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5FootCarrot
04-20-2007, 07:57 AM
We have an "Ateneo in the NCAA" thread in the BEN and it's generated a lot of interest. I thought it would be nice to have a thread to discuss in general NCAA greats and games of yore so no one has to worry about being off-topic in the Ateneo forum.

Have at it, ladies and gentlemen! :)

MonL
04-20-2007, 06:07 PM
I was there when Game 14 happened. Here's what I recall of that time:

In 1976, then defending champion Ateneo was on the verge of winning the NCAA Seniors basketball championship via a two round sweep. Back then there was no three point shot, or role playing as we know it today such as point guard, power forward, or One to Five Spots. You were either a guard, forward or center, and can even be a hybrid, i.e, center-forward, guard-forward, even guard-center. A multi-position player would be called a "utility."

The Blue Eagles had a formidable lineup composed of 6'2" forward Steve Watson, 6'3" center-forward Bernardo "Joy" Carpio, 6'0" guard Matthew "Fritz" Gaston, 6'3" utility* Federico "Padim" Israel, 5'11" guard Louie Rabat, 6'2" center Maling Estrella, Eu Puyat, among others.

The Red Lions countered with veteran 5'10 guards* Chuck Barreiro and Alberto "Totoy" Gagan, the 5'9" Guzman Twins, Noel and Joel, 6'3" rookie center Abe King, sweet shooting 6'2" rookie forward Ber Martin, 6'2" rookie forward-center Joaquin "Chito" Loyzaga, among others.

The Eagles handily drubbed the Lions in the first round, and bowled over the rest of the NCAA teams in the second round to set the stage for a possible 14-game sweep and outright winning all the marbles.

No team in the NCAA at that point had ever swept both rounds and finished the season undefeated, and the Lions were in Ateneo's way with their date with history.

The game was held at the Araneta Coliseum. Back then this stadium could seat 30,000. On that historic day, it was packed to the rafters.

The game was closely fought, with no team getting way ahead. It all boiled down to the last minute. Ateneo had just tied the game, 75-all, 30 seconds left. A long inbounds pass was caught by Ber Martin near the top of the key, and Ber let fly with a straight-up midrange jumper that hit nothing but net. The Red Lion gallery exploded at that point, and the Lions led, 77-75, fifteen seconds left.* An Ateneo inbounds pass was caught by Chuck Barreiro at midcourt, and he was fouled, time down to seven seconds. He was given two foul shots, and the Lion faithful exploded with cheers each time Chuck sank his charities, while the Eagle spectators watched on in stunned silence. A quick Ateneo inbound and score pegged the final game score at 79-77, and San Beda swept the Second Round to set the stage for a Best-of-Three series. Though Ateneo would* be denied a historic first ever sweep, they would keep the NCAA Seniors Basketball crown that year via 2-0 shutout in the finals.

MonL
04-21-2007, 02:43 AM
In 1977, the Ateneo Blue Eagles were poised to attempt another shot at NCAA history by trying to be the first team to win three straight postwar NCAA crowns. They fielded practically the same team from 1976: Steve Watson, Joy Carpio, Matthew Gaston, Padim Israel, Maling Estrella, guards Louie Rabat and Eu Puyat, forwards Bambi Kabigting and Manolito Valdez, among the more known players. Up from the Blue Eaglets was star player Ogie Narvasa. Legendary coach Baby Dalupan, who steered Ateneo’s back-to-back, relinquished the reins to his assistant, Adriano “Bong” Go.

And what happened to the Red Lions? Bruising 6-3 center Abe King left San Beda to play commercial league ball, and eventually carved out a brilliant career in the PBA. Spitfire guard Totoy Gagan had played out his eligibility and had moved on. Bedan Great Caloy Loyzaga had gone on to coach pro ball on and was replaced by another Bedan basketball legend, Loreto “Bonnie” Carbonell.

The carryovers from that great 1976 team were Chuck Barreiro, Chito Loyzaga and Ber Martin, Joel and twin brother Noel Guzman, 5-11 guard-forwards Ding Castaneda, Frankie Lim and Ric Dabu, and 6-2 relief center Glenn Manzano.

The new recruits over the summer then were 5-9 guard Cholo Martin, 5-10 guard Luis Brill, 6-0 forwards John Lizaso, Al Alipante and Jun De Jesus.

But there was no one yet recruited to fill in the shoes of the powerful Abe King.

When school year 1977 opened, everyone was guarded about the chances of the Red Lions. Clearly, the Blue Eagles were the favorites to win it all.

During that year’s NCAA Pep Rally we were introduced to that final piece in the Red Lions’ puzzle: the emcee introduced him to us as:

* *“Ang kapalit ni Abe King.........JOSEEEEEEEE YANGOOOOOOO!!!!!!!”

As cheers exploded and hopes were raised once again, I took a look at the Heir Apparent. I noted that Jayvee Yango was reed-thin, and a little hunched, making him appear shorter than his listed height of 6-3. I thought then that he was less than the player Abe King was. Little did I know.

On Opening Day at the Araneta Coliseum, I witnessed a portent of things to come. The Lions played the MIT Cardinals.* Yango, though a rookie, displayed a tremendous fighting heart. I was seated way up in the bleachers and I could hear the snap of the ball in his hands as he FOUGHT for rebounds against Mapua’s frontline.

San Beda swept the first round by defeating Ateneo in the final game. The Eagles were without Watson, Carpio and Gaston, who were with the RP Youth Team in Kuwait with the Lions’ own Chuck Barreiro. Ateneo’s Big Three returned in the second round and the Eagles defeated the Red Lions to force a best-of three series.
In Game 1, the Eagles won, 105-99, as Watson routed Chito Loyzaga, 47-6 in scoring. Victory and NCAA glory was within the Eagles’ grasp.

In Game 2, Bonnie Carbonell ordered a slow-it-down, high percentage style of play, and the Lions won, 71-68, to set the stage for a last stand.

Game 3 was played behind closed doors in a near-empty Araneta Coliseum as spectator violence in Game 2 forced the fans out and the nation watched history take place on television.

The game was nip and tuck all the way, with the Lions battling through several ties and lead changes all throughout. Backup center Glenn Manzano led the way with sixteen points; Cholo Martin shot timely midrange jumpers, Chito Loyzaga, Ber Martin, the Guzman Twins and Chuck Barreiro made timely hits; the Lions muzzled Watson, who wasn’t able to duplicate his 47-point nuclear explosion in Game 1.

But the end was reserved for Jayvee Yango.

The final moments of the game was a pressure cooker, with Manzano fouled out and all the principal Lion players loaded with four fouls. Ateneo scored and led 75-74 on Louie Rabat twin charities with less than a minute left. San Beda had wilted in situations like this before, but now they stood their ground and capitalized on the breaks which came their way. Yango sank twin charities to pull the Lions ahead, 76-75. The Eagles had one last stab in the dying seconds of the game when Manolito Valdez drove down the lane but he was called for a charging foul against Al Alipante. Yango sank a charity to peg the final score at 77-75, and to end sixteen years of frustration for the Red Lions.

MonL
04-21-2007, 03:00 AM
It was 1978. The Red Lions were the defending NCAA Senior Basketball Champions. Ateneo had already left for the UAAP, but Dela Salle’s Green Archers and the Letran Knights stepped up to take a shot at the title. It was during this time that the Lions made their own bid for NCAA history by trying to sweep the tournament, but lost to pressure and the Knights in their twelfth and final game of the regular season. By having identical 5-1 records in the second round, San Beda, Letran and Dela Salle went into sudden death playoff matches, with the Lions exacting sweet revenge on the Knights in a bruising, fight-marred match and later defeating the Green Archers in a classic final game to win the 1978 championship.

But probably the most dramatic game that I watched during that season was the penultimate Game #11 wherein the then still undefeated Lions played the Green Archers. I judged it as the best game that year because of what happened in the last five seconds of the game.

The shoe was now on the other foot; the Red Lions had the deepest bench in the NCAA at that time; and practically everyone wanted to knock them down from the top of the hill.

San Beda was bannered by its carryovers from the 1977 champion team: Jayvee Yango, Chuck Barreiro, Ber Martin, Chito Loyzaga, the Guzman Twins, Noel and Joel, Luis Brill, Ric Dabu, Cholo Martin and Frankie Lim. The new recruits were 6-1 forward Elmer Reyes, 6-3 center Rolly Evangelista, 5-11 guard Manuel Manosa, and former Red Cubs 6-1 guard Gabby Lim, and 6-2 center Albert Bregendahl.

Dela Salle was powered mainly by its sweet shooting 6-2 forward Kenneth Yap, 5-9 spitfire guard Alex Marquez, point guard Gabby Liwag, 6-3 forward Aldo Perez, 6-0 guard Joel Uichico, and their powerful 6-3 RP Youth center Jay Lucido. Other players of note were guards William Ting and Elmo Tong, Greg Bichara and 6-3 former Red Cub center Eugene Navarrette. The Archers then were coached by Joaquin “Wacky” Trillo.

It was a fiercely fought match, with furious ties and lead exchanges. La Salle’s Kenneth Yap and Alex Marquez carried the scoring load, with Lucido manning the frontline; the trio was supported by Perez and Uichico. The Lions got great games from Barreiro and the Guzman Twins; Yango and Loyzaga battled La Salle’s big men all throughout.

With about ten seconds to go, Jayvee Yango grabbed a mighty rebound and made a putback bucket to put the Lions ahead by a point, 88-87, and the Bedan gallery exploded with cheers; and all the spectators from both schools watching at the Rizal Coliseum stood up for a thrilling end. The game wasn’t over yet, as La Salle made a last-ditch all-out push to win the game.

The Archers quickly inbounded to a fastbreaking Alex Marquez who quickly speeded downcourt to challenge the still forming Red Lions defense. As he drove in for a layup with two seconds left, from out of nowhere center Rolly Evangelista leaped straight high up and blocked his shot, and* Barreiro collared the loose ball and held on to it for dear life as time expired.* Bedlam ensued at the Rizal Coliseum that afternoon, and the Red Lions passed through a wringer to keep their slate clean for the time being.

Scores:
SBC 88 - Yango 28, Loyzaga 18, NGuzman 10,* Barreiro 10, JGuzman 10, BMartin 4, Evangelista 4, FLim 2, CMartin 2

DLSU 87 – Marquez 24, Lucido 21, Yap 14, Perez 12, Uichico 10, Liwag 4, Tong 0, Ting 0, Navarrete 0

Paul of Bataan
04-21-2007, 12:38 PM
MORE, MORE, MORE PLEASE!

christian
04-21-2007, 12:55 PM
Thanks! Ngayon ko lang nalaman yung story ng '78 champion team :)

bchoter
04-21-2007, 03:03 PM
Meron ka pa bang ma-sh-share tito MonL?

MonL
04-21-2007, 03:21 PM
Meron ka pa bang ma-sh-share tito MonL?


Anong "tito" MonL? :D

Mamaya. Working on SBC-Letran, Game 12 in 1978.

ESCALERA JR.
04-21-2007, 03:57 PM
Looking back, 4 schools dominated the NCAA in that 70's era with Ateneo, San Beda, La Salle and Letran having won at least 2 titles.

As a tradition, the Letran Knights usually opened or ended the decade with a championship (1950,1960,1970)... 1980 would have been another KNIGHT'S year had the league not been suspended due to the Lasalle/Letran riots.

The GREEN ARCHERS 2 crowns in the early 70's ('71 &'74) was led by sweet shooting LIM ENG BENG. This guy really shot the lights out of the Rizal Coliseum, scoring highs of 40-50 pg. Pitted against Letran's Ricky Pineda who also scored 56 pts. in a single game, both players scorched the ring and nets with their outside shots. Kung may 3 pts shot lang noon, malamang nag high ng 70 ang mga yan.

In the mid 70's ('75 & '76) it was handily won by the Glamour boys of ATENEO. Steve Watson was a real standout during those days and so were the whole Blue Eagle community. I recall the Eaglets also winning the Junior Basketball crowns back to back.

The prospect of a rare clean sweep and/or a 3-peat was a looming possibility for the Blue Eagles then. But on both occasions were foiled by a determined San Beda Red Lions side. *As MonL recounted earlier, Ateneo only needed 1 more win to bag the crown with an immaculate 12 Win - 0 Loss slate. The Lions would not permit them and played KJ. *It was the same story the following year when gunning for a grandslam, San Beda would block their way.

