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07-08-2008, 06:46 PM
Para sa mga ating mga Suns fanatic.

Latest buzz... Brent Barry is being eyed by the Suns front office.

07-08-2008, 09:52 PM
Is Goran Dragic already a Sun? because i dont see his name in the Suns' line up for the Summer league.

also, Lue was under the Suns' radar right? what happened?

07-08-2008, 11:10 PM
I like Robin Lopez, and was glad that Phoenix picked him up with their 1st round pick. Robin won't be an all-star, but I believe that with his defense and rebounding, he can be just as good as Andris Biedrins of Golden State. Looking forward to seeing him and Amare together on the court for the next several years as the young frontcourt tandem of the Phoenix Suns* ;)

07-11-2008, 11:21 AM
Lue believes he will sign with Suns

Disarmed of money to offer and without much of a 2008 playoff pedigree, the Suns appear to still have recruiting wherewithal with free-agency target Tyronn Lue, who said he expects to sign with the Suns.

"I think we're going to get it done in Phoenix," Lue said Wednesday.

Signing Lue, 31, would fill the Suns' free-agency priority. Suns General Manager Steve Kerr has said he wanted a veteran point guard to back up Steve Nash and start about 12 games to rest Nash, 34.

07-11-2008, 02:53 PM
Oh wow, a Suns thread. :D

Suns looked at Barry and Hayes and now both players have agreed to play somewhere else(Nets and Rockets). So i guess we'll still be using Strawberry and Tucker. Lue is the only available PG from their initial wishlist that includes Anthony Johnson and Chris Duhon.

We need a perimeter defender that can shoot and a backup PG. Goran still has a contract in Europe which will be too costly to be bought out at this point.

07-11-2008, 03:29 PM
Pati nga si Darius Miles kasama sa consideration ng Suns. Patay tayo dyan.* ;D

07-16-2008, 06:40 PM
BTV will be showing the summer league game of Phoenix vs. Portland on Monday, July 21 at 5 AM. First time to see Robin Lopez wearing a Suns uniform in action.

07-17-2008, 09:48 PM
^ Natalo ang Suns sa game na yan. Pumutok si Donte Greene for 40 points.

Meron bukas 830 am.
PHX vs SA.

The revenge of the wounded Suns. LOL. ;D

07-18-2008, 08:37 AM
^ Uh, the game of the Suns against Portland has not been played yet this summer. Donte Greene's Houston team was the first summer league opponent of Phoenix.

This is their summer league sked:

Date Opponent
Monday, July 14 Houston Rockets
Thursday, July 17 San Antonio Spurs
Friday, July 18 New York Knicks
Saturday, July 19 Portland Trail Blazers
Sunday, July 20 Washington Wizards

07-18-2008, 08:48 AM
My bad. Houston pala last Monday.

07-21-2008, 08:09 AM
NBA Summer League stats for key PHX reserves this incoming NBA Season.

Alado Tucker (6'6 SG/SF) - 20.8 ppg - 4.3 rpg - 0.8 apg - .58 FG% - .60 3pt FG% - .8 FT%
DJ Strawberry (6'5 PG/SG) - 18.0 ppg - 3.6 rpg - 3.0 apg - .38 FG% - .12 3pt FG% - .67 FT%
Robin Lopez (7'0 C/PF) - 14.0 ppg - 7.8 rpg - 1.8 bpg - .43 FG% .73 FT%
Marcus Vinicius (6'8 SF/SG) - 7.5 ppg - .44 FG% -.46 3pt FG%

- Tucker is the most efficient of all prospects shooting nearly 60% of all his shots in all areas. His shooting improved a lot since last year and if he continues to improve he might get some minutes on SG/SF positions. Noticeable improvements on Tucker's game are his shot selection and shooting form.
- Strawberry's stats are not that impressive statswise but I heard a lot of positive feedbacks regarding his leadership. His shooting is still suspect but could see some minutes behind Nash as back-up PG.
- Robin Lopez was invited to be part of Select USA Team. Decent production from the rookie who is having some difficulty adjusting in NBA rules (defensive 3 seconds & etc). Some scouts and analyst are surprised about his offensive game. I watched 3 summer league games through live streaming and he runs the floor like a robot. ;D
- Vinicius is a wild card. Steve Kerr said something like "if Vinicius continues to shoot and play well they might sign him as back-up 3pt shooter this NBA season," in an interview yesterday.

07-21-2008, 04:04 PM
Matt Barnes will wear Suns uniform for veteran minimum contract! :)


Updated depth chart as of today:

PG - Nash / Strawberry
SG - Bell / Barbosa / Tucker
SF - Hill / Barnes / Tucker
PF - Stoudamire / Diaw
C - O'neal / Lopez

07-21-2008, 04:51 PM
he's the one who defended against Dirk last last year i think. more D for the suns and this can hit from outside as well. may kapalitan na si Diaw. ahehehe

07-21-2008, 09:23 PM
Barnes also has a decent three point shooting which can be utilized by the Suns. probably he'll play Giricek's role last year.

