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Schortsanitis
12-19-2007, 09:00 AM
Well, the Gabby Espinas trade is now official:

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http://sports.inquirer.net/breakingnews/breakingnews/view_article.php?article_id=107702

Air21 acquires Espinas; Carey Cardona fined, suspended

By June Navarro
Philippine Daily Inquirer

Posted date: December 19, 2007

MANILA, Philippines -- Gabby Espinas became the latest addition to Air21’s athletic lineup after acquiring the 6-foot-4 sophomore from Magnolia for one of the three first-round picks of the Express next season.
Air21 coach Bo Perasol said the arrival of Espinas will provide more flexibility in his rotation since he could field in the 2004 NCAA rookie-MVP either at the wings or at the post.

Perasol also said that Wynne Arboleda will be back in harness against Talk ‘N Text tonight after the playmaker missed the Express’ recent back-to-back losses due to conjunctivitis.

In another development, Harvey Carey and Mac Cardona were fined P20,000 each on top of suspensions for unsportsmanlike conduct during Talk ‘N Text’s previous victory over Welcoat.

Cardona was suspended for one game after he hit Hercules Tangkay with a clothesline tackle in the waning minutes of the third quarter. Carey, who pushed Tangkay at the height of the altercation, will sit out the Phone Pals’ next two games.

PBA technical chief Perry Martinez said the league imposed the stiffer penalty on Carey for directly involving himself in a fight and rushing to the scene of a melee that he should not have been a part of.

The league deferred its decision on what penalty to impose on Welcoat’s Ryan Araña, who committed a flagrant foul on Coca-Cola’s Asi Taulava during Sunday’s game.

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gameface_one
12-30-2007, 08:58 AM
Cañaleta on trading block



By WAYLON GALVEZ
mb.com.ph



HIGH-FLYING FORWARD Niño Cañaleta is rumored to be on the trading block and that Air21 is negotiating with several teams.


This was revealed by a source yesterday, saying that three teams are interested in acquiring the services of the 6-foot-5 Cañaleta, the defending three-time Slam Dunk champion in the annual PBA All-Star Weekend.

The Express, who dropped five of their last six games, currently sport a 6-10 win-loss card, and their 110-123 setback from Magnolia Beverage two days back eliminated them in the race for an outright semifinals berth in the PBA Smart-Philippine Cup.

Last week, Air21 coach Bo Perasol revealed that when he missed their game against Coca-Cola, it was with the blessing of management to see how his players would respond without him after they dropped four straight matches.

The Express responded with a 102-97 win that snapped the Tigers’ five-game winning streak.

Perasol was asked by management to return, but unfortunately, Magnolia was too strong for Air21.

Negotiating for a trade involving the third year forward Cañaleta could be one of the actions the Express need to boost their chance for an automatic quarterfinals seat.

The Bulletin tried to contact Cañaleta’s agent, Ed Ponceja, but he was not available for comment.

However, a team insider, who asked not to be named, said that knowing Air21 and its history of trading star players, dealing Cañaleta, no doubt one of the team’s marquee players, is very "possible."

"The management has always the prerogative to decide what’s best for the team," the source said.

In the past, Air21 dealt star players Ren-Ren Ritualo to Talk ’N Text and at one time, also shipped Yancy De Ocampo to the Phone Pals. They got the 6-foot-7 center back, but he was traded anew to the same team last season.

The 27-year-old Cañaleta is currently averaging 14.5 points, 3.9 rebounds, two assists, 0.9 steal and 0.75 shot block this conference.

The former University of the East stalwart, known for his inside plays, has also improved his three-point shooting this season as well as his defense.

"He’s a big addition to any team. He’s tall, he’s quick and he’s getting better. He’s not just the high-flying forward, he really improved his game," said one PBA observer.

Last May, he was included by Chot Reyes to the SMC-Team Pilipinas that won the Southeast Asian Basketball Association (SEABA) crown in Ratchaburi, Thailand.

The teams reportedly interested in Cañaleta, selected sixth overall by Air21 during the 2005 Rookie Draft, are Talk ’N Text, Purefoods TJ Hotdogs and Barangay Ginebra.

Schortsanitis
01-03-2008, 10:11 AM
Latest trade RUMORS, from an UNPROVEN source at PEx, "civicrs2k2":

* Mark Caguioa for James Yap
* 3rd or 4th team as conduit, probably Air 21 & TNT
* Also reportedly involved are KG Canaleta, PJ Simon, Mike Holper, Renren Ritualo, Doug Kramer, & future picks

aircanda
01-03-2008, 01:49 PM
Latest trade RUMORS, from an UNPROVEN source at PEx, "civicrs2k2":

** Mark Caguioa for James Yap
** 3rd or 4th team as conduit, probably Air 21 & TNT
** Also reportedly involved are KG Canaleta, PJ Simon, Mike Holper, Renren Ritualo, Doug Kramer, & future picks


kahit na underachiver this season si the spark, sana ay wag naman siyang itrade.. mahal na mahal ko yan at ng buong barangay.. kung matuloy man.. magmumukha nang UE Red Warriors ang Ginebra.. pwede nang ilaban sa Magnolia.. ADMU vs UE na..

Schortsanitis
01-03-2008, 03:17 PM
Latest trade RUMORS, from an UNPROVEN source at PEx, "civicrs2k2":

** Mark Caguioa for James Yap
** 3rd or 4th team as conduit, probably Air 21 & TNT
** Also reportedly involved are KG Canaleta, PJ Simon, Mike Holper, Renren Ritualo, Doug Kramer, & future picks


Update: Very likely to be just a false alarm, confirmed as just plain rumors by more credible posters.

Almost no way a winning team like Purefoods will trade away their team's heart & soul, James Yap at this point since they are WINNING.

Schortsanitis
01-03-2008, 03:22 PM
kahit na underachiver this season si the spark, sana ay wag naman siyang itrade.. mahal na mahal ko yan at ng buong barangay.. kung matuloy man.. magmumukha nang UE Red Warriors ang Ginebra.. pwede nang ilaban sa Magnolia.. ADMU vs UE na..


I think some people were "fantasizing" about having Ronald Tubid & Paul Artadi (both already w/ BGK) play w/ KG Canaleta (possible trade from Air 21) & James Yap (possible trade w/ Purefoods). All 4 players are former UE Red Warriors, so having them play together would've been like "importing" the UE Red Warriors to the PBA.

Not to mention of the prospect of getting UE Warrior's Mark Borboran & Marcy Arellano in next year's draft.

BigBlue
01-03-2008, 03:42 PM
mga ganitong post mas bagay ata sa Tsimis Thread (http://www.gameface.ph/forums/index.php?topic=2026.0).

mighty_lion
01-03-2008, 04:10 PM
I find it hard to believe na willing itrade ng Purefoods si James Yap. Same goes with Cagioua. Both players have yet to reach thier prime.

aircanda
01-03-2008, 04:32 PM
I think some people were "fantasizing" about having Ronald Tubid & Paul Artadi (both already w/ BGK) play w/ KG Canaleta (possible trade from Air 21) & James Yap (possible trade w/ Purefoods).* All 4 players are former UE Red Warriors, so having them play together would've been like "importing" the UE Red Warriors to the PBA.

Not to mention of the prospect of getting UE Warrior's Mark Borboran & Marcy Arellano in next year's draft.



sir.. alam nio po ba kung ano ang order ng mga teams na kukuha ng picks this year?

joelex
01-04-2008, 07:47 PM
there are on going talks between Welcoat and Ginebra that would send Caguioa to the Dragons for Uichico boy Nic Belasco.

aircanda
01-04-2008, 11:18 PM
there are on going talks between Welcoat and Ginebra that would send Caguioa to the Dragons for Uichico boy Nic Belasco.


