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mighty_lion
08-03-2008, 12:05 PM
Leading candidates by stats (per ubelt.com) after 1st round.

ROY
1. Jake Pascual - 4.6 ppg / 4.6 rpg / 0.6 apg / 1 bpg / 0.1 spg / 1.3 tpg / 64% FG / 11.9 mpg - Lions
2. Marlon Gomez - 6.0 ppg / 5.7 rpg / 0.7 apg / 0.3 bpg / 0.4 spg / 0.7 tpg / 49% FG / 16.3 mpg - Dolphins
3. Allan Mangahas 9.6 ppg / 3.6 rpg / 2.6 apg / 0 bpg / 1.1 spg / 2.3 tpg / 32% FG / 20 mpg - Cardinals
4. Ray Maconocido - 8.3 ppg / 2.9 rpg / 2.9 apg / 0 bpg / 0.6 spg / 1.7 tpg / / 22 mpg - Stags
5. Nchotu Njie - 2.7 ppg / 4.9 rpg / 1.3 apg / 0.9 bpg / 0.6 spg / 1.1tpg / 50% FG / 12.7 mpg - Bombers
6. Jam Cortez - 3 ppg / 4.3 rpg / 0.4 apg / 0.3 bpg / 0.6 spg / 0.7 tpg / / 9.4 mpg - Knights
7. Chuck Dalanon - 6.7 ppg / 3.3 rpg / 1.9 apg / 0.1 bpg / 1.4 spg / 1.6 tpg / 44% FG / 20 mpg - Blazers
9. Mark Sarrangay - 5.4 ppg / 6.4 rpg / 0.3 apg / 1 bpg / 0.1 spg / 1.1 tpg / 37% FG / 17.7 mpg - Cardinals

I would have rated Allan Mangahas as #1 but his FG% is the lowest of the rookies I enumerated above.

MVP
1. RJ Jazul - 19.0 ppg / 6.0 rpg / 4.4 apg / 0.3 bpg / 3.3 spg / 3.7 tpg / 25.4 mpg - Knights
2. Dino Daa - 16.3 ppg / 10.7 rpg / 2.8 apg / 0.2 bpg / 1.8 spg / 3.7 tpg / 26.5 mpg - Knights
3. Sam Ekwe - 13.9 ppg / 14.6 rpg / 0.6 apg / 2 bpg / 1.3 spg / 3.9 tpg / 44% FG / 31.7 mpg - Lions
4. James Sena 16.4 ppg / 6.7 rpg / 1.9 apg / 0.9 bpg / 0.9 spg / 2.3 tpg / 41% FG / 19.6 mpg - Bombers
5. Pong Escobal 12.0 ppg / 4.7 rpg / 6.0 apg / 0.1 bpg / 0.7 spg / 2.6 tpg / 22% FG / 31.7 mpg - Lions

Here's my vote after 1st Round:
MVP: RJ Jazul
ROY: Jake Pascual
Defensive Player: Sam Ekwe
Mythical Five: Escobal (G), Jazul (G), Daa (F), Sena (F), Ekwe (C)

cub
08-03-2008, 10:45 PM
ML, Daa played only 6 games. so his ppg will go up to 19.

-insane-
08-04-2008, 11:03 AM
ML, Daa played only 6 games. so his ppg will go up to 19.


tama poh yung nasa taas kasi 7pts lang poh yung nagawa nya sa game ng letran vs beda kaya bumaba ung average nya

The_Big_Cat
08-04-2008, 11:16 AM
ML, Daa played only 6 games. so his ppg will go up to 19.

Dino Daa played only 6 games in the first round. He missed the CSB game. His average remains at 16.3 ppg as he scored only 7 points from the San Beda game.

I think when you missed at least one game, you are automatically out of the MVP race. You should play all the 14 games of the double round robin eliminations.

My Mythical 5 (as of the first round):

Escobal, guard
Jazul, guard
Ekwe, center
Sena, forward
Daa, forward

Other consideration for mythical 5:

Neil Pascual, forward
Ogie Menor, forward
Cagoco, guard
Dela Pena, guard

My Most Improved Player is James Sena.
Mapua is this year's host, so they may have an inside track on the ROY, Mangahas.

-insane-
08-04-2008, 03:12 PM
ung stats ni sena last year and ngayon mejo pareho lang pwede pa ba sha mag MIP cguro mas maganda kung sa mga mas malaki yung improvement kesa sa kanya

Get_Blazed
08-09-2008, 10:55 PM
Just wondering, why is Chuck Dalanon ranked much lower in the ROY rankings? His numbers are pretty decent too.

christian
08-09-2008, 10:58 PM
must be the mpg, he is one of the tops in the mpg, my observation lang.

cub
08-09-2008, 10:59 PM
Just wondering, why is Chuck Dalanon ranked much lower in the ROY rankings? His numbers are pretty decent too.


i think ML did that in no particular order.

Get_Blazed
08-10-2008, 12:43 PM
Just wondering, why is Chuck Dalanon ranked much lower in the ROY rankings? His numbers are pretty decent too.


i think ML did that in no particular order.


