.

Coach Franz Pumaren presented the 16 members of the Nokia RP Youth training pool in the same well-attended affair at Teatrino in Greenhills.

Gabriel Banal, Jairold Flores, Ryan Roose Garcia, Frank Golla Jr., Mark Joel de Guzman, Mark Anthony Lopez, Jed Bryan Manguera, Samuel Joseph Marata, Jaypee Mendoza, Mark Jovet Mendoza, Philip Paredes, Jerome Ramos, John Rey Sumido, Jeric Allen Teng, Joseph Terso and Joseph Emmanuel Tolentino are the hopefuls for the SEABA Youth Championship in Malaysia in May and the Asian Youth joust in Iran in September.

Tao Corp. and Nokia Phils. are fully backing the programs of the SBP under incumbent president Manny V. Pangilinan but reserve the right to terminate their sponsorship contract with the SBP should there be a change in the federation’s leadership.

SBP executive director Patrick Gregorio said their good sponsors entered into an agreement with them since they believe in the leadership of Pangilinan.

“If each one believes in the program, I do believe it can happen,” said Nokia Philippines chief William Hamilton-Whyte.

The RP Youth training pool is aligned with the National Youth Training Center programs which the SBP leaders hope will pave the way to achieve their ambitious bid of a return stint in the Olympics.

A stint in the PBL and an extensive two-week training in the United States are the immediate activities by the RP youth team to be funded by Tao Corp. and Nokia.

Pumaren is not closing the door on the entry of Fil-foreign players. He said they have already identified some talents in the US.

Gregorio said the idea of putting up a team this early and developing these players at a young age is to immediately prepare them for major international tournaments.

“The most important thing is to establish chemistry among them. By 2009, we are hoping to have a team capable of doing good in the 2010 world championship qualifier. The same team will play in the 2010 Asian Games in Guangzhou, China,” said Gregorio.

“We’ve come together to provide our nation with a program that will mentor our youth to become world-class basketball players, to become outstanding citizens, to instill in their hearts a passion to compete honorably, to be humble in victory and to represent the Philippines with pride and integrity,” said Tao Corp. president Jun Sy.

“We agreed that this basketball program shall be founded on love for country, passion for the game, leadership, integrity and commitment to excellence. We want to influence this nation with a spirit of nationalism and proud in our heritage as Filipinos,” Sy added.

Practically everyone agreed that it won’t be an easy journey but it can be done.

“Definitely it can be done as proven by Iran in the last Olympic qualifier in Tokushima, Japan. The core of their champion team were former youth players put together in a long-term program,” said Gregorio.

amdgc82
02-20-2008, 06:01 AM
http://sports.inquirer.net/inquirersports/inquirersports/view/20080220-119991/RP-Youth-five-dreams-big

RP Youth five dreams big
By Jasmine W. Payo
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 04:35:00 02/20/2008

MANILA, Philippines -- These days, it’s hardly any Filipino kid’s basketball dream.

Yet the Nokia-Philippine Youth Team believes there’s still hope in restoring the glory of playing for flag and country.

“During our time, the goal of young basketball players is to play for the national team,” said RP youth team coach Franz Pumaren. “Now, kids aspire to play in the UAAP, the NCAA or in the PBA. But we hope to bring back the pride of wearing the national colors.”

On Tuesday, in colorful dramatic rites that resembled a glamorous pep talk-cum-sendoff, the new breed of cagers whose main task is to serve as the country’s future Olympic entry was unveiled.

Showered in confetti and basking in the glow of multicolored spotlights, the young kids were introduced not just as the future of Philippine basketball, but the last hope to reclaim the glory in representing the country.

Pumaren, who suited up for the country from 1981 to 1986, went as far as comparing them to the current marquee name in the political arena.

“For the past days, we’ve been admiring and adoring a certain individual,” said Pumaren. “In fact, some of the people label him as a hero. But I want to make an appeal. If you think Jun Lozada is a hero, let’s treat these kids as the real heroes of Philippine basketball. Everyone of these kids, there’s a Jun Lozada in them.”

But there’s more politics involved in the current squad than just parallels. The P76-million funding shelled out by Nokia and Tao Corporation for the three-year program is written on a memorandum of agreement that has an exit clause -- that the sponsors can pull out anytime they want.

And, knowledgeable sources said, that pull-out may depend on the April elections of the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (SBP), the sport’s national federation, in April.

On court, though, the young men hoping to set an example are team captain Frank Golla Jr. of Ateneo de Manila University, La Salle Zobel’s Jed Manguera, University of the Philippines’ Mark Lopez, Joseph Tolentino and Samuel Joseph Marata, Far Eastern University’s Ryan Roose Garcia, National University’s Jovet Mendoza and Joseph Terso, College of St. Benilde’s Mark Joel de Guzman, Jose Rizal University’s Jerome Ramos, Xavier’s Jeric Allen Teng and Gabriel Banal, Tarlac State University’s Jaypee Mendoza, Ilolilo Central High School’s Jhon Sumido and Jairold Flores and Sacred Heart-Cagayan de Oro’s Philip Paredes.

Assisting Pumaren are younger brother Dindo of University of the East, Ateneo’s Sandy Arespacochaga and De La Salle University’s Jack Santiago.

In the coming months, the Nokia-RP Youth Team will see action in the Philippine Basketball League as a guest squad and train in the Abunassar Impact Basketball Camp in Carson City, California, before debuting in the Southeast Asian Basketball Association youth tournament in Kuala Lumpur on May 1.

Sam Miguel
02-20-2008, 11:03 AM
Size remains a problem for this team. As hardworking, as well-coached, as talented as they are, they lack size. Papot Paredes at nearly 6-foot-6 is the tallest. Unless he tops out at least at 6-foot-10 he will find the going tough against the teenager 7-footers China and Korea produce, i.e. Yi Jianlian. Frank Golla at 18 years old will most likely top out at 6-foot-6 at most, ditto Joseph Mendoza and Jerome Ramos. This is why it is imperative that we find some tall Fil-foreign players, 14- 15- maybe even 16-year old kids who are at least 6-foot-6 to 6-foot-7. I believe we should look at the Asian competition out there and see what we are truly up against. Let's take Mendoza. At 6-foot-4 he plays 4 and 5 for us. A Chinese, Taiwanese or Korean kid that size is most likely a 2/3, maybe even a 2/1. Exactly how competitive can this present Youth team be? I don't know about you guys but I think that size disparity is simply too big. Unless we have a bunch of semi-tall super shooters how can we compete? Jed Manguera is maybe 6-foot-1 and is the best shooter on the team, and he is not even in the class of say a James Martinez or a Renren Ritualo, much less legendary shooters like Allan Caidic and Bogs Adornado. Against SEA competition we will still rule. But against Asia in general, God help us all.

james_ty
02-20-2008, 11:42 AM
^^^ James thought the "Basketbol, Buhay ng Pinoy" song composed by Pato Gregorio was nice and catchy too by the way. ;D


They played it during the press launch and I liked it.

Mr. Gregorio used this song to sell his idea to the PBA board of governors during the selection process for the new commissioner but the board members were not sold on the idea.

Kaya ito na nga ang theme song ng BAP-SBP.

pio_valenz
02-20-2008, 02:14 PM
Why are Banal and Teng still playing in the Tiong Lian tournament?

erichubert
02-20-2008, 03:05 PM
Probably because their tournament ends this week so they could still concentrate on the more intesive part of the Youth team training and the actual tournaments which will start around May.

Schortsanitis
02-20-2008, 05:42 PM
Size remains a problem for this team. As hardworking, as well-coached, as talented as they are, they lack size. Papot Paredes at nearly 6-foot-6 is the tallest. Unless he tops out at least at 6-foot-10 he will find the going tough against the teenager 7-footers China and Korea produce, i.e. Yi Jianlian. Frank Golla at 18 years old will most likely top out at 6-foot-6 at most, ditto Joseph Mendoza and Jerome Ramos. This is why it is imperative that we find some tall Fil-foreign players, 14- 15- maybe even 16-year old kids who are at least 6-foot-6 to 6-foot-7. I believe we should look at the Asian competition out there and see what we are truly up against. Let's take Mendoza. At 6-foot-4 he plays 4 and 5 for us. A Chinese, Taiwanese or Korean kid that size is most likely a 2/3, maybe even a 2/1. Exactly how competitive can this present Youth team be? I don't know about you guys but I think that size disparity is simply too big. Unless we have a bunch of semi-tall super shooters how can we compete? Jed Manguera is maybe 6-foot-1 and is the best shooter on the team, and he is not even in the class of say a James Martinez or a Renren Ritualo, much less legendary shooters like Allan Caidic and Bogs Adornado. Against SEA competition we will still rule. But against Asia in general, God help us all.


Agree. I'm too scared to ponder or reflect on it, after seeing how tall the Chinese Youth team is.

If you think about it, you end up reflecting how pathetically short our players are, compared to other international teams. So I just don't think too much about it.

amdgc82
02-21-2008, 05:55 AM
http://www.journal.com.ph/index.php?issue=2008-02-21&sec=7&aid=50095

RP youth squad sasabak sa SEABA Jrs *
*
ISANG ambisyosong tatlong taong programa ang inilaan ng BAP-Samahang
Basketbol ng Pilipinas para sa national youth team na sasabak sa mga international competitions ngayong taon.
* *
Sinabi ng BAP-SBP executive director na si Patrick Gregorio na sa tulong ng corporate sponsor Nokia, aasikasuhin ng BAP-SBP ang mga batang manlalaro sa loob ng tatlong taon na kung saan ang balak ay magdala ng Pilipinas ng isang malakas na koponan para sa FIBA-Asia Championships at sa 2012 London Olympics.
* *
“For the next three years, we will take care of the boys and this is part of the parallel program for the BAP-SBP. We are fine-tuning it with the PBA and PBL because in the future, when these kids join the big leagues, we may also
consider them for the program for the men’s team,” sabi ni Gregorio.
* *
“We have accomplished a lot in the past 10 months and this is part of our dream – to strengthen basketball in the Philippines and regain the glory that we once had in Asia,” aniya.
* *
Ang RP Youth Team na sasabak sa SEABA Juniors Basketball Tournament na gaganapin sa Malaysia sa Mayo at sa FIBA-Asia Junior Championships na gagawin sa Iran sa Setyembre, na siyang bahagi ng BAP-SBP youth basketball program.
* *
Magiging guest team ang national youth players sa PBL Unity Cup.
* *
Si La Salle coach Franz Pumaren ang gigiya sa RP Youth team habang ang kanyang nakababatang kapatid na si Dindo ng University of the East ay isa sa mga assistant coaches.
* *
Kabilang sa mga kasali sa national youth team ay sina Jeric Teng na anak ng dating PBA player Alvin Teng, si Gabriel Banal na anak ng Alaska assistant coach na si Joel Banal, Gil Cortez Jr. na anak ni dating PBA Rookie of the Year Gil Cortez Sr. at Tata Marata na pamangkin ng dating PBA player na si Ricric Marata.
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Pinakamatangkad na miyembro ng youth squad ang 6-foot-6 na sentrong si Philip Paredes mula sa Sacred Heart Academy ng Cagayan de Oro City habang si 6-foot-2 Jed Manguera ng La Salle-Zobel ang magbibida sa scoring.
* *
Kinumpleto nina Jairold Flores, Ryan Garcia, Frank Golla, Mark Joel de Guzman, Mark Lopez, Jaypee Mendoza, Jovet Mendoza, Jerome Ramos, John Rey Sumido, Joseph Terso at Joseph Tolentino ang line-up ng national youth team.
* *
Aalis ang RP Youth sa Marso 15 sa United States para sumalang sa isang matinding training course sa Abunassar Impact Basketball Camp sa Carson City, California.
* *
Binanggit pa ni Pumaren na hindi niya sinasarado ang pinto para sa mga Fil-Ams na sumali sa RP Youth team.

amdgc82
02-26-2008, 06:15 AM
Can RP Youth five duplicate ’70s record? (http://sports.inquirer.net/inquirersports/inquirersports/view/20080226-121218/Can-RP-Youth-five-duplicate-70s-record)
Clean Living
By Manolo Iñigo
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 04:59:00 02/26/2008

MANILA, Philippines -- I salute Nokia and Tao Corp. for bankrolling the RP Youth Team, hoping to restore the good old days when the Philippines was the undisputed basketball champion of Asia.

