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gameface_one
06-20-2007, 07:35 AM
Henkel’s ace Fil-Am joins draft

The Philippine Star

Fil-Am guard Ryan Reyes is the first applicant for the 2007 PBA Rookie Draft set Aug. 19 at Market Market in Taguig.

The 6-foot-2 Reyes, a former high school teammate of NBA three-point champion Jason Kapono of the Miami Heat, made an impressive stint in the recently concluded PBL Unity Cup, leading Henkel Sista to a third-place finish behind eventual champion Harbour Centre and runner-up Cebuana Lhuillier.

Reyes, 23, led the Super Sealers in scoring with 11.4 points average, while shooting 33.3 percent from three-point range and 82 percent from the free throw line.

Accompanied by agent Charlie Dy, Reyes personally visited the PBA office Tuesday to submit his application and other pertinent papers.

“Handang-handa na,” said Reyes.

As the July 20 deadline for local born players – and June 29 for all Fil-Ams – nears, more aspirants are expected to follow suit.

Ken Bono, JC Intal, Ryan Arana, Marvin Cruz, JR Quinahan and Samigue Eman are other PBL stars expected to turn pro next PBA campaign.

Mikhail
06-20-2007, 02:24 PM
Paano ba ang draft order this year?

gameface_one
06-21-2007, 09:05 AM
Fil-Am joins PBA draft
mb.com.ph





Fil-Am guard Ryan Reyes became the first rookie to apply for the 2007 Philippine Basketball Association (PBA) Draft set Aug. 19 at the Market Market Place in Taguig.


The 6-foot-2 Reyes, a former high school teammate of NBA three-point champion Jason Kapono of the Miami Heat, is HenkelSista’s star playmaker in the Philippine Basketball League (PBL) where he helped the Super Sealers to a third place finish in the recent Unity Cup.

In his stint in the season-ending conference, the 23-year-old Reyes led the Super Sealers in scoring with 11.4 points average, while shooting 33.3 percent from three-point range and 82 percent from the free throw line.

Reyes, who played alongside Kapono at Artesian High in California, averaged 2.4 steals a game to pace the league, while being named Fantastic Freshman during the PBL’s conference awards.

Accompanied by his agent Charlie Dy, Reyes personally visited the PBA office to submit his application and other pertinent papers.

"Handang-handa na," said the Fil-Am in straight Filipino. Although raised in the US, Reyes’ parents are both Filipinos at the time he was born.

Prior to his PBL stint, Reyes also saw action in the National Basketball Conference (NBC) and played for the Cebuana Lhuillier sponsored national team in 2005.

mighty_lion
06-25-2007, 04:21 PM
Mukhang hindi gaano kalakasan ang draft class na ito compared last year na me williams, santos, isip, espinas, tenorio & bautista. Sino sino nga ba ang mga PBA draft candidates this year?

PG - Chico Lanete, Marvin Cruz, Macky Escalona, Jonas Villanueva, Khiel Misa, Alex Angeles
S/F - Jason Castro, Bonbon Custodio, JC Intal, Allan Evangelista, Jeff Chan, Ryan Reyes, Jofeson Gonzales
F/C - Ken Bono, Samigue Eman, Doug Kramer, Floyd Dedicatoria,

joelex
06-25-2007, 04:30 PM
ronjay buenafe...possibly devance and robbie reyes?

cub
06-25-2007, 09:08 PM
Mukhang hindi gaano kalakasan ang draft class na ito compared last year na me williams, santos, isip, espinas, tenorio & bautista. Sino sino nga ba ang mga PBA draft candidates this year?

PG - Chico Lanete, Marvin Cruz, Macky Escalona, Jonas Villanueva, Khiel Misa, Alex Angeles
S/F - Jason Castro, Bonbon Custodio, JC Intal, Allan Evangelista, Jeff Chan, Ryan Reyes, Jofeson Gonzales
F/C - Ken Bono, Samigue Eman, Doug Kramer, Floyd Dedicatoria,



Lanete applied for the last year's draft making him a free agent this year.

Sam Miguel
06-26-2007, 09:26 AM
Mukhang hindi gaano kalakasan ang draft class na ito compared last year na me williams, santos, isip, espinas, tenorio & bautista. Sino sino nga ba ang mga PBA draft candidates this year?

PG - Chico Lanete, Marvin Cruz, Macky Escalona, Jonas Villanueva, Khiel Misa, Alex Angeles
S/F - Jason Castro, Bonbon Custodio, JC Intal, Allan Evangelista, Jeff Chan, Ryan Reyes, Jofeson Gonzales
F/C - Ken Bono, Samigue Eman, Doug Kramer, Floyd Dedicatoria,



Does this mean the likes of JR Quinahan, Lawrence Bonus, Larry Rodriguez and Beau Belga aren't applying for the draft? What about the more hardcore players like Chito Jaime, Rommel Galvez, Leomer Losentes, Jeff De Guzman (of EAC), Orlan Daroya, Bong Melocoton? No other draft prospects from the province like Reed Juntilla?

freak
06-30-2007, 04:14 AM
Jojo Duncil has just recently threw his hat in the ring. ::)

Joescoundrel
07-03-2007, 06:16 PM
I wonder who is drafting first?

Without a clearcut franchise player in this group of draftees it'll be tough to make any one a consensus Number 1.

Ken Bono has the credentials to be the top overall pick - UAAP MVP, great showing statistically with Cebuana the last two PBL conferences - but is not a classic franchise player in the mold of say, an Asi Taulava or Kelly Williams.

Jayson Castro is another top prospect, a guy who put together great seasons with the NCAA and the PBL, but unless his surname is Caguioa or Helterbrand I doubt he'll go Number 1 overall as a guard.

JC Intal is another high profile player who could pull a Rich Alvarez and be a surprise Number 1 pick. But he does not have two UAAP MVP trophies and was unable to fully perfect his stardom with Ateneo. His PBL stats aren't exactly eye-popping either. But his overall package of size, length, skill and of course sheer athletic ability, in an otherwise not very remarkable draft class, just might make him the Number 1 pick. Ateneo players have had a knack for being surprise Number 1 picks, like Alex Araneta before Alvarez, so why not Intal?

joelex
07-05-2007, 11:34 PM
there's a chance that intal would pull an alvarez and be the number one pick.

but hopefully the similarities end there if he wants to have a successful career. at this point, rich has yet to materialize into a player deserving of that number one pick. unless he picks it up, fans will just see him as a flop.

Mikhail
07-06-2007, 12:23 AM
Diba Welcoat ang #1 pick? Di ba nila kukunin si Eman?

jollibeeaddict
07-06-2007, 12:29 AM
how about Marvin Cruz? anong pag-asa niya sa draft?

Semenelin
07-06-2007, 07:36 AM
IF gabe goes to the PBA, i think whoever is first pick, will get this guy. if that team keeps him or trades him away, i dont know, but he is still a good pick to get.

Wang-Bu
07-06-2007, 09:07 AM
Diba Welcoat ang #1 pick? Di ba nila kukunin si Eman?


Kung Number 1 man ang Welcoat dapat pagisipan nilang mabuti kung si Samigue Eman na nga ang kukunin nila. Sanay manalo ang Welcoat sa PBL at sa PBA ngayon sila'y tampulan ng talo. Baka ang mas iniisip nila ay kung papano mas makakakamada ng mga panalo. Kung si Eman ang kukunin nila maghihintay pa sila ng mga dalawang taon bago pa siya maging star, at dapat tutok na tutok sila sa development at coaching niya bago mangyari 'yon. Maari din namang i-draft nila si Eman pero i-trade nila kapalit ng isang steady na beterano na marunong ng maglaro ng matino. Kaya lang tila yata walang ganung player sa ngayon. May ilang big man na established na bagama't hindi na ganun katindi ang laro na maaaring pang-trade kay Eman gaya nina Eric Menk ng Ginebra, at Danny Ildefonso ng San Miguel, ewan ko lang kung bitiwan sila ng kani-kanilang mga koponan para lang sa isang napakahilaw na Eman.

Kung sa draft na sila kukuha mismo tila mas magandang pick si Ken Bono, kumpleto na ang laro at hindi kailangang nasa kanya ang bola parati para makakamada para sa koponan. May pukol pa si Bono kaya hindi na ganun kahirap para sa kanya na kumuha ng mismatch kontra sa ibang big man.

Wang-Bu
07-06-2007, 09:22 AM
there's a chance that intal would pull an alvarez and be the number one pick.

but hopefully the similarities end there if he wants to have a successful career. at this point, rich has yet to materialize into a player deserving of that number one pick. unless he picks it up, fans will just see him as a flop.


Todo-AGREE ako dito.

Alam naman na siguro ng lahat na naging Number 1 lang si Rich Alvarez gawa ng pagpi-PR ng isang Arben Santos, na siyang umahente para kay Alvarez upang makalaro siya sa ating bansa via Ateneo. At least hindi naman masasabing hindi nagpakitang gilas si Alvarez nung nasa UAAP pa siya: hindi naman matatawaran ang kanyang dalawang MVP trophy at isang championship. Ngunit nung draft nila nasabi kong siyento-porsyento na mas pang-PBA na ang angking galing at laro ng dating Haring Warrior ng UE na si James Yap, at hindi nga ako nagkamali dahil MVP na ng PBA si Yap. Sa banda naman nung Alvarez hanggang ngayon wala pa din ang career sa PBA: huwag na nating biruin ang mga sarili natin at pare-pareho naman tayong may alam sa larong basketball: Thank you Tito Arben din ang pagiging ROY ni Alvarez. Pang-ilang team na ba ni Alvarez ang Red Bull? Siguro naman hindi na masisisi ang team o ang coach o ang sistema at naka-tatlo ng lipat si Alvarez.

Sa kaso naman ni JC Intal, grabeng nakapanghihinayang ang angking galing ng batang ito. Kung titignan 'di hamak na mas mataas ang skill level niya at mas maganda ang mga dinaanan niyang coaches kaysa sa mga gaya nina Arwind Santos, Yap, Ken Bono at iba pang mga kasabayan niyang star sa UAAP. Pero tignan naman natin ang kanyang mga na-accomplish... Ay, wala pala siyang na-accomplish ano? Benchwarmer siya nung 2002 championship ng Ateneo. 5th year na siya nung tinagurian siya bilang isang ganap na star ng Ateneo dahil na rin wala na sina LA Tenorio, Larry Fonacier, Wesley Gonzales, Rich Alvarez at Enrico Villanueva. Never siya nag-MVP at hindi niya naikamit para sa Ateneo ang isang kampeonato.Totoo: kung sa natural na galing lang wala na nga sigurong katapat itong si Intal. Ngunit bakit tila sinilang siyang may kabog sa dibdib? May nakapagsabi sa akin na nung Game 3 nila laban sa UST nung Season 69 Finals hindi daw maipinta sa pagkaseryoso ang itsura ni Intal sa dugout, parang bitbit niya ang buong daigdig at may pagka-desperado. Ganyan ba ang kilos at asta ng isang tunay na superstar?

Sa draft na ito kung maging Number 1 man ang Intal ito ay dahil lamang walang totoong nangingibabaw ba Number 1. Ngunit kung ako lang naman ang tatanungin mas nararapat na si KEN BONO na ang taguriang consensus Number 1 para sa draft na ito.

Wang-Bu
07-06-2007, 09:30 AM
how about Marvin Cruz? anong pag-asa niya sa draft?


Usong-uso ngayon sa PBA ang scoring pointguard, kaya tancha ko maganda ang pagasa ni "Marvelous" Marvin Cruz na makuha sa unang limang pick pa lang. Ngunit ang tanong naman ay: Kaya niya kayang makipagsabayan sa iba pang mga scoring pointguards ng PBA gaya nina MVP Willie Miller, Mike Cortez, Jim Alapag, Jay Helterbrand, Paolo Mendoza, Brandon Cablay at Alex Cabagnot? Tandaan din natin na maliit si Cruz kung ihahalintulad sa mga nabanggit ko ng player, at malalaking damulag din ang mga makakabangga niya sa iba pang perimeter position gaya nina Mark Caguioa, Kenneth Duremdes, Sunday Salvacion, Junthy Valenzuela, John Arigo at Danny Seigle. Dapat mag-upgrade ng kanyang pagiging mas natural na pointguard si Cruz para maging epektibo siya sa PBA.

Dark Knight
07-06-2007, 10:10 AM
Welcoat openly admitted to get Bono as their no. 1 draft pick.

nash_bedista
07-06-2007, 11:01 AM
Sana mapunta si Marvin Cruz sa Sta. Lucia, Para UP connection sila ni Paolo Mendoza

joelex
07-06-2007, 11:24 PM
Welcoat openly admitted to get Bono as their no. 1 draft pick.


sta lucia also declared arwind as their choice days before thr draft, he was even thinking what number to use since kenneth duremdes is sporting the number 19. but they chose kelly instead.

Howard the Duck
07-07-2007, 12:30 AM
wala yatang draft picks ang PF ah

Mel
07-14-2007, 02:12 AM
Ano ba mauuna Tokushima o ang draft?

cub
07-14-2007, 10:53 PM
tokushima ata. july 28 kasi ang start nun. yung PBA draft naman, tuwing 2nd week ng August ginaganap.

Wang-Bu
07-19-2007, 10:35 AM
Wala pa bang draft order? Ano na ba pagkakasunod-sunod ng teams sa draft? Pinakaimportante sa lahat: sino ba unang pipili, Sta Lucia ba?

full battle gear
07-21-2007, 05:18 AM
Bono, Intal lead rookie hopefuls

By Musong R. Castillo
Inquirer
Last updated 04:36am (Mla time) 07/21/2007

MANILA, Philippines—Forty-seven players, including a handful who could turn out to be blue-chip stars, beat the registration deadline for applicants for the Philippine Basketball Association Rookie Draft set next month.

The pool is potentially deep that commissioner Noli Eala yesterday said that the proceedings could go past the usual practice of two rounds.

Former UAAP MVP Ken Bono, a burly big man with soft hands, 6-foot-9 Samigue Eman from Mindanao and Fil-American Joe de Vance lead a cast of frontliners that have declared themselves available for the Aug. 19 proceedings.

Ryan Araña, formerly of La Salle, former Ateneo ace Macky Escalona and ex-Santo Tomas gunslinger Jojo Duncil were the big names registered in the guard spot.

JC Intal, the high-flying, slam-dunking forward out of Ateneo, former college teammate Doug Kramer and JR Quiñahan, nicknamed “Baby Shaq” in the PBL, loom as the brightest forward prospects in the pool.

De Vance, though, was given a conditional acceptance by the PBA pending the release of his Department of Justice confirmation which will legitimize his claim to Filipino lineage.

De Vance, who played for Toyota in the PBL and was a member of the original pool of players coach Chot Reyes wanted for the RP Team two years ago, has been given until the end of the month to complete his citizenship requirements.

Welcoat, which finished last in both conferences this season, will pick first and coach Leo Austria is training his sights on Eman, who played for Henkel-Sista in the PBL.

“There are capable big men and a slew of exceptional wingmen and guards in the list,” Eala said. “That’s why we’re thinking of at least going three rounds.”

The Draft was limited to only two rounds in the last two years even if there was a total of 55 applicants led by eventual rookie of the year and RP Team candidate Kelly Williams of Sta. Lucia Realty.

“We’re also looking at other talents, but at this point, we want Eman,” Austria, a former Rookie of the Year himself, said.

Others who could also be picked high in the order are PBL standouts Araña, Ryan Reyes, a Fil-American guard, Duncil and Reed Juntilla, a 6-foot-2 find from Cebu.

An absentee in the list from among the qualified amateurs is Jason Castro, who opted to forego the Draft to play for the Philippines in the Southeast Asian Games in Thailand in December.

bluebruiser90
07-23-2007, 12:54 PM
Bono is a logical first pick as he will provide you with 8-10 good years of patrolling your lane. The boy is a center and knows it.

Marvin Cruz can very well be the first point guard taken in the draft. Macky Escalona can also go in the first round. Pure PG's are still hard to come by.