PEx din po ba galeng? kung totoo.. lugi ginebra.. and i believe Welcoat should not trade Belasco.. their frontline isnt that imposing yet..

bakit ba puro si Caguioa na lang lage ang nasa trading block? :(

Schortsanitis
01-05-2008, 10:19 AM
sir.. alam nio po ba kung ano ang order ng mga teams na kukuha ng picks this year?


'Base sa team standings at the end of the 2007 season ang order ng picks para sa 2008 Rookie Draft. So mapa finalize ang order pagkatapos ng 2007 PBA season.'

Schortsanitis
01-05-2008, 10:25 AM
I haven't seen any post at PEx lately about a Caguioa-Belasco trade. So whatever the source of that rumor is, it doesn't seem to come from PEx.

aircanda
01-05-2008, 05:36 PM
thanks schort..

yokam
01-22-2008, 09:40 PM
I don't think Mark Cagiuoa and James Yap are going anywhere. These guys are considered "untouchables" for now. If I were to create a trade, I will send away Danny Ildefonso and probably Larry Fonacier to Purefoods for Marc Pingris and a future second round pick.

Imagine how strong Magnolia would be especially if they'd also consider a coaching change.

Schortsanitis
02-04-2008, 01:53 PM
Taken from this website:

http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/02042008/sports03.html

Ex-Eagles on the move?

Larry Fonacier, meanwhile, is reportedly set to join the Purefoods Tender Juicy Giants. Fonacier, the 2005 Rookie of the Year who played for Red Bull first before he was shipped to Magnolia at the beginning of the 2007-’08 season, is set to fill up what one source says is a thin line-up at the small-forward spot. Also, another former Atenean JC Intal is said to be on the move from Air21 to Barangay Ginebra. The player Ginebra will give up to get the rookie Intal is not yet identified. --With Rick Olivares

AnthonyServinio
02-28-2008, 12:34 AM
* * *WORD FROM the grapevine is that Air21 has already or is close to coming to terms with signing rookie free agent guard Reed Friar Juntilla for the coming Reinforced Conference. A vacancy was created when the Express recently released guard George Chia to the Talk 'N Text Phone Pals.

Juntilla skipped the first game of his PBL team Hapee Toothpaste last Tuesday.

Schortsanitis
02-28-2008, 08:36 AM
^^^
Jec Chia plays point, while Reed looks more like a no. 2 to me. But, well, anyway, Reed seems to be a somewhat better scorer than Jec, but I feel Jec is the more intense player.

erichubert
02-28-2008, 09:54 AM
That is a very good signing for AIR21. Reed would be instant offense for them off the bench, this might mean less minutes for JC Intal, Reed at least is a better shooter and hundred times better defender than him, plus he can play point guard, he did so for Hapee in some instances. Btw, he also is one of the rare players who went from high school in Cebu straight to the PBL ala Lebron James :)

coreytaylor
02-28-2008, 03:42 PM
^ great pick up by the air21 express

King_stag
02-28-2008, 09:03 PM
hmm. Another scorer? maybe not exactly what they need, Gary David is healthy. Maybe to add depth, since david is always dealing with injuries. The departure of chris baluyot made the roster spot.

irateluvmachine
03-01-2008, 09:06 AM
Taken from this website:

http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/02042008/sports03.html

Ex-Eagles on the move?

Larry Fonacier, meanwhile, is reportedly set to join the Purefoods Tender Juicy Giants. Fonacier, the 2005 Rookie of the Year who played for Red Bull first before he was shipped to Magnolia at the beginning of the 2007-’08 season, is set to fill up what one source says is a thin line-up at the small-forward spot. Also, another former Atenean JC Intal is said to be on the move from Air21 to Barangay Ginebra. The player Ginebra will give up to get the rookie Intal is not yet identified. --With Rick Olivares



any updates on this trade rumor?

if i were purefoods, i'd give up a first-rounder to get larry...he just may be the heir apparent to rey evangelista, as far as small forwards go...

Schortsanitis
03-07-2008, 11:36 AM
From "Than" of PEx:

Welcoat's Nic Belasco has been traded to Coke for Mark Isip & a 2nd round draft pick.

Am assuming it is Coke's 2nd round draft pick for the coming 2008-2009 PBA season.

gameface_one
03-08-2008, 07:40 AM
Belasco goes to Tigers for Isip


By NELSON BELTRAN
The Philippine Star

Coca-Cola and Welcoat struck a trade deal Thursday night, sending veteran forward Nic Belasco to the Tigers camp in exchange for sophomore pro Mark Isip plus two future draft picks.

With the acquisition of Belasco, the Tigers have become a lot more formidable as he is expected to complement well with Asi Taulava, who joined the squad midway in the recent Philippine Cup.

From ninth place at the end of the elimination round, the Tigers rallied to finish sixth in the all-Filipino tourney topped by the Sta. Lucia Realtors. The Tigers were beaten by the Alaska Milk Aces in their best-of-three quarterfinals showdown.

Taulava and Belasco were the league’s top two rebounders in the Philippine Cup, averaging 14.6 and 13.6 caroms a game, respectively. Belasco also normed 15.5 points, 2.1 assists, 1.0 steal and 0.6 block a game for Welcoat last conference.

Welcoat was Belasco’s latest stop after his stints with Pop Cola, San Miguel Beer and Alaska Milk in a pro career starting in 1997. Belasco is 34.

Isip, on the other hand, put in only 3.1 points and 2.6 assists per game with Coca-Cola.

The deal looks one-sided in favor of Coca-Cola on the surface but the Welcoat management believes it would serve its purpose in the future.

"We want to have a young cast. We want to give Jay-R Reyes and Joe Devance with fellow young players, hoping that they mature all at the same time," said Raymund Yu, the team co-owner along with Terry Que.

"Secondly, Isip is not a bad player at all. He’s 6-foot-6 and we know him well since he played for our team in the PBL," said Yu of the former FEU Tamaraw, 27, drafted No. 6 overall by Sta. Lucia in 2006.

In yielding Belasco, the Dragons will also get the Tigers’ second round picks in 2008 and either 2009 or 2010.

Yu believed his young team, which also counts Ryan Arana, Denver Lopez, Rob Wainwright, Jireh Ibanes, Froilan Baguion and Niño Gelig among its core players, will mature and become a force to reckon with in one or two years.

With two teams floating news that they’re getting Karl Malone and Scottie Pippen as import, Yu said in jest he might as well recruit Michael Jordan.

"If Malone and Pippen are their imports, we’ll take Michael Jordan. We won’t be left behind," said Yu.

But the amiable Welcoat team owner said their choices for their two imports in the coming Fiesta Cup are down to four.

Welcoat and Coca-Cola are allowed to field two imports each after finishing 10th and ninth in the Philippine Cup elimination round.

joelex
03-08-2008, 03:09 PM
what could be welcoat's reason for this trade? is belasco really a locker room nuisance as revealed by his previous employers?

james_ty
03-08-2008, 06:50 PM
what could be welcoat's reason for this trade? is belasco really a locker room nuisance as revealed by his previous employers?




From what I know, Belasco reportedly asked for a lot of money before he signed with Welcoat.

And trading him was the best way for the Dragons to let go of an overpaid player whose career has gone downhill.

joelex
03-08-2008, 07:00 PM
just got hold of a welcoat assistant coach, anyways they are disposing off 30++ yrs old players this season. wainwright, tangkay, mente are all on the block and wont be resigned after their contract expires. They are expected to be acquired by Liga Pilipinas ballclubs, I was told.