I also sincerely wish that this young team, mentored by Franz Pumaren, succeeds in its quest to serve as the country’s future Olympic bets. And I hope, too, that this team duplicates the unbeaten record of its counterparts during the 1970s.

Composing this year’s RP Youth Team are skipper Frank Golla Jr., Jed Manguera, Mark Lopez, Joseph Tolentino, Samuel Joseph Marata, Ryan Roose Garcia, Jover Mendoza, Joseph Terso, Mark Joel de Guzman, Jerome Ramos, Jeric Allen Teng, Gabriel Banal, Jaypee Mendoza, Jhon Sumido, Jairod Flores and Philip Paredes.

Assisting coach Franz Pumaren are his younger brother Dindo of University of the East, Ateneo de Manila University’s Sandy Arespacochaga and De La Salle University’s Jack Santiago.

In the 1970s, the Philippines was always a force to reckon with in the dash-and-dribble sport. In fact, our gritty Filipino cagers won a total of 32 straight games in the Asian Basketball Confederation (ABC) Youth Championships, a record unmatched by any national team in the region.

When the RP team competed in the inaugural ABC Youth Championship in Seoul, the Filipinos won the crown via a six-game sweep.

Coached by Ignacio “Ning” Ramos, the members of the team were skipper William “Bogs” Adornado, Ricardo Cleofas, Ernesto Estrada, Rosario Martires, Marte Samson, Manuel Paner, Johnny Revilla, Jesse Sullano, Eusebio Adolfo, Jesus San Diego, Olympio Santos and Rodolfo Soriano.

During the next three staging of the ABC Youth tilts in 1972, 1974 and 1977, the Philippines stayed unbeaten.

The members of that 1972 team were Ramon Fernandez, Fortunato “Atoy” Co, Philip Cezar, Miguel Bilbao, Quirino Salazar, Gregorio Dionisio, Jaime Noblezada, Rodolfo Segura, Rey Franco, Marcelino Diputado, Norberto Rivera and Edgardo Carvajal. The coach was Fely Fajardo.

In 1974, the team members were Alfredo Hubalde, Romualdo Cabading, Alfonso Mora, Danilo Pribhdas, Florencio Ritualo, Roberto dela Rosa, Carlos Rodriguez, Virgilio dela Cruz, Bernard Fabiosa, Eleazar Capacio, Pablo Ocampo IV, Hubert Filipinas, Jojo de Guzman and Cecilio Marcelino.

The 1977 team also preserved the clean slate. Its members were Bernardo Carpio, Steve Watson, Anthony Dasalla, Alex Clariño, Matthew Gaston, J. Manansala, Nathaniel Castillo, Romulo Mamaril, Ricardo Mariano, Rodolfo Lalota, Roberto Poblete and Chuck Barreiro.

In 1978, the Philippines fielded one of the tallest squads ever assembled with an average height of 6-foot-2. The members were skipper Joel Banal, Gregorio Narvasa, Joey Marquez, Elpidio Villamin, Jose Yango, R. Dizon, Marte Saldaña, B. de Jesus, G. Lucido, Conrado Pasco, Hector Calma, Arturo Cristobal, C. Ramas and Melchor Ravanes. Arturo Valenzona was the coach.

Assistant coach Roehl Nadurata said discipline was a foremost virtue of that team. “The boys followed curfew hours. There was no drinking, no smoking, no monkey business. Training budget was only P135,000.”

For the 2008 team, Franz Pumaren, was given a war chest of P76 million.

Although the sponsorship package includes an exit clause, still I would like to congratulate them for their efforts to relive the country’s golden era in the sport.

Sam Miguel
02-26-2008, 11:24 AM
^ I only hope that P76 million is well-spent. As much as I respect the boys and the coaches it is still painfully obvious that this is a small team that will find the going very rough against mainstream Asian competition.

Sam Miguel
02-26-2008, 09:35 PM
At the end of the third quarter it was 75-45 and it was looking more and more like the mismatch it was first touted to be. Lasalle Zobel's Jed Manguera had at that point scored 12 points, with about three treys. 6-foot-6 Papot Paredes showed a lot of agility and mobility and even let go of a trey of his own middle of the third. Jaypee Mendoza was also hitting good shots coming off their motion offense. Mark De Guzman was handling pretty well, even getting around the defense and creating opportunities for himself and his team. Gabriel Banal and Mark Lopez were doing a little bit of everything. Joseph Tolentino was limping but tried to carry the quarterbacking cudgels.

On the opposing side it was a pretty egalitarian offense with the ball moving around whip-quick and open men being found constantly. Kirk Long and Chris Tiu were filling it up from long range, Tonino Gonzaga, Eman Monfort and Eric Salamat were getting good looks in transition, Nonoy Baclao, Raba Al Husseini and Mike Baldos were operating well inside. Passes were very crisp and swift, with the drive and draw and the screen and roll proving very effective. When Ateneo went on a press Alec Rivera, Bacon Austria and Jai Reyes had a field day.

All told it was pretty much a mismatch with Ateneo on top all the way. I didn't bother to stay for the fourth quarter.

AnthonyServinio
02-27-2008, 12:41 AM
Can RP Youth five duplicate ’70s record? (http://sports.inquirer.net/inquirersports/inquirersports/view/20080226-121218/Can-RP-Youth-five-duplicate-70s-record)
Clean Living
By Manolo Iñigo
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 04:59:00 02/26/2008

* * *
In the 1970s, the Philippines was always a force to reckon with in the dash-and-dribble sport. In fact, our gritty Filipino cagers won a total of 32 straight games in the Asian Basketball Confederation (ABC) Youth Championships, a record unmatched by any national team in the region.

* * *

* * *UHHHM, it's tough to compare the current team because those Philippine Youth teams of the 1970's were composed of 99% over-aged players.* *::)

pio_valenz
02-27-2008, 03:32 AM
^And I think Hector Calma set a record of sorts by playing on TWO youth teams - in 1978 and in 1982. For the latter team he was already 22 years old.

The first time the Philippines fielded a legitimate youth team was in 1987 when we finished second behind China. That team included Benjie Paras, Nelson Asaytono, Bong Alvarez, Zaldy Realubit, Jun Reyes, Dickie Bachmann and Joey Guanio.

Schortsanitis
02-27-2008, 08:43 AM
* * *UHHHM, it's tough to compare the current team because those Philippine Youth teams of the 1970's were composed of 99% over-aged players.* *::)


The question is, though, nowadays, even if we do field an overage team, will we still win?

dioning
02-27-2008, 12:36 PM
Can RP Youth five duplicate ’70s record? (http://sports.inquirer.net/inquirersports/inquirersports/view/20080226-121218/Can-RP-Youth-five-duplicate-70s-record)
Clean Living
By Manolo Iñigo
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 04:59:00 02/26/2008

MANILA, Philippines -- I salute Nokia and Tao Corp. for bankrolling the RP Youth Team, hoping to restore the good old days when the Philippines was the undisputed basketball champion of Asia.

I also sincerely wish that this young team, mentored by Franz Pumaren, succeeds in its quest to serve as the country’s future Olympic bets. And I hope, too, that this team duplicates the unbeaten record of its counterparts during the 1970s.

Composing this year’s RP Youth Team are skipper Frank Golla Jr., Jed Manguera, Mark Lopez, Joseph Tolentino, Samuel Joseph Marata, Ryan Roose Garcia, Jover Mendoza, Joseph Terso, Mark Joel de Guzman, Jerome Ramos, Jeric Allen Teng, Gabriel Banal, Jaypee Mendoza, Jhon Sumido, Jairod Flores and Philip Paredes.

Assisting coach Franz Pumaren are his younger brother Dindo of University of the East, Ateneo de Manila University’s Sandy Arespacochaga and De La Salle University’s Jack Santiago.

In the 1970s, the Philippines was always a force to reckon with in the dash-and-dribble sport. In fact, our gritty Filipino cagers won a total of 32 straight games in the Asian Basketball Confederation (ABC) Youth Championships, a record unmatched by any national team in the region.

When the RP team competed in the inaugural ABC Youth Championship in Seoul, the Filipinos won the crown via a six-game sweep.

Coached by Ignacio “Ning” Ramos, the members of the team were skipper William “Bogs” Adornado, Ricardo Cleofas, Ernesto Estrada, Rosario Martires, Marte Samson, Manuel Paner, Johnny Revilla, Jesse Sullano, Eusebio Adolfo, Jesus San Diego, Olympio Santos and Rodolfo Soriano.

During the next three staging of the ABC Youth tilts in 1972, 1974 and 1977, the Philippines stayed unbeaten.

The members of that 1972 team were Ramon Fernandez, Fortunato “Atoy” Co, Philip Cezar, Miguel Bilbao, Quirino Salazar, Gregorio Dionisio, Jaime Noblezada, Rodolfo Segura, Rey Franco, Marcelino Diputado, Norberto Rivera and Edgardo Carvajal. The coach was Fely Fajardo.

In 1974, the team members were Alfredo Hubalde, Romualdo Cabading, Alfonso Mora, Danilo Pribhdas, Florencio Ritualo, Roberto dela Rosa, Carlos Rodriguez, Virgilio dela Cruz, Bernard Fabiosa, Eleazar Capacio, Pablo Ocampo IV, Hubert Filipinas, Jojo de Guzman and Cecilio Marcelino.