07-23-2008, 10:16 PM
I have been a loyal Suns fan, but i'm not really too hot on this years roster. And also
the new coach's new philosophy and how will Nash fit in the new scheme of things

07-23-2008, 11:01 PM
Barnes also has a decent three point shooting which can be utilized by the Suns. probably he'll play Giricek's role last year.

I read somewhere that the Suns management promised Barnes a good amount of playing time and the starting SF role in exchange for the vet min contract.

07-23-2008, 11:15 PM
so he'll replace Grant Hill in the starting SF? i think he's fit in replacing Giricek's role, but more playing time.. no back up PG until now? who are the remaining PG left?

07-23-2008, 11:59 PM
As of now si Barbosa pa rin.

corpus christi
07-25-2008, 01:08 PM
but barbosa is more of a SG.. they need a pure PG to replace nash while he's resting..

07-25-2008, 02:44 PM
Suns is too high on Goran Drajic as future replacement for Nash. Whether Drajic will play this incoming NBA season is still an item hanging in the air.

07-28-2008, 09:49 PM
Watched the last few minutes of the summer league game between Phoenix and New York. Robin Lopez wore #15, and had a very good game for himself- 15 points, 9 rebounds in 32 minutes. Robin is definitely not that far behind compared to his twin brother Brook.

Edit: sorry, had to rush out, so posted in a hurry. Meant to say Robin, when I typed Brook again.

07-28-2008, 11:13 PM
Watched the last few minutes of the summer league game between Phoenix and New York. Robin Lopez wore #15, and had a very good game for himself- 15 points, 9 rebounds in 32 minutes. Brook is definitely not that far behind compared to his twin brother Brook.

you mean Robin? :) i hope the Suns get a good bck up PG before the season starts. or maybe trade barbosa and diaw for Josh Smith. :P

08-12-2008, 09:34 AM
I read in realgm.com that the Suns is close to completing the arrangement that will enable Drajic to play this incoming NBA season.

08-12-2008, 04:52 PM
does this mean that they will temporarily stop looking for a veteran PG? lue and johnson have signed already right?

08-18-2008, 12:40 PM
Dragic headed to Phoenix

08-18-2008, 08:02 PM
I think Suns is done doing moves for 08-09 Season.

PG - Nash / Strawberry / Drajic
SG - Bell / Barbosa / Tucker
SF - Hill / Barnes / Tucker
PF - Stoudamire / Diaw / Amundson
C - Shaq / Lopez / Amundson

This should be a good way to start.

08-26-2008, 09:34 AM
Suns Acquire Sean Singletary

great move by the suns. they have acquired a solid pg. singletary was a finalist in getting the bob cousy award in the ncaa. but i still hope that alando tucker will be part of the rotation already and will be nash's back-up.

09-08-2008, 06:23 AM
Suns look to bolster defense
Coach Porter hoping young newcomers provide energy, strengthen core
The Arizona Republic

If purple and orange can go "green," the Suns just might be able to turn defensive.

The Suns' basketball staff descended from their US Airways Center offices Thursday to the Casino Arizona Pavilion for an announcement that the arena soon would be powered by solar panels.

Elsewhere in the arena, more moves have been in the works to get the Suns away from relying on their traditional power sources on the court. There are five new faces among the roster's 13 players, all of whom recently have been in the building for voluntary workouts.

Center Robin Lopez and point guard Goran Dragic, who were acquired in the draft, and free-agent forward Matt Barnes are expected to be regulars, and free agent Louis Amundson and rookie point guard Sean Singletary help keep the Suns young.

"There wasn't a lot of cap space or options for us," said Suns guard Steve Nash, who was on hand Thursday to hail the arena solar-power idea he began pushing more than two years ago. "To pick up the players we did is really exciting. We're way deeper, more energetic and hungrier. I think the chemistry is really important. We made subtle, great moves."

The moves also embody a new coaching era. Each addition was a nod toward the direction that coach Terry Porter wants to move the Suns.

With no full-court play to view yet and three rookies on board, Porter can say only that the Suns are deeper on paper. He is sure the defense will improve.

"Our defense will be better just because we're going to have different schemes," said Porter, who will have the Suns denying middle penetration, a change from previous seasons, when the Suns forced dribblers to the paint. "It's always a challenge when you get a new group together. You have to see how everyone responds and plays off each other. From an energy standpoint, we're going to be solid. Effort is going to be consistent. It really comes down to having more of a presence at the defensive end."

There won't be as many defensive schemes as there have been in the past to go over when the team heads to a weeklong training camp in Tucson on Sept. 29. The defense will be emphasized, and the offense won't be left alone, although most sets are familiar anywhere in the NBA.

"I don't foresee scoring to be a problem going forward," Porter said. "Are we going to be scoring 115 a night? Probably not. I'd like to be a team that defends a lot better. That's going to be a focus of ours. And a team that scores in the 100s.