Joescoundrel
03-09-2008, 11:15 AM
^ So it seems Liga is really going the way of the defunct MBA. I only hope they out a Lessons Learned book together. Speaking of the MBA, this might make Rob Wainwright the only player in this country's hoops history to have seen action in the MBA, PBA and soon Liga.

Schortsanitis
03-10-2008, 05:39 PM
This is not a "Trade Transaction", but what the heck:

Taken from this link: http://www.philstar.com/scripts/article_print.php?PhilStar&id=20080309125&type=2

Meanwhile, Talk n Text reinforced its frontline with its acquisition of 6-foot-7 center Gilbert Lao while Barangay Ginebra enlisted another playmaker in Chris Pacana. Both Lao and Pacana were picked from the free agent pool.


Mod, request that the title be changed to "2007-2008 PBA Season Trade Transactions & Acquisitions"

coreytaylor
03-12-2008, 07:16 PM
just got hold of a welcoat assistant coach, anyways they are disposing off 30++ yrs old players this season. wainwright, tangkay, mente are all on the block and wont be resigned after their contract expires. They are expected to be acquired by Liga Pilipinas ballclubs, I was told.


if only they will give jojo tangkay a descent playing time, im sure they will realize that his damn worth it.

sa_pula
03-14-2008, 09:19 PM
ayon sa teledyaryo sports may mangyayari daw big news sa camp ng ginebra bukas and according sa isang reliable source na trade ang mangayyari.

clue: d mo aakalain ittrade ng ginebra ng player na to!...


waaaa...wag nmn sana si mc at jj..

Schortsanitis
03-14-2008, 09:44 PM
ayon sa teledyaryo sports may mangyayari daw big news sa camp ng ginebra bukas and according sa isang reliable source na trade ang mangayyari.

clue: d mo aakalain ittrade ng ginebra ng player na to!...


waaaa...wag nmn sana si mc at jj..


'Mukhang me laman.' From Than of PEx today (Mar. 14, 2008):

A trade in the offing, would be announce in a couple of days.

A player that nobody thought he will be traded by his mother team!

No news yet as to who, but speculation from other sources say it could be no other than .... The Spark?

sa_pula
03-14-2008, 10:20 PM
MC?.. a big no no!...

joelex
03-15-2008, 12:32 AM
matagal ng rumor yung caguioa ah. back in 04 he was rumored to be headed to shell in exchange for calaguio, and just last year to welcoat for cabatu and add ons. Will the rumor finally become reality this weekend? and will it include both the fast and the furious? balitang kapalit is arwind santos and/or jc intal accoring to sources.

as for the coming 08 draft, at least 5 PBA teams are hot for the services of Beau Belga. But word is Harbour Center intends to keep him away from the draft just like what they did to Castro last year and elevate them when their franchise moves to the pro ranks. IF they move.

shyboy
03-20-2008, 07:51 AM
Alaska's Mike Cortez and Ken Bono traded to Magnolia for LA Tenorio and Larry Fonacier.

So maybe no more talk of an Ateneo team in the PBA after this?

JonarSabilano
03-20-2008, 08:31 AM
Alaska's Mike Cortez and Ken Bono traded to Magnolia for LA Tenorio and Larry Fonacier.



Ikaw naman. Sineseryoso mo masyado.

Then again, I just can't see why San Miguel got another center, when they already have Villanueva, Peña, and Eman. They did get Cortez, who will be a good understudy to Racela and might make for one of the best backcourt combinations in the league.

With this trade, Alaska gets a good point guard and another swingman. Hopefully, Alaska gives more playing time to Fonacier in the coming seasons.

Sam Miguel
03-20-2008, 09:19 AM
Getting Mike Cortez makes sense, the Cool Cat being arguably the best pure pointguard in the PBA now. (Apologies to Jay Helterbrand) Cortez will definitely learn a lot from Olsen Racela, the incumbent pointguard over at Magnolia, especially in terms of how to run a halfcourt offense and developing his court intelligence instead of relying mainly on sheer athleticism. Cortez will not lack for assist numbers here with Dondon Hontiveros, Chris Calaguio, Lourdy Tugade all needing table-setters to get their points more easily.

Ken Bono however looks like he will be headed for an even bigger doghouse in Magnolia than when he was at Alaska. How the heck the Season 69 UAAP MVP will get any playing time on a lineup that has Dorian Pena, Enrico Villanueva, Danny Ildefonso and Samige Eman remains a mystery right up there with who really killed JFK. Unless Bono somehow becomes exclusively a power forward and can show that he can play alongside the resident Magnolia bigs, he isn't going anywhere. Bono's ability to hit the long bomb can help his cause, although I don't know how comfortable Coach Siot Tanquincen will be having a 6-foot-5 250 pound center-forward taking treys off a pick and pop. He couldn't get much PT over at Alaska with fellow rookie JR Quinahan, and veterans Sonny Thoss, John Feriols and Reynel Hugnatan. A deeper Magnolia frontline lies ahead for him.

As for Alaska, they've gotten smaller but they've also gotten faster, something that should suit their superstar guard Willie Miller even more. LA Tenorio will orchestrate and handle, Larry Fonacier will distribute and shoot, allowing Miller to slash and get out on transition, his main strengths. The improved passing should also help the Alaska frontline, veritable black holes when they get the ball especially in the post. Hopefully the Alaska coaching staff can get every one to share the ball and move it with more alacrity.

Who came out ahead in this trade? At first glance it looks like Magnolia. But let's see how they do a year from now. My long term gut feel says Alaska came out a slight winner in this swap.

gameface_one
03-20-2008, 10:27 AM
Fonacier, LA to Aces for Bono, Cortez
By Nelson Beltran
Thursday, March 20, 2008
philstar.com

Alaska Milk and Magnolia closed a blockbuster trade deal involving four former major UAAP stars, 10 days before the start of the PBA Fiesta Cup.

The Aces strengthened their backcourt with their acquisition of LA Tenorio and Larry Fonacier while the Beverage Masters beefed up their frontline with Ken Bono coming in a package with Mike Cortez.

The 6-foot-4 Bono, the 2006 UAAP MVP winner, spent most of the time in his first conference with Alaska on the bench, playing behind Sonny Thoss, Reynel Hugnatan and fellow rookie JR Quinahan.

“It’s a win-win deal. We let Ken Bono go as he could get more playing time with Magnolia,” said Alaska team manager Joaqui Trillo.

In return, the Aces got on their side the former Ateneo backcourt tandem of Tenorio and Fonacier.

While Tenorio swapped places with Cortez, Fonacier would provide Alaska deadly outside threats.

Before the entry of Fonacier, Alaska never had a pure outside shooter in its lineup.

Fonacier, now in his third year in the pros, is likely to play the role once assigned to Jojo Lastimosa.

Meanwhile the Air21 Express are short-handed with injuries to top gun Gary David and two other players, 10 days before the opening of the PBA Fiesta Cup.

David, who had just recovered from an ACL operation, Gabby Espinas and Ervin Sotto suffered minor injuries while undergoing strenuous training under famed American conditioning coach Kevin Barbosa.

Barbosa is the same man credited for the transformation of Sta. Lucia to a running defensive team, considered the main reason why the Realtors ended a seven-year title drought in the recent Philippine Cup.

The Realtors were battling the Purefoods Tender Juicy Giants in the finale when the team management thought of inviting Barbosa to come over as token of appreciation on what the American coach has done to the team.

Marlou Aquino, Dennis Espino, Paolo Mendoza, Bitoy Omolon, Denok Miranda, Ryan Reyes and Kelly Williams trained under Barbosa in Boston during the off-season.

Air21 and Coca-Cola were two PBA teams which took the opportunity to hire the services of Barbosa when he was in town.

