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pachador
02-09-2007, 03:31 AM
I read in the news that eman samigue was sick for 6 weeks recently? was the illness serious enough that it will permanently affect his basketball skills and playing? or is it only a temporary setback? is he making progress now?
thanks

pachador
05-25-2007, 07:28 AM
Can anybody here contest or rebut what the person below says about 6'10" Eman Samigue ? this is really interesting . thanks

by sajubeads in pba.ph forum:

Im always watching games of Henkel Sista regularly. I don't know about eman's attitude during practice, but what ive notice is poor coaching and lack of exposure for Eman Samigue. Samigue is usually included in the starting lineup , he would score 5 to 7 points in the first 4 to 5 minutes then benched the entire first half and gets to play another 4 to 5 minutes in the second half. I mean, during the short period he is inside the court he is dominating but it's just that the STUPID COACH instead of giving Eman the confidence , he will benched Eman and let OLD HAS BEEN 5-2 Jam ALFAD and 6-3 Matias get the lion's share of the playing time.

My point is if this Coaches , Garcia , conjured the idea of having Eman as the most important local bigman in the future they should start building him up. Just like what China has done to Yao in the 90's and to Yi jilian. Sa case ni Eman, binabangko pano dedevelop yan. I think during his short stint inside his doing a good job naman.It's just that, the point gurads instead of dumping the ball inside( Mesa especially), they would dribble dribble and shoot 3's. Nakikipagpatayan na si Eman to get good inside position pero walang play for him or they dont pass him the ball.

you watch games of henkel at Basketball TV to also note what ive noticed. In fairness to Eman, i think he is much better than Thoss when Thossw as still in the PBL.

I think it is just a ploy of Coach garcia of benching Eman in the PBL, in order to lower his stock in the incoming draft in order for welcoat to take him . remember carcia is an assistant coach of welcoat. Binabano nila si Eman para walang in terested sa kanya para sila ang kukuha sa kanya.

Kid Cubao
05-25-2007, 08:16 AM
for starters, his name is samigue eman, not the other way around.

as far as his game is concerned, i think it's ok, although he is no longer as fast as before. he's gained muscle weight, and that i think will be good for him in the long run, especially when he gets to the pros. ang problema nya ay conditioning. mukhang mabilis syang hingalin, kaya madalas syang maiwan pag uptempo ang laro ng henkel-sista. coach caloy garcia has adopted a more wide-open, freewheeling attack ever since fil-am sensation ryan reyes arrived, and i think that coach caloy's decision to go to his more mobile frontliners to complement reyes and shooter ronnie matias is the reason for eman's diminished minutes.

swaggerbox
05-26-2007, 07:26 AM
Welcoat didn't want to trade their 2007 first round pick (last off-season for Rommel Adducul) for a reason. They are hellbent to build their future around Jay-R Reyes and Samigue Eman. With no assurance of getting the first pick overall (because of the lottery system in place), Welcoat is doing everything to ensure that Eman stays in their backyard, even if it means benching him to pry him away from several scouts' eyes. I've watched countless of games in the PBL, in the CCL Qualifier, and in past international meets starring Eman and all I can say is, he is one freak of nature. While his game is still raw (no go-to move, shot may be blocked by smaller men, or may be outrebounded by athletic guards - hey, big men usually take time to develop), he has a package (size, athleticism, coordination, shotblocking ability) that will be hard to overlook. I have heard about his lack of work ethic (which probably explains his slow progress in the last five years) but if someone can light a fire on him and make him realize his potential, he could be downright scary.

pachador
06-19-2007, 01:08 AM
Barbell training of Bisayan giant 6'10" Eman Samigue from Mindanao , update June 17, 2007