"I'm more of a traditional type of guy about guys playing the same positions and traditional sets. I'll be running pretty basic NBA sets but just have different wrinkles than they've had in years past."

Depth will bring rotation challenges for Porter to manage. He said a 10-man rotation is hard but added that going nine deep could work. Dragic, a 22-year-old Slovenian, is one of those with a role, backing up Nash. The Suns went through a whirlwind summer to get Dragic. Porter has just begun to get a live look at Dragic in recent weeks.

"He's really good at reading different pick-and-roll situations and fast breaks," Porter said. "The challenging part for him will be just the adjustment to the culture, the NBA style of play and the physicality of the game. Most point guards struggle a bit their rookie year.

"At times, I'm probably going to have to be a little more patient than I am, because I played that position."

The staff's original summer plan was to sign a veteran free-agent point guard who could start in place of Nash for 10-12 games to keep the 34-year-old fresh for the playoffs. With Dragic as Nash's apprentice, the Suns revert to hopes of getting Nash's minutes down from his four-year average of 34.8.

Nash said he saw how San Antonio's Tony Parker played well during the playoffs after missing three weeks (nine games) because of a late January injury. But Nash said down time is unrealistic in the ultracompetitive Western Conference.

"You can't afford just to sit people at your leisure," Nash said. "If we could have a deeper bench and more contribution from the young and new guys, all of us could get more rest.

"He (Dragic) is going to be a good player. He's got a great feel for the game. He's very skilled. He's hungry. Hopefully he'll be able to assimilate to this new environment and game."

09-10-2008, 11:34 AM
Clearly, the Suns want more defense this year. i just hope the Dragic is NBA ready and give effective minutes on the floor as Nash needs more rest this year more than ever. Same goes for Shaq, Lopez should play inspired and should command at least 15 minutes...

09-10-2008, 03:40 PM
i dont think they'll be as fast as the Mike D'Anton and Matrix fueled team but i believe they will still run more. They'll just have more half court sets. It would be intriguing how they will use Barnes. a big bruising SF? or a quick but small PF? he, Diaw, and Hill make mismatches for Porter's setplays. i'm actually waiting for Barbosa to be traded in mid season.

Nike Air
09-10-2008, 04:17 PM
phoenix suns should start their run and gun offense through playing tough defense. that would make them very, very dangerous.

10-22-2008, 11:44 PM
This is the perfect time for Nash to prove to everyone that he can be at the top of his game even without D' Antoni.


10-30-2008, 01:41 PM
Great win on the road for our Phoenix Suns earlier beating the team who knocked the Suns out in 5 games last season. As expected, Amare played his usual self with 22 and 8 and Steve Nash with 13points and 13assists. i hope Shaq will continue to play like this(15 and 13) all throuhout the season.

10-30-2008, 02:04 PM
^yeah i hope he will. he's on my gameface fantasy team ;D

11-02-2008, 12:44 PM
Suns’ transformation won’t come fast
By Johnny Ludden, Yahoo! Sports

PHOENIX – The whistle blew and the Phoenix Suns rolled their eyes. They had run into training camp only to find a traffic cop standing in their way. Terry Porter walked into the middle of their scrimmages. He told them to slow down. He directed them where to go. Two weeks into the preseason and, already, a handful of the Suns had tired of that damn whistle.

“Next time,” one player muttered under his breath, “I’m just going to run him over.”

For the better part of five seasons, the Suns had their fun. Only one word mattered in their huddle: Go. Freedom reigned above all else. They launched their threes and they ran, ran, ran. They won games and fans, and the NBA was better for having them.

No longer, though, are these Mike D’Antoni’s Seven Seconds (or less) Suns, and that was evident Thursday. They spotted Chris Paul and the New Orleans Hornets nine points, sprayed the ball all over the floor and generally looked unsure of themselves. By game’s end, they had totaled 24 turnovers, nearly double what they averaged last season, more than enough to cement their fate with a 108-95 loss. That this happened in their home opener with the Hornets not only missing their starting center, Tyson Chandler, but also losing sharp-shooting guard Peja Stojakovic in the early moments of the fourth quarter, made the performance all the more frustrating.

Afterward, Steve Nash stood in front of his locker and said, “None of us, I think, are quite sure what tempo we’re going to play at.”

Nash wasn’t complaining as much as he was stating the obvious. Still, nine months ago, who would have imagined one of the game’s greatest playmakers needing to search for his team’s identity?

Much has happened in those nine months. Suns GM Steve Kerr, encouraged by D’Antoni, traded Shawn Marion to the Miami Heat for Shaquille O’Neal midway through last season. By then, Kerr had already begun to question the team’s defensive flaws. The Suns went on to lose to their longtime tormenter, the San Antonio Spurs, in the first round of the playoffs. D’Antoni considered Kerr too meddlesome; Kerr thought D’Antoni too stubborn. Unwilling to submit to his boss’ demand to add a defensive-minded assistant to his staff, D’Antoni left for New York.

