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amdgc82
01-12-2008, 03:15 AM
MVP bats for nat’l collegiate tourney
Philippine Star
Saturday, January 12, 2008

After failing to create a super league unifying the NCAA and the UAAP, the BAP-Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas is now pursuing a bigger project featuring the cream of collegiate teams in what could be labeled the national championship.

SBP president Manny V. Pangilinan presented the program in a meeting yesterday at Makati Shangri-La with some school leaders including Bro. Bernie Oca of La Salle, Junjun Capistrano of Ateneo, Herc Callanta of UP, Paul Supan of JRU, Ding Lozano of Mapua and Henry Atayde of St. Benilde.

“It was a fellowship meeting hosted by Mr. Manny V. Pangilinan for the friends of SBP. It was a brainstorming, and the school officials helped analyze how everybody can help SBP. The consensus was that let’s play together, disputing a national championship,” said SBP executive director Patrick Gregorio.

The proposed UAAP-NCAA joint league has been left in the hands of UP officials who are now just looking for a pre-season tourney also to be held as part of the grand centennial celebration of the state university. The UAAP board nixed the planned merger.

“We’re still thankful with the wonderful hype generated by the proposal. Now, we would like to share the real vision of Mr. Pangilinan which is a national collegiate championship,” said Gregorio.

The inaugural SBP national collegiate championship, which is going to be a home-and-away event, is slated in the fourth week of November up to the first week of December. Regional eliminations start as early as March.

Gregorio said Rey Gamboa and Joe Lipa, organizers of the Champions League, have been requested to be the project director and deputy project director, respectively.

Scholarship funds and the right to represent the country in the 2009 World University Games in Serbia are at stake in the inaugural championship. – Nelson Beltran

amdgc82
01-12-2008, 03:16 AM
Nat'l collegiate cage tournament hatched
By Jasmine W. Payo
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 11:32pm (Mla time) 01/11/2008

MANILA, Philippines--THE BAP-Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas laid the groundwork Friday for the formation of the 2008 National Collegiate Championship, which will gather the top 16 varsity teams in the country this November, following the botched plan to unify the UAAP and the NCAA.

The November tournament will be a strengthened version of the Champions League, which will be dissolved to give way to the post-season competition that pits the best collegiate squads in the country, including representatives from the Visayas and Mindanao.

"We're planning it, subject to the concurrence of all leagues," said BAP-SBP president Patrick Gregorio. "Hopefully we clarified that there's no merger, that this is what we want."

The tournament champion will represent the Philippines in the 2009 University Games in Serbia.

"It will be the first time the Philippines will send a representative because we never had a national collegiate champion," said Gregorio.

The plan was hatched when BAP-SBP president Manny V. Pangilinan and Gregorio met several officials of the UAAP and the NCAA Friday at the Makati Shangri-La.

Gregorio said BAP-SBP will formally present the proposal to all concerned schools starting this month.

Those who attended came in their individual capacity and not as representatives of the UAAP or the NCAA.

UAAP commissioner Ed Cordero attended the gathering along with league members Junjun Capistrano of Ateneo, Br. Bernie Oca, FSC, of La Salle and Hercules Callanta the University of the Philippines.

Also present were NCAA management committee chair Paul Supan of host Jose Rizal University, Mapua's Ding Lozano and St. Benilde's Henry Atayde.

BAP-SBP appointed former PBA chair Rey Gamboa as project director of the nationwide tournament and veteran coach Joe Lipa as his deputy.

amdgc82
01-12-2008, 03:18 AM
SBP, BAP on collision course?
Manila Bulletin
Saturday, January 12, 2008

IT LOOKS like officials of the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas and Basketball Association of the Philippines are heading on a collision course once again.

Two days after the BAP announced that it’s going to hold the 62nd National Student Championship next month in Cebu City, SBP secretary-general Patrick Gregorio disclosed yesterday that the FIBA-recognized association will also stage its own version of collegiate tournament sometime in November.

But while most schools from the UAAP and NCAA won’t see action in the BAP-organized tournament which starts on Feb. 25, Gregorio said several representatives of major schools have agreed — in principle — to join their tournament which will have the winner representing the country in next year’s World University Games in Serbia.

"Now we’ll have a truly national basketball champion. Ever since, this has been the plan of the SBP," Gregorio told the Bulletin after the meeting held at the Shangri-La Hotel in Makati City.

Herc Callanta of University of the Philippines, Jun-Jun Capistrano of Ateneo, Bro. Bernie Oca of De La Salle University, Paul Supan of Jose Rizal University, Henry Atayde of College of St. Benilde and Ding Lozano of Mapua attended the meeting.

Callanta, Capistrano and Oca are members of the UAAP Board, while Supan, Atayde and Lozano belong to the Management Committee of the NCAA.

Also present during the meeting was SBP president Manny V. Pangilinan, the telecommunication mogul whose company PLDT/Smart Communications who promised to give a financial bonus to the champion team.

Asked to comment regarding the activity of BAP officials, Gregorio said they are in the process of asking them why SBP was not informed about their Cebu tournament.

"They (BAP officials) did not inform us," said Gregorio. "I hope we can settle this matter."

However, a source in the SBP revealed that Pangilinan will issue a statement regarding the BAP activity in the days to come.

In a joint communique agreed and signed by both BAP and Pilipinas Basketball officials and witnessed by FIBA officials in Tokyo two years ago, both organizations shall be dissolved, and cease to operate once a national association for basketball is established.

Gregorio also said that any activity, program or event related to basketball and requiring national federation approval, must have the prior sanction of the BAP-SBP, the absence of which will make such program or event unofficial.

"That’s why I’m trying my very best to reach out to all basketball stakeholders to unite and support our national federation," said Gregorio.

Meantime, Gregorio said the tournament will coincide with the National Collegiate Champions League (CCL), a yearly tournament being organized by Rey Gamboa and veteran coach Joe Lipa.

Gamboa and Lipa, who started the tournament in 2003, were named as project director and deputy project director, respectively.

"So this will take place on the fourth week of November, with the best collegiate teams in Metro Manila facing the top teams from the provinces," Gregorio added.

One of the formats being considered by the SBP is the home-and-away with the possibility of UAAP champion De La Salle University and back-to-back NCAA titlist San Beda College playing in the province.—Waylon GALVEZ

john_paul_manahan
01-12-2008, 05:44 AM
lets have some provinces host the event (baguio, cebu, tacloban, etc).

then have the final four in a place like philsports or araneta (if ever)

thadzonline
01-12-2008, 11:25 AM
pwedeng i-regionalize ang tournaments then top teams advance to the nationals just like they are thinking patterned after the NCAA in the US and yung final four home and away pa rin ang format

amdgc82
01-13-2008, 07:43 AM
Top colleges join national collegiate cage tourney
By Nelson Beltran
Philippine Star
Sunday, January 13, 2008

Three eminent provincial cage leaders have expressed support to the proposed National Collegiate Championship less than 24 hours after SBP president Manny V. Pangilinan presented the program in a meeting with some Manila-based school officials Friday.

Cebu Congressman and the University of Visayas owner Eddie Gullas, Iloilo Basketball League president Snook Divinagracia and West Negros’ Tony Agustin sent SBP executive director Patrick Gregorio text messages, throwing full support to the programs of SBP in totality.

Earlier, the National Athletic Association of Schools, Colleges and Universities (NAASCU), through its president Dr. Jay Adalem, also expressed its full backing of the proposed championship which is to feature the cream of collegiate teams slugging it out for the right to represent the country in the Universiade in Serbia in 2009.

This developed as the SBP president said he’s “reaching out to all basketball stakeholders to unite and support our national federation.”

The Basketball Association of the Philippines, under former Congressman Butch Pichay, has also announced its staging of the National Students Championship in Cebu.

Pangilinan said the Cebu event doesn’t have the blessing of the SBP and the International Basketball Federation.

“The joint communiqué agreed and signed by both the BAP and Pilipinas Basketball, and witnessed by FIBA in Tokyo in 2006 makes it clear that once a national association is established – which is now the SBP – both the BAP and SPB will be dissolved and cease to operate,” said Pangilinan.

“Any activity, program or event related to basketball and requiring national federation approval, must have prior sanction of the SBP. The absence of which will make such program, event or activity unofficial and thus not approved by the SBP and not sanctioned by the FIBA,” Pangilinan added.

FEU’s Anton Montinola wasn’t in the meeting Friday at Makati Shangri-La but he also sent a message of support and participation.

The inaugural SBP national collegiate championship is going to be a home-and-away event slated in the fourth week of November up to the first week of December. Regional eliminations start as early as March.

Scholarship funds and the right to represent the country in the 2009 World University Games in Serbia are at stake in the inaugural championship.

amdgc82
01-14-2008, 06:14 AM
SWU to BAP-SBP: What about other schools?
Sunstar Cebu
Monday, January 14, 2008

THE newly-hatched plan of the Basketball Association of the Philippines-Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (BAP-SBP) to organize a national inter-collegiate competition may have received favorable response from its members, also attracted a critical observation as well.

Cebu Schools Athletic Foundation Inc (Cesafi) commissioner Felix Tiukinhoy welcomed the development initiated by BAP-SBP top honchos Manny Pangilinan and Patrick Greogrio.

“It is something our teams can look forward to and can aim for,” Tiukinhoy said.

However, Southwestern University athletic director Ryan Aznar feels for those interested schools who are not members of any BAP-SBP leagues.

“I think it is unfair to some schools which do not have affiliations with a BAP-SBP league,” said Aznar in behalf of interested schools that have very weak chances to compete for national honors because they are not affiliated with leagues sanctioned by BAP-SBP.

SWU is part of Cesafi, a stakeholder of the BAP-SBP.

“If they want the qualifying for the nationals sanctioned by Cesafi, it is also unfair for the non-Cesafi members,” Aznar said.

Aznar referred to fellow Cebuano teams Asian College of Technology and Salazar Institute of Technology, both of whom, SWU had gone against in various competitions.

ACT applied for membership with the Cesafi last year, but was denied.

The national competition, just as in the past, will have leagues from all over the county holding their own tournaments to determine the lcoal champions. The champions will advance to the national championships set at the end of November.

Earlier this week, BAP-SBP worked together with the organizers of the Philippine Champions’ League, and agreed to hold the competitions to answer the BAP-organized National Schools Basketball Championship.

Since non BAP-SBP schools are not allowed to join, they opt to join the ones initiated by the supposedly defunct BAP.

“We can’t blame them if they want to join the competition of BAP. They are outcasts and then there is a group that is willing to help them and accept them so they go,” said a source who asked not to be named.

Gregorio, however, said that membership with BAP-SBP is open to those interested. “We are open to inviting them. They just have to affiliate with SBP. Walang problema. We are here as the national federation,” Greorgio said.

He added that for any concerns about membership, the schools can e-mail him at pcg.sbp@gmail.com.

When asked if schools can directly become members of BAP-SBP, Gregorio said they can join as long as they have a league. “If they are part of a league,then they can be a stakeholder,” Gregorio said. (MCB)

bigfreeze_bibby
01-14-2008, 08:48 AM
Nakakatawa namang isipin that the reason is lack of membership that's why other schools still support and join BAP sanctioned activities. I don't think there will be a problem as far as membership is concerned. Dapat nga gawing automatic na kaagad ang membership since the country only has and should consider only one basketball body which is the BAP-SBP.

oca
01-14-2008, 09:03 AM
On schools not belonging to any collegiate league.

Since each collegiate league is considered a "qualifier" for the nationals ( the champions/ finalist earning tickets to the nationals), the SBP should come up another qualifier for schools not belonging to any these associations.

As as pointed out by the SWU athletic director, paano nga naman ang mga schools na di miembro ng alin man association...

The SBP cannot just ignore these schools.

The sooner they address this concern, mas mabuti.

thadzonline
01-14-2008, 09:35 AM
ACT actually applied for membership in CeSAFI, a BAP-SBP stakeholder...so papaano nga sila when they were denied membership in a BAP-SBP affiliated league?(although they are also part of VAAA, another BAP-SBP sanctioned tournament). VAAA and CeSAFI pose another question, some member schools of CeSAFI(Cebu only) are also in VAAA(regional coverage). and top teams in VAAA are most likely top teams in CeSAFI

john_paul_manahan
01-16-2008, 10:18 AM
what if they form their own conference?

pooling together the different non-aligned teams, then.

in the US NCAA parlance yan ang mga independents

danny
02-12-2008, 08:44 AM
what if they form their own conference?

pooling together the different non-aligned teams, then.

in the US NCAA parlance yan ang mga independents


Should the schools who joined the current Pichay-led BAP tournament be considered independent by the SBP?

Pichay said he is willing to work with SBP probably with him as head after toppling MVP, I suppose.

amdgc82
02-21-2008, 05:48 AM
http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/02212008/sports03.html

National Collegiate Championship

REGIONAL directors of the BAP-SBP are backing up the creation of the National Collegiate Championship (NCC).

The NCC has appeared to be the BAP-SBP’s program that would pit in one tournament teams in the University Athletic Association of the Philippines (UAAP) and the National Collegiate Athletic Association.

Gregorio said the NCC will be headed by former national coach Joe Lipa and Rey Gamboa. Gamboa has organized the Collegiate Champions League (CCL) but has agreed to stop staging the CCL to give way to the NCC.

“We’re seeing the development of our national association and we’re just in our 10th month.* Imagine what we can do more in the years to come. Sana suportahan ninyo ang lahat ng proyekto ng SBP,” BAP-SBP president Manny V. Pangilinan told the regional directors in a meeting Tuesday night at the Astoria Hotel in Pasig City.

Gregorio said the NCC will carry the slogan “There can only be one.” The winner will receive cash from the federation and, more important, earn the right to represent the country in the World University Games in Serbia in July 2009.

“This is more than the merger. Talagang buhay pa ’yung plano ng SBP na magkaroon ng totoong national collegiate championship and we will institutionalized this one,” said Gregorio.* * * * *

Based on the initial format, the champion teams from all regional tournaments will be seeded along with the top two finishers in the UAAP and NCAA. Gregorio said the tournament will start in May and the national finals will be in November.

Pangilinan has also donated P500,000 to support the programs of the regional directors of BAP-SBP.

“That will be their seed money to complement their programs. Then sila na ang bahalang maghanap ng iba nilang sponsors dahil gusto rin nating maging self-reliant ang ating mga regional directors,” Gregorio added. (With Joel Orellana)

amdgc82
03-13-2008, 06:18 AM
US-style league opens in June (http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/03132008/sports02.html)
By Joel Orellana
Reporter
www.businessmirror.com.ph
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THE Philippine Collegiate Championships (PCC) was formally launched Wednesday, with its organizers setting an ambitious goal of herding 250 squads from all over the country in a single tournament where the last team standing will be declared as the rightful national collegiate champion.

Patterned closely after the US National Collegiate Athletic Association Division I tournament, the PCC will begin eliminations in June. The bracket and championship rounds are set from October to December.

Competition within nine regional areas (RA) culled proportionately from the three different island groups begins the preliminaries:

• Dagupan, Pangasinan and Baguio (RA-1); Pampanga and Bulacan (RA-2); and Quezon and Bicol region (RA-3) make up the Luzon group;

• Iloilo and Bacolod (RA-4); Dumaguete and Bohol (RA-5); and Tacloban, Ormoc and Samar (RA-6) comprise the Visayas bracket; and

• Cagayan de Oro, Iligan, Misamis Oriental and Caraga (RA-7); Davao, Soccsksargen and Maguindanao (RA-8); and Misamis Occidental, Zamboanga cities and provinces (RA-9) round out the Mindanao group.

The top placers in the regionals along with the top finishers in the Manila college leagues will be scattered in four zonal competitions.

In all, 16 teams will be left standing in the bracket rounds.

• The first group will be composed of the champions in the UAAP, CUSA and NAASCU, the NCRAA runner-up, and four zonal representatives.

• The second group will include the champions in the NCAA, Cesafi, and NCRAA/UCAA, the UAAP runner-up and another four teams from the zonals.

The “Sweet 16” tournament will be held from November 23 to December 7.

“The winner here will get the recognition of the [Philippine Olympic Committee] and Fiba as the national collegiate champion of the Philippines,” said Collegiate Champions League chairman Rey Gamboa.

“But the main goal here, aside from winning the title, is to give exposure to players who are in the province. We felt that they will form the pool of the national team in the future,” he added.

The champion will get P0.5 million worth of scholarships and athletic equipment and will represent the country in the Universiade Games in Serbia in 2009.

The runner-up gets P200,000, the third placer P100,000 and the fourth-placer P50,000.

Gamboa and BAP-Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas president Manny V. Pangilinan signed a memorandum of agreement leading to the formation of the P10-million PCC.

Pangilinan, whose Smart Communications is backing the tournament, said the creation of the PCC was part of the Tokyo accord that highlights the importance of a grassroots program.

amdgc82
03-13-2008, 06:27 AM
US NCAA-style league formed (http://www.mb.com.ph/SPRT20080313119330.html)
Tourney envisions one national college champ
By REY LACHICA
www.mb.com.ph

The Philippine Collegiate Championship Games will be more challenging, more exciting and truly a nationwide affair when its 2008 edition formally kicks off this June.

For one, the event patterned after the US NCAA, will have a projected number of 250 schools aside from the champion teams from top colleges nationwide, including the UAAP and NCAA.

This developed yesterday after the organizing Philippine Collegiate Champions League headed by former PBA Chairman Rey Gamboa, formally signed an accord with the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas headed by its President Manny V. Pangilinan and Executive Director Patrick Gregorio.

Now on its eighth year, the event, first organized by multi-titled coach Joe Lipa, will be carrying a new slogan: There Can Only Be One.

Asked to comment on their slogan, Gregorio stressed that there should be only one national champion.

"Isa lang naman dapat ang maging national champion,"said Gregorio.

Also present during the signing of the Memorandum of Agreement were representatives of Solar Sports — the official coveror of the annual tournament won byAteneo last year.

The Eagles, beaten by the La Salle Archers in the UAAP, downed University of Visayas in the finals.

Aside from the R500,000 top prize in the form of scholarship and athletic equipment, this year’s champion will represent the country in the Universiade Games in Serbia next year.

"This is truly a nationwide tournament featuring the best in college basketball," said Pangilinan. "The league will also help expose provincial teams and their players, lalo na ngayon that Metro Manila teams are getting a hard time tapping provincial players because they (provincial teams) would rather hold on to their players."

The elimination is unique this time since it will consist of four levels.

The first of which will have the 250 collegiate teams taking part in their respective mother leagues to determine the top four squads that will represent the nine regional areas — Regional Area 1 (Dagupan, Pangasinan and Baguio), Regional Area 2 (Pampanga and Bulacan), Regional Area 3 (Quezon and Bicol provinces), Regional Area 4 (Iloilo and Bacolod), Regional Area 5 (Dumaguete and Bohol), Regional Area 6 (Tacloban, Ormoc and Samar), Regional Area 7 (Cagayan de Oro, Iligan, Misamis Oriental and CARAGA), Regional Area 8 (Davao, Socsargen andMaguindanao) and Regional Area 9 (Zamboanga (cities and provinces) and Misamis Oriental.

Then the winners from each region will advance to the Zonal Championship where teams will be divided into four divisions.

Zone 1 (North/Central Luzon) is comprised of the winners in Regions 1 and 2, the NCAA fourth placer, runner-up in the South NCAA, a wild card team and the host school, while Zone 2 (South Luzon) will be composed of the Region 3 titlist, South NCAA champion, the UAAP fourth placer, 2 wild card teams and the host school.

The champion of Regions 4, 5 and 6, the CESAFI runner-up, the NCAA third placer and the host make up Zone 3 while top teams in Regions 7, 8 and 9 along with the CESAFI and UAAP 3rd placer and the host are the squads representing Zone 4.

The top two teams from each zone will then join the eight seeded teams to the "Sweet Sixteen" to be played from Nov. 23 to Dec. 7.

The UAAP and NCAA champions and runners-up and the best teams from CUSA, CESAFI, NAASCU and NCRAA/UCAA are the seeded entries in the knockout stage.

amdgc82
03-13-2008, 06:33 AM
250 teams eyed in national collegiate tilt (http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Sports&p=49&type=2&sec=30&aid=20080312128)
By Nelson Beltran
Thursday, March 13, 2008
www.philstar.com

The Philippine Collegiate Championship has become a national championship in scope with a projected 250 schools from across the country vying for the crown.