Then came the SAN BEDA Red Lions turn to become King of the NCAA in '77 by winning the close-door championship match and eventually snatching the title away from Ateneo. The following season in '78, the Red Lions were stamping their class and picking up wins like apples with center JV Yango and burly Chito Loyzaga leading the way. The Bedan community were savouring NCAA Basketball pride as their Red Cubs earlier pocketed the Junior Championship.

No more Ateneo team to beat this time after the Eagles flew over to the UAAP, but still there were a bunch of *proud Green Archers of Lasalle and the Knights of Letran to contend with.

Funny, but when it was San Beda's turn to clinch that rare clean sweep and/or 3-peat, it was the Letran Knights playing joker this time around. With JV Yango and Chito Loyazaga starring, it was almost near to impossible to derail the Lions onslaught. But pressure was a different foe. They succumbed to the Knights heads up game and gave San Beda their only loss that season. However, they bounced back right after and won their 2nd crown.

After securing back to back titles, a third crown for the Red Lions became a possibility too. But only if the galloping Knights would permit it. The Letran team of '79 was now ripe for the title and already jelling like a well oiled machine. This was the time of streak shooting Itoy Esguerra and hulkingTim Coloso who later on joined the Crispa Redmanizers and Toyota Comets in the PBA respectively.

As it was almost nearing the end of the decade, by tradition, Letran again was scheduled for NCAA glory. But alas, the 1980 Archers - Knights *match-up ended season prematurely as riots-marred games rock the season.

1970, 1979 LETRAN KNIGHTS
1971,1974 *LA SALLE GREEN ARCHERS
1975, 1976 ATENEO BLUE EAGLES
1977,1978 SAN BEDA RED LIONS

...1972 JRC HEAVY BOMBERS
...1973 SSC STAGS

MonL
04-21-2007, 07:10 PM
As promised: Through a Bedan's Eyes: SBC-Letran, Game 12, 1978 Season

After surviving DLSU in game #11 via an 88-87 squeaker, The 1978 defending champion Red Lions were poised to do what no other NCAA senior team has done before: Close out the season via a two-round sweep. At the time, winning both rounds was enough to win the crown. A season-ending sweep has been attempted many times before, the last one being by the Ateneo Blue Eagles in 1976 and spoiled by these very same Red Lions. No one had ever succeeded.

Now the roles have changed. It was the Lions’ time to try. The Red Cubs had earlier swept both rounds and won the Juniors crown. In the Lions’ hands was the chance to do a much rarer achievement in the NCAA: an undefeated season in both divisions by one school. Double sweep, double championships.

However, facing them was the rough and rugged Letran Knights. The were led by by their 6’2” scoring machine Angelito “Itoy” Esguerra, 5’8” cherubic shooting guard Pedrito “Bong” Aninon, 6’0” star guard Ramon San Juan, 6’1” playmaker Ed Baldomero, 6’0" team captain Richard Young, dark and rugged 6’2” center Ted McKinney, 6’3” former Red Cub Tony de Leon, 5’10” “man of bronze” Ramon Navales, 6’2 forward Valenzuela, 6’1” former Juniors scoring machine Erwin Bola-bola, and 6’2” rookie bruiser Tim Coloso.

Rizal Memorial Coliseum was packed one Saturday afternoon; the atmosphere was highly charged.

At the onset, the Letran gallery went all-out for their team. With their brass band leading the way, the Knights were shepherded first on court by a real knight in full metal armor, sword in hand. That got the crowd pumped up. The Knights seemed to have jumped higher, shot better and looked more focused. Ted McKinney was throwing down slam dunks during his warm-ups.

The Lions were equally as determined that day. The gallery played The Red and the White to welcome the Lions on court. Yango and Evangelista were slamming in the warmups, with the smaller players touching the ring to display superb conditioning, focus and the swagger of champions.

The stakes were high. San Beda, having swept the first round, was one win away from history.* But the Knights, having been beaten by La Salle earlier, needed a win to force a triple tie for first place, enter a sudden-death playoff for the second round flag and a chance for a best-of-three finals series.

For the Knights, there was no tomorrow. And that made them very dangerous opponents.

And San Beda faced a new obstacle: pressure.

It became apparent as the Knights raced ahead on the long-range sniping of Itoy Esguerra, who was constantly fed on the wings by his buddy and spear-carrier Ed Baldomero. Aninon’s high-arching long range bombs would have been PBA-range 3-pointers.* Richard Young and Mon San Juan, who would be MVP a year later, epitomized the image of gentlemen Knights but they also sustained Letran’s high-powered offense and rugged defense. But the Knights’ biggest surprise that day was backup center Tony de Leon. Slow and lumbering, he held his own against Yango and Loyzaga and scattered 12 very visible points in that game.

Letran’s ruggedness became apparent in the first few minutes of the game when Yango was suddenly pulled back to the bench after showing an unusual display of rage and loss of self-control after receiving roughhousing from the Knights’ McKinney down low.* Esguerra, Baldomero, Navales, Coloso and Bolabola were the more noted physical players, and their intimidation tactics took their toll on the Red Lions.* *

The Lions’ offense was out of synch, and they missed shots they regularly make. They bled for every point, and they fell behind by double digit deficits for most of the game.

The only Lion who had a good game then was guard Luis Brill. With about ten minutes remaining in the second half, he single handedly led a Red Lion rally with his medium range sniping and dropped 10 points, brought the Knights’ lead down to about seven points and lifted the spirits of the gallery. But that was the height of the Lions’ rally as the Knights clamped down and continued with their surprisingly deadly offense until the end.* Esguerra led all scorers then with 26 points, mostly taken from way out.

The Bedan crowd watched on with stunned silence as the Knights and their gallery celebrated in utter pandemonium. The Knights thwarted history. But more important for them, they were still alive.

For the Lions and their faithful, the medicine they gave before which they now took was bitter indeed. Redemption would come another day. For now, it’s time to slink back home to heal these wounds.

Kid Cubao
04-21-2007, 08:32 PM
great accounts. wow. thank you, monL and escalera jr.

ESCALERA JR.
04-22-2007, 12:16 AM
Sometime in the mid-70's (as a very, verrrry young kid then ;D) i recall watching a couple of Ateneo - La Salle games live at the Araneta Coliseum.

Yes guys, even during those days, everytime these two exclusive boys schools with predominantly male students would clash, it was a sure hit.

As usual, the coliseum, be it the Rizal Memorial or Araneta, would always be jampacked to the rafters with their students, supporters, and then generously backed-up by their respective alumni. It already was tagged as 'Dream Games' noon pa man.

La Salle, then still a College (DLSC), was always a crowd favourite owing to their strong line-up that eventually bagged the NCAA title and also having won the crown 2 seasons earlier in '71. Honestly, hindi ko maalala ang mga iba pang players nila...(baka si Tito MonL o Tito LION naaalala...diba mga tito ;D), except Lim Eng Beng.

Being only a school boy with just my parents as my source of money, i contented myself watching it on the farthest corners of the bleachers area. Kung hindi naman, eh sa TV na lang ako.

If there is one thing that is vividly etched in my memory, it is the baritone voice of the late JOE CANTADA, who was doing the play by play chores. Magaling siya kahit medyo bias pag laro ng Ateneo being a former Atenean.

The NCAA Basketball Games never ceases to amaze me up to this very moment. Kahit wala na ang Ateneo and La Salle,i still watch these dream match-up sa kabilang liga which is now touted as the better or glamourous league. Its true, during their days the NCAA was considered as the more Glamourous league compared to the UAAP. Watching the colorful Openings and exciting championship games is a must for every die hard student of years gone by.

MonL
04-22-2007, 05:54 PM
La Salle, then still a College (DLSC), was always a crowd favourite owing to their strong line-up that eventually bagged the NCAA title and also having won the crown 2 seasons earlier in '71. Honestly, hindi ko maalala ang mga iba pang players nila...(baka si Tito MonL o Tito LION naaalala...diba mga tito ;D), except Lim Eng Beng.



Nako, sasabihin lang nyan di pa siya pinapanganak nung sumikat si Lim Eng Beng...... :D

More noted Green Archers then was center Doy Escober ('71), and from their '74 team: guard Peter Ley, 6'2" center Billy Johnston (dad of College of St. Benilde's* 6'2' forward William Johnston), Dennis Gonzales, 6'3'' Edgar Dizon, Henry Brodett, Titong Sagarbarria, Greg Rastrullo.

Later on, 6'5'' Roy Joseph Connolly ('76-77) made waves, though in other matters ouside the court.* *:)

My older brother studied Engineering at DLSC then, and he would bring home issues of The LaSallian. I recall well-written accounts of Archer games. Vivid to me was the account of the DLSC-JRC game. Next time, I'll try to post what I remember of it.*

Kid Cubao
04-22-2007, 06:53 PM
basta ang masasabi ko'y sikat si connolly nung martial law ;D

ESCALERA JR.
04-22-2007, 09:32 PM
^ hahaha correct ka! Parang alam ko na kung bakit at kung sino yun ;D

Back to topic...what about the other member schools that were able to get a shot at NCAA glory.

JRC HEAVY BOMBERS 0F '72* - Amongst the members of this champion team, most notable were the CEZAR Brothers but it was PHILIP who went on to scale greater heights than the younger David. As we all know, Philip made a name for himself in the then newly formed PBA as a member of the fabled Crispa Redmanizers.

Other players worth mentioning was the towering Ed Carvajal and also Cris Calilan.

SAN SEBASTIAN STAGS 1973 Champions - One of the new member schools then in the NCAA family, the SSC Golden Stags or BASTE as it was called then until now, was the youngest team to have won the NCAA, copping its first title in just 4 Seasons.* However, that distinction is now relinquished to the CSB BLAZERS for having won a title in only its 3rd year.

JAIME OTAZU and DAVID SUPNET were the leading names in this STAG team.

Another new team that suddenly entered the league in the 70's but abruptly exited were the TRINITY College STALLIONS. However short their stint, they were able to produce a good player in the name of ZALDY LATOZA.

sa mga pinagsususulat kong ito, hindi kaya ako ang pinaka bata dito sa gameface !* ;D ???

Wala na bang hihirit sa dekada 60's or may buhay pa kayang magsusulat sa dekada 50's ;D

LION
04-23-2007, 08:29 AM
La Salle, then still a College (DLSC), was always a crowd favourite owing to their strong line-up that eventually bagged the NCAA title and also having won the crown 2 seasons earlier in '71. Honestly, hindi ko maalala ang mga iba pang players nila...(baka si Tito MonL o Tito LION naaalala...diba mga tito ;D), except Lim Eng Beng.




tito Escalera, I'm still a young lion. :)

OT : How are you related to tito and vic sotto a.k.a. the escalera brothers? Pareho kasi kayong mga tiga Letran? :)

ESCALERA JR.
04-23-2007, 09:27 AM
Mga kuyang ko mga iyon...ako ang kanilang bunsoy ;D :D

Any NCAA trivia in the 70's tito LION?

LION
04-23-2007, 09:34 AM
Wala talaga eh. Lagpas kalendaryo na ang edad ko pero pasok pa rin sa lotto. Promise. Si tito MonL at sitsirya lang ang pwedeng mag kwento about the 70's. ;D

oca
04-23-2007, 11:18 AM
Eto ang hirap sa thread na ito. What you say or may say is equated to your age. :D :D :D

Eh, paano yan pag ibinahagi ko yung panahon ni Charlie Badion. Kapit-bahay yan ng Lolo ko kaya marami akong alam na kwento...tapos sasabihin ninyo kapanahunan ko! >:( >:( >:(

lekiboy
04-23-2007, 11:24 AM
Eto ang hirap sa thread na ito. What you say or may say is equated to your age.* :D :D :D

Eh, paano yan pag ibinahagi ko yung panahon ni Charlie Badion. Kapit-bahay yan ng Lolo ko kaya marami akong alam na kwento...tapos sasabihin ninyo kapanahunan ko!* >:( >:( >:(


no - di ka namin aalaskahin...yung kapitbahay mo lang....o sige - kwento mo na oca... ;D

LION
04-23-2007, 11:37 AM
Eto ang hirap sa thread na ito. What you say or may say is equated to your age.* :D :D :D

Eh, paano yan pag ibinahagi ko yung panahon ni Charlie Badion. Kapit-bahay yan ng Lolo ko kaya marami akong alam na kwento...tapos sasabihin ninyo kapanahunan ko!* >:( >:( >:(


;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

We will accept your disclaimer pareng Oca.

