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supremo
08-31-2007, 08:13 PM
Araneta was a mess. looks like the dark ages of NCAA has been revived by SBC-Letran rivalry.
After the game napikon yung isang player ng Letran sinugod ung mga fans and all hell break loose.
Nagsuguran mga fans. grabe riot kanina. batuhan ng mga plastic bottles and coins. kawawa ung isang matandang bedan alumni sinuntok ng isang Letran player. Player #12 ung sumugod.

Ang mahirap nyan eh kung bigatin palang bedista yung nasapak kanina, malamang may mga hitman yan. Ang problema pa, hindi madaling i-trace kung sino ang mastermind in-case bweltahan yung player ng letran, Wawa naman. Bata ka pa boy, nagmamatigas ka na. Sayang ang career mo kung nagkataon. ;D

nash_bedista
08-31-2007, 08:17 PM
ahahah. alam ko si Quinday yung Sumugod! hahaha kitang kita, Si Kapitan talaga! hahaha

flsfnoeraekadad
08-31-2007, 08:18 PM
Posible bang ma-nullify ang 83rd season basketball?

luranski
08-31-2007, 08:29 PM
ayaw patalo... :)

nash_bedista
08-31-2007, 08:32 PM
ahahah Sore Loser!Letran! grrr. Nung natalo kami, ok lang. Pero nung Natalo cila tsk3x

Howard the Duck
08-31-2007, 08:40 PM
mga lampa ang security ;D

eggyboi
08-31-2007, 08:47 PM
oi oi oi!!! may nakakuha ba nun sa celphone??? ung buong incident???
palagay naman sa youtube oh.. :) para makita ng buong mundo sino ang nagsimula.... ;D

flsfnoeraekadad
08-31-2007, 08:51 PM
mga lampa ang security ;D
Hindi kayang abutin kaagad ng security ang Upper B, pareng Howard. By the time na makaabot yun dun sa mga gusto nilang mahuli eh siguro nakapagbato na yung isang heckler ng dalawa o tatlong coins/bote.

Hindi lang din kasi sa patron ang gulo. Pero may punto ka, asan ang security ng AC (yung mga pinapadala sa court) nung nagkakagulo na???

Howard the Duck
08-31-2007, 08:52 PM
mga lampa ang security ;D
Hindi kayang abutin kaagad ng security ang Upper B, pareng Howard. By the time na makaabpt yun dun siguro nakapagbato na yung isang heckler ng dalawa o tatlong coins/bote.
ganoon ba? kasi di ba kung nasa baba madali namang masesecure

at the end of the coverage parang may away na since there were people at the court

razor
08-31-2007, 09:03 PM
mga lampa ang security ;D
Hindi kayang abutin kaagad ng security ang Upper B, pareng Howard. By the time na makaabot yun dun sa mga gusto nilang mahuli eh siguro nakapagbato na yung isang heckler ng dalawa o tatlong coins/bote.

Hindi lang din kasi sa patron ang gulo. Pero may punto ka, asan ang security ng AC (yung mga pinapadala sa court) nung nagkakagulo na???


The incident started at the Patron Section behind the goal/end court. Mabagal nga yun mga Events Security.

Howard the Duck
08-31-2007, 09:08 PM
mga lampa ang security ;D
Hindi kayang abutin kaagad ng security ang Upper B, pareng Howard. By the time na makaabot yun dun sa mga gusto nilang mahuli eh siguro nakapagbato na yung isang heckler ng dalawa o tatlong coins/bote.

Hindi lang din kasi sa patron ang gulo. Pero may punto ka, asan ang security ng AC (yung mga pinapadala sa court) nung nagkakagulo na???


The incident started at the Patron Section behind the goal/end court. Mabagal nga yun mga Events Security.

The last time I was at Araneta, mabibilis naman ang mga sekyu (kulay pula ang suot nila, ewan ko lang ngayon) kasi last 2 minutes nag aantay na sila...

jayverns
08-31-2007, 09:12 PM
nakaka-disappoint yung game, ang ganda nung una tapos nauwi sa rambulan. This game reminds me of the Detroit-Indiana brawl, napapailing na lang ako kanina at parang hindi ko tuloy naramdaman na nanalo San Beda.

razor
08-31-2007, 09:14 PM
The last time I was at Araneta, mabibilis naman ang mga sekyu (kulay pula ang suot nila, ewan ko lang ngayon) kasi last 2 minutes nag aantay na sila...


They were caught by surprise. Tapos na yun laro and the Teams were already supposed to sing their hymns then boom rumble na ...

Howard the Duck
08-31-2007, 09:26 PM
The last time I was at Araneta, mabibilis naman ang mga sekyu (kulay pula ang suot nila, ewan ko lang ngayon) kasi last 2 minutes nag aantay na sila...


They were caught by surprise. Tapos na yun laro and the Teams were already supposed to sing their hymns then boom rumble na ...
Bakit ba kasi sumugod si letran player? paanong jeering? squatter? eh tuwing tapos na ang laban squatter na daw ang kanta ;D

bugleboy
08-31-2007, 09:34 PM
i was there at the game earlier -- patron section, letran side. i didn't see any letran player hitting anybody else, although at least one of them did go to the sbc patron section.

mga alumni ng letran at san beda ang nagsapakan kanina sa patron at umulan ng kung ano-anong basura mula sa upper box ng san beda side. then some students decided to join in the fray at the upper b section.

tsk tsk. dapat tigilan na ang mga kalokohang ganito. it ruined what was a well-fought game.

letranense1620
08-31-2007, 09:36 PM
I was there knina.

First of all, nice game to both teams. As expected, exciting at dikit ang laban. Congratulations sa Red Lions lalo na kay Hermida???. Galing ng performance nya.

May joint cheering noong halftime. Pagkatapos noon, nagpalakpakan both sides.

Pagkatapos ng regulation, nagkamayan na ang bench ng RL at LK. Talo kame. Pero ayus naman kasi naging dikit kahit nung huli at deserve ng RL na manalo. Then it happened. IMHO hindi lang both sides (LC & SBC) ang mali, isama mo na MANCOM, Araneta security and both cheering squads. Isa ako sa mga umawat sa Upper B section. Kapwa maiinit ang magkabilang grupo. No offense at no malice intended pero may isang Letranette ang nasuntok sa mukha o dibdib. Though no sense yun kasi nga parehong ang may mali. Ang kinaiinisan ko lang kanina ay parang mga binabae ang security ng Araneta. Nakat@nga lang yung isang guard habang nag-uumbagan na mga Letranites at Bedans. Kung hindi ko pa sinabi na "galaw galaw naman diyan awatin niyo po please" eh walang mangyayari.

Again IMHO parehong may mali. May nang-asar, may napikon, may nambato, may gumanti at may pasaway paawat.

Nevertheless, i think hindi naman nito masisira magandang tinginan sa pagitan ng magkabilang panig. Sana... People, maging mahinahon tayo sa post dito lalo na sa issue na yan. Chill lang tayong lahat. In behalf of Letran, our sincerest apologies.

Arriba Letran!!!
Animo San Beda!!!

abcdef
08-31-2007, 09:45 PM
The incident could have been prevented by the SECURITIES!

Now, paano na ang mga games ng San Beda-Letran? May "indelible"(?) mark na yan especially among the supporters.

jayverns
08-31-2007, 09:48 PM
i was there at the game earlier -- patron section, letran side.* i didn't see any letran player hitting anybody else, although at least one of them did go to the sbc patron section.*

mga alumni ng letran at san beda ang nagsapakan kanina sa patron at umulan ng kung ano-anong basura mula sa upper box ng san beda side.* then some students decided to join in the fray at the upper b section.

tsk tsk. dapat tigilan na ang mga kalokohang ganito.* it ruined what was a well-fought game.



di ba nanapak yung player ng Letran yung Reposar? parang nakita ko siya dun pati si Mico Quinday

puroy21
08-31-2007, 09:52 PM
Maganda yung laro pati na rin yung mga cheering na astig dahil both schoos nagtulungan, nasira lang sa huli...

I think both sides talaga may kasalanan... Nag-init both sides kaya dapat "security" na ang nag-ayos...


@letranese: Nice game and sorry din in behalf sa ibang bedans na nag-init...

bugleboy
08-31-2007, 09:54 PM
as i said, i didn't see any letran player hitting anybody. *what i saw were letran and san beda alumni punching each other out like kids in a playground. *nakakahiya at nakakainis.

i hope all of us are all mature enough to know what is right and wrong here. *we should not condone the wrong actions of people just because we happen to be wearing the same school colors. *

batangueño
08-31-2007, 10:02 PM
So nagmukha lang palang mga tanga yung Araneta Coliseum security (the guys wearing a yellow t-shirt with "Event Security" mark)? Anong ginawa nung mga attendants na nakabantay doon sa mga pintuan papuntang Upper Box A and B and Lower Box sections?

abcdboy
08-31-2007, 10:29 PM
Andun ako kanina. ;D

Pano mo maawat yung 7000 fans ng San Beda at 4000 fans ng Letran? Yung security mga 200 lang ata sila. Rumble Rumble EVERYWHERE! Umuulan ng bote at barya from both sides. Hay nako kung SBC-CSJL Finals baka madugo.

abcdboy
08-31-2007, 10:30 PM
Tska nung paalis na ng court ang mga players ng Letran ay parang may missiles na galing sa kanila at papuntang crowd. HALA! Binalik pala yung bote papanik! :o

Game pa lang ng Juniors mainit na ang crowd. :)

batangueño
08-31-2007, 10:36 PM
Andun ako kanina. ;D

Pano mo maawat yung 7000 fans ng San Beda at 4000 fans ng Letran? Yung security mga 200 lang ata sila. Rumble Rumble EVERYWHERE! Umuulan ng bote at barya from both sides. Hay nako kung SBC-CSJL Finals baka madugo.


There should always be a contigency plan on the part of the management of the Araneta Coliseum and the NCAA on how to address a situation like a riot. Lumalabas tuloy na napaka-inefficient ng NCAA at ng Araneta Coliseum management at hindi napigilan ang gulo na yan.

Isa pa, hindi pa ba ganun ka-mature ang mga nanonood doon na laro lang yan ng basketball at wala dapat personalan? Aba, nasa 21st century na tayo at hindi na ito 1970's na halos magpatayan ang fans. ::)

batangueño
08-31-2007, 10:42 PM
Photos of the San Beda-Letran game and post game brawl now available at RPSports.com (http://www.ubelt.com/photos/search.aspx?gid=638).

Howard the Duck
08-31-2007, 10:44 PM
masyadong school spirit na yan mga peeps ;D

nash_bedista
08-31-2007, 10:44 PM
so moral Lesson yan. Ilang Weeks nalng Final4 at Finals na. Dapat Sundalo na kunin nila para steady ang crowd

tigerman
08-31-2007, 10:48 PM
A sad, sad day for college basketball.

Just when I thought the league can finally move on after the Aljamal issue...

As college basketball fans, let's try to avoid jeering and concentrate instead on pure cheering. In this way we can help minimize the chances of this barbaric act.

peace.



USTE LO MEJOR!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS!

batangueño
08-31-2007, 10:48 PM
so moral Lesson yan. Ilang Weeks nalng Final4 at Finals na. Dapat Sundalo na kunin nila para steady ang crowd


Naku! 'Wag naman sana umabot sa punta na kailangan maglagay ng snipers sa loob ng Araneta para lang magpakatino ang lahat na manonood ng San Beda-Letran Final Four/Finals. ;D

Howard the Duck
08-31-2007, 10:51 PM
OT: Ang cute ng lion headgear ng mga SBC fans ;D

jiggerman04
08-31-2007, 10:54 PM
nood kayo ng bandila.. headline yung gulo sa araneta kanina..

Howard the Duck
08-31-2007, 11:00 PM
I wonder, since madami daw na lolo LC fans, baka ito na yung mga veterans (parang militar ah) noong araw

jayverns
08-31-2007, 11:03 PM
A sad, sad day for college basketball.

Just when I thought the league can finally move on after the Aljamal issue...

As college basketball fans, let's try to avoid jeering and concentrate instead on pure cheering. In this way we can help minimize the chances of this barbaric act.

peace.



USTE LO MEJOR!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS!



kahit nga ako nagulat at hindi ako makapaniwala sa nangyari kanina, nakakadisappoint talaga. hmmmm...parang naiimagine ko na ang NCAA nung araw.

Howard the Duck
08-31-2007, 11:05 PM
LC peeps chanting squatter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyBahM6yzNU

monstermash
08-31-2007, 11:38 PM
medyo malapit ako doon, tapos nang game nakita ko mainit na si coach alas sa isang alumni ng sbc sa patron 109, may pumigil lang sa kanya, wala pang 10 seconds may sumugod doon sa alumni ng sbc parang isa sa mga assistant ni coach alas pero di ako sure, there were punches thrown, di ko nakita kung sino ung sumuntok pero nakita ko yung braso sumusuntok.

sumunod noon pupunta na ung ibang players ng csjl siguro to deffend ung assistant coach, nung nakita ng mga bedans sa lowerbox na papunta na ung mga players kung anoano na ang ibinabato. tumigil nung marami na ung security.

hindi pa natapos doon dahil yung mga student sa upperbox at sa lowerbox ng batuhan din may habulan pa nga.

sayang ganun yung ending maganda kasi yung game.

onthebluecorner
08-31-2007, 11:42 PM
I was there in the game.

Minura po ng alumni ng San Beda si coach Louie Alas at Asst. Coach Mel Alas, tapos sumugod 'yung alumni ng Letran sa alumni ng San Beda. Both sides may fault. Yung pagmumura nakapagprovoke. Tapos the crowd went wild because of the incident.

Nanalo na nga ang San Beda, bakit nagmura pa ang alumni nila?