The organizing Philippine Collegiate Champions League headed by Rey Gamboa and the BAP-Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas under president Manny Pangilinan formalized a tie-up yesterday for the staging of the event starting with regional eliminations in the second quarter of the year and culminating with the national finale in December.

“This is now a truly nationwide tournament featuring the best in college basketball. The league will also help expose provincial teams and their players. It’s a good opportunity for them specially now that Metro Manila teams are getting a hard time tapping provincial players because these (provincial teams) would rather hold on to their players,” said Pangilinan.

The tourney’s forerunner was the Champions League which was the brainchild of former national coach Joe Lipa.

But the Philippine Collegiate Championship has become bigger and better with the tourney getting all-out support from the national cage body.

Unable to achieve its original goal of merging the UAAP and the NCAA, the SBP instead pushed for the improvement of the Champions League.

A total of P500,000 grant in the form of scholarship and athletic equipment plus the right to represent the country in the Universiade Games in Serbia next year are put at stake in the event, adopting the theme: “There can only be one.”

The road to the finals consists of four levels, the first of which will have the 250 collegiate teams competing in their respective mother leagues to determine the top four squads that will represent the nine regional areas – Regional Area 1 (Dagupan, Pangasinan and Baguio), Regional Area 2 (Pampanga and Bulacan), Regional Area 3 (Quezon and Bicol provinces), Regional Area 4 (Iloilo and Bacolod), Regional Area 5 (Dumaguete and Bohol), Regional Area 6 (Tacloban, Ormoc and Samar), Regional Area 7 (Cagayan de Oro, Iligan, Misamis Oriental and CARAGA), Regional Area 8 (Davao, Socsargen and Maguindanao) and Regional Area 9 (Zamboanga and Misamis Oriental.

The two teams from each zone will join the eight seeded teams to the “Sweet Sixteen” to be played from Nov. 23 to Dec. 7. The UAAP champion and runner-up together with its NCAA counterparts, and the best teams from CUSA, CESAFI, NAASCU and NCRAA/UCAA are the seeded entries in the knockout stage.

“Now teams will not just be contended winning the championship in their respective mother leagues because they can look forward to a higher goal like winning the regional, zonal and then aim for the highest, which is the national title,” said Gamboa.

Ateneo beat UST in the national final last year.

amdgc82
03-13-2008, 06:49 AM
P10 million league (http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2008/03/13/sports/p10.million.league.html)
Thursday, March 13, 2008
By Marian C. Baring
Sun.Star Staff Reporter

THE Basketball Association of the Philippines-Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (BAP-SBP) launched an ambitious basketball project aiming to bring together the best teams all over the country and to determine the best among the best.

BAP-SBP officials, led by president Manny Pangilinan, vice chairperson Ricky Vargas and executive director Patrick Gregorio, together with Philippine Collegiate Championship Games (PCCG) project chairman Rey Gamboa led the launching of the PCCG yesterday.

The endeavor, which is national in scope, is expected to gobble up a whooping P10 million budget.

More than 250 collegiate teams from nine regions will take part in the competition that involves more than 5,000 players, coaches and referees competing in a span of seven months before they could make it to the final round in December.

“This is a huge venture for BAP-SBP. But our efforts are not merely to put up a basketball competition, but we are aiming for something deeper,” Gamboa said.

Gamboa said they want the teams to aim not only for a title in their circle but also for for a national crown and gauge their teams’ skills against stronger rivals.

“If they aim higher, it will improve their level of competition,” said Gamboa.

The league also aims to develop and promote collegiate basketball by providing schools participating in various leagues with a broader and competitive environment and appropriate public and media exposure.

“We encourage cross fertilization where we provide exposure for provincial teams to play Manila teams or against teams that are better than the teams within their league,” Gamboa added.

Before, the Philippine Collegiate Champions League only gave slots to the national finals to the winners in some of the country’s major leagues.

This time, it becomes more systematic as everyone, including those that are not members of any league, will have their chances of making it to the national finals.

The first phase of the competition will be regular competition of the different collegiate leagues and in Cebu’s case, the Cebu Schools Athletic Foundation Inc.

The top four from these mother leagues will move on to the regionals. Organizers divided the country into nine regions, grouping provinces according to proximity. The nine regional champions will then play in the zonals, before the final phase.

Apart from the bragging rights, the competition also dangles enormous cash prizes that will have any team work their hearts out to win.

The national champion will get P500,000, while the next three teams will get P200,00, P100,000 and P50,000, respectively. Apart from this, the winners in the regional competition will also get corresponding cash prizes.

“This money should be used by schools in expanding their sports scholarship programs, so that more athletes can get education as well,” Gamboa said.

gameface_one
03-13-2008, 01:18 PM
US NCAA-style league formed

Tourney envisions one national college champ

Rey C. Lachica
mb.com.ph

The Philippine Collegiate Championship Games will be more challenging, more exciting and truly a nationwide affair when its 2008 edition formally kicks off this June.


For one, the event patterned after the US NCAA, will have a projected number of 250 schools aside from the champion teams from top colleges nationwide, including the UAAP and NCAA.

This developed yesterday after the organizing Philippine Collegiate Champions League headed by former PBA Chairman Rey Gamboa, formally signed an accord with the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas headed by its President Manny V. Pangilinan and Executive Director Patrick Gregorio.

Now on its eighth year, the event, first organized by multi-titled coach Joe Lipa, will be carrying a new slogan: There Can Only Be One.

Asked to comment on their slogan, Gregorio stressed that there should be only one national champion.

"Isa lang naman dapat ang maging national champion," said Gregorio.

Also present during the signing of the Memorandum of Agreement were representatives of Solar Sports — the official coveror of the annual tournament won byAteneo last year.

The Eagles, beaten by the La Salle Archers in the UAAP, downed University of Visayas in the finals.

Aside from the R500,000 top prize in the form of scholarship and athletic equipment, this year’s champion will represent the country in the Universiade Games in Serbia next year.

"This is truly a nationwide tournament featuring the best in college basketball," said Pangilinan. "The league will also help expose provincial teams and their players, lalo na ngayon that Metro Manila teams are getting a hard time tapping provincial players because they (provincial teams) would rather hold on to their players."

The elimination is unique this time since it will consist of four levels.

The first of which will have the 250 collegiate teams taking part in their respective mother leagues to determine the top four squads that will represent the nine regional areas — Regional Area 1 (Dagupan, Pangasinan and Baguio), Regional Area 2 (Pampanga and Bulacan), Regional Area 3 (Quezon and Bicol provinces), Regional Area 4 (Iloilo and Bacolod), Regional Area 5 (Dumaguete and Bohol), Regional Area 6 (Tacloban, Ormoc and Samar), Regional Area 7 (Cagayan de Oro, Iligan, Misamis Oriental and CARAGA), Regional Area 8 (Davao, Socsargen and Maguindanao) and Regional Area 9 (Zamboanga (cities and provinces) and Misamis Oriental.

Then the winners from each region will advance to the Zonal Championship where teams will be divided into four divisions.

Zone 1 (North/Central Luzon) is comprised of the winners in Regions 1 and 2, the NCAA fourth placer, runner-up in the South NCAA, a wild card team and the host school, while Zone 2 (South Luzon) will be composed of the Region 3 titlist, South NCAA champion, the UAAP fourth placer, 2 wild card teams and the host school.

The champion of Regions 4, 5 and 6, the CESAFI runner-up, the NCAA third placer and the host make up Zone 3 while top teams in Regions 7, 8 and 9 along with the CESAFI and UAAP 3rd placer and the host are the squads representing Zone 4.

The top two teams from each zone will then join the eight seeded teams to the "Sweet Sixteen" to be played from Nov. 23 to Dec. 7.

The UAAP and NCAA champions and runners-up and the best teams from CUSA, CESAFI, NAASCU and NCRAA/UCAA are the seeded entries in the knockout stage.

coreytaylor
03-13-2008, 02:17 PM
maganda to. i hope this pushes through.

bigfreeze_bibby
03-13-2008, 03:19 PM
Mas maganda na format. Yung champions of the respective leagues lang yung magkakaroon ng advantage. Mas magandang tignan dyan ngayon yung selection criteria sa pagpili ng wildcard entries.

abcdef
03-13-2008, 04:52 PM
Sana mapataob na nito yung walang mga kwentang plano ni Pichay which is different from the vision of Philippine Basketball.

amdgc82
03-13-2008, 09:21 PM
BAP-SBP launches P10M RP Collegiate Championship Games (http://sports.inquirer.net/cdnsports/cdnsports/view/20080313-124449/BAP-SBP-launches-P10M-RP-Collegiate-Championship-Games)
Cebu Daily News
First Posted 12:01:00 03/13/2008

“There can only be one.”

This is the battlecry of the the BAP-Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (BAP-SBP) led by its president Manny V. Pangilinan along with executive director Patrick Gregorio and vice-chairman Rey Gamboa, after launching one of their flagship programs yesterday, the 1st Philippine Collegiate Championship Games.

The P10M basketball project which is slated to start with the regional qualifiers in June, will pit over 250 squads from nine different regions with 5,000 players and coaches in a virtual dogfight for the honor of being the nation's best collegiate basketball squad.

After the regionals, the Zonals will follow in September with the winners advancing to the “Sweet 16” in November until the championships on December 7.

According to Gregorio, the Visayas qualifiers will be done in a tie-up with the Cebu Schools Athletic Foundation Inc. (Cesafi) along with the board and the different member schools. “At the end of the day, our constituents are the different school leagues such as the UAAP, NCAA and the Cesafi. This is the value of the federation and we will continue to reach out to all these schools,” said Gregorio in an interview yesterday.

Asked about the status of the different Cesafi teams which competed in the recently concluded National Schools Basketball Championships, which was organized by rival faction, Basketball Association of the Philippines (BAP), Gregorio said that he will leave that matter up to the league to decide. /Correspondent Jonas Panerio

amdgc82
03-14-2008, 07:12 AM
3 schools in limbo (http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2008/03/14/sports/3.schools.in.limbo.html)
Friday, March 14, 2008
www.sunstar.com.ph

AFTER several foiled attempts at winning a national title, bemedalled powerhouse team University of the Visayas’ hopes hit another snag.

Last Wednesday, the national governing body for basketball, Basketball Association of the Philippines-Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (BAP-SBP) launched the first Philippine Collegiate Championship Games, the successor of the Philippine Collegiate Champion’s League, where UV was the 2007 runnerup.

The PCCG is national in scope and all schools from all over the country will be getting equal chances of taking the title.

In Cesafi, the scales are still tipped in favor of the Green Lancers, who will most likely win the title for 2008, their eighth straight. This could have given them an automatic slot to the national finals, without having to go through the hassles of the zonals and regional competitions.

However, UV is in hot water after going against the direct order from BAP-SBP forbidding them from joining a competition that was not sanctioned by the organization.

BAP-SBP issued a stern warning on UV that if it pushes through with joining the BAP-organized National Schools Basketball Championships, it would suffer consequences, one of which will be their banishment from joining BAP-SBP-sanctioned competitions.

UV joined the NSBC and eventually lost the title to Southwestern University (SWU).

BAP-SBP executive director Patrick Gregorio, who gave the warning, said that they will be reviewing the case before deciding on UV’s status.

Review

“We will be reviewing it and discuss it when we will be meeting with the Cesafi board,” Gregorio said.

Joining the NSBC risked UV’s stature with BAP-SBP. They gave their all to win a national title, but they wound up losing to a younger SWU.

Other than SWU and UV, another member of Cesafi who joined NSBC and will be facing whatever sanctions UV and SWU will get is the University of San Carlos.

UV, however, is undaunted.

Determined to win its very first national title, UV head coach Elmer “Boy” Cabahug said that he is depending on the organizers to allow them to join.

“If we will be the champion (of Cesafi), then we have the right to be present in the nationals. If they will not invite us, it is still okay. But this will all be up to the management or owner if we will join or not,” Cabahug said. (MCB)

Joescoundrel
03-14-2008, 04:51 PM
BAP-SBP Launch Philippine Collegiate Championship



A genuine national collegiate basketball tournament has just taken the first step towards full realization. BAP-Samahang Basketbol Ng Pilipinas, the country’s official FIBA-recognized governing body, has officially launched the Philippine Collegiate Championship.

In a simple signing ceremony at the PLDT Headquarters in Makati City, Manuel V Pangilinan, SBP President, and Rey Gamboa, National Collegiate Champions League Commissioner, formalized the partnership that they hope will usher in a new era for college basketball in the country. Also present at the signing were SBP Executive Director Patrick Gregorio, Ricky Vargas of the PBA, and SBP executive and the RP Women’s Team Program Director Fritz Gaston.

“This is a big boost to basketball in our country. Hundreds of undiscovered players, teams and leagues will be featured under this program,” declared Gamboa. “We want the teams and players to look beyond their mother leagues and see the PCC as the one, true national championship,” he added.

Aside from the prestige of being crowned national champion, schools can also look forward to scholarships and other grants stemming from the PCC. The grants will be a big incentive especially for schools with limited funds for sports development.

There is also the all-important recognition by FIBA: the PCC Champion will be the Philippines’ national collegiate basketball champion and will compete in all FIBA-sanctioned college basketball tournaments the world over. The first PCC Champion will represent the country to the 2009 Universiade Games to be held in Serbia, apart from getting P500, 000 in grants. The Universiade brings together the top school teams and athletes from around the world in a competition similar to the Olympics.

Over 250 teams from nine regional areas nationwide will compete in over 40 venues, including the two leading Metro Manila leagues, the UAAP and the NCAA. There will be a couple of levels of competition including regional and zonal championships to determine which teams will go on to the national level championships. Even the champions of smaller leagues such as the Fr Martin Cup and other developmental tournaments could be considered for slots. The top teams will then slug it out in a “losers go home” Sweet 16 round all the way to a Final 4 until a Champion emerges, similar to the US NCAA National Tournament format.

Other awards including Most Valuable Player and Mythical Team members will also be given.

BTV will be providing television coverage of selected games of all competing schools. “We are looking to provide as much exposure and coverage to all the teams, especially the provincial tams,” said BTV Executive and media personality Jude “Kaboom” Turcuato, who was also present during the signing.

“With this format we are looking to encourage teams and players from the provinces to play their best and develop their programs,” said Gamboa.

amdgc82
03-14-2008, 05:01 PM
A big boost for collegiate basketball (http://philstar.com/index.php?Business&p=49&type=2&sec=27&aid=2008031321)
BIZLINKS By Rey Gamboa
Friday, March 14, 2008
http://philstar.com

Let me dwell again with one of my loves in life – basketball, particularly collegiate basketball.

Taking off from the success of the Collegiate Champions League, which was relaunched in 2001, is a wider, more grassroots-based search for the foremost collegiate basketball squad in the land. Again, it goes without saying that the theme continues: There can only be one!

Recently, the Philippine Collegiate Champions’ League (PCCL) – which has been organizing inter-collegiate basketball tournaments among teams from Luzon, Visayas and Mindanao – joined hands with the BAP-Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (BAP-SBP) in a bid to further strengthen the collegiate basketball landscape thru a nationwide school-based competition.

The BAP-SBP and PCCL are piecing together a more extensive and comprehensive multi-level basketball league. To be called the Philippine Collegiate Championship Games, the ultimate aim is to further widen the base of competition nationwide to determine which team ultimately should deserve the title of Philippine Collegiate basketball champion.

The template for this nationwide search for the best collegiate team adopted by PCCL has put in place local, regional and zonal level competitions in key cities and provinces to ensure that more collegiate squads are given the opportunity to show their mettle not just within the confines of their respective “mother leagues” but also across provincial and regional borders.


The road to the national championship
For this nationwide competition, the country is divided into nine regional areas. In the first level, teams from existing collegiate leagues within each regional area will do battle, with the top four survivors advancing to the second level or the regional area championship.

The four qualifiers from the first level will clash to determine the regional area champion that will represent the area in the zonal championship, which is the third level in the road towards the national championship.

In the zonals, the regional area champions will be joined by other teams from major leagues in Metro-Manila such as the third and fourth placers of the UAAP, NCAA, South NCAA Champion and runner-up and also by “wild card entries,” or teams that rank well considering their performance in their respective “mother leagues” and in invitational tournaments such as the Fr. Martin, FilOil Flying V Pre-Season, etc.

Two teams from each zone will advance to be the top eight survivors of the zonal competitions, and will then join the eight seeded teams, namely the champions and runner-ups of the NCAA and UAAP, and the champions of major leagues such as CESAFI (Cebu), CUSA, NAASCU and NCRAA/UCAA, to slug it out in the now familiar Sweet Sixteen format.


Truly a nationwide league
In developing a league with a broadened scope to crown a truly national collegiate champion, more teams are given an avenue to look beyond their borders.

This way therefore, whoever grabs the national title for the season can truly claim to have survived the tough road to the championship competing with the best teams that other provinces and regions have to offer.


Cross fertilization of skills
The format of the Philippine Collegiate Championship allows competitive but relatively unknown teams that are not in the media limelight to pit skills with the glamorous and media-hyped teams from Metro Manila. For sure, Manila-based cagers could learn a thing or two from their provincial rivals and vice-versa. Call it a basketball transfer of technology or skills.

The PCC games are fitting gauge of a team’s strength and skills, or its ability to measure up to the challenge of other rivals beyond their usual borders. Collegiate team players are encouraged to aim higher to not only be their league’s champion, but even a national collegiate champion – a Champion of Champions.

Good players can only get better when ranged against tougher opponents, which is what the league is after. Faced with must-win situations in each game, the league also reinforces the need for players and their teams to be ready and all-out for each battle, giving no space for slacking off. This is a guarantee for hard-fought matches each time.

The PCC games also encourage schools to put in place a solid sports development program given the opportunities for a broader competitive environment and more extensive public and media exposure.


Beyond archipelagic borders
Prizes at stake for the top four teams in the Finals include P500,000 grant for scholarship and athletic facilities for the Philippine champion. The runner-up along with the third and fourth placers would receive a generous package of P200,000, P100,000 and P50,000, respectively, of scholarships and equipment grants as well.

Other than the material rewards and adulation of the local basketball community, the eventual Philippine Collegiate champion will be fully recognized by FIBA, and will therefore get an opportunity to carry the national tri-color at FIBA-sanctioned international competitions such as the Universiade Games in Serbia in 2009.

Organized by the International University Sports Federation, Universiade is a multi-sport event participated in by university students worldwide. It is also more commonly known as the World Student or World University Games.


Rivalries revisited
As a possible offshoot of the forthcoming Philippine Collegiate Championship, basketball fans may look forward to the resumption of furious collegiate basketball rivalries that in the past awoke furious passions and undying loyalties.

Old-timers will agree that even before the now-fabled Ateneo-La Salle rivalry, there was the intensely notorious Ateneo-San Beda duel which resulted in many dramatic and thrilling episodes on and off the court.

And what about the bigger rivalry between Cebu and the so called Imperial Manila? While many southern stars are recruited and find their way to Metro Manila-based schools, it’s a different thing altogether when a pure Visayan collegiate squad squares off with Manila-based opponents.

These are rivalries that not only improve the skills of players but likewise bring unforgettable thrills to the Filipino basketball fan, who truly has made what Philippine basketball is today.

Should you wish to share any insights, write me at Link Edge, 25th Floor, 139 Corporate Center, Valero Street, Salcedo Village, 1227 Makati City. Or e-mail me at reydgamboa@yahoo.com.

john_paul_manahan
03-14-2008, 08:24 PM
3 schools in limbo (http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2008/03/14/sports/3.schools.in.limbo.html)
Friday, March 14, 2008
www.sunstar.com.ph

AFTER several foiled attempts at winning a national title, bemedalled powerhouse team University of the Visayas’ hopes hit another snag.

Last Wednesday, the national governing body for basketball, Basketball Association of the Philippines-Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (BAP-SBP) launched the first Philippine Collegiate Championship Games, the successor of the Philippine Collegiate Champion’s League, where UV was the 2007 runnerup.

The PCCG is national in scope and all schools from all over the country will be getting equal chances of taking the title.

In Cesafi, the scales are still tipped in favor of the Green Lancers, who will most likely win the title for 2008, their eighth straight. This could have given them an automatic slot to the national finals, without having to go through the hassles of the zonals and regional competitions.