ESCALERA JR.
04-23-2007, 08:02 PM
Wala talaga eh. Lagpas kalendaryo na ang edad ko pero pasok pa rin sa lotto. Promise.* *Si tito MonL at sitsirya lang ang pwedeng mag kwento about the 70's.* * ;D


hALOS magkalapit pala tayo...ako nman lagpas na sa lotto, pero konti lang.

What about the 80's? Is there anything memorable during that decade in the RL camp then?...aAko maraming maikukwento pero wag na lang baka maging bias ako. :D

MonL
04-24-2007, 07:21 AM
Eto ang hirap sa thread na ito. What you say or may say is equated to your age.* :D :D :D

Eh, paano yan pag ibinahagi ko yung panahon ni Charlie Badion. Kapit-bahay yan ng Lolo ko kaya marami akong alam na kwento...tapos sasabihin ninyo kapanahunan ko!* >:( >:( >:(


;D* ;D* ;D* ;D* ;D

We will accept your disclaimer pareng Oca.


Bring it on, Pareng Oca, at hindi kami mag-ma-mano sa iyo.

Promise. ;D

LION
04-24-2007, 07:51 AM
Wala talaga eh. Lagpas kalendaryo na ang edad ko pero pasok pa rin sa lotto. Promise.* *Si tito MonL at sitsirya lang ang pwedeng mag kwento about the 70's.* * ;D


hALOS magkalapit pala tayo...ako nman lagpas na sa lotto, pero konti lang.

What about the 80's? Is there anything memorable during that decade in the RL camp then?...aAko maraming maikukwento pero wag na lang baka maging bias ako. :D*


Ahhhhh. Super lotto yung sa iyo. :)

Yung 80's kasi may selective memory kami. Basta ang natatandaan namin lahat ng players namin nun mga gwapings. Pero ang win-loss record namin during the 80's e hindi namin matandaan. Bakit kaya? ;D

danny
04-25-2007, 01:33 AM
Pang 1950's si Mastech.

Wala bang pwedeng magkwento ng pang 1930's. ;D



Thanks Escalera for the Letran perspective of the old school NCAA! Arriba!

danny
04-25-2007, 01:35 AM
Eto ang hirap sa thread na ito. What you say or may say is equated to your age.* :D :D :D

Eh, paano yan pag ibinahagi ko yung panahon ni Charlie Badion. Kapit-bahay yan ng Lolo ko kaya marami akong alam na kwento...tapos sasabihin ninyo kapanahunan ko!* >:( >:( >:(


1930's, oca, ano bang kwento ang iyong nasagap?

ESCALERA JR.
04-25-2007, 05:30 PM
Pang 1950's si Mastech.

Wala bang pwedeng magkwento ng pang 1930's. ;D



Thanks Escalera for the Letran perspective of the old school NCAA! Arriba!

You're welcome danny... its a pleasure sharing some 70' trivias i actually was able to witness first-hand together w tito monL & tito Lion, di ba mga titos ;D

pero kung 30's, malabo na ata yan, kelangan pa siguro pumunta sa letran library at halukayin ang inaalikabok ng archives. 60's pa baka pwedeng maalala, eto...

As earlier recounted, the start of that decade saw the Knights emerging again as NCAA kings (last time was 1950 then 1970)...medyo nasingitan lang ng Letran team midway, which was coined the 'Spirit of '66. The players then were the young Larry Albano and Nemie Villegas. These 2 later became Letan coaches and were able to steer the Knights to 4 championships between them...1 with Villegas in'79 while Albano was at the helm of the Samboy Lim- Ang tandem that won the first 3peat in postwar NCAA.

Kung akala ninyo tahimik noon, HINDI. There was a time the league was suspended in the early 60' when student riots were prevalent. Protoganists were students from Mapua and (this one im not really 100% sure)...SBC?
Better check again with your grand-uncles & lolos for confirmation.

The time of King Cardinal Charlie Badion, better known for his "bicycle" lay-up. This style involves going for the basket with both legs hanging as if riding a bicycle in mid-air. Kung hahara-hara ang kalaban, tiyak may tama sa dibdib o mukha (SAGASA in short). Unfortunately this also turned out to be his downfall when he injured himself and in the process cut short his basketball career.

The JRC Heavy Bombers were having a heyday then winning at least 2 titles in the late 60's with actors Leroy Salvador and Rosemarie Sonorra as permanent fixture in their gallery...was even made popular with their dancing cheerleaders and swaying drum and bugle bands.

Other noted players then aside from Badion were...
DAve Brodett, Tata Carranceja of SBC Cubs and RL
Freddie Webb, Joe Bolido of Letran
Sixto Agbay of JRC
Baby Boy Morales, Marte Samson, Francis Arnaiz and Joy Cleofas of Ateneo.

c 8) 8)l diba!

danny
04-26-2007, 02:17 AM
Wala talaga eh. Lagpas kalendaryo na ang edad ko pero pasok pa rin sa lotto. Promise.* *Si tito MonL at sitsirya lang ang pwedeng mag kwento about the 70's.* * ;D


hALOS magkalapit pala tayo...ako nman lagpas na sa lotto, pero konti lang.

What about the 80's? Is there anything memorable during that decade in the RL camp then?...aAko maraming maikukwento pero wag na lang baka maging bias ako. :D*


Cool retro-60s. This was probably the first time a proto-cheerdancing was introduced in the country by JRC. Rosemarie Sonora? Yan ang nagturo daw kay Atty. Saguisag kung paano sumayaw. Galing yan sa sarili niyang artikulo, ha.

Escalera, yung 80's panahon yan ng mga Models turned Red Lions, literally. Naghatak lang ng mga matatangkad na male fashion models, at sinuutan ng jersrey, ayos na. ;D

80s. Panahon ng Letran-San Sebastian yan. Sige kwento na.* :D

AnthonyServinio
04-26-2007, 12:27 PM
Freddie Webb, Joe Bolido of Letran

* * *Joe Bolido went on to work for Hong Kong Bank and led its team of "employees" to several championships in inter-bank tournaments.* I used to tag along to their games because my father was HSBC's playing coach.* From what I understand, some of my dad's teammates as well as those from the other banks were varsity players in college who finished their degree but did not get to play or play minimally in the commercial leagues at the time like the MICAA or PBA.* Since they have a degree, they landed jobs in the banking industry.

WampumTribe
04-30-2007, 07:15 PM
Any stories about Letran's fabled "Murder, Inc." squad of the 60s?

ESCALERA JR.
04-30-2007, 09:05 PM
Any stories about Letran's fabled "Murder, Inc." squad of the 60s?


Letran's "Murder INC." was the 1950 Champion team of the legendary LAURO "The Fox" MUMAR, father to Larry Mumar, the former MICAA stalwart husband of Coney Reyes, who has a love-child w Vic Sotto.(O ayan ha maykasama pang chismiss)* ;D

The team was coined as such because that Letran team of the 50's had practically ambushed every school in the NCAA on the way to its 2nd title...(the first one was in 1938). Other noted members of the team were Louie Tabuena, Gabby Fajardo, Cuna Brothers, Tanquintic (i'm open for correction, not really sure of the names)

Here's the trivia part.* On the road to the championship, the Knights had already taken the 1st Rd. pennant and only needed to win the 2nd rd flag to automatically win the title via a clean sweep of both rounds. However, there was one more obstacle, the game against the hungry SAN BEDA RED LIONS of the great CALOY LOYZAGA teaming up with spitfire EDDIE LIM.*

That game against the RL was the only blemish in the Knights almost clean slate, though eventually Letran bagged the NCAA Crown but minus the bragging rights of winning the title with a clean sweep.

It took almost 3 decades when the tables were turned in 1978...but this time it was the Red Lions gunning for that* rare sweep with with the Knights enjoying the spoilers role.

MonL
05-09-2007, 11:58 PM
Wala bang urban legends o kuwento tungkol kay Fortunato "Atoy" Co o kaya kay Freddie Hubalde nung nasa Mapua pa sila?

Joel Banal in his time was probably the most popular Cardinal, more than future pros Leo Isaac and Armando "Jango" Arce.* He would enter the court to the cries of "Mabuhay Banal!! Mabuhay Banal!!!" He would also become a member of the powerhouse 1978 RP Youth team loaded with the likes of JVYango, Chito Loyzaga, Boni De Jesus, Elpidio Villamin, Marte Saldana, Gary Vargas, Jay Lucido, etc.*

casual_observer
05-10-2007, 12:07 AM
hi! :)

sa mga "oldies" dito (yaiks! ;D ), curious lang ako kung paano maglaban ang Ateneo at ang La Salle during their NCAA days. kasing-intense ba ng labanan nila ngayon sa UAAP or mas nagma-matter yung iba nilang rivalries (Ateneo vs San Beda, La Salle vs Letran)?

ESCALERA JR.
05-10-2007, 08:30 PM
Oldies but goodies ;D

The rivalry between LaSalle and Ateneo in the NCAA were more or less of the same intensity as it is now.
Palaging puno ang Araneta lalo na during the mid-70s when the Green Archers were defending the crown they won in '74...The next 2 seasons saw the Blue Eagles reigning over their NCAA counterparts, winning back to back titles.

In that span of 2 years, it was an all Ateneo basketball show. The Blue Eagles and Eaglets were flying high, winning Jr and Sr Basketball titles.

However, the Lasallites were never far behind as the Green Archers...hindi nga nanalo sa basketbol, NCAA Overall Champions naman.

Mapua's Fortunato Co Jr and Hubalde never won the title during their varsity playing years kaya siguro wala masyadong kwento sa mga Cardinals. Pero talaga namang napakahusay ng mga bitaw ng fortune cookie nung mga panahon na iyon. SWak na swak talaga, sumasabit pa ang net sa ring. ;)

casual_observer
05-10-2007, 08:39 PM
^ oo nga naman... goodies talaga. ;D

hmmmm... it seems like the Ateneo-La Salle rivalry in the NCAA is just the same as the one in the UAAP nowadays. siguro nandoon pa din yung kanchawan at saka yung halos magbugbugan na sila. :o :D

so, anong kwento ng Cardinals? OK naman ang players nila noon pero 'di sila nananalo ng titulo? ???

lastly, the La Salle-Letran brawl... talaga nga naman o. magbarilan daw ba? ::)

ESCALERA JR.
05-10-2007, 09:17 PM
Atoy Co- Hubalde-Eric Leano...yan ang pambato ng MIT noon kayalang kinapos sa finals noon '71 against Lasalle's LimEngBeng, Julie Lim and Malixi.

Louie Rabat, Padim Israel, SteveWatson, Fritz Gaston, JoyCarpio... mga pambato ng AteneoBlue Eagles pero sinakmal ng mga Leong Frankie Lim, Chito Loyzaga, JV Yango, Chuck Barreiro na nauwi sa batuhan sa labas ng Araneta taon 1977.

Mga batang-batang pang mga Pumaren na sina Derick and Franz naman ang nakipag-salpukan kina Itoy Esguerra,Tim Coloso at Ramon SanJuan na anuwi din sa matinding kantiyawan at bugbugan sa loob ng Rizal noong 1980.

Dahil sa napakatinding school pride ng mga paaralang ito ATENEO-LASALLE-SANBEDA-LETRAN...formerly Exclusive ALL BOYS School, what do you expect....kungdi girian,kantiyawan, tuksuhan at pormahan na malimit mauwi sa "happenings" sa labas ng coliseum.

Barilan ??? wala...hndi naman totoo yan as i was there when it happened. Believe me, there were no shooting incidents...if ever there was one,it was one isolated case which happened days after...i dont want to thread on it as i may sound bias in favor of...Anyway, this was just one of the highlights then...
Pero ENJOY Talaga noon ;D

Magulo ngunit masaya din naman...kung iisipin at gugunitain. Isang buwan pa, at eto nanaman tayo, College basketball na naman...Mabuhay ang UAAP at NCAA. :D

Joescoundrel
05-11-2007, 01:11 PM
Is Tanquintic of Letran's Murder Inc that guy with the arm length of a gorilla? That was how my late dad described him... ???

ESCALERA JR.
05-11-2007, 07:37 PM
^I really have no idea...just relying on the pages of ncaa history in the school library. What im sure though is that the old Mumar is the the 'First Knight' of the famed Murder INC Letran team.