“We were coming off the break when our players were trained by Barbosa. It was only for three days and probably Barbosa made to fit in it all his drills. Mukhang napwersa ang mga players,” said Air21 coach Bo Perasol.

coreytaylor
03-24-2008, 11:34 AM
good news for larry fonacier. bad news for ken bono.

>larry - maybe given an average of 10-15mins. playing time.
>bono - maybe given an average of 5-10mins. playing time or DNP!

aircanda
03-24-2008, 05:36 PM
ayon sa teledyaryo sports may mangyayari daw big news sa camp ng ginebra bukas and according sa isang reliable source na trade ang mangayyari.

clue: d mo aakalain ittrade ng ginebra ng player na to!...


waaaa...wag nmn sana si mc at jj..



wala pa rin bang news dito mga sir, or talagang rumor lang to? ;D sana rumor nga lang..

cub
03-25-2008, 04:54 PM
there are unconfirmed reports that Willy Wilson was traded to Ginebra, Escalona to Welcoat in exchange for a future draft pick from Magnolia and Mark Macapagal to Coca Cola.

erichubert
03-25-2008, 05:13 PM
That would be a good trade for everyone involved. I hope Macky gets more playing time with Welcoat although he has Denver Lopez and Baguion to compete with, that still better than having JJ, Artadi and Johnny A ahead of you. Wilson would used more in Ginebra, he can fit in that role of Rudy Hatfield, although he is no where near Hatfield's level.

joelex
03-26-2008, 02:56 PM
PBA trades today:

escalona to welcoat
wilson to ginebra
macapagal to coke
tolomia to magnolia
reavis to tnt
yancy to ginebra
RICO VILLANUEVA to PUREFOODS
PINGRIS to MAGNOLIA
Junthy valenzuela to GINEBRA
SALVACION to RED BULL

on the block:
caguioa
ritualo
tenorio
fonacier
bono
cardona
arwind santos
alapag

these players are said to be actively shopped around and might be finalized within 5 games

coreytaylor
03-26-2008, 03:29 PM
^ how reliable are these? where did you get the infos from? i wanna know

Schortsanitis
03-26-2008, 03:42 PM
http://www.ginebraonline.com/archives.php?subaction=showfull&id=1206494945&archive=&start_from=&ucat=2&

LINE-UP UPDATE

Ginebraonline News Team
25 March 2008

There are more things that frighten us than injure us, and we suffer more in imagination than in reality. Talks of trade deals have been hounding the Ginebra community as of late and the diehards have remained optimistic that in March 30, they will be seeing the same faces they have learned to love for quite some time.

Ginebra has basically retained its core line up with one major change: Thousands of ka- Barangays will not be seeing Mark Macapagal wearing the Kings jersey anymore. In a painful move, Ginebra released Macapagal to the Coca Cola Tigers. Macapagal has been notorious with the barangay for his accuracy beyond the three point line and fearless defense. Since Uichico has taken over the driver’s seat in the coaching staff however, his playing time dwindled – along with his confidence that resulted to his inconsistent performance throughout the previous conference. It’s doubtful though whether he will be seeing action immediately since he is as of this moment suffering an injury.

Another Mac incidentally, has also left the fold of the team. Macky Escalona will now be with the Welcoat Dragons- putting to rest all speculations why Chris Pacana was signed up by the team. Escalona’s addition to the Ginebra bench earned Uichico a lot of flak in the first place and since it appears that he has not proven himself worthy of a royal seat, he was instead shipped to the Dragons’ lair.

Both players have been reported to have felt bad when told the news after they had their practice session today.

To the two MACS who’ve been a part of our lives as Ginebra fans: Thank you for the memories.

erichubert
03-26-2008, 03:56 PM
I have heard most of the trades mentioned except the Rico Villanueva-Pingris trade, is that really true? That is a good move for Magnolia because they unload Rico who plays the same way with Pena, plus they still have Bono and Eman who could be groomed to be the future center of the team. Pingris would fit right in as the energy guy off the bench but I don't see why Purefoods would do this trade honestly.

erichubert
03-26-2008, 05:40 PM
The trades have been confirmed:
Coke gets Macapagal
Magnolia gets Pingris and Tolomia
Ginebra gets Wilson plus draft picks
Purefoods gets Rico
Welcoat gets Macky Escalona

There are other draft picks involved but I am not too sure about it. I am not sure if this is all part of one trade or not, but that is where the players would more or less end up. I don't know who won out in this situation, time will tell, but I can't wait to see Rico and Kerby play together, I think they compliment each other perfectly.

Schortsanitis
03-26-2008, 05:46 PM
Uh-oh. Rommel Adducul has been diagnosed w/ NASAL CANCER, confirmed in another PBA forum (which requires registration to enter). He will reportedly miss the next conference as he will be undergoing Chemotherapy.

ANOTHER forum has reportedly confirmed the multi-team trades that has come up, let's wait for it on the papers tomorrow.

erichubert
03-26-2008, 05:48 PM
That must be the reason why the SMC group wanted this trade. Purefoods needed a big man to replace Rommel so they got Rico. But Rommel with cancer? seriously ? :'( That is a bummer.

Schortsanitis
03-26-2008, 09:36 PM
Okay, here it goes, from no less than "Than" of PEx:

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"Sorry i've been sick for 2 days.

Here's the trade deals:

Magnolia trades Enrico Villanueva & Willy Wilson for Chester Tolomia of Coke!

Then Coke traded Wilson to Ginebra for Mark Macapagal!

Coke also traded Enrico Villanueva to Purefoods for Marc Pingris!

Then Coke sent Marc Pingris to Magnolia for a 2nd round pick!

Macky Escalona was released by Ginebra & Welcoat is thinking of picking him up or veteran free agent Allan Salangsang.

Then another deal being cooked up this time between Ginebra & Red Bull that they agreed to announce after their 1st game this Sunday.

Rommel Adducul wont play this conference for personal reasons."

stonecold316
03-27-2008, 02:15 AM
Walang katapusan na namang rigodon sa PBA. Hay.

Unlike before, ang mga players talagang tumatagal sa mga teams na una nilang napupuntahan. Pero dahil na rin sa tindi ng competition, kahit anong galing mo walang kasiguruhan ang future mo sa team mo or liga. Maybe Ginebra ka ngayon, pero pag gising mo kinabukasan nalipat ka na pala either sa Coke, TNT. Magnolia etc.

I'm a big Ginebra fan and seeing Mark Macapagal go is really a sad experience. Isa siya sa magaling na shooters ng team and he will be miss. Hopefully, the entry of Willie Wilson will shore-up the front-line of the Gin Kings.

stonecold316

amdgc82
03-27-2008, 06:58 AM
4-team, 5-player trade (http://www.journal.com.ph/index.php?issue=2008-03-27&sec=7&aid=53916)
March 27, 2008 04:01 PM Thursday*
By: Zean Macamay*
www.journal.com.ph