At bakit nag-throw ng bottles ang mga Bedan? Kitang-kita na sa kanila nanggaling 'yung bottles. Kaya sumigaw ng squatter ang Letran because of that incident (throwing bottles).
Nakakabigla talaga.

I'm just giving you guys another side of the story. I was there when it happened.

Just an observance.

Somos Primeros Letran!
Arriba Letran!

atenean_blooded
08-31-2007, 11:48 PM
Ok na sana. May joint halftime pa.

Howard the Duck
08-31-2007, 11:56 PM
Ok na sana. May joint halftime pa.

Parang di feel ni Father Lana yung game ;D

abcdboy
09-01-2007, 12:04 AM
Sabi sa bandila hindi daw natuloy yung suntukan dahil sa security. Suntukan at batuhan nga lalo na sa Upper Box b at patron.

Bulag ba sila? ;D

Dark Knight
09-01-2007, 12:08 AM
The next question is...will there be suspensions? Will Quinday and Reposar be suspended?

Na alala ko tuloy si Ron Artest. ;D

But personally, mas masarap ang games pag me ganito, basta walang patayan. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

bugleboy
09-01-2007, 12:11 AM
^bakit naman po sa palagay ninyo dapat suspindihin si reposar at si quinday? mukhang iba naman yata ang nangyari rito doon sa nangyari kay ron artest.

Dark Knight
09-01-2007, 12:16 AM
I dunno. Was it Ron Artest or Jermaine O'Neal?

Let me rephrase my question. What will Comm Narvasa's next step?

atenean_blooded
09-01-2007, 12:24 AM
The next question is...will there be suspensions? Will Quinday and Reposar be suspended?

Na alala ko tuloy si Ron Artest.* ;D

But personally, mas masarap ang games pag me ganito, basta walang patayan.* ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Dati yata, may boxing na inter-school, pero hindi yata NCAA. ;D

red_track
09-01-2007, 12:25 AM
tsktsk. parehong may mali.

abcdboy
09-01-2007, 12:26 AM
Pero exciting pala pag may rambulan. Ngayon lang kasi ako nakanood ng may ganun puro kwento lang naririnig ko.

Dark Knight
09-01-2007, 12:29 AM
Pero exciting pala pag may rambulan. Ngayon lang kasi ako nakanood ng may ganun puro kwento lang naririnig ko.


Watch the Letran - San Beda Finals. ;D

Howard the Duck
09-01-2007, 12:38 AM
Pero exciting pala pag may rambulan. Ngayon lang kasi ako nakanood ng may ganun puro kwento lang naririnig ko.


Watch the Letran - San Beda Finals. ;D

asa.

SBC - JRU na yan... malamang suspended si mel alas for the rest of the season, louie alas for a game (min) and the letran players that went to the stands for a minimum of 3 games.

At kung JRU ang finals, batuhan na ng hopia, check out the events on 1999 :p

danny
09-01-2007, 12:57 AM
Another of those darn NCAA post game soiree.

There will be no suspension unless the 3 players of JRU will be suspended first. What a mess.

Teka , ilang tao nga ba involved?

Ito na pala ang rambol ngayon.
http://www.ubelt.com/photos/search.aspx?gid=638

:D

magnum_motoki
09-01-2007, 06:15 AM
Namput...

The game was excellent....the post game brawl was horrible...

Evidently Mel Alas charged to the patron section and throw a couple of punches against an elder bedan supporter. What is sickening is that his brother, coach Louie and the rest of the letran squad also charged to the stands triggering a reaction from the bedan fans seated at the upperbox sections. I don't know if somebody caught a video of this but it is clear from where we stood at the lowerbox section that it was Mel Alas who were throwing punches against a Senior Citizen...

Lessons...

Granting that a couple of elderly fans were jeering, being one of the leaders of your squad you should not take offense afterall all of us do get jeered. You're looking like a sore-loser. When San Beda lost in our first encounter, we never tried to pick-up a fight against letran, we even clapped and congratulated your team.

To my younger bedan brothers...please restrain yourselves. Pacify those hotheads amongst you. Let them fight among themselves and just concentrate on the game.

FOR SAN BEDA, OUR COUNTRY, AND GOD!!!!

julianne_10
09-01-2007, 06:57 AM
Ano ba talaga nangyari? We were beside the two people in the patron section who instigated this "brawl"... at first nakakatawa lang siya kasi 2nd quarter palang sumasagot na talaga ang coaching staff ng letran sa 2 taong nagsisisigaw ng "p*i* ka coach", then sabay "good job coach(sarcastically)"... sabi ni coach louie while pointing to his watch, "antayin mo lang pagtapos ng game, basta pagtapos ng game!", well lalong nangasar tong 2 guys na to from beda turning against guevara whom they called "John Pratts" saying "bobo ka john pratts", then naghamon nanaman ang coaching staff ng letran, sabi "pasok ka dito!", calling those two men inside the court, sagot naman, "bakit player ba kami at papasok kami dyan?", then sabay sabi "p*i* ka coach alas!"... I even heard one of them say na gusto talaga niya magcall ng fight para ma-technical ang letran, this jeering and taunting went on until the last quarter... until finally natalo na ang letran... sugod agad ang coaching staff after the blowing of the whistle followed by the players....

*Corrections: Hindi elderly bedans ang nasapak, those two guys were in their late 20's or early 30's

abcdboy
09-01-2007, 07:11 AM
hindi nila nakuhaan ng picture yung sa Upper Box. ;D

lestat2377
09-01-2007, 07:40 AM
Such a shame that a thrilling and exciting game would have a nasty sidenote to it. i'm a red blooded bedan and i wont hesitate to say that those two "bedan alumni" supporters who allegedly cussed and provoked the letran coaching staff and subsequently triggering a brawl could call themselves BEDANS. Shame on you! In events such as these, whether player or spectator, always bear in mind that you carry the name of your alma mater.

What's worse, these two people who were "so brave" when jeering, tucked their tails between their legs and tried to run away when the other side was already retaliating. Mang aasar duwag naman pala! PWEEEE! You ought to be ashamed calling yourselves BEDANS! if indeed you guys are really bedans. Baka naman kicked out kayo or expelled from San Beda pero nagpapanggap na bedista pa rin! Someone ought to teach these guys a lesson. I mean jeering and cheering are but normal in games but to be upfront and in-your-face disrepectful and "bastos" is another thing. They didn't teach us to be that way in San Beda.

ANIMO SAN BEDA!!!! GO SAN BEDA FIGHT!!!

toti_mendiola
09-01-2007, 08:09 AM
as i said, i didn't see any letran player hitting anybody. *what i saw were letran and san beda alumni punching each other out like kids in a playground. *nakakahiya at nakakainis.

i hope all of us are all mature enough to know what is right and wrong here. *we should not condone the wrong actions of people just because we happen to be wearing the same school colors. *


SAbihin mo yan sa Coaching staff at mga players niyo.

toti_mendiola
09-01-2007, 08:12 AM
Such a shame that a thrilling and exciting game would have a nasty sidenote to it. i'm a red blooded bedan and i wont hesitate to say that those two "bedan alumni" supporters who allegedly cussed and provoked the letran coaching staff and subsequently triggering a brawl could call themselves BEDANS. Shame on you! In events such as these, whether player or spectator, always bear in mind that you carry the name of your alma mater.

What's worse, these two people who were "so brave" when jeering, tucked their tails between their legs and tried to run away when the other side was already retaliating. Mang aasar duwag naman pala! PWEEEE! You ought to be ashamed calling yourselves BEDANS! if indeed you guys are really bedans. Baka naman kicked out kayo or expelled from San Beda pero nagpapanggap na bedista pa rin! Someone ought to teach these guys a lesson. I mean jeering and cheering are but normal in games but to be upfront and in-your-face disrepectful and "bastos" is another thing. They didn't teach us to be that way in San Beda.

ANIMO SAN BEDA!!!! GO SAN BEDA FIGHT!!!


::) :o.

gameface_one
09-01-2007, 11:50 AM
Letran, San Beda rumble in post- game
abs-cbnnews.com


Violence ensued at the San Beda Red Lions-San Juan de Letran Knights game after both teams exchanged blows Friday after their match at the Araneta Coliseum, ABS-CBN News reported.

The fight happened after the Red Lions won over the Knights, 87-84. The report said that since the first half of the game, San Beda have been taunting players of Letran.

After the game, the coaching staff of Letran approached the bench of San Beda which caused the two sides to clash. The report said both sides were hurling objects and punches.

The National Collegiate Athletics Association (NCAA) has yet to issue a statement on the matter.

razor
09-01-2007, 12:20 PM
Letran, San Beda rumble in post- game
abs-cbnnews.com


Violence ensued at the San Beda Red Lions-San Juan de Letran Knights game after both teams exchanged blows Friday after their match at the Araneta Coliseum, ABS-CBN News reported.

The fight happened after the Red Lions won over the Knights, 87-84. The report said that since the first half of the game, San Beda have been taunting players of Letran.

After the game, the coaching staff of Letran approached the bench of San Beda which caused the two sides to clash. The report said both sides were hurling objects and punches.

The National Collegiate Athletics Association (NCAA) has yet to issue a statement on the matter.



Totally inaccurate. The Red Lions were not involved in the taunting incident and did not participate in the brawl.

christian
09-01-2007, 12:49 PM
Hehehe Simula pa lang ng game, may sumigaw na sa Letran Upper A & B sections ng "Squatter", ayun ibinalik sa kanila, parang Bedan Wave yan eh, may nagsimula, bumalik din sa nagsimula ;D Nasa lower B kami magnum_motoki likod ng goal ng SBC, kaya kitang kita/rinig namin yung nangyari. Ganda pa naman ng game.

Ang tanong, bakit papatol ang coach? Kitang kita pa si M. ALAS na sumuntok sa isang bedista, left hand pa nya ang ginamit, tapos sugod na rin si Louie. Si Reposar sumugod din, pati si Quinday tsk tsk tsk... Normal ang asaran kapag basketball ang laro. May nampikon, may napikon ;)

Last year ganyan din si Louie Alas, hinamon nya ng suntukan yung referee (SBC-CSJL game) thrown out sya, wala nga lang suspension. Ngayon, kapag walang na-suspend sa CSJL, wala na talagang kuwenta si Narvasa.

abcdboy
09-01-2007, 12:58 PM
Gusto yata nung mga ibang nagmamalinis na bedista kapag ginulpi yung katabi mo magsorry ka sa mga nanggulpi eh. Para classy. ;D

toti_mendiola
09-01-2007, 01:08 PM
Dapat kasi walang mga bedans dun sa may Bench area ng Letran.
ang pinagtataka ko, nandun sila na parang may plano? may seating numbers ang tickets sa Araneta, dapat dun sila nagpalagay sa Bedan side.Eh Bakit nandun pa, eh ang daming bakante naman na upuan dun sa courtside/Araneta. Volatile na nga ang situation dun. nang-asar pa.Tapos sisihin niyo Letran??

Look at your Coach Lim, hinamon niya ng suntukan yung side ng
JRU after being heckled by the latter? ano ginawa ni
Vanguardia? di ba pinigilan niya. eh si Lim? gusto talagang makipagsuntukan!

Ano ginawa ni Ekwe dun kay lee, sinipa niya( after being trash
talked/heckled/hard fouled) diba? earning him a 1 game supension!

A bedan player punching an NU player,againg after being heckled/trash talked/ hard fouled?

Ano, class ba yun?


This was posted in pex. I could have easily get back at a moronic post such as this but my self imposed hiatus from pex remains in effect.
You cannot control your seating number or seating arrangement because you are assigned to the particular seatnumber indicated in the tickets.
To assume that Bedans have schemed to seat behind their bench and planned this to happen is such a stupid remark processed by an imbecile imagination.
Bottomline is Coach L.Alas is one hell of a coach but is easily pissed off when losing.
Sa tingin ninyo susugod siya kung sakaling *nanalo ang mga taga muralla?



To the letran gamefacers here;
kindly invite these two gentlemen right here so we could talk about their pathetic damage control here as long as they want to.


KnightofLetran *
azul_81

bugleboy
09-01-2007, 02:28 PM
as i said, i didn't see any letran player hitting anybody. *what i saw were letran and san beda alumni punching each other out like kids in a playground. *nakakahiya at nakakainis.

i hope all of us are all mature enough to know what is right and wrong here. *we should not condone the wrong actions of people just because we happen to be wearing the same school colors. *


SAbihin mo yan sa Coaching staff at mga players niyo.


Noted. Sana sabihan mo rin ang gallery niyo.

Mang_Roger
09-01-2007, 03:04 PM
I was there in the game.

Minura po ng alumni ng San Beda si coach Louie Alas at Asst. Coach Mel Alas, tapos sumugod 'yung alumni ng Letran sa alumni ng San Beda. Both sides may fault. Yung pagmumura nakapagprovoke. Tapos the crowd went wild because of the incident.

Nanalo na nga ang San Beda, bakit nagmura pa ang alumni nila?

At bakit nag-throw ng bottles ang mga Bedan? Kitang-kita na sa kanila nanggaling 'yung bottles. Kaya sumigaw ng squatter ang Letran because of that incident (throwing bottles).
Nakakabigla talaga.

I'm just giving you guys another side of the story. I was there when it happened.

Just an observance.

Somos Primeros Letran!
Arriba Letran!


I was also there when it happened.

Jeering and heckling are part of the game. If the bedan attacked Loiue Alas then he has every right to get infuriated and fight back.

Louie Alas and his coaching staff really planned to beat the bedan, win or lose. I have high regards to Louie Alas as a coach but what he did is totally outrageous and uncalled for. He and his coaching staff practically charged to the fans and with a pre conceived plan to beat him to pulp. They all attacked from all corners leaving the bedan with no means of escape. It was a concerted act.