JC Intal will shine more in the pros where his individual skills will be highlighted.

full battle gear
07-23-2007, 01:12 PM
Eman, Bono eyed in PBA rookie draft

www.mb.com.ph


IT’S A major dilemma Welcoat Paints coach Leo Austria doesn’t mind facing.

With the Welcoat Dragons earning the right to select first in the coming Philippine Basketball Association (PBA) Rookie Draft, Austria holds the task of choosing the No. 1 overall pick in a 47-man field rich in talent and potential.

At least three rookie hopefuls are potential top pick, making the task difficult for Austria.

Initially, Welcoat was inclined on tapping 6-foot-10 center Samigue Eman, but with the PBA draft still about a month away, everything remains up in the air.

Welcoat co-owners Raymund Yu and Terry Que are keeping their cards close to their chests.

"We’re still looking for someone who we think is best suited for the team," said Yu.

"Maraming pagpipilian so dapat ma-evaluate ng husto," Que butted in.

Eman, who formed the other half of University of Mindanao’s 1-2 combo together with Peter June Simon early in 2000, played for Henkel-Sista in the Philippine Basketball League (PBL) the past two seasons.

One guy that Austria is taking a close look is UAAP Most Valuable Player (MVP) Ken Bono, a beefy forward with a decent three-point shooting who served as his star player during his coaching stint with the Adamson Falcons last year.

The 6-foot-5 Bono, the College Player of the Year in 2006, later on guided the Cebuana Lhuillier to a runner-up finish in the PBL Unity Cup a month ago.

Fil-Am big man Joe Devance and Ateneo Blue Eagles stalwart John Christopher Intal are among the marquee names in the list.

Intal, the reed-thin, slam-dunking forward, was a key player of the Harbour Centre team that swept Cebuana Lhuillier in the PBL Unity Cup Finals and also the main man of the Blue Eagles squad that lost to the University of Santo Tomas Tigers in the UAAP finals last year.

The application of Devance, however, remains conditional pending his submission of a confirmation from the Department of Justice until the end of the month.

The 6-foot-6 center was adjudged the 2006 PBL Unity Cup MVP after leading the Toyota Balintawak to a runner-up finish behind Harbour Centre.

A slew of big men are also making themselves available for this year’s draft, including University of the Visayas power forward JR Quinahan of Burger King, Doug Kramer of Ateneo and San Beda’s Yousif Aljamal.

Others in the mix include controversial UST guard Jojo Duncil, Fil-Am guard Ryan Reyes of Henkel Sista, Toyota Balintawak premiere playmaker Marvin Cruz, Dazz guard Reed Juntilla, Cebuana Lhuillier’s Macky Escalona, Ryan Araña of Harbour Centre, University of the East’s Rolly Masbang, Frederick Hubalde of UST, St. Benilde’s Rolly Menor and former Adamson Falcon Melvin Mamaclay.

irateluvmachine
07-25-2007, 01:53 PM
wala yatang draft picks ang PF ah


wala nga yata.* but it shouldn't matter much.* purefoods has historically not been a good place for a rookie to start his PBA career (with rare exceptions, i.e. the 1988 rookie class of alvin, jolas, etc., or james yap), as their coaching staff usually prefers veteran free agent signings in the off-season, or trading draft picks for proven veterans.* (classic example - trading then-PF draft pick chris jackson for the late jack tanuan in the 1996 draft.)

look at the purefoods draftees/rookie signings who made their name (or a bigger name) once leaving the hotdogs' fold, i.e. olsen racela, nelson asaytono and rodney santos.* tanuan himself was a purefoods benchwarmer in his first go-around with the hotdogs...then emerged when traded to swift.

full battle gear
07-26-2007, 05:35 AM
Welcoat eyes Intal as first draft pick

By Waylon Galvez
www.mb.com.ph


WELCOAT PAINTS, which owns the luxury of picking first in the PBA Rookie Draft next month, is likely to go for height and glamour.

Actually, the Dragons already have a short list. And this includes JC Intal, a 6-foot-4 wingman who, with his athleticism and scoring ability, can give the Dragons the kind of go-to-guy type of player they lacked during their maiden campaign last season.

Welcoat, which finished last in both conferences during the previous season, owns the top overall pick in the PBA Annual Rookie Draft scheduled Aug. 19 at the Market! Market! in Taguig.

Raymund Yu, who co-owns the team together with Terry Que, said that Intal has the quickness and leaping ability to compete in the PBA.

"We’re looking at four players, and Ital is one of them," said Yu yesterday when contacted by the Bulletin. "Definitely we’re going for height because that’s what we feel, a player who can complement Jay-Arr Reyes next season," said Yu, adding that he and Que will meet with the coaching staff led by Leo Austria next week.

Two of Intal’s former coaches expressed optimism that the 23-year-old player is ready for the PBA.

Norman Black, who coached Intal in his last two seasons with Ateneo, including the previous year when the Blue Eagles placed second behind the UST Tigers, said that he’s being athletic is already an advantage.

"He can use that of course, and he already paid his dues playing in the UAAP and the PBL. He’s definitely ready for the PBA," said Black.

Intal helped Harbour Centre win two titles – Silver Cup and unity Cup – in the PBL under coach George Gallent. "He only needs little adjustment from the PBL brand of play to the PBA, very minimal lang naman ang adjustment sa pro," said Gallent.

Black and Gallent, however, both agreed that Intal should be more aggressive on defense and must improve on his three-point shooting that would make him an even deadlier offensive player.

Intal said that it would be an honor if Welcoat picks him, but his concern now is to get ready for the Rookie Training Camp on Aug. 12 to 15 at the Moro Lorenzo Gym in Katipunan.

"Ginagawa ko na lang ngayon is nagpapa-kundisyon, ang nasa isip ko kasi is to perform well sa training camp," said Intal. "Dream team ko either San Miguel Beer and Ginebra because of their championships, but if Welcoat picks me, walang problema sa akin. Sobrang bless ako kung mag-No. 1 pick. If not, okay lang din," he added.

Intal, who idolizes Samboy Lim and Kenneth Duremdes, said that with the Dragons, he would be reunited with his former Letran teammate Reyes that powered the Squires to the 2000 NCAA junior’s division title.

"Nag-usap na nga kami ni Jay-Arr, and we’re excited of that possibility of playing together. Sabi nga namin magtulungan kami mapag-champion ang Welcoat," he said.

Aside from Intal, the team Welcoat is also considering Fil-Am Joe De Vance (6’6), former UAAP MVP Ken Bono (6’5) and Samigue Eman (6’10), who played for the Welcoat and Henkel-Sista during his last two conferences in the PBL.

Wang-Bu
07-26-2007, 06:23 PM
Kung ako Welcoat si Eman na lang kukunin ko. Kahit ano pa sabihin ng tao bihira ang pagkakataong makakuha ng 6'10" dito sa Pilipinas. May galaw naman si Eman, masipag, maganda na din ang katawan sangayon sa interview niya dito sa gameface.ph. Mainam ng may fulltime na malaking center ang Welcoat na pang-partner kay JR Reyes. Kung may 6'10" center ka at 6'8" na kayang mag-4 o 3 na PBA leader pa sa shotblocks angat ka na bigla. Kung may matira pang swingman sa second round kunin na din nila.

Nakakaintriga kung saan mapupunta si JR Quinahan. Sa huling tatlong conference ng PBL parating nasa Top 2 sa stats at power rankings ng player itong Quinahan. Kayang-kaya niyang sabayan ang sinuman sa PBL at pihado magagawa pa din niya 'yon sa PBA. Mas athletic pa siya kaysa sa medyo tabain na si Ken Bono. Si Quinahan kaya pang mag-dunk bukod sa magandang pukol at pagpasa.

Si Intal. Ah, hintayin na lang natin. Kasi wala naman siya masyadong pinakitang galing nung napunta na siya ulit sa PBL nitong huling dalawang conference. Baka even less ang ipakita niya sa PBA.

Mateen Cleaves
07-26-2007, 08:40 PM
IF gabe goes to the PBA, i think whoever is first pick, will get this guy. if that team keeps him or trades him away, i dont know, but he is still a good pick to get.


According to one PBA team manager I spoke to, IF Norwood goes into the draft, the reasoning would be that he would have played enough games for the national team to qualify under the league's residency rules. Remember that the PBA requires Fil-Fors to play a certain number of games in the Philippines first. IIRC, parang equivalent to around 2 PBL conferences din 'yon. Ewan ko lang kung ganun na karami ang nilaro ni Norwood... unless counted pati mga scrimmages and exhibition games.

irateluvmachine
07-27-2007, 04:01 AM
this looks to be quite an interesting draft...lots of quality players coming in, and no clear-cut favorite to be drafted first overall. sayang nga lang at di kasama si jason castro...si norwood kasali ba, o hindi pa?

gameface_one
08-02-2007, 09:50 AM
Tigers get fourth, ninth picks in PBA rookie draft


By Musong R. Castillo
Inquirer
Last updated 06:16am (Mla time) 08/02/2007


MANILA, Philippines -- Coca-Cola, despite losing the No. 2 pick in the coming PBA rookie draft, will still have two choices in the first round of the Aug. 19 draft, like Air21 and the newly crowned Fiesta Cup champion, Alaska.

The Tigers, who went through a management change last season, will pick fourth and ninth as part of a concession they obtained during the blockbuster Rudy Hatfield, Billy Mamaril and Rafi Reavis trade with two other teams.

That will make up somewhat from losing the second overall pick to San Miguel, the powerhouse squad which acquired the right to pick after Welcoat.

The Beermen, already loaded with talents that could form two All-Star squads, obtained that right in a three-team trade that involved Gary David and Dale Singson in 2005 with Air21 and Alaska.

Alaska, which won the Fiesta Cup in seven pulsating games against Talk ‘N Text, has the natural sixth pick and the next, which Red Bull gave up to acquire former Rookie of the Year Rich Alvarez from the Aces last year.

The Phone Pals, who will welcome back Nationals Jimmy Alapag, Ren-Ren Ritualo and Asi Taulava when the next season opens with “Super Sunday” on Sept. 23, don’t have a selection in the first round.

Air21 will have the fifth from Purefoods because of the Marc Pingris trade and the eighth from the Ritualo deal two years ago.

Joescoundrel
08-02-2007, 10:14 AM
That's that.

With San Miguel picking Number 2 JC Intal's wish will come true: he'll be back with Enrico Villanueva and LA Tenorio.

If Larry Fonacier finally and officially signs with the Beermen they might as well be called SAN MIG LIGHT for the next season so that they can legitimately carry BLUE as part of the official team colors.

AnthonyServinio
08-02-2007, 12:20 PM
That's that.

With San Miguel picking Number 2 JC Intal's wish will come true: he'll be back with Enrico Villanueva and LA Tenorio.

If Larry Fonacier finally and officially signs with the Beermen they might as well be called SAN MIG LIGHT for the next season so that they can legitimately carry BLUE as part of the official team colors.

* * *As a San Miguel fan, I don't want the team to be called San Mig Light at baka humina ang laro!* Dapat palitan nila yung pangalan nila ng Red Horse para malakas! :D

Wang-Bu
08-02-2007, 06:08 PM
That's that.

With San Miguel picking Number 2 JC Intal's wish will come true: he'll be back with Enrico Villanueva and LA Tenorio.

If Larry Fonacier finally and officially signs with the Beermen they might as well be called SAN MIG LIGHT for the next season so that they can legitimately carry BLUE as part of the official team colors.

* * *As a San Miguel fan, I don't want the team to be called San Mig Light at baka humina ang laro!* Dapat palitan nila yung pangalan nila ng Red Horse para malakas!* *:D


Sang-ayon din ako sa RED Horse, Sir Anthony. ;D

'Yun nga lang dapat siguro mag-rigodon trade na naman sila ng Ginebra at ng makuha nila si Rudy Hatfield na model ngayon ng Red Horse Extra Strong Beer!

Mikhail
08-02-2007, 06:15 PM
Pede ring Strong-Ice. Hehe. ;D

abcdef
08-02-2007, 09:22 PM
Pa post naman po ng draft order. Tnx alot.

kryptonite
08-05-2007, 05:06 AM
Tigers get fourth, ninth picks in PBA rookie draft


By Musong R. Castillo
Inquirer
Last updated 06:16am (Mla time) 08/02/2007


MANILA, Philippines -- Coca-Cola, despite losing the No. 2 pick in the coming PBA rookie draft, will still have two choices in the first round of the Aug. 19 draft, like Air21 and the newly crowned Fiesta Cup champion, Alaska.

The Tigers, who went through a management change last season, will pick fourth and ninth as part of a concession they obtained during the blockbuster Rudy Hatfield, Billy Mamaril and Rafi Reavis trade with two other teams.

That will make up somewhat from losing the second overall pick to San Miguel, the powerhouse squad which acquired the right to pick after Welcoat.

The Beermen, already loaded with talents that could form two All-Star squads, obtained that right in a three-team trade that involved Gary David and Dale Singson in 2005 with Air21 and Alaska.

Alaska, which won the Fiesta Cup in seven pulsating games against Talk ‘N Text, has the natural sixth pick and the next, which Red Bull gave up to acquire former Rookie of the Year Rich Alvarez from the Aces last year.

The Phone Pals, who will welcome back Nationals Jimmy Alapag, Ren-Ren Ritualo and Asi Taulava when the next season opens with “Super Sunday” on Sept. 23, don’t have a selection in the first round.

Air21 will have the fifth from Purefoods because of the Marc Pingris trade and the eighth from the Ritualo deal two years ago.



PBA Draft order (based on info given above)

1. WELCOAT
2. SAN MIGUEL BEER (FROM COKE)
3. STA. LUCIA ???
4. COKE (FROM PF)
5. AIR21
6. ALASKA
7. ALASKA (FROM RED BULL)
8. AIR 21 (FROM TNT)
9. COKE (FROM GINEBRA)
10. RED BULL (FROM SMB) ???

gameface_one
08-05-2007, 08:59 AM
Tough top pick call–Austria


By Musong R. Castillo
Inquirer
Last updated 06:24am (Mla time) 08/05/2007


MANILA, Philippines—For Welcoat coach Leo Austria, his No. 1 selection in the coming PBA Draft will depend on the kind of player his Dragons need most.

Austria will decide on Aug. 19 his top pick from among Samigue Eman, Ken Bono, JC Intal and Fil-American Joe DeVance and the former PBA Rookie of the Year has two weeks to determine what will make Welcoat click.

The next PBA season starts Sept. 23 with a “Super Sunday,” where all 10 teams will see action on opening day in the country’s three major islands. Four will play in Manila, two in Cebu and another two in General Santos.

“It’s still a tough call for us,” Austria told the Inquirer. “Right now, all four are worthy of being (the) No. 1 (pick) but what we really want to do is tap the player we really need.”

Austria noted that Jay-R Reyes is the only real “scoring machine” of his team and he admitted that he liked what he saw in former UAAP MVP Ken Bono, whom he coached when he led Adamson to the Final Four last year.

But tapping the baby-faced mammoth would mean negating much of Reyes’ abilities in the offensive end as Bono loves to have the ball in his hands often.

With Eman, Austria said that he will have a formidable force in the middle who can rebound, intimidate and block shots. But tapping him would leave the team, again, with only one prime offensive option in Reyes.

Intal could be the man, Austria said. The former Ateneo ace is one of the best scorers in the pool and Austria said they cannot be faulted if they tap Intal first overall.

But, picking Intal, a natural forward who can finish breaks with flair, would leave the 6-foot-5 Reyes all alone to again man the slot, hence, limiting Reyes’ options to contribute offensively.

De Vance is also a prime candidate, but Austria said they will not take a gamble on the Fil-American unless all of his papers are in order and if the team could get a commitment from the 6-foot-7 center that he would stay in the country.

Incidentally, Austria is also looking at the free agent market.

Austria said that San Miguel had offered a trade for Reyes, but Welcoat turned it down because the team wants to build its future on Reyes, the former University of the Philippines stalwart.