WampumTribe
05-12-2007, 09:44 PM
Louie Rabat, Padim Israel, SteveWatson, Fritz Gaston, JoyCarpio... mga pambato ng AteneoBlue Eagles pero sinakmal ng mga Leong Frankie Lim, Chito Loyzaga, JV Yango, Chuck Barreiro na nauwi sa batuhan sa labas ng Araneta taon 1977.

My uncle took us Bedan cousins to the 1977 San Beda vs. Ateneo Championship (the game we won before it moved to a closed-door venue). After the game, putok ang nuo ng uncle ko. Na-bullseye ng spark plug. Great series. Great memories (even for my uncle, his stitches nothwithstanding). Sana maulit muli. MINUS THE VIOLENCE, NATURALLY!




Dahil sa napakatinding school pride ng mga paaralang ito ATENEO-LASALLE-SANBEDA-LETRAN...formerly Exclusive ALL BOYS School, what do you expect....kungdi girian,kantiyawan, tuksuhan at pormahan na malimit mauwi sa "happenings" sa labas ng coliseum.

Yup! Kahit na Grade 2 lang ako nuon (1977) my elder cousins would always warn me to keep close and be ready for anything once we reach the parking lot. He-he-he, what fun times!




Anyway, this was just one of the highlights then...
Pero ENJOY Talaga noon ;D

Magulo ngunit masaya din naman...kung iisipin at gugunitain. Isang buwan pa, at eto nanaman tayo, College basketball na naman...Mabuhay ang UAAP at NCAA. :D

Those were great, memorable times indeed! Dekada 70 talaga ang dating!!!

irateluvmachine
07-20-2007, 10:43 PM
interesting thread. :D i used to do lots of research on the pre-PBA years of philippine basketball (in the national library's periodicals section...a dirty job but someone's gotta do it!)...unfortunately can't remember most of it, nawawala kasi yung mga notes ko dati...this thread will do good to jog my memory. :)

post pa kayo! :D these first-hand accounts from those who were actually there are quite interesting...in the meantime, i'll see if i can find my research material...or find the spare time from work to redo my research...

danny
02-08-2008, 03:18 AM
There is so much stories out there about the 1950s , 60s and 70s that have become part of the NCAA lore.

I really want to know something about the NCAA circa 1930s.

MonL
02-09-2008, 01:48 AM
There is so much stories out there about the 1950s , 60s and 70s that have become part of the NCAA lore.

I really want to know something about the NCAA circa 1930s.


Pareng Danny, I remember that the Cub Recorder issued a Diamond Jubillee issue in 1975, when I was in 2nd Year High School. I'll try to find a copy of that when I visit San Beda anytime next week, for it has some stories and even pictures of the 1930s San Beda Basketball greats below:

Many Bedans know of Charlie Borck, the "Blonde Bombshell" but he was the best known of the so called "Four Great Horsemen" of the pre-war San Beda teams, the other two members I recall being Borck's Olympic teammate Jesus Marzan and Antonio"The Speed Fiend" Carillo (I can't recall the fourth). One of them as I remember reading from the Cub didn't survive WW2.

Playing styles in the pre-war period was very different as well. The two handed set shot and the layup were the common offensive weapons; the jumpshot was not yet invented or introduced.

The center play was in vogue then. The game began with a jumpball on center court; after every successful basket made by either opponent, a jumpball was made on center court again. So if you have a very good big man then, you could dominate the center tap. Borck was 6'1".

There was no 30-second shot clock. Thus averge scores in a game were in the 10s and 20s. Team scores. :D

IIRC, there were seven players per team. The only way a player got replaced was when he got injured or fouled out. And because of the style of play back then, a seven-player team was understandable.

danny
02-10-2008, 09:45 AM
...

Dahil sa napakatinding school pride ng mga paaralang ito ATENEO-LASALLE-SANBEDA-LETRAN...formerly Exclusive ALL BOYS School, what do you expect....kungdi girian,kantiyawan, tuksuhan at pormahan na malimit mauwi sa "happenings" sa labas ng coliseum.

.....




Pareng Escalera, I've heard stories about old school bravado even during the 30s.

The happenings was not just a fixture of 50s, 60s or 70s. There were already happenings during the 1930s. :D

danny
02-12-2008, 02:32 AM
There is so much stories out there about the 1950s , 60s and 70s that have become part of the NCAA lore.

I really want to know something about the NCAA circa 1930s.


Pareng Danny, I remember that the Cub Recorder issued a Diamond Jubillee issue in 1975, when I was in 2nd Year High School. I'll try to find a copy of that when I visit San Beda anytime next week, for it has some stories and even pictures of the 1930s San Beda Basketball greats below:

Many Bedans know of Charlie Borck, the "Blonde Bombshell" but he was the best known of the so called "Four Great Horsemen" of the pre-war San Beda teams, the other two members I recall being Borck's Olympic teammate Jesus Marzan and Antonio"The Speed Fiend" Carillo (I can't recall the fourth). One of them as I remember reading from the Cub didn't survive WW2.

Playing styles in the pre-war period was very different as well. The two handed set shot and the layup were the common offensive weapons; the jumpshot was not yet invented or introduced.

The center play was in vogue then. The game began with a jumpball on center court; after every successful basket made by either opponent, a jumpball was made on center court again. So if you have a very good big man then, you could dominate the center tap. Borck was 6'1".

There was no 30-second shot clock. Thus averge scores in a game were in the 10s and 20s. Team scores. :D

IIRC, there were seven players per team. The only way a player got replaced was when he got injured or fouled out. And because of the style of play back then, a seven-player team was understandable.


I'll wait for that pre. Just saw a picture of the "Blonde Bombshell" and his fellow Bedan Olympians from the 1930s. Astig!

ESCALERA JR.
02-12-2008, 07:45 PM
...

Dahil sa napakatinding school pride ng mga paaralang ito ATENEO-LASALLE-SANBEDA-LETRAN...formerly Exclusive ALL BOYS School, what do you expect....kungdi girian,kantiyawan, tuksuhan at pormahan na malimit mauwi sa "happenings" sa labas ng coliseum.

.....




Pareng Escalera, I've heard stories about old school bravado even during the 30s.

The happenings was not just a* fixture of 50s, 60s or 70s. There were already happenings during the 1930s. :D



pareng danny, 1950's pababa eh hindi ko na inabutan tlga...promise, totoo ;D

But we had a professor in Spanish by the name of Julian Malonso (does that name ring a bell ) who always amazed us with his exploits of his heydays as a Letran Knight during pre-war era (circa '30's). He never became as popular as the 50's Lauro Mumar or mid-60's Freddie Webb, both former Olympians, pero naging Phil. Olympic President naman.

Malonso was a member of the 1938 Letran Team that won its first NCAA crown. Would you believe, he still graces the yearly Alumni homecomings and is now in his 80'...very frail but still makuli and sharped tongued.

Post war hoops were a nip and tuck battle between the Blue Eagles and the Red Lions. Wala pa sa eksena ang Green Archers nun. But during the infancy stages of the league, the UP Maroons were a team to reckon with.

franz_inwurdz
02-13-2008, 10:59 PM
Barilan ??? wala...hndi naman totoo yan as i was there when it happened. Believe me, there were no shooting incidents...if ever there was one,it was* one isolated case which happened days after...i dont want to thread on it as i may sound bias in favor of...Anyway, this was just one of the highlights then...
Pero ENJOY Talaga noon ;D*


My dad used to tell me stories of students throwing stones at school gates. School bus ambushes. He's from letran ka-batch nina Escalera brothers. Though he has a good account of the murder inc. team. not sure why. Been trying to tell him about this site. medyo nakaka-limutan, audiophile forums ang napupuntahan. He would tell me stories about The fox and the big difference.;D

danny
02-14-2008, 01:47 AM
Barilan ??? wala...hndi naman totoo yan as i was there when it happened. Believe me, there were no shooting incidents...if ever there was one,it was* one isolated case which happened days after...i dont want to thread on it as i may sound bias in favor of...Anyway, this was just one of the highlights then...
Pero ENJOY Talaga noon ;D*


My dad used to tell me stories of students throwing stones at school gates. School bus ambushes. He's from letran ka-batch nina Escalera brothers. Though he has a good account of the murder inc. team. not sure why. Been trying to tell him about this site. medyo nakaka-limutan, audiophile forums ang napupuntahan. He would tell me stories about The fox and the big difference.;D


Letranista pala tatay mo Franz. Hybrid ka pala. :D

Escalera, pre, ikaw ata ang tinutukoy na ka-batch ng tatay ni Franz. ;)

ESCALERA JR.
02-14-2008, 02:24 PM
Barilan ??? wala...hndi naman totoo yan as i was there when it happened. Believe me, there were no shooting incidents...if ever there was one,it was* one isolated case which happened days after...i dont want to thread on it as i may sound bias in favor of...Anyway, this was just one of the highlights then...
Pero ENJOY Talaga noon ;D*


My dad used to tell me stories of students throwing stones at school gates. School bus ambushes. He's from letran ka-batch nina Escalera brothers. Though he has a good account of the murder inc. team. not sure why. Been trying to tell him about this site. medyo nakaka-limutan, audiophile forums ang napupuntahan. He would tell me stories about The fox and the big difference.;D


Letranista pala tatay mo Franz. Hybrid ka pala. :D

Escalera, pre, ikaw ata ang tinutukoy na ka-batch ng tatay ni Franz.* ;)


Hindi :-[ sina Tito Vic and Joey ang tinutukoy niyan...mga escalera bros sa iskul bukol. Pero nakikita ko ang mga sotto lalo na si tito sen and brother val pero nsa gradeschool pa ako. Yang panahon na yan ang matinding 'Happenings' noon NCAA.

Malamang nga mag-kabatch tayo eh :D o di kaya si tito LION and tito toti ;D

LION
02-14-2008, 02:38 PM
^ Sir, naka Ernie's barong na ba ang mga Sotto boys noon sa Letran? ;D

I think Tito Monl is your batchmate. When I was in elementary, Jerry Gonzales was the main man in Muralla. :)

toti_mendiola
02-14-2008, 06:49 PM
Hehehe. I dont mind being a senior of there are perks that comes along with it. Meron nga ba?

ESCALERA JR.
02-14-2008, 08:08 PM
^ Sir, naka Ernie's barong na ba ang mga Sotto boys noon sa Letran?* *;D* *

I think Tito Monl is your batchmate.* When I was in elementary, Jerry Gonzales was the main man in Muralla.* *:)


Masyadong maporma mga "escalera" boys noon...laging may bitbit na electric guitar, pakanta-kanta ...cool na cool lang. 8)
Mga idol ko mga iyan...kaya nga Escalera jr. eh ;)

Their bunsoy, Maru, who is a Bedan donned the Red Lions jersey and played alongside Red Lion Dave Brodett during the early 70's.

In that era, there were a couple of outstanding Red Lions but were unable to produce a crown, Dave Brodett being one of them.* Abe King is another big guy coming out from the Lions den.* Until later in that decade when the likes of Yango, Barreiro, Loyzaga's and your coach F. Lim coasted along in SBC' first back to back crowns.

Who would ever thought that the once pretty boy, long-haired frankie would lose all of his hair.* To think he will only be 12 yrs old at the end of this month. ;D (12x4) being a leap year. :D


Tama ka sir toti, there are perks... and one of them is being able to share those unforgetable NCAA days of yesteryears and relive them over and over...again and again* thru the magic of technology.

lekiboy
02-14-2008, 11:53 PM
Hehehe. I dont mind being a senior of there are perks that comes along with it. Meron nga ba?



meron toti- 20% discount :):):)

...pero malayo layo pa...antagal naman ng inuman...kelan ba next? :)

LION
02-15-2008, 08:05 AM
^ Pareng lekiboy, 12x4 ka na nga ba? ;D

lekiboy
02-15-2008, 10:22 AM
^ Pareng lekiboy, 12x4 ka na nga ba?* *;D


bwahahaha- parang ganun na feeling ko....:):)

franz_inwurdz
02-15-2008, 11:04 AM
Hehehe. I dont mind being a senior of there are perks that comes along with it. Meron nga ba?



meron toti- 20% discount :):):)

...pero malayo layo pa...antagal naman ng inuman...kelan ba next? :)


libre pa sine sa makati. tsaka may special lane sa cityhall para di na pumipila ng matagal.

Escelera jr. - yup, I meant the sotto brothers. si Tito ang ka-batch ng dad ko.