If this is the kind of opponents we have in the NCAA, I don't mind taking a leave or bolt out of the NCAA.

Nakaka-inis na!

Howard the Duck
09-01-2007, 03:26 PM
Dapat kasi walang mga bedans dun sa may Bench area ng Letran.
ang pinagtataka ko, nandun sila na parang may plano? may seating numbers ang tickets sa Araneta, dapat dun sila nagpalagay sa Bedan side.Eh Bakit nandun pa, eh ang daming bakante naman na upuan dun sa courtside/Araneta. Volatile na nga ang situation dun. nang-asar pa.Tapos sisihin niyo Letran??

Look at your Coach Lim, hinamon niya ng suntukan yung side ng
JRU after being heckled by the latter? ano ginawa ni
Vanguardia? di ba pinigilan niya. eh si Lim? gusto talagang makipagsuntukan!

Ano ginawa ni Ekwe dun kay lee, sinipa niya( after being trash
talked/heckled/hard fouled) diba? earning him a 1 game supension!

A bedan player punching an NU player,againg after being heckled/trash talked/ hard fouled?

Ano, class ba yun?


This was posted in pex. I could have easily get back at a moronic post such as this but my self imposed hiatus from pex remains in effect.
You cannot control your seating number or seating arrangement because you are assigned to the particular seatnumber indicated in the tickets.
To assume that Bedans have schemed to seat behind their bench and planned this to happen is such a stupid remark processed by an imbecile imagination.
Bottomline is Coach L.Alas is one hell of a coach but is easily pissed off when losing.
Sa tingin ninyo susugod siya kung sakaling nanalo ang mga taga muralla?



To the letran gamefacers here;
kindly invite these two gentlemen right here so we could talk about their pathetic damage control here as long as they want to.


KnightofLetran
azul_81




teka muna, di ba dapat ang sistema ang ang immediate vicinity ng team bench ay mga supporters ng team sitting on that bench?

oca
09-01-2007, 06:07 PM
First, look at the pictures at ubelt. Second photo from the top left corner, two men each with both hands raised. These two men were jeering the Letran team for practically the entirety of the game. They were seated at the ringside section beside the Letran bench.

Sometime in the middle of the game, Louie Alas responded by gesturing something. Apparently, the two "got into Louie". At about the same time, AC security men approached the two... may sinabi lang...ek, ek. For a few minutes may naka detail na security sa section but later abandoned the area.

End of game, the Letran coaching staff, minus Louie, confronted the two. It was Latonio whom I saw first "crossed that barrier". Mel Alas soon followed.

Nagduruan. Naghamunan.

Si Mel Alas ang nakita kong unang bumitaw ng kamao. At that instance, saka nagkagulo.

Yan, ang nakita ko.

Opinyon ko:

At that moment Louie resonded to the two men jeering, the AC security men should have "marked" those men and the section in general. At the final buzzer, mas inuna pa ng security men na maglagay ng human barrier at midcourt para maiwasan mag-abot ang dalawang koponan patungong locker rooms. Lintek, o.a. naman yun. Malinaw sa buong laro na walang alitan between the players. Para que maglagay ka ng isang dosenang security personal sa court and "abandon that section"?

For the Letran coaches to "cross the barrier and confront the two men" was outright wrong. Sa kahit anong dahilan, mali yun. That is indefensible.

We don't have to discuss that point further. All we need to do is recall the incidents at other leagues when "team member/s" would actually go up the stands to confront an unruly patron.

Malinaw ang demarcation line na nakatalaga para sa mga teams. Infact, we can say there is already a "universal law" on these. Players, coaches and other team personel cannot cross that "line".

The throwing and pelting started when the commotion at that ringside section went out of hand. It was the crowds reaction to what was happening below. Had the AC security been on top of the situation, it would not have happened.

T@angina itong mga security ng AC, ang lalaki ng katawan hanggang porma lang pala. If they think masisindak ang NCAA crowd sa kanila, dapat may natutunan sila kahapon.

Security cannot be reactive. Dapat pangunahan mo ang situation. Nuong "nag interact si Louie sa dalawang nagje-jeer" and seeing that both were at it the entire game, eto lang dapat nilang ginawa -

-- ask the two to move to another section, or
-- escort the two out agad, or
-- put a "security detail in that section until after the Letran team was out of the playing area".

Is this hindsight? Of course not, ginawa na nila yan before. Ewan ko bakit di ginawa kahapon. Maybe napakadalang maglaro ng NCAA sa AC kaya di nila kilala ang crowd.

It was a great game. Pero as I stepped out of the venue, you have that empty feeling. Panghihinyang ang nararamdaman mo.

A final note, in as much as I would want to label the two men as alumnus of SBC, fact is we cannot say with certainty. Kaya nga sa pasimula ko pa lang, I pointed them out para kung may nakakakilala ay masabi kung "taga-saan". Sa dami na nang napanood kong laro sa NCAA, hindi pamilyar sa akin ang mukha ng dalawa.

oca
09-01-2007, 06:10 PM
Dapat kasi walang mga bedans dun sa may Bench area ng Letran.
ang pinagtataka ko, nandun sila na parang may plano? may seating numbers ang tickets sa Araneta, dapat dun sila nagpalagay sa Bedan side.Eh Bakit nandun pa, eh ang daming bakante naman na upuan dun sa courtside/Araneta. Volatile na nga ang situation dun. nang-asar pa.Tapos sisihin niyo Letran??

Look at your Coach Lim, hinamon niya ng suntukan yung side ng
JRU after being heckled by the latter? ano ginawa ni
Vanguardia? di ba pinigilan niya. eh si Lim? gusto talagang makipagsuntukan!

Ano ginawa ni Ekwe dun kay lee, sinipa niya( after being trash
talked/heckled/hard fouled) diba? earning him a 1 game supension!

A bedan player punching an NU player,againg after being heckled/trash talked/ hard fouled?

Ano, class ba yun?


This was posted in pex. I could have easily get back at a moronic post such as this but my self imposed hiatus from pex remains in effect.
You cannot control your seating number or seating arrangement because you are assigned to the particular seatnumber indicated in the tickets.
To assume that Bedans have schemed to seat behind their bench and planned this to happen is such a stupid remark processed by an imbecile imagination.
Bottomline is Coach L.Alas is one hell of a coach but is easily pissed off when losing.
Sa tingin ninyo susugod siya kung sakaling nanalo ang mga taga muralla?



To the letran gamefacers here;
kindly invite these two gentlemen right here so we could talk about their pathetic damage control here as long as they want to.


KnightofLetran
azul_81




teka muna, di ba dapat ang sistema ang ang immediate vicinity ng team bench ay mga supporters ng team sitting on that bench?


The lower sections we would expect reserved for the Letran community were not sold out. That was evident during the game. So anyone buying at the gates can pick any of those seats, and if you went there puposely to jeer and heckle, what section would you prefer?

I bought my ticket at Araneta, that section had a lot of unsold seats. Even the section behind the Letran bench had a number of unsold seats. Mas mura lang ang ringside section kaya yun ang binili ko.

lionbanker
09-01-2007, 06:47 PM
ASAR TALO!!!!

Have high respect to Coach Louie Alas, magaling mag coach yung nga lang kailangan pa ata ng unting basketball knowledge pa di marunong maghandle ng pangaasar ng crowd, kaya siguro nawala sa PBA?

Meron mga taga Shaw Blvd. na masayang masaya sa nangyayari may chance pa sila to get the no. 2 position, Si Supan et. al. malamang binabasa maigi yung rule book ng NCAA bago maglabas ng decision baka maahiya na naman eh. ;D :D

aircanda
09-01-2007, 08:10 PM
Watch the Letran - San Beda Finals.* ;D



sori pare..im thinking of a mapua-letran finals.. hehehe.. (being optimistic lang..)

abcdef
09-01-2007, 08:18 PM
What are the sanctions? Kung suspension for the entire season ay equvalent ng ginawa ni Al Jamal. Siguro more than suspension for the whole season ang dapat diyan.

supremo
09-01-2007, 08:43 PM
interview sa mancomm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIGnreqzV1U

kung tama pagkakarinig ko sa sinabe dito ni atayde...

"not coach loiue alas, not the players. based on reports, unfortunatlely, only two of the coaching went over the stands"

sbe rin ni supan: " we got the names of the involved adn we're banning them from watching the rest of the games...." tapos ask ung interviewers " what's their names?....players?" sbe ni supan.."NO PLAYERS, NO PLAYERS..."

TAMA BA TO?...or mali lang ako ng rinig dito. kala ko ba si jazul?, #12, and coach alas ang nag over the fence papuntang patron ng araneta?...eh bakit wla daw players and not coach louie alas daw?

Got this one from other site. Hmm... Eto lang masasabi ko MANCOM...
Bobo mo talaga supan, eh ano naman kung nakuha mo yung mga pangalan? Kelangan ba ng ID or passport pagbumili ka ng ticket sa ticketnet or counter? Another thing, si aljamal gusto nyo i-suspend dahil sa vague rule nyo na kelangan mag-paalam before the PBA draft pero ito, brawling incident involving players and coaches of letran, warning lang. Ano to, cover-up? JRU talaga, utak Hopia. Mga bobo. Leche!

franz_inwurdz
09-01-2007, 08:59 PM
interview sa mancomm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIGnreqzV1U

kung tama pagkakarinig ko sa sinabe dito ni atayde...

"not coach loiue alas, not the players. based on reports, unfortunatlely, only two of the coaching went over the stands"

sbe rin ni supan: " we got the names of the involved adn we're banning them from watching the rest of the games...." tapos ask ung interviewers " what's their names?....players?" sbe ni supan.."NO PLAYERS, NO PLAYERS..."

TAMA BA TO?...or mali lang ako ng rinig dito. kala ko ba si jazul?, #12, and coach alas ang nag over the fence papuntang patron ng araneta?...eh bakit wla daw players and not coach louie alas daw?

Got this one from other site. Hmm... Eto lang masasabi ko MANCOM...
Bobo mo talaga supan, eh ano naman kung nakuha mo yung mga pangalan? Kelangan ba ng ID or passport pagbumili ka ng ticket sa ticketnet or counter? Another thing, si aljamal gusto nyo i-suspend dahil sa vague rule nyo na kelangan mag-paalam before the PBA draft pero ito, brawling incident involving players and coaches of letran, warning lang. Ano to, cover-up? JRU talaga, utak Hopia. Mga bobo. Leche!


I was at Patron 109. Marming players ang nakaakyat. Isa na dito si Melegrito na naki gulo. at yung coaching staff nya. Ok uncalled for yung bedistang nang-aasar. (Oo bedista sya oca. I even know his name). PERO COACH KA, PLAYER KA! Dapat sa inyo ma-ban sa NC!

abcdef
09-01-2007, 09:24 PM
WTF!? NO PLAYERS INVOLVED!? I know we have letranites here and they know that there are players who went to the stands. I know they wouldn't lie because they really know. The letranites point of contention is that the persons who should be at fault are the ones who got into Louie Alas' head, however since there are no rules that would sanction the fans except for a ban in the games, the people who should be given the sanctions are the ones who attacked him because they are the players and coaches that are bound by the rules of the NCAA. Now, according to what I heard from the youtube, there where no players who are INVOLVED in the incident.

Now I ask the letranites here, ARE THERE PLAYERS WHO "WENT" TO THE STANDS IN ORDER TO GO AFTER THE ALUMNUS(I)/SUPPORTER(S)?

We BEDANS already accepted that it was the hecklers who should be blamed because they started it but we believe that the acts done by your coaching staffs and players were uncalled for.

Now let us see if you could also objectively give an analysis to the incident that happened after the game, not just immediately after the game but entirely after the game. But first please answer the question. Thanks alot.

Mang_Roger
09-01-2007, 09:35 PM
One thing that surprises me is that the MANCOM is downplaying the fracas at the expense of San Beda. Louie Alas was not even mentioned and worst, even the players of Letran were excluded. I even saw Mark Andaya rushed to the aid of the coaches of Letran. Melegrito and Quinday joined the scuffle. The Mancom kept on pinning down the bedan by saying that* he "instigated" the brawl.

I totally agree with Oca, there is a line drawn between the audience and the bench. Either party may not cross that line. To reiterate, if the bedans attacked Alas or charged the latter, then Alas has every right to defend himself and I won't blame if the whole team would join the brawl.

So what mancom is saying is that an audience should never heckle or jeer because he can be validly beaten into pulp by the coaching staff and the whole bench.

MANCOM HAS LOST CONTROL OF THE LEAGUE.

jayverns
09-01-2007, 10:02 PM
WTF!? NO PLAYERS INVOLVED!? I know we have letranites here and they know that there are players who went to the stands. I know they wouldn't lie because they really know. The letranites point of contention is that the persons who should be at fault are the ones who got into Louie Alas' head, however since there are no rules that would sanction the fans except for a ban in the games, the people who should be given the sanctions are the ones who attacked him because they are the players and coaches that are bound by the rules of the NCAA. Now, according to what I heard from the youtube, there where no players who are INVOLVED in the incident.

Now I ask the letranites here, ARE THERE PLAYERS WHO "WENT" TO THE STANDS IN ORDER TO GO AFTER THE ALUMNUS(I)/SUPPORTER(S)?

We BEDANS already accepted that it was the hecklers who should be blamed because they started it but we believe that the acts done by your coaching staffs and players were uncalled for.

Now let us see if you could also objectively give an analysis to the incident that happened after the game, not just immediately after the game but entirely after the game. But first please answer the question. Thanks alot.