The 1977 team also preserved the clean slate. Its members were Bernardo Carpio, Steve Watson, Anthony Dasalla, Alex Clariño, Matthew Gaston, J. Manansala, Nathaniel Castillo, Romulo Mamaril, Ricardo Mariano, Rodolfo Lalota, Roberto Poblete and Chuck Barreiro.

In 1978, the Philippines fielded one of the tallest squads ever assembled with an average height of 6-foot-2. The members were skipper Joel Banal, Gregorio Narvasa, Joey Marquez, Elpidio Villamin, Jose Yango, R. Dizon, Marte Saldaña, B. de Jesus, G. Lucido, Conrado Pasco, Hector Calma, Arturo Cristobal, C. Ramas and Melchor Ravanes. Arturo Valenzona was the coach.

Assistant coach Roehl Nadurata said discipline was a foremost virtue of that team. “The boys followed curfew hours. There was no drinking, no smoking, no monkey business. Training budget was only P135,000.”

For the 2008 team, Franz Pumaren, was given a war chest of P76 million.

Although the sponsorship package includes an exit clause, still I would like to congratulate them for their efforts to relive the country’s golden era in the sport.


puro overage naman ata yung mga players nung 70's e

mighty_lion
02-28-2008, 02:23 PM
I think the Youth Team are better off playing against Manila-based HS squad first before contending Manila-based college squads. Now im beginning to doubt what good will this PBL experience give to them.

Schortsanitis
02-28-2008, 03:33 PM
Just to give an idea of what kind of opposition this RP Youth Team will be getting, am posting here a list of POSSIBLE Chinese Youth Team players, courtesy of "FEIFEI" (as in, "Amoy FEIFEI?) at the Interbasket forums:

http://forums.interbasket.net/showpost.php?p=142884&postcount=407

Wang Zheng 216cm 120 kg C
Zhang Zhe 221cm C
Xu Jing Long 212cm PF/C
Li Mu Hao 210cm PF/C
Yu Cheng 207cm PF
Wang Jun Jie 202cm 100kg PF
Sun Tong Ling 206cm 105kg PF
Gong Han Ling 207cm 95kg PF/SF
Ding Jin Hui 205cm 100kg PF/SF NT player may play in beijing.
Cai Liang 204cm 95kg SF Yao Ming's CBA club
Liu Su Nan 200 94kg SF
He Tian Ju 203 96 kg SF
Wei Ran 194cm 84kg SF
Wu Nan 196 90kg SF
He Zhong Mian 198cm PG
Cao Fei 193cm 80kg PG
Wang Ru Heng 192cm 84kg PG
Liu Yong He 196cm 80kg PG
Zhang Cai Bao 188cm 80kg PG
Wang Yin Liang 183cm 80kg PG

Sam Miguel
02-28-2008, 04:01 PM
12 kids over 2 meters tall, that means they're at least 6-foot-7, and they're likely used to playing against other kids their size. The rest are nearly 2 meters tall, which means those are in the 6-foot-4 to 6-foot-6 range.

God help us, and Papot Paredes at nearly 6-foot-6 is the tallest player we have. If Jed Manguera and Mark De Guzman will be our main scorers, I shudder to think how they will get looks against kids a foot or so taller than they are.

Our best bet is to go for all out full court pressure from start to finish. That seems to be the easiest way for us to get possessions without having to battle it out for rebounds against kids who are obviously a lot bigger. We need to generate turnovers off some good pressure defense so that we can beat the bigger defenders down in transition. I do not think we stand much of a chance in the half court, not against kids this size.

glock23
02-28-2008, 05:51 PM
franz's system is known for it's 40 mins of hell anyway! Sana napahiram ang mga baste boys at si salva para may added talent but i guess we just have to make do with what we have :)

Schortsanitis
02-28-2008, 05:59 PM
Here's the same list of PROSPECTIVE Chinese Youth Team members, this time in the English measurement system. Take note of He Zhong Mian, a Point Guard, who is reportedly as tall as Papot Paredes:

Sun Zhe (7'1", 264 lbs, C)
Zhang Zhe (7'3", C, will train with the Australian Sydney Kings for 2 years starting this year)
Xu Jin Long (6'11 1/2", PF/C)
Li Mu Hao (6'10 1/2", PF/C)
Yu Chen (6'9 1/2", PF)
Wang Jun Jie (6'7 1/2", 220 lbs, PF)
Sun Tong Lin (6'9", 230 lbs, PF)
Dong Han Lin (6'9 1/2", 209 lbs, PF/SF)
Ding Jin Hui (6'9", 220 lbs, PF/SF, NT player may play in Beijing)
Cai Liang (6'8", 209 lbs, SF, Yao Ming's CBA club)
Liu Shu Nan (6'7", 207 lbs, SF)
He Tian Ju (6'8", 211 lbs, SF)
Sui Ran (6'4", 185 lbs, SF)
Wu Nan (6'5", 198 lbs, SF)
He Zhong Mian (6'6", PG)
Cao Fei (6'4", 176 lbs, PG)
Wang Ru Heng (6'3 1/2", 185 lbs, PG)
Liu Yong He (6'5", 176 lbs, PG)
Zhang Cai Bao (6'2", 176 lbs, PG)
Wang Ling Liang (6'0", 176 lbs, PG)

mighty_lion
02-28-2008, 06:14 PM
Wow, anlalaki naman nyan. We have no choice but to play small ball then. Live and die with the system.

Run faster!
Shoot better!
Play smarter!
Defend harder!
And all pray together...

Shout it again 1,000 times. ;D

Hopely the skills set of our boys are far more advanced than thiers kahit papano sana.

GHRanger
02-28-2008, 08:47 PM
Wow!!! Daig pa NBA teams.

Kailangan din natin ng advance scouting... para makadiskarte tayo.

Pero kung sa press lang 2 of the best press coaches are with them. Yun lang we have to make sure na mag gel sila... ang press kasi kailangan ng coordination, anticipation at teamwork. Importante din yung conditioning... siguro sa budget nila, makakuha sila ng 1-2 conditioning coaches.

IMHO, isabak muna sila sa HS at College Teams para mapractice ng mabuti yung plays at ma-appreciate nila yung plays, then saka na sila sumabak sa PBL.

At tama ka ML, sabayan mo na ng pag alay sa lahat ng mga santo ng eskwelahan natin.

Schortsanitis
02-28-2008, 09:02 PM
Sometimes, I keep thinking how basketball in our country would be like, if we had players as tall as they have over there in China.

Anyway, am reposting some of their photos here from the Interbasket website, in case anybody is curious how these kids look like. *They're all tall & lean looking greyhounds, looks like they were built for speed:

Xu Jin Long, 6'11 1/2", no. 15
Li Mu Hao, 6'10 1/2", no. 14
http://bbs.hoopchina.com/attachment/Mon_0801/24_461108_c2042ac32cb4c92.jpg


Sun Zhe, 7'3", no. 15
http://blog.hoopchina.com/attachment/Day_080207/0_3582_0e271900c5174c0.jpg


Ding Jin Hui, 6'9", no. 23
http://blog.hoopchina.com/attachment/Day_080207/0_3582_e61e3d5db8cae15.jpg

* *Again, thanks to "Fei Fei" from the Interbasket forums


By the way, is it really too late, to call Bringas, Buenafe & Salva back to the RP Youth team?* With opposition like this, the team needs all the help it can get.* Just a thought.

Schortsanitis
02-29-2008, 12:52 PM
Below is the schedule of the RP Youth Team in the PBL for the next couple of weeks:

MAR 1 (SAT) – THE ARENA, SAN JUAN
-* 12:00 NN Burger King* vs. RP Youth*

MAR 4 (TUE) – RIZAL MEMORIAL COLISEUM
-* 6:00 PM RP Youth* vs. Hapee Toothpaste

MAR 8 (SAT) – THE ARENA, SAN JUAN
-* 12:00 NN RP Youth* vs. Pharex Medics*

MAR 11 (TUE) – RIZAL MEMORIAL COLISEUM
-* 6:00 PM Bacchus Energy Drink vs. RP Youth*

* Taken from the PBL website: www.philippinebasketballleague.org

Schortsanitis
02-29-2008, 05:18 PM
The lineup of the RP Youth Team competing in the PBL are as follows:

http://www.philippinebasketballleague.org/nokiapilipinas.php

NOKIA PILIPINAS YOUTH TEAM - TEAM LINE-UP
*
No. / Player / Height / Position
4 TERSO, Joseph Laslee F. 5'10" PG
5 MANGUERA, Jed Bryan 6'0" SG
6 SUMIDO, Jhon Rey 6'2" SG
7 LOPEZ, Mark Anthony B. 6'0" SG
8 MENDOZA, Mark Jovet P. 6'3" PF
9 MARATA, Samuel Joseph 6'1" SG
10 GOLLA, Frank Jr. 6'4"* C
11 FLORES, Jairold 6'2" PF
12 TOLENTINO, Joseph U. 5'9" PG
13 PAREDES, Philip M. 6'5" C
14 RAMOS, Jerome L. 6'4"* C
15 BANAL, Gabriel* 6'2"* SF
16 TENG, Jeric Allen U. 6'1" SG
18 MENDOZA, Jaypee 6'2"* SF
19 DE GUZMAN, Mark Joel 6'0"* SG
20 GARCIA, Ryan Roose 5'10" PG
* *
Team Manager: Mr. Jun Sy
Asst. Team Manager: Mrs. Ito Lopa

Coaching Staff:* *
Head Coach: Mr. Franz Pumaren

Asst. Coaches:
Mr. Ferdinand Pumaren
Mr. Gerardo Santiago
Mr. Alexander Arespacochaga

Conditioning Coach: Mr. Daniel Rose

Team Official: Mr. Raul Lacson

GHRanger
02-29-2008, 06:00 PM
Conditioning Coach: Mr. Daniel Rose


Thanks for the info... this guy is good news for the team.

amdgc82
03-01-2008, 12:59 AM
Nokia RP Youth squad to shape up in NBA training center (http://sports.inquirer.net/inquirersports/inquirersports/view/20080229-122052/Nokia-RP-Youth-squad--to-shape-up-in-NBA-training-center)
By Jasmine W. Payo
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 22:34:00 02/29/2008

NO LESS than the training ground of NBA superstars will serve as the summer camp of the Nokia Philippine Youth Team.

The under-18 squad mentored by Franz Pumaren will head for the Abunassar Impact Basketball (AIB) at Carson City, California in the United States for an intensive two-week training program starting March 15.

AIB has been the venue for off-season training sessions of NBA superstars including Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce of the Boston Celtics, Detroit Pistons' Chauncey Billups and Tayshaun Prince, New Jersey Nets' Vince Carter, Utah Jazz's Andrei Kirilenko, Golden State Warriors' Baron Davis and former Miami Heat forward Antoine Walker.