However, UV is in hot water after going against the direct order from BAP-SBP forbidding them from joining a competition that was not sanctioned by the organization.

BAP-SBP issued a stern warning on UV that if it pushes through with joining the BAP-organized National Schools Basketball Championships, it would suffer consequences, one of which will be their banishment from joining BAP-SBP-sanctioned competitions.

UV joined the NSBC and eventually lost the title to Southwestern University (SWU).

BAP-SBP executive director Patrick Gregorio, who gave the warning, said that they will be reviewing the case before deciding on UV’s status.

Review

“We will be reviewing it and discuss it when we will be meeting with the Cesafi board,” Gregorio said.

Joining the NSBC risked UV’s stature with BAP-SBP. They gave their all to win a national title, but they wound up losing to a younger SWU.

Other than SWU and UV, another member of Cesafi who joined NSBC and will be facing whatever sanctions UV and SWU will get is the University of San Carlos.

UV, however, is undaunted.

Determined to win its very first national title, UV head coach Elmer “Boy” Cabahug said that he is depending on the organizers to allow them to join.

“If we will be the champion (of Cesafi), then we have the right to be present in the nationals. If they will not invite us, it is still okay. But this will all be up to the management or owner if we will join or not,” Cabahug said. (MCB)


based from the related thread to this... given that they were able to secure MVP's consent, i think this is pretty much a non-issue. :p

Dark Knight
03-15-2008, 06:40 PM
Champs and runners up from NCAA and UAAP are automatic qualifiers in the sweet 16.

Talk about "palakasan"... ;D

abcdef
03-15-2008, 07:27 PM
Champs and runners up from NCAA and UAAP are automatic qualifiers in the sweet 16.

Talk about "palakasan"... ;D



Di naman. . . . With the level of competition in those leagues . . . .It is definitely way above average.

thadzonline
03-15-2008, 08:05 PM
seeded naman yata ang CeSAFI champs ah

oca
03-17-2008, 08:59 AM
The fact is, outside of NCR, only UV of Cebu has consistently played at par vs UAAP and NCAA schools. Also the UAAP and NCAA schools have consistently barged into the final 8 en masse. Laging merong 4 to 6 schools from these leagues ang pumapasok sa last 8.

Malinaw na malakas ang mga koponan ng UAAP at NCAA. Rightfully, they deserve to be given more outright spots.

At tama lang na ang champion ng Cesafi ay seeded. Kung may non-NCR teams na inggit, well, they just have to win oncourt to prove they deserve a better seeding.

Pero may isyu ako sa mga naunang press release on the Nationals.

How do you make way for the participation of schools not belonging to any of these leagues?

Take the case of Cebu province.

Not all universities are members of Cesafi. But it is this league w/c has been designated as the affiliate and will serves as the qualifier, where, as stated the champion advances to the Sweet 16.

Paano kung HINDI ako miembro ng Cesafi? Paano ako lalahok?

Taken in the light of recent events,* some Cesafi members went against the will of the SBP by joining the BAPs version of the Nationals. Pero may mga non-Cesafi members din naman who are not supportive of the old BAP to begin with. Shouldn't they be deserving of a better treatment from the SBP?

Isipin niyo......

thadzonline
03-17-2008, 10:06 AM
ang problema kasi pareng oca is minsan even in the SBP organization, different personalities give out contrasting signals..take the case for example of UV's participation in the recent NSBC...apparently they got the go-ahead of MVP before a memo prohibiting them from joining was issued...second point, hindi naman siguro problema ang participation ng CeSAFI teams kasi po wala namang ibang tournament na in conflict sa schedules(except if we talk about principled loyalty--hindi naman po yata tama to say that because one school has joined the NSBC, it would suffice to say that they are not supportive of BAP-SBP in favor of BAP). The Cebu teams just took a rare opportunity that is not given to them on a regualr basis and that is to compete with school teams outside of Cebu. Had the competition been in another city, I am sure many Cebu teams would have backed out. Third point, even the CeSAFI is not so welcoming of other members, balita ko 2 schools who applied for membership have been declined. One of those schools should at least be quality competition, I'd say one of the top 6 school teams in Cebu.

oca
03-17-2008, 11:31 AM
Maayong buntag, thadz'.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts and what you know of what went on relative to the NSBC.

Politics aside, there is still a question of how does a school who is not a member of the "local school league" can join the qualifiers. I pointed out Cebu because I know there are a lot of schools there. Definitely more than the roster members of the Cesafi.

But it is a prinipled question that will apply to every Region.

Alam ko matagal pa ang event na ito. But if the question is raised in June, it may be late to consider the participation of these schools.

Maybe I just think too much of what is ideal. But I just can't read these press releases without commenting or asking questions.

Marami pa nga akong tanong and in as much as I want to send an email to Mr. Gamboa, I believe asking it here publicly is better. I will ask another question in a separate post.

oca
03-17-2008, 12:00 PM
After asking how can schools not belonging to local school leagues can participate, another question I wish to ask concerns this ----

Base on the press release, I have drawn a chart of the qualifiers- From the city/ provincial to regional. From there the competition moves to what they call Zone, or Zonal. There are four Zones. Each zonal qualifier will have 6 teams with two to advance to the next level and join 8 seeded teams to complete the Sweet 16.

Take note of this - the UAAP and NCAA 3rd and 4th placers are not seeded to the Sweet 16. Not this time. These 4 schools will participate in the Zonals.

NCAA 4th placer will be in Z1, UAAP 4th placer in Z2, NCAA 3rd placer in Z3, and UAAP 3rd placer in Z4. These Zonal events are "local events with respect to the other qualifiers". But, obviously, not to the NCAA and UAAP losing semifinalists.

Now, Zone 3 is the Visayas region. Zone 4 is Mindanao.

Do the organizers expect the NCAA and UAAP 3rd placers to allocate funds for the participation of their teams to these zonal qualifiers?

Get the figures for a round trip ticket to Visayas and Mindanao, multiply that by 20 ( 15 players plus coaches and staff) you can imagine the expense this would entail. Hindi pa kasama accomodations.

I seriously doubt if these schools will be willing to make that expenditure. Kaya sa palagay ko, the UAAP and NCAA losing semifinalists assigned to Z3 and Z4 now have a ready made excuse not to participate.

thadzonline
03-17-2008, 12:15 PM
maayong buntag sad pareng oca...accommodations alone could cost as much as 15k pesos per day for a 15-member delegation kaya I find that concern valid except if you really have a big name sponsor for your team. And I feel na bias din ang gagawing qualifier na ang losing semifinalists ng UAAP and NCAA ay ilalahok sa zonals ng hindi nila area..I think the keyword here is "representation", kasi nga po in the event that mananalo ang UAAP/NCAA teams sa Zonal assignments nila, parang nagmukha lang po tayong tanga staging a national tournament while having half the teams come from UAAP/NCAA. If we are serious about developing competitiveness at a national scope, we should give the provincial teams the opportunity to play at a higher level. Given that the UAAP/NCAA is a competitive level, hindi naman mawawala iyon eh, as long as they keep joining the UAAP/NCAA which is their qualifier to the national c'ships. Malay natin, some provincial teams could even pull off a few good surprises.

Joescoundrel
03-17-2008, 12:29 PM
Related to Oca's questions: during the MOA signing I asked Rey Gamboa the following ___

1. Some schools send their Team A to the UAAP/NCAA and their Team B to the FMC. Suppose a school's Team A wins the UAAP championship and its Team B wins the FMC, will we see two teams from the same school in the PCC?

Answer: No. In this case only the UAAP champion will represent that school in the PCC.

2. Some schools compete in two tournaments, such as EAC in both the NCRAA and the UCAA. If a school wins both tournaments - as EAC has done the last couple years - will they represent both leagues?

Answer: No. They can only represent one league, with the runnerup school in the other league representing said league, i.e. EAC wins both but chooses to represent the UCAA, St Francis may represent NCRAA.

3. Some UAAP and NCAA schools win in the off-season tournaments such as the HAIL and Fil-Oil - like Lasalle did last year. Will they represent both tournaments in the PCC? What if they also win the UAAP title?

Answer: No. Lasalle in this case will represent the UAAP, the second placers of HAIL and Fil-Oil will represent those tournaments. If the same school wound up second place to Lasalle in both tournaments they can only represent one, with the third placer in the other tournament representing that other tournament.

Please note that all of the answers given by Mr Gamboa were as of a general rule, to which I assume some exceptions will be taken.

I can already foresee for instance the likes of UE, FEU, Letran, San Beda aside from Ateneo and Lasalle as "rotating" just among themselves who will be off-season champions in the HAIL, Nike, Fil-Oil and FMC this summer. I shudder to think what will happen if we get the same champions, secod placers, third placers, ad infinitum.

One other thing: the champions of these off-season tournaments are not actually given "guaranteed" slots in the PCC but will be "considered" most likely as "wild card entries" based on how they did in these tournaments.

I think the SBP was thinking more along the lines of how a team like say EAC, Lyceum or Arellano will stack up against fellow Metro Manila teams. Lyceum and Arellano send their regular teams to the FMC and HAIL, while EAC sends its Team A to HAIL and its B to FMC.

oca
03-17-2008, 01:00 PM
maayong buntag sad pareng oca...accommodations alone could cost as much as 15k pesos per day for a 15-member delegation kaya I find that concern valid except if you really have a big name sponsor for your team. And I feel na bias din ang gagawing qualifier na ang losing semifinalists ng UAAP and NCAA ay ilalahok sa zonals ng hindi nila area..I think the keyword here is "representation", kasi nga po in the event that mananalo ang UAAP/NCAA teams sa Zonal assignments nila, parang nagmukha lang po tayong tanga staging a national tournament while having half the teams come from UAAP/NCAA. If we are serious about developing competitiveness at a national scope, we should give the provincial teams the opportunity to play at a higher level. Given that the UAAP/NCAA is a competitive level, hindi naman mawawala iyon eh, as long as they keep joining the UAAP/NCAA which is their qualifier to the national c'ships. Malay natin, some provincial teams could even pull off a few good surprises.


I had wanted to say in my post that assigning UAAP and NCAA schools to zonal qualifiers is outright wrong for the same reason that you stated. But I opted not to clutter that particular post with one too many personal opinions.

Imo, it would be better to have the UAAP and NCAA losing semifinalists go through a wild card qualifer against losing finalists from other NCR leagues, to include hardcore teams in NCR who are not member of any school league.* Get some local scribes to rank these non-champion teams and let them go through a KO process ala sweet 16. It would not entail much expense for them to play anywhere here in Manila. If they decline to participate, so be it. They are "losers" anyway ;D.

That sixth spot in the zonal should then be given to another "local widlcard entry". Yes, I agree, there should be more participation by more "provincial schools". In the long run, lahat tayo makikinabang. Of course, this early years, maraming tambakan dyan.

I think, this early, we here at gameface shoudld be asking questions and share opinions. No one has monopoly of ideas. I am sure, those in the organization itself are reading all these. Kahit papaano, they'll find some ounce of wisdom from us here.

amdgc82
03-17-2008, 01:20 PM
More views about basketball (http://philstar.com/index.php?Business&p=49&type=2&sec=27&aid=2008031669)
BIZLINKS By Rey Gamboa
Monday, March 17, 2008

There were several reactions to my column last Friday (A big boost for collegiate basketball). Let me share a discussion with someone who spent more than 30 years of his life immersed with the intricacies of the game. I’m referring to Coach Joe Lipa.

Joe Lipa remains one of the more ardent personalities in Philippine basketball, relentless in his desire to improve the current state of the* sport for the sake of its players, coaches, referees, the Filipino fans* and even the nation’s glory.

He can talk non-stop about the game, which is what exactly happened when we made a land trip together to one of those out-of-town meetings in connection with the launching of the Philippine Collegiate Championship, a nationwide tournament being organized by the Philippine Collegiate champions League in partnershipwith BAP-SBP.

While Joe appreciates the resolution of the FIBA sanction on the Basketball Association of the Philippines last year with the timely formation of the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas, and the subsequent merger with the BAP (hence, the SBP-BAP), a lot still needs to be done towards improving the state of basketball play in the country.

First on Joe’s agenda is the improved performance of the Philippines in international competitions and events. How long ago has it been when our cagers where regarded with awe and fear by basketball teams from neighboring countries? Too long ago.

It goes without saying that those involved in Philippine basketball have expressed a desire to have many long-standing problems, some even so basic as availability of playing venues, to be resolved.

For example, how long have the conflicts when forming a National Team been festering? Over the years, the tug of war over players, coaches and team staff between mother teams and the concerned national basketball body continues. Is this ever going to be resolved?

Corollary to this, Joe feels that there is urgent need to rationalize the country’s basketball calendar in synch with FIBA competitions. Conflicts continue to exist among member leagues’ schedules, something that should not be a problem if only people would talk and set aside personal (or whatever) motives.

The present regional directors’ roles could also be enhanced, and their contribution tolocal basketball be evaluated in measurable terms.

Most of these local guys are sincere and committed, and just need a unified and coordinated program. They also need help in terms of skirting political interests.

Strengthen existing student leagues Joe and I are totally in agreement when it comes to strengthening grassroots leagues – and even expanding and adding more of them. One of the persisting problems is the uneven development of school leagues and school teams. Many schools are hardlyable to form just one competitive team while some others have stables large enough to accommodate two, even three good teams.

There is widespread migration of student players, contributing to the lopsided formation of teams in schools. Of course, schools with better resources are able to attract all the budding basketball athletes that they want, and this has provento be a hindrance to creation of a competitive and healthy environment essential for proper development of players.

Again, this is a problem that has been staring the face of our school sports administrators for the longest time, but has so far not found a champion who would find a suitable solution to the problem.

With the high cost of maintaining a school basketball program, no wonder that many are not able to participate in more games, something that is extremely important in thecontinued strengthening of the teams.


Commercial and professional leagues
While the country now is able to count a growing number of active commercial leagues, i.e., the Philippine Basketball League, the Mindanao-Visayas Basketball league, Partners Cup, etc., the opportunity to further strengthen them through integration and cooperation should be seriously studied, observed Joe.

On the professional level, very few people will disagree with the prevailing observation that the Philippine Basketball Association (PBA) needs some serious adrenaline shots.

Joe has this suggestion to explore the idea of an Asian-Pro basketball league, a concept first discussed in the ’90s by American congressman Ralph Harding. Incidentally, FIBA-Asia has started in motion some projects leading to the creation of an Asian-Pro.

This should help speed up another idea of Joe’s* — a player-exchange program with other Asian countries. We have become too dependent on expensive American imports that do not seem to be lifting the PBA hardcourt’s playing sizzle.


Don’t forget the coaches and referees
I am reserving my last paragraphs in today’s column on the need to improve the mettle for our coaches and referees, something that Joe is infinitely more passionate about.

He likes to repeat over and over again that there are many coaches but only a few can teach the game. Many Filipino coaches are influenced by Western basketballphilosophies, something that is now becoming recognized as in appropriate largely because of the Filipino’s difference in height and heft.

We need to seriously develop our own mantra for successful basketball play given the physical attributes of our basketball players. Our coaches should be regarded as specialists in sports science with ample knowledge of human kinetics, particularly that of the Filipino body.

Lastly, there is a big room for the improvement of basketball officiating, particularly in the grassroots level. There are so many officiating groups, with their own ways of interpreting and implementing FIBA rules.

Again, this is something that could be easily resolved once the programs initiated by BAP-SBP aimed at upgrading the local referees’ skills level are in full swing.

All the above problems beg for attention. Our SBP-BAP leadership has it hands full and needs all the support from those who love the game; squabbling and divisiveness definitely will not help get the job done.

Should you wish to share any insights, write me at Link Edge, 25th Floor, 139 Corporate Center, Valero Street, Salcedo Village, 1227 Makati City. Or e-mail me at reydgamboa@yahoo.com.

thadzonline
03-17-2008, 05:10 PM
Related to Oca's questions: during the MOA signing I asked Rey Gamboa the following ___

1. Some schools send their Team A to the UAAP/NCAA and their Team B to the FMC. Suppose a school's Team A wins the UAAP championship and its Team B wins the FMC, will we see two teams from the same school in the PCC?

Answer: No. In this case only the UAAP champion will represent that school in the PCC.

2. Some schools compete in two tournaments, such as EAC in both the NCRAA and the UCAA. If a school wins both tournaments - as EAC has done the last couple years - will they represent both leagues?

Answer: No. They can only represent one league, with the runnerup school in the other league representing said league, i.e. EAC wins both but chooses to represent the UCAA, St Francis may represent NCRAA.

3. Some UAAP and NCAA schools win in the off-season tournaments such as the HAIL and Fil-Oil - like Lasalle did last year. Will they represent both tournaments in the PCC? What if they also win the UAAP title?

Answer: No. Lasalle in this case will represent the UAAP, the second placers of HAIL and Fil-Oil will represent those tournaments. If the same school wound up second place to Lasalle in both tournaments they can only represent one, with the third placer in the other tournament representing that other tournament.

Please note that all of the answers given by Mr Gamboa were as of a general rule, to which I assume some exceptions will be taken.

I can already foresee for instance the likes of UE, FEU, Letran, San Beda aside from Ateneo and Lasalle as "rotating" just among themselves who will be off-season champions in the HAIL, Nike, Fil-Oil and FMC this summer. I shudder to think what will happen if we get the same champions, secod placers, third placers, ad infinitum.

One other thing: the champions of these off-season tournaments are not actually given "guaranteed" slots in the PCC but will be "considered" most likely as "wild card entries" based on how they did in these tournaments.

I think the SBP was thinking more along the lines of how a team like say EAC, Lyceum or Arellano will stack up against fellow Metro Manila teams. Lyceum and Arellano send their regular teams to the FMC and HAIL, while EAC sends its Team A to HAIL and its B to FMC.

I share the same apprehension..kung ang champs ng HAIL, FMC, Fil-oil and other off-season leagues in Manila are given a chance to participate in qualifying tournaments, it should be the same for the provinces, take for example the case of Cebu: La Fortuna Cup, VAAA, CeSAFI which somehow have a lot of similarities to the Manila leagues(e.g. CeSAFI and VAAA are in themselves major leagues independent of each other with VAAA covering a larger geographical scope and some teams joining both leagues while the La Fortuna Cup is a 2-year old tournament much like the off season tournaments in Manila)...slots should then also be given to champions of the VAAA and La Fortuna?

Methinks, the most practical way is just to give slots to the winners of the major leagues(e.g. UAAP, NCAA, CeSAFI--without discrimination to VAAA since some of the areas covered by VAAA have their own leagues) and no longer allocate slots for off-season leagues like FMC, HAIL, Fil-oil and La Fortuna

JonarSabilano
03-17-2008, 05:20 PM
Related to Oca's questions: during the MOA signing I asked Rey Gamboa the following ___

1. Some schools send their Team A to the UAAP/NCAA and their Team B to the FMC. Suppose a school's Team A wins the UAAP championship and its Team B wins the FMC, will we see two teams from the same school in the PCC?

Answer: No. In this case only the UAAP champion will represent that school in the PCC.

2. Some schools compete in two tournaments, such as EAC in both the NCRAA and the UCAA. If a school wins both tournaments - as EAC has done the last couple years - will they represent both leagues?

Answer: No. They can only represent one league, with the runnerup school in the other league representing said league, i.e. EAC wins both but chooses to represent the UCAA, St Francis may represent NCRAA.

3. Some UAAP and NCAA schools win in the off-season tournaments such as the HAIL and Fil-Oil - like Lasalle did last year. Will they represent both tournaments in the PCC? What if they also win the UAAP title?

Answer: No. Lasalle in this case will represent the UAAP, the second placers of HAIL and Fil-Oil will represent those tournaments. If the same school wound up second place to Lasalle in both tournaments they can only represent one, with the third placer in the other tournament representing that other tournament.

Please note that all of the answers given by Mr Gamboa were as of a general rule, to which I assume some exceptions will be taken.

I can already foresee for instance the likes of UE, FEU, Letran, San Beda aside from Ateneo and Lasalle as "rotating" just among themselves who will be off-season champions in the HAIL, Nike, Fil-Oil and FMC this summer. I shudder to think what will happen if we get the same champions, secod placers, third placers, ad infinitum.