Nung nagpunta ako ng restroom after the game I even heard a Letranite saying na yung mga players nila sumugod sa gallery, ang pagkakasabi pa, "Nakita mo yun? yung players talaga natin ang sumugod". Ang nakita ko nga eh yung player na naka white shirt at si Quinday, may nasapak nga na matandang alumni ng San Beda, yung isa sa tiyan sinuntok.

abcdef
09-01-2007, 10:12 PM
WTF!? NO PLAYERS INVOLVED!? I know we have letranites here and they know that there are players who went to the stands. I know they wouldn't lie because they really know. The letranites point of contention is that the persons who should be at fault are the ones who got into Louie Alas' head, however since there are no rules that would sanction the fans except for a ban in the games, the people who should be given the sanctions are the ones who attacked him because they are the players and coaches that are bound by the rules of the NCAA. Now, according to what I heard from the youtube, there where no players who are INVOLVED in the incident.

Now I ask the letranites here, ARE THERE PLAYERS WHO "WENT" TO THE STANDS IN ORDER TO GO AFTER THE ALUMNUS(I)/SUPPORTER(S)?

We BEDANS already accepted that it was the hecklers who should be blamed because they started it but we believe that the acts done by your coaching staffs and players were uncalled for.

Now let us see if you could also objectively give an analysis to the incident that happened after the game, not just immediately after the game but entirely after the game. But first please answer the question. Thanks alot.







Nung nagpunta ako ng restroom after the game I even heard a Letranite saying na yung mga players nila sumugod sa gallery, ang pagkakasabi pa, "Nakita mo yun? yung players talaga natin ang sumugod". Ang nakita ko nga eh yung player na naka white shirt at si Quinday, may nasapak nga na matandang alumni ng San Beda, yung isa sa tiyan sinuntok.


Let us allow a letranite here in Gameface answer this.Para makita talaga natin kung gaano katotoo sila sa pagiging sincere and objective.

razor
09-01-2007, 10:19 PM
The NCAA MANCOM has issued ‘stern warning’ on Letran assistant coaches Mel Alas and Kris Reyes for their involvement in the endgame fight.

After a thorough investigation by Commissioner Chito Narvasa, it was determined that Reyes and Alas were provoked by several fans that started the fight after the game between Letran and defending champion San Beda College Friday night at the Araneta Coliseum.

The decision of Narvasa not to issue suspension on Alas and Reyes was upheld by the MANCOM.

The NCAA has banned the ‘troublemakers’ who started the fight from entering game venues of the NCAA.

The MANCOM will also implement tighter security measures in its next games, both at the Araneta Coliseum and The Arena in San Juan.

Paul Supan, MANCONM Chairman

... thorough investigation ?!? ::)

lekiboy
09-01-2007, 10:36 PM
One thing that surprises me is that the MANCOM is downplaying the fracas at the expense of San Beda. Louie Alas was not even mentioned and worst, even the players of Letran were excluded. I even saw Mark Andaya rushed to the aid of the coaches of Letran. Melegrito and Quinday joined the scuffle. The Mancom kept on pinning down the bedan by saying that* he "instigated" the brawl.

I totally agree with Oca, there is a line drawn between the audience and the bench. Either party may not cross that line. To reiterate, if the bedans attacked Alas or charged the latter, then Alas has every right to defend himself and I won't blame if the whole team would join the brawl.

So what mancom is saying is that an audience should never heckle or jeer because he can be validly beaten into pulp by the coaching staff and the whole bench.

MANCOM HAS LOST CONTROL OF THE LEAGUE.


Nope - MANCOME HAS LOST ITS MIND>>>>

jayverns
09-01-2007, 10:43 PM
One thing that surprises me is that the MANCOM is downplaying the fracas at the expense of San Beda. Louie Alas was not even mentioned and worst, even the players of Letran were excluded. I even saw Mark Andaya rushed to the aid of the coaches of Letran. Melegrito and Quinday joined the scuffle. The Mancom kept on pinning down the bedan by saying that* he "instigated" the brawl.

I totally agree with Oca, there is a line drawn between the audience and the bench. Either party may not cross that line. To reiterate, if the bedans attacked Alas or charged the latter, then Alas has every right to defend himself and I won't blame if the whole team would join the brawl.

So what mancom is saying is that an audience should never heckle or jeer because he can be validly beaten into pulp by the coaching staff and the whole bench.

MANCOM HAS LOST CONTROL OF THE LEAGUE.


Nope - MANCOME HAS LOST ITS MIND>>>>




i definitely agree! at yan ay dahil sa mga stupidong sina Paul Supan at Henry Atayde, sana next year since iba na ang host mawala na tong mga kabalbalan na to.

lekiboy
09-02-2007, 12:23 AM
One thing that surprises me is that the MANCOM is downplaying the fracas at the expense of San Beda. Louie Alas was not even mentioned and worst, even the players of Letran were excluded. I even saw Mark Andaya rushed to the aid of the coaches of Letran. Melegrito and Quinday joined the scuffle. The Mancom kept on pinning down the bedan by saying that* he "instigated" the brawl.

I totally agree with Oca, there is a line drawn between the audience and the bench. Either party may not cross that line. To reiterate, if the bedans attacked Alas or charged the latter, then Alas has every right to defend himself and I won't blame if the whole team would join the brawl.

So what mancom is saying is that an audience should never heckle or jeer because he can be validly beaten into pulp by the coaching staff and the whole bench.

MANCOM HAS LOST CONTROL OF THE LEAGUE.


Nope - MANCOME HAS LOST ITS MIND>>>>





HERE IS A SAMPLE:

Letran asst coaches reprimanded
By Joey Villar
Sunday, September 2, 2007
Letran assistant coaches Mel Alas and Kris Reyes were issued stern warning by the NCAA management committee for fighting it out with fans after their team, the Letran Knights, lost to the San Beda Red Lions, 84-87, Friday at the Araneta Coliseum.

“Actually I inhibited myself from the meeting last night (Friday) because we’re facing Letran on Monday,” said Mancom chairman Paul Supan of Jose Rizal who nonetheless revealed the warning given the erring Letran assistant coaches.

“Mancom vice chair Ding Lozano of Mapua presided over the meeting and based on what he told me, the assistant coaches who figured in the fight were sternly warned,” Supan added.

The league is also implementing tighter security measures following the Friday incident.

“We’ll look for added security from both our side and the venue,” said Supan.

Mancom member Henry Atayde of St. Benilde said they had identified some rowdy fans and have banned them from entering any NCAA-sanctioned events.

“We have the right to refuse them,” said Atayde.

A week ago, coaches Frankie Lim of San Beda and Ariel Vanguardia of Jose Rizal were also warned for nearly coming to blows right after their bruising match at The Arena in San Juan. Another infraction would mean automatic one-game suspension.

The fight started when Alas, brother of Letran mentor Louie Alas, and Reyes charged to the gallery to confront jeering San Beda fans.

Irate fans from both camps joined the melee, engaging in a debris pelting incident that lasted for about 10 minutes.

“From now on, we will have watchers. Whoever will be caught throwing anything inside the court will be immediately taken out of the venue, we don’t want trouble makers in this league,” said Supan. - talk about containment plans and objective judgment....

danny
09-02-2007, 01:24 AM
OK na guys. Hayaan na natin yan. A major daily already reported the incident.

To quote* Philippine Star:

The fight started when Alas, brother of Letran mentor Louie Alas, and Reyes charged to the gallery to confront jeering San Beda fans.
http://philstar.com/index.php?Sports&p=49&type=2&sec=30&aid=20070901159


Pwede na yan mga pare ko kahit hindi nabanggit ang reaksyon ni Coach L. Alas at nung mga Letran players.* NCAA Mancom? Outnumbered tayo. Daanin natin sa media ang laban. ;)

At dahil hindi tayo "officials" pwede tayong ipatalsik sa labas ng venue. Buti pa yung officials, pwedeng manapak at "slap on the wrist" lang ang ibibigay. Hay buhay.

Napaisip tuloy ako, mukhang tama nga ang maging magnanakaw basta government official ka. Proud pa ano? ONLI IN THE PILPINS. :D

abcdef
09-02-2007, 09:57 AM
Ganun lang yun? Haay naku. . . . . Ok I conceed. . . . . .Babalik at babalik din yan sa kanila. Manny Pangilinan was there and perhaps he is thinking that NCAA is not for San BEda anymore.

"it started with a bedan alumnus distracting coach louie i think it happened in the 2nd or 3rd quarter saying vulgar words and challenged coach louie to a fist fght which also caught the attenton of the assistant coaches. so after the game coach louie confronted the man and "inawat" while some of the assistant coaches took over and they confronted the noisy alumnus and punched him repeatedly then some bedan supporters tried to help the guy by punching back but they found themselves facing other enemies... the players. after that hell break loose bedans started throwing their sodas to the players while fought back by also throwing then the students made their own rambulan. even when the knights went out of the court bedans shouted vulgar words to them while doing the middle finger sign and some throw sodas at them. the alma mater song of both schools wasn't played because of what happened.

my opinion here is i don't think that there will be a suspension or ban because it happened after the game and the incident was never caught on tape. this also reminds me of the dlsu-admu final 4 game in 2003."

Quoting someone from letran admiting their players are involved

redbluegreen018
09-02-2007, 12:33 PM
wow... "stern warning" pala...

so... ganito pala iyan...

Aljamal getting drafted to the PBA = Season suspension AND forfeiture of games.

Letran Staff mauling fans = "stern warning"

YES NAMAN! galing ng ManCom. thumbs up. very very... ewan ko na lang sa inyo. :| :|

jayverns
09-02-2007, 12:53 PM
ah so ok lang pala na manapak yung mga players, WOOOOOOOOOOW! sabihin ng may mali yung ibang Bedista dahil nambato, pero kitang-kita kung paano nag ober da bakod si Quinday at ung isang player, NANAPAK PA! ANG GAGALING NIYO!!!!

Ramirez
09-02-2007, 12:56 PM
Lokohan na ito. The NCAA has finally lost its credibility as an athletic organization. To all the people who caught the fisticuffs on video I implore you to disseminate them as much as you can.

Dark Knight
09-02-2007, 12:59 PM
Someone must give Supan and company STERN WARNING for making lame decisions. ;D

redbluegreen018
09-02-2007, 01:24 PM
Someone must give Supan and company STERN WARNING for making lame decisions.* ;D


dapat lang! ;D

lekiboy
09-02-2007, 01:36 PM
Lokohan na ito.* The NCAA has finally lost its credibility as an athletic organization.* To all the people who caught the fisticuffs on video I implore you to disseminate them as much as you can.*


we have the video...stay tuned.

let the people assigned do their job while we focus in supporting the team....

magnum_motoki
09-02-2007, 02:00 PM
What's new? Well, what do you know, NCAA MANCOM just outdid themselves again...

They just banned two "NCAA FANS" ...again.."FANS", for being charged at and attacked by 2 of Letran's security guards moonlighting as assistant coaches. Not being enough, their headcoach Alas herded his players and joined the fracas themselves....

Probably this is the only league in the world who would rather lose spectators than attract ones. Sirs, jeering and tauting opposing teams has been part of the game from the very start. As the saying goes.."If you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen"..... i'll even throw-in the sink.

Who'll be the NCAA hosts next year?....Ngayon pa lang binabalaan ko na kayo. Don't undermine and sabotage the country's oldest basketball league, THE NCAA... co-founded by ...SAN BEDA.... The only remaining original member.

razor
09-02-2007, 04:19 PM
Letran asst coaches reprimanded
By Joey Villar
Sunday, September 2, 2007

Letran assistant coaches Mel Alas and Kris Reyes were issued stern warning by the NCAA management committee for fighting it out with fans after their team, the Letran Knights, lost to the San Beda Red Lions, 84-87, Friday at the Araneta Coliseum.

“Actually I inhibited myself from the meeting last night (Friday) because we’re facing Letran on Monday,” said Mancom chairman Paul Supan of Jose Rizal who nonetheless revealed the warning given the erring Letran assistant coaches.


Supan is proud that he even inhibited himself from the discussion because they have a game against Letran. Kunwari may delicadeza siya and JRU does not want to take advantage of the situation;D. But on the Aljamal he did not inhibit himself but even spearheaded the disqualification move.

lionbanker
09-02-2007, 04:51 PM
Takot na kasi si Supan, baka makuryente na naman and syempre confident na naman siya na kaya talunin ang Letran. Yung wish niya na no. 2 spot e malalaman natin sa Monday.....ooops pano pag natalo ang mga hopia baka kung ano na namang ang gawin niya.

lekiboy
09-02-2007, 08:05 PM
Letran asst coaches* reprimanded
By Joey Villar
Sunday, September 2, 2007

Letran assistant coaches Mel Alas and Kris Reyes were issued stern warning by the NCAA management committee for fighting it out with fans after their team, the Letran Knights, lost to the San Beda Red Lions, 84-87, Friday at the Araneta Coliseum.

“Actually I inhibited myself from the meeting last night (Friday) because we’re facing Letran on Monday,” said Mancom chairman Paul Supan of Jose Rizal who nonetheless revealed the warning given the erring Letran assistant coaches.


Supan is proud that he even inhibited himself from the discussion because they have a game against Letran. Kunwari may delicadeza siya* and JRU does not want to take advantage of the situation;D. But on the Aljamal he did not inhibit himself but even spearheaded the disqualification move.



akala kasi niya kasing tanga niya lahat ng mga tao sa pailigid nya..... nasanay siguro sa mga lagi niyang kasama.... ;D

Howard the Duck
09-02-2007, 08:45 PM
i thought the UAAP board was crap....

now the NCAA MANCOM gives crap a good name :P

bugleboy
09-02-2007, 10:52 PM
WTF!? NO PLAYERS INVOLVED!? I know we have letranites here and they know that there are players who went to the stands. I know they wouldn't lie because they really know. The letranites point of contention is that the persons who should be at fault are the ones who got into Louie Alas' head, however since there are no rules that would sanction the fans except for a ban in the games, the people who should be given the sanctions are the ones who attacked him because they are the players and coaches that are bound by the rules of the NCAA. Now, according to what I heard from the youtube, there where no players who are INVOLVED in the incident.