Howard the Duck
04-03-2008, 06:59 PM
seniors games on sept. 15, 2004 = classics ;D

danny
04-04-2008, 01:09 AM
Masyadong maporma mga "escalera" boys noon...laging may bitbit na electric guitar, pakanta-kanta ...cool na cool lang. 8)
Mga idol ko mga iyan...kaya nga Escalera jr. eh ;)

Their bunsoy, Maru, who is a Bedan donned the Red Lions jersey and played alongside Red Lion Dave Brodett during the early 70's.

In that era, there were a couple of outstanding Red Lions but were unable to produce a crown, Dave Brodett being one of them.* Abe King is another big guy coming out from the Lions den.* Until later in that decade when the likes of Yango, Barreiro, Loyzaga's and your coach F. Lim coasted along in SBC' first back to back crowns.

Who would ever thought that the once pretty boy, long-haired frankie would lose all of his hair.* To think he will only be 12 yrs old at the end of this month. ;D (12x4) being a leap year. :D


Tama ka sir toti, there are perks... and one of them is being able to share those unforgetable NCAA days of yesteryears and relive them over and over...again and again* thru the magic of technology.





Champion teams during the 1970s:

1970-71 Letran
1971-72 La Salle
1972-73 JRC
1973-74 San Sebastian
1974-75 La Salle
1975-76 Ateneo
1976-77 Ateneo
1977-78 San Beda
1978-79 San Beda
1979-80 Letran

Maganda din yang dekado 70. Nobody really dominated that era. Two trophies each for La Salle, Letran, Ateneo and San Beda. One each for San Sebastian and JRC. Ayos!

aircanda
04-04-2008, 08:19 AM
mga sir..

eh yung Mapua ko back in your days? kinakatakutan din ba sila sa riot at sa hardcourt? ;D

toti_mendiola
04-04-2008, 09:29 AM
Pare lahat ng mga estudyante nung araw eh palaban naman. It was the time na rebellious lahat ng mga estudyante. Mas lalo na nung panahon ng martial law. Kaya yung suppressed emotions against the fascist regime back then eh nabubuhos sa ibang bagay. Poat game riots includng. hehehe. Makakapal daw ang bucle ng mga belt ng mga estudyante dati, pang rumle. hehehe

danny
05-31-2008, 07:59 AM
Pare lahat ng mga estudyante nung araw eh palaban naman. It was the time na rebellious lahat ng mga estudyante. Mas lalo na nung panahon ng martial law. Kaya yung suppressed emotions against the fascist regime back then eh nabubuhos sa ibang bagay. Post game riots includng. hehehe. Makakapal daw ang bucle ng mga belt ng mga estudyante dati, pang rumle. hehehe



E ngayon? Pa-cute na lang. Online away pa. ;D

danny
06-07-2008, 12:40 AM
Makakapal daw ang buckle ng mga belt ng mga estudyante dati, pang rumle. hehehe





http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d42/mundoniwet/sanbeda.jpg


This is the personalized San Beda Belt Buckle used in the 50s and 60s which was crafted by the famous Crispulo Zamora and Sons company. Pioneer Filipino engravers who serviced the requirements of the head of state, the mlilitary, schools, artists and even the church.

Used with "extreme prejudice" when needed. ;D

The Zamora Cup? Yup, that's their NCAA legacy that was retired by San Beda in 1955.

MonL
06-07-2008, 08:17 AM
mga sir..

eh yung Mapua ko back in your days? kinakatakutan din ba sila sa riot at sa hardcourt?* ;D


Hindi. Si Mamaril ang mismo kinakatakutan.* ;D

Seriously, MIT didn't really contend then during the time I became aware of and followed the sport. I wasnt able to see Atoy Co or Hubalde play at the NCAA level, though I did see future pros Romy Mamaril, Joel Banal, Armando "Django" Arce and Leo Isaac play. But they were never pushovers. They did make an impact at the turn of the 80s by winning an NCAA championship.* Leo Isaac was severely criticized for his inclusion in the ill-fated 1980 RP youth team over Letran's Ed Baldomero and Tim Coloso, but silenced the critics by carrying MIT to a championship.

The_Big_Cat
06-07-2008, 12:46 PM
Hindi. Si Mamaril ang mismo kinakatakutan. ;D

Seriously, MIT didn't really contend then during the time I became aware of and followed the sport. I wasnt able to see Atoy Co or Hubalde play at the NCAA level, though I did see future pros Romy Mamaril, Joel Banal, Armando "Django" Arce and Leo Isaac play. But they were never pushovers. They did make an impact at the turn of the 80s by winning an NCAA championship. Leo Isaac was severely criticized for his inclusion in the ill-fated 1980 RP youth team over Letran's Ed Baldomero and Tim Coloso, but silenced the critics by carrying MIT to a championship.

Kasama yata dyan sa team ng MIT yung older brother ni Dennis Espino.

ESCALERA JR.
06-08-2008, 07:02 AM
^ Pareng lekiboy, 12x4 ka na nga ba?* *;D


bwahahaha- parang ganun na feeling ko....:):)


hahaha ;D mga ka-batch :D

lekiboy
06-08-2008, 09:18 AM
^ Pareng lekiboy, 12x4 ka na nga ba?* *;D


bwahahaha- parang ganun na feeling ko....:):)


hahaha ;D mga ka-batch :D


LION, pag nakasama natin si escalera, dikit lang tayo - sure ball ang 20% dyan - hehehe

danny
06-08-2008, 11:46 PM
^ Pareng lekiboy, 12x4 ka na nga ba? ;D


bwahahaha- parang ganun na feeling ko....:):)


hahaha ;D mga ka-batch :D



Uy ha. Kayo kayo lang. ;D

Malapit na bakbakan pare. Kita kits...online... :( :)

dioning
06-09-2008, 01:09 PM
Hindi. Si Mamaril ang mismo kinakatakutan.* ;D

Seriously, MIT didn't really contend then during the time I became aware of and followed the sport. I wasnt able to see Atoy Co or Hubalde play at the NCAA level, though I did see future pros Romy Mamaril, Joel Banal, Armando "Django" Arce and Leo Isaac play. But they were never pushovers. They did make an impact at the turn of the 80s by winning an NCAA championship. Leo Isaac was severely criticized for his inclusion in the ill-fated 1980 RP youth team over Letran's Ed Baldomero and Tim Coloso, but silenced the critics by carrying MIT to a championship.

Kasama yata dyan sa team ng MIT yung older brother ni Dennis Espino.


si arnold espino ata yun. malaking tao din, mga 6'5"
may pagka-enforcer din ata laro nya
pero ang mga talagang enforcer ng mapua yan sila ricky relosa, vic "rambo" sanchez, at yung naging player ng shell sa pba na na nakalimutan ko ang pangalan na nakipag-umbagan kay wilmer ong at jolly escobar ng ginebra
yan si relosa when he was a red robin, during the dying moments of a game against the blue eaglets when the latter was winning the game by a mile, tinira pa si bambi kabigting when the latter was making a lay-up to wrap up the game
ayun, bumalibag si kabigting, pandemonium broke loose, rambulan na
loko talaga tong si relosa, non-bearing na nga e at patapos na yun game bumanat pa
parang yun ginawa ni itoy esguerra kay chito loyzaga during a ginebra-tanduay game in the late 80's
kaya tuwang tuwa mga atenistang kapanahunan niya nung umbagin ni thompkins si relosa
isa pa yan si vic sanchez, kawawang stevie watson, kinailangan pa ni dalupan utusan si max estrada na tirahin si "rambo" para tigilan na si stevie boy, ayun habulan na naman
could anyone refresh my memory kung sino itong former shell player from mapua
nakalimutan ko talaga pangalan niya e

dioning
06-09-2008, 01:17 PM
mga iba pang mapuan enforcers na alam ko
johnny revilla, rudy kutch atsaka si bong dela cruz
si revilla & kutch played for the red robins before hooking up w/ the ue red warriors in college
si dela cruz naman if am not mistaken, played for the cardinals in the ncaa
yan si revilla, walang kinatatakutan yan, kahit si big j di niya aatrasan
during the '78 pba all star game nga sinahod niya ang da driving jawo under da basket
ayun una ulo ni big j
pag dating ng halftime, hinamon siya ni jawo ng square sa dug-out
buti nalang inawat sila ni dalupan (their college coach) kundi baka nagpalit sila ng mukha ni revilla
lugi si jawo kung ganun
si kutch at jawo were team mates sa ue
bago pa si starski & hutch, meron ng jaworski & kutch

The_Big_Cat
06-09-2008, 01:26 PM
could anyone refresh my memory kung sino itong former shell player from mapua
nakalimutan ko talaga pangalan niya e

I think you are referring to Jay Mendoza. Former Shell and former MIT Cardinal.
Naalala ko yung Relosa at Thompkins duel. Binatukan ni Relosa si Thompkins. Habulan sila sa loob ng ULTRA hanggang na magtago si Relosa sa Shell bench pero hindi parin umubra dahil nakipag rambulan si Thompkins sa Shell bench.

dioning
06-09-2008, 01:31 PM
may naaalala pa akong isang cardinal na enforcer
si oscar cabrera na daati rin red cub
when he was playing for rc cola in the pbl, sinapak niya si toying teves (of ncaa baste) ng sta lucia
ayun rambulan nanaman
napuruhan tuloy yun pbl & ncaa team mate niya na si benny cheng

pero ang all time enforcer siguro ng mapua na kinatatakutan talaga e yung hall of famer nila & former coach na si charlie badion in fact yun ang nickname niya "the enforcer"
who could ever forget his famous "bicycle" drive to the basket, pag inexecute na niya ito walang sira ulo ang nag tangkang humarang, badion was like a freight train
rumor nga e ito yun ginaya ni jawo in his now famous "barreling" drive to the basket

dioning
06-09-2008, 01:33 PM
could anyone refresh my memory kung sino itong former shell player from mapua
nakalimutan ko talaga pangalan niya e

I think you are referring to Jay Mendoza. Former Shell and former MIT Cardinal.
Naalala ko yung Relosa at Thompkins duel. Binatukan ni Relosa si Thompkins. Habulan sila sa loob ng ULTRA hanggang na magtago si Relosa sa Shell bench pero hindi parin umubra dahil nakipag rambulan si Thompkins sa Shell bench.


ayun, nadale mo, salamat ng marami sa iyo The_Big_Cat

nash_bedista
06-09-2008, 02:27 PM
pwde pong bang masabi na Old School yung Rumble between PCU-SBC? ???

ESCALERA JR.
06-09-2008, 04:42 PM
^ Pareng lekiboy, 12x4 ka na nga ba?* *;D


bwahahaha- parang ganun na feeling ko....:):)


hahaha ;D mga ka-batch :D


LION, pag nakasama natin si escalera, dikit lang tayo - sure ball ang 20% dyan - hehehe


Pwede kayang combine natin para mas malaki sa 20% ;D sama natin si sir toti ...x 4 = 80% disc tayo.

mahigit pa sa isang dekada ang bubunuin ko mga pare koy...promise...totoo yan :D

danny
06-17-2008, 05:10 AM
Malapit na naman ang NCAA. Nadadagdagan na naman ang taon ng mga old schoolers.

Susunod, pati ang 1990's NCAA magiging "legitimate" old school na din. :D

ESCALERA JR.
06-17-2008, 09:25 AM
^malapit-lapit na rin pareng danny.

Just look at this...circa 90's icons eg. Lasalle' Zandro Limpot, Feu' Johnny Abbarientos, UE' Ravena, SBC' Boybits Victoria and Letran' Mustre have all retired by now.

Adamson's Kenneth Duremdes, Adducol and Rodney Santos of the mighty 5-time SSC chanpions in the mid 90-s are nearing the twighlight of their carreers.

By the time you know it, pa-retire na din sina Renren Ritualo, Enrico Villanueva and Blazer' Sunday Salvacion of circa 2000.

The 80's stars like Alvin Patrimonio of Mapua, Knight Samboy Lim, and UE's Allan Caidic are mere backgrounders working as asst. coaches or team managers.

The 70's era...err..ahhh... well di ko na matandaan ??? (signs of fading memory).

Yung 60's pababa...ey itatanong ko muna sa tiyuhin ko...kung may buhay pa ;D

The_Big_Cat
06-17-2008, 09:58 AM
^malapit-lapit na rin pareng danny.