One other thing: the champions of these off-season tournaments are not actually given "guaranteed" slots in the PCC but will be "considered" most likely as "wild card entries" based on how they did in these tournaments.

I think the SBP was thinking more along the lines of how a team like say EAC, Lyceum or Arellano will stack up against fellow Metro Manila teams. Lyceum and Arellano send their regular teams to the FMC and HAIL, while EAC sends its Team A to HAIL and its B to FMC.* * *

I share the same apprehension..kung ang champs ng HAIL, FMC, Fil-oil and other off-season leagues in Manila are given a chance to participate in qualifying tournaments, it should be the same for the provinces, take for example the case of Cebu: La Fortuna Cup, VAAA, CeSAFI which somehow have a lot of similarities to the Manila leagues(e.g. CeSAFI and VAAA are in themselves major leagues independent of each other with VAAA covering a larger geographical scope and some teams joining both leagues while the La Fortuna Cup is a 2-year old tournament much like the off season tournaments in Manila)...slots should then also be given to champions of the VAAA and La Fortuna?

Methinks, the most practical way is just to give slots to the winners of the major leagues(e.g. UAAP, NCAA, CeSAFI--without discrimination to VAAA since some of the areas covered by VAAA have their own leagues) and no longer allocate slots for off-season leagues like FMC, HAIL, Fil-oil and La Fortuna


How about including out-of-conference games in the equation, such as last year's Ateneo vs. UV? Unfortunately, the top-tier schools treat it as exhibition games. If the BAP-SBP could somehow include them in their rankings, we'd be a step closer to an NCAA-type tournament and qualifiers.

oca
03-17-2008, 06:51 PM
The NCR teams.

If we are to go by the news reports, champions of the FMC, HAIL, Fil-Oil and other "pre and post events" are NOT given tickets to the PCCG.

As far as outright qualifiers from NCR are concerned, seedings were given to the champions of the ff leagues: UAAP, NCAA, CUSA, NAASCU, NCRAA/UCAA = 5 teams. Losing finalists of UAAP and NCAA = 2 teams, total of 7. Yang 7 na yan ay pasok na sa Sweet 16.

The other 9 teams will come from: Cesafi champion + two from each Zone will advance to complete the Sweet 16 teams.

Let's go back to the "wild cards". Sa Sweet 16, malinaw na walang wild card entry dyan. Ang wildcard ay duon maglalaro sa zonal qualifiers. Though the same reports did not define how the "wild card" teams will be determined, of which there are 3.

Malinaw kung sino ang mga kalahok from NCR. Pero yung magmumula sa Regionals, yan ang walang nasasabi, except for one news report w/c mentioned that existing school leagues in the different provinces will be accredited as qualifiers the same way as the likes of the UAAP, NCAA, and Cesafi are part of the qualifiers. The difference is champions of these provincial school leagues do not automatically advance to the Sweet 16 but will have to go through the Zonals.

It is worth mentioning again, the losing Final Four teams of both the UAAP and NCAA are given spots in the Zonals.

Wala gaanong pag-uusapan sa qualifying process ng teams from NCR and even Cebu. Pero kung hindi NCR at hindi Cebu ang usapin, dyan maraming tanong.

Sam Miguel
03-18-2008, 10:37 AM
I think SBP should bankroll the expenses of any team traveling to play in any other place outside of their own area, especially if it entails plane- or ship rides. They can do this en masse, like say four Metro Manila teams flying to Zamboanga or Bacolod to take on the teams there, or vice versa. Going en masse and using PLDT clout to get group discounts on fares and accommodations can't be that hard. Surely round trip airfare and two nights at a local hotel for say 60 people will not cost more than P1,000,000. PLDT could earn that in what, an hour or two? They don't even have to bankroll everything themselves. They can involve local governments since the SBP is an NSA, or even Congressmen through their pork barrel. This is where we will see what kind of leadership the SBP really has, if they can make things like this happen. Given what the SBP is trying to accomplish, the scale and ambition of it, surely they will not quibble over a few hundred thousand or even a few million here and there.

As to participation, I would give like to know what exactly a "wild card" is to the PCC. I agree with Oca and Thadz that runners-up of the two glamor leagues like the UAAP and NCAA should not be given an automatic berth into the Sweet 16. If those teams want to get into the national tournament and did not win the UAAP or NCAA then perhaps they should still prove their worth by say winning any of the zonals and competing there. Think of it in terms of qualifying for the Olympics. In our part of the world you have to win the FIBA-Asia tournament to get an automatic Olympic berth. If not you go through the lower-level tournaments, kind of like the Tournament of the Americas in the case of the US.

Some of you out there might protest that doing this will only give the Manila schools even more leverage. I doubt it. If the other leagues and schools are truly as good as they think they are then let them have at it. I think for instance that other top programs like UV and West Negros might give lower-tier schools like Adamson and St Benilde a serious beating on any given day.

oca
03-18-2008, 01:12 PM
Post deleted.

Sam Miguel
03-20-2008, 02:56 PM
I posted this on the US NCAA thread but then thought that perhaps since it also deals with student-athletes in general perhaps I should also post it here. One time when I had a conversation with Rey Gamboa he said that in the future the PCC would have standard rules for all participating teams, including eligibility and minimum academic loads, maybe even a minimum grade average. Let's see if this actually produces genuine student athletes.

Hypocrisy 101

By Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports Mar 19, 12:08 am EDT

Down in Florida, Dr. Richard Lapchick rails against the pathetic graduation rates for players who compete in the NCAA tournament – just over 50 percent for African Americans, according to his latest study. It’s far worse when you consider the players on just the good teams.

Up in Ann Arbor, Mich., a stinging four-day newspaper investigation shows that one of college sports supposed academic bastions, Michigan football, might turn out decent graduation numbers but might be doing it by institutionally steering players to easy majors and sympathetic professors. You might get a diploma, but do you get an education?

Out in Omaha, Neb., the NCAA prepares for the first round of its billion dollar men’s basketball tournament with a marquee prime time game featuring two freshmen – Southern California’s O.J. Mayo and Kansas State’s Michael Beasley – who are unlikely to finish the semester, let alone their degrees any time soon.

They are only serving out their college purgatory because back in New York, NBA commissioner David Stern says they have to. If Stern has his way, it’ll soon be two-year college tours for all future phenoms. College administrators will celebrate; keeping the money train going is well worth playing the fool.

Talk about your March Madness – one part playing basketball, one part playing charades.

It isn’t so much that all of the above is happening, it is that over the next three weeks so many people will either pretend it isn’t or ignore that it is. It’s that universities will make small fortunes while bastardizing everything they pay lip service to being about.

Obviously few people care. Most fans just want to watch the action. The diehards convince themselves their school is different. The administrators just want to keep the alums happy. The coaches are rich. The television networks richer.

And too few of the players even grasp the golden educational opportunity handed to them.

All of this would be fine if it weren’t for the endless claims to the contrary, the syrupy coverage of the purity of college sports and the forever apologists when the truth occasionally is exposed.

Remember the feel-good story of the 2002 national champion Maryland Terrapins? Turns out, according to NCAA and federal government stats, none of the starters or top reserves graduated. None. In fact, no recruit brought in from 1997-2000 has graduated. The Terps current graduation rate is zero.

Maryland’s counterargument is some of those guys are playing pro ball, so what does it matter? Indeed, it doesn’t matter. A college degree isn’t everything. If none of the particulars care, why should we?

But “what does it matter” wasn’t what the NCAA was selling the public six years ago. You didn’t hear anyone admit that Maryland won the college title with a bunch of kids unlikely to graduate from college.

So will you believe in the champion this time? Lapchick’s most recent report noted that of the four No. 1 seeds, only North Carolina graduates more than even half its players, which doesn’t exactly reassure you that history won’t repeat itself.

In Maryland’s defense, maybe a zero graduation rate is more respectable and honest than a high one? Michigan football has been held up for decades as an example of integrity with a graduation rate of about 70 percent.

But how much of that was the result of the institutional steering of athletes into easy majors?

Over the past seven months the Ann Arbor News did what too few media outlets will – especially in college towns where publishers and editors are so often compromised by county club relationships. When former Michigan quarterback and current Stanford coach Jim Harbaugh made critical statements about the Wolverines academics rather than just repeat the party line, they took a long, hard look.

The result has been fascinating not because Michigan has been exposed as the worst cheaters in the world. It hasn’t. Rather, the stories have cut open the underbelly of college athletics and showed how things really get done in major college sports.

In this case it means the vast majority of football players appear to be pushed into majoring in “general studies.” That includes 16 of 17 scholarship players in the recent Chad Henne/Mike Hart class.

Michigan athletes make up only three percent of undergraduate students but 49 percent of general studies majors. Athletes used to overwhelm the kinesiology department until 2003, when fed up kinesiology professors decided to strengthen the course work. Immediately the athletes shifted, en masse, to general studies, which the News shows an athlete can easily maintain eligibility through potentially cake courses.

You have to be a myopic Wolverine fan to not acknowledge the truth – this can’t all be a coincidence. It isn’t cause for disbanding the team, but it certainly isn’t what the program claimed to be. That the same thing is happening everywhere (this is quite similar to a recent New York Times exposé of Auburn) is certainly a noteworthy, but not really much of an excuse.

If the Michigan players don’t take advantage of a world-class education then that’s their own fault. But if it’s the academic advisors of the football program betraying them by systematically pushing empty eligibility, then the shame is on U of M too.

But that’s college athletics, one big circle of situational ethics.

So now Thursday we get Mayo and Beasley, their last stop before the NBA draft, the two of them stuck in this netherworld of pretending to really care about attending college.

This isn’t to blame them. They’re just playing the part the system says they must. While we’re sure each found something positive during their brief time on campus, neither would be here if they didn’t have to be.

They are in this tournament because Stern wants the NCAA to market his would-be rookies with saccharine stories from academia, the NCAA wants to make big money off of them regardless of the hypocrisy and CBS is more than willing to placate both parties while selling ads to Chevy.

All the adults will gladly play charades so we can watch these kids play ball.

Dan Wetzel is the co-author of Glory Road, the story of coach Don Haskins and the history-making 1966 Texas Western Miners.

MykelV
03-25-2008, 09:04 AM
BAP-SBP will shoulder the expenses for the traveling teams and for the officiating, However it is the host school or city who will shoulder the board and lodging of teams including the local transportation.

thadzonline
03-25-2008, 09:09 AM
BAP-SBP will shoulder the expenses for the traveling teams and for the officiating, However it is the host school or city who will shoulder the board and lodging of teams including the local transportation.


which many schools may not be able to afford..coach Myke, may PM ako sa yo..

oca
03-25-2008, 02:01 PM
BAP-SBP will shoulder the expenses for the traveling teams and for the officiating, However it is the host school or city who will shoulder the board and lodging of teams including the local transportation.


This being a categorical answer we can assume, sir, you are part of the organization overseeing this event. Or, at the very least, has direct access to the people within. Would you be kind enough to share what you know about the wild card teams?

Specifically,"How are they determined or chosen?"

Maraming salamat, po.

Mateen Cleaves
03-25-2008, 03:54 PM
I can already foresee for instance the likes of UE, FEU, Letran, San Beda aside from Ateneo and Lasalle as "rotating" just among themselves who will be off-season champions in the HAIL, Nike, Fil-Oil and FMC this summer. I shudder to think what will happen if we get the same champions, secod placers, third placers, ad infinitum.

One other thing: the champions of these off-season tournaments are not actually given "guaranteed" slots in the PCC but will be "considered" most likely as "wild card entries" based on how they did in these tournaments.


The solution would be to exclude the off-season tournaments altogether, many teams don't take them seriously anyway. Limit the scope to those leagues organized by associations of colleges/universities (e.g. UAAP, NCAA, NCRAA, etc.). The question I have is whether the league calendars can all be synchronized to fit the the schedule of a national tournament. Are all the collegiate leagues held in the first semester?

thadzonline
03-26-2008, 07:31 AM
I can already foresee for instance the likes of UE, FEU, Letran, San Beda aside from Ateneo and Lasalle as "rotating" just among themselves who will be off-season champions in the HAIL, Nike, Fil-Oil and FMC this summer. I shudder to think what will happen if we get the same champions, secod placers, third placers, ad infinitum.

One other thing: the champions of these off-season tournaments are not actually given "guaranteed" slots in the PCC but will be "considered" most likely as "wild card entries" based on how they did in these tournaments.


The solution would be to exclude the off-season tournaments altogether, many teams don't take them seriously anyway. Limit the scope to those leagues organized by associations of colleges/universities (e.g. UAAP, NCAA, NCRAA, etc.). The question I have is whether the league calendars can all be synchronized to fit the the schedule of a national tournament. Are all the collegiate leagues held in the first semester?


there's a league focused on the Central Visayas that is done in the 2nd semester, yung VAAA, although it is just a 2-year old league

zweihanderfaust
04-17-2008, 03:35 AM
can we have a chart or visual representation (i know this will be a very large drawing) of the tournament format? me thinks some people will be able to understand better how the tournament works...

thadzonline
04-17-2008, 08:47 AM
that would be good, a concept map and tournament flow diagram helps us digest the whole thing

nastrans
04-17-2008, 10:44 PM
can we have a chart or visual representation (i know this will be a very large drawing) of the tournament format? me thinks some people will be able to understand better how the tournament works...


I think that as of now, they are still laying that groundwork for the zonal and qualifying tournaments, kasi hanggang ngayon di pa din mabanggit kung sinu-sino ang mga teams na kasali.

thadzonline
04-18-2008, 08:30 AM
I hope it aint a pipe dream though

amdgc82
04-25-2008, 07:15 AM
http://themindanaocurrent.blogspot.com/2008/04/sports-leisure-by-john-montalvan.html

x x x x x x x x x x

As of this writing, Coach Joe Lipa is still coming to meet with the local Coaches for the holding of the Regional Leg of the Champions’ League here in Cagayan de Oro.

The Champions League will be having a new format for 2008 as it will now be nationwide and thus it will give provincial teams equal chances to participate in the National Collegiate Champions’ League.

In the past, provincial teams were hand picked by the organizers to be able to participate in the Champions League. With this new set up, Provincial Teams now go through an elimination stage. The Top 4 UAAP and NCAA Teams still get seeded automatically together with the other teams who top their own inter-collegiate leagues. Instead of hand picking the “wild cards”, they would now have to go through the regional eliminations.

Xavier University will be hosting the Regional Eliminations and participating schools will be coming from Cagayan de Oro, Iligan, Butuan, Surigao and Bukidnon.

amdgc82
04-25-2008, 07:19 AM
Too many mouths to feed
BIZLINKS By Rey Gamboa
Friday, April 25, 2008
http://philstar.com

x x x x x x x x x x

Philippine Collegiate Champions League

Recently, a Memorandum of Agreement (MOA) between BAP-Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas and the Philippine Collegiate Champions League (PCCL) was signed to officially launch the Philippine Collegiate Championship games for 2008.

Although Champions League is on its 6th year of search for the best collegiate team in the country, this year’s competition is broader in reach and will give more provincial collegiate teams the opportunity to challenge the more publicized teams in Metro Manila.

The first of a series of steps towards the championship is the competition of teams in their respective “mother leagues” with the winners advancing to the regional area championship to determine the regional champions that will compete in the zonal championships.

In the zonals, the regional champions will meet with qualified teams from Metro Manila to earn slots in the “Sweet 16” final challenge to be held in Manila.

The last team standing after the “Sweet 16” knockout games is declared the Philippine Collegiate Champion for 2008 and will represent the country in international collegiate basketball competitions. The top four teams of the championship will also earn for their respective schools grants for athletic scholarships.

Watch this space for more updates about this exciting event.

Should you wish to share any insights, write me at Link Edge, 25th Floor, 139 Corporate Center, Valero Street, Salcedo Village, 1227 Makati City. Or e-mail me at reydgamboa@yahoo.com.

gameface_one
04-25-2008, 10:11 AM
A real national basketball championship



Ed Picson
mb.com.ph

It has always been a puzzle that in a country so enamored with the hoops sport, there is no wide ranging national basketball championship.


Of course there are the NCAA, UAAP, NCRAA, NAASCU, CESAFI, etc., but these just underscore the factionalism and regionalism that are facts of life in our 7-thousand plus islands.

Admittedly, there have been attempts to stage such a national championship, but none have so far been successful in involving the thousands of players, coaches, referees and other officials who are aching to be noticed in the countryside.

Until the recently-launched Philippine Collegiate Champions League which involves 250-count them, 250-different varsity basketball teams from all over the country!

Sanctioned by the BAP-Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas, the PCCL is by far the most extensive basketball league in the country which aims to discover basketball talents who otherwise would linger and eventually wither in obscurity in some far-flung area due to lack of opportunity and exposure.

At the forefront of this mammoth activity is Rey Gamboa, a retired top-tier executive of Pilipinas Shell and former chairman of the Philippine Basketball Association (PBA).

"We want the teams and players to look beyond their mother leagues and see the Philippine Collegiate Championship (PCC) as the one, true national championship," declares Gamboa who is undaunted by the logistical and organizational nightmare of coordinating a venture of epic proportions.

What sets the tournament apart is that it does not discriminate against any school, tournament or area. Champions and placers in such leagues as the NCAA, UAAP and the other tournaments are among the seeded participants.

Even the champions of invitational leagues such as the FilOil Flying V PreSeason tournament and Fr Martin Cup and other developmental tournaments will be considered for slots in the zonal competitions.

The PCCL has divided the country into nine regions; the top four in each region (or a total of 36 teams) will advance to the zonal competitions.

The top 16 teams in the zonals will compete in the national championship billed as the Fil-Oil Flying V "Sweet 16" Final Challenge.

The 16 teams will slug it out in a knock out "losers go home" tournament until a Champion emerges, similar to the US NCAA National Tournament format.

The champions will then have a legitimate claim to being THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONS, and apart from the prestige, will also be awarded cash prizes in the form of scholarships/athletic equipment, grants and other prizes which should go a long way for the schools’ sports programs.

In the first level alone, there will be a total of 1700 games to be played in over 40 venues all over the Philippines.

Furthermore, the games will get extensive media coverage in print and broadcast, with some games to be featured in the television coverage of the league to be handled by and aired on Basketball TV (BTV).

There is also the all-important recognition by FIBA: the Philippine Collegiate Champion will compete in all FIBA-sanctioned college basketball tournaments the world over.

The first PCCL Champion will represent the country in the 2009 Universiade Games to be held in Serbia, aside from getting P500, 000 in grants.

The Universiade brings together the top school teams and athletes from around the world in a competition similar to the Olympics.

The PCCL starts in June and will declare a national champion by year end. Already, teams in the provinces are gearing up for possible encounters against high-profile urban teams while the city slickers know they can’t be complacent against unknown teams who are just as serious about basketball as they are.

We wish the PCCL good luck and long life!

* * * * *

Speaking of provinces, we are off to Bacolod City, one of our premier cities and must-visit places for the PBA All-Star weekend which reels off today.

The last time I was in Bacolod for the 2005 SEA Games, I couldn’t get enough of the seafood fare, their famous chicken inasal and other culinary delights.

But the city’s main attraction is the friendly folk. I even wrote of my admiration for their police force whose members were so helpful, smiling and friendly.

None of the intimidating, gruff and brash attitudes some policemen in other places seem to think comes with the uniform.

So I look forward to another pleasant experience in the City of Smiles and you can be sure that the PBA will come up with many exciting events to bring out those smiles, with the slam-dunk and three-point shooting competitions, culminating in the All-Star Game on Sunday.

See you around in Bacolod then, te?

D_I_A
04-26-2008, 07:07 PM
Ang gaganda ng plans ng SBP, like this National Collegiate Champions League tapos yung LIGA PILIPINAS, not to mention our RP Youth Team which is preparing hard for its SEABA joust, but people from the BAP are like demons sent from hell to destroy these programs.

it's just a matter of being been trashed and egos that were dump to oblivion ever since FIBA banished the BAP, but BAP just refuses to die like SATAN

i pray that more saints and archangel will now stand up to face this hell bound BAP minions like Pichay, Villafuerte and Lim. positive and pre emptive actions must be done now, BAP is said to have its own election 2 wks earlier from what SBP has scheduled at the end of May.

this shows a great divide between the BAP and SBP that might lead to another FIBA suspension.

we must act now before the BAP succeeds in bringing our beloved sport back to the dark ages.