Now I ask the letranites here, ARE THERE PLAYERS WHO "WENT" TO THE STANDS IN ORDER TO GO AFTER THE ALUMNUS(I)/SUPPORTER(S)?

We BEDANS already accepted that it was the hecklers who should be blamed because they started it but we believe that the acts done by your coaching staffs and players were uncalled for.

Now let us see if you could also objectively give an analysis to the incident that happened after the game, not just immediately after the game but entirely after the game. But first please answer the question. Thanks alot.







i already said that i saw at least one player go into the stands, although i did not see who it was since i was on the other side of the coliseum. i also did not see the player taking any swing at any bedan supporter. i hope that answers your question.

toti_mendiola
09-02-2007, 11:11 PM
as i said, i didn't see any letran player hitting anybody. *what i saw were letran and san beda alumni punching each other out like kids in a playground. *nakakahiya at nakakainis.

i hope all of us are all mature enough to know what is right and wrong here. *we should not condone the wrong actions of people just because we happen to be wearing the same school colors. *


SAbihin mo yan sa Coaching staff at mga players niyo.


Noted.* Sana sabihan mo rin ang gallery niyo.


Na ano? huwag mang asar at magmura?
Ilan ba yung sinugod ng napakaraming coaching staff at players niyo? dalawa lang diba. madali lang sabihan. ikaw.. kaya mo sabihan coaching staff niyo?

julianne_10
09-03-2007, 12:30 AM
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lestat2377
09-03-2007, 12:32 AM
O sya, sya....'nuff said. Bato bato sa langit, tamaan wag magagalit! Always bear in mind, ang pikon, laging talo. To the "hecklers" who hit below the belt and allegedly got into the Letran coaching staff's head -- SHAME ON YOU! WALA NAMAN BASTUSAN MGA 'TOL. To the Letran coaching staff and players who allegedly charged the stands to confront the hecklers -- YOU SHOULD KNOW BETTER THAN TO LOSE YOUR COOL OVER A STUPID HECKLING AND JEERING INCIDENT! BAKA MASAYANG LANG CAREERS NYO KUNG LAGI KAYO MAPIPIKON NG GANYAN. And to the NCAA MANCOM --- SITUATIONS LIKE THESE HAVE HAPPENED BEFORE. ALTHOUGH NOT THAT FREQUENT, DON'T YOU THINK IT'S TIME TO REVIEW YOUR SECURITY MEASURES AND CONTINGENCY PLANS SO THAT THIS INCIDENT WOULD BE AVOIDED IN THE FUTURE? AND YES, I AGREE THAT THERE SHOULD BE STIFFER PENALTIES IN OCCURRENCES LIKE THESE. BE IT BEFORE, DURING OR AFTER THE GAME. THE LINE BETWEEN SPECTATORS AND PLAYERS/COACHES SHOULD NEVER BE CROSSED OR BREACHED FOR ANY REASON. IT LEAVES A BAD TASTE TO ANY SPORT AND MAKES ONE LOSE SIGHT OF THE REAL OBJECTIVE OF SPORTS...UNITY. Yun lang po. Salamat.

On a lighter note, my fearless forecast is that after these cage wars are over and after the dust have settled, it would be THE SAN BEDA RED LIONS who would reign supreme in the NCAA once again!!! Now dare challenge that! Hehe! Peace!!! GO SAN BEDA FIGHT!!!

Howard the Duck
09-03-2007, 08:22 AM
ano kayang klaseng heckling ang pinaggagawa ng mga bedans at sobrasng napikon ang letran coaches? ;D

toti_mendiola
09-03-2007, 08:32 AM
ano kayang klaseng heckling ang pinaggagawa ng mga bedans at sobrasng napikon ang letran coaches? ;D


Wala naman masyado puros mga sweet nothings lang na PI mo,Jazul at guevarra pinagbiyak na mangga, M.ALAS., atsaka isang napakahinhin na ngarat.
Meron pa palang FA-UN-DOG!

Howard the Duck
09-03-2007, 09:29 AM
ano kayang klaseng heckling ang pinaggagawa ng mga bedans at sobrasng napikon ang letran coaches? ;D


Wala naman masyado puros mga sweet nothings lang na PI mo,Jazul at guevarra pinagbiyak na mangga, M.ALAS., atsaka isang napakahinhin na ngarat.
Meron pa palang FA-UN-DOG!

ok lang pala pwera sa "PI" bad talaga yun. kahit ako mapapaaway :P

sino bang naghamon ng away.

toti_mendiola
09-03-2007, 10:38 AM
parehas sila. suntukan daw mano mano. eh ang nangyari buong coaching staff pala laban sa dalawa.
Matatapang.

Howard the Duck
09-03-2007, 10:50 AM
parehas sila. suntukan daw mano mano. eh ang nangyari buong coaching staff pala laban sa dalawa.
Matatapang.
walang iwanan daw :P

toti_mendiola
09-03-2007, 11:04 AM
Eh mas matibay at mas mga lalaki pa yung mga nagsuntukan sa parking lot eh. Mga estudyanteng nag 3 on 3 3ple tag team walang umawat at walang ibang tumulong, yun nga lang gulpi yung mga taga kabila. Pero bilib ako sa mga taga kabila na mga yun mas me honor pa kesa sa mga humahawak ng team nila.

LION
09-03-2007, 11:21 AM
Enough with this already. It's time to focus the discussion on how the MANCOM treated this latest incident.

Howard the Duck
09-03-2007, 12:55 PM
Enough with this already. It's time to focus the discussion on how the MANCOM treated this latest incident.

bopols na commish si chito ;D

MonL
09-03-2007, 02:48 PM
Enough with this already. It's time to focus the discussion on how the MANCOM treated this latest incident.


Like episodes of the A-Team: Lots of explosions and vehicles tumbling once, twice, thrice in mid-air before landing upside down, lots of machine guns firing on both sides, but NO ONE GETS KILLED at all. :P

What a joke of an organization. >:(

Mang_Roger
09-03-2007, 03:28 PM
Ok this is my last take on the matter (well, hopefully):

MANCOM is solely to be blamed for all this controversies, scuffles and fracas.

From the moment they adopted the Soc Rivera rule into the NCAA based on a complaint of a suspended member (PCU) until they tried to pull a fast one against San Beda by penalizing Aljamal based on a non-existing rule, it is quite clear that the whole NCAA is conspiring to prevent San Beda from defending the title.

Such totally malicious and unethical moves clearly being hatched by mancom has sowed discontent and anger in the Bedan community. Mancom's cohorts are likewise adopting a win at all cost attitude whenever they play against San Beda. This can be easily noticed by the numerous flagrant and unsportsman like fouls against the Lions. Gulo talaga ang resulta.

Mancom's bias against San Beda can be likewise noticed when it failed to imposed any sanction against Alas, his coaching staff and players for the fracas. Maliwanag na bumabawi and Mancom sa kahihiyan na inabot nila sa ukol sa Aljamal incident. Sobrang garapalan talaga!

Kaya di na ako magtataka na mainit ang bawat laro na susunod.

Things will only get worse because the body that is expected to implement the rules of the NCAA and act as the mediator in case of disagreements, siya pa ang pasimuno ng kalokohan sa liga. It is no longer advisable to bring your family during the games. Nakakatakot.

I never expected that the league would be this pissed off when San Beda finally woke up and formed a strong basketball program. They can never accept the fact that San Beda is no longer a cellar dweller they use to beat by more than 10 points for the past two decades. Instead of treating such development as a positive note for the league, they ganged up on San Beda. Buong liga naman ang makikinabang. Sabagay, kung talagang makikitid ang utak, di maiisip yun.

Personally, I think San Beda should decide bolting out of the NCAA as soon as possible. I don't mind if San Beda has no league in the meantime and its basketball program would suffer. Kesa naman maraming masasaktan kada laro at walang tigil ang panggagarapal ng ibang iskuwelahan.

mighty_lion
09-03-2007, 03:40 PM
Personally, I think San Beda should decide bolting out of the NCAA as soon as possible. I don't mind if San Beda has no league in the meantime and its basketball program would suffer. Kesa naman maraming masasaktan kada laro at walang tigil ang panggagarapal ng ibang iskuwelahan.


I certainly agree with you on looking at the possibility of moving out from the NCAA. Pero yong wala tayong ligang sasalihan, baka masira yong recruitment natin. Sayang andyan na lahat at me dumadating pa kahit hindi natin pinapanalangin.

San Beda Alabang should should already be looking at taking SBC-Mendiola's place in NCAA. From what I know (though I havent seen thier team this year) okey na ang guard at wingmen line-up nila. Kulang sila sa bigmen. Red Cubs can give them the basket of those quality bigmens in a year or two.

Anyone of you who knows kung sino ang Coach ng SBC-A?

LION
09-03-2007, 04:18 PM
I think the coach is Rene Baena.

mighty_lion
09-03-2007, 05:13 PM
I think the coach is Rene Baena.


Ok thanks. Back to topic na.

bugleboy
09-03-2007, 08:36 PM
as i said, i didn't see any letran player hitting anybody. *what i saw were letran and san beda alumni punching each other out like kids in a playground. *nakakahiya at nakakainis.

i hope all of us are all mature enough to know what is right and wrong here. *we should not condone the wrong actions of people just because we happen to be wearing the same school colors. *


SAbihin mo yan sa Coaching staff at mga players niyo.


Noted.* Sana sabihan mo rin ang gallery niyo.


Na ano? huwag mang asar at magmura?
Ilan ba yung sinugod ng napakaraming coaching staff at players niyo? dalawa lang diba. madali lang sabihan. ikaw.. kaya mo sabihan coaching staff niyo?


yup. madali namang kausapin ang mga iyon kung kausapin mo rin nang mahinahon -- tao sa tao.

abcdef
09-03-2007, 08:56 PM
as i said, i didn't see any letran player hitting anybody. *what i saw were letran and san beda alumni punching each other out like kids in a playground. *nakakahiya at nakakainis.

i hope all of us are all mature enough to know what is right and wrong here. *we should not condone the wrong actions of people just because we happen to be wearing the same school colors. *


SAbihin mo yan sa Coaching staff at mga players niyo.


Noted.* Sana sabihan mo rin ang gallery niyo.


Na ano? huwag mang asar at magmura?
Ilan ba yung sinugod ng napakaraming coaching staff at players niyo? dalawa lang diba. madali lang sabihan. ikaw.. kaya mo sabihan coaching staff niyo?


yup.* madali namang kausapin ang mga iyon kung kausapin mo rin nang mahinahon -- tao sa tao.


apparently the Bedan alumni who was the victim of your coach is a lawyer and went to San BEda a while ago. By the looks of it there are coaches and PLAYERS who would be summoned to court for Physical Injuries. . . . . So I guess that would settle it. Enough of this. Lets move on it is FINAL FOUR!!!!!

Howard the Duck
09-03-2007, 09:39 PM
as i said, i didn't see any letran player hitting anybody. what i saw were letran and san beda alumni punching each other out like kids in a playground. nakakahiya at nakakainis.

i hope all of us are all mature enough to know what is right and wrong here. we should not condone the wrong actions of people just because we happen to be wearing the same school colors.


SAbihin mo yan sa Coaching staff at mga players niyo.


Noted. Sana sabihan mo rin ang gallery niyo.


Na ano? huwag mang asar at magmura?
Ilan ba yung sinugod ng napakaraming coaching staff at players niyo? dalawa lang diba. madali lang sabihan. ikaw.. kaya mo sabihan coaching staff niyo?


yup. madali namang kausapin ang mga iyon kung kausapin mo rin nang mahinahon -- tao sa tao.


apparently the Bedan alumni who was the victim of your coach is a lawyer and went to San BEda a while ago. By the looks of it there are coaches and PLAYERS who would be summoned to court for Physical Injuries. . . . . So I guess that would settle it. Enough of this. Lets move on it is FINAL FOUR!!!!!

Duguan ba itong si Bedan alumnus na ito? Kung di naman duguan ang mukha nito ay to prove a point lang ang kasong ito :P

abcdboy
09-03-2007, 10:07 PM
^Aasarin niya lang siguro letran ;D

danny
09-05-2007, 01:01 AM
Personally, I think San Beda should decide bolting out of the NCAA as soon as possible. I don't mind if San Beda has no league in the meantime and its basketball program would suffer. Kesa naman maraming masasaktan kada laro at walang tigil ang panggagarapal ng ibang iskuwelahan.


I certainly agree with you on looking at the possibility of moving out from the NCAA. Pero yong wala tayong ligang sasalihan, baka masira yong recruitment natin. Sayang andyan na lahat at me dumadating pa kahit hindi natin pinapanalangin.

San Beda Alabang should should already be looking at taking SBC-Mendiola's place in NCAA. From what I know (though I havent seen thier team this year) okey na ang guard at wingmen line-up nila. Kulang sila sa bigmen. Red Cubs can give them the basket of those quality bigmens in a year or two.

Anyone of you who knows kung sino ang Coach ng SBC-A?


NO way pare. Kung tayong taga-Mendiolang sanay sa masa, minsan hindi na malunok ang liga, San Beda Alabang pa.* ;D

We will leave. That is our medium to long term objective. Since we are still here, might as well clean and help improve the league in the short term.* ;)

Tapos na* to ah.

danny
09-05-2007, 03:23 AM
Enough with this already.* It's time to focus the discussion on how the MANCOM treated this latest incident.