Welcoat will also pick 12th overall, or second in the second round behind Coca-Cola since rules state that the top two orders will be reversed in the second round.

Austria said that if available, he will select former UP point guard Marvin Cruz.

Alaska, Coca-Cola and Air21 each have two picks in the first round owing to several trades in the last two years. Sta. Lucia, hobbled by an aging frontline, owns the third overall choice.

kryptonite
08-09-2007, 09:39 PM
PBA Draft 2007

1. WELCOAT
2. SAN MIGUEL BEER (FROM COKE)
3. STA. LUCIA
4. COKE (FROM PF)
5. AIR21
6. ALASKA
7. ALASKA (FROM RED BULL)
8. AIR 21 (FROM TNT)
9. COKE (FROM GINEBRA)
10. RED BULL (FROM SMB)

11. COKE
12. WELCOAT

gameface_one
08-13-2007, 08:33 AM
No ‘Jordan’ draft day mistake, says Siot


By Musong R. Castillo
Inquirer
Last updated 06:47am (Mla time) 08/13/2007


MANILA, Philippines -- History is there so that others may learn from it.

At least that’s how San Miguel coach Siot Tanquingcen sounded Sunday, when he was asked on whom the Beermen will make as the No. 2 pick in the PBA Draft scheduled Sunday afternoon.

“As of now, I’m still trying to find out whether to pick the best talent available (in the pool) or pick the man which the team really needs,” Tanquingcen told the Philippine Daily Inquirer over the phone Sunday.

Tanquingcen, who took over the San Miguel squad after it opened with three straight losses in the recent Fiesta Cup, is being reminded of the most crucial blunder in National Basketball Association Draft history that happened in 1984.

That was the year when the Portland Trailblazers missed building a dynasty for their own when they passed up on a reed-thin off-guard from North Carolina named Michael Jordan to tap Sam Bowie as the No. 2 choice overall.

Best talent

Jordan was the best talent left in the pool after Houston, which owned the top pick then, used the right to sign up a lanky Nigerian named Hakeem Olajuwon, who would later on lead the Rockets to two straight titles in the mid-1990s.

But the Blazers already had a similar player in Clyde “The Glide” Drexler that year and opted to draft Bowie, a 6-foot-10 bruiser whom Portland saw was the one it “needed” at that time.

“We (coaching staff and management) will go over this carefully,” Tanquingcen, who owns two championships while with Barangay Ginebra, said. “We don’t want to make the same mistake (that Portland did).

“We would want to make the selection which we will not regret.”

The pool seems so deep that even Welcoat, which owns the No. 1 choice, also yet to make up its mind.

“It’s still open at this point,” Welcoat coach Leo Austria, in a separate interview over the phone, said. “But we are leaning towards picking a big man, either (Samigue) Eman or Joe Devance.”

Austria is looking for a player who can take the Dragons out of the doldrums.

gameface_one
08-14-2007, 09:30 AM
47 aspirants join PBA rookie camp
mb.com.ph





COACHES OF the 10 Philippine Basketball Association teams get a chance to figure out what’s in store in the Draft market as the 47 aspirants showcase their wares and skills in a three-day PBA Rookie Camp which starts today at the Moro Lorenzo Gym.


This year’s batch, led by prospective No.1 pick Samigue Eman, have been spread out into four teams that will play out a total of three games from.

A hectic schedule of activities awaits rookies on the first day of the camp supported by Accel. Registration opens at 8:30 a.m.

Applicants who fail to attend today’s activities will be delisted from the final list of the draft.

Today, aspirants will undergo height, weight and wing span measurements before going through the regular drills, strength, agility and endurance tests.

Two games in the afternoon jumpstart the camp’s playing schedule. Red team takes on the Blue Team in the 1:30 p.m. opener followed by the 3 p.m. match pitting White against Yellow.

The Yellow squad boasts of amateur stalwarts Ken Bono, JC Intal and Marvin Cruz while the frontcourt tandem of the 6-foot-5 Yousif Aljamal and 6-foot-9 Eman spearhead the Blue squad.

Brawny Cebuano cager JR Quinahan and Fil-Am playmaker Ryan Reyes banner White’s campaign and the Red will have Doug Kramer, Jeff Chan and prospective No.2 pick Joe De Vance.

Tomorrow, at the Blue Eagle gym, Blue takes on White at 4 p.m. after which Red battles Yellow at 5:30.

On Thursdsay, the final playdate at the Blue Eagle gym will have Red clashing with White ( 4 p.m.) and Yellow meeting Blue (5:30 p.m. ).

The rest of the lineup had Ryan Arana, Joel Solis, Melvin Mamaclay, Joferson Gonzales, John Bombeo, Edilgusto Soriano, Khiel Misa, Chico Manabat and Chris Baluyot suiting up for the Red team are Macky Escalona, Jojo Duncil, Jonas Villanueva, Ronnie Zagala, Francis Barcellano, Elbert Alberto, Jose Aquino, Alex Angeles, Godofredo Cuevas and Junjun Molina completing the Blue squad.

Others in the Yellow team are Reed Juntilla, Frederick Hubalde, Ramil Tagupa,Wynsjohn Te, Mark Legarde, Gilbert Neo, James Zablan, Roberto Rivera and Kenneth Co Yu Kang while comprising the rest of the White unit are Rolly Masbang, Rolly Menor, Ardy Larong, Tristan Veranga, Ronjay Buenafe, Daryl Pepito, Donald Tadena, Dominador Javier and Mark Moreno.

The PBA Rookie Draft is set on Sunday at the Market Market Place in Taguig, with the Welcoat Dragons owning the No. 1 overall pick.

irateluvmachine
08-14-2007, 10:04 AM
what's the true score...sabi sa pex wala na si devance sa draft pool dahil daw sa papers niya, but then again, the news came from pex...where bashing runs wild and free...

lots of long-forgotten names from UAAP and NCAA seasons past...led by melvin mamaclay whom i haven't heard of in ages...chico manabat and gilbert neo from NU...mark legarde, who used to come off the bench for leo najorda...wonder if there'll be a sleeper among these "comebacking" players...

JonarSabilano
08-14-2007, 10:23 AM
what's the true score...sabi sa pex wala na si devance sa draft pool dahil daw sa papers niya, but then again, the news came from pex...where bashing runs wild and free...

lots of long-forgotten names from UAAP and NCAA seasons past...led by melvin mamaclay whom i haven't heard of in ages...chico manabat and gilbert neo from NU...mark legarde, who used to come off the bench for leo najorda...wonder if there'll be a sleeper among these "comebacking" players...


Sabi nga ni KuyaDanny sa BEN kahapon:

Moral of the story - if you heard it from PEx, you didn't hear it at all.

MVBA
08-14-2007, 10:41 PM
GOOD LUCK TO THE FOLLOWING ALUMNI OF THE
MINDANAO VISAYAS BASKETBALL ASSOCIATION
AS THEY APPLY FOR THE 2007 PBA ROOKIE DRAFT:

Mark Legarde (Montaña Pawnshop-Davao)
Rolly Menor (MP Warriors-GenSan)
Joseph Ronald Quiñahan (Cebu Landmaster, Arthro Kontra Arthritis)
Joel Solis (Cebu Landmaster)
Donald Tadena (MP Warriors-GenSan)
Ramil Rey Tagupa (Holcim Pryce Pharma-MisOr)

The league is proud to have played a role in helping you and hundreds of players from the Visayas and Mindanao realize their dreams.* We will not stop there as we hope to have more MVBA alumni in the 2008 PBA Draft and beyond.

pachador
08-15-2007, 12:12 AM
Malaya newspaper

Eman, Intal shine in PBA Rookie Camp

POTENTIAL top draft picks Samigue Eman and JC Intal were among those who showcased excellent skills during the strength, agility and endurance tests that ushered in the three-day PBA Rookie Camp yesterday at the Moro Lorenzo Sports Center.

Edilgusto Soriano, Alex Angeles, Donald Tadena, Daryl Pepito, Macky Escalano and Dom Javier also impressed scouts and coaches who were present, proving they have what it takes to join the pro bandwagon.

Eman, a prized recruit by Rain or Shine from the University of Mindanao, was measured tallest among all 47 applicants at 6-foot-8 while Ken Bono, a former UAAP MVP, was the heaviest at 104 kilograms. Eman also has the longest wingspan at 86.5 inches.

Soriano, a San Beda product, emerged as the best in bench press and push ups, doing 37 and 75 repetitions in separate tests, while Angeles, another Red Lion, was No. 1 in pull-ups with 23.

In the agility drill, Intal and Tadena of Rizal Technological U shared top honors with 4.72 seconds.

Intal, at 6-foot-3, emerge as the best leaper, doing 10’11 in the vertical jump and 11’3 in the long jump. Eman did 11’3 in the vertical jump and 11’3 in the long jump.

Pepito outsprinted everybody in the 60-m dash with a clocking of 7.31 seconds while Escalano and Javier tied for No. 1 in sit-ups with 66 each.

Apart from the strength, agility and endurance tests, this year’s PBA aspirants, who have been divided into four groups, will also play three games each in the three-day Accel-sponsored rookie camp that should provide coaches a glimpse of what’s in store in the Draft market.

freak
08-15-2007, 03:25 AM
Malaya newspaper

Intal, at 6-foot-3, emerge as the best leaper, doing 10’11 in the vertical jump and 11’3 in the long jump. Eman did 11’3 in the vertical jump and 11’3 in the long jump.


im guessing these numbers are typographical errors.. ::) kung hindi.. aba, isali na sa nba yan si Eman! ;D

hannah17
08-15-2007, 11:18 AM
Edilgusto Soriano, Alex Angeles, Donald Tadena, Daryl Pepito, Macky Escalano and Dom Javier also impressed scouts and coaches who were present, proving they have what it takes to join the pro bandwagon.



Di ba Macky Escalona not Macky Escalano??

gameface_one
08-15-2007, 12:31 PM
PBA Rookie Camp

Eman, Intal display good form
mb.com.ph


POTENTIAL TOP draft picks Samigue Eman and JC Intal were among those who showcased excellent skills during the strength, agility and endurance tests that ushered in the three-day PBA Rookie Camp yesterday at the Moro Lorenzo Sports Center.



Edilgusto Soriano, Alex Angeles, Donald Tadena, Daryl Pepito, Macky Escalona and Dom Javier also displayed impressive skills indicating their readiness to join the pro bandwagon.

Eman, a prized recruit by Rain or Shine team from the University of Mindanao, was measured tallest among the 47 applicants at 6-foot-8 while Ken Bono, a former UAAP MVP, was the heaviest at 104 kilograms. Eman also has the longest wingspan at 86.5 inches.

Soriano, a San Beda product, was the best in bench press and push ups, doing 37 and 75 repetitions in the separate tests while Angeles, another Red Lion, was No. 1 in pull ups with 23.

In the agility drill, Intal and Tadena of Rizal Technological U, shared top honors with 4.72 seconds.

Intal, at 6-foot-3, was also the best leaper, doing the vertical jump at 10’11 and the long jump at 11’3.

Eman did 11’3 in vertical jump and 11’3 in long jump.

Pepito outsprinted everybody in the 60-meter dash with a clocking of 7.31 seconds while Escalano and Javier tied for No. 1 in sit ups with 66 each.

Apart from the strength, agility and endurance tests, this year’s PBA aspirants, who are divided into four groups, are scheduled to play a total of three games in the three-day Accel-sponsored camp that should provide coaches a glimpse of what is in store in the Draft market.

The annual Rookie Draft will be held this Sunday at the Market, Market Place in Taguig City with the Welcoat Dragons expected to exercise their No.1 draft pick on Eman.

gameface_one
08-16-2007, 09:31 AM
DeVance looms as top PBA draft pick

The Philippine Star

Joe DeVance is expected to be one of the prized picks in the 2007 PBA Rookie Draft this Sunday after the Fil-Am player completed his eligibility papers within the extension period granted him by the league.

DeVance has been seeing action at the ongoing PBA Rookie Camp at the Moro Lorenzo Sports Center inside Ateneo with University of Texas at El Paso making 12 points and seven rebounds in a 52-63 loss by Red team to Blue squad in the opening game of the Accel-sponsored camp.

With his inclusion in the draft pool, the 6-foot-7 Toyota-Balintawak slotman now looms among the prospective top picks in the draft exercise slated Sunday at the Market! Market! in Taguig.

DeVance, born in Honolulu, Hawaii on March 12, 1982, is among the players Welcoat is considering to pick No. 1 overall.

Next to pick in the round after Welcoat is San Miguel Beer, then Sta. Lucia Realty, Coca-Cola, Air21, Alaska, again Alaska, Air21, San Miguel and Coca-Cola.

It’s Air21, Welcoat, Sta.Lucia, Air21, Purefoods, Alaska, Red Bull, Talk n Text, Red Bull and Ginebra in the second round.

Other leading aspirants in the 47-man pool are Ken Bono, Samigue Eman, JC Intal, Ryan Reyes, Doug Kramer and Yousif Aljamal.

DeVance applied for the draft last year but didn’t make it as he failed to complete the required documents.

He nearly missed the draft again this year with his papers coming out only last week. He was given an original deadline of July 31 to file his documents but he made an appeal approved by the board.

Meanwhile, Yancy de Ocampo re-signed with Talk 'N Text Monday for a two-year contract worth nearly P5 million.

Mike Holper was also to sign a two-year contract extension with Barangay Ginebra Wednesday. Nelson Beltran

gameface_one
08-16-2007, 09:39 AM
Guards impressive in PBA rookie camp
mb.com.ph




BACKCOURT PLAYERS Jojo Duncil, Jonas Villanueva, Dom Javier and Ardy Larong made an impression Tuesday, powering their teams to victory in the PBA Rookie Camp at the Moro Lorenzo Sports Center.


Duncil scored a game-high 16 points while Villanueva contributed 11 points and five assists to lead the Coke-Blue team to a 63-52 win over the Welcoat-Red squad.

Javier made 14 points, two rebounds, one assist and one steal while Larong came through with 12 points and six rebounds as Sta. Lucia-White team whipped Air 21-Yellow, 69-58.

With Macky Escalano ably directing plays and Samigue Eman and Yousif Aljamal imposing their presence in the paint, the Blue team opened a 20-9 spread after one quarter before taking a 35-20 lead at halftime.

Doug Kramer had a double-double game with 11 points and 10 rebounds while Fil-Am Joe DeVance added 12 points and seven rebounds to lead the Red team.

The White team made a searing breakaway in the third period and went on to win the game with Javier, Larong, RJ Masbang, Tristan Veranga and Ryan Reyes shining for the team.

They overcame Ken Bono’s 15-point and eight-rebound showing for the Yellow squad.

Backing up Bono were Frederick Hubalde with 12 points, Red Juntilla with nine. Former UAAP star JC Intal was good for only two points.

Javier and Larong presided over White’s breakaway from a 28-26 edge at halftime.

The three-day Rookie Camp, sponsored by Accel and Viva Mineral Water, concludes today.