IN what could be one of the biggest single-day trades in PBA history, Magnolia acquired Marc Pingris and Purefoods got Enrico Villanueva with Coca-Cola acting as the middle-man in a complicated pact that highlighted a four-team, five-player deal yesterday.
* *
The Tigers landed Mark Macapagal from Ginebra, which took in starting off-guard Chester Tolomia and excellent role player Willy Wilson in return.
* *
Purefoods coach Ryan Gregorio confirmed the deal, and said that it was a decision he ‘needed time to think over and over again.’* * * * *In acquiring Villanueva, he said that he has obtained a legitimate center who will take the spot expectedly to be vacated by Rommel Adducul (see related story).
* *
“I have to look at the landscape of the team right now,” said Gregorio. “If you will have to make an emotional decision, I definitely will not trade Ping (Pingris). It hurts because of our relationship.
* *
“But on the intellectual side of the matter, I think we got a legitimate middle-man. We just lost a solid center in Rommel. I felt it was an important decision. We have to move on.”
* *
Purefoods and Magnolia are restricted from trading player directly, but found a way to get the players they needed with the help from Coca-Cola.
* *
The first step taken was by Magnolia, which shipped Villanueva and Wilson to Coca-Cola for Tolomia. Villanueva, now already with Coca-Cola, was immediately sent to Purefoods for Pingris for a second round pick next season.
* *
Wilson, on the other hand, was dealt to Ginebra for Macapagal.
* *
“It was hard releasing Tolomia,” said Coca-Cola coach Binky Favis. “But in acquiring Macapagal, we got not only a good outside shooter but a good defender as well.”
* *
With Pingris coming into the Magnolia fold, the Beverage Masters now have three new players with key roles to play. Only last week, Magnolia traded LA Tenorio and Larry Fonacier to Alaska in exchange for former No. 1 draft pick Mike Cortez and Ken Bono.
* *
Gregorio said that Pingris was ‘dumbfounded’ when told of the development. Pingris, taken by Purefoods from Air21 for a mere pick, was instrumental in the Giants' capturing the 2005-2006 Philippine Cup title, winning the Finals MVP plum.
* *
Another trade rumored to be nearing completion was that between Ginebra and Red Bull. The Gin Kings reportedly will give away dead-shot Sunday Salvacion in exchange for the Bulls’ ace player Junthy Valenzuela.
* *
Coach Yeng Guiao said that Ginebra’s interest on Valenzuela has gone a long way back, but said that he at the moment doesn’t know how deep the negotiations are going.
* *
Red Bull team manager and PBA Chairman Tony Chua, on the other hand, denied that Ginebra has already acquired Valenzuela.* *

amdgc82
03-27-2008, 07:06 AM
Coke ships Villanueva to Purefoods (http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2008/03/27/sports/coke.ships.villanueva.to.purefoods.html)
Thursday, March 27, 2008
www.sunstar.com.ph

MANILA—A big and complicated trade among four teams and involving five players was sealed yesterday before the Philippine Basketball Association could open the import-laden 2008 Fiesta Conference on Saturday in Panabo, Davao del Norte.

The deal, which was considered as final already, used the Coca-Cola Tigers, once part of the San Miguel Corporation (SMC) franchise before it was left alone two years ago, as the transit point for the Magnolia Beverage Masters, Purefoods Tender Juicy Giants and Barangay Ginebra.

A source said that in the deal, Enrico Villanueva and William Wilson were to be traded to Coca-Cola for swingman Chester Tolomia.

But it later turned out, the 6-foot-5 Villanueva, who once played for Red Bull, was traded by Coca-Cola to Purefoods to be swapped for the four-year veteran forward Marc Pingris.

Pingres, also a member of the Purefoods team that won the Philippine Cup in 2006, was traded by Coca-Cola to Magnolia Beverage in exchange for their 2008 draft.

Thus, the trade-offs resulted to Villanueva playing for the Giants, while Pingris donning the Beverage Masters jersey in the Fiesta Cup conference, which will formally open on Sunday at the Araneta Coliseum.

And from the Coca-Cola Tigers, Wilson, a former De La Salle University star, ended with the Barangay Gin Kings in return for three-point artist Mark Macapagal.

After the deal was consummated, Wilson and Tolomia will play with the Gin Kings and Macapagal for the Tigers.

The Gin Kings, the most popular team in the professional league today, likewise released Macky Escalona to Welcoat.

It is very clear that the use of a transit point was made by both Purefoods, Magnolia and Ginebra because of the PBA rules that barred the SMC franchises from trading players directly among the sister teams. (FCC)

amdgc82
03-27-2008, 07:16 AM
Nasal cancer sidelines Adducul
Giants snare Villanueva (http://www.malaya.com.ph/mar27/spor1.htm)
BY NOLI CORTEZ
www.malaya.com.ph

A SERIOUS illness that will sideline center Romel Adducul for the Smart PBA Fiesta Cup has forced Purefoods to make a harsh decision.

Adducul, who turns 32 on April 21, was reportedly recently diagnosed suffering cancer in his nasal or throat area that will require a long treatment, leaving the Giants with no option but to give up star forward Marc Pingris for Magnolia center Enrico Villanueva.

At least two other teams and as many players were also part of the trade that has been confirmed by at least one official of a squad involved in the deal.

As of press time last night, knowledgeable sources told Malaya the trades are "done" and merely need to be submitted to the PBA for approval.

Adducul could not be contacted for comment yesterday, but his long-time agent-manager, Ed Ponceja dismissed the illness as "nothing to worry about."

"Wala ‘yan. Gagaling din si Romel. Babalik siya sa finals if ever pumasok ang team niya," said Ponceja.

A usually reliable source said the illness is actually a cancer in Adducul’s nasal or pharynx area that is "curable."

Adducul’s malady, known as nasopharyngeal cancer, afflicts the area behind the nose and the back of the throat, which is the hollow tube at the upper part of the throat that starts behind the nose and runs down to the neck to become part of the esophagus or the tube that goes to the stomach. It could be treated through surgery, radiation therapy or chemotherapy.

Also not available for comment were Purefoods coach Ryan Gregorio and Magnolia counterpart Siot Tanquingcen, whose teams were involved in the trade along with Coca-Cola and Ginebra.

Purefoods and Magnolia kick off their Fiesta campaign against each other on April 2.

Under the terms of the trade, Villanueva and Willy Wilson were sent by Magnolia to Coke in exchange for Chester Tolomia and a future draft pick. The Tigers then sent Villanueva to Purefoods for Pin-gris and Wilson to Ginebra for shooter Mark Macapagal. The Kings promptly traded Pingris to Magnolia for Tolomia and the draft pick.

It should be a sad parting of ways for Purefoods and Pingris.

The 6-foot-4 leaper and shot blocker fully blossomed under Gregorio since he was acquired from Air21 before the 2005-06 season, where he was adjudged Most Improved Player, Defensive Player of the Year, Finals MVP of the Philippine Cup and a Second Mythical Team member.

Pingris, 26, normed 9.6 points on 57.84 percent field shooting, 9.7 rebounds and 1.0 block per game in 32 contests in this year’s season-opening Philippine Cup.

Adducul was also a vital cog to Purefoods’ surge after averaging 6.0 points, 7.0 rebounds and 0.8 blocks a game.

It was the latest in a series of trades that curiously prominently figured Coke and Magnolia.

The Beverage Masters earlier acquired Mike Cortez and Kenneth Bono from Alaska for Larry Fonacier and LA Tenorio.

The Tigers, who also made a deal with Welcoat after acquiring Nic Belasco for Mark Isip, strengthened their backcourt with the addition of Macapagal plus a future second round pick in the draft.

Ginebra salvaged Wilson, an undersized power forward who has managed to survive in the league with good work ethics and tough defensive skills.

sa_pula
03-27-2008, 10:58 AM
Okay, here it goes, from no less than "Than" of PEx:

******************

"Sorry i've been sick for 2 days.

Here's the trade deals:

Magnolia trades Enrico Villanueva & Willy Wilson for Chester Tolomia of Coke!

Then Coke traded Wilson to Ginebra for Mark Macapagal!

Coke also traded Enrico Villanueva to Purefoods for Marc Pingris!

Then Coke sent Marc Pingris to Magnolia for a 2nd round pick!

Macky Escalona was released by Ginebra & Welcoat is thinking of picking him up or veteran free agent Allan Salangsang.