Joe Abunassar, the head trainer of the camp, has also worked with the legendary, feisty college mentor Bobby Knight.

AIB features a 125-acre, state-of-the-art athletic complex that boasts of three NBA regulated hardwood courts, world-class weight and performance facilities and 18 teaching stations.

"We'll try to be a very defensive team," said Pumaren, who will be assisted by his younger brother Dindo, Sandy Arespacochaga and Jack Santiago.

"Like what I stressed to the players, I don't think we can outscore our opponents, especially in the Asian level," Pumaren added. "So we'll try to be really aggressive, press a lot and give emphasis more on defense. I think that's the only way for us to compete."

The Nokia RP Youth Team is composed of team captain Frank Golla of Ateneo, La Salle Zobel's Jed Manguera, Xavier's Gabriel Banal and Alvin Teng, University of the Philippines' Mark Lopez, Joseph Tolentino and Joseph Marata, National University's Jovet Mendoza and Joseph Terso, Far Eastern's Ryan Roose Garcia, Jose Rizal's Jerome Ramos, St. Benilde's Mark Joel de Guzman, Tarlac State's Jaypee Mendoza, Iloilo Central High School's Jhon Sumido and Jairod Flores and Sacred Heart-Cagayan de Oro's Philip Paredes.

The squad will plunge into its first international competition in the Southeast Asian Basketball Association (Seaba) youth tournament in Malaysia on May 1, followed by the Asian Youth Championship in Iran in September.

Schortsanitis
03-01-2008, 06:57 PM
Burger King vs. Nokia RP Youth Team

* Burger King defeated the Nokia-RP Youth team by 22 pts., 83-61. 20 + point losses generally aren't good, except that I thought the beating would be worst. But it wasn't. The older, more seasoned Burger Kings never led by more than 23 or 25 pts. in the game, & at the half they led by only 15 pts., 49-34. Not bad for a bunch of High School kids playing their first game against players who are as much as more than a decade older than them.

* Its obvious though that the team still needs a lot of work:
- Some players in the court at one time had trouble moving the ball around when the defense pressed them closely;
- They had trouble setting up their offense during a full court press (though they didn't seem to turnover the ball that much);
- And when they tried to press Marcy Arellano on the sides at half court, most of the time Marcy was able to just dribble thru it & making them pay for it by scoring quickly
- The Youth players were missing a lot of open shots, they just couldn't seem to buy a basket at times
- The shots they made were either outside shots, or drive in plays. Almost no inside presence whatsoever

* I was expecting to see a cat-quick, high-leaping player in Papot Paredes, but instead, I saw something a bit less:
- He's definitely not 6'7", as the 6'7" Lawrence Bonus had a visible height advantage over him; He looked a bit shorter than the 6'6" Jason Ballesteros, so that would make him only around 6'5" at best
- He's quite thin, & standing beside a hulking Barcellano, he looked FRIGHTENINGLY thin. It was like watching the no. "10"
- I didn't see any exceptional quickness in Paredes, & his leaping ability was not exceptional, though I did see him block a shot or two
- He made 3 perimeter shots, 2 of them from the 3-pt. area. He definitely seems to have a great touch from the perimeter
- At this point in his career, I'd compare him more like a Paul Sanga / Robert Kave / Hans Thiele type of player, a tall, outside shooting big man, w/ very little or no post game on offense. I think it will take some time to bring him to the level of those guys. W/ that lean frame, he doesn't look like he's built for frolicking in the paint, anyway.
- Just his luck, though, as he ended up w/ what seemed like an ankle injury midway into the 4th quarter. He will likely miss some games, further worsening this team's frontcourt problems.

* Among the players, the ones that impressed me most were the Point Guards Terso & Tolentino. Tolentino played without the fear & tentativeness of most of the other players, bringing down the ball quickly, & w/ a lot of authority. He also made 1 or 2 difficult layups, & even making a no-look assist pass. Terso also brought down the ball quickly despite pressure from the other PG, made a couple of good passes & therefore distributed the ball around well against the half court defenses. Which was why I was wondering Franz would give more minutes to Garcia at Point, when he obviously didn't seem to have made as much impact as good as those 2 other Point Guards.

* The biggest worry w/ this Youth team, though, is the lack of effective big men who could clog the lanes & get those rebounds. Despite getting blocked a couple of times, the Burger Kings were able to effectively attack the paint w/ penetrations & passing plays, & had overwhelming control of the boards on both ends of the court. Golla is wider than Paredes, but obviously still learning, as is this team's other big men.

* There were flashes of promise, though. Teng & Marata made some flashy, difficult layups inside the paint; That bald Mendoza seems to have good spring in his leges, mixing it up inside the paint on one play effectively. Manguera seems to have shot well from the perimeter. As they settle down & play more games against PBL teams, I think we'll be able to see which players will be able to bring their game up to the next level.

* I wonder though, if players like Ryan Buenafe, or Nico Salva would've made an impact right away w/ this team. They could also most certainly use guys like Junmar Fajardo (if he's still eligible) & Niko Monachini in the frontcourt.

thadzonline
03-01-2008, 11:34 PM
saw Clark Bautista of BIS play earlier in the NSBC secondary division Finals and man, that kid is one hell of a shooter

Sam Miguel
03-02-2008, 10:14 AM
Shortsanaitis, Ito Lopa is NOT a "Mister"; she is in fact a "Missus". She is Lady Eagle Mariana Lopa's mom. Team patron Jun Sy specifically asked her to be involved in taking care of the team because she is a varsity mom and was once upon a time a women's varsity player. 8)

The RP Team did ok yesterday in their first PBL game, although they lost 83-61 to Burger King. Jojo Tolentino and Tata Marata of UPIS led the team in scoring with nine points each; Papot Paredes collared 10 boards. The team moved the ball around a lot better and were able to hold their full court press with more resolve this time. It took the bull-strong duo of Nestor David and RJ Masbang to lead the BK breakaway.

Schortsanitis
03-02-2008, 11:32 AM
Shortsanaitis, Ito Lopa is NOT a "Mister"; she is in fact a "Missus". She is Lady Eagle Mariana Lopa's mom. Team patron Jun Sy specifically asked her to be involved in taking care of the team because she is a varsity mom and was once upon a time a women's varsity player. 8)

Thanks for the correction, but the info was taken from the PBL website.* I think they need to correct it there also fast.* I'll correct my previous post, though.*

gameface_one
03-03-2008, 03:09 PM
From the PBL:



The players on the Nokia Philippine Under-19 basketball team competing as a guest team in the ongoing PBL Lipovitan Amino Sports Drink Cup will not be considered PBL players under any circumstances.

For a player to be considered PBL-eligible or full-fledged PBL players, they must apply to join the league through the annual rookie draft or be a direct hire by a team competing for the PBL conference championship.

As guest competitors playing only an eight-game schedule, the Nokia-RP Youth Team is not eligible to compete for the championship.

Since none of the players on the Nokia-RP Youth Team went through the draft or were hired directly by a competing team in the ongoing PBL conference, and that they are playing under the auspices of a BAP-SBP initiative to better prepare them for two important international competitions representing the country, they will not or ever be considered players of the PBL, now and in the future until they fulfill the basic requirements to be considered such.

thadzonline
03-03-2008, 11:23 PM
at least that item is clarified as early as now since it might pose some debate later on

Joescoundrel
03-04-2008, 11:09 AM
From the PBL:



The players on the Nokia Philippine Under-19 basketball team competing as a guest team in the ongoing PBL Lipovitan Amino Sports Drink Cup will not be considered PBL players under any circumstances.

For a player to be considered PBL-eligible or full-fledged PBL players, they must apply to join the league through the annual rookie draft or be a direct hire by a team competing for the PBL conference championship.

As guest competitors playing only an eight-game schedule, the Nokia-RP Youth Team is not eligible to compete for the championship.

Since none of the players on the Nokia-RP Youth Team went through the draft or were hired directly by a competing team in the ongoing PBL conference, and that they are playing under the auspices of a BAP-SBP initiative to better prepare them for two important international competitions representing the country, they will not or ever be considered players of the PBL, now and in the future until they fulfill the basic requirements to be considered such.



Compete for the conference championship... ;D

Schortsanitis
03-07-2008, 08:10 AM
2008 Lebanese Youth Team

1 - Ralph Akl (6'2")
2 - Joey Zaloum (6'0")
3 - Jad Kabbara (6'2")
4 - Mohammad Jalloul (6'3")
5 - Philippe Nader (6'3")
6 - Khalil Aoun (6'3")
7 - Hassan maatouk (6'5 1/2")
8 - Anthony Barza(6'4")
9 - Jad Moubarak (6'9", C/F, Aintoura)
10 - Nabil Smaha (6'1")
11 - Vincent Khoury (6'5 1/2")
12 - Mickel Nar (6'1")
13 - Elie Haber (7'2", C, had US training recently)
14 - Ramy Rizk (6'3")
15 - Tarek Bou Malham (6'3")

Average : 6'4"

** Courtesy of "daniab" from the Interbasket forums:
http://forums.interbasket.net/showpost.php?p=150016&postcount=11

-* This team looks like it has 2 really tall Centers, but take away those 2, & we can compete w/ the rest of the team it in terms of height.* But one of those 2 are likely to be on the floor at any given time, so our NT needs to find a way to try to contain them, if possible
-* Athletically, though, I don't know how good those guys are.* Most of our Youth players are on the lean side, so even if we are able to compete vertically, we might have problems horizontally

Joescoundrel
03-07-2008, 11:38 AM
^ If this Lebanon team is getting anything remotely like the training and support the senior team is getting then we can expect them to be athletic, well-coached and disciplined. I think with a team like this they are looking to dominate the inside, rule the boards and get out on the break as much as they can just like their seniors. Take away the 6'9" and the 7'2" kid and indeed we can go up against them head to head. Our guys have to gang rebound because our tallest player (Philip Paredes) is only 6'6" on a good day. I've yet to see much authority off the boards from the other bigs like Jerome Ramos and Joseph Mendoza, so we have our work cut out for us matching up inside against teams with size like Lebanon.

Schortsanitis
03-07-2008, 07:31 PM
^^^
Wait until you see the other Youth NTs. Those Middle Eastern countries are REALLY tall, making even Lebanon as some sort of runt ....