"I would have rated Allan Mangahas as #1 but his FG% is the lowest of the rookies I enumerated above. "

That means he does rank them in order. I believe Chuck deserves to be at 3rd or 4th by the very least. :)

-insane-
08-12-2008, 07:39 PM
hindi kasi napapansin si chuck

Get_Blazed
08-12-2008, 09:29 PM
hindi kasi napapansin si chuck


Again, Chuck Dalanon scored 17 points in a blow-out loss vs JRU. I think he is and in reality should be atleast top 3. He leads in MPG, Steals, and ranks third in scoring and assists per game. Good bid for ROY.

christian
08-12-2008, 09:50 PM
It would have been a different scenario if only Benilde is winning ;)

Get_Blazed
08-12-2008, 10:02 PM
It would have been a different scenario if only Benilde is winning ;)


The rookie of the year is not the MVP, thus standings should have no bearing. LeBron James' Cavs was in a losing season when he was voted ROY.

Regular Grey
08-12-2008, 10:29 PM
totoo yun pero wala rin namang mga rookies na nabibigyan ng playing times sa mga winning teams sa NBA. Kaya talagang si Lebron ang nanalo

nastrans
08-12-2008, 10:43 PM
The thing is Mangahas has already made a solid impact than Dalanon for the Cardinals and it's also an advantage that Mapua is a solid fifth in the standings.

joelex
08-13-2008, 12:33 AM
is dalanon fresh from HS or is he a transferee? and from what school did he come from? i agree he has game.

Get_Blazed
08-13-2008, 02:23 PM
The thing is Mangahas has already made a solid impact than Dalanon for the Cardinals and it's also an advantage that Mapua is a solid fifth in the standings.


I dont get it, ROY awards are never affected by team standings. ::)

The_Big_Cat
08-13-2008, 03:16 PM
The thing is Mangahas has already made a solid impact than Dalanon for the Cardinals and it's also an advantage that Mapua is a solid fifth in the standings.


I dont get it, ROY awards are never affected by team standings. ::)

You can relate it to last year ROY race between Jonathan Banal (Mapua) and Dave Marcelo (San Beda).
Banal had a slight edge on the numbers but Dave Marcelo played with the better team.

Wala tayong magagawa kung MANCOM ang mag dedesisyon dyan. ;D

Get_Blazed
08-14-2008, 09:11 AM
Wala tayong magagawa kung MANCOM ang mag dedesisyon dyan. ;D


Its just wrong. ::)

nastrans
08-14-2008, 09:53 AM
The thing is Mangahas has already made a solid impact than Dalanon for the Cardinals and it's also an advantage that Mapua is a solid fifth in the standings.


I dont get it, ROY awards are never affected by team standings. ::)


In a bit yes, as much as Dalanon is doing well, hindi ganun nararamdaman ang impact niya as compared to Mangahas na kahit papano nakakacontribute siya even with a KDLP and Banal in the lineup.



You can relate it to last year ROY race between Jonathan Banal (Mapua) and Dave Marcelo (San Beda).
Banal had a slight edge on the numbers but Dave Marcelo played with the better team.

Wala tayong magagawa kung MANCOM ang mag dedesisyon dyan. ;D


As for this, Banal should have won the ROY plum, e halos hindi nga sinunog si Marcelo last season eh.

The_Big_Cat
08-14-2008, 10:01 AM
Jason Ballesteros of San Sebastian is making a strong bid for his second consecutive Defensive Player of the Year award.

nicksy
08-14-2008, 10:55 AM
The thing is Mangahas has already made a solid impact than Dalanon for the Cardinals and it's also an advantage that Mapua is a solid fifth in the standings.


I dont get it, ROY awards are never affected by team standings. ::)

You can relate it to last year ROY race between Jonathan Banal (Mapua) and Dave Marcelo (San Beda).
Banal had a slight edge on the numbers but Dave Marcelo played with the better team.

Wala tayong magagawa kung MANCOM ang mag dedesisyon dyan. ;D



Actually Marcelo has a better number than Banal Last year with a lesser minute per game (the S83 1st rd game between San Beda and Mapua w/o Ekwe is the barometer when marcelo has a huge game), the standings did not really affect who will won the individual award.

Stat line from season 83:
Dave Marcelo
GP Minutes Points Rebounds Assists Blocks Steals Turnovers Fouls
Regular Season 10 13 4 4.8 0.3 1.3 0.1 0.9 2.5
efficiency rating in the elimination rd. : 7.8

Jonathan Banal

Regular Season 12 28.4 9.7 1.8 3.2 0 0.8 2.3 2
efficiency rating in the elimination rd. : 7.08

Efficiency rating
((Score + Rebounds + Assists + Steals + Blocks) - (FGA - FGM + FTA - FTM + Turnovers)) / GamesPlayed

spiep
08-14-2008, 10:27 PM
The thing is Mangahas has already made a solid impact than Dalanon for the Cardinals and it's also an advantage that Mapua is a solid fifth in the standings.