The PBA Draft is set Sunday at the Market! Market! in Taguig.

kryptonite
08-16-2007, 11:30 AM
PBA Draft 2007

1. WELCOAT
2. SAN MIGUEL BEER (FROM COKE)
3. STA. LUCIA
4. COKE (FROM PF)
5. AIR21
6. ALASKA
7. ALASKA (FROM RED BULL)
8. AIR 21 (FROM TNT)
9. SAN MIGUEL
10. COKE (FROM GINEBRA)

11. AIR 21
12. WELCOAT
13. STA. LUCIA
14. AIR 21
15. PUREFOODS
16. ALASKA
17. RED BULL
18.TNT
19. RED BULL
20. GINEBRA

Wang-Bu
08-16-2007, 02:36 PM
1. WELCOAT = Samigue Eman or Ken Bono, kailangan nila ng fulltime at legit na sentro
2. SAN MIGUEL BEER (FROM COKE) = JC Intal, Ateneo reunion na ito
3. STA. LUCIA = Kung sino man ang hindi kukunin ng Welcoat
4. COKE (FROM PF) = Joe Devance at isa pa silang nangangailangan ng fulltime legit na sentro
5. AIR21 = JR Quinahan, mahilig rin lang sa mga purong homegrown at kailangan nila ng isa pang big man
6. ALASKA = Doug Kramer, may nakapagsabi sa aking sure pick na ito
7. ALASKA (FROM RED BULL) = Jojo Duncil or Marvin Cruz, tumatanda na si Willy Miller, kailangan na ng kapalit
8. AIR 21 (FROM TNT) = Ryan Reyes, extra guard at both spots
9. SAN MIGUEL = Macky Escalona, yaman rin lang Atenista, ewan ko lang kung magkasundo sila ni Tenorio
10. COKE (FROM GINEBRA) = Yousif Al Jamal, basta lang

11. AIR 21
12. WELCOAT
13. STA. LUCIA
14. AIR 21
15. PUREFOODS
16. ALASKA
17. RED BULL
18.TNT
19. RED BULL
20. GINEBRA

Mateen Cleaves
08-16-2007, 02:46 PM
Malaya newspaper

Intal, at 6-foot-3, emerge as the best leaper, doing 10’11 in the vertical jump and 11’3 in the long jump. Eman did 11’3 in the vertical jump and 11’3 in the long jump.


im guessing these numbers are typographical errors.. ::) kung hindi.. aba, isali na sa nba yan si Eman! ;D


No, they're not. Inaccurate lang ang pag-label ng PBA sa test. The "vertical jump" measures how high the player can reach from a standing jump. That means JC Intal can reach almost a foot above the rim from standing start (walang bwelo). Yung long jump is, I think, also based on a standing start.

toti_mendiola
08-16-2007, 02:47 PM
I read in the news today that Sta. Lucia's draft choice will come as a surprise daw. ano kaya ang ibig nilang sabihin?

JonarSabilano
08-16-2007, 02:56 PM
Malaya newspaper

Intal, at 6-foot-3, emerge as the best leaper, doing 10’11 in the vertical jump and 11’3 in the long jump. Eman did 11’3 in the vertical jump and 11’3 in the long jump.


im guessing these numbers are typographical errors..* ::) kung hindi.. aba, isali na sa nba yan si Eman!* ;D


No, they're not. Inaccurate lang ang pag-label ng PBA sa test. The "vertical jump" measures how high the player can reach from a standing jump. That means JC Intal can reach almost a foot above the rim from standing start (walang bwelo). Yung long jump is, I think, also based on a standing start.


And I guess in this case, wingspan is also a factor. Remember that Samigue Eman's wingspan is measured at 80++ inches, which is around 40 inches per arm. Him reaching 11'3 doesn't necessary mean he can jump high. It would be better if the PBA measures the reach first then subtracts it from the results of the so-called "vertical leap test". It will provide a better indication of the player's leaping ability.

oca
08-16-2007, 03:06 PM
I hardly participate in any discussion about the PBA. But I just can't get the point of all these "exercise".

Lintek, alam ko si Chito Loyzaga ay wala pang isang dangkal ang talon. Yung kapatid na si Joey ay ga-palito nga lang ng posporo ang talon.

Si Ramon Fernandez ay di makaka bench press ng katumbas ng kalahati ng sarili niyang timbang.

Si Caidic di maabot ang rim kung di kukuha ng bwelo.

Si Calma ay di kakayaning takbuhin ang kahabaan ng court na kasing bilis ni Martirez o Webb.

Pero kahit ngayon na bubuo ka ng team, di ka magdadalawang isip na kunin ang mga iyan kung pwede* ;).

Sa akin, dapat lang siguruhin na walang tinatago o history ng injury o illness ang player. Sabagay, itong moro-morong ito ay pakana ng PBA as a build-up para a araw ng draft. Press release, ika nga.

O sige, inyo na ang pinaka...mabilis at malakas.

Akin yung magaling at mautak. (Hindi pa pinaka... magaling at mautak ang kukunin ko, ha!)

cub
08-16-2007, 06:56 PM
2. SAN MIGUEL BEER (FROM COKE) = JC Intal, Ateneo reunion na ito



hindi daw kukunin ng SMB si Intal dahil 6months daw mawawala si Dorian Peña because of an injury. now, SMB will draft a big guy. pinapipilian kung si Bono o si Devance.

mighty_lion
08-16-2007, 08:11 PM
post deleted mali pala :P

irateluvmachine
08-17-2007, 04:08 AM
my PBA mock draft for 2007...

1. WELCOAT = Samigue Eman (IMHO still a project, but almost everyone loves his upside)
2. SAN MIGUEL BEER (FROM COKE) = JC Intal (E-vil can fill in for Dorian Pena in the middle...i also expect an atenean reunion here)
3. STA. LUCIA = Ken Bono (an instant upgrade over the two aging, soft big men the realtors have masquerading as former #1 picks)
4. COKE (FROM PF) = Joe Devance (because ali peek isn't getting much younger, and they need a center)
5. AIR21 = JR Quinahan (enough with the athletic wingmen - i.e. arwind, kg - already! the express needs a center who can contribute on both ends)
6. ALASKA = Doug Kramer (nic belasco's subpar 2nd conference says it all...alaska needs another big man)
7. ALASKA (FROM RED BULL) = Ryan Reyes (alaska also needs a backup PG and overall backcourt depth...and alaska, historically...loves fil-ams)
8. AIR 21 (FROM TNT) = Marvin Cruz (they need to dump the over-the-hill torion and build someone up as wynne arboleda's eventual replacement)
9. SAN MIGUEL = Jojo Duncil (backcourt depth, can replace kiko adriano as 11th or 12th man, but can he play PG in a pinch?)
10. COKE (FROM GINEBRA) = Yousif Aljamal (instant upgrade over ricky calimag as backup PF)

pass ako sa second round...but as a lifelong purefoods fan, i'd say they get the Best Player Available, regardless of what position...baka makasingit sa lineup.* heard they signed chico lanete and al magpayo as rookie free agents, so any quality player they pick up at #15 will be a bonus in a vet-oriented system...

Semenelin
08-17-2007, 08:48 AM
1st pick devance, then they are trying to finalize the deal to get the fourth pic for cabatu, lao, and next years pick. if that happens, welcoat will get whoever big guy is left; eman, bono, quinahan. If SMB passes intal, then they could pick the rocket as well. i think welcoat is looking for a PG for the 2nd round pick.

gameface_one
08-17-2007, 09:18 AM
Welcoat leaning towards Fil-Am as top pick



By WAYLON GALVEZ
mb.com.ph



IF HIS performance in the three-day rookie camp will be the gauge, Fil-American Joe Calvin Devance is likely to be this year’s PBA No. 1 pick.


Welcoat Paints, which owns the right to select first during the Rookie Draft on Sunday at the Market! Market! in Taguig, had earlier committed to pick Samigue Eman. But after watching Devance does his thing during the camp, the team’s coaching staff reportedly met to reassess the situation.

With two days left before the big day, the Welcoat camp remains non-commital. And adding to their state of confusion is the emergence of JC Intal as another possible top choice.

"Our No. 1 pick will surely come from this list, these three players," said Raymund Yu, co-owner of the team with Terry Que.

"Until now, we’re studying our options, possibly will decide on Draft Day" Yu said.

Some sources close to decision-makers within the Welcoat team indicated that the owners and the coaching staff are leaning towards Devance, a 6-foot-7, the stalwart of the Toyota Balintawak team in the Philippine Basketball League.

They like Devance, sources said, because of his athleticism, quickness and shooting, qualities which Eman possess but not in abundant quantity.

One thing going for Eman, however, is his height. At 6'8, he could be a towering presence in three to five years.

Toyota Otis coach Louie Alas, believes Devance deserves to be the No. 1 pick.

"Not to take anything from Intal, Eman and the rest of the aspirants, Joe is very coachable. Ibibigay nya lahat kung ano ang gusto mong gawin niya," said Alas. "He has a good shooting touch."

Even Que appears inclined to go for Devance, saying: "They are all good but I heard from our coaching staff and other coaches that Devance did well during the Rookie Camp."

"But it’s up to the coaching staff, we’ll support them whoever they will pick," said Que.

Both Devance and Eman expressed excitement for being the No. 1 prospects.

"I feel good, I’m excited. I can’t wait," said Devance, who played for University of Texas in El Paso. "Whatever pick, it doesn’t matter. One, two or three, it doesn’t matter. But being No.1 is a good accomplishment. Although my concern is to have an impact to the team which will pick me," he added.

Devance joined the PBL two years ago where he went on to win the MVP plum. After his application to turn pro was turned down last year, he returned to the US and came back early this year to play again for Toyota Balintawak.

He did not do well in his comeback mainly because he was out of form.

"Pero ngayon nasa kundisyon na siya," said Alas.

Eman has a different view on being the No.1 pick. "Siyempre medyo mataas ang expectation if you’re the top pick," said Eman. "But what’s important is to improve myself para makatulong sa team."

Either way, Devance and Eman can ease some load off Welcoat’s 6-foot-7 center Jay-Arr Reyes at both ends.

Picking after Welcoat is San Miguel (2), followed by Sta. Lucia Realty (3), Coca-Cola (4), Air21 (5), Alaska (6 and 7), then another picks from Air21 (8), San Miguel (9) and Coca-Cola (10), which has the option to use it in 2008.

irateluvmachine
08-17-2007, 02:16 PM
44 na lang daw yung entrants sa draft...3 players out, two relative unknowns having missed the rookie camp, and jeff chan having withdrawn his name from the pool. which may be just as well, as chan has 1st-round potential but not in a deep draft like this one...

gameface_one
08-18-2007, 09:22 AM
Welcoat torn between Devance, Eman

By NELSON BELTRAN
The Philippine Star

Welcoat’s choice as No. 1 pick overall in the 2007 PBA Rookie Draft Sunday is down to two behemoths in Joe Devance and Samigue Eman.

The team coaching staff and management struck out from the list forward JC Intal, another big man in Ken Bono and guard Ryan Reyes after thoroughly scouting the five players in the three-day PBA Rookie Camp which concluded Thursday afternoon at the Moro Lorenzo Sports Center.

Welcoat co-team owner Raymund Yu said the coaching staff, headed by Leo Austria, is to make their final recommendation Saturday night, and they may make the final decision right on draft day at the Market! Market! Mall in Taguig.

“It’s a tough decision. Hopefully, we make one which would really help us in our bid to make improvement this coming season,” said Yu.

Devance, a University of Texas at El Paso alumnus, averaged 10.3 points, 9.6 rebounds, 1.3 assists and two blocks a game while Eman, a University of Mindanao product, normed seven points, 6.3 rebounds and two blocks per outing in the Accel-sponsored Rookie Camp.

Intal, the former Ateneo star who made good impression in the camp in the last day, has been relegated as Welcoat’s third choice. Yu is hopeful they can still pick a quality player at No. 2 in the second round or No. 12 overall.

“We intend to improve but we’ll wait for the result of the draft before working on a complete makeup of the team,” said Yu.

“We’re open to trading our pick next year even if the draft roster next year may include Gabe Norwood because we want out of the cellar right this coming season,” Yu added.

Among the Dragons whose contract has expired are Rob Wainwright, EJ Feihl, Jay Sagad and Gilbert LaO.

Aside from Devance and Eman, other players who turned in good numbers in the rookie camp were Ryan Arana, JR Quinahan, Doug Kramer, Yousif Aljamal, Bono, Ardy Larong and Ron Buenafe.

Arana led everybody in scoring with an average of 12 points a game, followed by Quinahan (10.6), Devance (10.3), Kramer (9.5), Aljamal (9.3) and Bono (9.3).

lionbanker
08-18-2007, 01:32 PM
Samigue Eman, needs to improve his basketball knowledge, he has the height and body to play defense against the big men in the PBA pero offense wise walang pinakita eto sa PBL, the last time na nakita kong gumawa ng over 10 points was during their playoff against Harbour Center, e tambak pa sila nun, mahirap din magantay ng 2 to 3 years for him to imrove coz by that time may mga bago ng dadating.

Schortsanitis
08-18-2007, 07:34 PM
* Sam Eman at the PBA Rookie Camp reminds me of Bonel Balingit, who eventually became a Mythical Team-caliber Center in the PBA, even if only for a short while. He has almost the same height & heft, & with the willingness & enough coordination to use his size against other players. But the problem is, he is still a big "maybe". Maybe he will develop into another Balingit. But then again, maybe not. If he does, well & good. But what if he doesn't? Then the team would've ended up wasting it's no. 1 pick overall.

* And that might be too much of a gamble for a no. 1 pick. If you are looking at the situation NOW, big men like Bono, Quinahan & Devance have a much more developed game than what Sam has now. Even if they don't have Sam's upside, or develop into an even better player later, they still have the quality of game they have now to fall back on to.

* And because of that, the "safe" thing to do for the careers of the Coaches out there, would be to pick a sure ball w/ the early draft rather than make a gamble. Unless a higher power within the team, like the team owners, for example, tells them otherwise.

* The team that will likely pick Sam, is a team that:
- Already has a strong frontline, & can thus afford to take risks w/ a project big man;
- Could not find a satisfactory player to fill the other "weak" positions in the draft (i.e., the other choices in the draft for the positions they need filling up with are also projects).

* As for Joe Devance, what makes Joe such a promising player in the draft, is that he has great ballhandling ability & quickness for a player his height & heft (by Philippine standards, anyway). He doesn't seem to be much of a leaper like Kelly Williams, though, based on the limited videos I've seen him play.

Semenelin
08-19-2007, 12:12 AM
1st pick devance, then they are trying to finalize the deal to get the fourth pic for cabatu, lao, and next years pick. if that happens, welcoat will get whoever big guy is left; eman, bono, quinahan. If SMB passes intal, then they could pick the rocket as well. i think welcoat is looking for a PG for the 2nd round pick.
hindi natuloy yun trade, sayang daw si norwood. haha

gameface_one
08-19-2007, 07:53 AM
Welcoat undecided on Eman, Devance

By NELSON BELTRAN
The Philippine Star

It will be Joe Devance if the Welcoat management wants results now or Samigue Eman if the team is looking at the future.

Welcoat coach Leo Austria will have these options in mind as they exercise the right for the No. 1 pick overall in the 2007 PBA Rookie Draft at the Market! Market! Mall in Taguig Sunday.

At press time, the Welcoat management and coaching staff had yet to make up their mind, as numerous tempting trade offers are also coming their way.

What could be certain is that Devance and Eman would be the first two picks with Sta. Lucia Realty likely to settle for former Ateneo do-it-all star JC Intal at No. 3 overall.

If Devance, Eman and Intal are already picked, Air21 coach Bo Perasol said they would opt for forward Doug Kramer and guard Ryan Reyes at Nos. 4 and 5. The Express have two other picks (Nos. 8 and 10) in the first round and they may use these on big men, particularly JR Quinahan if he’s still available then.

Air21 has dealt Mark Telan to Coca-Cola for draft picks and released Macmac Andaya to Red Bull with nothing in return.

Alaska Milk may draft Ken Bono and Macky Escalona at Nos. 6 and 7.

San Miguel, which is picking either Devance or Eman at No. 2, may settle for a backcourt man or a wingman at No. 9.

Marvin Cruz, Jojo Duncil, Jonas Villanueva, Yousif Aljamal, Ryan Arana, Reed Juntilla, Ronjay Buenafe and Khiel Misa are the other highly touted players hoping to join the pro bandwagon in the 2007-08 PBA season beginning Oct. 14.

Forty-four players have been declared eligible for the draft sponsored by Purefoods Tender Juicy and supported by Accel, Goldilocks and Viva Mineral Water.

Coca-Cola has the option to pick at No. 10 overall or yield the right to Air21. Barangay Ginebra and Purefoods have traded their draft rights while Red Bull and Talk n Text won’t be picking until the second round.

But Purefoods has boosted its lineup even before the draft is held as they signed up free agent Chico Lanete to a two-year pact worth P2.2 million.

Coaches said many things could happen on the draft floor as several teams are exploring trade deals for a chance to get Fil-Am versatile player Gabe Norwood in next year’s drafting.