Then another deal being cooked up this time between Ginebra & Red Bull that they agreed to announce after their 1st game this Sunday.
Rommel Adducul wont play this conference for personal reasons."


heto na yung sunday-diego na pinaguusapan.mangyayari to after ng 1st game nila sa sunday..

james_ty
03-27-2008, 01:07 PM
PBA trades today:

escalona to welcoat
wilson to ginebra
macapagal to coke
tolomia to magnolia
reavis to tnt
yancy to ginebra
RICO VILLANUEVA to PUREFOODS
PINGRIS to MAGNOLIA
Junthy valenzuela to GINEBRA
SALVACION to RED BULL

on the block:
caguioa
ritualo
tenorio
fonacier
bono
cardona
arwind santos
alapag

these players are said to be actively shopped around and might be finalized within 5 games


The Salvacion-for-Valenzuela trade is not true, according to Red Bull's Tony Chua.

sa_pula
03-27-2008, 01:15 PM
PBA trades today:

escalona to welcoat
wilson to ginebra
macapagal to coke
tolomia to magnolia
reavis to tnt
yancy to ginebra
RICO VILLANUEVA to PUREFOODS
PINGRIS to MAGNOLIA
Junthy valenzuela to GINEBRA
SALVACION to RED BULL

on the block:
caguioa
ritualo
tenorio
fonacier
bono
cardona
arwind santos
alapag

these players are said to be actively shopped around and might be finalized within 5 games


The Salvacion-for-Valenzuela trade is not true, according to Red Bull's Tony Chua.


natural lang na i deny ni chua yun pero mukhang 90% palang daw na mangyayari yung trade.Eto ang bago reavis+1st round pickc for yancy and renren according sa reliable source.this week or next daw.

Schortsanitis
03-27-2008, 05:30 PM
As far as trade speculations in the PBA is concerned, I've found only one reliable source thus far.

For the other sources, I think we need to watch their track records first, before we speculate too much about it.

stonecold316
03-27-2008, 06:06 PM
As far as trade speculations in the PBA is concerned, I've found only one reliable source thus far.

For the other sources, I think we need to watch their track records first, before we speculate too much about it.


Tama ka. Itigil na muna ang speculations para hindi makagulo sa discussion.

stonecold316

tigerman
03-27-2008, 10:33 PM
Red Bull should not trade Junthy straight-up for Sunday. The latter is nothing but a one-dimensional player who depends on spotting up from beyond the arc to make a living. Junthy can shoot, slash and defend. Of course Red Bull is known for trades like this one but I'm just giving my 2 cents to it.





USTE LO MEJOR!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS!

cub
03-27-2008, 11:11 PM
wala naman magagawa ang redbull eh. i think they are trading their superstars because they have financial problems.

joelex
03-28-2008, 12:16 AM
Red Bull should not trade Junthy straight-up for Sunday. The latter is nothing but a one-dimensional player who depends on spotting up from beyond the arc to make a living. Junthy can shoot, slash and defend. Of course Red Bull is known for trades like this one but I'm just giving my 2 cents to it.





USTE LO MEJOR!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS!


red bull trades usually have no basketball related basis and on court performance. its on the economics and financila aspect thast why we constantly see one sided trades. same goes for air21.

amdgc82
03-28-2008, 05:51 AM
Red Bull says no to trade (http://www.journal.com.ph/index.php?issue=2008-03-28&sec=7&aid=54057)
March 28, 2008 07:19 PM Friday*
www.journal.com.ph
By: Zean Macamay*
*
Games Tomorrow:
(Panabo, Davao del Norte)
4:30 p.m. - Coca-Cola vs Talk ‘N Text

IT’S a known fact that Brgy Ginebra desires Junthy Valenzuela.
* *
The Gin Kings presented Sunday Salvacion as bait, but Red Bull didn’t bite. If Ginebra, however, is willing to give away Ronald Tubid, then it’s a done deal, no questions asked.
* *
A person with the knowledge of both franchise’s needs revealed that the Bulls are only open to releasing their do-it-all guy to the Gin Kings’ energetic guard.
* *
Ginebra previously offered Salvacion for Valenzuela but apparently was rejected.
* *
“They (Red Bull officials) are not that interested in Salvacion,” said the source who requested anonymity. “Pero kung si Tubid, matutuloy ang deal.”
* *
Valenzuela absorbed the go-to role for the Bulls when the ball club traded Rico Villanueva, Lordy Tugade and Larry Fonacier to Magnolia. Of the three, however, only Tugade has remained with the Beverage Masters, with Villanueva now a Purefoods Giant and Fonacier being shipped to Alaska in deals consummated in a week.
* *
Still, Red Bull managed a respectable finish in the Philippine Cup, missing the chance to make the championships after losing to Purefoods in seven games in the semifinals and settling for a third place finish.
* *
At the same time,* * the Bulls strongly rejected an offer from Purefoods that will send Rich Alvarez to the Giants for the rarely-used Richard Yee.
* *
“They (Purefoods) have been calling Red Bull officials almost everyday trying to convince them to give away Rich (Alvarez). But Red Bull doesn’t like the idea,” said the source.
* *
Alvarez missed the entire Philippine Cup after suffering a career-threatening knee injury (ACL). He underwent surgery and went through painful therapies, and has now been cleared to play for the PBA Fiesta Cup that begins tomorrow.
* *
Even then, the Giants are trying to take the plunge in acquiring a player who has not seen action for nearly eight months. Alvarez suffered his injury during a team practice session in August last year.
* *
Since winning Rookie of the Year honors in the 2004-05 season, Alvarez hasn’t made much of an impact. After his first team, Shell, disbanded, he had a hard time finding his role when he moved to Alaska before he was traded to the Bulls.

amdgc82
03-28-2008, 06:19 AM
PATULOY ANG RIGODON Valenzuela isa-swap kay Salvacion (http://www.abante-tonite.com/issue/mar2808/sports1.htm)
Ramil Cruz
www.abante-tonite.com

Magpapatuloy pa ang rigodon kahit na didribol na bukas ang panapos na torneo sa ika-33 taon ng Philippine Basketball Association – Ang Fiesta Cup – sa Panabo City, Davao del Norte.

Pagkaraan ng four-team blockbuster trade kamakalawa na tinampukan nang pagpadpad ni Jose Enrico Villanueva sa Purefoods Tender Juicy Hotdogs at Jean Marc Pingris, Jr. sa Magnolia Fruit Drinks, sangkot pa rin ang Barangay Ginebra San Miguel sa susunod na player swapping.

Isang reliable source ng Abante TONITE ang nagsiwalat kagabi na done deal na rin ang paglipat ni Junthy Valenzuela sa Ginebra mula Red Bull kung saan ang kapalitan niya ay si Sunday Salvacion.

Idinagdag ng impormante, na sasalang pa nang tig-isa bilang farewell game nila ang dalawang player sa pagsasalpukan ng Ginebra at Red Bull sa Linggo, Marso 30 sa Araneta Coliseum sa Quezon City bago isagawa ang trade.

Walang sagot si Red Bull board representative at team manager Antonio Chua, ang kasalukuyan ding chairman ng PBA board of governors, habang ‘di na nagkomento si head coach Joseller Guiao nang kunin ng pahayagang ito ang reaksyon niya sa pamamagitan ng text message.

Sinubukan ding kunan ng reaksyon sina Ginebra manager Avelino Lim at coach Joseph Uichico subalit kagaya ng dati ay ‘di ito sumagot sa teks.

Nasangkot din ang Gin Kings sa paggalaw nina Villanueva at Pingris pati ang Coca-Cola kung saan nakulyar nito sa Coke si Willie Wilson sa pag-release kay Mark Macapagal.