Just look at this...circa 90's icons eg. Lasalle' Zandro Limpot, Feu' Johnny Abbarientos, UE' Ravena, SBC' Boybits Victoria and Letran' Mustre have all retired by now.


Si Mustre ang mas matanda dyan sa kanila. Last season niya sa college (NCAA) noong 1990 along with Genesis Sasuman. Ravena, Limpot and Victoria were all PBA ROY.

MonL
07-12-2008, 09:44 PM
1979: The Changing of the Guard.

The San Beda Red Lions had won the NCAA championships two years running. However, after the celebrations of the 1978 championship had subsided, dark clouds loomed over the horizon for the Red and White.* Chito Loyzaga and Jayvee Yango were lost to the YCO Painters of the MICAA commercial league, though they were still eligible for one and two more years, respectively. Chuck Barriero, the Guzman Twins Noel and Joel, and reserve Ric Dabu had played out their eligibility. Backup center Rolando Evangelista tried his luck in the PBA and played for the Tanduay Distillers.

And so the Red Lions of 1979, two-time defending champions, was a team that was gutted with the loss of vital veteran players. The loss of Yango and Loyzaga to YCO, still eligible and critical for a third title defense, was a fatal development as it turned out. And everyone knew it.

That 1979 Red Lion team was led by its new 1-2 punch at guard, Frankie Lim and Luis Brill. Forwards Ber Martin, Elmer Reyes and guard Cholo Martin were the other carryovers. Forward Al "Ali" Alipante, one of the heroes in 1977, returned after sitting out 1978.

The team was loaded with promising rookies, led by 6'1" slam dunking forward and future pro Manuel "Totoy" Marquez, 6'2" forward Virgilio "Gil" Cortez, 6'3" center Ramon Cui, 6'2" guard Juanito "Jojo" Guzman, 6'0" Totoy Gagan look-alike guard Al Tiongco, 6'1" forward* Robert Magalong and 6'1" Joey Loyzaga, up from the Red Cubs. Coach Loreto "Bonnie" Carbonell continued to call the shots as Head Coach.

The loss of the veterans and the infusion of a lot of rookies severely affected the Lion's campaign that year. They played brilliantly, upsetting eventual champion Letran in the first round, but miserably fell to lesser teams Trinity and JRC in upsets. Though they fought hard, their efforts were not enough to land a finals seat, and Letran,with its intact lineup handily won the crown that year by winning both First and Second Rounds.

To sum it up, 1979 was a failed campaign. They were not dethroned in the champion's fashion of slugging it out in the Finals. They were not good enough to reach that point.* It was understandable given the decimated status of the team, but the Bedan gallery support was still there, egging the team on, and that team fought hard indeed. Hence, for a time they stayed alive. But a first post-war three-peat was not meant to be.*

danny
07-13-2008, 01:26 AM
Great account MonL! Animo San Beda!

Escalera! Etow sa yow >>> Arriba Letran!


Pax.

The_Big_Cat
07-14-2008, 08:55 AM
The team was loaded with promising rookies, led by 6'1" slam dunking forward and future pro Manuel "Totoy" Marquez, 6'2" forward Virgilio "Gil" Cortez, 6'3" center Ramon Cui, 6'2" guard Juanito "Jojo" Guzman, 6'0" Totoy Gagan look-alike guard Al Tiongco, 6'1" forward* Robert Magalong and 6'1" Joey Loyzaga, up from the Red Cubs. Coach Loreto "Bonnie" Carbonell continued to call the shots as Head Coach.

Totoy Marquez is the younger brother of Joey Marquez.

Is Ramon Cui related to ex-PBA player Ricky Cui?

MonL
07-14-2008, 10:26 PM
The team was loaded with promising rookies, led by 6'1" slam dunking forward and future pro Manuel "Totoy" Marquez, 6'2" forward Virgilio "Gil" Cortez, 6'3" center Ramon Cui, 6'2" guard Juanito "Jojo" Guzman, 6'0" Totoy Gagan look-alike guard Al Tiongco, 6'1" forward* Robert Magalong and 6'1" Joey Loyzaga, up from the Red Cubs. Coach Loreto "Bonnie" Carbonell continued to call the shots as Head Coach.

Totoy Marquez is the younger brother of Joey Marquez.

Is Ramon Cui related to ex-PBA player Ricky Cui?


IIRC, yes. While Mon Cui played for the Red Lions that year, Ricky Cui was toiling with the Training Team as a reed-thin forward-center, and was a campus intramural star, along with future Lions coach Jonathan Reyes.

As for Totoy, I believe he is Joey's half-brother.

keempee
07-15-2008, 03:00 PM
Any stories about Letran's fabled "Murder, Inc." squad of the 60s?


...Letran team of the 50's had practically ambushed every school in the NCAA on the way to its 2nd title...(the first one was in 1938). Other noted members of the team were Louie Tabuena, Gabby Fajardo, Cuna Brothers, Tanquintic (i'm open for correction, not really sure of the names)


escalera, you're sure that there were cuna brothers in letran during the 50s?* all cunas are related to one another kasi, and i thought everyone in the older generation either played for san beda (sila dading cuna) or babbled for ateneo (sila bunny, an alaskador extraordinaire in the tradition of dyords javier...just ask 69 eagle jun ross about him). the younger ones, on the other hand, attended la salle or UP.

keempee
07-15-2008, 03:05 PM
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keempee
07-15-2008, 03:08 PM
mga iba pang mapuan enforcers na alam ko
johnny revilla, rudy kutch atsaka si bong dela cruz
si revilla & kutch played for the red robins before hooking up w/ the ue red warriors in college
si dela cruz naman if am not mistaken, played for the cardinals in the ncaa
yan si revilla, walang kinatatakutan yan, kahit si big j di niya aatrasan
during the '78 pba all star game nga sinahod niya ang da driving jawo under da basket
ayun una ulo ni big j
pag dating ng halftime, hinamon siya ni jawo ng square sa dug-out
buti nalang inawat sila ni dalupan (their college coach) kundi baka nagpalit sila ng mukha ni revilla
lugi si jawo kung ganun
si kutch at jawo were team mates sa ue
bago pa si starski & hutch, meron ng jaworski & kutch


dioning, actually nakabawi si jawo during that all-star game. ang dalas ng pag iwas sa kanya ni revilla, kaya ginawa ni jawo, nirequest si estoy estrada (not sure if nakalipat na sya sa toyota nung time na yan, along with danny florencio) na balyahin si revilla under the basket. kumuha pa muna ng bwelo si estrada from outside the shaded area para malakas ang tama talaga kay johnny revilla, hehe. kala ko dati sya yung johnny revilla na kapatid nila tina revilla, tataka ako bat ang itim.

keempee
07-15-2008, 03:22 PM
La Salle, then still a College (DLSC), was always a crowd favourite owing to their strong line-up that eventually bagged the NCAA title and also having won the crown 2 seasons earlier in '71. Honestly, hindi ko maalala ang mga iba pang players nila...(baka si Tito MonL o Tito LION naaalala...diba mga tito ;D), except Lim Eng Beng.




tito Escalera, I'm still a young lion.* * :)

OT : How are you related to tito and vic sotto a.k.a. the escalera brothers?* Pareho kasi kayong mga tiga Letran?* :)


they had a group known as the havocs. basta nagsimulang sumabit daw mga yan sa fence ng bleachers ng rizal (old habitues would probably recall na may parang chicken fence separating the bleachers from the lower sections), signal na yon na simula na batuhan at rumble.* they also got involved in an altercation with several ateneans in a makati restaurant during the early 70s before cooler heads intervened. fortunately, as it turned out, coz the ateneo group consisted of farinas and greggy araneta, who acted as managers and supporters of the team then. bodyguards bale ang panlaban. another prominent atenean supporting the team then was asistio, who helped bring in marte samson and joy cleofas from caloocan hs to ateneo. sa havocs naman, kasama nila don si danny bocalan.

san beda naman had a group then called champawats, led by a tough guy named fornier.

LION
07-15-2008, 03:27 PM
La Salle, then still a College (DLSC), was always a crowd favourite owing to their strong line-up that eventually bagged the NCAA title and also having won the crown 2 seasons earlier in '71. Honestly, hindi ko maalala ang mga iba pang players nila...(baka si Tito MonL o Tito LION naaalala...diba mga tito ;D), except Lim Eng Beng.




tito Escalera, I'm still a young lion.* * :)

OT : How are you related to tito and vic sotto a.k.a. the escalera brothers?* Pareho kasi kayong mga tiga Letran?* :)


they had a group known as the havocs. basta nagsimulang sumabit daw mga yan sa fence ng bleachers ng rizal (old habitues would probably recall na may parang chicken fence separating the bleachers from the lower sections), signal na yon na simula na batuhan at rumble.* they also got involved in an altercation with several ateneans in a makati restaurant during the early 70s before cooler heads intervened. fortunately, as it turned out, coz the ateneo group consisted of farinas and greggy araneta, who acted as managers and supporters of the team then. bodyguards bale ang panlaban. another prominent atenean supporting the team then was asistio, who helped bring in marte samson and joy cleofas from caloocan hs to ateneo. sa havocs naman, kasama nila don si danny bocalan.

san beda naman had a group then called champawats, led by a tough guy named fornier.


Is this Atty. Fournier?

keempee
07-15-2008, 03:35 PM
Pang 1950's si Mastech.

Wala bang pwedeng magkwento ng pang 1930's. ;D



Thanks Escalera for the Letran perspective of the old school NCAA! Arriba!

You're welcome danny... its a pleasure sharing some 70' trivias i actually was able to witness first-hand together w tito monL & tito Lion, di ba mga titos ;D

pero kung 30's, malabo na ata yan, kelangan pa siguro pumunta sa letran library at halukayin ang inaalikabok ng archives.* 60's pa baka pwedeng maalala, eto...

As earlier recounted, the start of that decade saw the Knights emerging again as NCAA kings (last time was 1950 then 1970)...medyo nasingitan lang ng Letran team midway, which was coined the 'Spirit of '66. The players then were the young Larry Albano and Nemie Villegas. These 2 later became Letan coaches and were able to steer the Knights to 4 championships between them...1 with Villegas in'79 while Albano was at the helm of the Samboy Lim- Ang tandem that won the first 3peat in postwar NCAA.

Kung akala ninyo tahimik noon, HINDI. There was a time the league was suspended in the early 60' when student riots were prevalent. Protoganists were students from Mapua and (this one im not really 100% sure)...SBC?
Better check again with your grand-uncles & lolos for confirmation.

The time of King Cardinal Charlie Badion, better known for his "bicycle" lay-up. This style involves going for the basket with both legs hanging as if riding a bicycle in mid-air. Kung hahara-hara ang kalaban, tiyak may tama sa dibdib o mukha (SAGASA in short). Unfortunately this also turned out to be his downfall when he injured himself and in the process cut short his basketball career.

The JRC Heavy Bombers were having a heyday then winning at least 2 titles in the late 60's with actors Leroy Salvador and Rosemarie Sonorra as permanent fixture in their gallery...was even made popular with their dancing cheerleaders and swaying drum and bugle bands.

Other noted players then aside from Badion were...
DAve Brodett, Tata Carranceja of SBC Cubs and RL*
Freddie Webb, Joe Bolido of Letran
Sixto Agbay of JRC
Baby Boy Morales, Marte Samson, Francis Arnaiz and Joy Cleofas of Ateneo.

c 8) 8)l diba!


dagdagan ko lang ng konti.

marte samson and joy cleofas transferred to baste after ateneo's 69 crown.
letran - Marcelo, Hines, Regullano, Fermin, Tolentino, Pineda brothers (mga nag Utex), and Jojo De Guzman
jrc - Agbay, Pablo, De Vera, Deles, Tuazon, Rodriguez, Victorino, Cesar brothers,carvajal (eto yata yung namatay kasi nauntog yung ulo)
san beda - Brodette, Ablaza, Hojilla, Tejada
mapua - Trajano, Leano, Co and Revilla
baste - Ben Cleofas, Supnet, otazu
dlsc - Lim Eng Beng, Trillo, Lim, Malixi, Escober and Bilbao

actually, mejo di sabay sabay ang mga yan. pero nag abot abot lang.

keempee
07-15-2008, 03:36 PM
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keempee
07-15-2008, 03:46 PM
Pang 1950's si Mastech.