Kerr chose Porter, a former Spurs teammate, as D’Antoni’s replacement, shouldering him with perhaps the greatest coaching challenge in the NBA: Change the culture of an already successful franchise, and do it on the fly in the rugged Western Conference.

Preseason injuries have already slowed the process, and the Suns’ opening schedule won’t help them. In the first four weeks, they play the Spurs, Hornets, Portland Trail Blazers (twice), Houston Rockets, Detroit Pistons and Los Angeles Lakers.

Nights like Thursday will test the relationship of these Suns and their new coach. Porter was a heady and respected point guard during his day, but this is only his third season leading a staff. He’ll also need time to search through his roster, which includes a few stubborn veterans. While D’Antoni kept his rotation short, Porter used 11 players against the Hornets, even turning to Louis Amundson for a stretch in the second quarter.

“It’s still going to be a learning experience for me,” Porter said.

In spite of the initial whistle-happy transition, sources say the Suns started to warm to Porter as he loosened the reins toward the end of the preseason. After they beat the Spurs in Wednesday’s opener, picking-and-rolling them to death and getting key defensive stops in the fourth quarter, Grant Hill joked, “We out-San Antonioed San Antonio.”

The problem: The Spurs have been out-San Antonio-ing teams for more than a decade now. The Suns did it for a night. The Hornets came to town Thursday, and two minutes into the game, Shaq was turning his back on Paul, letting the point guard run up his jersey for a layup. The Suns can install all the new schemes they want, but they can’t escape this fact: Nash, Stoudemire and O’Neal are all poor defenders.

To lessen the pressure on the Suns’ defense, Porter has tried to control the pace at which they play. That means cutting back the number of quick shots. His motto: If you want to run, get a stop.

“A good shot to me is wide open, non-contested,” Porter said. “If that comes in five seconds or 20 seconds doesn’t matter.”

These Suns, however, are used to playing free and loose, and that’s how Nash became a two-time MVP. Shackle him and you lose what makes him so good, you lose his ability to improvise. “I don’t like what they’re doing,” said one Western Conference scout. “They could end up marginalizing Steve.”

Porter is smart and he’ll make a good coach. Even skeptics agree the Suns have long needed someone to hold Stoudemire accountable. Porter appears up to the task. Already, he’s drawn two technicals in his first two games. D’Antoni had that many all of last season.

But if the Suns’ new coach hasn’t learned now, he will soon. At some point, he and Nash will have to strike a balance. Ironically, Porter used to occasionally grouse about the Spurs’ offense under Gregg Popovich, saying the team needed to push the ball more. Once, Porter ended a 3-on-1 break by pulling up for a 3-pointer. He looked over to see Popovich burying his head in his hands.

So there stood Porter Thursday, eight years later, barking at Raja Bell for forcing a shot.

“I tried worrying about what’s a good shot and what’s a bad shot in training camp, and that didn’t work out too well for me,” Bell said after the game. “So I’m just going to shoot when I feel it’s a good look and if that’s not what he wants, he’ll tell me.”

Few Suns have looked more lost in the offense these first two games. Bell took just four shots against the Spurs and only two in Thursday’s first half. He scored 13 points in the second half, but that didn’t mask his frustration.

“I’m not a figure-it-out guy,” he said. “You tell me what you want, I’ll try to give it to you.

“I guess I didn’t know tonight.”

Thursday was just one night, but there will be more. No one expected this to be easy. For better or worse, these Suns now have someone telling them where to go. What direction they take remains to be seen.

11-04-2008, 05:52 PM
Etong problema ng Phoenix will depend on the acceptance level of the players regarding the type of team coach Porter wants them to be. Ang problem dyan is kung hindi pa rin nila matanggap na they have to put premium on defense this time around then I see a failing Suns team this season. Depende na rin kung saang side magpapapressure si Steve Kerr if all else fail for Phoenix. If he goes to the side of the players, malamang palit coach yan. If he goes to the side of the coaches, then we might see trades left and right just to fit the team according to coach Porter's specifications.

11-04-2008, 09:48 PM
Kerr had always wanted a defensive oriented coach ever since he took that stint with Phoenix. that's why he simply let D'Antoni go.

I don't think the Suns will be serious contenders for the title this season, which saddens me since I am a big fan of Steve Nash. I'm still hoping though that things might just work, but looking at the situation and looking at teams out west like the Lakers, Jazz, Hornets, Rockets, well, it just doesn't look too good.

11-04-2008, 11:59 PM
For this team, it's all about Shaq being effecitive in lesser minutes. They won't make any kind of serious noise in the regular season (pacing the vets) but will be dangerous come playoff time. If Shaq says he is serious and plays like it they will be the darkhorse in the postseason in the tough, tough western conference.