Like episodes of the A-Team: Lots of explosions and vehicles tumbling once, twice, thrice in mid-air before landing upside down,* lots of machine guns firing on both sides, but NO ONE GETS KILLED at all. :P*

What a joke of an organization. >:(


"Joke of an organization" is too nice.* *;D

We should now try to introduce the changes we have been talking about through Albert like* the Third Party Audit of student-athlete credentials.

We may be outnumbered but we can turn the media against the majority position.*

In the opinion of Mancom:

1. Flagrant fouls are OK except if you are Sam Ekwe. :D
2. Attacking the crowd in retaliation is OK if you are affiliated ,in an official capacity, with a school. You simply get a slap on the wrist.
3. If you are a heckler, do not provoke the officials of any school, otherwise you will be banned from the league.
4. If you are a star player and role model of the NCAA, you can get banned if you don't ask permission to attend the PBA draft and bring greater glory to the league.


Joke? The joke isn't funny anymore.

Better discuss these things in a new thread.

davrub2003
09-05-2007, 07:37 AM
Enough with this already.* It's time to focus the discussion on how the MANCOM treated this latest incident.


Like episodes of the A-Team: Lots of explosions and vehicles tumbling once, twice, thrice in mid-air before landing upside down,* lots of machine guns firing on both sides, but NO ONE GETS KILLED at all. :P*

What a joke of an organization. >:(



"Joke of an organization" is too nice.* *;D

We should now try to introduce the changes we have been talking about through Albert like* the Third Party Audit of student-athlete credentials.

We may be outnumbered but we can turn the media against the majority position.*

In the opinion of Mancom:

1.* Flagrant fouls are OK except if you are Sam Ekwe. :D
2.* Attacking the crowd in retaliation is OK if you are affiliated ,in an official capacity, with a school. You simply get a slap on the wrist.
3.* If you are a heckler, do not* provoke the officials of any school, otherwise you will be* banned from the league.
4.* If you are a star player and role model of the NCAA, you can get banned if you don't ask permission to attend the PBA draft and bring greater glory to the league.


Joke?* The joke isn't funny anymore.

Better discuss these things in a new thread.







They have to define first what a heckler is and what can be considered as provoking a school official.* If you are cheering for your school that's good.* But with cheering comes along jeering the other school.* Would that now be considered as heckling?
And if a school official hears your jeering remarks, would that also mean provoking him or her?

Might as well just stay home and sit still.

A school official should practice proper decorum befitting a person of that stature.* Whether he was heckled, provoked, jeered, etc., reacting to this in a violent manner should be unacceptable.

If this is really the opinion of Mancomm as mentioned in an earlier post, then they are really a joke of an organization.

In the UAAP, when Mr. Salgado punched FEU's Arwin Santos, he voluntarily withdrawn from La Salle's basketball team he was also banned for life from the UAAP.* People make mistakes.* Answering for your mistakes and taking accountability for them is the noble thing to do.* Letran should do the same.

And not doing anything about the San Beda - Letran incident is just as despicable as a crime committed against an innocent child.

abcdboy
09-05-2007, 08:07 AM
mas mataas na daw ang TV ratings ng NCAA kaysa sa UAAP. ;D

CPA_LLB
09-05-2007, 08:47 AM
apparently the Bedan alumni who was the victim of your coach is a lawyer and went to San BEda a while ago. By the looks of it there are coaches and PLAYERS who would be summoned to court for Physical Injuries. . . . . So I guess that would settle it. Enough of this. Lets move on it is FINAL FOUR!!!!!


Once the Bedan alumnus who was attacked files the complaint for Physical Injuries, let's see if the assistant coaches and players of Letran involved in the mauling incident can still be arrogant when they receive their summons ;D This time, without the school or the league involved in the case, i dont see a compromise or settlement forthcoming.

CPA_LLB
09-05-2007, 08:58 AM
In the opinion of Mancom:

1.* Flagrant fouls are OK except if you are Sam Ekwe. :D
2.* Attacking the crowd in retaliation is OK if you are affiliated, in an official capacity, with a school. You simply get a slap on the wrist.
3.* If you are a heckler, do not* provoke the officials of any school, otherwise you will be* banned from the league.
4.* If you are a star player and role model of the NCAA, you can get banned if you don't ask permission to attend the PBA draft and bring greater glory to the league.



Panalo 'to ;D The NCAA ManCom probably has a set of guidlelines which permits them to have a strict interpretation of the rules when SBC is involved. Baka set A and set B ang rules, one for San Beda, yung rules na mas mahigpit, and another for the other schools.

I hope no more controversial rulings in the coming games, for the good of the league.

GO SAN BEDA FIGHT!

mighty_lion
09-05-2007, 09:19 AM
Regarding jeering. Trashtalking is always part of the game. Pilit man iwasan, minsan andyan talaga. San Beda Bench and Letran Coaching staff are both accountable for what happened. Wag na mag-malinis, parehong me mali kahit saang banda tingnan.

But question is, one sided lang ba ang jeer? I mean San Beda to Letran lang ba. Two sided yan palagi. Not to mention Letran players assaulting trashtalks to our players. Have you seen Escobal retaliating against Balneg or asking him for fist fight.

Dalawang side yan palagi. Yong nag-preempt and yong nag-react. Yong nag-preempt for such a childish act and yong nag-react for another childish act. One way or another you may argue thats its pride. But come to think of it, pride is something you fight for noble and meaningful things.

Both sides may mali. Need just to move on and sana wala na mangyari masama. Its frustrating to see such event in a collegiate leauge.

trencher_k
09-05-2007, 10:01 AM
apparently the Bedan alumni who was the victim of your coach is a lawyer and went to San BEda a while ago. By the looks of it there are coaches and PLAYERS who would be summoned to court for Physical Injuries. . . . . So I guess that would settle it. Enough of this. Lets move on it is FINAL FOUR!!!!!


Once the Bedan alumnus who was attacked files the complaint for Physical Injuries, let's see if the assistant coaches and players of Letran* involved in the mauling incident can still be arrogant when they receive their summons* ;D This time, without the school or the league involved in the case, i dont see a compromise or settlement forthcoming.


Neither do I. This Almnus was already in his fifties, maputi na buhok yet sinapak pa sya ng isang player who was Quinday if I'm not mistaken. The guy was not one of the two hecklers who were accosted by the coaches, nadamay lang sa gulo just because he was wearing Red, tsk,tsk. >:(

chief
09-05-2007, 01:07 PM
It seems to me that the MANCOM's decision is already carved in stone. Looking forward, I think we should just do our best to silence all of our critics, including those who are not rooting for us. All the things that are happening is a reflection of how poorly NCAA is being ran. Then again, I believe no tournament is perfect, UAAP has their share of headaches just for this year, NBA is being hounded by the case of the gambling referee, etc.

What needs to be settled right now is winning the NCAA Season 83 Basketball tourney. Mahirap pa niyan, NCAA starts suspending players and coaches, and everybody else in the land would conveniently say that "natalo kami dahil wala si coach, or natalo kami dahil suspended si team capt" etc. Let's put it this way, we lose.. we lose, we win... we win... it is what it is.

leondealabang
09-05-2007, 06:01 PM
OT: mukang nasa dugo na ata natin yung mambato eh. nakabasa kasi ako sa national lib noong old newspapers. noong 1977, tayong mga bedista sinisisi sa melee with ateneo :(. mukhang kailangang i-check ang ating ranks pero normal lang naman yung gumanti ;D

Stardust
09-06-2007, 11:14 AM
clearly these two photos showed that quinday (#16) and another sjlc player were beyond the railings. see also the family on the right with two kids. it clearly showed that the little girl was traumatized by the incident. i wonder why paul supan and henry atayde kept on saying that no players were over the railings or were involved. i know you're reading this forum. i hope there is still chivalry in your heart to do what is right especially chito who showed his toughness with vanguardia and the jrc players during our recent game against them.

as a bedan, i apologize for the bad-mouthing done by my young brothers and the throwing incident that ensured. but, i believe a ruling was clearly violated by sjlc coaching staff and some of its players that merited more than stern warnings. we have no quarrel with letran, its the NCAA ManCom that pissed us.

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z309/Alex_Bernabe/SBC/sbc-sjlcquinday2.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z309/Alex_Bernabe/SBC/sbc-sjlcquinday.jpg

from the looks of this, louie has just emerged from the railings... and andaya has the temerity to show his face in st placid last sunday then requested security guards excort him out of our campus.

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z309/Alex_Bernabe/SBC/sbc-sjlclouiealasandaya.jpg

oca
09-06-2007, 11:43 AM
The heckling started early in the game and went on until the final buzzer.

Kung di man napatawan ng parusa yung mga "tumawid", baka sometime during the game, ay "nagpaalam" yung mga tumawid na may gagawin sila.

Madali lang naman kausapin ang MANCOM. Ano ba naman yung "magpaalam" ka.

Tignan niyo nangyari kay Aljamal... ::)

christian
09-06-2007, 12:14 PM
In written form ba naman yung "paalam" sir oca? :o

CPA_LLB
09-06-2007, 03:34 PM
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Pictures don't lie. It clearly shows that Coach Louie Alas and the two Letran players were partcipants in the post-game incident. Pero NO sanctions. What about Mr. Andaya, he evidently wanted to join, he should also be banned.

Indeed, MANCOM is blind and biased against San Beda.

oca
09-06-2007, 04:08 PM
^
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Pictures don't lie. It clearly shows that Coach Louie Alas and the two Letran players were partcipants in the post-game incident. Pero NO sanctions. What about Mr. Andaya, he evidently wanted to join, he should also be banned.

Indeed, MANCOM is blind and biased against San Beda.




Quinday was mentioned earlier, the other one was Reposar na pinipigilan ng guard na naka white long sleeve.

leondealabang
09-06-2007, 04:27 PM
syempre, ganun talag pag bedista ka. sikat!!! noong nagpatatalo RL, lagi yun pambara ng mga schools na inggit sa san beda. ngayon wala na sila pambara >:(

jayverns
09-06-2007, 06:39 PM
clearly these two photos showed that quinday (#16) and another sjlc player were beyond the railings.* see also the family on the right with two kids.* it clearly showed that the little girl was traumatized by the incident.* i wonder why paul supan and henry atayde kept on saying that no players were over the railings or were involved.* i know you're reading this forum.* i hope there is still chivalry in your heart to do what is right especially chito who showed his toughness with vanguardia and the jrc players during our recent game against them.

as a bedan, i apologize for the bad-mouthing done by my young brothers and the throwing incident that ensured.* but, i believe a ruling was clearly violated by sjlc coaching staff and some of its players that merited more than stern warnings.* we have no quarrel with letran, its the NCAA ManCom that pissed us.

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z309/Alex_Bernabe/SBC/sbc-sjlcquinday2.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z309/Alex_Bernabe/SBC/sbc-sjlcquinday.jpg

from the looks of this, louie has just emerged from the railings... and andaya has the temerity to show his face in st placid last sunday then requested security guards excort him out of our campus.

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z309/Alex_Bernabe/SBC/sbc-sjlclouiealasandaya.jpg



kaboom! kitang-kita si Quinday, Reposar at Alas ayun inaawat pa! maganda ipadala yan sa mga stupido at backstabbers na sila Supan at Atayde(nakisali ka pa sa kabalbalan para matabunan yung kontrobersiyal na sugarol sa magaling mong school).

ozsalet
09-06-2007, 11:29 PM
uuuhhhmmm ano kaya email nung show nila Bill Velasco sa ANC? magandang issue yata to for them to debate, of course with the permission of Stardust if he will end the pics

danny
09-07-2007, 04:50 AM
I urge everyone to spread these pictures. We have to protect the integrity of the NCAA from the present clowns running the league.

We are outnumbered in the ManCom. Let's bring this to the court of public opinion. >:(

danny
09-07-2007, 06:23 AM
Wait, I said "integrity" of the NCAA. ;D

Damn them all and the useless NCAA Commissioner! Let's protect our interest in the meantime.

trencher_k
09-07-2007, 09:51 AM
clearly these two photos showed that quinday (#16) and another sjlc player were beyond the railings.* see also the family on the right with two kids.* it clearly showed that the little girl was traumatized by the incident.* i wonder why paul supan and henry atayde kept on saying that no players were over the railings or were involved.* i know you're reading this forum.* i hope there is still chivalry in your heart to do what is right especially chito who showed his toughness with vanguardia and the jrc players during our recent game against them.

as a bedan, i apologize for the bad-mouthing done by my young brothers and the throwing incident that ensured.* but, i believe a ruling was clearly violated by sjlc coaching staff and some of its players that merited more than stern warnings.* we have no quarrel with letran, its the NCAA ManCom that pissed us.

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z309/Alex_Bernabe/SBC/sbc-sjlcquinday2.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z309/Alex_Bernabe/SBC/sbc-sjlcquinday.jpg

from the looks of this, louie has just emerged from the railings... and andaya has the temerity to show his face in st placid last sunday then requested security guards excort him out of our campus.

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z309/Alex_Bernabe/SBC/sbc-sjlclouiealasandaya.jpg



The gray-haired guy wearing the red shirt on the first two pictures(middle part, beside the guy with the light gray barong) was the Bedan alumni who was accosted by the Letran player who was wearing a white t-shirt over his jersey. The younger Ventosa was trying to pacify the player kaya lang mainit ang ulo, siguro kasi nakita na may edad na kalaban nya kaya matapang. >:(

We were seated on the lower box portion slightly to the left of that portion of the patron area kaya we had a good view of the incident.