I dont get it, ROY awards are never affected by team standings. ::)

You can relate it to last year ROY race between Jonathan Banal (Mapua) and Dave Marcelo (San Beda).
Banal had a slight edge on the numbers but Dave Marcelo played with the better team.

Wala tayong magagawa kung MANCOM ang mag dedesisyon dyan. ;D



Actually Marcelo has a better number than Banal Last year with a lesser minute per game (the S83 1st rd game between* *San Beda and Mapua w/o Ekwe is the barometer when marcelo has a huge game), the standings did not really affect who will won the individual award.

Stat line from season 83:
Dave Marcelo
* * * * * * * * * * * GP* *Minutes* Points* Rebounds* Assists* Blocks* *Steals* Turnovers* *Fouls
Regular Season 10 * * *13 * 4 * * * *4.8 * * * 0.3 * * *1.3 * * * *0.1 * * * 0.9 * * *2.5
efficiency rating in the elimination rd. : 7.8

Jonathan Banal

Regular Season 12 * *28.4 * 9.7 * *1.8 * * * * 3.2 * * *0 * * * *0.8 * * * 2.3 * * * 2
efficiency rating in the elimination rd. : 7.08

Efficiency rating
((Score + Rebounds + Assists + Steals + Blocks) - (FGA - FGM + FTA - FTM + Turnovers)) / GamesPlayed




So that you will know the real reason...THERE IS ALSO THE BONUS POINTS EARNED ON WON GAMES.Clearly that gave the overwhelming advantage in favor of Dave "the FRO" Marcelo.

Bow.

Get_Blazed
08-14-2008, 11:10 PM
So that you will know the real reason...THERE IS ALSO THE BONUS POINTS EARNED ON WON GAMES.Clearly that gave the overwhelming advantage in favor of Dave "the FRO" Marcelo.

Bow.


You know everything, dont you? Then I guess you dont mind me asking the on earth do you know this? An insider of the NCAA, perhaps? Guess not. ::)

Get_Blazed
08-14-2008, 11:12 PM
Actually Marcelo has a better number than Banal Last year with a lesser minute per game (the S83 1st rd game between San Beda and Mapua w/o Ekwe is the barometer when marcelo has a huge game), the standings did not really affect who will won the individual award.

Stat line from season 83:
Dave Marcelo
GP Minutes Points Rebounds Assists Blocks Steals Turnovers Fouls
Regular Season 10 13 4 4.8 0.3 1.3 0.1 0.9 2.5
efficiency rating in the elimination rd. : 7.8

Jonathan Banal

Regular Season 12 28.4 9.7 1.8 3.2 0 0.8 2.3 2
efficiency rating in the elimination rd. : 7.08

Efficiency rating
((Score + Rebounds + Assists + Steals + Blocks) - (FGA - FGM + FTA - FTM + Turnovers)) / GamesPlayed




So do you think our rookie warrior has a fight for the ROY plum?

chba_dude
08-15-2008, 12:58 AM
Efficiency rating, PAV (Player something value) dictates the NCAA awards. I don't think there are any won game bonus stats. All Marcelo needed was one near triple double game to win the ROY. IMO, medyo unfair to Jonathan Banal because he was a more consistent contributor to his team all of last season.

Ubelt.com used to post this on their site. Pero wala na now.

So there. Mighty_lion's list is his personal list. Let's respect his opinion.

Dalanon should be a solid bet as ROY.

Howard the Duck
08-15-2008, 02:04 AM
madali lang i-compute ang PER. (pts+rebs+assts+blks+stls)-(fouls+turnovers)

The_Big_Cat
08-15-2008, 08:13 AM
Efficiency rating, PAV (Player something value) dictates the NCAA awards. I don't think there are any won game bonus stats. All Marcelo needed was one near triple double game to win the ROY. IMO, medyo unfair to Jonathan Banal because he was a more consistent contributor to his team all of last season.

Ubelt.com used to post this on their site. Pero wala na now.

So there. Mighty_lion's list is his personal list. Let's respect his opinion.

Dalanon should be a solid bet as ROY.

Player's All-around Value (P.A.V.).

christian
08-15-2008, 11:00 AM
Efficiency rating, PAV (Player something value) dictates the NCAA awards. I don't think there are any won game bonus stats. All Marcelo needed was one near triple double game to win the ROY. IMO, medyo unfair to Jonathan Banal because he was a more consistent contributor to his team all of last season.



And he did that versus MIT (2nd, Sam was suspended for kicking Kim Samsoon of UPHSD) 7 blocks.

Get_Blazed
08-15-2008, 11:52 AM
And he did that versus MIT (2nd, Sam was suspended for kicking Kim Samsoon of UPHSD) 7 blocks.


Dont you think this is a bit disrespectful and racist towards our Korean brothers? He's Sang Myeon Lee.

Anyway, I believe Dalanon or Mangahas should be the ROY this far in the tournament. Any updated rookie stat comparison?

nicksy
08-15-2008, 11:56 AM
And he did that versus MIT (2nd, Sam was suspended for kicking Kim Samsoon of UPHSD) 7 blocks.