Schortsanitis
03-08-2008, 09:26 PM
2008 Iranian Youth NT Pool

1 - Pouria Kazemi (2007 WABA U17 member)
2 - Sorendir Boghosian (6'9", 2007 WABA U17 member)
3 - Shahab Soltani
4 - Amir-Hesam Abdollahi
5 - Morteza Abdollahzadeh
6 - Reza Shahbaznejad
7 - Ramin Honarmand
8 - Mohammad Amjad (6'1", 2007 WABA U17 member)
9 - Mohammadreza Falahat (2007 WABA U17 member)
10 - Ramtin Zare' Shirazi (6'7", 2007 WABA U17 member)
11 - Emad Salmani (6'1", 2007 WABA U17 member)
12 - Ehsan Afarikan
13 - Rouzbeh Razeghin
14 - Amir Samani
15 - Mehdi Shirchang (6'3", 2007 WABA U17 member)
16 - Mohamamd Hassanzadeh (6'7", 2007 WABA U17 member)
17 - Bagher Ghamari
18 - Farbod Farman (6'10", 2007 WABA U17 member, reserve C for Mahram, Iranian Superleague Champion recently, can really leap-see pic)
19 - Mohammad Panahi
20 - Mohammad Jamshidi
21 - Ghahraman Amro
22 - Saeid Mohammadi

Head Coach: Mohammadreza Nouri
Assistant Coach 1: Mohammad Rezapour
Assistant Coach 2: Ali Asna-Asharan

** Courtesy of "mohsena2631" from the Interbasket forums

-* Iranian Youth NT training pool of 22 players, some of whom were members of the 2007 Iranian Youth team that competed in the West Asian Basketball Association Under-17 (WABA U17) tournament
-* If the listed heights are true, then the Iranian NT seems to be frighteningly tall, w/ 4 players listed at 6'7" or above.* Based on the pics, they do seem to be really tall, & athletic, too, judging by how high they could jump


-* No news yet on the Syrian Youth NT, but judging from the pics, they look awfully tall also.* They have a 7'1" player who competed in the 2007 WABA U17 tournament, so definitely will be competing in the 2008 WABA U18 tournament.* He's reportedly not that good, though, at THEIR (West Asian) level.* I wonder if that will be the case against us.


Iran (White) no. 15 is 6'10" Farbod Farman
Syria (Red) no. 7, 7'1"

http://www.mehrnews.com/mehr_media/image/2007/08/286971_orig.jpg

http://www.mehrnews.com/mehr_media/image/2007/08/286958_orig.jpg

http://www.mehrnews.com/mehr_media/image/2007/08/286970_orig.jpg

Nike Air
03-09-2008, 08:14 AM
These middle east countries I think also employ the European pro-style of recruitment wherein as early as 16 years old, pag puede ka na sa pros, the pro clubs will get your services. I dunno kung papaano ang pag-aaral ng bata nyan sa ganyang case kaya batak na batak ang laro ng mga youth teams ng Europe and middle east. These kids are damn tall and quite athletic at that stage.

Schortsanitis
03-09-2008, 08:45 AM
^^^
I suspect, that unlike here, their college tournaments there are not as popular, hence the focus more are on the commercial ballclubs, & on FIBA-organized tournaments.

Same thing w/ China. Yao Ming was already playing for a commercial ballclub as a teenager.

Joescoundrel
03-09-2008, 11:09 AM
^ And this is where support and funding come in. I believe the SBP is on the right track by providing support not only on the basketball front but also for 4-year college scholarships for our Youth Teamers. This removes the worry of their families that just because they cannot play varsity ball that they will have to forego a college education. I would also love to see the PBA ballclubs take more of an interest as Shortsanaitis has noted in the case of Europe and the other Asian countries. If PBA clubs make the commitment to also invest in the basketball futures of our young people then our program stands a better chance of succeeding for the long term.

Schortsanitis
03-09-2008, 08:30 PM
Pharex vs. Nokia-RP

** The game was relatively close at the end of the 1st Quarter, w/ Pharex having only a 10 pt. lead 26-16.* However, when Pharex started going to their full court press sometime in the 2nd quarter, that's when they started padding their lead, stretching it to 18 pts. at the half, 55-37.* From thereon they just kept pressing, & stretching their lead the rest of game, leading by as much as 40+ pts. before settling for a 33-pt. win, 106-73.

** I felt the reason the Nokia RP-Youth team broke down against the full court press was simply because of lack of mental toughness.* The Youth team players GET INTIMIDATED by bigger PBL player's more physical defense, who're used to that kind of play.* You could almost see the fear in the Youth player's eyes when the opposing teams start pressing them closely & bodying them up on defense.* They start missing gimme shots, making turnover after turnover, etc.* Mental toughness usually comes w/ maturity, so these guys need to mature real fast if they are going to be competitive against the taller, bigger, & more experienced Youth teams from other Asian countries out there.

** Franz tried everything:* He called timeout after timeout, he changed point guards from Garcia to Terso to Tolentino.* He even experimented w/ Mark Mendoza & Samuel Marata at point.* He changed players, trying to find the right combination to break & negate the effect of that press, but to no avail.

** CONDITIONING & STRENGTH training on the Abunassar camp also will perhaps help these players a lot.* Flores, for example, was huffing & puffing only after a few minutes against the press.* In one play, he lost the ball while posting up when his opponent bodied up on him.* Franz frequently changed personnel, I suspect also because of conditioning issues w/ the players.

** The biggest surprise, though, was the wide bodied Frank Golla.* Sure, he ate one or two shot block sandwiches, & had some turnovers, but he also was pounding the boards, & scoring off passes & offensive rebounds.* He looked like a decent big man out there, the best in this team in this game.* There may be hope for this kid after all.

** Tolentino still showed great speed, great passing, but even he succumbed to the pressure of that press.* And he wasn't a factor on offense.* Whatever promise he had, is still a promise at this point.

** Samuel Marata showed flashes of brilliance on offense.* He was about the only player I remember scoring effectively off drive in plays, & even did creditable job at point.* Gabriel Banal also contributed some points for the team w/ his outside shots & some inside plays.

** Overall, I felt there was improvement in that the players were more aggressive than the last time I saw them play.* They were now attacking the paint w/ regularity, & fighting for those rebounds.* In the 4th quarter, they were starting to play thru the press more effectively.* Despite the blowout scores, I feel they are adjusting to the higher level & more physical nature of the game in the PBL.

** As for Pharex, they are a small team which the Youth team can effectively match up in size, both vertically, & horizontally.* However, they played like what we want this Youth team to be:* Effective at pressing, great fastbreat plays, great ball movement & passing plays against a half court defense, & good outside shooting.* This team just did everything right in this game.* I hope they could do more of it against other PBL teams, though.

Scout
03-09-2008, 09:25 PM
great report....

Golla as a decent big man at this point, is spite of a collective bad game.... shows the apparent overlook at ____ ::)

on to the future!!!!! 8)

1979
03-09-2008, 09:33 PM
As far as the tournament progresses it seems that Tolentino, Banal, Golla and Marata are playing very well... whatever school these kids decide decide to play for in College will be fortunate to have them......

UP and Ateneo have the upperhand, as it seems......

Semenelin
03-09-2008, 11:22 PM
As far as the tournament progresses it seems that Tolentino, Banal, Golla and Marata are playing very well... whatever school these kids decide decide to play for in College will be fortunate to have them......

UP and Ateneo have the upperhand, as it seems......

add DLSU in the mix. banal and golla are going there..

glock23
03-12-2008, 12:03 AM
As far as the tournament progresses it seems that Tolentino, Banal, Golla and Marata are playing very well... whatever school these kids decide decide to play for in College will be fortunate to have them......

UP and Ateneo have the upperhand, as it seems......

add DLSU in the mix. banal and golla are going there..


correct! and so will marata ;)

mighty_lion
03-12-2008, 12:11 AM
Imho Golla is a good prospect for a college team that is looking for a C/PF.

Schortsanitis
03-12-2008, 03:51 PM
10th WABA U18

* The 10th West Asian Basketball Association (WABA) U18 Championships will be held from May 12-16, 2008 in YEMEN. The top 3 (I think) teams from this tournament will be the West Asian representatives in the 20th FIBA-Asia U18 Championships later this year. This would be a good tournament to watch for the RP Youth Team scouts out there.

* 6 teams will be competing from IRAN, IRAQ, JORDAN, LEBANON, SYRIA & YEMEN. IRAN is a heavy favorite to win this tournament after winning the WABA U17 tournament last year. Gifted w/ good height & athleticism, they truly are the rising basketball power in Asia.

* Final Standings of last year's 2007 WABA U17 tournament:
1 - Iran (Gold)
2 - Syria (Silver)
3 - Lebanon (Bronze)
4 - Jordan
5 - Yemen
6 - Iraq

* Info taken from the interbasket forums

onggok
03-16-2008, 03:25 AM
I read an article from Philippines star and they mentioned in the artiicle that they added two tall kid from Pampanga
(6'5 and 6'6) this is a good news from the RP youth team and they impressed Pumaren.

gameface_one
03-16-2008, 08:28 AM
Two tall cagers join RP youth

Sunday, March 16, 2008
Philstar.com


Coach Franz Pumaren has added two new finds in the Nokia RP Youth training pool from where he’ll get his team for the 2008 SEABA youth championship in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia in May.

The new additions are 6-foot-5 Ian Paul Mendoza Sangalang and 6-foot-6 John Dexter Elfante Maiquez both from Lubao, Pampanga.

Pumaren advised the BAP-Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas leadership of his new recruits before leaving for the United States Friday.

If the SBP can expedite the necessary arrangements, Sangalang and Maiquez would be able to join the pool in its two-week training in Carson City, California.

Members of the pool were to follow Pumaren in the US yesterday. Sangalang and Maiquez are committed to play for Far Eastern U. They’re offered to youth team by SBP regional director Gil Cortez.

“The two players impressed coach Franz and they’re now part of the youth pool. My initial analysis is that the team needs a good shooter, too,” said SBP executive director Patrick Gregorio.

The youth team has gained some exposure in the ongoing PBL Lipovitan Amino Sports Cup. – Nelson Beltran

thadzonline
03-16-2008, 09:48 AM
there are 2 giants from Pilgrim Christian College(high school) also worth taking a look at 6'5 johnPaul Erram and 6'5 siarot(forgot the first name)

Semenelin
03-16-2008, 11:24 AM
there are 2 giants from Pilgrim Christian College(high school) also worth taking a look at 6'5 johnPaul Erram and 6'5 siarot(forgot the first name)

paul john siarot http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/cag/2008/01/31/sports/rival.pcc.giants.fail.to.show.up.html

thadzonline
03-16-2008, 11:35 AM
unfortunately they were all born before 1988

stonecold316
03-16-2008, 01:57 PM
Obviously, the RP Youth Team needs additional big men if ever they are entertaining the thought of being competetive in the Asian Basketball circuit. The players have the speed but they will have the hard time getting the ball inside the paint or getting the offensive and defensive rebounds if they don't have biggies to get it.

I was able to watch their game against Bachus and the team got clobbered in the rebounding department. The players also committed so many turn-overs prompting coach Pumaren to shuffle his men repeatedly in hopes of finding the right combination in the court.