Austria said they have standing trade offers from Alaska, San Miguel, Talk n Text and Air 21.

Incoming sophomore Jay-R Reyes, who made a good impression in his rookie year, is another hot commodity in the Welcoat team.

“One team is offering three players in exchange for Jay-R. But Jay-R is our franchise player. He holds the key in our future,” said Austria.

gameface_one
08-19-2007, 07:58 AM
Joe DeV a franchise-builder



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SPORTING CHANCE By JOAQUIN M. HENSON
Philstar.com



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Take it from Joe Devance’s agent Loy Allado. The 6-7 3/4 forward from the University of Texas at El Paso is the real thing.



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The Philippine Star

Take it from Joe Devance’s agent Loy Allado. The 6-7 3/4 forward from the University of Texas at El Paso is the real thing.

“You can build a franchise around him,” said Allado whose son Don plays for Talk ’N’ Text in the PBA.

Allado, however, isn’t involved in managing Devance anymore even as their three-year contract won’t expire until December.

“I heard (Dondon) Monteverde is his agent now,” said Allado. “That’s fine with me. I won’t hold on to a player who chooses to be managed by somebody else even if my contract is still valid. My only hope is I get paid back for what I spent for him when I was actively managing him. It’s not a big amount, only $3,000. I’m sure he can pay me back with his rookie contract. I don’t doubt Joe will be an impact player in the PBA.”

It was Allado who introduced Devance to Philippine basketball.

“A contact from El Paso got in touch and told me about Joe,” said Allado. “I checked him out. In high school, he played four and five. In college, he played three and four. He’s very versatile. He can post up, has a soft touch from the perimeter. He can play five in the PBA. His attitude is okay. He’ll have a great career in the PBA.”

Allado brought Devance from Texas to Los Angeles to attend a Fil-Am camp supervised by national coach Chot Reyes two years ago. Reyes was interested in enlisting Devance for the national pool.

Allado sent Devance to Manila but he never showed up for the Philippine team tryouts. Instead, he joined the PBL draft and saw action for Toyota. Devance tried to make the cut-off for the PBA draft last year but his Filipino citizenship didn’t come on time.

“Joe was frustrated that he didn’t get his papers,“ said Allado. “He asked me how come Kelly (Williams) got his dual citizenship and he didn’t when they applied at about the same time. That’s because Kelly brought his Filipina mother to personally vouch for him at the Bureau of Immigration. Joe’s Filipina mother could’ve come over because she underwent heart surgery. Joe even wondered if a video from the US would do. Maybe, that was why he went to another agent. I don’t blame him. I couldn’t really attend to his situation because of things I was tied up with in Los Angeles. But at least, I should be reimbursed for what I spent for him. I paid for his plane fare from Texas to L. A. to Manila and gave him some pocket money.”

Allado said he never got a centavo from Devance’s PBL contract. “I didn’t ask anything from Joe,” said Allado. “The PBL contract wasn’t big so I wanted him to take it all. I just wanted to give him a break.”

* * *

Allado is now negotiating a new contract for his son with Talk ’N’ Text. He is also Alaska guard Tony de la Cruz’ agent. Through the years, Allado has recruited imports for at least eight of the league’s 10 teams. He teamed up with the late Chique de la Rosa in bringing imports like former Chicago Bull Dickey Simpkins and Washington’s Mark Sanford to the PBA.

Devance’s mother Mae Sanz traces her roots to Toboso and Escalante in Negros Occidental. She migrated to the US in 1975 and gave birth to Devance in Hawaii where she lived for 11 years with her first husband, Joe Sr. She has resettled in El Paso with Devance’s step- father Ronald Bolden. Devance learned to play from Bolden when he was 14.

Like his namesake in Congress, Joe DeV is eager to play a leadership role in the PBA, regardless of what team he plays for. He’s tipped to be the No. 1 draft choice today. Welcoat owns the first pick. Theoretically, Welcoat could trade the pick to another team for a slew of top-notch players. The Dragons could use some warm bodies with the expiration of the contracts of Rob Wainwright, Jun-Jun Cabatu, Jay Sagad, E. J. Feihl and Gilbert Lao last Wednesday. But it’s likely Welcoat will exercise its right and choose Devance who’s a legitimate NCAA Division I product like Williams and the Seigle brothers.

By the way, there are 44 rookies available for the draft after Jeff Chan, Jun Molina and Godofredo Cuevas were scratched from the list.

* * *

The order of draft will be in the first round, Welcoat, San Miguel (from Coca-Cola in the Gary David-Dale Singon three-way trade with Air21), Sta. Lucia, Coca-Cola (from Air21), Air 21 (from Purefoods in the Marc Pingris-Egay Billiones trade), Alaska, Alaska (from Red Bull in the Rich Alvarez trade), Air21 (from Talk ’N’ Text in the RenRen Ritualo trade), San Miguel, Coca-Cola (from Ginebra in the Rudy Hatfield-Rafi Reavis-Billy Mamaril three-way trade).

Expected to go in the first round are Devance, Yousif Aljamal, J. C. Intal, Ryan Arana, Doug Kramer, Jojo Duncil, Ken Bono, J. R. Quinahan, Ryan Reyes and Samigue Eman. Others worth considering are Macky Escalona, Ronnie Zagala, R. J. Masbang and Marvin Cruz.

For the record, the 310-pound Bono was the slowest in the 60-meter sprints (9.38 seconds) and agility drill (5.66 seconds) at the recent rookie camp. Bono is the heaviest and Elbert Alberto and Donald Tadena the lightest at 154 pounds. Topping the vertical leaps were Eman (11 feet, five inches) and Intal (11 feet, three inches). Eman is the tallest (6-8) and Roberto Rivera the smallest (5-7).

Only two players were measured with wingspans of at least 80 inches – Eman (86 1/2) and Devance (82 3/4). Masbang posted the most sit-ups (80) and Zagala the least (40) while Alex Angeles registered the most pull-ups (23). New York-born Edilgusto Soriano of San Beda College compiled the most pushups (75) and bench presses (37).

Gilbert Neo of National University is the oldest rookie eligible at 28 while Cruz of the University of the Philippines is the youngest at 21.

gameface_one
08-19-2007, 08:03 AM
The other top choices
mb.com.ph





WITH WELCOAT Paints billed to use its first overall pick on Fil-American forward Joe Devance, the Bulletin is coming out with a forecast on who the other teams will pick in the first round.


While it’s highly possible for teams to make surprising deals, trades or moves on ‘Draft Day,’ this analysis is based on interviews with coaches and team officials on the kind of players they’re looking for.

There are 44 names on the pool of aspiring players eager to join the pro league, but focus will be on the Top 10 picks.

The Draft is set at 4 p.m. at the Market! Market! in Taguig City.

First: Welcoat Paints — Taking Joe Devance is the right thing for a franchise entering its second season in the pro league. He’s ready to play in the PBA. At 6-foot-7, he has the soft touch from the perimeter and is a tough defender. The Dragons are also considering Samigue Eman, but it could be a risk. Though he’s the tallest in the draft at 6-foot-9, his shooting and defensive skills are doubtful, which could take a couple of years more before he improves to become a dominant center.

Second: San Miguel Beer — While coach Siot Tanquingcen admitted that taking a big man is the logical choice, he expressed intention on having a point guard to back up incoming sophomore playmaker LA Tenorio. So don’t be surprised if SMB taps 6-foot-2 Fil-Am Ryan Reyes, who could also play the No. 2 spot. Definitely, he can orchestrate a play, but what makes him more dangerous is that he’s a complete player — can shoot, rebound, assist and defend. Another possibility is tapping JC Intal, who, if taken, will be reunited with his former Ateneo teammates Tenorio, Larry Fonacier, Enrico Villanueva and Wesley Gonzales.

Third: Sta. Lucia Realty — Coach Boyet Fernandez just loves "Baby Shaq" JR Quinahan, a 6-foot-6 center from Cebu City. His work ethic and moves at the post sound good to back up resident big men Dennis Espino and Marlou Aquino. However, Fernandez, who played the point guard position during his PBA days, said that if Eman or Devance are still available, they might alter their plans.

Fourth and fifth: Air21 — Big men. That’s what Air21 mentor Bo Perasol believes his team still needs. And topping the ‘wish list’ is former Ateneo stalwart Doug Kramer, a 6-foot-5 banger who according to him plays pretty well alongside Ranidel de Ocampo. Perasol is also looking at the possibility of having Eman and Quinahan when their turn comes, but if the two players are not available, they might take in former UAAP MVP Kenneth Bono, or might as well tap a guard in Reyes.

Sixth and seventh: Alaska Milk — Coach Tim Cone said that their immediate need are two able centers to help Sonny Thoss but who could be converted to power forward. The Aces’ picks, however, will depend on the picks of the first five teams. If they’re still available, Cone said there will be little problem in fitting to his system players like Bono, Eman and Quinahan. The current guard and wingman spots are solid, according to Cone, reason why there’s no need to get one.

Eighth: Air21 — By this time, the Express should have taken two big men. Their target now is to have a player who can play the point and small guard spots, pretty much like in the mold of the versatile Gary David, who will be out for at least three more months because of an ACL injury. Who would best fit that spot? The list is quite long, but UST’s Jojo Duncil is a hot prospect.

Ninth: San Miguel Beer — If San Miguel uses its second overall pick by taking in a big man, the Beermen might need this time a reliable guard. Marvin Cruz, the former UP point guard who is one of the true playmaker in the Draft, could be a nice addition to them with veteran playmaker Olsen Racela now in the final stages of his colorful career.

Tenth: Air21 — This pick, which came from Ginebra when they made a deal with Coca-Cola last season, is actually optional if Ginebra will use it or not. With two big man and a shooting guard, Perasol said the team might use this pick to tap a point guard to back up veteran Wynne Arboleda and Cruz or Macky Escalona are on this list.

cub
08-19-2007, 06:08 PM
2007 PBA draft:

Welcoat - Joe Devance
SMB - Samigue Eman
SLR - Ryan Reyes
Air21 - JC Intal
Air21 - Doug Kramer
Alaska - Ken Bono
Alaska - JR Quiñahan
Air21 - Yousif Aljamal
SMB - Jonas Villanueva
Ginebra - Macky Escalona

batangueño
08-19-2007, 06:38 PM
cub, wala pa bang balita sa second round?

batangueño
08-19-2007, 06:51 PM
It seems like there will be no reunion for Intal, Kramer and Escalona. While Escalona went to Ginebra, Air21 selected Marvin Cruz for the point. :o

Will it still be possible for Ginebra and Air21 to make a trade by exchanging Escalona for Cruz para naman may reunion ang tatlong Atenista sa Air21? ;D

crisgee
08-19-2007, 06:54 PM
2007 PBA draft:

Welcoat - Joe Devance
SMB - Samigue Eman
SLR - Ryan Reyes
Air21 - JC Intal
Air21 - Doug Kramer
Alaska - Ken Bono
Alaska - JR Quiñahan
Air21 - Yousif Aljamal
SMB - Jonas Villanueva
Ginebra - Macky Escalona


Grabe ang selection ng Air21! Slam Dunk Extravaganza na toh!

Bagay si Macky sa Never Say Die attitude ng Ginebra. But, I'm kinda surprised he got picked in the first round! Though I'm extremely pleased all the Ateneo boys got in the first round. Sana magamit sila nang mabuti!

batangueño
08-19-2007, 06:58 PM
Grabe ang selection ng Air21! Slam Dunk Extravaganza na toh!

Bagay si Macky sa Never Say Die attitude ng Ginebra. But, I'm kinda surprised he got picked in the first round! Though I'm extremely pleased all the Ateneo boys got in the first round. Sana magamit sila nang mabuti!

Eh mas gusto kong makita ang reunion nina Intal, Kramer at Escalona sa Air21 kaya nga sana ay i-trade na ng Ginebra si Escalona sa Air21 tapos kunin nila from Air21 si Marvin Cruz. ;D

scqg
08-19-2007, 06:59 PM
Grabe ang selection ng Air21! Slam Dunk Extravaganza na toh!

Bagay si Macky sa Never Say Die attitude ng Ginebra. But, I'm kinda surprised he got picked in the first round! Though I'm extremely pleased all the Ateneo boys got in the first round. Sana magamit sila nang mabuti!


i think macky impressed them with his performance last year with the blue eagles. he was an all heart player. bigger heart than jc intal i should say.

sa_pula
08-19-2007, 07:03 PM
Grabe ang selection ng Air21! Slam Dunk Extravaganza na toh!

Bagay si Macky sa Never Say Die attitude ng Ginebra. But, I'm kinda surprised he got picked in the first round! Though I'm extremely pleased all the Ateneo boys got in the first round. Sana magamit sila nang mabuti!


i think macky impressed them with his performance last year with the blue eagles. he was an all heart player. bigger heart than jc intal i should say.


balak talagang kunin ng ginebra si macky kaya ginamit na nila yung pick ( sa air21 sana ung pick)..

crisgee
08-19-2007, 07:07 PM
Grabe ang selection ng Air21! Slam Dunk Extravaganza na toh!

Bagay si Macky sa Never Say Die attitude ng Ginebra. But, I'm kinda surprised he got picked in the first round! Though I'm extremely pleased all the Ateneo boys got in the first round. Sana magamit sila nang mabuti!

Eh mas gusto kong makita ang reunion nina Intal, Kramer at Escalona sa Air21 kaya nga sana ay i-trade na ng Ginebra si Escalona sa Air21 tapos kunin nila from Air21 si Marvin Cruz. ;D


Hehe! ;D

Siguro kung pumasok na nang tuluyan si Jawo sa Air21, baka magningning sa paningin niya si Macky.

Dark Knight
08-19-2007, 07:11 PM
Just imagine Intal playing side by side with Arwind Santos. Now thats FRONTLINE if ever i saw one. ;D

batangueño
08-19-2007, 07:13 PM
Second Round:

11. Coca-Cola - Ronjay Buenafe
12. Welcoat - Ryan Araña
13. Sta. Lucia - Melvin Mamaclay
14. Air21 - Marvin Cruz
15. Red Bull (from Purefoods) - Jojo Duncil
16. Alaska - Ardy Larong
17. Air21 - RJ Masbang

jembengzon
08-19-2007, 07:18 PM
can anyone post who are the draftees who weren't picked ? they automatically become free agents, right ? :)

bluewing
08-19-2007, 07:24 PM
who did red bull trade to get that draft pick from the hotdogs?

batangueño
08-19-2007, 07:26 PM
who did red bull trade to get that draft pick from the hotdogs?


Wala. Nagpass ang Red Bull. Swerte ni Duncil kasi Kapampangan connection ang nagdala sa kanya sa Red Bull. ;D

bluewing
08-19-2007, 07:29 PM
i'm asking again:


does anyone know who red bull traded to purefoods to get that draft pick they used on jojo duncil?

or was it a simple matter of paki-usapan?

batangueño
08-19-2007, 07:34 PM
Actually, I am wondering of the same thing. Did Red Bull really traded someone to Purefoods in exchange for Jojo Duncil? Could it be one of the more veteran Barakos?

erichubert
08-19-2007, 07:34 PM
bluewing, i think that was part of the adducul-camaso trade last year. I also heard that DeVance has been traded to SMB for Eman and other players, nothing final though. Im quite shocked Red Bull and Talk N Text passed in a draft that is so deep and strong. It wouldn't hurt to select somebody as you are not really required to sign them. I think Pepito and Joel Solis should have been picked.