Dont you think this is a bit disrespectful and racist towards our Korean brothers? He's Sang Myeon Lee.

Anyway, I believe Dalanon or Mangahas should be the ROY this far in the tournament. Any updated rookie stat comparison?

if the same criteria will be used to define the awardee, Mangahas will have some trouble in getting the ROY, because of his poor FG %.




So do you think our rookie warrior has a fight for the ROY plum?


I'll try to make may own stat line for this year's Rookies based on the Efficiency format.

The_Big_Cat
08-15-2008, 12:25 PM
My vote for the ROY would either be Mangahas (MIT) or Pascual (SBC).

Sana magbigay din ang NCAA ng: Most Improved Player and 6th Man of the Year.

nicksy
08-15-2008, 01:07 PM
Name Efficiency rating MPG

Jake Pascual 9.625 15.2
Allan Mangahas 6.375 21.1
Chuck Dolanon 9.667 20.9
Marlon Gomez 9.444 18.1

these are my own calculation base on their stats, stats from Ubelt.com
Unfortunately some players don't have a complete record, and some I did not any more bother to calculate

Allan Mangahas has a lower Rating because of missed shots.

efficiency rating=
((Score + Rebounds + Assists + Steals + Blocks) - (FGA - FGM + FTA - FTM + Turnovers)) / GamesPlayed

any questions or suggestions, just PM me.

christian
08-15-2008, 01:18 PM
And he did that versus MIT (2nd, Sam was suspended for kicking Kim Samsoon of UPHSD) 7 blocks.


Dont you think this is a bit disrespectful and racist towards our Korean brothers? He's Sang Myeon Lee.

Anyway, I believe Dalanon or Mangahas should be the ROY this far in the tournament. Any updated rookie stat comparison?


Nope. I would have respected him, if he only played it clean ;)

Dalanon? ano ba background nya?

christian
08-15-2008, 01:21 PM
Jake Pascual
Chuck Dalanon/Marlon Gomez
Allan Mangahas

Get_Blazed
08-15-2008, 02:02 PM
Of course, we all have our biases.

But based on sir nicksy's calculations, Dalanon appears to be on top. ;)

Get_Blazed
08-15-2008, 02:04 PM
Nope. I would have respected him, if he only played it clean* ;)

Dalanon? ano ba background nya?


Still, racists remarks are unacceptable.

As of now, I am not aware of Dalanon's background. I'll update everyone once I get the juice though.

chba_dude
08-15-2008, 02:35 PM
Nope. I would have respected him, if he only played it clean* ;)

Dalanon? ano ba background nya?


Still, racists remarks are unacceptable.

As of now, I am not aware of Dalanon's background. I'll update everyone once I get the juice though.


I have to confirm this but Dalanon is a transferee from FEU. Volleyball ata dapat sa FEU.

Confirm it na lang Get_Blazed.

Tama TBC, Player's All-Around Value nga.

Regular Grey
08-16-2008, 12:00 AM
Nope. I would have respected him, if he only played it clean ;)

Dalanon? ano ba background nya?


Still, racists remarks are unacceptable.

As of now, I am not aware of Dalanon's background. I'll update everyone once I get the juice though.


Proud na proud ka kay Dalanon? May Relasyon ba kayo?

KingRedLion
08-16-2008, 01:09 PM
Dalanon's got game yes no doubt about that.

His contributions are only felt because he's the only one playing well & arguably, all out - a lone warrior.

Does this matter in him getting the ROY award? I don't know but I think it should not be per se. But if part of the criteria or consideration is the impact how his team has performed in spite of his efforts, then I think he won't get it.

Does he deserve it? Yes. & so do all the other ROY award front-runners as well.

¡ánimo San Beda!

Get_Blazed
08-16-2008, 08:20 PM
Proud na proud ka kay Dalanon? May Relasyon ba kayo?


I refuse to scoot down to your level. After all, this is not PEX. ::)

Get_Blazed
08-16-2008, 08:27 PM
Dalanon's got game yes no doubt about that.

His contributions are only felt because he's the only one playing well & arguably, all out - a lone warrior.

Does this matter in him getting the ROY award? I don't know but I think it should not be per se. But if part of the criteria or consideration is the impact how his team has performed in spite of his efforts, then I think he won't get it.

Does he deserve it? Yes. & so do all the other ROY award front-runners as well.

¡ánimo San Beda!


This is the ROY award were talking about, not MVP. It doesnt matter if his contributions equate to won games but as long as he shows great numbers every game, he is above the others. His no fear, die-hard, attitude wowed many. And his numbers speak for him(after all, this is the lone criteria that really matters).

KingRedLion
08-17-2008, 03:43 AM
Dalanon's got game yes no doubt about that.

His contributions are only felt because he's the only one playing well & arguably, all out - a lone warrior.