Anyway, the RP Youth team players are very talented. Medyo raw nga lang so kailangan pa ng maraming practices.

stonecold316

stonecold316
03-16-2008, 02:02 PM
Obviously, the RP Youth Team needs additional big men if ever they are entertaining the thought of being competetive in the Asian Basketball circuit. The players have the speed but they will have the hard time getting the ball inside the paint or getting the offensive and defensive rebounds if they don't have biggies to get it.

I was able to watch their game against Bachus and the team got clobbered in the rebounding department. The players also committed so many turn-overs prompting coach Pumaren to shuffle his men repeatedly in hopes of finding the right combination in the court.

Anyway, the RP Youth team players are very talented. Medyo raw nga lang so kailangan pa ng maraming practices.

stonecold316

Schortsanitis
03-19-2008, 08:44 AM
Here's a great website for the current, 2008 RP Youth Team:

http://rpyouth.com/component/option,com_frontpage/Itemid,1/

stonecold316
03-19-2008, 06:59 PM
Here's a great website for the current, 2008 RP Youth Team:

http://rpyouth.com/component/option,com_frontpage/Itemid,1/


Mabuti naman at may website na sila. Thanks for the info sir.

stonecold316

stonecold316
03-21-2008, 04:30 PM
Nokia-RP Youth Team: Working and Progressing
by JP Abcede
(March 20, 2008)

The country's national basketball program is back on Track – hopefully.

After the Harbour Centre-backed RP Team won the gold medal in the recent SEA Games, it is now the Nokia-Pilipinas Youth Team's turn to try and reclaim more of our lost ground in international basketball.

With the squad formed just at the start of the year, coach Franz Pumaren is tasked of duplicating his success in the UAAP on a much bigger stage and a worthy cause — the country's return to hoops glory. And with the help of the PBL, the RP Youth Team is getting valuable exposure as a guest squad in the ongoing 2008 PBL Lipovitan Amino Sports Cup.

"Right now, we are trying to accomplish to be in shape and gel as a team," shared Pumaren. "I am using all 16 players to see who is capable of playing. Parang tryout na rin ito (for the final 12 slots)."

They dropped their first four games in the PBL but Pumaren is taking it in different perspective. Losing by big margins was understandable. Due to their height disadvantage and little experience, they proved to be an easy prey. Among the areas they have to improve are their free throw shooting and even outside shooting. Their guards are also erratic – perhaps the result of being inexperienced.

"We need all the exposure we can get," the veteran mentor stated, citing lack of experience as one of the things his wards need to work on. Pumaren hopes their two-week trip to Carson, California will yield good result. They left last week. They will return on April 3, just in time for the second round of the eliminations to face the four other PBL teams.

"We are still working on it," Pumaren referring to the chemistry of the roster. "We have 16 guys coming from different schools."

So far, there are no objections coming from the cagers' respective alma maters with regards to them playing for the flag. Known for his system that has won countless championships, Pumaren would need to adjust with whatever pieces he is provided with. "It depends on the materials," he pointed out.

Pumaren is more than thankful for the support given by Nokia and the SBP-BAP. Here’s to hoping that the collective hard work of everyone bears fruit during the SEABA tournament in May and the Asian Youth in August.

Schortsanitis
03-24-2008, 09:15 AM
Here's a partial list of the 2008 RP Youth Team, courtesy of "bolabasket" from the Interbasket forums & the RP Youth Team website (list is incomplete, though, as the 2 late additions were not included):

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x287/GearX_2007/another/ILIGAN/rpyouthcopy.gif

Ghostrider
04-03-2008, 09:55 AM
http://sports.inquirer.net/inquirersports/inquirersports/view/20080403-128058/2-Fil-Am-reinforcements-for-National-Youth-five-due


2 Fil-Am reinforcements for National Youth five due
By Jasmine W. Payo
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 04:30:00 04/03/2008


MANILA, Philippines—Two foreign high school players with Filipino roots will beef up the Nokia Philippine Youth Team set to compete in the Southeast Asian Basketball Association (Seaba) youth tournament in Kuala Lumpur on May 1.

Canada’s Norbert Torres and Kyle Pascual of California have been tapped to join the under-18 squad after impressive performances during tryouts in the United States.

The two recruits are expected to arrive in Manila soon, team officials told the Philippine Daily Inquirer recently.

Torres is a versatile 6-foot-6 big man who averages five blocks a game for the Mother Teresa High School in Ontario, while Pascual is a brawny 6-foot-5 forward playing for Esperanza High School in Anaheim.

Mentored by De La Salle University’s multi-titled coach Franz Pumaren, the youth team will arrive Thursday after a two-week training at the renowned Joe Abunassar Impact Basketball in Carson City, California.

. . . . .


Wonder who this Norbert Torres is?*

Kyle Pascual is the real deal and is a potential US D1 player.* He has been doing well in the US all star and summer league circuits and I would be surprised if he ends up matriculating here in the Philippines.

The_Big_Cat
04-03-2008, 10:51 AM
Kyle Pascual was expected to be added even before the team left for the US. SBP was impressed with this kid, who plays the shooting forward position at 6'5" tall. Good additions to our youth team.

thadzonline
04-03-2008, 04:49 PM
great, team now becomes bigger

onggok
04-04-2008, 03:51 PM
What happen to the lubao kids? kasi kung isasama mo sila, the RP youth Team will have 5 tall players and it is good
for RP youth team. Sana pagsamahin silang lahat and ready them for 2012 Olympics with the addition of Aguilar and Fajardo. Kulang na lang wingmen,shooting guard and pg.

Semenelin
04-04-2008, 06:12 PM
^dilinger, castro, norwood, menor, mercado, tang, dela pena, marcy, borboran, mirza, hayes, jazul, and a lot more. ;D

bops
04-06-2008, 01:07 PM
Burger King vs. Nokia RP Youth Team

* Burger King defeated the Nokia-RP Youth team by 22 pts., 83-61. 20 + point losses generally aren't good, except that I thought the beating would be worst. But it wasn't. The older, more seasoned Burger Kings never led by more than 23 or 25 pts. in the game, & at the half they led by only 15 pts., 49-34. Not bad for a bunch of High School kids playing their first game against players who are as much as more than a decade older than them.

* Its obvious though that the team still needs a lot of work:
- Some players in the court at one time had trouble moving the ball around when the defense pressed them closely;
- They had trouble setting up their offense during a full court press (though they didn't seem to turnover the ball that much);
- And when they tried to press Marcy Arellano on the sides at half court, most of the time Marcy was able to just dribble thru it & making them pay for it by scoring quickly
- The Youth players were missing a lot of open shots, they just couldn't seem to buy a basket at times
- The shots they made were either outside shots, or drive in plays. Almost no inside presence whatsoever

* I was expecting to see a cat-quick, high-leaping player in Papot Paredes, but instead, I saw something a bit less:
- He's definitely not 6'7", as the 6'7" Lawrence Bonus had a visible height advantage over him; He looked a bit shorter than the 6'6" Jason Ballesteros, so that would make him only around 6'5" at best
- He's quite thin, & standing beside a hulking Barcellano, he looked FRIGHTENINGLY thin. It was like watching the no. "10"
- I didn't see any exceptional quickness in Paredes, & his leaping ability was not exceptional, though I did see him block a shot or two
- He made 3 perimeter shots, 2 of them from the 3-pt. area. He definitely seems to have a great touch from the perimeter
- At this point in his career, I'd compare him more like a Paul Sanga / Robert Kave / Hans Thiele type of player, a tall, outside shooting big man, w/ very little or no post game on offense. I think it will take some time to bring him to the level of those guys. W/ that lean frame, he doesn't look like he's built for frolicking in the paint, anyway.
- Just his luck, though, as he ended up w/ what seemed like an ankle injury midway into the 4th quarter. He will likely miss some games, further worsening this team's frontcourt problems.

* Among the players, the ones that impressed me most were the Point Guards Terso & Tolentino. Tolentino played without the fear & tentativeness of most of the other players, bringing down the ball quickly, & w/ a lot of authority. He also made 1 or 2 difficult layups, & even making a no-look assist pass. Terso also brought down the ball quickly despite pressure from the other PG, made a couple of good passes & therefore distributed the ball around well against the half court defenses. Which was why I was wondering Franz would give more minutes to Garcia at Point, when he obviously didn't seem to have made as much impact as good as those 2 other Point Guards.

* The biggest worry w/ this Youth team, though, is the lack of effective big men who could clog the lanes & get those rebounds. Despite getting blocked a couple of times, the Burger Kings were able to effectively attack the paint w/ penetrations & passing plays, & had overwhelming control of the boards on both ends of the court. Golla is wider than Paredes, but obviously still learning, as is this team's other big men.

* There were flashes of promise, though. Teng & Marata made some flashy, difficult layups inside the paint; That bald Mendoza seems to have good spring in his leges, mixing it up inside the paint on one play effectively. Manguera seems to have shot well from the perimeter. As they settle down & play more games against PBL teams, I think we'll be able to see which players will be able to bring their game up to the next level.

* I wonder though, if players like Ryan Buenafe, or Nico Salva would've made an impact right away w/ this team. They could also most certainly use guys like Junmar Fajardo (if he's still eligible) & Niko Monachini in the frontcourt.
Niko has committed to play for Yuba College for his first year of Post Secondary.

He is unable to participate in this year's RP Youth Team because of academics. His school will not allow him to be out for so long as he is graduating from high school in June and will have to write the Provincial subject exams to be able to complete all his units.

gameface_one
04-12-2008, 11:48 AM
Two tall Fil-fors reinforce RP youth
By Nelson Beltran
Saturday, April 12, 2008
philstar.com

Two foreign-based Filipino young behemoths are now sure of beefing up the Nokia RP Youth team in the coming SEABA 18-under championship in Kuala Lumpur with both already securing Philippine passport.

Six-foot-7 Norbert Torres, who obtained his Philippine passport in Toronto, Canada, is arriving today. His parents are from Calumpit, Bulacan, both still Filipino citizens though based in Canada.

Six-foot-six Kyle Pascual, meanwhile, is planing in on April 20 from Los Angeles, California. His father is from Singalong, Manila and his mother from Cebu.

Coach Franz Pumaren met the two players when the RP pool underwent a two-week training in a basketball camp in Carson City, California.

“With the new guys, the complexion of the team improved tremendously. What we lacked before was ceiling. With their entry, I can be flexible. I can play big and I can play small,” said Pumaren.

“One thing nice is that they’ve practiced with us in the US. They can play five (center) or four (power forward). We played with Kyle’s team and he scored 27 points,” Pumaren said.

With the entry of Torres and Pascual, the national pool now has 19 members. Pumaren said he would name the 15 players he’ll bring to Kuala Lumpur by April 26 and the final 12 a day before the tourney.