Dark Knight
08-19-2007, 07:37 PM
Is the Draft finished? Umatras pala si Jeff Chan.

bluewing
08-19-2007, 07:38 PM
bluewing, i think that was part of the adducul-camaso trade last year. I also heard that DeVance has been traded to SMB for Eman and other players, nothing final though. Im quite shocked Red Bull and Talk N Text passed in a draft that is so deep and strong. It wouldn't hurt to select somebody as you are not really required to sign them. I think Pepito and Joel Solis should have been picked.


thanks.

pero sino pa binigay ng SMB along with eman? nobody "blue," i hope.

erichubert
08-19-2007, 07:42 PM
I think this are just in the discussion stages but from what I heard its Devance for Eman and Tugade. Again its just rumors so I don't really know if it will happen or not. That would be a good trade for Welcoat only if Tugade is 100 percent healed already. Also another rumor is Jun Cabatu for Nic Belasco, this is according to mypba website.

tigerman
08-19-2007, 08:03 PM
i'm asking again:


does anyone know who red bull traded to purefoods to get that draft pick they used on jojo duncil?

or was it a simple matter of paki-usapan?


Villanueva was traded to SMB for Adducul then RB traded the latter to PF in exchange for Camaso plus a 2nd round pick.

@ batangueno - biased na kung biased, but I think it's unfair to say that Jojo was only drafted because he was a cabalen of Vice-Gov/Coach Yeng Guiao. Who knows what Yeng is thinking. We might see Duncil do a Fonacier given Yeng's excellence as a Coach and being able to bring out the best with his players.



USTE LO MEJOR!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS!

gameface_one
08-19-2007, 08:05 PM
PBA DRAFT
Welcoat gets Devance


By Musong R. Castillo
Inquirer
Last updated 06:10pm (Mla time) 08/19/2007


WELCOAT added a cornerstone to its roster Sunday by snagging 6-foot-7 Fil-American center Joe Devance as the first overall pick in the PBA Rookie Draft.

And even if coach Leo Austria described his new acquisition as the “total package,” the humble former Rookie of the Year said that getting into the playoff in his third PBA tournament would already be an achievement.

“While the other teams are looking at making the Finals every tournament, for us to get into the playoffs is OK,” Austria said. “We felt that he (Devance) is the logical choice, because he is the complete package (among the prospects).

“He can play both ends, and that is very important.”

“I’m just excited to be here and be able to help the team win a championship,” Devance, a 25-year-old graduate of Criminal Justice studies at the University of Texas in El Paso, said.

And that left Samigue Eman as San Miguel’s logical choice, the 6-foot-9 center form Mindanao picked second overall by the Beermen in the jampacked event held at the Market! Market! in Taguig and backed by Purefoods Tender Juicy, Accel and Goldilocks.

“I really wanted to be drafted by this team, because I was named after it,” said Eman, whose father Fernando worked for San Miguel and named him after the world famous beer. “I’m just so excited.
Sta. Lucia, like what coach Boyet Fernandez had hinted, pulled out the first surprise of the proceedings by selecting California-raised, 24-year-old point guard Ryan Reyes with the No. 3 pick.

“I was just nervous at first,” the 6-foot-1 Reyes said. “After the nervousness went away, I told myself that I’m ready to join the PBA and I think Sta. Lucia is a great fit (for me).”

Former Ateneo stalwarts JC Intal and Doug Kramer were chosen fourth and fifth, respectively, by Air21, which also drafted ex-San Beda gunslinger Yousif Aljamal with the eighth overall choice.

Ken Bono, the former Falcon from Adamson who won the UAAP MVP award last year, was joined by burly JR Quinahan at Alaska, which picked sixth and seventh. There were reports of a Nic Belasco for Junjun Cabatu trade being worked out which coach Tim Cone of Alaska refused comment on.

San Miguel used its second first round selection, its natural choice which was ninth, to enlist former Far Eastern swingman Jonas Villanueva, though there were rumors Sunday that management had tried to trade away that right.

Macky Escalona, the hard-nosed guard coming out of Ateneo, completed first round of hostilities by finding his way to Barangay Ginebra as the 10th overall choice.

Teams now have the next five working days to tender offers or lose their draft choices to unrestricted free agency. Players who get offers but don’t sign with their respective teams will have their rights stay with the teams that drafted them.

A total of only 17 players out of the 44 in the pool was selected, with Coca-Cola tapping Ronajy Buenafe 11th overall and Welcoat going for left-handed shooting guard Ryan Arana at No. 12.

Melvin Mamaclay was selected by Sta. Lucia, while former State University point guard Marvin Cruz was chosen by Air21 as the 14th pick.

Jojo Duncil, the UAAP Finals MVP for Santo Tomas last year who opted to forego his final year with the Growling Tigers, landed to Red Bull, which passed on its next selection – the 17trh choice – after Alaska had drafted Ardy Larong at No. 16.

Talk ‘N Text, which had only once choice the entire afternoon after trading what turned out to be the eighth overall pick to Air21 in the Ren-Ren Ritualo trade two years ago, passed up on its only chance.

The Express rounded out proceeding by selecting Rolly Masbang with the 20th choice.

batangueño
08-19-2007, 08:06 PM
batangueno - biased na kung biased, but I think it's unfair to say that Jojo was only drafted because he was a cabalen of Vice-Gov/Coach Yeng Guiao. Who knows what Yeng is thinking. We might see Duncil do a Fonacier given Yeng's excellence as a Coach and being able to bring out the best with his players.



USTE LO MEJOR!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS!


Well, I do have to admit that such post of mine might have sent the wrong message to some but it let us say that Duncil being a fellow Kapampangan of Coach Yeng Guiao also has its advantages. ;)

toti_mendiola
08-19-2007, 08:13 PM
Grabe ang selection ng Air21! Slam Dunk Extravaganza na toh!

Bagay si Macky sa Never Say Die attitude ng Ginebra. But, I'm kinda surprised he got picked in the first round! Though I'm extremely pleased all the Ateneo boys got in the first round. Sana magamit sila nang mabuti!

Eh mas gusto kong makita ang reunion nina Intal, Kramer at Escalona sa Air21 kaya nga sana ay i-trade na ng Ginebra si Escalona sa Air21 tapos kunin nila from Air21 si Marvin Cruz. ;D


I think Ginebra would hold on to Macky. With Johnny A. getting olde,they snagged a player who would immediately make impact on the rotation. I am really excited for brgy. ginebra, saktong sakto ang laro at dating ni macky sa pinakapopular na koponan sa pba.

toti_mendiola
08-19-2007, 08:16 PM
PBA DRAFT
Welcoat gets Devance


By Musong R. Castillo
Inquirer
Last updated 06:10pm (Mla time) 08/19/2007


WELCOAT added a cornerstone to its roster Sunday by snagging 6-foot-7 Fil-American center Joe Devance as the first overall pick in the PBA Rookie Draft.

And even if coach Leo Austria described his new acquisition as the “total package,” the humble former Rookie of the Year said that getting into the playoff in his third PBA tournament would already be an achievement.

“Former Ateneo stalwarts JC Intal and Doug Kramer were chosen fourth and fifth, respectively, by Air21, which also drafted ex-San Beda gunslinger Yousif Aljamal with the eighth overall choice.



It should have been "soon to be ex-San Beda gunslinger".

Mikhail
08-19-2007, 08:35 PM
Red Bull drafted up to get Duncil. Another great pick by Yeng Guiao. May bago nanaman dagdag sa guard corps nya.

erichubert
08-19-2007, 08:49 PM
I agree, Duncil would be a good replacement for Larry Fonacier in the rotation of Coach Yeng, I just wished he selected Joel Solis with the two other 2nd round picks he had, sayang. I also cannot understand Alaska selecting two slow-footed big men in Quinahan and Bono. I don't think any of them can slide to the 4 spot with their size and heft. Remember they have Thoss already, now they even traded for Cabatu. I think they want to build up a huge wall inside to be sure that nobody would be able to enter the shaded lane.

toti_mendiola
08-19-2007, 08:56 PM
I was also surprised that nobody get to snag Solis of PCU. IMHO,he is a better option than masbang.

erichubert
08-19-2007, 09:12 PM
I think he is even better than Mamaclay. In the draft camp, he clearly played much better than Mamaclay and sometimes even better than Kramer. I really don't know why Sta. Lucia selected Mamaclay, I did not see anything special in him. Solis could be a steal, if I were Welcoat I would contact him right now. As with Pepito, I think he would fit well with Coke or Purefoods, he should be at the least a solid player if not he wouldn't have cut it in the Australian League. The other snubs I think are Reed Juntilla, Dom Javier, Khiel Misa and Alex Angeles. I think a lot of the NCAA guys weren't selected, I wonder if this is because they weren't scouted or hyped as much as their UAAP counterparts.

mighty_lion
08-19-2007, 09:17 PM
Khiel Misa is a sleeper.

erichubert
08-19-2007, 09:21 PM
Misa is very good, its a pity because there could only be room for certain number of slots for the point guard position in the PBA and there are a lot of good PGs coming up. For those not drafted maybe they can volunteer and try out for the SEAG national team, they might get their break there just like Bal David before.

tigerman
08-19-2007, 09:41 PM
Speaking of Bal David, Jason Webb was wrong in saying earlier that Bal was the best example of a player who was not drafted in the draft but came back and became a superstar.

Imho, Bal was drafted by Sunkist in the 1995 season but he was not signed up.
So he went on to play with Stag in the PBL (alongside Marlou Aquino) and the National team that won the 1995 sea games afterwhich he was signed up by Ginebra in the 1996 season.




USTE LO MEJOR!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS!

erichubert
08-19-2007, 09:48 PM
Yes he was drafted by Swift then but could not crack the team with Solis, Marata and Albarillo already part of the Swift team. It turned out to be a blessing as he was taken in by the expansion Stag team in the 1996 PBL Season where he teamed up with Marlou Aquino and Michael Orquillas and also Jason Webb and Mark Telan. They won a grandslam and eventually he got into Ginebra as a free agent. In those days where the draft lasts until 5-6 rounds there are usually very very few players who become undrafted. It was even the practice then to draft a player just so he would not be embarassed by not getting drafted. Imho, probably the one of the better undrafted player was Siot Tanquincen and he isn't really much of a player either.

cricohermoso
08-19-2007, 09:56 PM
Ginebra for Escalona! YAY! :D Kulang nalang si Hatfield and Reavis uli huhu.

Exciting ang Air21! puro young guns: Intal, Kramer, Aljamal, and Marvin Cruz. Dagdag pa si Arwind Santos, Gary David, and Nino Canaleta, Ranidel de Ocampo, Aris Dimaunahan... Snatcher Arboleda at Homer Se! Hehe. Hirap lang ng position si Marvin Cruz unless magretire na si Arboleda. hehe. Kulang nalang talaga si Jawo.

Rich quality draft, I say. Upto the second round quality pa rin. I thought papadraft si Bonbon?

Siksik na sina Ken Bono and JR Quinahan with Alaska. May Nic Belasco, John Ferriols and Reynel Hugnatan na sila. Pare-parehong position.

erichubert
08-19-2007, 10:00 PM
Aljamal might go to TNT, and Belasco to Welcoat.

toti_mendiola
08-19-2007, 10:15 PM
Yes he was drafted by Swift then but could not crack the team with Solis, Marata and Albarillo already part of the Swift team. It turned out to be a blessing as he was taken in by the expansion Stag team in the 1996 PBL Season where he teamed up with Marlou Aquino and Michael Orquillas and also Jason Webb and Mark Telan. They won a grandslam and eventually he got into Ginebra as a free agent. In those days where the draft lasts until 5-6 rounds there are usually very very few players who become undrafted. It was even the practice then to draft a player just so he would not be embarassed by not getting drafted. Imho, probably the one of the better undrafted player was Siot Tanquincen and he isn't really much of a player either.

Eric wala pa ba sa line up ng swift si boybits nung mga panahong ito?

toti_mendiola
08-19-2007, 10:18 PM
Ginebra for Escalona! YAY! :D Kulang nalang si Hatfield and Reavis uli huhu.

Exciting ang Air21! puro young guns: Intal, Kramer, Aljamal, and Marvin Cruz. Dagdag pa si Arwind Santos, Gary David, and Nino Canaleta, Ranidel de Ocampo, Aris Dimaunahan... Snatcher Arboleda at Homer Se! Hehe. Hirap lang ng position si Marvin Cruz unless magretire na si Arboleda. hehe. Kulang nalang talaga si Jawo.

Rich quality draft, I say. Upto the second round quality pa rin. I thought papadraft si Bonbon?

Siksik na sina Ken Bono and JR Quinahan with Alaska. May Nic Belasco, John Ferriols and Reynel Hugnatan na sila. Pare-parehong position.

Basing from the talents and age that players of air21 have,sans any trades happening,it looms as the team of the near future.

tigerman
08-19-2007, 10:33 PM
Yes he was drafted by Swift then but could not crack the team with Solis, Marata and Albarillo already part of the Swift team. It turned out to be a blessing as he was taken in by the expansion Stag team in the 1996 PBL Season where he teamed up with Marlou Aquino and Michael Orquillas and also Jason Webb and Mark Telan. They won a grandslam and eventually he got into Ginebra as a free agent. In those days where the draft lasts until 5-6 rounds there are usually very very few players who become undrafted. It was even the practice then to draft a player just so he would not be embarassed by not getting drafted. Imho, probably the one of the better undrafted player was Siot Tanquincen and he isn't really much of a player either.

Eric wala pa ba sa line up ng swift si boybits nung mga panahong ito?


Ako na sasagot, ok lang ba? ;D

Andun na si Boybits. Siya ang ROY sa batch 1994 siya eh along with Locsin, Evangelista etc.



USTE LO MEJOR!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS!

toti_mendiola
08-19-2007, 10:45 PM
Thanks kapusa. ;D It made clear swifts reason on not signing Bal David then. Too many guards on their roster.l

cub
08-19-2007, 10:53 PM
Aljamal might go to TNT, and Belasco to Welcoat.


any sources? Aljamal for? Belasco for?

@cricohermoso,

kailangan kasi ng big man ng Alaska kaya kinuha nila si Quiñahan at Bono. they need a back up for Sonny Thoss. Luigi Trillo is Bono's former coach, tingin ko isa rin to sa mga factors kaya kinuha nila to. :)

toti_mendiola
08-19-2007, 11:04 PM
I would rather like al jamal to stick it with air21. His brand of play perfectly fit air21 uo tempo game. Pero kung sa tnt siya makakakuha ng kontratang mag se secure at mag se set ng magandang future niya e hala,sige pumirma na siya dun sa tnt. ;D

Buti na lang me bago ng variation yung triangle offense ng team cone para tumugma sa laro ng mga hefty draft picks nila. ;D

cub
08-20-2007, 12:08 AM
I would rather like al jamal to stick it with air21. His brand of play perfectly fit air21 uo tempo game. Pero kung sa tnt siya makakakuha ng kontratang mag se secure at mag se set ng magandang future niya e hala,sige pumirma na siya dun sa tnt. ;D



maganda ang sistema sa Air21, pinapasok lahat ng players every game. PERO, Aljamal will play behind Canaleta, De Ocampo, Se, and Intal. tingin ko he will be given atleast 8minutes at the maximum per game. kung ako ang masusunod, sana ma-trade na lang si Aljamal sa Purefoods. i heard some news na gusto daw kunin ng PF si Aljamal dahil hindi na ata ma-re-renew ang contracts ni Limpot at Yee. Aljamal can be a back up for Kerby and Adducul there. at siyempre, pwede niyang maging backer dun si Coach Koy.

kryptonite
08-20-2007, 12:10 AM
Can anyone give a background on Ronjay Buenafe and Ardy Larong? Like, which school produced them and their height? Thanks

cub
08-20-2007, 12:24 AM
Ronjay Buenafe came from EAC. he was a three time MVP in their league. he was also a teammate of Quiñahan in Burger King in the PBL. plays much like Bonbon Custodio but is a bit taller.