Kung akala ninyo tahimik noon, HINDI. There was a time the league was suspended in the early 60' when student riots were prevalent. Protoganists were students from Mapua and (this one im not really 100% sure)...SBC?
Better check again with your grand-uncles & lolos for confirmation.




ateneo kalaban ng mapua nung 1962* when the ncaa got suspended due to hooliganism. players then included yanga and bonita of mapua and flores and martelino of ateneo.

there was a time when junior players who were absolute standouts actually played for the seniors team as well. alala ko were mapua's revilla and hubalde.* revilla then transferred to ue for college; mapua ang malakas na hs that time, and their players would move to ue sa college, which sparked the warriors amazing run during that era, including years which included a guy named jaworski.

KingRedLion
07-15-2008, 06:48 PM
Pang 1950's si Mastech.

Kung akala ninyo tahimik noon, HINDI. There was a time the league was suspended in the early 60' when student riots were prevalent. Protoganists were students from Mapua and (this one im not really 100% sure)...SBC?
Better check again with your grand-uncles & lolos for confirmation.




ateneo kalaban ng mapua nung 1962* when the ncaa got suspended due to hooliganism. players then included yanga and bonita of mapua and flores and martelino of ateneo.

there was a time when junior players who were absolute standouts actually played for the seniors team as well. alala ko were mapua's revilla and hubalde.* revilla then transferred to ue for college; mapua ang malakas na hs that time, and their players would move to ue sa college, which sparked the warriors amazing run during that era, including years which included a guy named jaworski.


di ko inabot yung era na ito for sure, but recounting from my Dad's stories, this was the 7 straight championships that UE collected right? a record yet to be topped and beaten to this day....

The_Big_Cat
07-15-2008, 07:44 PM
Any stories about Letran's fabled "Murder, Inc." squad of the 60s?


Letran's "Murder INC." was the 1950 Champion team of the legendary LAURO "The Fox" MUMAR, father to Larry Mumar, the former MICAA stalwart husband of Coney Reyes, who has a love-child w Vic Sotto.(O ayan ha maykasama pang chismiss)* ;D

The team was coined as such because that Letran team of the 50's had practically ambushed every school in the NCAA on the way to its 2nd title...(the first one was in 1938). Other noted members of the team were Louie Tabuena, Gabby Fajardo, Cuna Brothers, Tanquintic (i'm open for correction, not really sure of the names)



Any relation to the Tanquintic brothers who played for Mapua? ??? Mike yata ang pangalan ng isa doon sa magkapatid.

They were mentioned to me as distant uncles.

MonL
07-16-2008, 05:22 PM
there was a time when junior players who were absolute standouts actually played for the seniors team as well. alala ko were mapua's revilla and hubalde.* revilla then transferred to ue for college; mapua ang malakas na hs that time, and their players would move to ue sa college, which sparked the warriors amazing run during that era, including years which included a guy named jaworski.


di ko inabot yung era na ito for sure, but recounting from my Dad's stories, this was the 7 straight championships that UE collected right? a record yet to be topped and beaten to this day....

They also had coaching legend Virgilio "Baby" Dalupan as their mentor.

gameface_one
08-07-2008, 11:05 AM
Can anybody post here the complete rosters (including the coaching staff) of the Ateneo and San Beda Teams that figured in closed door championship game in - was it 1977 or 1978? It was the last Ateneo - San Beda game.

ESCALERA JR.
08-07-2008, 08:25 PM
Only the starters...

Ateneo - Steve Watson, Joy Carpio, Padim Israel, Pons Valdez, Louie Rabat, Fritz Gaston

San Beda - Jayvee Yango, Chuck Barreiro, Chito Loyzaga, Louie Brill, Frankie Lim, Noel, and Joel Guzman

MonL
08-07-2008, 11:23 PM
Only the starters...

Ateneo - Steve Watson, Joy Carpio, Padim Israel, Manolito Valdez, Louie Rabat, Fritz Gaston

San Beda - Jayvee Yango, Chuck Barreiro, Chito Loyzaga, Louie Brill, Frankie Lim, Noel, and Joel Guzman


1977: The Year Of The Closed Door Championship
Additions:
Ateneo: Eu Puyat, Bambi Kabigting, Maling Estrella, Ogie Narvasa, (Edited to add:) Danny Daez
* * * * * * Coach: Adriano (Bong) Go

San Beda: Conrado (Ding) Castaneda- Captain, Glenn Manzano, Bernardo(Ber) Martin, Cholo Martin, Al Alipante, Ric Dabu, John Lizaso, Jun De Jesus
* * * * * * Coach: Loreto (Bonnie) Carbonell

*

BedanRoar
08-08-2008, 07:18 AM
Since it was a televised game, sana may makapag reproduce ng mga CD. Although I remember watching that clasic game. Sino kaya may original copy, Channel 9 yata?

MonL
08-08-2008, 07:33 AM
Since it was a televised game, sana may makapag reproduce ng mga CD. Although I remember watching that classic game. Sino kaya may original copy, Channel 9 yata?


Channel 4. And there were no commercial breaks on a purely public service broadcast.

LION
08-08-2008, 08:24 AM
Only the starters...

Ateneo - Steve Watson, Joy Carpio, Padim Israel, Pons Valdez, Louie Rabat, Fritz Gaston

San Beda - Jayvee Yango, Chuck Barreiro, Chito Loyzaga, Louie Brill, Frankie Lim, Noel, and Joel Guzman


Sir, 6 yung starter ng Ateneo at 7 sa San Beda? No wonder panalo ang San Beda sa series na yan. ;D ;D ;D

ponce
08-09-2008, 12:17 PM
Only the starters...

Ateneo - Steve Watson, Joy Carpio, Padim Israel, Manolito Valdez, Louie Rabat, Fritz Gaston

San Beda - Jayvee Yango, Chuck Barreiro, Chito Loyzaga, Louie Brill, Frankie Lim, Noel, and Joel Guzman


1977: The Year Of The Closed Door Championship
Additions:
Ateneo: Eu Puyat, Bambi Kabigting, Maling Estrella, Ogie Narvasa, (Edited to add:) Danny Daez
* * * * * * Coach: Adriano (Bong) Go

San Beda: Conrado (Ding) Castaneda- Captain, Glenn Manzano, Bernardo(Ber) Martin, Cholo Martin, Al Alipante, Ric Dabu, John Lizaso, Jun De Jesus
* * * * * * Coach: Loreto (Bonnie) Carbonell

*

Sir MonL, wasn't Max Estrada in the '77 Ateneo line-up?

MonL
08-09-2008, 04:37 PM
Only the starters...

Ateneo - Steve Watson, Joy Carpio, Padim Israel, Manolito Valdez, Louie Rabat, Fritz Gaston

San Beda - Jayvee Yango, Chuck Barreiro, Chito Loyzaga, Louie Brill, Frankie Lim, Noel, and Joel Guzman


1977: The Year Of The Closed Door Championship
Additions:
Ateneo: Eu Puyat, Bambi Kabigting, Maling Estrella, Ogie Narvasa, (Edited to add:) Danny Daez
* * * * * * Coach: Adriano (Bong) Go

San Beda: Conrado (Ding) Castaneda- Captain, Glenn Manzano, Bernardo(Ber) Martin, Cholo Martin, Al Alipante, Ric Dabu, John Lizaso, Jun De Jesus
* * * * * * Coach: Loreto (Bonnie) Carbonell

*

Sir MonL, wasn't Max Estrada in the '77 Ateneo line-up?


I don't recall having seen anyone with that name play against San Beda. Then again, I didnt see Daez play as well.

pepman
08-15-2008, 05:43 PM
Any stories about Letran's fabled "Murder, Inc." squad of the 60s?


Letran's "Murder INC." was the 1950 Champion team of the legendary LAURO "The Fox" MUMAR, father to Larry Mumar, the former MICAA stalwart husband of Coney Reyes, who has a love-child w Vic Sotto.(O ayan ha maykasama pang chismiss) ;D

The team was coined as such because that Letran team of the 50's had practically ambushed every school in the NCAA on the way to its 2nd title...(the first one was in 1938). Other noted members of the team were Louie Tabuena, Gabby Fajardo, Cuna Brothers, Tanquintic (i'm open for correction, not really sure of the names)



Any relation to the Tanquintic brothers who played for Mapua? ??? Mike yata ang pangalan ng isa doon sa magkapatid.

They were mentioned to me as distant uncles.


Tapos yung isa yata si Cady.

razor
08-15-2008, 07:19 PM
Sir MonL, wasn't Max Estrada in the '77 Ateneo line-up?


Max Estrada who's now a banker?

ponce
08-17-2008, 05:29 PM
Yup! He was my boss in Far East Bank. Dami nya kasing kwento about his NCAA days playing for Ateneo. Mabait yang mamang yan!

danny
08-19-2008, 03:33 AM
Since it was a televised game, sana may makapag reproduce ng mga CD. Although I remember watching that classic game. Sino kaya may original copy, Channel 9 yata?


Channel 4. And there were no commercial breaks on a purely public service broadcast.


Wala pang mga bwakaw na sponsors na inuuna ang magbenta ng produkto kesa sa laro? :D

MonL
08-19-2008, 12:50 PM
Since it was a televised game, sana may makapag reproduce ng mga CD. Although I remember watching that classic game. Sino kaya may original copy, Channel 9 yata?


Channel 4. And there were no commercial breaks on a purely public service broadcast.


Wala pang mga bwakaw na sponsors na inuuna ang magbenta ng produkto kesa sa laro?* :D


Martial Law noon, at ang gobyerno ang may ari ng lahat ng TV networks. Pero sa gobyerno talaga ang GTV-4.

danny
08-20-2008, 12:50 AM
Since it was a televised game, sana may makapag reproduce ng mga CD. Although I remember watching that classic game. Sino kaya may original copy, Channel 9 yata?


Channel 4. And there were no commercial breaks on a purely public service broadcast.


Wala pang mga bwakaw na sponsors na inuuna ang magbenta ng produkto kesa sa laro?* :D


Martial Law noon, at ang gobyerno ang may ari ng lahat ng TV networks. Pero sa gobyerno talaga ang GTV-4.


One of my* Uncle was a Director at the National Media* that was handling Channel 4 during the time of Cendana. Yung mga anak niya (pinsan ko syempre :D) mga Bedista. As I mentioned before, one of my cousin was a Little Indian during your time koya. ;D

Kaya tuwing may kailangan ang San Beda GS-HS sa Channel 4 o sa National Media noon, alam na nila kung sino lalapitan. :D

Pero dumating ang 1986, napatalsik sa poder si Makoy sibak din si Uncle. Pagkatapos nun, saka pa lang ako naging Bedista.*

KingRedLion
08-22-2008, 02:41 AM
mga sir bros., anyone here who recalls or knows who were the NCAA champs of 1959? From what my uncle told me, he only remembers who the team captains of some teams were at that time: Ramon Ascue of San Beda College, Kurt Bachmann of La Salle, Manuel Panlilio of Letran, Carlos Mandilag of Mapua & Abelardo Ortiz of JRC.

¡ánimo San Beda!

The_Big_Cat
08-22-2008, 10:02 AM
mga sir bros., anyone here who recalls or knows who were the NCAA champs of 1959? From what my uncle told me, he only remembers who the team captains of some teams were at that time: Ramon Ascue of San Beda College, Kurt Bachmann of La Salle, Manuel Panlilio of Letran, Carlos Mandilag of Mapua & Abelardo Ortiz of JRC.

¡ánimo San Beda!

SAN BEDA.

Kasama dyan sa Red Lion team ay ang notorius na si Pepe Oyson. "Don Pepe" wore the number 7 jersey back then for San Beda.

Stardust
08-22-2008, 10:59 AM
1959 ncaa champ wais sbc. apart from the players mentioned already, king red lion of that team was alberto "big boy" reynoso. the fame micaa cager who was suspended for life together with jawo for mauling 2 refs then. he played for meralco and then toyota, i think, after their ban was lifted.

his name is now enshrined in our sports hall of fame at st placid. he was elected to the hall last year or this frolics.

danny
08-23-2008, 01:09 AM
Don Pepe...

Daming astang Mafioso sa San Beda nung panahon ko. Mga Guwaping na Mafioso ang porma. "If looks could kill." ;D

adiksakatol
08-30-2008, 10:12 PM
hello lolos and titos, haha

meron ba kayong copies nung mga old NCAA games (1950s-1970s)? gs2 ko kc mapanood eh. curious ako kung pano yung style of play dati pati na rin ung cheering, fans, etc. mas maganda kung may maguupload sa youtube. thanks!