11-14-2008, 12:29 PM
Shaq becomes NBA's 10th all-time scorer
Agence France-Presse

MIAMI -- Phoenix Suns giant center Shaquille O'Neal vaulted past John Havlicek to become the 10th all-time leading scorer in National Basketball Association history.

O'Neal scored 18 points and grabbed 13 rebounds in the Suns 94-82 loss to Houston on Wednesday.

O'Neal now has a 26,402 career points, just ahead of Havlicek's 26,395. If he stays on pace this season he could pass Dominique Wilkins (26,668), Oscar Robertson (26,710) and Hakeem Olajuwon (26,946).

Hall of Famer Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (38,387) is the NBA's all-time scoring leader.

The 36-year-old O'Neal also passed the 12,000 mark for rebounds on Wednesday and currently sits at 12,003, good for 19th on the all-time list.

O'Neal, who also played for Orlando, Los Angeles Lakers and Miami, was front and center for another reason in Wednesday's contest after being involved in a third quarter shoving match.

The game turned physical in the final half-minute of the third when the Suns' Matt Barnes shoved Rafer Alston, who was attempting to set a pick. Houston's Tracy McGrady hit a jumper and Houston's Alston went after Barnes.

Canadian Steve Nash then charged into the melee and McGrady pushed him to the floor. O'Neal then went in as a peacemaker and shoved McGrady and the pile to the floor.

"It was just a shoving match. I saw somebody push my brother Steve and so I came to his aid," O'Neal said. "It wasn't anything good. That's what I do, move piles."

12-12-2008, 04:42 AM
Ok, now I'm really confused with Steve Kerr's plans for the Suns.

First he says he wants the team to be much more defensive oriented that's why he let D'Antoni leave and handpicked Terry Porter to carry out his vision.

Then he trades Raja Bell, arguably his best perimeter defender on the team after Marion's departure, and gets J-Rich who may be much more suited to D'Antoni's "7-seconds-or-less" Suns.

With the way things are going, I won't be surprised if Nash is gone by the end of this season.

12-12-2008, 01:35 PM
arjay_g, i had the same question actually, but I've read reports that it's Bell who's not particularly pleased with the Porter system, and i guess in the process, made himself disposable.

12-12-2008, 02:56 PM
we now don't have any perimeter defender. :) no marion, strawberry, and bell. I think Kerr and Porter is starting to realize that their approch is making their offense suffer and is trying to it another way. will we see a better team defense now that the 1-on-1 defenders are gone? i hope so. Go SUNS!

12-15-2008, 06:32 PM
No Marion, Bell and Strawberry?*


Steve Nash is the answer. Consider this is as an open warning for Chris Paul, Tony Parker and Deron Williams* ;D

12-16-2008, 03:09 AM
akalain mo nakapalpal si steve nash. ;D :D

02-06-2009, 04:12 PM
Sources: Suns ponder deals for Stoudemire
By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports

Perhaps signaling a willingness to dismantle their roster, the Phoenix Suns have begun exchanging trade proposals with teams for All-Star forward Amare Stoudemire, league executives told Yahoo! Sports on Thursday.

With dysfunction and dissension reigning within the Suns, rival front-office executives believe general manager Steve Kerr is determined to move Stoudemire and others before the Feb. 19 trade deadline.

While Stoudemire, 26, is the Suns’ most valuable asset, sources say Kerr has told teams that he’s willing to trade anyone on his roster except for point guard Steve Nash.

“Everyone is on the table but Nash,” one executive said.

Phoenix owner Robert Sarver has been more reluctant to part with Stoudemire and still hasn’t yet given his blessing to act on a Stoudemire proposal. Nevertheless, most believe that Sarver will inevitably do so.

While there will likely be some interest in a rejuvenated Shaquille O’Neal, it is Stoudemire, the enigmatic 6-foot-10, 250-pound forward, whom most NBA teams have an interest in acquiring.

If Kerr and assistant GM David Griffin do trade Stoudemire, a four-time All-Star, they want a combination of expiring contracts, a talented young player – preferably a forward – and draft picks. Stoudemire is expected to opt out of his contract for the historic free-agent summer of 2010. He makes $15 million this season and $16.3 million next season. His relationship with Suns management has steadily deteriorated and few expect that either side is interested in a contract extension.

Phoenix made the biggest move of the trade deadline a year ago, trading Shawn Marion for Shaquille O’Neal in a deal that the Suns believed could help them overtake the San Antonio Spurs and Los Angeles Lakers in the Western Conference. Yet, the Suns lost to the Spurs in the first round of the playoffs, which turned into a prelude to an acrimonious exit with coach Mike D’Antoni.

This season, Phoenix has struggled to a 26-21 record, which leaves them tied for the final playoff spot in the Western Conference. The Suns were blown out Wednesday night in Golden State, 124-112.

With O’Neal clogging the middle, Stoudemire has expressed frustration with a diminished offensive role. Stoudemire still flusters his GM and coach because of an unwillingness to commit to anything but scoring. Stoudemire’s scoring and rebounding averages have dropped this season, and he recently told Yahoo! Sports that he was struggling with an offense that features fewer pick-and-rolls for him, fewer touches in the low post.