NO TO ANOTHER SUSPENSION!!!

DOWN WITH THE BAP!!!

DEPORT GRAHAM LIM NOW!!!

DON'T YIELD TO VEGETABLE PICHAY AND EVIL VILLAFUERTE!!!

SUPPORT THE SBP!!!

LONG LIVE PHILLIPINE BASKETBALL!!!

CrossOver
04-29-2008, 12:36 PM
^If SBP create National Collegiate Champions League, LIGA PILIPINAS & RP Youth Team ano naman po sa BAP?

D_I_A
05-01-2008, 12:55 PM
^If SBP create National Collegiate Champions League, LIGA PILIPINAS & RP Youth Team ano naman po sa BAP?



Sa BAP - Kangkongan Basketball League...hehe

well they are adamant on their NAtional Students Basketball Championships (NSBC) ito kasi ang long time tournament ng BAP ever since nabuo sya in the 1930s.

siguro igigiit pa rin diyan yung National Basketball League na laging nagpa flop pantapat sa Liga Pilipinas comprised of the merger of NBC and MVBA.


Down with the BAP!!!

amdgc82
05-03-2008, 04:56 PM
http://themindanaocurrent.blogspot.com/2008/04/sports-leisure-by-john-montalvan_27.html

***

After the Outreach Program of the Xavier Basketball Varsity, I went to the Dynasty Court Hotel to attend the meeting for the National Collegiate Champions League where no less than Coach Joe Lipa, the Commissioner of the Champions League discussed the new set-up.

In the past, teams participating in the Champions League were hand picked by the organization. This year, it will be different as it will be more systematic.

Though there will be 8 teams that are seeded, the other 8 teams to complete the sweet sixteen will be going through a qualifying stage.

Here in Cagayan de Oro, we will have to go through the Local elimination which is the COSAA, then the top 2 winners will play in the Regionals where teams from Iligan, Bukidnon, Butuan and Surigao will be part. The PRISAA is said to be planning to move their college basketball games to the 1st semester so that they’ll be able to join the league. The top 2 teams in the Regionals will then advance to the Zonals.

For the Zonals, we are bracketed with the Davao Region, the Zamboanga Region, the UAAP 3rd placer and the CESAFI 3rd placer. The Host School will also get an automatic seat in the Zonals.

One of the concerns raised during the meeting is the inclusion of the UAAP and CESAFI teams in the Zonals. According to PRISAA President Addie Barba, it would seem like the chances of winning against the UAAP and CESAFI teams are dim.

But Coach Joe Lipa, being a seasoned coach who is known not to have ever given up decided to give a pep talk. He shared that this is the time that teams should work harder to ensure a slot in the Sweet Sixteen. “Its not impossible to beat them. If you work hard enough, you can,” Coach Joe explained.

Xavier University is being eyed to host the Champions League Regionals and Zonals which are scheduled in October and November, respectively. Exact Dates will be announced later.

D_I_A
05-03-2008, 06:49 PM
i hope to see teams from the provinces beat and give NCR teams a run of their money!!!

thadzonline
05-07-2008, 09:01 AM
http://themindanaocurrent.blogspot.com/2008/04/sports-leisure-by-john-montalvan_27.html

***

After the Outreach Program of the Xavier Basketball Varsity, I went to the Dynasty Court Hotel to attend the meeting for the National Collegiate Champions League where no less than Coach Joe Lipa, the Commissioner of the Champions League discussed the new set-up.

In the past, teams participating in the Champions League were hand picked by the organization. This year, it will be different as it will be more systematic.

Though there will be 8 teams that are seeded, the other 8 teams to complete the sweet sixteen will be going through a qualifying stage.

Here in Cagayan de Oro, we will have to go through the Local elimination which is the COSAA, then the top 2 winners will play in the Regionals where teams from Iligan, Bukidnon, Butuan and Surigao will be part. The PRISAA is said to be planning to move their college basketball games to the 1st semester so that they’ll be able to join the league. The top 2 teams in the Regionals will then advance to the Zonals.

For the Zonals, we are bracketed with the Davao Region, the Zamboanga Region, the UAAP 3rd placer and the CESAFI 3rd placer. The Host School will also get an automatic seat in the Zonals.

One of the concerns raised during the meeting is the inclusion of the UAAP and CESAFI teams in the Zonals. According to PRISAA President Addie Barba, it would seem like the chances of winning against the UAAP and CESAFI teams are dim.

But Coach Joe Lipa, being a seasoned coach who is known not to have ever given up decided to give a pep talk. He shared that this is the time that teams should work harder to ensure a slot in the Sweet Sixteen. “Its not impossible to beat them. If you work hard enough, you can,” Coach Joe explained.

Xavier University is being eyed to host the Champions League Regionals and Zonals which are scheduled in October and November, respectively. Exact Dates will be announced later.


I think the concern is legit, and I have been saying that all along..Im from Cebu and even if a 3rd place CeSAFI team is bracketed in the Mindanao Zonals, I think it's like giving them a second chance too while the Mindanao qualifiers are going through a hell lot before they can get a slot and one miscue will then mean early exit..

pachador
05-07-2008, 01:04 PM
in the short term, its a higher possibility that the 3rd placer in cesafi or UAAP might thrash the mindanao teams but over the long run, this will expose mindanao teams to a higher level of competition from these UAAP/CESAFI teams which should make the mindanao teams get tougher in the long run so its a blessing in disguise actually.





http://themindanaocurrent.blogspot.com/2008/04/sports-leisure-by-john-montalvan_27.html

***

After the Outreach Program of the Xavier Basketball Varsity, I went to the Dynasty Court Hotel to attend the meeting for the National Collegiate Champions League where no less than Coach Joe Lipa, the Commissioner of the Champions League discussed the new set-up.

In the past, teams participating in the Champions League were hand picked by the organization. This year, it will be different as it will be more systematic.

Though there will be 8 teams that are seeded, the other 8 teams to complete the sweet sixteen will be going through a qualifying stage.

Here in Cagayan de Oro, we will have to go through the Local elimination which is the COSAA, then the top 2 winners will play in the Regionals where teams from Iligan, Bukidnon, Butuan and Surigao will be part. The PRISAA is said to be planning to move their college basketball games to the 1st semester so that they’ll be able to join the league. The top 2 teams in the Regionals will then advance to the Zonals.

For the Zonals, we are bracketed with the Davao Region, the Zamboanga Region, the UAAP 3rd placer and the CESAFI 3rd placer. The Host School will also get an automatic seat in the Zonals.

One of the concerns raised during the meeting is the inclusion of the UAAP and CESAFI teams in the Zonals. According to PRISAA President Addie Barba, it would seem like the chances of winning against the UAAP and CESAFI teams are dim.

But Coach Joe Lipa, being a seasoned coach who is known not to have ever given up decided to give a pep talk. He shared that this is the time that teams should work harder to ensure a slot in the Sweet Sixteen. “Its not impossible to beat them. If you work hard enough, you can,” Coach Joe explained.

Xavier University is being eyed to host the Champions League Regionals and Zonals which are scheduled in October and November, respectively. Exact Dates will be announced later.


I think the concern is legit, and I have been saying that all along..Im from Cebu and even if a 3rd place CeSAFI team is bracketed in the Mindanao Zonals, I think it's like giving them a second chance too while the Mindanao qualifiers are going through a hell lot before they can get a slot and one miscue will then mean early exit..

D_I_A
05-13-2008, 12:35 AM
in the short term, its a higher possibility that the 3rd placer in cesafi or UAAP might thrash the mindanao teams but over the long run, this will expose mindanao teams to a higher level of competition from these UAAP/CESAFI teams which should make the mindanao teams get tougher in the long run so its a blessing in disguise actually.





http://themindanaocurrent.blogspot.com/2008/04/sports-leisure-by-john-montalvan_27.html

***

After the Outreach Program of the Xavier Basketball Varsity, I went to the Dynasty Court Hotel to attend the meeting for the National Collegiate Champions League where no less than Coach Joe Lipa, the Commissioner of the Champions League discussed the new set-up.

In the past, teams participating in the Champions League were hand picked by the organization. This year, it will be different as it will be more systematic.

Though there will be 8 teams that are seeded, the other 8 teams to complete the sweet sixteen will be going through a qualifying stage.

Here in Cagayan de Oro, we will have to go through the Local elimination which is the COSAA, then the top 2 winners will play in the Regionals where teams from Iligan, Bukidnon, Butuan and Surigao will be part. The PRISAA is said to be planning to move their college basketball games to the 1st semester so that they’ll be able to join the league. The top 2 teams in the Regionals will then advance to the Zonals.

For the Zonals, we are bracketed with the Davao Region, the Zamboanga Region, the UAAP 3rd placer and the CESAFI 3rd placer. The Host School will also get an automatic seat in the Zonals.

One of the concerns raised during the meeting is the inclusion of the UAAP and CESAFI teams in the Zonals. According to PRISAA President Addie Barba, it would seem like the chances of winning against the UAAP and CESAFI teams are dim.

But Coach Joe Lipa, being a seasoned coach who is known not to have ever given up decided to give a pep talk. He shared that this is the time that teams should work harder to ensure a slot in the Sweet Sixteen. “Its not impossible to beat them. If you work hard enough, you can,” Coach Joe explained.

Xavier University is being eyed to host the Champions League Regionals and Zonals which are scheduled in October and November, respectively. Exact Dates will be announced later.


I think the concern is legit, and I have been saying that all along..Im from Cebu and even if a 3rd place CeSAFI team is bracketed in the Mindanao Zonals, I think it's like giving them a second chance too while the Mindanao qualifiers are going through a hell lot before they can get a slot and one miscue will then mean early exit..



dapat talaga mas marami din na mga provincial teams..it's not only an NCR teams' show!

amdgc82
05-16-2008, 07:41 PM
On a break
BIZLINKS By Rey Gamboa
Friday, May 16, 2008
www.philstar.com

I will be away for a couple of weeks for my annual sabbatical leave. My commentaries on issues of the day will resume on the 6th of June.

Collegiate Champions League update Coach Joe Lipa, national tournament director of Philippine Collegiate Champions League (PCCL), announced that all existing collegiate basketball leagues in the country have been updated about Philippine Collegiate Championship games for 2008, a nationwide competition that was recently launched by PCCL jointly with BAP-Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas.

Coach Lipa completed the road show conducted all over the country where collegiate basketball competitions are being held. During the presentations made to league and school officials, he expounded on the process and framework of the Philippine Collegiate Championship games that will determine the national collegiate champion for 2008.

The search for the 2008 national collegiate champion is nationwide in scope and multi-level in structure. The first phase is the competition among schools in their respective “mother leagues” which starts in June, which will be completed sometime in the first week of October.

According to Coach Lipa, all the collegiate teams that are competing in their respective mother leagues are finalizing their line-ups and looking forward to the next phase of the tough road to the national championship.

Watch this space for more updates about this major collegiate basketball event.

Should you wish to share any insights, write me at Link Edge, 25th Floor, 139 Corporate Center, Valero Street, Salcedo Village, 1227 Makati City. Or e-mail me at reydgamboa@yahoo.com. For a compilation of previous articles, visit www.BizlinksPhilippines.net.

nastrans
05-16-2008, 08:15 PM
I see nothing new and detail about Gamboa's update on the PCCL, up to now some of us are still unaware of how the format, schedule, etc. of the league will be.

D_I_A
05-16-2008, 11:13 PM
I see nothing new and detail about Gamboa's update on the PCCL, up to now some of us are still unaware of how the format, schedule, etc. of the league will be.


i share the same opinion, but nevertheless the organizers are taking things seriously compared in the past when there are only a few teams that participate and the outcome is predictable.. hope we see the changes this season.

gameface_one
05-28-2008, 10:00 AM
200 teams in biggest college cagefest
mb.com.ph





More than 200 collegiate teams nationwide will take part in the National Collegiate Championship, a five-month undertaking that culminates with the staging of the Fil-Oil-Flying V "Sweet Sixteen" Final Challenge in November.


Rey Gamboa, chairman of the Philippine Collegiate Champions League (PCCL), said all existing collegiate leagues in the country have been appraised of the competition organized by the PCCL and sanctioned by the BAP-Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas.

PCCL national tournament director Joe Lipa has completed the road show wherein he discussed the process and framework of the competition that will determine the national collegiate champion this year.

Eight teams have been seeded outright to the "Sweet Sixteen" finals.

These are the top two teams of the University Athletic Association of the Philippines (UAAP) and the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) and the champions of the Universities and Colleges Athletic Association (UCAA)/National Capital Region Athletic Association (NCRAA), National Athletic Association of Schools, Colleges and Universities (NAASCU) and Cebu Schools Athletic Foundation Inc.

The remaining eight spots will be contested through an elaborate process that begins next month with the holding of the "mother leagues" of participating schools.

League champions will advance to the second phase the regional championships.

Region 1 is composed of Ilocos, Pangasinan and Mountain Province; Region 2: Tarlac, Zambales, Pampanga and Bulacan; Region 3: Batangas, Quezon and Bicol provinces; Region 4: Iloilo and Negros provinces; Region 5: Dumaguete and Bohol; Region 6: Leyte, Ormoc and Samar; Regional 7: Cagayan de Oro, Iligan, Misamis Oriental and Caraga; Region 8: Davao, Socsargen and Maguindanao; and Region 9: Zamboanga (cities and provinces) and Misamis Occidental.

The nine regional champions will advance into the zone championships to be joined by the third and fourth placers of the UAAP and NCAA, the finalists of the South NCAA, the runner-up and third placer of CESAFI, three wildcard squads and four host teams.

The top two teams in each of the four zones will join the seeded teams to the knockout finals set Nov. 23 to Dec. 7.

The national champion will receive a scholarship grant worth R500,000 and represent the country to the Universiade Games next year in Serbia.

The runner-up will get R200,000 scholarship grant and the third and fourth placers will receive R100,000 and R50,000, respectively.

D_I_A
05-30-2008, 11:44 PM
200 teams in biggest college cagefest
mb.com.ph





More than 200 collegiate teams nationwide will take part in the National Collegiate Championship, a five-month undertaking that culminates with the staging of the Fil-Oil-Flying V "Sweet Sixteen" Final Challenge in November.


Rey Gamboa, chairman of the Philippine Collegiate Champions League (PCCL), said all existing collegiate leagues in the country have been appraised of the competition organized by the PCCL and sanctioned by the BAP-Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas.

PCCL national tournament director Joe Lipa has completed the road show wherein he discussed the process and framework of the competition that will determine the national collegiate champion this year.

Eight teams have been seeded outright to the "Sweet Sixteen" finals.

These are the top two teams of the University Athletic Association of the Philippines (UAAP) and the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) and the champions of the Universities and Colleges Athletic Association (UCAA)/National Capital Region Athletic Association (NCRAA), National Athletic Association of Schools, Colleges and Universities (NAASCU) and Cebu Schools Athletic Foundation Inc.

The remaining eight spots will be contested through an elaborate process that begins next month with the holding of the "mother leagues" of participating schools.

League champions will advance to the second phase the regional championships.

Region 1 is composed of Ilocos, Pangasinan and Mountain Province; Region 2: Tarlac, Zambales, Pampanga and Bulacan; Region 3: Batangas, Quezon and Bicol provinces; Region 4: Iloilo and Negros provinces; Region 5: Dumaguete and Bohol; Region 6: Leyte, Ormoc and Samar; Regional 7: Cagayan de Oro, Iligan, Misamis Oriental and Caraga; Region 8: Davao, Socsargen and Maguindanao; and Region 9: Zamboanga (cities and provinces) and Misamis Occidental.

The nine regional champions will advance into the zone championships to be joined by the third and fourth placers of the UAAP and NCAA, the finalists of the South NCAA, the runner-up and third placer of CESAFI, three wildcard squads and four host teams.

The top two teams in each of the four zones will join the seeded teams to the knockout finals set Nov. 23 to Dec. 7.

The national champion will receive a scholarship grant worth R500,000 and represent the country to the Universiade Games next year in Serbia.

The runner-up will get R200,000 scholarship grant and the third and fourth placers will receive R100,000 and R50,000, respectively.





i hope teams and leagues will really take this National Champions League seriously...not excusing themselves because of lame alibis

danny
06-02-2008, 12:29 AM
^^^

An excuse is always an option in the current set-up. BAP-SBP is not comparable to the US NCAA in both organization and authority.

However, this seems to be an improvement from the previous years. The Champion will now represent the country in the world university games.

D_I_A
06-05-2008, 10:52 PM
^^^

An excuse is always an option in the current set-up.* BAP-SBP is not comparable to the US NCAA in both organization and authority.

However, this* seems to be an improvement from the previous years. The Champion will* now represent the country in the world university games.


SBP must stood its ground and start imposing real presence, not just a platform for leagues to be together. there must also be a united and organized front especially BAP Chinese Mafia are just waiting to have its coup against the legitimate basketball stakeholders

thadzonline
06-26-2008, 07:57 AM
^^^

An excuse is always an option in the current set-up. BAP-SBP is not comparable to the US NCAA in both organization and authority.

However, this seems to be an improvement from the previous years. The Champion will now represent the country in the world university games.


SBP must stood its ground and start imposing real presence, not just a platform for leagues to be together. there must also be a united and organized front especially BAP Chinese Mafia are just waiting to have its coup against the legitimate basketball stakeholders


transparency is key which can lead to trust to assimilation of objectives to loyalty then unity

easter
06-26-2008, 09:00 AM
^An excuse is always in the horizon as long as the UAAP and the NCAA are the premier collegiate leagues in the country.

Schools in these leagues do not play, prepare, scout and recruit all year long to win the FilOil, Nike Summer League, Father Martins or the CCL. They prepare with obsession because they want an NCAA or UAAP crown and that is just the reality of college ball right now.

juliusports
06-26-2008, 10:36 AM
The PCCL program is what the provinces longed been waiting for... perhaps the big leagues may say that results may be the same as the previous years but we take this as a challenge as we start to groom our teams with dreams of achieving higher goals for the national championship. Guys dont under estimate the talents from schools in the provinces... lets make this league a good and healthy tournament to join with.... lets get it on!!!!!!!! :o





I see nothing new and detail about Gamboa's update on the PCCL, up to now some of us are still unaware of how the format, schedule, etc. of the league will be.


i share the same opinion, but nevertheless the organizers are taking things seriously compared in the past when there are only a few teams that participate and the outcome is predictable.. hope we see the changes this season.

D_I_A
06-26-2008, 08:37 PM
The PCCL program is what the provinces longed been waiting for... perhaps the big leagues may say that results may be the same as the previous years but we take this as a challenge as we start to groom our teams with dreams of achieving higher goals for the national championship. Guys dont under estimate the talents from schools in the provinces... lets make this league a good and healthy tournament to join with.... lets get it on!!!!!!!! :o





I see nothing new and detail about Gamboa's update on the PCCL, up to now some of us are still unaware of how the format, schedule, etc. of the league will be.



This will be a long way, but i'm sure it'll be a hit!

i share the same opinion, but nevertheless the organizers are taking things seriously compared in the past when there are only a few teams that participate and the outcome is predictable.. hope we see the changes this season.

amdgc82
07-03-2008, 10:32 AM
View the flow of the
PCCL Tournament Format -> http://www.collegiatechampionsleague.net/CCL%20FINAL%20-%2010Apr08.ppt

D_I_A
07-05-2008, 09:24 PM
I read the flow..sana dagdagan pa ang provincial and regional qualifiers, parang dominated pa rin ng NCR teams.