From: PEX forum

Jun 17, 2007, 04:41 AM*
pachador

to bchemist:* well, i understand your the trainor of Eman. i have some questions:
1.) is he where you would like him to be in terms of strength, speed and explosiveness?
2.) whats your opinion on why his performance is not so good in the PBL ?
3.) whats the "real" height difference between eman and Thoss? since you see both of them up close?
4.) do you feel that Eman will eventually reach the level of Thoss? or maybe surpass thoss? or does Eman have some real limatations in terms of motor skills , aggrresiveness and other factors?
5.) are there any good gyms or trainors in cebu who can train the new 6'11" Slaughter kid?
Thanks for your inputs

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Bchemist's answer:
Jun 17, 2007, 01:22 PM
Bchemist

Location: Eclipsegym.com Quote:
Originally Posted by pachador*
well, i understand your the trainor of Eman. i have some questions:
1.) is he where you would like him to be in terms of strength, speed and explosiveness?

Short term: No. He got a severe bronchial infection in early December which short-circuited his training. I sent him to a specialist in Makati after he consulted with one of my members who is a doctor whose opinion I trust greatly, and is also a very well conditioned athlete himself. They both said he needed to just do active rest (meaning walking around the malls and just light shooting when he had the energy) for at least a month before he could begin his training again. Even when he came back, he didn't have the lung capacity to train or play at 100%. His Henkel coaches, and even the coach that signed with us yesterday said that Eman has improved dramatically, even with limited minutes and his illness recovery.

He has, however, returned to about 90% of where I had him last November. I trained him last week and am training him later today. I expect to increase his strength in the clean by 20% and his work capacity by 30% (based on tonnage/time) by the time the pre-draft tryouts begin in 2 months.

Long term: Yes...but he has a 2-3 years before his full potential is revealed. He needs to add about 30lbs of muscle (useful muscle that is meaning legs, back, abs, delts) and increase his reaction time/first-step to about .3-.4 seconds.

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Originally Posted by pachador*
2.) whats your opinion on why his performance is not so good in the PBL ?

See above for the partial answer. The second part of the answer is that he steadily improved, especially toward the end of the season as the Sealers gelled as a team and his playing-time increased (as well as his health was improved). This comes from first-hand observation of his coaches that I know.

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Originally Posted by pachador*
3.) whats the "real" height difference between eman and Thoss? since you see both of them up close?

They've trained at the same time and have spoken face to face in front of me, but I didn't have them do a back-to-back comparison* I'd estimate that Sonny is about 2-3" shorter than Sam...so the stats are accurate. Sonny weighs about 245lbs while Sam weighs about 240, so Sam needs to gain about 30lbs to be as "wide" as Sonny.
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Originally Posted by pachador*
4.) do you feel that Eman will eventually reach the level of Thoss? or maybe surpass thoss? or does Eman have some real limatations in terms of motor skills , aggrresiveness and other factors?

The raw level? Yes. The same level? No, since Sam is a Center and Sonny is more of a forward. I believe that they will both eventually move on to international competition and play at their true position there.

Give Sam time and you'll see his true potential once he reaches 100% in his health (that's the key) and his strength and conditioning.

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Originally Posted by pachador*
5.) are there any good gyms or trainors in cebu who can train the new 6'11" Slaughter kid?
Thanks for your inputs

I honestly have no idea. We've had guys from Cebu come up and visit our facilities who train basketball players, and the first thing they ask is "When are you coming to Cebu?" If the player is smart, he'll contact someone who can hook him up with a scholarship to study up here with room and board. Heck, I even have a place for him to stay that's safe and secure as long as a school could provide him a tutor.

I appreciate the questions...thanks!


Jun 17, 2007, 01:25 PM
Bchemist


Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Eclipsegym.com Quote:
Originally Posted by rhk111*
I have an interesting question for you, too.

I just noticed that since the year 2000, the country HAS been blessed w/ players who are at least 6'7" at our collegiate level. In fact, am trying to gather these names, just so we can see how many there really are.

However, none of those guys ended up DOMINATING the collegiate leagues. They ended up as nothing but novelties.

What do you think is wrong, why did those tall players NOT make it big in Philippine basketball?

What do you think will help reverse that trend?