“It is harder,” Stoudemire said. “When you’re in the flow, everything flows. When you’re not, sometimes it’s hard to get involved.”

After the loss to Golden State, Stoudemire told reporters, “To keep losing these games the way we are, it’s not fun. I’m not used to it. It’s almost against my religion.”

Sources believe the Suns are more apt to shop Stoudemire to the Eastern Conference, where Toronto and New York are natural possibilities. Raptors GM Bryan Colangelo drafted Stoudemire for the Suns, and Knicks coach Mike D’Antoni helped turn him into an All-Star. Still, the acrimonious nature of Colangelo’s and D’Antoni’s departures could lessen Phoenix management’s willingness to deal with them.

Nevertheless, Phoenix promises once more be at the center of the league’s biggest trade talks leading up to the deadline.

source (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-stoudemiresuns020509&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)

02-16-2009, 09:56 PM
Source: Porter out as Suns’ coach, Gentry in

By BOB BAUM, AP Sports Writer

PHOENIX (AP)—Terry Porter didn’t last a season as head coach of the Phoenix Suns. Following Mike D’Antoni was just too tough of an act to pull off.

Porter will be fired and replaced by assistant Alvin Gentry, a person familiar with the decision said Sunday night.

The person spoke on condition of anonymity because the official announcement had not been made.

The move was first reported by The Arizona Republic on its Web site Sunday.

Porter was four months into his first season on the three-year, $6 million contract he got to replace D’Antoni, who left after four highly successful seasons to coach the New York Knicks.

Read complete article here-

02-17-2009, 03:42 PM
From Adrian Wojnorowski of Yahoo...

Shaq is last rising Sun

By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports Feb 16, 3:38 am EST

PHOENIX – This had to be one of the most humiliating weekends in the franchise’s history, a collision of misjudgments and mistakes that transformed the biggest celebration in the Phoenix Suns’ history into an agonizing examination of the franchise’s fall. Suns owner Robert Sarver had made a mess of trades talks with Amare Stoudemire, botched beyond belief the firing of Terry Porter and transformed an envied enterprise into an embarrassment.

Somehow, Shaquille O’Neal had become a saving grace for the Suns. This was his gift to bosses who are stuck with his steep salary. They turned out the lights inside US Airways Center and Shaq gave him what he does best now, a laugh, a masked dance, a stand-up routine for basketball’s most irreverent and irrelevant night.

As a return on the Shaq investment goes, this promised to be the biggest night of his Suns career. The Suns needed a court jester to make everyone laugh here, to deflect the chaos consuming this franchise.

The NBA’s tabulation of votes that made Shaq and Kobe Bryant co-MVP’s felt as legitimate as election night in Havana, but who could blame the irresistible irony of Shaq and Kobe tugging on that MVP trophy at night’s end.

“That’s the first time I have seen an MVP that played 11 minutes in an All-Star game,” Phil Jackson said.

And that’ll be the last, because this promised to be goodbye for O’Neal as an All-Star. Only, it isn’t goodbye for the Suns. As badly as Phoenix management has tried, it can’t undo the mistake of absorbing Shaq’s $20 million-a-season contract that extends into 2010. There are no takers. So, the Suns are trying to move Amare Stoudemire and it threatens to spiral them into the stone ages.

For far beyond the greatest basketball players in the world Sunday night, the movie stars and politicians, the music and lights, there was a grease board hanging in the Suns’ basketball-operations office with two distinct columns of possible trades: basketball-motivated deals on one side and salary dumps on the other.

Make no mistake: The future of the franchise could be at the mercy of the impulsive, impatient Sarver.

“Sarver is all over the map,” said one Western Conference executive briefed on Suns matters. “One minute, he wants to do a basketball deal. And then the next, it’s a salary dump.”

The Chicago Bulls and Suns were talking seriously on Sunday, and multiple league sources believe those two teams are the best chance for a Stoudemire trade to happen. The talks with Chicago are still centered on the expiring contract of Drew Gooden, Tyrus Thomas and a first-round draft pick.

Nevertheless, Suns officials are privately insisting to teams that they’d better get out their best offers for Stoudemire, because they say they’re willing to keep him and let the trade deadline pass Thursday. The Suns have been disappointed in the quality of offers for Stoudemire, and no one is sure they’ll get better between now and Thursday.

Portland and Cleveland are waiting back, sources say, hoping the Suns are unable to close a deal near the trade deadline and that Sarver, desperate to shed the salary, will cave into the uninspiring offers those two teams have made for Stoudemire.

Portland has offered the expiring deal of Raef LaFrentz, rookie point guard Jerryd Bayless and a first-round pick. Cleveland has offered the expiring contract of Wally Szczerbiak, rookie forward J.J. Hickson and a first-rounder.