Does this matter in him getting the ROY award? I don't know but I think it should not be per se. But if part of the criteria or consideration is the impact how his team has performed in spite of his efforts, then I think he won't get it.

Does he deserve it? Yes. & so do all the other ROY award front-runners as well.

¡ánimo San Beda!


This is the ROY award were talking about, not MVP. It doesnt matter if his contributions equate to won games but as long as he shows great numbers every game, he is above the others. His no fear, die-hard, attitude wowed many. And his numbers speak for him(after all, this is the lone criteria that really matters).


Ok. Chuck Dalanon for ROY it is! ;)

How about Jacob Manlapaz for MVP then? :P

christian
08-17-2008, 11:51 AM
Hahaha mga loko kayo.

Get_Blazed, have you seen Dalanon's mpg as compared to the other rookies? Pascual plays the least minutes, whlie Mangahas plays the most. But i wouldn't be surprised if Gomez gets it. This boy is all play and hustle., he may not look good in the court but at least he gets his share (i would have said getsit done, kaya lang yung record nila...) I'm betting he will get a lot of look from other teams/leagues, after PCU leaves this season.

Kim Samsoon if i'm not mistaken is part of the coaching staff of UPHSD ;)

christian
08-17-2008, 11:55 AM
Nope. I would have respected him, if he only played it clean ;)

Dalanon? ano ba background nya?


Still, racists remarks are unacceptable.

As of now, I am not aware of Dalanon's background. I'll update everyone once I get the juice though.


Hahaha! Now, what was your first impression on Samuel Ekwe? How about when you saw him play? And when he won ROY-MYP 2006? Now, be honest... ;D

The_Big_Cat
08-17-2008, 12:53 PM
NJEI of JRU is doing great coming off the bench for the Heavy Bombers.
Since his team has the most wins as of today, I believe he has earned a lot of points as well in his PAV.

Get_Blazed
08-18-2008, 01:58 PM
Nope. I would have respected him, if he only played it clean ;)

Dalanon? ano ba background nya?


Still, racists remarks are unacceptable.

As of now, I am not aware of Dalanon's background. I'll update everyone once I get the juice though.


Hahaha! Now, what was your first impression on Samuel Ekwe? How about when you saw him play? And when he won ROY-MYP 2006? Now, be honest... ;D


As far as racist marks towards Ekwe are concerned, Im clean. Have you ever heard about me making any?

christian
08-18-2008, 10:36 PM
Nope. I would have respected him, if he only played it clean ;)

Dalanon? ano ba background nya?


Still, racists remarks are unacceptable.

As of now, I am not aware of Dalanon's background. I'll update everyone once I get the juice though.


Hahaha! Now, what was your first impression on Samuel Ekwe? How about when you saw him play? And when he won ROY-MYP 2006? Now, be honest... ;D


As far as racist marks towards Ekwe are concerned, Im clean. Have you ever heard about me making any?


Ok, that's why i said be honest :D

chba_dude
08-19-2008, 11:39 AM
Let's play nice co-ncaa boys. :)

christian
08-19-2008, 04:52 PM
Copy sir chba_dude! ;)

Get_Blazed
08-19-2008, 06:02 PM
Ok, that's why i said be honest :D


I am honest. I didnt. Im clean.

-insane-
08-26-2008, 03:27 PM
okok just watch SBC vs CSB tomorrow

Get_Blazed
08-26-2008, 03:33 PM
okok just watch SBC vs CSB tomorrow


What does this have to do with the topic of the thread? OT ka pare. ::)
And I would not be able to, since finals namin. Maybe just the replay.

christian
08-27-2008, 11:19 AM
okok just watch SBC vs CSB tomorrow


What does this have to do with the topic of the thread? OT ka pare. ::)
And I would not be able to, since finals namin. Maybe just the replay.


Sayang dude.

-insane-
08-27-2008, 12:52 PM
alam na naman kung sino mananalo eh

Get_Blazed
08-27-2008, 02:40 PM
alam na naman kung sino mananalo eh


Haha there you guys go again. Remember assuring a sweep? *Further comment deleted*

The_Big_Cat
08-27-2008, 06:13 PM
Ogie Menor's resurgence in the 2nd round with an incredible 35 point game against CSB now allows him the opportunity to barge into the mythical 5 this season at the shooting forward spot.

This is the first time that Ogie Menor scored 23 plus points since the 2007 NCAA Finals where he scored 23 and 25 points respectively.

KingRedLion
08-27-2008, 11:18 PM
alam na naman kung sino mananalo eh


Haha there you guys go again. Remember assuring a sweep? Boo-hoo.


Hats off to the CBS Blazers for putting up a gallant stand in today's game. Playing lose and aggressive early on till, for whatever reason I can't think of, they suddenly stopped playing the way they were doing in the 1st half.

The assurance of a Win for San Beda over CSB was right. ;) But CSB's win record for S84 shall forever have that indelible asterisk (*). Trivia for years to come.... ;D

¡ánimo San Beda!

Regular Grey
08-28-2008, 10:36 AM
alam na naman kung sino mananalo eh


Haha there you guys go again. Remember assuring a sweep? Boo-hoo.