Unang naganap na palitan sa taong ito ang paglipat nina Beverage Masters Lewis Alfred Tenorio at Larry Fonacier noong Miyerkules Santo patungong Alaska Milk na pinakawalan sina Mike Cortez at Ken Bono.

Kung matuloy ang 6-3 guard-forward na si Valenzuela sa Kings, mahihinto na ang pangangantyaw sa kanya sa pagsigaw ng Diego (Llorica na komedyante sa isang ng TV sitcom) ng Kings fanatics dahil sa pagtungo niya sa crowd-drawer ballclub.

Magiging pangalawang koponan pa lang ng 6-foot-3 shooter sa walong taong pro career ang Ginebra matapos magsuot ng Red Bull jersey sa pag-akyat ng team sa liga sapul noong 2000.

Gayundin sa 6-3 guard-forward na si Salvacion buhat nang mag-pro noong 2003.

Samantala, ‘di muna masasaksihan sa nalalapit na torneo ng liga si Romel; Adducul ng P’foods matapos masuring may kanser sa mukha. Sumasailalim na siya sa gamutan.

Joescoundrel
03-28-2008, 01:32 PM
wala naman magagawa ang redbull eh. i think they are trading their superstars because they have financial problems.


Same buzz I got from many independent sources. And here I thought the Fotokina franchise was a wealthy one.

james_ty
03-28-2008, 01:43 PM
wala naman magagawa ang redbull eh. i think they are trading their superstars because they have financial problems.


If I remember right, the owners of Red Bull used to have Agfa Films and Dreyer's Ice Cream. Both those products don't exist anymore.

The_Big_Cat
03-28-2008, 02:58 PM
Perhaps Red Bull is preparing to leave the PBA? Or disbanding? I hope not. Giving away blue chip players in Tugade, Villanueva, Fonacier and now Valenzuela is a sign they are struggling financially.

Mikhail
03-28-2008, 03:10 PM
Even without these marquee players, they still performed better than those superstar-filled teams (TNT, SMB & Ginebra). :D

The_Big_Cat
03-28-2008, 03:18 PM
You could attribute their excellent performance to the coach, Yeng Guiao.

marmand
03-28-2008, 05:47 PM
With all the trades happening, I am wondering if the PBA follows a salary cap restriction when trading players like the NBA? There are some lopsided trades that dont make sense. ???

joelex
03-29-2008, 02:11 AM
the photokina franchise is very close to the heart of former president erap estrada and his ouster in 2001 slowed the progress of this franchise.

stonecold316
03-29-2008, 08:49 PM
Nakakalungkot naman ang balita na ito. If it's true na financially strapped ang Red Bull baka mabawasan na naman ng team ang PBA. Signs of the times talaga. Kahit teams sa PBA affected ng mahinang economy.

stonecold316

coreytaylor
03-31-2008, 11:42 AM
both ginebra and red bull did not field in sunday salvacion and junthy during last night's game. from what i have read from the pba website, both teams are at the closing stage of the deal involving the 2 players. sayang talaga si junthy. oh well, goodluck na lang sa kanya to his new team. to sunday naman, im sure he will maximize his skill and talent in red bull. coming up next, cyrus baguio to... ::)

james_ty
03-31-2008, 11:50 AM
both ginebra and redbull did not field in sunday salvacion and junthy during last night's game. i wonder why?* :-\


Mukhang their trade is about to push through.

The_Big_Cat
03-31-2008, 01:11 PM
Valenzuela and Salvacion will eventually be traded for each other. Big brake for Salvacion. His excellent sniping from the perimeter will surely fit the run and gun play of Red Bull.

As far as for Valenzuela, he may battle for his playing minutes considering he plays the same position as Caguioa and Tubid. However, Valenzuela could start at the 3 spot (small forward) and play alongside Caguioa and Helterbrand. Last night Tubid started at the 3 spot for Ginebra. It will be a great addition for Ginebra.

james_ty
03-31-2008, 03:09 PM
Nakakalungkot naman ang balita na ito. If it's true na financially strapped ang Red Bull baka mabawasan na naman ng team ang PBA. Signs of the times talaga. Kahit teams sa PBA affected ng mahinang economy.

stonecold316


If Red Bull or any team that is suffering financially will leave the PBA, puwede namang pumasok ang Harbour Centre and Hapee Toothpaste, two teams that are making a profit and are dying to enter the pro league.

erichubert
03-31-2008, 03:14 PM
It is really no secret that Red Bull is in its last legs in the PBA, they have been financially strapped since 2-3 years ago. In fact, they were shopping their franchise to prospective buyers as early as last year, but so far there are no takers. Sayang, if you would look at it closely, I think they are one of the franchise that really gains a lot of mileage by joining the PBA, sumikat talaga sila, and I think it helped their product too.

Schortsanitis
03-31-2008, 03:17 PM
I thought Hapee & Harbour Center were interested in joining the PBA?

Or maybe those 2 teams wanted to join the PBA, but at their own terms, using their own players, & that aside from Hapee & Harbour, no other company is interested in getting a PBA team?

erichubert
03-31-2008, 03:21 PM
Exactly, I think that's what Harbour Center is doing right now, they are studying carefully whether to buy an existing franchise or to enter as an expansion team. They don't want to be like Welcoat, who has been struggling ever since they entered the PBA, and from the looks of it they won't be improving anytime soon. Parang Minardi dati ng Formula One ang Welcoat, saling pusa lang right now sa liga.

The_Big_Cat
03-31-2008, 04:12 PM
Its no secret that Harbour Centre is contemplating to join the PBA. If Red Bull does leave, look for Harbour to buy Red Bull's franchise and eventually absorb its players.

In 1988, when Tanduay left, Purefoods bought their franchise and absorbed their players (Mon Fernandez, Willie Generalao, Padim Israel, Jayvee Yango).

gameface_one
04-01-2008, 09:08 AM
Valenzuela-for-Salvacion trade looms, sources say
mb.com.ph





Forward Junthy Valenzuela, one of the last two remaining players in the original Red Bull lineup when the team joined the PBA in 2000, is expected to be traded to Ginebra in exchange for Sunday Salvacion, sources said yesterday.


"It will push through. The only question is when," said one of the sources, who requested anonymity.

The other source also confirmed the impending trade.

The Bulletin tried to contact Red Bull’s PBA governor Tony Chua, also the current PBA president, to confirm the source’s new information, but calls and text messages were not returned.

Last week Chua said Valenzuela will not be traded. But despite his denial, some indications point to a looming trade.

For instance: Valenzuela was benched by Red Bull Coach Yeng Guiao during the team’s game against Barangay Ginebra in the Smart-PBA Fiesta Cup last Sunday.

"I chose not to play him. Maski ako naguguluhan pa, I don’t want to put him in a situation na maaalangan s’ya," Guiao said. "We have to settle first whether he’s staying or whether he’s going."

"We definitely don’t want him to go. But there are factors that need to be considered," Guiao added without elaborating.

During the same game, Salvacion was not fielded by Ginebra though he was in uniform and apparently not injured as he participated in the warm up.

Only the 28-year-old Valenzuela and Mke Pennisi remain in the original Red Bull lineup which won two PBA titles for the team, the Commissioner’s Cup in 2001 and 2002.

In the previous Philippine Cup, the eight-year veteran Valenzuela averaged 15.7 points, five rebounds and 3.4 assists per game.

Salvacion, on the other hand, averaged 9.6 ppg, 6.1 rebounds and 1.1 assists in the last conference. —Waylon Galvez

gameface_one
04-14-2008, 09:45 PM
Web: Red Bull's Valenzuela now with Ginebra
abs-cbnnews.com


Longtime Red Bull ace Junthy Valenzuela is now with Barangay Ginebra following a deal that involves letting go of its second round pick for 2009 and the first round pick for the 2010 rookie draft, an online news report said Monday.