The nerve of Andaya, maghahamon after the game and yet magpapasama sa guards nung nagpunta sa school. Makes you wonder if the guy has the b ;Dlls to compensate his heft.

lekiboy
09-07-2007, 09:54 AM
buti na lang our batch was not postioned in that area - bugbugan siguro ang nangyari - abot sa bahay nila... ;D

mighty_lion
09-07-2007, 10:25 AM
Propose kaya tayo ng boxing events sa NCAA. At least legal na ang bugbugan, me halong strategy at training pa. Tapos merong ala-bantay-bata counterpart all star games. Feature natin yong mga royal rumble moments sa basketball. ;D

Howard the Duck
09-07-2007, 11:10 AM
ayos talaga ang mga bedista dito.... ni di man lang sabihin na sila talaga ang nag-umpisa ng away :D

trencher_k
09-07-2007, 11:14 AM
^^ Pwede din UFC Sir, mala-Chuck "The Iceman" Lidell na din naman buhok ni Ogie. * ;D *

razor
09-07-2007, 11:49 AM
ayos talaga ang mga bedista dito.... ni di man lang sabihin na sila talaga ang nag-umpisa ng away :D


Paul Supan, is that you? Welcome to gameface! ;)

lekiboy
09-07-2007, 12:01 PM
^^ di supan, ariel pangalan niya tol... hehehehe

mighty_lion
09-07-2007, 12:50 PM
ayoko na mag-comment.* ;D ;D ;D

indian
09-07-2007, 01:05 PM
ayos talaga ang mga bedista dito.... ni di man lang sabihin na sila talaga ang nag-umpisa ng away :D


sige, aaminin na namen. aaminin namen na hindi kame yun... ;D

christian
09-07-2007, 01:28 PM
Never kaming nagkasala sir sir Howard ;D Hehehe

eggyboi
09-07-2007, 01:53 PM
isa lang masasabi ko sa incident: college spirit at it's finest!!! ;D
the best!!! everybody fights for there alama matter!!! :D
hahaha!!! :)

lekiboy
09-07-2007, 01:56 PM
isa lang masasabi ko sa incident: college spirit at its finest!!!* ;D
the best!!! everybody fights for their alama matter!!!* :D
hahaha!!! :)


aminado din ako - na di kami ang nag - umpisa.. ;D

bedista_ako
09-07-2007, 02:00 PM
isa lang masasabi ko sa incident: college spirit at its finest!!!* ;D
the best!!! everybody fights for their alama matter!!!* :D
hahaha!!! :)


aminado din ako - na di kami ang nag - umpisa.. ;D


Sige na nga! Aamin na din ako! HINDI KAMI ANG NAGSIMULA!!!

trencher_k
09-07-2007, 02:01 PM
ayos* talaga ang mga bedista dito.... ni di man lang sabihin na sila talaga ang nag-umpisa ng away :D


Paul Supan, is that you? Welcome to gameface!* ;)


We invoke the constitutional right against self-incrimination. * :P

Alternick of the lameDUCK Mancom Chairman? Pwede... *::)

Stardust
09-07-2007, 02:37 PM
ayos talaga ang mga bedista dito.... ni di man lang sabihin na sila talaga ang nag-umpisa ng away :D


prior to posting the photos, i said on behalf of the young bedans i apologize for the bad-mouthing they did towards the letran coaching staff and the throwing incident that ensued. isn't this enough apology and recognition of our err?

your post was the same kind of behavior our young bedans manifested to sjlc coaches that resulted in the melee. i request that you ceased from insulting and insinuating bad things about our school.

aside from the "animo" and the "stand on the grandstand" debates we haven't shown any animosity to your beloved alma mater so extend to us the same courtesy. lest you're just being true to what your insitution stand for -- "ang pagpapahirap at pagsasamantala sa mga kapwa nating filipino na ginawa ng mga ninuno niyong frayle"

kayjay
09-07-2007, 02:47 PM
ayos* talaga ang mga bedista dito.... ni di man lang sabihin na sila talaga ang nag-umpisa ng away :D


Someone's trying to taunt us here...nakakaasar di ba? Pero hindi justified na patulan or bugbugin...

Sounds familiar ba?

LION
09-07-2007, 03:40 PM
ayos* talaga ang mga bedista dito.... ni di man lang sabihin na sila talaga ang nag-umpisa ng away :D


Ayos talaga Howard.

Unang una, wala ka naman dun nung nangyari yun kaya hindi ko alam kung eye witness account yang sinabi mo o base lang sa mga nabasa at narinig mo. Sa ibang salita. Hearsay. Tsismis. ;D

Pangalawa, di kami ang nagsimula ng away. Kami ang nagsimula ng jeering at heckling. Iba yun sa away. ;)

Howard the Duck
09-07-2007, 09:13 PM
ayos talaga ang mga bedista dito.... ni di man lang sabihin na sila talaga ang nag-umpisa ng away :D


Ayos talaga Howard.

Unang una, wala ka naman dun nung nangyari yun kaya hindi ko alam kung eye witness account yang sinabi mo o base lang sa mga nabasa at narinig mo. Sa ibang salita. Hearsay. Tsismis. ;D

Pangalawa, di kami ang nagsimula ng away. Kami ang nagsimula ng jeering at heckling. Iba yun sa away. ;)



Walang away kung walang jeering ;D

dami kaya sa youtube ah.... tingin tayo ;D

trencher_k
09-07-2007, 11:13 PM
^Youtube ba kamo?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyBahM6yzNU

Evidence of Jeering nga to... from the other side. :P

danny
09-08-2007, 01:25 AM
Let's send these pictures to the Dominican friars in Letran. Nagtago daw nung nagkagulo at hindi man lang sinamahan yung Benedictine Monk para pigilan ang coaching staff na lumusob sa kawawang fan. Ayos. :D

Wala pa din bang sanction ang mga players at coaching staff ng Letran?

Kawawang ManCom. Hindi nila alam may nakakuha ng litrato. ;D

danny
09-08-2007, 01:34 AM
ayos* talaga ang mga bedista dito.... ni di man lang sabihin na sila talaga ang nag-umpisa ng away :D


Paul Supan, is that you? Welcome to gameface!* ;)


:D :D :D

danny
09-08-2007, 01:41 AM
ayos* talaga ang mga bedista dito.... ni di man lang sabihin na sila talaga ang nag-umpisa ng away :D


prior to posting the photos, i said on behalf of the young bedans i apologize for the bad-mouthing they did towards the letran coaching staff and the throwing incident that ensued.* isn't this enough apology and recognition of our err?

your post was the same kind of behavior our young bedans manifested to sjlc coaches that resulted in the melee.* i request that you ceased from insulting and insinuating bad things about our school.

aside from the "animo" and the "stand on the grandstand" debates we haven't shown any animosity to your beloved alma mater so extend to us the same courtesy.* lest you're just being true to what your insitution stand for -- "ang pagpapahirap at pagsasamantala sa mga kapwa nating filipino na ginawa ng mga ninuno niyong frayle"


Stardust, this guy from UST has a history of insulting Bedans in the other BS sites.* He is still trying to to feel his way here in gameface. A bit slow nga lang.

Baka naman "p_nis envy", ika nga ni Freud. ;)

Susunod na hirt niyan, "wala akong pake" sa San Beda ulit. Get off our back, Howard. Magpapansin ka na lang sa mga Atenista at La Salista. Hindi ka na nga nila pinapansin eh. :P

5FootCarrot
09-08-2007, 08:13 AM
Get off our back, Howard. Magpapansin ka na lang sa mga Atenista at La Salista. Hindi ka na nga nila pinapansin eh. :P

Hoy, huwag niyong ipasa yan sa amin. Sa mga Lasalista na lang, OK? ;D

kayjay
09-08-2007, 10:20 AM
Walang away kung walang jeering ;D dami kaya sa youtube ah.... tingin tayo ;D

Then practice what you preach --- QUIT the JEERING, at baka may makaaway ka lang.*

Howard the Duck
09-08-2007, 05:54 PM
Walang away kung walang jeering ;D dami kaya sa youtube ah.... tingin tayo ;D

Then practice what you preach --- QUIT the JEERING, at baka may makaaway ka lang.
If you can spot me the jeering on that post, I'll stop. ;D

kats613
09-08-2007, 07:26 PM
Let's send these pictures to the Dominican friars in Letran. Nagtago daw nung* nagkagulo at hindi man lang sinamahan yung Benedictine Monk para pigilan ang coaching staff na lumusob sa kawawang fan. Ayos. :D

Wala pa din bang sanction ang mga players at coaching staff ng Letran?*

Kawawang ManCom. Hindi nila alam may nakakuha ng litrato. ;D


Pare, the thing is that Letran's board rep is our former schoolmate (not to mention kasama sa inuman) during our masters days at ASI. I texted him a couple of times when the Aljamal issue came out but I didn't even get a reply from him. Kung hindi nga nagkaayos sa ABS eh gusto ko sana lapitan si Rollie na kausapin siya para in turn kausapin din ako.

LION
09-10-2007, 07:31 AM
ayos* talaga ang mga bedista dito.... ni di man lang sabihin na sila talaga ang nag-umpisa ng away :D


Ayos talaga Howard.

Unang una, wala ka naman dun nung nangyari yun kaya hindi ko alam kung eye witness account yang sinabi mo o base lang sa mga nabasa at narinig mo.* Sa ibang salita. Hearsay. Tsismis.* *;D

Pangalawa, di kami ang nagsimula ng away. Kami ang nagsimula ng jeering at heckling.* Iba yun sa away.* *;)



Walang away kung walang jeering ;D

dami kaya sa youtube ah.... tingin tayo ;D


So were you there in the venue howard?

I do notice you have something against San Beda. Are you insecure howard? Or are you just a coward?

Howard the Duck
09-10-2007, 09:47 AM
ayos talaga ang mga bedista dito.... ni di man lang sabihin na sila talaga ang nag-umpisa ng away :D


Ayos talaga Howard.

Unang una, wala ka naman dun nung nangyari yun kaya hindi ko alam kung eye witness account yang sinabi mo o base lang sa mga nabasa at narinig mo. Sa ibang salita. Hearsay. Tsismis. ;D

Pangalawa, di kami ang nagsimula ng away. Kami ang nagsimula ng jeering at heckling. Iba yun sa away. ;)



Walang away kung walang jeering ;D

dami kaya sa youtube ah.... tingin tayo ;D


So were you there in the venue howard?

I do notice you have something against San Beda. Are you insecure howard? Or are you just a coward?



Why should you resort ad hominem attacks? Ano bang ginawa ko sa iyo? ;D

LION
09-10-2007, 10:01 AM
^ Ad Hominem is not fallacious if the attack goes to the credibility of the argument.

The problem with you is that with your consistent manner of posting, it is obvious that you want to pull the tails of the lions here. Are you ready for their teeth, howard?

Howard the Duck
09-10-2007, 10:03 AM
^ Ad Hominem is not fallacious if the attack goes to the credibility of the argument.

The problem with you is that with your consistent manner of posting, it is obvious that you want to pull the tails of the lions here. Are you ready for their teeth, howard?

If calling me coward isn't ad hominem or even name calling, then I dunno what is. ;D

LION
09-10-2007, 10:14 AM
^ It was a question, howard.

trencher_k
09-10-2007, 10:18 AM
^ Ad Hominem is not fallacious if the attack goes to the credibility of the argument.*

The problem with you is that with your consistent manner of posting, it is obvious that you want to pull the tails of the lions here.* Are you ready for their teeth, howard?

If calling me coward isn't ad hominem or even name calling, then I dunno what is. ;D


Factual statements, or more appropriately: stating the obvious. :P

Howard the Duck
09-10-2007, 10:24 AM
^ It was a question, howard.

I bet that was the same question the Bedans asked the Letran coaching staff, eh? "Are you insecure? Are you a coward?" And when the Adamsonian went to the stands, what do they do? Hide behind old people? Raise their hands in submission? So who's insecure and a coward, now, LION?






^ Ad Hominem is not fallacious if the attack goes to the credibility of the argument.

The problem with you is that with your consistent manner of posting, it is obvious that you want to pull the tails of the lions here. Are you ready for their teeth, howard?

If calling me coward isn't ad hominem or even name calling, then I dunno what is. ;D


Factual statements, or more appropriately: stating the obvious. :P

Bedans, don't change the topic. You're sounding like Willie Revilliame already :D

My original post was: "ayos talaga ang mga bedista dito.... ni di man lang sabihin na sila talaga ang nag-umpisa ng away"

It's simple logic really, why did the Adamsonian went to the stands? Because of jeering, I guess. By whom? Of course, not by Letranites, they're at the other side of the coliseum, right? Mind you, it's not just simple ordinary jeering. A person in the name of Gabby Espinas will easily dismiss such "sweet nothings," but for a grown man like Mel Alas to go to the stands ang throw punches, man what kind of jeering was that? Saying "Are you insecure? Are you a coward, Letran coach? Why don't we mix it up?"

Then Bedans will come out holy and condemn Letranites as the one who started, the fight, the hooligans, the walang modos, etc. It's sickening.

I wasn't there. But it doesn't take a genius, or a fortune teller to know what happened.

Edit: I don't mean harm to all Bedans, it's just the actions of a few soil the image of a great institution and the values it instill among it's students, friends and alumni. If you are otherwise offended by this post, just think of it as I exercised my constitutionally-allowed freedom of speech, and I followed all of the prerequisites to make it as neutral and as peacefully as possible.

trencher_k
09-10-2007, 11:22 AM
We do not condone the actions of those who heckled the coaching staff of Letran, it may even be argued that they were also exercising their freedom of expression as you claim to be doing. However, the exercise of a right has the corresponding burden of responsibility. You should think about the consequences of these statements:

"ayos talaga ang mga bedista dito.... ni di man lang sabihin na sila talaga ang nag-umpisa ng away"

"Then Bedans will come out holy and condemn Letranites as the one who started, the fight, the hooligans, the walang modos, etc. It's sickening."