For me, i never predicted a sweep. Ang prediction ko nga ang malakas, JRU at BAste. Pero ang di ko na predict, yung matalo kami ng 20 - 0. after beating your team by more than 20 points - booooooooooooooo-hooooooooooooo

trencher_k
08-28-2008, 05:30 PM
alam na naman kung sino mananalo eh


Haha there you guys go again. Remember assuring a sweep? Boo-hoo.


AFAIK, -insane- is from Letran. Or was this really directed against SBC? I don't remember anyone here assuring a sweep for us but I would just have to ask: what's with the sarcasm?

Get_Blazed
08-28-2008, 06:48 PM
^This is not about anything personal. Its an example of how people tend to always say thing that precedes what really happens. That was just an example. Nothing thrown at anyone in particular. Dont get my statement wrong.

trencher_k
08-28-2008, 10:46 PM
^I asked since that wasn't apparent from the post itself. Now that you've put it in that context, the statement seems less ambiguous. In a court of law, I would have objected to that on the ground of lack of basis. But hey, don't get my statement wrong either.

Regular Grey
08-29-2008, 08:13 AM
^This is not about anything personal. Its an example of how people tend to always say thing that precedes what really happens. That was just an example. Nothing thrown at anyone in particular. Dont get my statement wrong.



What's with the booo hoo, is that really necessary from a mods like you?

mighty_lion
08-29-2008, 08:58 AM
Cool off guys. Lets all remember the roadmap for world peace should always start from our inner self. I started this thread for the purpose of discussing notable performers this season and nothing more. Lets keep the discussions healthy. :)

I will update my end of 1st round assessment after the end of the second round.

Get_Blazed
08-29-2008, 12:48 PM
^I apologize and the post was edited. :)

nastrans
08-29-2008, 10:41 PM
If Allan Mangahas wont win the Rookie of the Year plum after showing up well in his last two games (most notably against Letran earlier), it would be a shame.

Nonetheless, the Mapua freshman has shown his worth for the said award since the start of the year. He has more impact to a team than any rookie in the league.

cub
08-29-2008, 11:07 PM
ROY: Chuck Dalanon or Jake Pascual
DPOY: Jason Ballesteros

Mythical 5: Sam Ekwe
James Sena
Pong Escobal
RJ Jazul
Marc Cagoco

MVP: Sam Ekwe

The_Big_Cat
08-30-2008, 10:07 AM
RJ Jazul's game in the 2nd round has taken a deep plunge and it will definitely hurt his chances of grabbing the MVP plum.

I would now say Sam Ekwe is the frontrunner in the MVP race with an average of 15 ppg and 14 rpg.

Get_Blazed
08-30-2008, 12:02 PM
ROY: Chuck Dalanon or Jake Pascual
DPOY: Jason Ballesteros

Mythical 5: Sam Ekwe
James Sena
Pong Escobal
RJ Jazul
Marc Cagoco

MVP: Sam Ekwe



Biases aside, I dont think Jake Pascual nor my boy CD11 would make it as ROY. Mangahas came up big the past few games for the Cards. I think CD would come close in 2nd and Pascual 3rd. :-\

bossman
08-30-2008, 01:32 PM
MVP: Ekwe
ROY: Mangahas
DPOY: Ballesteros
MIP: Montecastro

Mythical 5
Ekwe
Menor
Jazul
Ballesteros
Cagoco

christian
08-31-2008, 04:08 AM
Jazul and Cagoco?

I'd take Pong and Borgie anytime.

MIP: Jonathan Banal

Howard the Duck
09-01-2008, 11:44 AM
Jazul and Cagoco?

I'd take Pong and Borgie anytime.

MIP: Jonathan Banal



ano yan? 4 out of 5 sa mythical 5 galing sa SBC? wala na bang magaling sa ibang team? LOL

christian
09-01-2008, 09:35 PM
Yup ;)

Howard the Duck
09-02-2008, 01:18 AM
Yup ;)


baka coach of the year SBC pa rin ha ;D

cub
09-02-2008, 11:17 AM
Yup ;)


baka coach of the year SBC pa rin ha ;D


last year it was Frankie Lim. Coach of the year usually comes from the champion team. :P

christian
09-02-2008, 04:46 PM
Yup* ;)


baka coach of the year SBC pa rin ha* ;D


I-vote mo?

BedanRoar
09-02-2008, 05:13 PM
Eh, award ng SBCA puede isama rin dito?

LION
09-02-2008, 06:03 PM
Is Allan Mangahas still eligible for the ROY? AFAIK, he will turn 21 this year - same age as Jay-R Taganas.

The_Big_Cat
09-02-2008, 06:07 PM
^Yes he is. First playing year naman niya in the NCAA.
Sa kabilang liga, hindi pwede dahil galing ka sa Team B.

LION
09-02-2008, 06:18 PM
I guess the NCAA should adopt the same rule.