“They’re waiting to see if Sarver is desperate enough to dump him for cap room,” one Western Conference executive said.

Still, the Suns privately insist to people that they’ll never do that trade with the Blazers, which is why a Western Conference executive said Sunday night that Portland was exploring a LaFrentz-Travis Outlaw package for the Milwaukee Bucks’ Richard Jefferson and Luke Ridnour.

Bulls assistant GM Gar Forman – who most believe will succeed John Paxson over the summer – has spearheaded the Bulls’ trade talks. Gooden brings an expiring contract, and Thomas is an athletic, 6-foot-9 power forward the Suns can plug into Stoudemire’s slot. After a sluggish start to his career, Thomas, 22, has blossomed this season. Across the past 21 games as a starter, he’s averaged a career-best 12.5 points and 7.0 rebounds. He could fit well into the faster offense that new Suns coach Alvin Gentry – who replaces the fired Terry Porter – is expected to bring to the Suns.

The Suns’ VP of basketball operations, David Griffin, loved Thomas when he was coming out of LSU three years ago. The Suns also have discussed adding Matt Barnes into a trade with Stoudemire, front office officials said. Still, the market for Stoudemire has been sluggish. Part of that is the recession that has owners more interested in trimming payroll than adding to it. And part of that has been the desperate state of the Suns that’s left teams believing they can steal Stoudemire. In these economic times, this is a league of sellers, not buyers.

While the Suns are insisting that they’re willing to hold onto Stoudemire without the right offer, most teams are skeptical. They think Sarver is determined to dump Stoudemire, whatever the recommendations of his top basketball executives, Kerr and Griffin. Sources say the Bulls have been off-balance in dealings with the Suns, just because they’re never sure which way Sarver will veer next.

Make no mistake: These are the Sarver Suns. What Sarver allowed to happen to Porter on Sunday was inexcusable, trying to postpone his firing until the end of the weekend only to have it drag out for days and embarrass him. The Suns thought they could sneak his dismissal through until Monday and that turned into a disaster on the night of the All-Star Game.

Most Suns fans were left mumbling that ex-owner Jerry Colangelo would’ve never let things spiral this way. Colangelo was one more Suns ghost haunting the franchise Sunday, passing out rings to his U.S. Olympic gold medal basketball players at halftime. He had the microphone one more time in US Airways Center, but he no longer had the voice here. Robert Sarver runs these Suns, and this weekend turned out to be mostly about his incompetence and inability to sustain a proud franchise.

Shaq danced on Sunday night and they roared here. Only, no one wanted to come to grips with the cold-hearted truth of the matter. Shaq was dancing on the Suns’ basketball grave.

02-21-2009, 06:26 AM
nothing like scoring 282 pts against my clippers to make themselves feel good.

let's see if they can do that against the champs on sunday (monday here)

02-21-2009, 09:53 AM
just as things were looking bright for Phoenix, this happens:

Eye injury may put Suns’ Stoudemire out for season
By BOB BAUM, AP Sports Writer

PHOENIX (AP)—Amare Stoudemire could be finished for the season just days after the Phoenix Suns decided not to trade him.

Stoudemire, a starter for the West in Sunday’s All-Star Game, had eye surgery Friday and won’t be able to resume physical activity for about eight weeks.

“We’re going to be ultraconservative with this and if it means he misses the remainder of the season, so be it,” Suns general manager Steve Kerr said. “He’s got a long career and a long life ahead of him. And that’s the most important thing.”

The NBA playoffs begin eight weeks from Saturday, and it’s no sure thing the Suns will even be in the postseason, especially with their All-Star power forward unavailable for the final 29 games of the regular season.

“He was really discouraged,” Kerr said. “He was really starting to play well. He was feeling good about things. Our team obviously is feeling very good about things, just about the way the last couple of games have gone, and this is a major blow.”

The eye had been bothering Stoudemire before Wednesday night’s game against the Clippers in Los Angeles, where he scored 42 points in Phoenix’s 142-129 victory. A blow to the head early in the game may have aggravated the injury.

The Suns didn’t find out about the need for surgery until after Thursday’s trade deadline.

“He seemed fine. He didn’t have a lot of discomfort after the game,” Kerr said. “It seemed like this was going to be a routine checkup like he’s had about monthly throughout this season. We didn’t expect, obviously, what we found out.”

Had the Suns known of the injury, Kerr said he would have looked to acquire someone to help fill the void, “but that’s easier said than done.”

Pravin Dugel, who performed the surgery to repair a partially detached retina in Stoudemire’s right eye, said the eight-week recovery period is an average and the time varies case by case.

Stoudemire injured the same eye in training camp this season. In that case, he had a partially torn iris with no damage to the retina.

Last week, the Suns entertained offers from other teams for Stoudemire but decided against the move after firing coach Terry Porter on Sunday and replacing him with Alvin Gentry. Gentry returned Phoenix to the high-speed game of Mike D’Antoni, a system that suits Stoudemire best.