Ardy Larong came from Visayas and played in Toyota Otis. he's a veteran in the PBL and is a pesky defender. i remember him, guarding the unstoppable Mac Cardona in the PBL. nagkakaasaran pa sila nun. na-eject pa ata siya nun.

joelex
08-20-2007, 01:16 AM
i dont expect all of air 21's picks will play for them this season. they might be traded for some scrap players before the season starts (as usual).

could the drafting of buenafe signal the end of joseph yeo's coke stint? well if that is the case, then the rumor of yeo heading to barangay ginebra in exchange for a 1st round pick next year might have some substance.

agree with some of the comments regarding sta lucia's pick mamaclay, IMHO they couldve gotten at least 10 players much better than him. heck im sure mamaclay will be left undrafted and if they really want him they couldve signed him up as a FA. questionable decision, similar to the drafting of mark magsumbol a year ago. good for them though that kelly has become one of the top players and ryan reyes looms as one of the best PG's in the league.

joelex
08-20-2007, 01:57 AM
- one of the two heavyweights alaska drafted is rumored to be used as trade bait. it is unclear though who among the 2 is being shopped around, but bono might have an advantage staying in an alaska jersey with the cebuana connection in alaska.

pachador
08-20-2007, 03:03 AM
are this the final teams for the draftees? devance to welcoat , Eman to san miguel and Reyes to Santa Lucia ,Alaska got Ken Bono and JR Quinahan ??

DEVANCE IS NO.1 PICK
“Popular, right & logical choice” – Austria
Monday, 20 August 2007
Welcoat is a young team in a hurry.

After a rather disappointing maiden season, the Dragons went for the present over the future as they selected Joe Devance No. 1 pick overall in the 2007 PBA Rookie Draft at the jampacked Market! Market! Activity Center in Taguig Sunday.


The guessing game over who would be this year’s top pick reached fever-pitch the past week as Welcoat seemed torn between the versatile Devance and Samigue Eman, the tallest among the 44 rookie hopefuls whom many see more as a project.

"After a long, thorough discussion and deliberation, we decided to go for the more complete package who can play both ends of the court. We think it's the popular, right and logical choice," said coach Leo Austria after his team bestowed top pick honors on Devance.

The soft-spoken Welcoat chief tactician believes he has a player in Devance who can immediately help turn the Dragons fortunes around in their second season in Asia’s first play-for-pay cage loop.

Expectations are high that Devance would deliver and co-team owners Terry Que and Raymund Yu readily declared they would make things easy for the Fil-Am behemoth, offering him the maximum pay in his first three years in the league, or no less than P7 million.

"For sure, we will improve with the addition of Devance. We'll be more competitive than last season pero malabo pa rin ang championship," said Austria.

Austria hinted picking Devance in the first round and Ryan Arana in the second round was the start of a rebuilding the team will undertake. He said they may close trade deals in the coming days.

Devance, a former University of Texas at El Paso mainstay, said he's happy to finally make it to the local pro league and he's looking forward to helping Welcoat realize its dreams.

"It's not about Joe Devance, it's about Welcoat. I'm not worried about my individual performance. I'm thinking of the team," said Devance, accompanied in the draft exercise by his Filipina mother Mae Sanz Devance, a native of Escalante, Negros Occidental.

Devance, another Fil-Am chosen No. 1 in the Draft joining the ranks of Andy Seigle, Jay Washington and Kelly Williams, actually barely made it to the Draft pool with his appeal for extension in submitting required documents accommodated by the league board.

San Miguel settled for Eman at No. 2 and got Jonas Villanueva at No. 9. Sta. Lucia selected Ryan Reyes at No. 3, Air21 picked JC Intal, Doug Kramer and Yousif Aljamal at Nos. 4, 5 and 8, Alaska got Ken Bono and JR Quinahan at Nos. 6 and 7, and Barangay Ginebra chose Macky Escalona at No. 10.

In the second round, Ronjay Buenafe went to Coca-Cola, Arana to Welcoat, Melvin Mamaclay to Sta. Lucia, Marvin Cruz and JR Masbang to Air21, Jojo Duncil to Red Bull and Ardy Larong to Alaska.

Red Bull waived two other draft rights in the second round and Talk N Text one. Thus, only 17 out of 44 players were picked in the 2007 Rookie Draft sponsored by Purefoods Tender Juicy Hotdogs and backed by Accel and Goldilocks.

Players not picked automatically became unrestricted free agents. They can try out with any team.

Eman said joining the Beermen is a dream come true for him and his father Fernando who used to work with San Miguel in Davao.

"My name Samigue is derived from San Miguel. I'm sure my father is so happy and proud right now," said Eman, the tallest among the hopefuls at 6-foot-9.

Sta. Lucia, meanwhile, has gotten another blue-chip guard in Reyes after dealing Alex Cabagnot to Coca-Cola last campaign.

Sta. Lucia governor Buddy Encarnado said they're also ready to offer Reyes the maximum package for the next three years.

"Before the draft I was so nervous and I didn't know what to expect. Now, I'm excited to join my new team and hoping to contribute," said Reyes, a Cal State Fullerton product who used to play with Mike Holper, Chris Pacana and Washington in LA. (NC)

gameface_one
08-20-2007, 07:57 AM
Welcoat picks Devance


By NELSON BELTRAN
The Philippine Star

Welcoat wanted a do-all, go-to guy as it opted to get Joe Devance over Samigue Eman as the No. 1 pick overall in the 2007 PBA Rookie Draft at the Market! Market! Mall in Taguig Sunday.

"After a long, thorough discussion and deliberation, we decided to go for the more complete package who can play on both ends of the court. We think it’s the popular, right and logical choice," said coach Leo Austria after his team bestowed top pick honors on Devance.

With Devance, Austria thought they’ve gotten a player who can well help them in their bid to improve their forgettable finishes last season.

The team management also had high hopes on Devance that co-team owners Terry Que and Raymund Yu readily declared they would make things easy for the Fil-Am behemoth, offering him right away the maximum pay in his first three years in the league. That would be no less than P7 million.

"For sure, we will improve with the addition of Devance. We’ll be more competitive than last season pero malabo pa rin ang championship," said Austria.

Austria hinted picking Devance in the first round and Ryan Araña in the second round was the start of its rebuilding plan. He said they may close trade deals in the coming days.

Devance, a former University of Texas at El Paso mainstay, said he’s happy to finally make it to the local pro league and he’s looking forward to helping Welcoat achieve its aspirations.

"It’s not about Joe Devance, it’s about Welcoat. I’m not worried about my individual performance. I’m thinking of the team," said Devance, accompanied in the draft exercise by his Filipina mother Mae Sanz Devance, a native of Escalante, Negros Occidental.

Devance thus joined Andy Seigle, Jay Washington and Kelly Williams as the No. 1 Fil-Ams chosen in the draft. He actually barely made it to the draft pool when the league board gave him an extension to submit required documents.

San Miguel settled for Eman at No. 2 and got Jonas Villanueva at No. 9. Sta. Lucia selected Ryan Reyes at No. 3, Air21 picked JC Intal, Doug Kramer and Yousif Aljamal at Nos. 4, 5 and 8, Alaska got Ken Bono and JR Quinahan at Nos. 6 and 7, and Barangay Ginebra chose Macky Escalona at No. 10.

In the second round, Ronjay Buenafe went to Coca-Cola, Araña to Welcoat, Melvin Mamaclay to Sta. Lucia, Marvin Cruz and JR Masbang to Air21, Jojo Duncil to Red Bull and Ardy Larong to Alaska.

Red Bull waived two other draft rights in the second round and Talk n Text one. Thus, only 17 out of 44 players were picked in the 2007 draft exercise sponsored by Purefoods Tender Juicy Hotdogs and backed by Accel and Goldilocks.

Players not picked automatically became unrestricted free agents. They can try out with any team.

Eman said joining the Beermen is a dream come true for him and his father Fernando who used to work with San Miguel in Davao.

"My name Samigue derived from San Miguel. I’m sure my father is so happy and proud right now," said Eman, the tallest among the hopefuls at 6-foot-8.

Sta. Lucia, meanwhile, has gotten another blue-chip guard in Reyes after dealing Alex Cabagnot to Coca-Cola last campaign.

Sta. Lucia governor Buddy Encarnado said they’re also ready to offer Reyes the maximum package for the next three years.

Sam Miguel
08-20-2007, 09:38 AM
Can anyone give a background on Ronjay Buenafe and Ardy Larong? Like, which school produced them and their height? Thanks


Ronjay Buenafe is a 6-foot-2 guard who is very athletic, formerly the main man of the EAC Generals. He's quite a scorer, able to fill it up from long range as well as slash and fill the lanes, has a pretty good leap, strong dunker although he rarely dunks in games, coaches seem to prefer having him snipe from the perimeter. The knock on him is that he is too one-handed and is a below-average passer. When he gets the ball he will try to score 90% of the time, and he will most likely take it to his strong side only. Still, he brings a lot of experience and toughness to a Coke team that can use it. Which of course begs the question: What will now become of Joseph Yeo and the other Ronjay, Enrile.

Ardie Larong has been around many a block, having been a fixture in the PBL and the smaller semi-pro leagues across the islands. Larong is about 6 feet tall and knows all the tricks, can play both guard spots OK but not with any special aplomb. It was surprising to see Alaska drafting him since they still have Jeff Cariaso, Willy Miller and Mike Cortez, not to mention Aaron Aban. Where does Larong get minutes on a lineup like this, or does he wind up as a drafted practise player?

Did Jeff Chan apply for the draft? If he did I am very surprised no one picked him up. He is at least 6-foot-2, can shoot the lights out, is very athletic, knows how to win and play with other good players, and he can play defense having been under Koy Banal for so long. Since he was on at least two UAAP championship teams he would also have a loyal fan following. Why would a team pick the likes of Buenafe and Larong ahead of Chan, has he been a headcase away from the headlines?

JonarSabilano
08-20-2007, 09:42 AM
Can anyone give a background on Ronjay Buenafe and Ardy Larong? Like, which school produced them and their height? Thanks



Did Jeff Chan apply for the draft? If he did I am very surprised no one picked him up. He is at least 6-foot-2, can shoot the lights out, is very athletic, knows how to win and play with other good players, and he can play defense having been under Koy Banal for so long. Since he was on at least two UAAP championship teams he would also have a loyal fan following. Why would a team pick the likes of Buenafe and Larong ahead of Chan, has he been a headcase away from the headlines?


Chan pulled out of the draft.

Sam Miguel
08-20-2007, 10:03 AM
I agree, Duncil would be a good replacement for Larry Fonacier in the rotation of Coach Yeng, I just wished he selected Joel Solis with the two other 2nd round picks he had, sayang. I also cannot understand Alaska selecting two slow-footed big men in Quinahan and Bono. I don't think any of them can slide to the 4 spot with their size and heft. Remember they have Thoss already, now they even traded for Cabatu. I think they want to build up a huge wall inside to be sure that nobody would be able to enter the shaded lane.


Jojo Duncil is a polished and experienced player who finishes his college career a winner and a UAAP Finals MVP. His big adjustment to the pros would be on defense, because he won't be able to just shoot over people and get the easy ones he did in the UAAP, and he can ask the likes of Aaron Aban about that. Larry Fonacier may not have been much of an athlete compared to the crackerjacks of the PBA but he was incredibly intelligent and was a very efficient player. In other words they are different sides of a common coin.

If I were Alaska and I am looking to keep only one of the Michelin men I drafted I would trade Ken Bono and keep JR Quinahan. Yes, Bono is a UAAP MVP and had great numbers in his last two PBL conferences. But Quinahan had better PBL numbers and is a better overall athlete. Jeff Cariaso is getting older and Alaska may want to look for a productive veteran swingman in the 28-30 years old range to replace him by using Bono as trade bait.

Joel Solis played well in the Rookie Camp which is why I am also surprised by the drafting of Melvin Mamaclay. I love seeing a hardcore guy make good but it does not lessen the mystery. Mamaclay has been making the rounds of the smaller commercial leagues, last I saw him he was playing at the old Phelps Dodge gym a couple weeks ago. Perhaps what made him attractive as a second-rounder is that he has more skills acorss the board compared to Solis. In short, Mamaclay can contribute immediately with his experience and skill compared to Solis who has never shown a consistent jumpshot or an ability to handle and pass. On the downside, Mamaclay is to my recollection already pushing 30 while Solis is only 25. Does this mean Sta Lucia will use Mamaclay immediately as part of their regular rotation? Where does Mamaclay get minutes with Marlou Aquino, Dennis Espino, Ricky Calimag, Bitoy Omolon and even Kelly Williams ahead of him?

cub
08-20-2007, 10:49 AM
Calimag was acquired by Coke last season. I think he will have somep playing time in the Realtors because Omolon and Williams plays the 3 position. their starting line up would be Miranda, Mendoza, Williams, Espino and Isip. back up frontliners would be Omolon, Mamaclay and Aquino.

irateluvmachine
08-20-2007, 11:21 AM
MY DRAFT REPORT CARD:

Air21 (A) - excellent draft...though i wish they went for quinahan instead of kramer, to address their need for a true center. *nevertheless, kramer addresses the muscle problem, while intal and aljamal add even more versatility and ability to play multiple positions. *cruz is the PG of the future, total upgrade over jimwell "damaged goods" torion. *rj masbang looks to be a future practice player.

Alaska (C) - one big man in the first round was enough, considering the lack of depth at PG and jeffrey cariaso's advanced age. *but if the rumors are true, i say they keep bono and dangle quinahan as trade bait...as the former may fit in better to the alaska system. *larong is a longshot to make it in the lineup, despite improved numbers n the last PBL conference...

Brgy. Ginebra (B-) - good pick, as escalona is more of a pass-first point guard as opposed to echavez, an SG trapped in a really small PG's body. *still...marvin cruz was very much available at #10...

Coca-Cola (B-) - ronjay buenafe - hardcore player makes good. *many expected him to sneak into the first round, and he's a quality pick for the tigers who can sneak away minutes from last year's busts at the SG position (yeo and enrile)...

Purefoods (N/A) - ryan gregorio is the penniless man's larry brown, and because of this (and vet-oriented management), purefoods has seldom been a place for a rookie to grow. *besides, they've got chico lanete and (supposedly) al magpayo thru the FA wire, two "veteran rookies" who have waited long enough for their chance at the pros...

Red Bull (C) - duncil fills a need at backup SG, but at 6'0-6'1 he's a bit too short for the 2...and as stated, may struggle against bigger, stronger PBA two-guards. *they shouldn't have passed with their two other selections.

San Miguel (B+/C) - so that's where samigue eman got his name...i knew it. *kidding aside, i don't see him getting much playing time behind pena and e-vil. *if he fulfills his upside, it's a B+ for SMB. *if not...then it's a C. *expect jonas villanueva to oust another ex-FEU standout (kiko adriano) from the backcourt rotation...a very solid pick at #9.

Sta. Lucia (B+) - reyes' entry spells the further slide of tweener extraordinare paolo mendoza into obscurity...and further down the bench. *mamaclay may be a great story - uaap/pbl standout turned hardcore standout - but he's still a longshot.

Talk 'n' Text (N/A) - they should've used their second-round pick...anything is better than watching an over-the-hill vic pablo and patrick fran play token minutes for the phone pals...