Allan Mangahas had 2 Team B stints already before playing for MIT this year. He used to be with the DLSU Team B two years ago and thereafter transferred to MIT's Team B last year as part of residency requirements.

That's too many Team B's for a rookie if you ask me.

ALKOHOLyK
09-02-2008, 07:28 PM
^^^parang Sabonis lang...matandang rookie, hehehe ;D

Get_Blazed
09-02-2008, 09:37 PM
I guess the NCAA should adopt the same rule.

Allan Mangahas had 2 Team B stints already before playing for MIT this year. He used to be with the DLSU Team B two years ago and thereafter transferred to MIT's Team B last year as part of residency requirements.

That's too many Team B's for a rookie if you ask me.


Actually, this is common practice.

Our rookies, Robbie Manalac and MC Abolucion, were both from FEU's team B. After which they served their recidency in our team B before finally playing this season.

Howard the Duck
09-03-2008, 01:45 AM
Yup* ;)


baka coach of the year SBC pa rin ha* ;D


last year it was Frankie Lim. Coach of the year usually comes from the champion team. :P

Ang galing naman palang coach ni Frankie ;D

razor
09-03-2008, 10:55 AM
I guess the NCAA should adopt the same rule.

Allan Mangahas had 2 Team B stints already before playing for MIT this year. He used to be with the DLSU Team B two years ago and thereafter transferred to MIT's Team B last year as part of residency requirements.

That's too many Team B's for a rookie if you ask me.



He also went to FEU if I heard it right.

christian
09-04-2008, 09:45 PM
Yup* ;)


baka coach of the year SBC pa rin ha* ;D


last year it was Frankie Lim. Coach of the year usually comes from the champion team. :P

Ang galing naman palang coach ni Frankie* ;D

Thanks! ;)

KingRedLion
09-05-2008, 11:57 AM
MVP = Sam Ekwe.
DPoY - Jason Ballesteros, SSC-R (who has the most steals in the league by the way?)
RoY - Allan Mangahas, MIT

Definitely for the Mythical 5, it would include both Ekwe & Ballesteros. One guard spot should go to Pong Escobal. I'm just unsure who my vote is for the other forward and guard spot. KDP aka Enduranz? Mark Cagoco? James Sena(though he's a Center)? Ian Mazo? ***boy Raymundo of SSC-R? toss up at the very least.

¡ánimo San Beda!

se7en
09-05-2008, 03:26 PM
wala si jazul at daa?

Get_Blazed
09-05-2008, 05:33 PM
With what I saw earlier, Mangahas definitely has the edge to win ROY. Medyo bwaya lang and he tends to force shots tapos pag may napanis, magyayabang. ::)

-insane-
09-05-2008, 08:47 PM
roy mangahas na yan

LION
09-09-2008, 09:16 AM
The top 2 contenders for the ROY are:

Allan Mangahas - PCU NCAA Juniors MVP 2005

Jake Pascual - PCU NCAA Juniors MVP 2006 (voluntary sat out NCAA Seniors 2007)

Allan Mangahas has the slight advantage now in terms of statistics simply because he is playing more minutes as part of Leo Isaac's starting unit.

cub
09-21-2008, 11:12 AM
2008 NCAA awardees:

Seniors
MVP: Sam Ekwe
MIP: Raffy Ynion
ROY: Allan Mangahas
Mythical 5:
Sam Ekwe
Jason Ballesteros
Marvin Hayes
Neil Pascual
RJ Jazul

Juniors
MVP: Keith Agovida
MIP: Keith Agovida
DPOY: Keith Agovida
ROY: Jarelan Tampus
Mythical 5:
Keith Agovida
Arvie Bringas
Jarelan Tampus
Glenn Khobuntin
Martin Reyes

tigerman
09-21-2008, 08:18 PM
I read earlier that a player of a non-final four team is disqualified to be the MVP.

Matagal na ba itong rule na toh?




USTE LO MEJOR!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS!

Get_Blazed
09-21-2008, 08:40 PM
I read earlier that a player of a non-final four team is disqualified to be the MVP.

Matagal na ba itong rule na toh?




USTE LO MEJOR!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS!


New rule po. If the UAAP would apply the same, then Jervy Cruz would not be MVP.

aircanda
09-23-2008, 09:11 PM
Neil Pascual being in the mythical 5 is just fair! He deserves it!

The_Big_Cat
09-24-2008, 10:00 AM
Neil Pascual being in the mythical 5 is just fair! He deserves it!

Since Sam Ekwe (center) is already assured of the MVP, malamang either si Jason Ballesteros or James Sena ang ma select into the mythical five as the power forward. Both Ballesteros and Sena have better statistics ( pts & rebs ) than Neil Pascual.

cub
09-24-2008, 10:53 AM
Neil Pascual being in the mythical 5 is just fair! He deserves it!

Since Sam Ekwe (center) is already assured of the MVP, malamang either si Jason Ballesteros or James Sena ang ma select into the mythical five as the power forward. Both Ballesteros and Sena have better statistics ( pts & rebs ) than Neil Pascual.


the one i posted above are the official awardees for this year.