Howard the Duck
07-13-2008, 06:38 PM
wouldn't it be a good idea to see manila-based schools play in the provinces and the provincial schools in the metro?

parang 4 tourneys (1-2 will be at manila)

D_I_A
07-13-2008, 11:53 PM
wouldn't it be a good idea to see manila-based schools play in the provinces and the provincial schools in the metro?

parang 4 tourneys (1-2 will be at manila)


mas maganda rin kung damihan ang berths kamiing from the provinces

Joescoundrel
07-14-2008, 11:24 AM
Hello everyone. I’d like to thank all of you again for posting the weekly collegiate rankings in your respective sites and I hope that it’s provided for some interesting discussions among your visitors. I’ve noticed that there were some questions regarding the PCC rules of eligibility of some players for the tournament in November so, here’s the official statement from PCC Chairman, Rey Gamboa:

The eligibility rules of PCCL are as follows:

a) PCCL respects the prevailing eligibility rules of the different collegiate basketball leagues in the country recognizing that each league has to consider the unique and specific conditions of the locality where it conducts collegiate basketball competitions. All team official line up must be approved by their respective “mother leagues”.

b) PCCL, however, will only allow players not more than 25 years of age as at date of competition in the official team line up.

c) PCCL respects disciplinary actions taken by each league as they affect the participating teams. Therefore, PCCL will not allow the participation of teams that are suspended by their “mother leagues”. Players who are suspended by their “mother leagues will not also be allowed to play.

d) The official team line up may include a maximum of two foreign players as approved by the respective “mother leagues”. However, only one foreign player at a time may be allowed to play in all PCCL games.

thadzonline
07-14-2008, 11:43 AM
by foreign players, they mean those who do not have a Filipino parent at least? or kasama ba doon ang fil-fors?

clutchjedi
07-14-2008, 12:42 PM
Ano din kaya ang magiging rules regarding -
-* roster size -* 12 players, all can play?
-* roster replacements -* can you include a player who didn't play in the mother league, e.g. was on Team B? sana may limit din.

The_Big_Cat
07-14-2008, 01:08 PM
Baka payagan nila maglaro ang Team B players considering the number of seniors (playing in their last year) either going to the PBA or playing in the PBL after their NCAA/UAAP campaign.

Among them probably:

MIT's Kelvin Dela Pena, ADMU's Chris Tiu, DLSU's Casio & Rico, UE's Arellano, SSC-R' s Ballesteros, UST's Jervy Cruz and others.

Joescoundrel
07-30-2008, 07:43 AM
From our friends over at Inquirer sports ___

Leagues start Collegiate Championship wars

Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 05:33:00 07/30/2008

MANILA, Philippines—The search for the country’s best collegiate basketball teams begins this weekend with nine leagues featuring more than 200 schools kicking off hostilities that will take the winners to the Philippine Collegiate Championship.

The nine-team Cebu Schools Athletic Federation Inc. (Cesafi) opens on Aug. 2.

The Zamboanga del Norte League fires off on Aug. 8 with seven teams seeing action while the Zamboanga City-wide Interschool League opens with 12 teams the next day.

Also opening on Aug. 8 are the National Athletic Association of Schools, Colleges and Universities (Naascu) and the Colleges and Universities Sports Association (Cusa), both with 13 teams, and NCAA South with nine teams.

The Bohol Collegiate League gets going on Aug. 16, the Baguio Benguet Collegiate League reels off on Aug. 23 and the Ormoc City League unfolds on Aug. 30.

Millions of pesos worth of scholarship and athletic grants are at stake in this annual tournament being conducted by the Collegiate Champions League chaired by Rey Gamboa.

Joescoundrel
07-30-2008, 07:48 AM
by foreign players, they mean those who do not have a Filipino parent at least? or kasama ba doon ang fil-fors?


Thad, as explained to us by the PCCL people "foreigners" in this sense refers to those players who have exclusively foreign citizenship, i.e. American citizenship, Australian citizenship, etc-etc.

Therefore Filipino-Foreigners such as Lasalle's Bader Malabes do NOT count as foreign players; his teammate Marko Batricevic of Serbia however is to be considered as a foreigner.

Ateneo's two Americans - Kirk Long and Vince Burke - are also considered foreigners, while their teammate Jobe Nkemakolam is considered a Fil-Sampalocian. ;D

myktristan
07-30-2008, 09:06 AM
9 leagues begin quest for college tilt berths

Nine basketball leagues open shop this month as the journey to the Philippine Collegiate Championship continues.

The Cebu Schools Athletic Federation Inc (CESAFI), a major collegiate league in Cebu, starts its 2008 season on Aug. 2 with nine teams participating.

The Zamboanga del Norte League kicks off on Aug. 8 with seven teams participating. The next day, the Zamboanga City-wide Interschool League begins drawing a cast of 12 teams.

The Bohol Collegiate League gets going on Aug. 16 with four teams participating, Baguio Benguet Collegiate League reels off on Aug. 23 with nine teams, and the Ormoc City League gets under way on Aug. 30 with nine teams.

In Metro Manila, the National Athletic Association of Schools, Colleges and Universities (NAASCU) begins on Aug. 8 with 13 teams in the field followed by Colleges and Universities Sports Association (CUSA) with 13 teams and NCAA South with nine teams.

The CESAFI, NAASCU and CUSA champions are seeded outright to the finals, dubbed as the "Sweet Sixteen."

Also getting automatic spots are the finalists in the ongoing Universities Athletic Association of the Philippines (UAAP) and the winners of the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) and the National Capital Region Athletic Association (NCRAA)/Universities and Colleges Athletic Association (UCAA).

Millions of pesos worth of grants for scholarship and athletic facilities are at stake in this annual search for the national collegiate champion being conducted by the Collegiate Champions League (PCCL).

Rey Gamboa, chairman of the Collegiate Champions League (PCCL), announced that over 200 collegiate teams nationwide are qualified to join the search for the best collegiate team in the country.

The first phase in the nationwide multi-level tournament is the competition among schools in their respective "mother leagues." This is followed by the regional championships then the zonal championships and the final phase, the FilOil Flying V "Sweet 16" Final Challenge.

The various collegiate leagues are grouped into the following the regional areas: Regional area 1- Ilocos, Pangasinan, Mountain Province; Regional area 2 Tarlac, Zambales, Pampanga and Bulacan, Regional area 3 Batangas, Quezon and Bicol provinces; Regional area 4- Iloilo & Negros provinces; Regional area 5 Dumaguete and Bohol, Regional area 6 Leyte, Ormoc and Samar, Regional area 7 Cagayan de Oro, Iligan, Mis. Oriental and Caraga, Regional 8 Davao, Socsargen & Maguindanao and Regional area 9 Zamboanga (cities and provinces) & Mis. Occidental.

For more details about the biggest collegiate basketball event for the year, visit www.collegiatechampionshipsleague.net (http://www.collegiatechampionshipsleague.net)
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The site isn't operational yet so don't bother going there...Sana maging successful itong PCCL na ito!

thadzonline
07-30-2008, 09:33 AM
hmm, 9 teams ba ang CeSAFI...8 lang yata sa count ko except if CDU is making a comeback or if they made an exemption to the moratorium(which expires 2011) to accommodate ACT

D_I_A
07-30-2008, 06:58 PM
yung mga liga na ito,medyo familiar pa..i'm keen on looking at the other Regional and Provincial leagues..i hope maglabasan na sila ngayon.

and for CESAFI, i just hope that they won't waste this opportunity to prove that CEBU is a rising basketball power by boycotting the PCCL just because of the SBP - BAP rift.

sayang ang CESAFI pag nagkaganun..

LONG LIVE SBP!!!

DOWN WITH THE BAP!!!

SUPPORT THE PHILIPPINE CHAMPIONS COLLEGIATE LEAGUE!!!

thadzonline
07-30-2008, 07:28 PM
I dont think CeSAFI will boycott the PCCL..Kaya nga sila nag join sa BAp tourneys for more games, so it would be incongruent sa kanilang stand pag nangyaring i boycott nila ang PCCL

D_I_A
07-31-2008, 09:29 AM
I dont think CeSAFI will boycott the PCCL..Kaya nga sila nag join sa BAp tourneys for more games, so it would be incongruent sa kanilang stand pag nangyaring i boycott nila ang PCCL
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Sana nga..otherwise it will show their true color.. ;)

nicksy
07-31-2008, 03:03 PM
Updated Power Ranking:


http://www.collegiatechampionsleague.net/rankings.html

the Date was not change, the date should be July 28-Aug .

sajubeads
08-03-2008, 06:54 AM
I dont think CeSAFI will boycott the PCCL..Kaya nga sila nag join sa BAp tourneys for more games, so it would be incongruent sa kanilang stand pag nangyaring i boycott nila ang PCCL


I do hope though tha Cesafi should be sanctioned by SBP for their belligerent actions. What values does the Cesafi trying to teach to their students, that it's okey not to abide by the rules for as long as you benefit from it.kung saan tayo nakikinabang dito tayo. Pero sana naman ang sanction comes in the form of CESAFI team havingb to go thru qualifying instead of having the outright slot for the champion. Pero gusto yata ni Commish Tangkuloy yan para kesyo practice na naman sa team ng CESAFI.

Nakakasuka talaga si Cesafi head TANGKULOY, he answered in one interview that CESAFI will join Cesafi might still join PCCL since probably by that time the leadership problem would already be resolve. Di ba at present Cesafi is maintaining a neutral stance.

E di mabilis na yan pag dating ng October, sabihin ng Cesafi na sa SBP na sila para makasali. Pero di ba hindi nga sila sumali sa Planning workshop ng SBP held mismo sa CEBU.Down with Commisioner Tangkuloy..... burn in hell with Graham Lim, Pichay , Lito alvarez, Villafuerta and all BAP supporters.

juliusports
08-03-2008, 07:54 PM
GAME RESULT AS OF August 3, 2008

ZAMBOANGA SIBUGAY BASKETBALL COACHES ASSOCIATION


Ipil, Zamboanga Sibugay PCCL qualifying tournament:



1st Game Aurello Mendoza Memorial College (AMMC) VS. Marian College

AMMC - 75

Balugay 16, Lawas 16, Mabida 11, Revilla 10, Dumaboc 9, Dumagat 4, Beup 4, Gomonit 3, Hasim 2, Capala 0, Oxino 0

Marian - 72

Hechanova 26, Arevalo 22, Dullah 6, Aballe 5, Limba 5, Estrao 4, Sagun 2, Tabo tabo 2, Arlie 0, Pacilan 0, Lagudas 0

1st Qtr. 2nd Qtr. 3rd Qtr. 4thQtr. Final
21-16 15-23 16-16 20-20 75-72


2nd Game KIT VS. ZTI

KIT-Kabasalan - 111

Comique 20, Capuno 15, Basinillo 12, Balili 12, Santos 12, Arani 8, Estrera 6,
Verjino 6, Aurello 6, Alison 4, Mosqueda 4, Sason 2, Babiera 2, Sumatra 2, Avenido 0

ZTI - 69

Tarucan 28, Turno 16, Villanueva 11, Villaespin 8, Tolentino 4, Pal-laya 2, Refugio 0,
Duarte 0, Sadagnot 0, Turno 0

1st Qtr. 2nd Qtr. 3rd Qtr. 4thQtr. Final
26-14 34-17 36-24 25-14 111-69

3rd Game STII (Sibugay Technical Institute Inc.) VS. St. John College-Buug

STII - Winner by Forfeit (Default)


4th Game UZ (Universidad de Zamboanga – Ipil) VS. Medina College

UZ-Ipil - 74

Bolina 13, Trajico 11, Allera 10, Cruz 10, Carballo 7, Alayon 7, Virrey 6,
Tocao 4, Cenas 4, Evedientes 2, Abdulgani 0, Tuden 0, Espiritu 0, Fabela 0

Medina College - 62

Alfad 17, Izon 14, Dadjilul 10, Calabroso 8, Kurais 4, Asadil 3, Maquilan 2,
Buenaventura 2, Ismaluddin 2, Sanrojo 0, Daud 0, Gaudicos 0, Saladani 0, Largo 0

1st Qtr. 2nd Qtr. 3rd Qtr. 4thQtr. Final
18-6 18-22 18-18 20-18 74-62

Next Schedule:

August 10, 2008 Sunday

8:00 am ZTI Vs. AMMC

10:00am UZ Vs. SJC

1:00pm STII Vs. KIT

3:00pm MARIAN Vs. MEDINA

D_I_A
08-04-2008, 05:28 PM
GAME RESULT AS OF August 3, 2008

ZAMBOANGA SIBUGAY BASKETBALL COACHES ASSOCIATION


Ipil, Zamboanga Sibugay PCCL qualifying tournament:



1st Game* * Aurello Mendoza Memorial College (AMMC) VS. Marian College

AMMC - 75

Balugay 16,* Lawas 16,* Mabida 11,* Revilla 10,* Dumaboc 9,* Dumagat* 4,* Beup 4,* Gomonit 3,* Hasim 2,* Capala 0, Oxino 0

Marian - 72

Hechanova 26,* Arevalo 22,* Dullah 6,* Aballe 5,* Limba 5,* Estrao 4,* Sagun 2,* Tabo tabo 2,* Arlie 0,* Pacilan 0,* Lagudas 0

1st Qtr. 2nd Qtr. 3rd Qtr. 4thQtr. Final
21-16 15-23 16-16 20-20 75-72


2nd Game* * KIT VS. ZTI

KIT-Kabasalan - 111

Comique 20,* Capuno 15,* Basinillo 12,* Balili 12,* Santos 12,* Arani 8,* Estrera 6,
Verjino 6,* Aurello 6,* Alison 4,* Mosqueda 4,* Sason 2,* Babiera 2,* Sumatra 2,* Avenido 0

ZTI - 69

Tarucan 28,* Turno 16,* Villanueva 11,* Villaespin 8,* Tolentino 4,* *Pal-laya 2,* Refugio 0,*
Duarte 0,* Sadagnot 0,* Turno 0

1st Qtr. 2nd Qtr. 3rd Qtr. 4thQtr. Final
26-14 34-17 36-24 25-14* * * *111-69

3rd Game STII (Sibugay Technical Institute Inc.) VS. St. John College-Buug

STII - Winner by Forfeit (Default)


4th Game UZ (Universidad de Zamboanga – Ipil) VS. Medina College

UZ-Ipil - 74

Bolina 13,* Trajico 11,* Allera 10,* Cruz 10,* Carballo 7,* Alayon 7,* Virrey 6,
Tocao 4,* Cenas 4,* Evedientes 2,* Abdulgani 0, Tuden 0,* Espiritu 0,* Fabela 0

Medina College - 62

Alfad 17,* Izon 14,* Dadjilul 10,* Calabroso 8,* Kurais 4,* Asadil 3,* Maquilan 2,
Buenaventura 2,* Ismaluddin 2,* Sanrojo 0,* Daud 0,* Gaudicos 0,* Saladani 0, Largo 0

1st Qtr. 2nd Qtr. 3rd Qtr. 4thQtr. Final
18-6 18-22 18-18 20-18* * * * 74-62

Next Schedule:

August 10, 2008* Sunday

8:00 am ZTI Vs. AMMC

10:00am UZ Vs. SJC

1:00pm STII Vs. KIT

3:00pm MARIAN Vs. MEDINA




whoa!

good work.. at least ngayon diversified na talaga.. may mga inputs na galing sa provinces..maganda rin bantayan ang Cebu, Negros, Bohol, Davao, Surigao and Zamboanga competitions.

thadzonline
08-04-2008, 06:04 PM
Im working on the stats sheets of the CeSAFI games in the past 2 days..the stats will be found at the basketballcebu.com website after a few minutes

thadzonline
08-04-2008, 08:26 PM
stats for the last 2 CeSAFI playdates now available at http://www.basketballcebu.com

D_I_A
08-06-2008, 08:37 PM
stats for the last 2 CeSAFI playdates now available at http://www.basketballcebu.com


thanks sir thadz..

brownjapanese
08-23-2008, 11:52 AM
Is DLSU joining? Kaya di maganda ang CCL may mga schools na di sumasali...
I hope this tournament will start with a bang! Hopefully hindi tawagin ito na continuation ng CCL which is purely invitational lang... Who will be the first national champion? My top 5 in order: Ateneo, DLSU, UE, San Beda and JRU...

D_I_A
08-24-2008, 02:38 AM
Is DLSU joining? Kaya di maganda ang CCL may mga schools na di sumasali...
I hope this tournament will start with a bang! Hopefully hindi tawagin ito na continuation ng CCL which is purely invitational lang... Who will be the first national champion? My top 5 in order: Ateneo, DLSU, UE, San Beda and JRU...


yes kasali sila, kasali ang UAAP eh..may mga seeded slots ang UAAP sa Final Sweet 16.

Howard the Duck
08-26-2008, 03:07 AM
dapat kung ayaw sumali ng team may penalty from the mother league :P

myktristan
08-26-2008, 02:56 PM
if they are truly committed to the unity of our basketball scene, then they must participate..

bchoter
08-26-2008, 03:58 PM
dapat kung ayaw sumali ng team may penalty from the mother league :P
Palo sa puwet kay mother (league) :P

D_I_A
08-28-2008, 12:40 AM
dapat kung ayaw sumali ng team may penalty from the mother league :P
Palo sa puwet kay mother (league)* :P


bitay!!! ;D

clutchjedi
08-28-2008, 08:42 AM
dapat kung ayaw sumali ng team may penalty from the mother league :P


what if - if a team does not participate, all players on its current roster lose a year of eligibility?* :)

the only other penalty i can think of, which would affect the school but not the players, would be financial.

Howard the Duck
08-28-2008, 09:54 AM
dapat kung ayaw sumali ng team may penalty from the mother league :P


what if - if a team does not participate, all players on its current roster lose a year of eligibility? :)

the only other penalty i can think of, which would affect the school but not the players, would be financial.


bawal na nang mag-recruit.

masyadong marahas ang eligibility at yakang-yakang magbayad, lalo na ng berdeng paaralan

The_Big_Cat
08-29-2008, 10:48 AM
Dapat sa ARANETA COLISEUM ang venue.

thadzonline
08-29-2008, 02:15 PM
dapat kung ayaw sumali ng team may penalty from the mother league :P


suspension for the next season for failing to represent their mother leagues well

The_Big_Cat
08-29-2008, 04:25 PM
^And must also wear their respective NCAA/UAAP uniforms not practice uniforms.

Last year, Ateneo and UST didn't wear their UAAP uniforms. Ateneo wore only their UAAP uniforms when they barged into the finals.

D_I_A
08-31-2008, 08:27 PM
^And must also wear their respective NCAA/UAAP uniforms not practice uniforms.

Last year,* Ateneo and UST didn't wear their UAAP uniforms. Ateneo wore only their UAAP uniforms when they barged into the finals.




i agree with this suggestion..at least talagang seryosohan ang laro..

at for the venue, maganda kung rotation, for instance start either sa CEBU or NCR, then sa labas naman ng NCR like Davao, Baguio, Quezon, Bicol, Bacolod, Iloilo, CDO, Subic, Clark, Puerto Princesa etc.

basta i promote ito sa iba't ibang zones or regions

D_I_A
08-31-2008, 08:28 PM
^And must also wear their respective NCAA/UAAP uniforms not practice uniforms.

Last year,* Ateneo and UST didn't wear their UAAP uniforms. Ateneo wore only their UAAP uniforms when they barged into the finals.




i agree with this suggestion..at least talagang seryosohan ang laro..

at for the venue, maganda kung rotation, for instance start either sa CEBU or NCR, then sa labas naman ng NCR like Davao, Baguio, Quezon, Bicol, Bacolod, Iloilo, CDO, Subic, Clark, Puerto Princesa etc.

basta i promote ito sa iba't ibang zones or regions

CrossOver
09-04-2008, 10:42 AM
PLDT backs Champions League

The Philippine Collegiate Champions League (PCCL) has received the backing of PLDT as one of the major corporate supporters of the nationwide series.

PLDT thus joined SMART and Fil-Oil Flying V of the Villavicencio Group of Companies as major backers of the annual search for the country’s top college team.

"The Philippine Collegiate Championship is the one, true national championship and the financial backing extended by these corporate entities is a major boost to the development of Collegiate basketball in the country," PCCL chairman Reynaldo D. Gamboa said.

Gamboa said the sponsorship of PLDT and SMART is the fulfillment of the commitment made by Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (SBP) President Manny V. Pangilinan to promote and institutionalize a genuine national collegiate basketball tournament that involves teams from the more popular leagues in Metro Manila and from all localities where collegiate basketball leagues are organized.

The PCCL is a nationwide multi-level competition starting with the "mother league" games.

Winners in the various mother leagues advance to the regional, zonal and the final phase, the "Sweet 16" Final Challenge in Manila.

"This tournament provides teams and players the opportunity to look beyond their mother leagues and aim for higher achievements such as the regional and zonal championship and the chance to be crowned as the Philippine champion," said Gamboa.

As part of their sponsorship support, SMART and PLDT will be conducting promotional activities in the localities where the regional and zonal championships will be held.