Welcoat (A-) - if welcoat needs more immediate results, they got the right guy. *devance will step up immediately and team up with jay-r reyes as one of the league's top young big man combos. *arana has a very good chance to start, with little competition at the 2 position.

random notes...gilbert neo, who wasn't selected, was the oldest draft-eligible at 28. *i think mamaclay is "only" 27 going on 28...he may be a longshot as i stated, but i'm rooting for him to sneak into SLR's lineup. *as for purefoods rumored to be going after aljamal, i can only hope that's true...but will coach greggy give him the playing time he needs to develop? *no "surprise package" fil-foreigners this year, as daryl pepito went undrafted. *and is ken bono really 310 pounds as stated in an earlier post? *i know he's huge...but 310 pounds?!?!? *parang pang-NFL ata yan...

and here's hoping these rookie FA's crop up in a PBA lineup sooner or later, hopefully sooner - khiel misa, reed juntilla, kenneth coyukiang, dom javier and mark moreno...IMHO, these guys could've sneaked into the second round...

sa_pula
08-20-2007, 11:32 AM
sayang sana matuloy si intal sa ginebra..blitang interesado daw coach ng ginebra kay intal.inoffer nila si holper para sa no.4 pick ng air21 para makuha si intal kasi nga nmn kulang sa no.3 ang ginebra kaso hindi daw pumayag ang air21..ano kaya kung holper+2nd round pick ng bgk ( mas malalim draft pool next yr.) sana pumayag na air21.. ;D ;D

cub
08-20-2007, 11:36 AM
one sided naman ung trade na yun. Holper for 4th pick? who are they kidding? kahit sinong team hindi papayag jan. eh kahit nasa pros na si Holper, mas magaling pa si Intal sa kanya e.

jet127
08-20-2007, 11:40 AM
Sino po trade ng red bull to purefoods for purefoods pick sa 2nd round?

erichubert
08-20-2007, 11:59 AM
It was part of the Adducul-Camaso trade.

erichubert
08-20-2007, 12:04 PM
Speaking of the draft, I just want to comment of the draft coverage this year. For me it was one of the most boring coverage ever! Mas maganda pa ata dati when it was on IBC 13. It started at 4 pm with Mico and Jason Webb talking about everything about the draftees and by 630 they were still talking about the draftees! And they kept on replaying those videos about the draftees that was probably shown for 20 times already. I hope they can emulate the NBA coverage of the draft and get better analysts ala Charles Barkley and Kenny Smith. What I mean is that they need an analyst that is not afraid to criticize and nitpick the choices of the teams and the draftees. If you listen to Jason Webb, it seems like every pick was great and that every draftee was future stars. It was so cliche.

bluewing
08-20-2007, 01:30 PM
at kahit isang beses man lang sana, may isang draftee na sumagot ng : "IF IT WERE UP TO ME, I'D PICK ME FIRST OVERALL." masyadong pa-humble ang mga bwaka ng ina... konting yabang naman. this is entertainment after all. ;D

joelex
08-20-2007, 03:10 PM
sayang sana matuloy si intal sa ginebra..blitang interesado daw coach ng ginebra kay intal.inoffer nila si holper para sa no.4 pick ng air21 para makuha si intal kasi nga nmn kulang sa no.3 ang ginebra kaso hindi daw pumayag ang air21..ano kaya kung holper+2nd round pick ng bgk ( mas malalim draft pool next yr.) sana pumayag na air21.. ;D ;D


kahit sino naman hindi papayag kung HOLPER LANG ang ibibgay.

Sam Miguel
08-20-2007, 04:44 PM
If Ginebra really wants JC Intal I don't know who they could trade. If its just Mike Holper they'll have to package another player like say Mark Macapagal. Holper can rotate at the 4/3 spot with Nino Canaleta and Arwind Santos. Macapagal could back up Gary David. Neither of these guys will bitch about playing time. I'm sure Air 21 would love to get say Sunday Salvacion, but this guy played too well during the absence of Fast and Furious to be packaged as trade material, and I doubt Ginebra is willing to give up any of its other stars.

But where would a career college "softcore" player like Intal fit in with a team of tough guys? Macky Escalona is not a problem since he is a known hardnosed guard who gets in people's faces and does not need to score to be productive. Intal will likely back up Rudy Hatfield at the 4 and 3 slots, but will the Ginebra faithful accept a guy who does not exactly fit the Barangay Ginebra mold?

irateluvmachine
08-21-2007, 11:30 AM
MY DRAFT REPORT CARD:

Air21 (A) - excellent draft...though i wish they went for quinahan instead of kramer, to address their need for a true center. *nevertheless, kramer addresses the muscle problem, while intal and aljamal add even more versatility and ability to play multiple positions. *cruz is the PG of the future, total upgrade over jimwell "damaged goods" torion. *rj masbang looks to be a future practice player.

Alaska (C) - one big man in the first round was enough, considering the lack of depth at PG and jeffrey cariaso's advanced age. *but if the rumors are true, i say they keep bono and dangle quinahan as trade bait...as the former may fit in better to the alaska system. *larong is a longshot to make it in the lineup, despite improved numbers n the last PBL conference...

Brgy. Ginebra (B-) - good pick, as escalona is more of a pass-first point guard as opposed to echavez, an SG trapped in a really small PG's body. *still...marvin cruz was very much available at #10...

Coca-Cola (B-) - ronjay buenafe - hardcore player makes good. *many expected him to sneak into the first round, and he's a quality pick for the tigers who can sneak away minutes from last year's busts at the SG position (yeo and enrile)...

Purefoods (N/A) - ryan gregorio is the penniless man's larry brown, and because of this (and vet-oriented management), purefoods has seldom been a place for a rookie to grow. *besides, they've got chico lanete and (supposedly) al magpayo thru the FA wire, two "veteran rookies" who have waited long enough for their chance at the pros...

Red Bull (C) - duncil fills a need at backup SG, but at 6'0-6'1 he's a bit too short for the 2...and as stated, may struggle against bigger, stronger PBA two-guards. *they shouldn't have passed with their two other selections.

San Miguel (B+/C) - so that's where samigue eman got his name...i knew it. *kidding aside, i don't see him getting much playing time behind pena and e-vil. *if he fulfills his upside, it's a B+ for SMB. *if not...then it's a C. *expect jonas villanueva to oust another ex-FEU standout (kiko adriano) from the backcourt rotation...a very solid pick at #9.

Sta. Lucia (B+) - reyes' entry spells the further slide of tweener extraordinare paolo mendoza into obscurity...and further down the bench. *mamaclay may be a great story - uaap/pbl standout turned hardcore standout - but he's still a longshot.

Talk 'n' Text (N/A) - they should've used their second-round pick...anything is better than watching an over-the-hill vic pablo and patrick fran play token minutes for the phone pals...

Welcoat (A-) - if welcoat needs more immediate results, they got the right guy. *devance will step up immediately and team up with jay-r reyes as one of the league's top young big man combos. *arana has a very good chance to start, with little competition at the 2 position.

random notes...gilbert neo, who wasn't selected, was the oldest draft-eligible at 28. *i think mamaclay is "only" 27 going on 28...he may be a longshot as i stated, but i'm rooting for him to sneak into SLR's lineup. *as for purefoods rumored to be going after aljamal, i can only hope that's true...but will coach greggy give him the playing time he needs to develop? *no "surprise package" fil-foreigners this year, as daryl pepito went undrafted. *and is ken bono really 310 pounds as stated in an earlier post? *i know he's huge...but 310 pounds?!?!? *parang pang-NFL ata yan...

and here's hoping these rookie FA's crop up in a PBA lineup sooner or later, hopefully sooner - khiel misa, reed juntilla, kenneth coyukiang, dom javier and mark moreno...IMHO, these guys could've sneaked into the second round...


addendum. aljamal is now with talk 'n' text, so i'm adjusting their grade to B. he should get the 15 minutes per game that used to go to vic pablo, and be much more productive while at it. at mukhang drawing nga talaga yung nakuha (or kukunin) ng PF si magpayo...pex info as usual...and they remain the only team with N/A as their grade, as free agent lanete is their only confirmed rookie addition so far.

Joescoundrel
08-24-2007, 09:26 AM
Were there any players NOT drafted that you guys think SHOULD HAVE BEEN drafted...?

By "should have been", I guess we could think of this as "he could have filled this team or that team's needs at this position" or even "he is a better player than so-and-so".

For instance: Sta Lucia picked up Melvin Mamaclay. Why not Joel Solis or Beau Belga?

Alaska (?) picked up Ardie Larong. Why not Khiel Misa or Joferson Gonzales?

Was this just the year of the veteran?

toti_mendiola
08-24-2007, 09:41 AM
manong joe i think beau belga didn't apply for this years draft.


chris baluyot, formerly of the ssc, me thinks was the better option than araña.
baluyot is equal with ryan in terms of defense and offese but with more heft and bulk.

erichubert
08-24-2007, 11:55 AM
I think overall Arana is better than Baluyot. Arana's game is so underrated but he can give you all the intangibles specially on defense. He is scrappy and plays intelligently at the same time plus he has improved on his outside shooting this past year in the PBL. I see him eventually to become a Patrick Fran type of a player, one who would never become a star but is very invaluable to the success of the team.

For this draft class, here is my prediction:
First(s) to become an all-star- Joe Devance and Ryan Reyes
First to become a mythical team member- Ryan Reyes
First(s) to become defensive team member- Samigue Eman and Ryan Arana

Rookie of the Year- Ryan Reyes
All Rookie team- Reyes, Devance, Intal, Kramer, Arana

Overall although this draft class was loaded and deep, I still feel that last year's will eventually yield more stars in Williams, Santos, Tenorio and eventually Espinas too.

cub
08-24-2007, 09:57 PM
wala kasing ginawang maganda yang si Baluyot sa pbl eh. beterano na dun, di pa gumagawa. si arana naman, may nagawa sa pbl. maganda pa pinakita sa rookie camp.

joelex
08-25-2007, 04:27 AM
the PBA should do something to correct some of its draft policies.

if we question the drafting of guys like melvin mamaclay and rj masbang, not to mention the 3 passes made during the 2nd round, it is because of the supposed "drafting fee" a PBA team needs to pay to the PBL team of the player drafted.

come mid 2nd round, teams in order to save on the 50k just pass and sign up free agents afterwards which would negate the said fee. mamaclay and masbang didnt have any PBL team the past season which means the PBA teams that drafted them avoided the 50k fee.

erichubert
08-25-2007, 09:59 AM
I think the developmental fee would only be paid if they actually signed the player to a contract, that would make more sense. But if it is really true that you have to pay 50k for just drafting a PBL player then that should explain why teams pass on blue-chip prospects late in the 2nd round. It is sad because it sort of defeats the purpose of having a draft or a 2nd round of drafting if teams are bound by that rule.

kaybee07
08-29-2007, 09:48 AM
Ken Bono, the former Falcon from Adamson who won the UAAP MVP award last year, was joined by burly JR Quinahan at Alaska, which picked sixth and seventh.

Teams now have the next five working days to tender offers or lose their draft choices to unrestricted free agency. Players who get offers but don’t sign with their respective teams will have their rights stay with the teams that drafted them.

Alaska had drafted Ardy Larong at No. 16.




I feel for these three players. They all signed over their rights to Alaska after the draft but to this day have failed to receive any offers from the Aces because the entire team is still in the United States.

Sila na lang ata sa mga draftees ang hindi pa nakakapirma, and if I recall correctly, the last paychecks these guys received were from their respective PBL teams and the last PBL tournament ended two months ago pa.

According to Joaqui Trillo's secretary, the team will be flying in from their trip on the first week of September pa. But these guys won't be able to negotiate their contracts until Mr. Trillo comes back which will be a week after the team arrives.

Kawawa naman mga draftees ng Alaska, almost one month after the draft pa bago makapirma (granted na papipirmahin nga sila!). Worst case scenario is that hindi pa sila magkasundo ng team sa terms ng contract and by the time they try to negotiate with other teams, either there won't be space for them anymore in the lineups because by then buo na rin sila, or they won't get the terms they want because of salary cap restrictions...

christian
08-29-2007, 10:21 AM
Free Agency! I'm sure with their talent, many teams would be looking into them.

Mateen Cleaves
08-30-2007, 06:14 AM
Ken Bono, the former Falcon from Adamson who won the UAAP MVP award last year, was joined by burly JR Quinahan at Alaska, which picked sixth and seventh.

Teams now have the next five working days to tender offers or lose their draft choices to unrestricted free agency. Players who get offers but don’t sign with their respective teams will have their rights stay with the teams that drafted them.

Alaska had drafted Ardy Larong at No. 16.




I feel for these three players. They all signed over their rights to Alaska after the draft but to this day have failed to receive any offers from the Aces because the entire team is still in the United States.

Sila na lang ata sa mga draftees ang hindi pa nakakapirma, and if I recall correctly, the last paychecks these guys received were from their respective PBL teams and the last PBL tournament ended two months ago pa.
...


What about the five working day period mentioned in the article? Wala man lang bang offer sheet on the table from Alaska?

kaybee07
08-30-2007, 09:13 AM
^
That's their problem nga, Mateen...

On draft day, they signed over their rights to Alaska expecting contract negotiations to occur within the next five working days. Unfortunately, the Aces left for the States the day after the draft so to this day no offers have been given to them.

So technically the five day period has lapsed. But because the players already signed over their rights, they cannot be considered free agents and they cannot negotiate with other teams without a go-signal from Alaska.

Problema naman sa Alaska management, sobrang binibitin ang mga draftees nila. Kahit pa sabihin na out of the country sila, there are still ways to communicate naman with the players or their agents so that negotiations can already begin. Ang text lang nila ay puro "wait for us to come home." Kawawa naman ang mga naiwan dito..

Kid Cubao
08-30-2007, 09:36 AM
wala tayong magagawa dyan. kung sinabi ni señor joaqui na maghintay sina ken, JR, at andy, talagang dapat maghintay.

erichubert
08-30-2007, 09:45 AM
I don't think Bono and Quinahan have anything to worry about as it is almost certain they would be signed as Joaqui Trillo said in an interview. The question really is for how long and how much. Their bargaining power might be diminished now that other teams have almost completed their rosters so the two are almost stuck with what Alaska would offer. I pity Ardy Larong though, he is the one who is not sure to be signed given the logjam in his position with Alaska, if he isn't signed by the team, at this stage I doubt he would be able to sneak into other teams. He might be relegated to the PBL again. Just shows how important it is for a draftee to be selected to the right team instead of being selected high in the draft.

bluetruck
08-30-2007, 04:11 PM
players in the pba are at the mercy of the teams unlike in the nba where they have a strong players' union.

yokam
10-16-2007, 06:29 PM
SMB/Magnolia has really done great in the draft. They got a potential big man in Sam Eman and a point guard in Jonas Villanueva who can fill in the shoes that will be left by Olsen Racela very soon.

But the biggest winner in the draft is Welcoat, Joe DeVance is simply too impressive and too good. Now the Dragons can start to build around him. DeVance + Nic Belasco + JayR Reyes, now all they need is a good point guard. Let Alex Compton play!!

toti_mendiola
10-17-2007, 10:01 PM
Medyo matindi pala ang baptism of fire ng mga draftees at napaka physical ng laro ngayon sa PBA. Kahit yung mga beterano eh nawawala ang mga sarili at gusto na lang gumanti at manira.

joelex
10-17-2007, 10:24 PM
medyo out of hand nga yung first game kanina between SLR and purefoods, wala na halos tinawag na foul, parang nasa sabungan mga player,

yokam
10-25-2007, 07:57 AM
Alaska's rookie big men JR Quiñahan and Ken Bono has not lived up to expectations yet, they're totally outplayed by other team's big men.

aircanda
10-25-2007, 10:03 AM
^^ sir hinde naman... in my opinion... maganda na ang pinakita ng dalawa.. olats nga lang talaga ang team nila...

kaybee07
10-25-2007, 01:40 PM
Alaska's rookie big men JR Quiñahan and Ken Bono has not lived up to expectations yet, they're totally outplayed by other team's big men.


What exactly do people expect from these two rookies to begin with? Considering their place in Alaska's rotation of big men I think they are doing just fine. I agree with aircanda, Alaska just isn't doing well so far this conference. Hopefully this will change as the season progresses...

yokam
10-25-2007, 02:25 PM
It's probably due to the fact that Alaska hasn't able to adopt to the new rules yet. Bono and Quiñahan are overhyped thus far, though it's still too early, but so far, they haven't lived up to expectations.

erichubert
10-25-2007, 06:38 PM
I think Quinahan has played well in the minutes given to him. In fact he scored in double figures in his very first pro game. Bono hasn't been used too much yet, so I don't think we can pass judgement on him already. So with other rookies, it is way too early to see who will be busts.

irateluvmachine
10-26-2007, 03:39 PM
^i agree with the above comments. quinahan and bono aren't bad at all in their limited minutes, and it's too early to write anybody off as a bust.

...and if i'm not mistaken, among the 2007 draftees, only rj masbang is not with a PBA team. ardy larong didn't get signed by alaska, but made the purefoods lineup, and jojo duncil, i think made the red bull lineup as the 14th man.

cub
10-26-2007, 10:29 PM
bakit kaya hindi pinapasok ni yeng guiao si Jojo Duncil? IMO, Duncil >> Membrere.