The answer is the same thing that the NBA scouts have been saying: They lack the proper strength and conditioning. In other words, they need to be much stronger, physical, and explosive through proper training in order to maximize or even scratch the surface of their potential.
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Jun 17, 2007, 04:04 PM*
pachador


Join Date: Mar 2007

Hi bchemist,

We are really greatful for your answers about Eman. You just don't know how nervous or should I say aprehensive thousands if not millions of hardcore filipino bball fans are about who will replace Taulava in the RP national team when he gets older and slower in a few years. At one point, Eman was one of the big hopes, but many fans have become dissapointed with his performance. that you hear rumors he has an attitude problem or he is lazy . guys like Eman and SLaughter are literally 'crown jewels' of philippine basketball. Hopefully trainers like you will maximize their potential. ., and they need to have strong mentors to protect them from vices, drugs, bad or potentially unhygienic food such as the ones sold on the sidewalk, etc.. hope you post here regularly about eman's progress. Thanks again


Jun 17, 2007, 08:08 PM*
Bchemist
Head Coach aka The Sheriff


Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Eclipsegym.com Quote:


Oh yea...I was a Naval Aviator and trained student pilots at NAS-CC from late '99-2003, so I'm familiar with these techniques....plus many more that you cannot buy online...so you can rest assured that guys like Eman are getting some mental training as well as physical* Mental training is very much a part of the game in all sports such as visualization, spatial orientation, and then creative visualization when you are off the court and should be rehearsing in your mind.

Sam did well today. I am deloading his cleans with the goal to peak him at 105kg to further increase his first step. His top weights of 85kg went up like a feather, and he was able to correct his feet from moving to the sides (like a side split motion) at the end of the clean. Our new Ivanko bars are a big help since the smaller bar diameter greatly helps him focus less on the grip and "zone out" so that he can trust his instincts.

He completed 10,800lbs of relative tonnage in his squat training in 13 minutes and it looked easy. Everybody else just stared in awe...so you can rest assured that he is 95% recovered at this point. I hope to get him to 14,000+lbs of tonnage in the same time interval by draft day tryouts. His push jerk is around 7,500lbs of tonnage in an equal interval and he only rested about 5 minutes in-between squats and the push jerk.

Just because we need to do it for the draft scouts, we tested his push-ups immediately after doing the push-jerks and he got 30 reps! That's amazing. This means that he'd probably get at least 60-70 reps if he was rested, and we've never done push-ups in training...again, just doing them since the league wants to see it as a "test". Remember how long Sam's arms are, so he is at a big disadvantage vs. guys with shorter arms. My goal for him is to get at least 80 proper push-ups by draft day, even if we are training in an indirect way.

Sam is a very smart and cerebral player...in fact, he's possibly the smartest player I've ever coached, whether here or abroad. He wants to win, and he wants to win bad. It's all or nothing for him. If he wanted the money, he could have entered the draft last year and some team probably would have picked him up. But he took the risk of waiting since he knows that winning is more fulfilling than getting a quick payday. He knows that big paydays are a "side-effect" of preparation. He had his setbacks, but he's primed. You are going to be happily amazed by what Sam will be able to do when he's at 100% on draft day.
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Wang-Bu
07-18-2007, 09:04 AM
Hindi na ba ito hinihingal si Eman kapag transition?

Naalala ko nga pala mga limang taon na ang nakalipas nung hindi pa siya gaano sikat at siguro nasa 6'7" pa "lang" siya nuon, nakalaro ko siya kasama ang ibang Ilonggo na Warriors gaya nina Wowie Ibanez at Migs Pinat. Awa ni bathala tinakbuhan lang namin at binangga-bangga nung bandang third quarter na dahil hingal na hingal na siya, ayun talo sila.

Nitong mga huling pagkakataon nakita ko siya sa PBL mukhang hingalin pa din siya.

thadzonline
08-29-2012, 11:58 PM
maybe he's got some more left in his tank:
http://philippinebasketballreview.blogspot.com/2012/08/too-early-to-call-samigue-eman-bust.html