LION
09-24-2008, 10:54 AM
Cub, wala pa bang Finals MVP at coach of the year? ;D

The_Big_Cat
09-24-2008, 11:44 AM
Neil Pascual being in the mythical 5 is just fair! He deserves it!

Since Sam Ekwe (center) is already assured of the MVP, malamang either si Jason Ballesteros or James Sena ang ma select into the mythical five as the power forward. Both Ballesteros and Sena have better statistics ( pts & rebs ) than Neil Pascual.


the one i posted above are the official awardees for this year.

Anak ng tinapay naman! Isang guwardiya and the rest puro frontline players just like last year.
Sena has the better number than Hayes and Hayes started the season slowly.

aircanda
09-24-2008, 08:37 PM
Neil Pascual being in the mythical 5 is just fair! He deserves it!

Since Sam Ekwe (center) is already assured of the MVP, malamang either si Jason Ballesteros or James Sena ang ma select into the mythical five as the power forward. Both Ballesteros and Sena have better statistics ( pts & rebs ) than Neil Pascual.


the one i posted above are the official awardees for this year.

Anak ng tinapay naman! Isang guwardiya and the rest puro frontline players just like last year.
Sena has the better number than Hayes and Hayes started the season slowly.


kaya nagtataka ako.. akala ko mali ako at akala ko hindi pa pala official pero official na pala... ???
siguro sir bawat team sa final 4 eh dapat may representative... at si Neil Pascual ng MIT ang best na kandidato dahil kung tutuusin.. siya ang backbone ng Mapua.. ala Marvin Hayes din naman ang laro niya eh.. :)

chronobreak18
09-24-2008, 11:52 PM
I would have preferred Neil Pascual to win the MIP award, with him evolving from a relatively obscure player to a Mythical Team member. but nevertheless, congratulations to the winners.

LION
09-25-2008, 11:13 AM
Wala bang special award para kay John "Kojack" Melegrito?*

I saw what he did to Marc Cagocu Cagoco in the last game of Letran against JRU.* What a way to end his NCAA career. ;D

coreytaylor
09-25-2008, 11:52 AM
2008 NCAA awardees:
Mythical 5:
Sam Ekwe
Jason Ballesteros
Marvin Hayes
Neil Pascual
RJ Jazul

what the...official na ba talaga to? ang dami pang mas magagaling sa dalawang to ah.. neil pascual as a G? are they joking? and dami pa na mang pwedeng pagpipilian tulad ni pong escobal, ogie menor, at si dino daa.

The_Big_Cat
09-25-2008, 01:23 PM
2008 NCAA awardees:
Mythical 5:
Sam Ekwe
Jason Ballesteros
Marvin Hayes
Neil Pascual
RJ Jazul

what the...official na ba talaga to? ang dami pang mas magagaling sa dalawang to ah.. neil pascual as a G? are they joking? and dami pa na mang pwedeng pagpipilian tulad ni pong escobal, ogie menor, at si dino daa.

Dino Daa missed two games kasi.

LION
09-25-2008, 01:34 PM
2008 NCAA awardees:
Mythical 5:
Sam Ekwe
Jason Ballesteros
Marvin Hayes
Neil Pascual
RJ Jazul

what the...official na ba talaga to? ang dami pang mas magagaling sa dalawang to ah.. neil pascual as a G? are they joking? and dami pa na mang pwedeng pagpipilian tulad ni pong escobal, ogie menor, at si dino daa.


They based it purely on stats. If you are playing in a team with a deep roster, you'll be hard-pressed to get an individual award.

chba_dude
09-25-2008, 02:31 PM
Malaki ang value ng rebounding sa computation ng stats sa NCAA. Kaya dominated ng big men ang mythical five. It doesn't necessarily have to be the best 5 per position. Purely stats kasi eh.

Anyway, regarding the "new rule" on the MVP coming from a Final Four team, apparently the MANCOM just realized this year that the rulebook states that it should be like that. Kung anu-ano kasi tinitignan sa rulebook, may mga mas importante na bagay pala hindi napapansin.

But make no mistake about it, Jason Ballesteros deserved to be MVP.

oca
09-26-2008, 11:04 AM
I read earlier that a player of a non-final four team is disqualified to be the MVP.

Matagal na ba itong rule na toh?




USTE LO MEJOR!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS!


New rule po. If the UAAP would apply the same, then Jervy Cruz would not be MVP.


Not very new. It came about the year after Jay Sagad became MVP.

Anong taon nga ba yun?

The_Big_Cat
09-26-2008, 02:15 PM
^2006.

Get_Blazed
09-26-2008, 02:50 PM
I read earlier that a player of a non-final four team is disqualified to be the MVP.

Matagal na ba itong rule na toh?




USTE LO MEJOR!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS!


New rule po. If the UAAP would apply the same, then Jervy Cruz would not be MVP.


Not very new. It came about the year after Jay Sagad became MVP.

Anong taon nga ba yun?


Jay Sagad was MVP 2005, so probably later that year or the year after.