“With our training in the US and the addition of the two guys, the team now sports a new look. I can say we’ve improved a lot,” Pumaren said.

Other players in the pool are Frank Golla Jr., Jed Manguera, Mark Lopez, Joseph Tolentino, Samuel Joseph Marata, Ryan Roose Garcia, Jover Mendoza, Joseph Terso, Mark Joel de Guzman, Jerome Ramos, Jeric Allen Teng, Gabriel Banal, Jaypee Mendoza, Jhon Sumido, Jairod Flores and Philip Paredes.

“All these players are potential materials for our men’s team,” said Pumaren.

stonecold316
04-18-2008, 06:20 PM
Mabuti naman at nadagdagan ng malalaki ang team. I'm sure they will be more competitive this time around.

stonecold316

marmand
04-18-2008, 06:44 PM
They should concentrate on their shooting. ( perimeter and 3pt shot ) Look at other Asian countries like Korea, Japan and even China, they might have the height but 60% or more of their offense is from the perimeter and beyond. The boys may not be blessed when it comes to height and built but speed and shooting can balance things to make the field even. Filipinos would have been great if we focus on soccer ( football ) but the interest is not there so why not use our GOD given speed ( I believe Filipinos are fast in nature- running ;D ) in a sport that we are so interested in.

nastrans
04-19-2008, 08:47 PM
they lost to Noosa Shoes early 83-76 but I guess the Shoe Stars just played for nothing in the fourth quarter since the win is in the books anyway.

But here are some notable stats:

Norbert Torres 17 points, nine rebounds, three steals, three blocks
Joel de Guzman 14 points, three rebounds, two assists, 6-for-12 fg shooting

Kalaban nila Letran sa Nike Summer League tomorrow at 1pm.

Schortsanitis
04-19-2008, 10:59 PM
Kalaban nila Letran sa Nike Summer League tomorrow at 1pm.


Where will the venue be?

marmand
04-19-2008, 11:05 PM
Kalaban nila Letran sa Nike Summer League tomorrow at 1pm.


Where will the venue be?



Kung Nike Summer League then FEU gym.

Schortsanitis
04-20-2008, 09:33 AM
^^^
Okay, thanks.

nastrans
04-20-2008, 03:21 PM
Letran won over RP Youth 67-53 early this afternoon.

ilovedhay
04-20-2008, 05:04 PM
who top scorers on the game. RP Team should polished more depense and offense. Same time were undersized compared to Iran, China and Korea.

nastrans
04-20-2008, 07:11 PM
Some key stats from early this afternoon

Gabriel Banal 11 points, two rebounds
Mark de Guzman 10 points, two rebounds, three assists, two steals
Norbert Torres three points, 13 rebounds
RP Youth shot 3/19 from the three-point range

CM_Punk
04-24-2008, 08:53 AM
http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Sports&p=49&type=2&sec=30&aid=2008042399

Tall, versatile Youth 5 bound for SEABA

By Nelson Beltran
Thursday, April 24, 2008

Coach Franz Pumaren believes he has formed a formidable team with height, quickness and offensive clout from the 15 players he has picked to go to Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia for the SEABA junior men’s championship slated May 1-6.

Pumaren has finalized the roster of players competing in the Asian Youth Championship regional qualifier.

Making up the roster are Fil-foreign players Kyle Nicolas Pascual and Norberto Bryan Torres, new recruit Ian Paul Sangalang and pool members Ryan Roose Garcia, Jed Manguera, Mark Anthony Lopez, Jaypee Mendoza, Samuel Joseph Marata, Frank Golla Jr., Mark Joel de Guzman, Joseph Emmanuel Tolentino, Gabriel Banal, Joseph Terso, Mark Joven Mendoza and Philip Paredes.

Dropped from the list were Jeric Allen Teng, Jerome Ramos, Jhon Sumido and Jairold Flores.

Pumaren said he’ll name his final 12 most probably on the eve of the opening of the five-day competition where they’re up against host Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia and Thailand.

The Nokia RP Youth team leaves the country Sunday.

Pascual, Torres and Sangalang were the latest addition to the team, adding depth, heft and ceiling to the squad bankrolled by Tao Corp. and Nokia. All three are standing above 6-foot-5.

Torres is based in Toronto, Canada whose parents are from Calumpit, Bulacan while Pascual is based in California, whose father is from Manila and mother from Cebu.

Sangalang is from Pampanga brought in by SBP regional director Gil Cortez. He came in a little late, and failed to join the team’s two-week training in the US.

Pumaren said the team has become more flexible on the entry of Torres, Pascual and Sangalang.

“With their entry, I can be flexible. I can play big and I can play small,” said Pumaren.

The RP boys open their campaign in Kuala Lumpur against the host team on May 1.

nastrans
04-24-2008, 12:47 PM
RP Youth takes on PWU tomorrow in the Nike Summer League.

nastrans
04-25-2008, 01:00 PM
RP Youth toys PWU 87-39.

erichubert
04-25-2008, 01:35 PM
That is a welcoming change for the team, they have been used to being bullied by older and bigger opponents. I think more than anything, that would be good for their morale as a team.

nastrans
04-25-2008, 02:21 PM
RP Youth toys helpless PWU
by Jonas Terrado

Nokia Pilipinas Youth Team posted a win before going into a major international tilt, bombing Philippine Women’s University, 87-39, in the 2008 Nike Summer League seniors’ division at the FEU gym in Manila last April 25.

The junior men’s national team exploded in the second half after a slim first quarter margin and then raced to its biggest lead at 49 points during garbage time to bounce back from an setback last Sunday against Colegio de San Juan de Letran.

After a match tomorrow in the Philippine Basketball League and a pending April 29 affair with National University, RP Youth will fly to Malaysia next week to compete in the SEABA junior men’s championship.

“We just strengthen our philosophy on defense and also make good executions on our offense,” said RP Youth coach Franz Pumaren.

Joseph Marata, Joel Tolentino, and Norbert Torres had 10 points apiece to lead Nokia Pilipinas while Kyle Pascual grabbed eight rebounds.

The youthful RP five made a 16-4 run in seven minutes of the second quarter to make a 20-13 edge into a commanding 36-17 mark on a triple by Marata.

In the third period, the Patriots were held scoreless as RP Youth made a 19-0 blast in a seven-minute stretch for a 61-21 runaway on a Jed Manguera basket with 3:14 left.

Sundy Manlangit had a game-high 15 points to get along with his eight rebounds and two assists to parade PWU, who lost its third in a row.

http://www.nikebasketball.com.ph/nsl2008/news_read.php?id=111&class=daily

mighty_lion
04-25-2008, 10:17 PM
Naglalaro pa ba dito si Paredes? Bakit parang hindi namemention yong name nya?

Schortsanitis
04-26-2008, 08:19 PM
Nokia RP Youth Team vs. San Mig Coffee* 042608

** I was able to watch the RP Youth vs. San Mig Coffee game in the PBL starting from 5 minutes into the 2nd Quarter.* I watched the game, because I wanted to see the new additions, & also to see if there were any improvements w/ the holdovers.

** The first thing I noticed w/ the RP Youth Team, was Norbert Torres, simply because he was the tallest player out there on the court.* He is visibly 2-3" taller than Ford Arao, who is listed as 6'4"-6'5", making Norbert around 6'6"-6'7".* Am willing to bet, though, that he is around 6'7".*

** The 2nd thing that surprised me about Norbert, was his lack of athleticism.* I was expecting a tall & athletic big man, but he was visibly not quick or fast.* Nor is he a good leaper, I saw him got blocked at least thrice in the game.* What he DOES have, is height, heft, heart, & great coordination.* That coordination allowed him to do almost anything w/ the ball out there on the court, whether it is posting down low, or for those drive in plays to the basket.*

** He reminds me of a young Rabeh Al-Husseini:* They are almost the same height, same build, same skill set (i.e., not athletic, but good coordination).* What differentiates Norbert from Rabeh, though, is that Norbert is not afraid to play physical & throw his weight around the paint.* Remember that he is only around 17 years old, & he was banging bodies w/ veterans in their mid-twenties like Joel Solis & Ford Arao, & coming out on top.*

** Kyle Pascual was a big disappointment.* He's not as tall or as hefty as Norbert, & was a non-factor in the paint.* He made a mid-range shot, & that was it.* No rebounds, low post plays, etc.* Also seems to have bad hands, losing the ball twice on his own.*

** Samuel Marata had a good shooting game, making all 4 of his perimeter shots in the game.* Papot Paredes was in Franz's doghouse.* I don't know if he's injured, or maybe Franz is keeping him as a "secret" weapon, or maybe he's just not good enough to be in the rotation.* Golla lost a lot of weight, I almost didn't recognize him, but not much improvement in his game.*

** Sangalang is tall, around 6'5", but reed-thin, so he wasn't a factor in the paint either.* Showed surprising quickness on one play, though, w/ a nice, quick drive to the hoop.* Maybe he can be developed as a 3 in college.

** Aside from Norbert, though, no other Youth player seems to be worthy enough to mention, & that is a problem, because Norbert can't do it all.* He will need solid contributions from his teammates in the Asian-level games.

** San Mig Coffee won by 16 pts., 76-60, courtesy of San Mig's main guns like Joel Solis & Bon-Bon Custodio.* The game was closer than what the final score showed, though, w/ San Mig leading by only 3 pts., 33-30 at the half, & also only by 3 pts. at the end of the 3rd quarter, 52-49.

** I think the creditable performance by the RP Youth Team is because the players seems to have gotten used to the physical play.* They were almost business-like in dealing w/ the physical game, like:* "We'll go about our plays, never mind if we get bumped around".*

** San Mig also didn't do a full-court press a lot in the game, the Youth team's Waterloo before.* San Mig did do a full court press in the last 2 minutes of the game, but when they did, Norbert did a beautiful job anchoring the middle of the press break.* He receives the ball in the middle in the court, & w/ his decent ballhandling dribbled it twice or thrice beyond the midcourt, then passed it off to the wings.* His height allowed him good vision of the court over the opponent who was guarding him.* *

** Another factor is for the team is Norbert Torres.* Suddenly the team has a presence in the paint that can rebound, score, intimidate on defense & anchor the press break.* I think Norbert should just stay in the country, become a UAAP or NCAA star, then coming up w/ a good shot at the PBA later.* That lack of athleticism will give him problems against taller, more athletic players in the US NCAA Div. 1, anyway.*

** I think the team is ready for the SEABA tournament.* The Asian-games level tournament, though, is another matter.

Joescoundrel
04-27-2008, 08:09 PM
Norbert Torres was impressive considering he was playing against veteran college-level big men in Joel Solis, Jerby Del Rosario and Ford Arao. He had a few good moves against these guys inside, showed good footwork, even a nice touch, good follow-through on his freethrows, also battled hard inside and got some tough rebounds against Neil Raneses.