Sportsnews.ph said the trade was made official Monday except that it did not involve the one-on-one trade with Ginebra's Sunday Salvacion.

Valenzuela, who is two months shy of turning 29, was one of six direct-hire players of the Photokina franchise when it entered the Philippine Basketball Association in 2000 as its 10th member.

The Photokina franchise was then known as the Batang Red Bull Energy Kings. The PBA gave it a concession to elevate six players from its amateur squad to the professional league. They were Kerby Raymundo, Davonn Harp, Lordy Tugade, Jimwell Torion, Bernard Tanpua and Valenzuela.

Valenzuela was part of Red Bull’s two Commissioner Cup (2001 & 2002) and Fiesta Conference (2006) championship runs. He played two of Red Bull’s three games in the current Fiesta Conference and averaged 6 points, down from 15.7 during the previous Philippine Cup. He also averaged 1.5 rebounds, 1.5 assists and 1 steal in about 13 minutes of action per game.

stonecold316
04-16-2008, 01:13 PM
GINEBRA RESUMES BUILDUP WITH ACQUISITION OF VALENZUELA
Kings give up two draft picks for Red Bull enforcer
Tuesday, 15 April 2008
The long-rumored transfer of Junthy Valenzuela to Barangay Ginebra has finally materialized.

Ginebra and Red Bull reached an agreement Monday night with the Kings acquiring the services of the hard-nosed Cebuano player in exchange for two draft picks.

Sunday Salvacion, the player initially offered by Ginebra as trade bait, stayed with his mother team as Red Bull opted for the Kings’ 2009 second-round and 2010 first-round picks for Valenzuela.

Ginebra had been after the services of Valenzuela since the off-season. Finally striking a trade deal with Red Bull, the Kings relegated Rodney Santos to the reserve list to accommodate Valenzuela in their roster of active players.

At Red Bull, Mark Andaya was re-activated from the reserve list on the departure of Valenzuela.

“We will miss Junthy. He’s among our original players and a key ingredient in our success. But just like the other trades, we’ll find ways to make up for his absence,” said Red Bull coach Yeng Guiao. “We’ll still be contending. We expect not just somebody but several of our players to step up.”

Valenzuela, a heady player out of Salazar Institute of Technology in Cebu, became the latest of Red Bull talents acquired by another team on a trade deal the Photokina Marketing franchise just couldn’t refuse.

The Barakos have given up in earlier trade deals Kerby Raymundo, Willie Miller, Lordy Tugade, Enrico Villanueva and Larry Fonacier.

Aware of Valenzuela’s imminent departure, Guiao opted not to use the player in their first game in the 2008 Smart PBA Fiesta Conference against Ginebra. Valenzuela was then used sparingly in their next two games.

On the departure of Villanueva, Tugade and Fonacier last season, Valenzuela had emerged as Red Bull’s leader in the recent Philippine Cup where they finished third behind Sta. Lucia and Purefoods.

Thus, Ginebra only became a lot more interested on him, making him the team’s latest acquisition after the sudden re-entry of Fil-Am behemoth Alex Crisano Saturday.

Rookie JR Aquino was placed on the reserve list on the return of Crisano, who was granted clearance by no less than the Office of the President. (NC)

amdgc82
05-01-2008, 04:49 AM
Washington to Ginebra, Santos to Talk ‘N Text? (http://www.journal.com.ph/index.php?issue=2008-05-01&sec=7&aid=58083)
By: Zean Macamay
May 01, 2008 05:03 PM Thursday
www.journal.com.ph

JAY Washington to Ginebra. Arwind Santos to Talk ‘N Text. Sunday Salvacion to Air21. Another blockbuster trade in the making?
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Not so fast.
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The chief of San Miguel Corp.’s basketball operations yesterday branded as ‘loose talks’ the rumors that would make the two giant PBA franchises much stronger.
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Robert Non denied any knowledge that the Gin Kings, the only winless team in the tournament at 0-5 (win-loss), had already acquired the services of Washington in a three-team, three-player trade.
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“I am not aware of that,” said Non. “Those are only loose talks.”
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The deal, according to a reliable person who requested not to be identified, said that the three teams had already agreed to push through with the transaction.
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That would send Washington to the Gin Kings, while the Express will give away their best player in Santos for Salvacion. Santos will land with the Phone Pals.
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“I would love to have Washington ,” said Ginebra coach Jong Uichico. “But until now, I am not aware of that deal. Sana magkatotoo.”
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Informed of the rumor, Air21 coach Bo Perasol said that it’s a pact that’s very one-sided.
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“I am not belittling Sunday (Salvacion),” said Perasol. “Pero there are things na hindi kayang gawin ni Sunday na nagagawa ni Arwind.
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“Even if this is management’s decision, the deal is not fair. Besides, I and Mr. Lito Alvarez (Air21 manager) had already talked about that and the last person we would trade is Arwind. He is simply the pillar of this team.”
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While only a sophomore, Santos has already proven that he could be a player worth investing in. He topped the statistical points in the last Philippine Cup but lost the Best Player of the Conference Award to Kelly Wililams.
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The former Far Eastern U standout also appeared in his first All-Star only last week as part of the North Team and a participant in the Slam Dunk contest where he advanced into the Finals against Williams and Ronald Tubid.
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The rumors apparently got set off since the Gin Kings are now only a win away from going down to their worst start in eight years.
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The last time Ginebra went winless after its first five games was in the 2000 Commissioner’s Cup.
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The Gin Kings will also parade a new import in Chris Alexander when it clashes with sister-team Purefoods tomorrow. Alexander will be Ginebra’s third import this conference after Rohshon Turner and seven-footer Ernest Brown.

The_Big_Cat
05-01-2008, 10:06 AM
Talk 'N Text would get even smaller if they trade away Washington.
Is Air21 trading away Arwind Santos to make room for JC Intal since both play the 3 spot? ???
Mas complete player si Santos compared to Intal.
And as far as Washington going to Ginebra, it is really one-sided. Lugi yung other 2 teams dito sa trade. :(

marmand
05-01-2008, 10:21 AM
^ So what is new in the PBA. They should have a slogan stating " Where one-sided deals happen."

Schortsanitis
06-07-2008, 08:16 AM
http://sports.inquirer.net/inquirersports/inquirersports/view/20080606-141224/Miller-dooms-Express-with-clutch-basket

Miller Dooms Express With Clutch Basket

By Musong R. Castillo
Philippine Daily Inquirer

Posted date: June 06, 2008

GAME SATURDAY
(Mindanao Civic Center, Tubod, Davao del Norte)

4:30 p.m.--Purefoods vs Welcoat

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Meanwhile, Reed Juntilla brings his sweet-shooting skills to the PBA after Red Bull signed up the 6-foot-2 Hapee guard Friday.

"He's definitely going to help us," said Red Bull coach Yeng Guiao. "Reed is a big addition to our backcourt, especially now that Junthy (Valenzuela) had moved to Ginebra."

Juntilla's acquisition is expected to bolster the Barako's bid for an outright semifinal berth in the Smart-PBA Fiesta Conference.

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sa_pula
08-23-2008, 08:22 PM
May Tsika sa kampo ng purefoods na may nililigawan daw silang players..sabi sa tsismis former air21 player daw ito at former ateneo standout....hindi kaya si wesley gonzales ito at rich alvarez?..

cub
08-23-2008, 11:13 PM
it's Rich Alvarez. midway through the import laden conference, Purefoods inquired for Alvarez but RedBull rejected the trade mainly because they will have Richard Yee in return. PF wants to get Alvarez because they can see that Alvarez can be the next Marc Pingris.