Gentry said the team would keep running. He inserted speedy guard Leandro Barbosa into the starting lineup against Oklahoma City on Friday night, moving 6-foot-8 Grant Hill to the power forward spot.

“We want to run as much as we have,” Gentry said before the game, “and if we can run more, we’ll do that.”

He said his starting lineup could vary depending on the opponent.

“We’ll have combinations out there with a lot of small guys and we’ll have combinations out there with a lot of medium guys,” Gentry said. “We don’t really have a lot of big guys so we’ll be medium I guess out there.”

Stoudemire is one of the game’s best finishers on fastbreaks.

Rather than “a thunderous dunk,” Gentry said, “it may have to be a layup. But we can still do some of the things that we did, a lot of things that we did.”

Steve Nash said the players have to keep their spirits up.

“We’ve got a choice to make,” Nash said. “Are we going to come together and make the most of the situation and give ourselves a chance, or are we going to cry about it and fragment and splinter and not give ourselves a chance?”

Stoudemire’s backup used to be Boris Diaw, but he was traded to Charlotte along with Raja Bell in the deal that brought Jason Richardson to Phoenix.

“We traded Boris and we lose Amare,” Nash said. “So we lost two really good power forwards and that’s going to put a strain on any team. But we’ll just try to make do and do the best we can.

“We’ve still got a lot of good players and if we come together and have a good spirit and are competitive, I think we’ll win a lot of games.”

Owner Robert Sarver also chose not to deal Shaquille O’Neal, like Stoudemire a high-priced player with a year left on his contract, in order to make a run at the postseason. The Suns entered Friday night’s play a game behind Utah for the eighth and final playoff berth in the West.

Kerr said Stoudemire’s long-term prognosis is excellent, and he should have 100 percent recovery of his vision.

Stoudemire, the only Suns player to start all 53 games, is the team’s leading scorer for the third consecutive year, averaging 21.4 points and 8.1 rebounds per game.

source (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-suns-stoudemireout&prov=ap&type=lgns)

02-21-2009, 10:17 AM
Yaiks. This is the time Suns is going to miss Boris Diaw. :(

02-21-2009, 10:35 AM
Louis Amundson is the solution! hehehe ;D

02-26-2009, 05:17 PM
Kailangan ng Suns si Amare, walang duda dun, ang siste lang naman matindi toyo nitong Amare.

"Keeping every one's spirits up, and keeping the team together, that's not my job. That's the captains' job." Galing sumagot sa interview ano? Ganyan ba inaasahan mong magdadala sa koponan sa kampeonato? Ewan ko lang, mukhang baligtad pa nga: inaayawan ni Amare and totoong responsibilidad na dapat inaako ng isang totoong pinuno.

Buti na nga din nadale mata niya, dito malalaman ng Suns kung talaga nga bang kailangan nila si Amare. Kapag laglag ang Suns pwedeng sabihing expected at wala na nga siya. Maganda mo nito manalo ang Suns at hindi lang umabot sa Playoffs, bagkus umabot ng panglawang ronda. Kapag ganyan ang nangyari tiyak na tsugi na si Amare.

02-27-2009, 10:22 AM
a very nice article


02-27-2009, 03:27 PM
a very nice article


biased article. nary a mention of robert sarver and his way of managing the team from not signing joe johnson before his contract year to selling first round draft picks over and over again.

easiest way to be profitable and stay good is to sign players to reasonable contracts vis-a-vis their skill level and utilizing young studs in their rookie contracts -- both of which the phoenix suns team management failed to do.

02-28-2009, 04:13 PM
The Big Cactus just dropped 45 big points and 11 rebs on Toronto...

plus Louis Amundson also scored 20 pts, grabbed 10 boards and swatted 4.

sabi sa inyo Amundson is the solution eh ;D

03-02-2009, 03:02 PM
Shaqtus has done it again.... this time with 33pts while beating, surprise surprise, his old team the LA Lakers and despite bestfriend Kobe Bryant's 49 points.

He did get a lot of help though with Matt Barnes having an all around game of 26pts, 10rebs, 7assts, and 3stls. Leandro Barbosa also drilled in 22pts and dished 7, and Grant Hill contributing 17pts.

The Lakers, on the other hand, only had 1 other player scoring in double digits. Pau Gasol had 30 pts while the next leading scorer was Trevor Ariza with 9.

03-13-2009, 04:47 PM
Phoenix got their 6th straight loss which I think is their longest in the Nash era. Their record now is 34-31 which is 6 games behind the current no. 8 Dallas. Don't wanna be on the receiving end of frustration of the fans here but I don't think they can still make a fight for the last seed in the west.


03-13-2009, 05:09 PM
My sig says it all. :'(

03-14-2009, 09:22 PM

First, Nash missed the All Star game in his own backyard. Now he's gonna miss the playoffs altogether. :'(

Damn you Sarver and Kerr. >:(