FilOil Flying V, on the other hand, is the title sponsor of the "Sweet 16" Final Challenge and provides grants for scholarship and athletic facilities to the top four finalists.

A total of 212 teams from nine regional areas nationwide are participating in the search for the best collegiate teams in the country.

Some P2 million worth of scholarships and other grants and prizes are at stake in the regional, zonal and national championships.

The national champion will get P500,000 in grants from FilOil Flying V and will represent the country to the 2009 Universiade Games to be held in Serbia.

The Universiade brings together the top school teams and athletes from around the world in a competition similar to the Olympics.

For more details about the biggest collegiate basketball event for the year, visit

www.CollegiateChampionsLeague.net

danny
09-05-2008, 05:03 AM
"This tournament provides teams and players the opportunity to look beyond their mother leagues and aim for higher achievements such as the regional and zonal championship and the chance to be crowned as the Philippine champion," said Gamboa.

As part of their sponsorship support, SMART and PLDT will be conducting promotional activities in the localities where the regional and zonal championships will be held.

FilOil Flying V, on the other hand, is the title sponsor of the "Sweet 16" Final Challenge and provides grants for scholarship and athletic facilities to the top four finalists.

A total of 212 teams from nine regional areas nationwide are participating in the search for the best collegiate teams in the country.



Since MVP's support to unify the NCAA and UAAP fell on deaf ears, it should be no surprise if he wants that vision to be realized beyond these two leagues via* a "legitimate" national games in the PCCL.

After the NCAA, I will try to encourage Bedans to take this competition seriously.* Papogi points* para mas madami pang biyayang ibato sa San Beda si MVP.* :D :)

CrossOver
09-05-2008, 07:53 PM
Wish ko mag Champion ang mga nasa South Team para tong mga nasa UAAP & NCAA teams ay seryosohin ang PCCL dahil dito lang sa Ligang ito malalaman kung anong team ang tunay na Philippines College Basketball Champion!

D_I_A
09-06-2008, 07:07 PM
Wish ko mag Champion ang mga nasa South Team para tong mga nasa UAAP & NCAA teams ay seryosohin ang PCCL dahil dito lang sa Ligang ito malalaman kung anong team ang tunay na Philippines College Basketball Champion!


South Teams? How about those in the North?

Kahit sinong team basta nasa labas ng Big Four Colllegiate Leagues - UAAP, NCAA, NAASCU and CESAFI

CrossOver
09-07-2008, 10:15 PM
South Like Cebu CESAFI* ;D

insulares
09-10-2008, 09:46 AM
CHAMPIONS LEAGUE

Don Bosco TC stays clean



Don Bosco Technical College edged San Beda College-Alabang, 90-86, recently to score its third straight victory in the NCAA South basketball tournament at the SBC-A gym.


Following San Beda’s defeat, DBTC remained as the only undefeated team in the nine-team field.

DBTC earlier whipped Colegio de San Juan de Letran Calamba, 86-70; and Philippine Christian University-Dasmariñas, 76-65.

SBC-A stayed in second place with a 3-1 win-loss card followed by Lyceum of the Philippines-Batangas at 2-1.

Rounding out the standings are University of Perpetual Help System-Laguna 2-2, De La Salle Lipa 1-1, First Asia Institute of Technology and Humanities-Batangas 1-1, PCU-Dasmariñas 1-2, Letran-Calamba 0-2 and San Pablo Colleges 0-3.

No team from the NCAA-South has played in the Sweet Sixteen Finals of the ongoing SMART-PLDT Champions League.

The top two teams in the NCAA-South will advance into the zonal championships.

The champion team will join Zone together with the Region 3 (Naga/Quezon provinces) champion, UAAP fourth placer, and three wild card entries.

The runner-up will be at the Zone 1 championship with the NCAA fourth placer, champion teams of Region 1 (Ilocos/Baguio) and Region 2 (Pangasinan/Pampanga) and two wild card entries.

The top two teams in the four zonal championships will join the elite FilOil Flying V "Sweet 16" Final Challenge to be held in Manila in November.

Automatically seeded in the "Sweet 16" are the finalists in the University Athletic Association of the Philippines (UAAP) and the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) and the champions of the National Athletics Association of Schools, Colleges Universities (NAASCU).

Also automatically seeded are the finalists of the Colleges and Universities Sports Association (CUSA), Universities and Colleges Athletic Association (UCAA) and the Cebu Schools Athletic Foundation Inc. (CESAFI).

For more details about the biggest collegiate basketball event for the year sponsored by SMART and PLDT, visit the official website, www.CollegiateChampionsLeague.net

http://www.mb.com.ph/SPRT20080910134794.html

oca
09-30-2008, 12:11 PM
The PCCL has not yet allowed players from Team B to be elevated into the upcoming PCCL Championships. And will probably stay the same.

Ang isa pang magiging problema ng PCCL is the availability of the other players because of the PBL. Last year DLSU and UE pulled out because of their players' committment to the PBL

Okay ang team without Pong, Du and Garvo.
Let this be the start of the learning process of playing without Pong.
Tecson, Tirona, Gamalinda and Soliman can step up to the plate.

For the third straight year, we may get the number 2 ranking.


The above was posted at the Lion's Den. I deemed it fit to copy and share my thoughts here.

Kung may isang salita ang mga taga-UAAP, their members should not pull out for lack of players and in fact be competing with full rosters.

I say this taking into account the events following their rejection of the proposal to merge the UAAP and NCAA.

They said then, through an official press statement, that they will instead support an event that is similar to the concept of the CCL. It was the league itself speaking and not just one or two teams.

Sabagay, kailan ba nagkaroon ng malinaw at consistent na usapan sa Board nila?* ::)

The_Big_Cat
09-30-2008, 02:19 PM
Yes. Ito talaga ang nakikita ko na hadlang para magkaroon tayo ng matagumpay ng PCCL.

Last year, Rico Maierhoffer (Harbour Centre), Ty Tang (Harbour Centre), Cholo Villanueva (Toyota-Otis) and JV Casio (Toyota-Otis) had PBL committments which led to the withdrawal of La Salle (2007 number 1 seeding).

The same din ang nangyari sa UE. Mark Borboran (Hapee), Pari Llagas (Bacchus), Hans Thiele (Bacchus), Kelvin Gregorio (Henkel), Jorel Canizares (Pharex) and Marcy Arellano (Burger King). Nag pull out din sila

Now if the PCCL will grant the elevation of Team B players to replace Team A players in the PCCL, mawawala ng saysay itong PCCL, instead it will only turn this league into another Summer/Pre-season tournament.

The PCCL must make sure that those who all qualified into the sweet 16 will participate para mapanatili ang intergrity ng ONE NATIONAL CHAMPION na inaasam-asam ng mga organizers at basketball fans.

ridgemark
09-30-2008, 06:25 PM
Suggestion lang, the champion team should bring home the championship trophy of all the other leagues. This way the pride of each collegiate league will be put at stake and perhaps they will take this seriously.

Kung papayag...

CrossOver
10-05-2008, 10:51 PM
Kelan ba start ng PCCL? excited na kasi ako gusto ko ng makita yung mga talented player from South.

chinito_guy
10-06-2008, 09:54 AM
Sino sino na ang sure na may spot sa Sweet 16 ngaun ng PCCL? cno at saang team ang ipapalit sa spot ng CESAFI kung sakaling di nga sila sumama sa PCCL this year?l

thadzonline
10-06-2008, 10:02 AM
I think there was no talk of CeSAFI withdrawing from PCCL. As it looks now, UV will be there again

chinito_guy
10-06-2008, 10:33 AM
I think there was no talk of CeSAFI withdrawing from PCCL. As it looks now, UV will be there again


That's good news! =) I would love to watch UV play again against tough collegiate teams here in the Metro. Good Luck UV!

Anyone knows if Olympians can still make it to PCCL? Paano po ba ang format for those who did not automatically qualified for the sweet 16? I heard AMA Titans won Region 6 title in Ormoc? ???

thadzonline
10-06-2008, 11:19 AM
may zonal qualifiers pa ata. di lang ako sure sa NCR format. But yung CeSAFI 2nd and 3rd placers will be playing in Cebu and CDO zonals respectively

chinito_guy
10-06-2008, 11:35 AM
Ok! thnks again sir

KingRedLion
10-06-2008, 11:58 AM
Kelan ba start ng PCCL? excited na kasi ako gusto ko ng makita yung mga talented player from South.


According to their website, it starts Nov.23.

CrossOver
10-06-2008, 07:50 PM
^ganun ba ma check na lang pala website nila for more details salamat.

nastrans
10-06-2008, 09:24 PM
I think STI will given a slot in the Zonals.

Ito na ang may berth sa Sweet 16

Ateneo (UAAP Champion)
San Beda (NCAA Champion)
La Salle (UAAP Runner-up)
JRU (NCAA Runner-up)
Universal College of Nursing (UCAA Champion) or Arellano University (NCRAA Champion)
San Sebastian College Recoletos de Cavite (NAASCU Champion)
MLQU (CUSA Champion, according to Rey Gamboa pasok daw ulit although mukhang hindi nagpatournament CUSA this year)

One more slot:

CESAFI Champion (Most likely UV ulit)

thadzonline
10-06-2008, 10:13 PM
in what Zone are the Olympians playing?

nastrans
10-06-2008, 10:27 PM
thadz
OT: Champs na ba UV? :)

Based on PCCL Powerpoint, it's either STI will be playing in either Zone 1 or 2, mukhang wild card entry sila e.

thadzonline
10-07-2008, 08:50 AM
Slaughter scored only 2 points and outside gunner Ritchum Dennison also submited only 2 points as USJR takes Game 3, 86-53

The_Big_Cat
10-07-2008, 09:08 AM
Slaughter scored only 2 points and outside gunner Ritchum Dennison also submited only 2 points as USJR takes Game 3, 86-53
What?! UV got "Slaughtered". Televised pa naman ang game 3 mamaya.

chinito_guy
10-07-2008, 10:35 AM
thadz
OT: Champs na ba UV? :)

Based on PCCL Powerpoint, it's either STI will be playing in either Zone 1 or 2, mukhang wild card entry sila e.


Thnks sir!

What time po ang airing sa cable ng laro between Jaguars at Lancers? I can't wait to watch the sweet 16 of the PCCL in action, the best of the Philippines Collegiate basketball team in 1 league, very cool in deed!

I hope na maganda ipakita ng mga galing Dagupan (LNU "Dukes" ata nakapasok) nakita ko ung website ng PCCL, nasa Region 2 pala sila mapaplaban pa sila sa (HAU at LSB) tapos may isang wildCard??? Masaya to!

The_Big_Cat
10-07-2008, 12:41 PM
What time po ang airing sa cable ng laro between Jaguars at Lancers? I can't wait to watch the sweet 16 of the PCCL in action, the best of the Philippines Collegiate basketball team in 1 league, very cool in deed!

Either 5:00 or 7:00 pm

pachador
10-07-2008, 12:48 PM
did UV intentionally lose to get better placement in the zonal eliminations? or mali ako? i have not read the details of how the zonal assignments work.

thadzonline
10-07-2008, 01:28 PM
why would they want to go through the zonals when if they won, they would have had an automatic sweet 16 slot. I would believe it more if it was for CeSAFI making more money out of the crowd ;P

chinito_guy
10-08-2008, 10:35 AM
did UV intentionally lose to get better placement in the zonal eliminations? or mali ako? i have not read the details of how the zonal assignments work.


why would they want to go through the zonals when if they won, they would have had an automatic sweet 16 slot. I would believe it more if it was for CeSAFI making more money out of the crowd ;P


What's the latest standings in the Lancer-Jaguar Series?

-insane-
10-08-2008, 01:19 PM
2-1 na poh lancers leads the series

thadzonline
10-08-2008, 10:43 PM
Lancers win 8th straight CeSAFI title. Greg Slaughter named Finals MVP.

USJ-R will play in Zone 3 qualifying for the PCCL while USC, who earlier denied UC 3rd place honors will play in Zone 4

-insane-
10-09-2008, 01:54 PM
8th straight for the green lancers hehehe parang boston c's

amdgc82
10-10-2008, 06:46 AM
Friday, October 10, 2008
SLU tops regional collegiate meet
By Roderick Osis
www.sunstar.com.ph

SAINT Louis University (SLU) outlasted Cordillera Career Development College (CCDA), 93-86, Monday to top the Region 1 tournament of the Smart-PLDT 2008 Philippine Collegiate Championship League (PCCL) at the University of Northern Philippines (UNP) gym in Vigan City.

And it was redemption of sorts for Navigator mentor Robert Dacanay who lost to CCDC during their three game final series to taking second crown in the 22nd Baguio-Benguet Educational Athletic League (BBEAL) since joining in 2004.

CCDC earlier dominated Mariano Marcos State University, 80-64 to barge into the finals.

The two teams arranged an all-Baguio finals with Baguio champion SLU beating Vigan titlist UNP, 77-69.

"Defense was a big key for our victory and we were able to contain their main scorer Harold (Sabado) with only 12 points in the game," Dacanay said in an interview Wednesday afternoon.

Dacanay owed the win to the hardworking members of the team despite being tired after the series with CCDC and will now represent the city for a berth in the PCCL when it battle the winner of the Pangasinan-Pampanga zonal meet.

"We just enjoyed the game despite not having a 'go-to guy' unlike CCDC but we just did our best especially our balanced scoring and we were given the chance to play them in the finals. Luckily for us, we beat them," Dacanay continued.

SLU, the Baguio champion, became the sixth regional winner in the PCCL, which will culminate in the "Sweet 16" Final Challenge to be held in Manila in November.

The Navigators brought home the regional champion cup and the certificate of award for athletic items courtesy of Sonak Sports, distributor of Molten, official ball of PCCL.

It will join NCAA fourth placer Mapua Institute of Technology, the NCAA-South runner-up; Region 2 champion Lyceum of the Philippines and two wild-card entries in the Zonal competitions.

The top two in the Zonal championships advance to the Manila finals.

amdgc82
10-10-2008, 06:48 AM
BIZLINKS By Rey Gamboa
Friday, October 10, 2008
www.philstar.com

Collegiate Champions League update

Congratulations to University of Visayas Green Lancers for winning back-to-back CESAFI championships. The top Cebu collegiate team will also once again see action in the elite “Sweet 16” group that will compete in the the last phase in the ongoing SMART-PLDT Philippine Collegiate Championship games.

Other qualifiers in the FilOil Flying V “Sweet 16” Final Challenge are Ateneo Blue Eagles, San Beda Red Lions, De La Salle Green Archers, Jose Rizal Heavy Bombers, San Sebastian College-Recoletos Cavite Baycats and Manuel L. Quezon University Stallions.

Congratulations, too, to Don Bosco Technical College-Mandaluyong and Lyceum of the Philippine-Batangas, champion and runner-up respectively of the recently concluded NCAA-South competitions. Both squads advance to the zonal championships with Don Bosco joining UE Warriors, UAAP fourth placer, at Zone 2 and Lyceum-Batangas competing at Zone 1 with NCAA round-of-four finalist, Mapua Cardinals.

For more details about the biggest collegiate basketball event for the year sponsored by SMART and PLDT, visit the official website, www.CollegiateChampionsLeague.net

eightyfiver
10-10-2008, 03:17 PM
Kailan at saan po ang venue ng zonals?

amdgc82
10-10-2008, 10:30 PM
http://www.collegiatechampionsleague.net/Images/sweet%20sixteen%20copy.png

ryanniex
10-10-2008, 10:37 PM
Lancers win 8th straight CeSAFI title. Greg Slaughter named Finals MVP.

USJ-R will play in Zone 3 qualifying for the PCCL while USC, who earlier denied UC 3rd place honors will play in Zone 4


thadz paki check ung website ng pccl, may mali... kami dapat ang 3rd hindi ang uc, bat uc naka lagay? pati pa naman dito sa pccl dadayain pa kami, dinaya na nga kami sa battle for 3rd place, talaga bang hindi nla ebibigay sa amin ang 3rd place?

amdgc82
10-11-2008, 06:34 AM
Saturday, October 11, 2008
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2008/10/11/sports/uv.shoots.for.cesafi.juniors.crown.html

x x x x x x x x x x

Meanwhile, in another development, the University of San Carlos Warriors, who collared the third place honors after sneaking past the University of Cebu by a hairline, 70-69 to finish the series, 2-1 are not the only ones going to the Philippine Collegiate Champions League (PCCL) zonals.

For the effort they put up, the UC Webmasters were granted a wildcard slot to the (PCCL) by league chairman Rey Gamboa.

USC will compete in the zonals in Cagayan de Oro on Nov. 14 to 16, while UC will play in Ormoc on Nov. 15 to 17, alongside Cesafi runnerup University of San Jose Recoletos.

Cesafi commissioner Felix Tiukinhoy said they separated UC and USC so that they will get a chance to test their mettle against different Manila opponents. Letran will play in Ormoc, while Far Eastern University will play in Cagayan de Oro.

Berths

UV claimed automatic berths to the Sweet 16 after winning the Cesafi.

x x x x x x x x x x

amdgc82
10-11-2008, 06:41 AM
Saturday, October 11, 2008
Wildcats, Kings dispute title
By Marianne Saberon-Abalayan
www.sunstar.com.ph

DAVAO City champion University of Mindanao (UM) Wildcats and runner-up Jose Maria College (JMC) Kings arranged another titular showdown anew after beating teams from General Santos City in the 2008 Philippine Collegiate Championship League (PCCL) Regional crossover semifinals at the Gaisano South (GS) Citimall SkyGym on Thursday.

The Wildcats ripped the General Santos number 2 squad Ramon Magsaysay Memorial College (RMMC), 90-64, while the Kings pulled off a 101-94 win over General Santos top team Holy Trinity College.

Gryan Mendoza topscored with 17 points for the Wildcats coached by Roderick Conda, while Mark Anthony Oczon and Jay Lantingan drilled in 16 and 12 points, respectively, for RMMC.

In the main game, the Kings pulled away with an eight-point lead at halftime and stretched their margin by 10 points at the end of the third canto.
But HTC rallied to close the gap and force an 84-all tie in the final four minutes. A seesaw battle then ensued.

The Dindo Pastor-coached Kings, however, put up a stiff defense to foil HTC's attempts at the basket to snatch a one-point advantage, 92-91 with one minute and 39 seconds left.

The Kings never looked back from there to seal the win after HTC succumbed to costly shooting errors in the final minute.

John Adalin scored 24 points to lead the Kings while Ivan Lu added 17. HTC's Kevin Pragados scored a game-high 25, while Wendy Versoza added 24.

RMMC and HTC were still battling for third place as of press time.

The basketball tournament is sanctioned by BAP-SBP regional director Regino "Boy" Cua.

amdgc82
10-11-2008, 07:27 AM
Kailan at saan po ang venue ng zonals?


Zone 1 – Nov. 4-6, Venue: Makati Coliseum or Ynares Sports Center or Cuneta Astrodome
Zone 2 – Nov. 7-9, Venue: Makati Coliseum or Ynares Sports Center or Cuneta Astrodome
Zone 3 – Nov 9-11, Venue: Ormoc City Dome
Zone 4 – Nov 14-16, Venue: Xavier University Gym, Cagayan de Oro

thadzonline
10-11-2008, 03:35 PM
I'm a bit confused about the real format for the PCCL zonals.

In the following powerpoint presentation, it mentioned that there are no wildcard entries for the zone 3 games:

http://www.collegiatechampionsleague.net/CCL%20FINAL%20-%2010Apr08.ppt

In a more recent news article, there was mention that UC will be a zone 3 wildcard in Ormoc:

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2008/10/11/sports/uv.shoots.for.cesafi.juniors.crown.html

the slot for a school team from the host team seem to be taken away. AMA Computer Learning Center Ormoc Titans qualified as Region 6 champions and not entered as representative of host city Ormoc.

My questions are:
1. What is the final format of the zonals?(since it is obvious that changes were introduced compared to the one in the PPT link I posted above)

2. Wildcard entries from Manila have to go through a qualifying round to determine wildcard entries in the different zones. Isn't it unfair to them that UC was afforded an automatic wildcard slot while they are not?