As mighty_lion and Stardust have said earlier in this thread, we have no quarrel with Letran. It is MANCOM that we have a problem with. By saying that there were no players involved in the incident, they are negating what happened to this old Bedan Alumni who was already in his mid-fifties when he was accosted by a much younger and well-built athlete. If he was one of the two idiots who heckled the CSJL coaching staff, ok lang sana but he was not. Collateral Damage lang.

Howard the Duck
09-10-2007, 11:47 AM
We do not condone the actions of those who heckled the coaching staff of Letran, it may even be argued that they were also exercising their freedom of expression as you claim to be doing. However, the exercise of a right has the corresponding burden of responsibility. You should think about the consequences of these statements:

"ayos talaga ang mga bedista dito.... ni di man lang sabihin na sila talaga ang nag-umpisa ng away"

"Then Bedans will come out holy and condemn Letranites as the one who started, the fight, the hooligans, the walang modos, etc. It's sickening."

As mighty_lion and Stardust have said earlier in this thread, we have no quarrel with Letran. It is MANCOM that we have a problem with. By saying that there were no players involved in the incident, they are negating what happened to this old Bedan Alumni who was already in his mid-fifties when he was accosted by a much younger and well-built athlete. If he was one of the two idiots who heckled the CSJL coaching staff, ok lang sana but he was not. Collateral Damage lang.



Well, at least we can agree that the NCAA MANCOM is a disgrace hahaha

Mang_Roger
09-10-2007, 11:48 AM
TO ALL BEDANS:

Can we all put a lid on this issue. Let's move on. For me, the best way to get back at the Einsteins (Mancom) and the rest of the NCAA is to win the crown this season. Besides, do we all want to get entangled into a senseless discussion with a person whose alternick sounds like QUACK?

Howard the Duck
09-10-2007, 11:49 AM
TO ALL BEDANS:

Can we all put a lid on this issue. Let's move on. For me, the best way to get back at the Einsteins (Mancom) and the rest of the NCAA is to win the crown this season. Besides, do we all want to get entangled into a senseless discussion with a person whose alternick sounds like QUACK?



Thank you for your name calling. My legend will grow even further. Hahaha

LION
09-10-2007, 12:00 PM
^ It was a question, howard.

I bet that was the same question the Bedans asked the Letran coaching staff, eh? "Are you insecure? Are you a coward?" And when the Adamsonian went to the stands, what do they do? Hide behind old people? Raise their hands in submission? So who's insecure and a coward, now, LION?




[quote=LION ]
^ Ad Hominem is not fallacious if the attack goes to the credibility of the argument.*

The problem with you is that with your consistent manner of posting, it is obvious that you want to pull the tails of the lions here.* Are you ready for their teeth, howard?

If calling me coward isn't ad hominem or even name calling, then I dunno what is. ;D


Factual statements, or more appropriately: stating the obvious.* :P

Bedans, don't change the topic. You're sounding like Willie Revilliame already :D

My original post was: "ayos* talaga ang mga bedista dito.... ni di man lang sabihin na sila talaga ang nag-umpisa ng away"

It's simple logic really, why did the Adamsonian went to the stands? Because of jeering, I guess. By whom? Of course, not by Letranites, they're at the other side of the coliseum, right? Mind you, it's not just simple ordinary jeering. A person in the name of Gabby Espinas will easily dismiss such "sweet nothings," but for a grown man like Mel Alas to go to the stands ang throw punches, man what kind of jeering was that? Saying "Are you insecure? Are you a coward, Letran coach? Why don't we mix it up?"

Then Bedans will come out holy and condemn Letranites as the one who started, the fight, the hooligans, the walang modos, etc. It's sickening.

I wasn't there. But it doesn't take a genius, or a fortune teller to know what happened.

Edit: I don't mean harm to all Bedans, it's just the actions of a few soil the image of a great institution and the values it instill among it's students, friends and alumni. If you are otherwise offended by this post, just think of it as I exercised my constitutionally-allowed freedom of speech, and I followed all of the prerequisites to make it as neutral and as peacefully as possible.



Spoken by one who was not there when it happened.

FYI, Mel Alas was not the subject of heckling and jeering. It was Louie Alas. And after the game, the whole coaching staff and the players ganged *up the Bedan. He was outnumbered and so he was forced to retreat. *The Bedan don't even know Mel Alas.

At any rate, it was already stated here that both sides were at fault and that we don't condone the actuations of that Bedan. What we were not happy about was the way the MANCOM handled the issue. *And this is pretty clear from posts if you did some back reading. *

It's no longer about who started it. *The pics posted above were about the way MANCOM handled it. *But what did you howard? What was your post about?

Sure you have the constitutional right to say what you say. But we do have the constitutional right to respond also, which is why we are having this skirmish.

You do have a knack for rubbing people the wrong way howard. *If you have something against jeering or heckling (which I do have too), then why do the same thing in cyberspace howard? *I bet you can't do that openly when you are not behind your computer.

You say: "I don't mean harm to all Bedans, it's just the actions of a few soil the image of a great institution and the values it instill among it's students, friends and alumni. If you are otherwise offended by this post, just think of it as I exercised my constitutionally-allowed freedom of speech, and I followed all of the prerequisites to make it as neutral and as peacefully as possible." *

Spare me the lip service howard. *Show it in your manner of posting. *

mighty_lion
09-10-2007, 12:25 PM
I agree with Mang_Rogers post. This is getting way out of topic. I also think sir LION has explained it very well. As far as I know, both Bedans and Letranites has closed on this issue already. Any Letranite die hards here can rebut me if I am wrong. Minsan lang talaga meron matagal maka-intindi or better yet ayaw umintindi.

Mods, I suggest we lock this thread.

trencher_k
09-10-2007, 12:30 PM
TO ALL BEDANS:

Can we all put a lid on this issue. Let's move on. For me, the best way to get back at the Einsteins (Mancom) and the rest of the NCAA is to win the crown this season. Besides, do we all want to get entangled into a senseless discussion with a person whose alternick sounds like QUACK?



Thank you for your name calling. My legend infamy will grow even further. Hahaha


;D

Howard the Duck
09-10-2007, 12:33 PM
^ It was a question, howard.

I bet that was the same question the Bedans asked the Letran coaching staff, eh? "Are you insecure? Are you a coward?" And when the Adamsonian went to the stands, what do they do? Hide behind old people? Raise their hands in submission? So who's insecure and a coward, now, LION?




[quote=LION ]
^ Ad Hominem is not fallacious if the attack goes to the credibility of the argument.

The problem with you is that with your consistent manner of posting, it is obvious that you want to pull the tails of the lions here. Are you ready for their teeth, howard?

If calling me coward isn't ad hominem or even name calling, then I dunno what is. ;D


Factual statements, or more appropriately: stating the obvious. :P

Bedans, don't change the topic. You're sounding like Willie Revilliame already :D

My original post was: "ayos talaga ang mga bedista dito.... ni di man lang sabihin na sila talaga ang nag-umpisa ng away"

It's simple logic really, why did the Adamsonian went to the stands? Because of jeering, I guess. By whom? Of course, not by Letranites, they're at the other side of the coliseum, right? Mind you, it's not just simple ordinary jeering. A person in the name of Gabby Espinas will easily dismiss such "sweet nothings," but for a grown man like Mel Alas to go to the stands ang throw punches, man what kind of jeering was that? Saying "Are you insecure? Are you a coward, Letran coach? Why don't we mix it up?"

Then Bedans will come out holy and condemn Letranites as the one who started, the fight, the hooligans, the walang modos, etc. It's sickening.

I wasn't there. But it doesn't take a genius, or a fortune teller to know what happened.

Edit: I don't mean harm to all Bedans, it's just the actions of a few soil the image of a great institution and the values it instill among it's students, friends and alumni. If you are otherwise offended by this post, just think of it as I exercised my constitutionally-allowed freedom of speech, and I followed all of the prerequisites to make it as neutral and as peacefully as possible.



Spoken by one who was not there when it happened.

FYI, Mel Alas was not the subject of heckling and jeering. It was Louie Alas. And after the game, the whole coaching staff and the players ganged up the Bedan. He was outnumbered and so he was forced to retreat. The Bedan don't even know Mel Alas.

At any rate, it was already stated here that both sides were at fault and that we don't condone the actuations of that Bedan. What we were not happy about was the way the MANCOM handled the issue. And this is pretty clear from posts if you did some back reading.

It's no longer about who started it. The pics posted above were about the way MANCOM handled it. But what did you howard? What was your post about?

Sure you have the constitutional right to say what you say. But we do have the constitutional right to respond also, which is why we are having this skirmish.

You do have a knack for rubbing people the wrong way howard. If you have something against jeering or heckling (which I do have too), then why do the same thing in cyberspace howard? I bet you can't do that openly when you are not behind your computer.

You say: "I don't mean harm to all Bedans, it's just the actions of a few soil the image of a great institution and the values it instill among it's students, friends and alumni. If you are otherwise offended by this post, just think of it as I exercised my constitutionally-allowed freedom of speech, and I followed all of the prerequisites to make it as neutral and as peacefully as possible."

Spare me the lip service howard. Show it in your manner of posting.


Alas, it is also a question of who started it, otherwise this thread wouldn't exist in the first place, right? It is funny that Bedans would divert the topic once someone asks who started the "fight". Why, I ask?

MANCOMM should've suspended the 2 Letran coaches, and perhaps the players who went into the stands for the rest of the season (read my previous posts). The Araneta bouncers didn't do their job, or maybe there's simply too many Bedans throwing C2 bottles at them to perform their duties effectively, but that's beside the point. The fact is a Bedan (or one who claims to be Bedan) started the whole ordeal.

The constitutional right to respond doesn't come with it with the right of name-calling, such as these:



TO ALL BEDANS:
Besides, do we all want to get entangled into a senseless discussion with a person whose alternick sounds like QUACK?


Baka naman "p_nis envy", ika nga ni Freud. Wink

and that doesn't include all of the Paul Supan and Ariel Vanguardia posts :D

Again, let me reiterate my post on the matter: "ayos talaga ang mga bedista dito.... ni di man lang sabihin na sila talaga ang nag-umpisa ng away"

I was not at the venue. But again, it doesn't take a genius to conclude the reason why Mel Alas et. al. went to the stands, right? What, they're toasting beer to the Bedans to celebrate their victory? They'll kiss and make up? Don't tell me I wasn't at the venue, since even those who aren't at the venue will conclude correctly that the Bedans started the fight after all.

As for jeering. Oh yes I jeer all my might. Too bad the only tickets I can acquire are those which are really far away so the players won't hear me. Don't worry, if time comes I get to sit at ringside, I'll even bring a megaphone. Did I just sound like Willie Revilliame? :D

LION
09-10-2007, 02:31 PM
Alas, it is also a question of who started it, otherwise this thread wouldn't exist in the first place, right? It is funny that Bedans would divert the topic once someone asks who started the "fight". Why, I ask?


On the contrary, this was discussed in the previous posts, right?




As for jeering. Oh yes I jeer all my might. Too bad the only tickets I can acquire are those which are really far away so the players won't hear me. Don't worry, if time comes I get to sit at ringside, I'll even bring a megaphone. Did I just sound like Willie Revilliame? :D

Ok, make sure you bring a megaphone especially when we meet in one of the off-season leagues.

trencher_k
09-10-2007, 03:04 PM
Before the thread is closed, some statements need to be addressed.



Alas, it is also a question of who started it, otherwise this thread wouldn't exist in the first place, right? It is funny that Bedans would divert the topic once someone asks who started the "fight". Why, I ask?


Along with the Letranistas, we've chosen to take the high ground and move on.* Just take a look at the Round Table of the Letran Knights Forum and see the responses of the posters there.* On the other hand, you have tried to taint whatever gains that we have made since that incident.

You said that you mean no harm by your statements.* Without statements like these, you could have fooled me:

"Then Bedans will come out holy and condemn Letranites as the one who started, the fight, the hooligans, the walang modos, etc. It's sickening."


As for jeering. Oh yes I jeer all my might. Too bad the only tickets I can acquire are those which are really far away so the players won't hear me. Don't worry, if time comes I get to sit at ringside, I'll even bring a megaphone. Did I just sound like Willie Revilliame? :D



Then you've admitted that you're not better off than those alumni hecklers that you blame for the incident.

danny
09-11-2007, 12:32 AM
Let's send these pictures to the Dominican friars in Letran. Nagtago daw nung* nagkagulo at hindi man lang sinamahan yung Benedictine Monk para pigilan ang coaching staff na lumusob sa kawawang fan. Ayos. :D

Wala pa din bang sanction ang mga players at coaching staff ng Letran?*

Kawawang ManCom. Hindi nila alam may nakakuha ng litrato. ;D


Pare, the thing is that Letran's board rep is our former schoolmate (not to mention kasama sa inuman) during our masters days at ASI.* I texted him a couple of times when the Aljamal issue came out but I didn't even get a reply from him.* Kung hindi nga nagkaayos sa ABS eh gusto ko sana lapitan si Rollie na kausapin siya para in turn kausapin din ako.


Pare, gusto mo si* Mina (a close friend of the late Pope John Paul II and a friend of San Beda) pa ang kausapin natin para pagsabihan iton kumag na to. Oo nga , ka-batch niyo nga pala sa ASI yung rep ng Letran.* Total Human Develpoment ni Fr. Senden and kailangna niya. Kung hindi , ilalabas ko yung litrato kung saan yan kasamang uminon ng tropa.

Pare, pakipadala naman sa kanya yung litrato nang mapagsabihan itong Coach ng Letran.

Mga Bedista, may direct link nga pala tayo sa rep ng Letran. Pwedeng kausapin yan sa isang inuman. *;)

danny
09-11-2007, 12:43 AM
I think we can ask the mods to close this thread already.