I believe with the right kind of focused coaching he should be at least as good as Don Allado if not better. He needs to develop a counter move as well as go two-handed, favors only his strong hand and one direction on his attacks, has a big body but doesn't seem to know how to keep his center of gravity and gets pushed around by veteran bigs. The kid is listed at 6'7" and 220 pounds at 16 going on 17 years old. If he gets even just one more inch of height and gets leaner and buffer he should be quite the killer in the post.

UAAP junior MVP Joseph Marata had a good shooting day but did not seem to get enough touches or looks when San Mig Coffee was pulling away, a pity since it was his shooting and Torres' scut work inside that was keeping the Youth team in the game until Bon Custodio and Eric Dela Cuesta instigated the breakaway.

Ian Sangalang is athletic, tall and has great length but is thin as the proverbial rail and could not even offer token resistance against the San Mig forwards. Judging by his inward-orientated shoulders it looks like he is never going to get buff and massive even with all the protein whey and weight-training.

D_I_A
04-27-2008, 08:45 PM
Go RP YOUTH TEAM!!! ;)

onggok
04-28-2008, 04:03 AM
What happen to the other Lubao kid (Maiguez) and why only Sangalang is on the Rp team?

gameface_one
04-28-2008, 07:15 AM
RP youth sets out to defend title in SEABA
By Nelson Beltran
Monday, April 28, 2008
Philstar.com


The Nokia RP Youth team leaves via an Air Asia flight from Clark to Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia today, determined to reclaim the SEABA junior men’s championship which the country failed to defend in 2006.

Coach Franz Pumaren is bringing in a 15-man roster which he intends to cut down to final 12 before the managers’ meeting Wednesday.

The hopefuls are Fil-foreign players Kyle Nicolas Pascual and Norberto Bryan Torres and home-grown talents Ian Paul Sangalang, Ryan Roose Garcia, Jed Manguera, Mark Anthony Lopez, Jaypee Mendoza, Samuel Joseph Marata, Frank Golla Jr., Mark Joel de Guzman, Joseph Emmanuel Tolentino, Gabriel Banal, Joseph Terso, Mark Joven Mendoza and Philip Paredes.

Officials follow Pumaren and his boys in Kuala Lumpur Thursday in time for the team’s first game against the host squad.

The Malaysians reigned supreme in 2006 in the absence of the Philippines which was then serving a FIBA suspension.

The RP boys last won the SEABA junior men’s championship in 2004.

Pumaren, a long-time national player during the NCC days in the 80s, believes he has formed a team very capable of reclaiming the crown.

The top two teams in the tourney qualify for the Asian youth championship in Tehran, Iran in September. The other competing countries are Indonesia, Thailand and Singapore.

Semenelin
04-28-2008, 12:02 PM
What happen to the other Lubao kid (Maiguez) and why only Sangalang is on the Rp team?
most likely got cut from the team. i think...

CrossOver
04-29-2008, 11:36 AM
Saan kaya pwedeng mapanood ang laban ng RP Youth Team ???

tamarawz_14
04-29-2008, 08:55 PM
What happen to the other Lubao kid (Maiguez) and why only Sangalang is on the Rp team?


these two players are already locked (including ryan roose garcia) to FEU varsity team probably next year... sayang sana si maiquez nakasama din...

D_I_A
05-01-2008, 12:56 PM
What happen to the other Lubao kid (Maiguez) and why only Sangalang is on the Rp team?


these two players are already locked (including ryan roose garcia) to FEU varsity team probably next year... sayang sana si maiquez nakasama din...


wala bang magko cover na tv station?

The_Big_Cat
05-01-2008, 01:35 PM
^Wala siguro. I don't see any advertisements either on TV, print and internet regarding the coverage. Better watch out for highlights on the primetime news na lang.

gameface_one
05-01-2008, 01:47 PM
RP Youth five debuts vs host Malaysians


By Jasmine W. Payo
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 03:50:00 05/01/2008


MALAYSIA—RP Youth coach Franz Pumaren had talked about his team’s mission countless times. And the multi-titled mentor can only hope that the country’s young and finest hoop talents have picked up his message.

“We’re going into the competition with only one thing in mind, and that is to try to win the gold,” said Pumaren. “I hope we can really perform up to par and deliver what we’re expected to do.”

The Nokia Philippine Youth Team hits the international floor for the first time Thursday night in the Southeast Asian Basketball Association (Seaba) Championship for Junior Men here, with Pumaren believing his players have shaken off their pre-tournament jitters.

“I’d like to think the players are more confident now,” said Pumaren. “It’s one of the things we were looking for during our (tune-up) games the past months.”

Pumaren expects a tough debut for his boys against host and defending champion Malaysia in their 8:30 p.m. tussle at the Malaysia Amateur Basketball Association gym.

The match comes after the inaugural game between Thailand and Indonesia at 6 p.m. and the 30-minute opening ceremony. Singapore sits out the first day of the five-nation tourney.

The young nationals—spearheaded by team captain Frank Golla Jr. and tall Filipino-foreigners Norbert Torres and Kyle Pascual—haven’t seen their first opponents despite practicing in Kuala Lumpur since Monday.

Malaysia is reportedly led by naturalized 6-foot-7 player Alexander Edward, plus a couple of 6-6 cagers.

“We have some idea, but we’re not exactly sure how they play and what’s their strength,” said Pumaren.

Samuel Joseph Marata, Mark Joel de Guzman, Gabriel Banal, Jed Manguera, Ryan Roose Garcia, Ian Sanggalang, Joseph Terso, Jaypee Mendoza, Joseph Tolentino round up the 12-man roster. Reserves are Mark Lopez, Jovet Mendoza and Philip Paredes.

Although the 18-under lineup is a mix of UAAP and NCAA standouts, the squad is mainly pinning its hopes on the 6-7 Torres and 6-6 Pascual, two foreign high school stars with Filipino roots who have been with the team since last month.

“I’m confident of our chances,” said Torres, the 18-year-old recruit averaging five blocks a game for Mother Teresa High School in Toronto.

Scout
05-02-2008, 07:19 AM
RP Youth blasts Malaysia 98-65 after being down at the half 41-45 8)

bigfreeze_bibby
05-02-2008, 09:54 AM
Actually the final score is 98-67 hehe. A big 29-4 run in the 3rd quarter enabled the Filipinos to pull away from the Malaysians.

Box Scores for the RP youth team courtesy of david64 of AP.com: Banal-16, de Guzman-11, Pascual-10, Marata-9, Torres-9, Tolentino-9, Garcia-9, Golla-7, Sangalang-7, Manguera-5, JP Mendoza-4, Terso-2 = 98

GHRanger
05-02-2008, 10:13 AM
From accross the Causeway --

The New Straight Times, Malaysia
Basketball: Malaysia thrashed in opener
By : DEVINDER SINGH
http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Friday/Sport/2229327/Article/index_html

DEFENDING champions Malaysia were outclassed 98-67 by the Philippines in their opening match of the Southeast Asian Junior Men's Basketball Championship at the Maba Stadium in Kuala Lumpur yesterday.

Malaysia held a 47-43 lead at halftime but were blown away in the third quarter as the Philippines embarked on a 18-0 run to break a 49-49 tie.

The Philippines ended the quarter with a 72-51 lead.

Malaysia were unable to reduce the deficit in the fourth quarter as the Philippines cruised through.

"Tiredness crept in which caused my boys to lose concentration. They failed to follow instructions and started playing their individual game which cost us this match," said a displeased Malaysia coach Tan Kok Heng.

RESULTS -- Thailand 82 Indonesia 50; Philippines 98 Malaysia 67.

FIXTURES -- Today: Philippines v Thailand (6pm); Singapore v Malaysia (8.45pm) (Note: all matches at Maba Stadium).

The_Big_Cat
05-02-2008, 10:27 AM
Bravo to our RP YOUTH TEAM!

GHRanger
05-02-2008, 10:36 AM
Actually the final score is 98-67 hehe.* A big 29-4 run in the 3rd quarter enabled the Filipinos to pull away from the Malaysians.

Box Scores for the RP youth team courtesy of david64 of AP.com: Banal-16, de Guzman-11, Pascual-10, Marata-9, Torres-9, Tolentino-9, Garcia-9, Golla-7, Sangalang-7, Manguera-5, JP Mendoza-4, Terso-2 = 98


To add -- the nightmare press was unleashed in the third quarter. i guess they never knew what hit them. :)

The_Big_Cat
05-02-2008, 10:40 AM
To add -- the nightmare press was unleashed in the third quarter. i guess they never knew what hit them. :)

Sa salitang kalye, "Nataranta" at "Nabulabog" sila sa press. ;D
S U R P R I S E !!

erichubert
05-02-2008, 11:48 AM
Based on reports, it seems Thailand would be the tougher opponent for us. They have an American coach in Felton Sealy (who coached their men's team before) and beat Indonesia by 32. If we beat them today, we are virtually the champions.

geo
05-02-2008, 11:50 AM
update on Seabe u18 tournament in malaysia, RPYT 98 - Malaysia 67. The boys beat the hell out of the malaysian. ;D :D

The_Big_Cat
05-02-2008, 11:51 AM
Based on reports, it seems Thailand would be the tougher opponent for us. They have an American coach in Felton Sealy (who coached their men's team before) and beat Indonesia by 32. If we beat them today, we are virtually the champions.

American coach Felton Sealy coached the Malaysian seniors team in the 1998 Bangkok Asian Games. We beat them with our Philippine Centennial Team coached by Tim Cone.

bigfreeze_bibby
05-02-2008, 02:43 PM
I'm not that threatened with Felton Sealy because he has been a regular fixture in the South East Asian basketball scene and we consistently beat his teams namely, Malaysia and Thailand.

Kid Cubao
05-02-2008, 02:49 PM
kapag kumagat yung DLSU press na napabalitang ginamit sa malaysia, mag-ingat-ingat na yung mga kalaban. i'd like to see how the chinese and koreans try to beat it off the dribble ;D

marmand
05-02-2008, 03:01 PM
Good start. Still reserving my expectation until they face stronger opponents.

erichubert
05-02-2008, 04:02 PM
kapag kumagat yung DLSU press na napabalitang ginamit sa malaysia, mag-ingat-ingat na yung mga kalaban. i'd like to see how the chinese and koreans try to beat it off the dribble ;D


The press would work against inferior opponents like Malaysia but against China and Korea, I highly doubt it would create a dent. China's guards are as tall as our centers so they would have a lot of leeway to throw passes when pressed, while the Koreans are known to be good dribbles and very adept passers.

gameface_one
05-02-2008, 08:35 PM
Breaking News: We won against Thailand; 92-76. Tolentino, JP Mendoza, and Torres played well. Details to follow. - from Pato Gregorio.