3. How about non-aligned schools like Cebu's ACT Cyberknights and SIT Skyblazers? Seems like they were left out, and no chance to even get in as a wildcard. ACT has proven it can keep up with the top CeSAFI schools, they'd definitely rank within the top 6 college teams in Cebu the others being UV, USJ-R, USC, UC and SWU. At least they deserve a chance.

4. In the past there were complaints of the PCCL draw not being fair and favors were given to those who had the right connections. It seems like this is happening again and it does not look good from a fairness perspective.

5. It's also pretty unfair for CeSAFI to have 2 teams playing in 1 zone. Sana sa zone 1 or 2 na lang pinasok ang UC.

6. It is also unfair for USJ-R to be challenged again by a team they have eliminated in the CeSAFI semifinals. IT was to our understanding already that whoever makes it through the CeSAFI finals earn automatic berths in the zonals at least and the CeSAFI champs an automatic PCCL slot. So basically, USJ-R earned that zonals right already by beating UC. Now USJ-R will have to beat them again to get to the Sweet 16. Isn't that "double jeopardy"?

thadzonline
10-11-2008, 10:52 PM
Lancers win 8th straight CeSAFI title. Greg Slaughter named Finals MVP.

USJ-R will play in Zone 3 qualifying for the PCCL while USC, who earlier denied UC 3rd place honors will play in Zone 4


thadz paki check ung website ng pccl, may mali... kami dapat ang 3rd hindi ang uc, bat uc naka lagay? pati pa naman dito sa pccl dadayain pa kami, dinaya na nga kami sa battle for 3rd place, talaga bang hindi nla ebibigay sa amin ang 3rd place?


Coach Ry,

power rankings lang yun, hindi yun final standings..pero yep, dapat na change na yun kasi tapos na season

amdgc82
10-12-2008, 10:32 AM
Coach Lipa commends refs, players & organizers
By Edgar Allan Vilbar
www.ormoc.gov.ph

http://www.ormoc.gov.ph/images/stories/coachlipa.jpg
BASKETBALL CATALYSTS. Mayor Eric Codilla, Hon. Ruben Capahi, Joe Lipa & Jimmy Uy with PCCL Regional Champions ACLC- Ormoc at Ormoc Superdome last October 1.

Coach Joe Lipa who was in Ormoc to observe the Philippine Collegiate Champions League (PCCL) Basketball Regional level competition commends the referees for their impartial officiating of the game. “While other tournaments in the country are known for hometown decisions, the officiating in Ormoc was fair & square”, he said during an interview last October 1 at Hotel Don Felipe. He attributed the discipline of referees to Ormoc’s strict policy of following rules as explained by Hon. Ruben Capahi, SP Chairman of the City Sports Committee, and the people of Ormoc City Schools Sports Organization (OCSSO).

Mr. Lipa also made a positive note to all players competing, saying that these students knew the fundamentals of basketball. “They are at par with other collegiate players in Manila,” he added. However, the judgment of when to pass or shoot are factors that need a lot of improvement, but Lipa likes the intensity of the players and the desire to win a game as a team.

When asked about the chances of this region’s collegiate teams against those from the other regional winners, Coach Lipa cites the height advantage of Manila teams as one of the determining thing as to what team will emerge as winner in the coming inter-zonal tourney that will be held before the national level tournament on November 24. A total of sixteen teams will be competing in the inter-zonal tournament which includes Letran or MIT, Cebu team, Bohol Institute of Technology, the champion Bacolod - Iloilo and a wild entry from either Manila or Cebu.

A possibility that Ormoc will be hosting the prestigious inter- zonal collegiate tournament, with full media coverage, floated after coach Lipa conversed with Mayor Eric Codilla and Hon Ruben Capahi during the games here. If it happens, the city will have a reserve slot for being the host; Bacolod City is also eyeing to host the event.

Coach Joe Lipa clarified that the PCCL is non- partisan, independent, autonomous, non- political and will involve only in college basketball development, but will respect and follow any sport body recognized by the FIBA. Coach Lipa is one of the board directors of the group and the league’s national director.*

D_I_A
10-12-2008, 02:45 PM
I'm a bit confused about the real format for the PCCL zonals.

In the following powerpoint presentation, it mentioned that there are no wildcard entries for the zone 3 games:

http://www.collegiatechampionsleague.net/CCL%20FINAL%20-%2010Apr08.ppt

In a more recent news article, there was mention that UC will be a zone 3 wildcard in Ormoc:

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2008/10/11/sports/uv.shoots.for.cesafi.juniors.crown.html

the slot for a school team from the host team seem to be taken away. AMA Computer Learning Center Ormoc Titans qualified as Region 6 champions and not entered as representative of host city Ormoc.

My questions are:
1. What is the final format of the zonals?(since it is obvious that changes were introduced compared to the one in the PPT link I posted above)

2. Wildcard entries from Manila have to go through a qualifying round to determine wildcard entries in the different zones. Isn't it unfair to them that UC was afforded an automatic wildcard slot while they are not?

3. How about non-aligned schools like Cebu's ACT Cyberknights and SIT Skyblazers? Seems like they were left out, and no chance to even get in as a wildcard. ACT has proven it can keep up with the top CeSAFI schools, they'd definitely rank within the top 6 college teams in Cebu the others being UV, USJ-R, USC, UC and SWU. At least they deserve a chance.

4. In the past there were complaints of the PCCL draw not being fair and favors were given to those who had the right connections. It seems like this is happening again and it does not look good from a fairness perspective.

5. It's also pretty unfair for CeSAFI to have 2 teams playing in 1 zone. Sana sa zone 1 or 2 na lang pinasok ang UC.

6. It is also unfair for USJ-R to be challenged again by a team they have eliminated in the CeSAFI semifinals. IT was to our understanding already that whoever makes it through the CeSAFI finals earn automatic berths in the zonals at least and the CeSAFI champs an automatic PCCL slot. So basically, USJ-R earned that zonals right already by beating UC. Now USJ-R will have to beat them again to get to the Sweet 16. Isn't that "double jeopardy"?




yes, pansin na pansin talaga..sana ipinasok na lang yung ACT or SIT para mabigyan naman yung iba ng chance.

although maganda rin na medyo maganda ang participation ng mga taga provinces and regions pero dapat i-fine tune pa ang PCCL lalo na next season marami pa din flaws.

but it's much more better now compared with BAP's Nat.Students Basketball Championships na puro hugot at talagang naging pabor sa Cebu.

i want to see as many qualifiers from the provinces and make NCR teams a run of their money.

CrossOver
10-12-2008, 11:28 PM
Bago lang naman tong PCCL sa ngayon medyo nakikita na hindi lang talaga nasa Luzon ang malalakas this coming PCCL malalaman if anong adjust pa kelangan baguhin kumporme sa magiging resulta nitong turnament.

thadzonline
10-13-2008, 09:03 AM
Actually mistulang naging invitational tournament rin sa nagyayaring ito.

amdgc82
10-13-2008, 09:11 AM
BIZLINKS By Rey Gamboa
Monday, October 13, 2008
www.philstar.com

Collegiate Champions League update

University of Luzon (Pangasinan) Golden Tigers and the University of Mindanao (Davao) Wildcats are the latest additions to the zonal championships of the SMART-PLDT-KFC Philippine Collegiate Championship Games.

The UL Golden Tigers joins Zone 1 early qualifiers St. Louie University (Baguio Champion), Lyceum-Batangas (NCAA-South runner-up), Mapua Cardinals (NCAA fourth placer) and Arellano University Chiefs (Fr. Martin Champion).

At Davao City, the University of Mindanao Wildcats captured the Region 8 championship at Gaisano Gym and joined the Zone 4 championship qualifiers that included Xavier University Crusaders (Region 7 champion); Ateneo de Zamboanga Blue Eagles (Region 9 champion); FEU Tamaraws (UAAP third placer); University of San Carlos Warriors (CESAFI third placer) and Cagayan de Oro Scorpions, a wild card qualifier.*

There are four zonal championships with six teams in each zone competing. The top two teams from each zone will join the elite group in the FilOil Flying V “Sweet 16” Final Challenge. Automatic qualifiers in this elite circle are Ateneo Blue Eagles, San Beda Red Lions, De La Salle Green Archers, Jose3 Rizal Heavy Bombers, University of Visayas Green Lancers, San Sebastian College-Recoletos Cavite Baycats, Manuel L. Quezon Univesity Stallions and the Universal College of Nursing.

For more details about the biggest collegiate basketball event for the year presented by SMART, PLDT, FilOil Flying V and KFC, visit the official website, www.CollegiateChampionsLeague.net

chinito_guy
10-13-2008, 09:42 AM
Kailan at saan po ang venue ng zonals?


Zone 1 – Nov. 4-6, Venue: Makati Coliseum or Ynares Sports Center or Cuneta Astrodome
Zone 2 – Nov. 7-9, Venue: Makati Coliseum or Ynares Sports Center or Cuneta Astrodome
Zone 3 – Nov 9-11, Venue: Ormoc City Dome
Zone 4 – Nov 14-16, Venue: Xavier University Gym, Cagayan de Oro



Wow! please keep us updated on the Venue! =)

m_14
10-13-2008, 11:31 AM
anong liga po ba galing ang UNIVERSAL COLLEGE OF NURSING??? they're already seeded kasi e.

thadzonline
10-13-2008, 12:07 PM
i Think that's either NCRAA/UCAA ang liga ng UCN

chinito_guy
10-13-2008, 12:17 PM
anong liga po ba galing ang UNIVERSAL COLLEGE OF NURSING??? they're already seeded kasi e.


Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UCAA

The Universities and Colleges Athletic Association (UCAA) is an athletic association of colleges and universities in the Philippines. It was established in 2002. The season is usually held during the first semester of the school year, which regularly starts from August to October.

Member Schools
Asian College of Science and Technology - ACSAT Lightnings
De La Salle University-Dasmariñas - DLSU-D Patriots
Emilio Aguinaldo College - EAC Generals
Las Pinas College - LPC Blue Lions
Olivarez College - Olivarez Sea Lions
Philippine School of Business Administration - PSBA Jaguars
Saint Francis of Assisi College System - St. Francis Doves
Universal College of Nursing - UCN Dragons
Trace College - TRACE Red Stallions

UCAA Basketball Champions
2002: St Francis Doves def. PSBA-QC Jaguars
2003: St Francis Doves def. PSBA-QC Jaguars
2004: EAC Generals def. PSBA-QC Jaguars
2005: EAC Generals def. DLSU-D Patriots
2006: EAC Generals def. St Francis Doves
2007: St Francis Doves def. ACSAT Lightnings
2008: UCN Dragons def. EAC Generals

nastrans
10-13-2008, 02:08 PM
Universal College of Nursing is only a member of the UCAA as they dont participate in the NCRAA.

Medyo rise to fame din sila, last season they went just 2-12 before making a drastic turnaround this year, too bad I didn't see them play but from last year medyo may pagkarun and gun team sila.

thadzonline
10-13-2008, 02:54 PM
ohh ok...curious lang ako kasi yung sa bracket na nirelease dati yung isang slot ay for UCAA/NCRAA..Sino ba NCRAA champs? Hindi ba sila nagreklamo?

m_14
10-13-2008, 05:59 PM
sinu-sino mga notable players ng UNIVERSAL COLLEGE OF NURSING??

nastrans
10-13-2008, 06:30 PM
ohh ok...curious lang ako kasi yung sa bracket na nirelease dati yung isang slot ay for UCAA/NCRAA..Sino ba NCRAA champs? Hindi ba sila nagreklamo?


Arellano University ang two-time defending NCRAA champions. Kaso problema eh kapag second sem na sila nagheheld at natatapos na ng mga February or even early March kung baga by the time na PCCL na eh iba na yung lineup na magrerepresent sa PCCL.



sinu-sino mga notable players ng UNIVERSAL COLLEGE OF NURSING??


Ang mga notable players ng UCN Dragons ay si UCAA MVP Cedric Matugas, Mike Montilla at Lester Reyes. The team is mentored by Yong Garcia.

thadzonline
10-13-2008, 09:08 PM
ohh ok...curious lang ako kasi yung sa bracket na nirelease dati yung isang slot ay for UCAA/NCRAA..Sino ba NCRAA champs? Hindi ba sila nagreklamo?


Arellano University ang two-time defending NCRAA champions. Kaso problema eh kapag second sem na sila nagheheld at natatapos na ng mga February or even early March kung baga by the time na PCCL na eh iba na yung lineup na magrerepresent sa PCCL.



sinu-sino mga notable players ng UNIVERSAL COLLEGE OF NURSING??


Ang mga notable players ng UCN Dragons ay si UCAA MVP Cedric Matugas, Mike Montilla at Lester Reyes. The team is mentored by Yong Garcia.


ohh ok, thanks. I think may wildcard or Zone seeding naman ang Arellano U

clutchjedi
10-31-2008, 09:38 AM
Obviously, a lot of us would have our own ideas how to improve the PCCL format for future years. Though not perfect, I still think they've done a good job overall this year, and just hope they could consider the various feedback from different sectors (including basketball fans like us :)), for future tourneys.

My personal preference would actually be to lessen the non-champion teams (especially from Manila) and give more visibility to the regional champs.

So my modest proposal would be to:
1) scrap the zonals - regional champs go directly to the Sweet 16
2) discontinue slots for Manila non-champs, except for maybe one wild card
3) have a FIBA-Asia style sweet 16

I've described it below - I think it's a format that balances competition (having deserving teams) and geographic representation (visibility for provincial teams). Of course, if anyone has other ideas, it'd be great to see those as well, and hopefully our friends from PCCL could consider :)


CURRENT PCCL FORMAT

>> 24 teams in Zonals:
* * *- regional champs (9 teams)
** **- Manila/CeSAFI runners-up and wild cards (15 teams)

>> Zonals: 4 zones of 6 > round-robin > 60 games!
* * *- top 2 per zone advance to sweet 16

>> Sweet 16: single-elimination playoff > 15 games


MY PROPOSED FORMAT (FIBA-Asia style)

>> retain regional championships

>> but scrap the Zonals: put 9 regional champs DIRECTLY in Sweet 16
** **- regional champs (9 teams)
* * *- add Manila/CeSAFI champs & 1 wild card (7 teams)

>> The 7 teams would be: UAAP, NCAA, CeSAFI, CUSA, NAASCU, UCAA champs plus JUST ONE wild card
* * *- wild card could come from mini-qualifier between NCAA-S champ, UAAP #2, NCAA #2, CeSAFI #2, NCRAA champ, etc.

>> Sweet 16 (First round): have 4 groups of 4 > round-robin > 24 games
* * *- top 2 per group advance to Elite Eight

>> Elite Eight: single-elimination crossover playoff > 7 games


Advantages:
- Less total games, easier to manage logistics and complete TV coverage
- Without the zonals, the Sweet 16 can start earlier
- We get to see 9 provincial teams! In the current format it could be an all-Manila/CeSAFI show
- Each provincial team is assured of least 3 games - mas sulit sa effort & expense, and better for us viewers!
- More prestige, since the national champ is a league/regional champ, or at least a very deserving wild card.

D_I_A
10-31-2008, 09:46 AM
Obviously, a lot of us would have our own ideas how to improve the PCCL format for future years. Though not perfect, I still think they've done a good job overall this year, and just hope they could consider the various feedback from different sectors (including basketball fans like us :)), for future tourneys.

My personal preference would actually be to lessen the non-champion teams (especially from Manila) and give more visibility to the regional champs.

So my modest proposal would be to:
1) scrap the zonals - regional champs go directly to the Sweet 16
2) discontinue slots for Manila non-champs, except for maybe one wild card
3) have a FIBA-Asia style sweet 16

I've described it below - I think it's a format that balances competition (having deserving teams) and geographic representation (visibility for provincial teams). Of course, if anyone has other ideas, it'd be great to see those as well, and hopefully our friends from PCCL could consider :)


CURRENT PCCL FORMAT

>> 24 teams in Zonals:
* * *- regional champs (9 teams)
** **- Manila/CeSAFI runners-up and wild cards (15 teams)

>> Zonals: 4 zones of 6 > round-robin > 60 games!
* * *- top 2 per zone advance to sweet 16

>> Sweet 16: single-elimination playoff > 15 games


MY PROPOSED FORMAT (FIBA-Asia style)

>> retain regional championships

>> but scrap the Zonals: put 9 regional champs DIRECTLY in Sweet 16
** **- regional champs (9 teams)
* * *- add Manila/CeSAFI champs & 1 wild card (7 teams)

>> The 7 teams would be: UAAP, NCAA, CeSAFI, CUSA, NAASCU, UCAA champs plus JUST ONE wild card
* * *- wild card could come from mini-qualifier between NCAA-S champ, UAAP #2, NCAA #2, CeSAFI #2, NCRAA champ, etc.

>> Sweet 16 (First round): have 4 groups of 4 > round-robin > 24 games
* * *- top 2 per group advance to Elite Eight

>> Elite Eight: single-elimination crossover playoff > 7 games


Advantages:
- Less total games, easier to manage logistics and complete TV coverage
- Without the zonals, the Sweet 16 can start earlier
- We get to see 9 provincial teams! In the current format it could be an all-Manila/CeSAFI show
- Each provincial team is assured of least 3 games - mas sulit sa effort & expense, and better for us viewers!
- More prestige, since the national champ is a league/regional champ, or at least a very deserving wild card.




pwede dapat naman talaga mas marami ang regional and provincial representation.

pero siguro gusto lang i-spice up ang competition with the inclusion of NCR teams

clutchjedi
10-31-2008, 10:01 AM
^ Also would like to add:

If desired, like FIBA-Asia, there could also be a loser's bracket for the 5th-8th and 9th-16th teams -
- more games for the provincial teams
- each team has a goal to shoot for, e.g. we finished 16th last year; so this year we'll try to finish at least 9th-12th :)

h2o
10-31-2008, 11:40 PM
I'm a bit confused about the real format for the PCCL zonals.

In the following powerpoint presentation, it mentioned that there are no wildcard entries for the zone 3 games:

http://www.collegiatechampionsleague.net/CCL%20FINAL%20-%2010Apr08.ppt

In a more recent news article, there was mention that UC will be a zone 3 wildcard in Ormoc:

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2008/10/11/sports/uv.shoots.for.cesafi.juniors.crown.html

the slot for a school team from the host team seem to be taken away. AMA Computer Learning Center Ormoc Titans qualified as Region 6 champions and not entered as representative of host city Ormoc.

My questions are:
1. What is the final format of the zonals?(since it is obvious that changes were introduced compared to the one in the PPT link I posted above)

2. Wildcard entries from Manila have to go through a qualifying round to determine wildcard entries in the different zones. Isn't it unfair to them that UC was afforded an automatic wildcard slot while they are not?

3. How about non-aligned schools like Cebu's ACT Cyberknights and SIT Skyblazers? Seems like they were left out, and no chance to even get in as a wildcard. ACT has proven it can keep up with the top CeSAFI schools, they'd definitely rank within the top 6 college teams in Cebu the others being UV, USJ-R, USC, UC and SWU. At least they deserve a chance.

4. In the past there were complaints of the PCCL draw not being fair and favors were given to those who had the right connections. It seems like this is happening again and it does not look good from a fairness perspective.

5. It's also pretty unfair for CeSAFI to have 2 teams playing in 1 zone. Sana sa zone 1 or 2 na lang pinasok ang UC.

6. It is also unfair for USJ-R to be challenged again by a team they have eliminated in the CeSAFI semifinals. IT was to our understanding already that whoever makes it through the CeSAFI finals earn automatic berths in the zonals at least and the CeSAFI champs an automatic PCCL slot. So basically, USJ-R earned that zonals right already by beating UC. Now USJ-R will have to beat them again to get to the Sweet 16. Isn't that "double jeopardy"?



kasi ang nangyari nito ang Ormoc ay syang host at ang Ormoc din ang nag champion doon sa regional represented by AMA-ACLC Titans that would qualify them for Zonal entry at base doon sa presentation doon sa powerpoint page 7 an dapat yung host ay magkakaroon ng entry sa Zonal, since AMA as Regional 6 Champion doon nya nagamit at as being host so mi wildcard entry ang host at dapat sana yung 1st runner-up ng OCSSO (Ormoc League) which is WLC at unfortunately nagkaproblema yung team so they gave up the slot as same as to the next runner-up from the league ganoon din mi problema internally, so fortunately UC was given the chance on that wildcard entry to Zone Area 3 Game