Emon74
09-29-2008, 08:25 AM
i've read stories about the Ateneo-San Beda close door championships and the Letran-La Salle rumble in the late 70s kaya nag bolt out sa NCAA ang school rivals Ateneo and La Salle, sa mga naabutan ko, I cant forget dong libed's winning shot in the '87 NCAA finals where Letran edges SSC 63-62, it was sardine packed sa Rizal memorial coliseum and while watching on TV may naririnig pa ko pumuputok na pang shotgun. San Sebestian was able to make it back to back in '88-'89, including a 10 game sweep of the 1988 season, there were only six schools then.

The_Big_Cat
09-29-2008, 09:33 AM
i've read stories about the Ateneo-San Beda close door championships and the Letran-La Salle rumble in the late 70s kaya nag bolt out sa NCAA ang school rivals Ateneo and La Salle, sa mga naabutan ko, I cant forget dong libed's winning shot in the '87 NCAA finals where Letran edges SSC 63-62, it was sardine packed sa Rizal memorial coliseum and while watching on TV may naririnig pa ko pumuputok na pang shotgun. San Sebestian was able to make it back to back in '88-'89, including a 10 game sweep of the 1988 season, there were only six schools then.

There was also the infamous rumble of the Triskellion (Baste) vs Triskellion (Letran) after that game.

Emon74
09-29-2008, 11:26 AM
Mapua is 1981 NCAA Champion

If the oriental calendar has a corresponding animal sign for each year in a thirteen year cycle then perhaps it is possible that the NCAA calendar has reserved a niche for the MIT cardinals every sixteen years beginning in 1949. And so it came to pass that 1981 is definitely the year of the cardinals as the Mapua tech quintet clobbered JRC’s heavy bombers 100-92 on October 4 at the Loyola center to sweep both first and second rounds of the NCAA and rightfully claim this year’s basketball title.
Mapua tech playing its best since 1965 assured itself of a ticket to the finals, if the case permits, by clinching the first round pennant with an unblemished record, 5-0. But it was derailed in its bid to top the second round unscathed when it lost to resurgent contenders JRC and Trinity. The second round ended with five teams-MIT, San Beda, JRC, Trinity and holdover champion Letran- sharing the top spot with similar 3-2 records. This forged an unprecedented third round, a first ever in the history of the NCAA basketball tournament.
MIT ousted Letran from the race with an 89-84 victory on September 29 and JRC conquered SBC 93-87 on the same date. On October 1, MIT knocked Trinity out 92-87 to set its rendezvous with the heavy bombers on October 4. MIT’s win is only its third since it became member of the NCAA but throughout its doormat years it has produced a number of great player foremost of which is its present coach, olympian charlie badion who piloted the cardinals impressively after a dismal 0-6 record in last year’s aborted NCAA games.
What adds color to MIT’s triumph is the fact that it not only capped its disheartening 15-year title draught but it also came ina time when NCAA needed it most. After the previous ho-hum years marked only by hardcourt wrangles and hooliganism that saw two squads, Ateneo and La Salle, leaving the league.
MIT skipper Leo Isaac, an alternate in the RP squad that saw action during the last Asian youth basketball tournament, became the league’s most valuable player. Other cardinals who deserved credit for their outstanding performance on court are diminutive sentinels gerardo ramos and edmundo baculi jr. and towering center menardo jubinal.
All odds disregarded, MIT hopes to break away from tis pre-ordained fate of hugging the championship trophy once in sixteen years. Only time can tell if they can do so.

Emon74
09-29-2008, 11:32 AM
i've read stories about the Ateneo-San Beda close door championships and the Letran-La Salle rumble in the late 70s kaya nag bolt out sa NCAA ang school rivals Ateneo and La Salle, sa mga naabutan ko, I cant forget dong libed's winning shot in the '87 NCAA finals where Letran edges SSC 63-62, it was sardine packed sa Rizal memorial coliseum and while watching on TV may naririnig pa ko pumuputok na pang shotgun. San Sebestian was able to make it back to back in '88-'89, including a 10 game sweep of the 1988 season, there were only six schools then.

There was also the infamous rumble of the Triskellion (Baste) vs Triskellion (Letran) after that game.


grabe, never knew that, ang napansin ko lang about basketball during those times (from 60s up to 80s) it was filled with so much violence, nun 1962 pala, the BAP cancelled the NCAA cage tournament sa ganun dahilan, school rumbles. etc.

cor_LEoN
10-06-2008, 02:44 PM
sila sila nag ramboL? dba mag"bro2d sila:? :o

Emon74
10-08-2008, 06:53 PM
NCAA Classics 60s Era

Ateneo, Letran upset foes

July 3, 1960 – the underrated Ateneo blue eagles and the Letran knights overturned their respective rivals in the opening of this year’s NCAA basketball tournament before a banner crowd of 27,000 fans at the Araneta Coliseum.
Ateneo nosed out defending champion San Beda, 61-60, on the last five second heave by rookie arnulfo suela. Letran, on the other hand, trimmed the highly-touted inter-collegiate champion Jose Rizal, 71-68, on a six-point splurge by another rookie, freddie webb, in the last two minutes of play.
Mapua Tech turned out to be the only team to live up to pre-game forecast as it routed La Salle, 69-57, in the first game. Rookies too paced the cardinals to the one-sided victory. Rudolfo canete, benedicto O’Clarit and Pedro Gonzalves sewed up the ballgame for the mapuans as early as the eight minute giving MIT an eight-point lead.

tulf
10-08-2008, 11:17 PM
NCAA Classics 60s Era

Ateneo, Letran upset foes

July 3, 1960 – the underrated Ateneo blue eagles and the Letran knights overturned their respective rivals in the opening of this year’s NCAA basketball tournament before a banner crowd of 27,000 fans at the Araneta Coliseum.
Ateneo nosed out defending champion San Beda, 61-60, on the last five second heave by rookie arnulfo suela. Letran, on the other hand, trimmed the highly-touted inter-collegiate champion Jose Rizal, 71-68, on a six-point splurge by another rookie, freddie webb, in the last two minutes of play.
Mapua Tech turned out to be the only team to live up to pre-game forecast as it routed La Salle, 69-57, in the first game. Rookies too paced the cardinals to the one-sided victory. Rudolfo canete, benedicto O’Clarit and Pedro Gonzalves sewed up the ballgame for the mapuans as early as the eight minute giving MIT an eight-point lead.


1959 yun last crown ng SBC, then 16 years championship drought, before the 1977 championship vs Ateneo! Kun di siguro lumipat si Sen. Webb sa Letran baka di inabot ng 16 years yun title drought ng SBC! Same thing nuong time ni Calaguio baka di umabot ng 28 years drought!

Emon74
10-09-2008, 04:00 PM
Here's an interesting NCAA Trivia: In 1982, Letran was the Newly-Crown Champs but the Knights lost its last game to Trinity Stallions! and it is said that the Trophy was a disgrace to the donor, the host school, Trinity college, about a foot high and of the cheapest quality, it was the worst ever awarded in an NCAA competition.

For the Record, Here's a piece of the Last game of the '82 NCAA Season

Trinity Stallions Stun Letran Knights, 102-89!

Trinity stallions played its heart out amidst an almost all pro-Letran crowd, as it brought downed the newly-crowned champs Knights, to the tune of 102-89. it was a stunning reversal in what turned out to be an anti-climatic wind-up to the NCAA seniors basketball tournament last September 15 at the Rizal Memorial Coliseum.
the knights, who clinched the Crown as early as saturday when dethrone champion Mapua beat San Beda, played inspired ball in the first half but succumbed to pressure in the final half to allow Trinity to romp away with the victory.
topscorers for the stallions were de guzman and aguilar with 22 and 21, respectively. Knights Latonio and ang banged in 17 and 16 points, respectively while skipper bobby agner and jerry gonzales had 14 points apiece.
Awarding ceremony followed the match between Letran and Trinity, with NCAA president Arturo Guerrero doing the honors of awarding the trophies. chosen Most Valuable Player was 5'6" Jerry Gonzales of Letran, while skipper Bobby Agner received the Championship Trophy.
The victory celebration was held at the Letran grounds, where the players, coaches, students, parents, alumni, school officials and all loyal supporters had a grand time!

KingRedLion
10-09-2008, 04:38 PM
NCAA Classics 60s Era

Ateneo, Letran upset foes

July 3, 1960 – the underrated Ateneo blue eagles and the Letran knights overturned their respective rivals in the opening of this year’s NCAA basketball tournament before a banner crowd of 27,000 fans at the Araneta Coliseum.
Ateneo nosed out defending champion San Beda, 61-60, on the last five second heave by rookie arnulfo suela. Letran, on the other hand, trimmed the highly-touted inter-collegiate champion Jose Rizal, 71-68, on a six-point splurge by another rookie, freddie webb, in the last two minutes of play.
Mapua Tech turned out to be the only team to live up to pre-game forecast as it routed La Salle, 69-57, in the first game. Rookies too paced the cardinals to the one-sided victory. Rudolfo canete, benedicto O’Clarit and Pedro Gonzalves sewed up the ballgame for the mapuans as early as the eight minute giving MIT an eight-point lead.


1959 yun last crown ng SBC, then 16 years championship drought, before the 1977 championship vs Ateneo! Kun di siguro lumipat si Sen. Webb sa Letran baka di inabot ng 16 years yun title drought ng SBC! Same thing nuong time ni Calaguio baka di umabot ng 28 years drought!


On the contrary, kahit hindi lumipat si Calaguio sa Letran at that time, I don't think SBC would've still beaten the Adducul-led SSC-R Stags, who were on a tear at that time beating teams left and right on their way to amassing 5 consecutive championships. Though the Red Lions beat them during Game 1 of the 1996 (or was it 1997?) Finals, with Jesus Dante Barredo providing the winning margin, the way that Stags team was built was really dominating, even manhandling the UST 4-peating Tigers during crossover exhibition game/s between the NCAA & the UAAP.

¡ánimo! San Beda! DynasTHREE Fulfilled!

Emon74
10-14-2008, 02:45 PM
Just like the old days, this one September 6, 1995, basketbrawl between the Cardinals and the Knights

the bench-clearing melee at the Rizal memorial coliseum, triggered by a heated scramble for the loose ball between Mapua's Ringo Jimenez and Letran's Paulo Evidente, resulted to injuries to several students who joined the fracas, Jimenez elbowed and kicked Evidente during a looseball fight, later evidente got back at jimenez in an inbound play with the game down to the final 16 seconds when hell broke loose. the team's players, officials and supporters in the bleachers went after each other, hurling incentives and trading punches. the free-for-all left injuries to two mapua players and their coach Joel Banal. John bernales suffered a deep cut on his neck after Evidente slashed him with a broken softdrink can while james tuazon got a fractured nose after he was hit by Letran's Chris Calaguio. scores of civilians were also hurt during the fracas, including a man who was hit by a bullet from an unidentified gunman whom the police failed to arrest. It actually took the police and league officials almost an hour before they were able to bring back order inside the coliseum and pacify the angry crowd which had resorted to coin and debris throwing. NCAA officials later successfully convinced the two teams to finished the remaining seconds which saw Mapua triumph over Letran, 84-66. the NCAA board immediately met a day after and suspended for one game both Jimenez and Evidente, the main protagonists in the incident, Banal, who was seen trading punches with several letran players and supporters who ganged up on him and Letran coach Rudy Hines were given stern warnings for their lack of control.

Emon74
10-21-2008, 07:10 PM
Pang 1950's si Mastech.

Wala bang pwedeng magkwento ng pang 1930's. ;D



Thanks Escalera for the Letran perspective of the old school NCAA! Arriba!


two UAAP schools, nag grandslam pala sa NCAA during the pre-war years

UP (1924-1926)
Ateneo (1931-1933)

pepman
10-21-2008, 08:01 PM
Bakit lagi sa RMC or Cuneta ang NCAA nung 90s?Ultra rin ha

dioning
10-21-2008, 11:26 PM
former senator ambrosio padilla played for ateneo college and then UP in the old ncaa

danny
10-23-2008, 01:39 AM
Pang 1950's si Mastech.

Wala bang pwedeng magkwento ng pang 1930's. ;D



Thanks Escalera for the Letran perspective of the old school NCAA! Arriba!


two UAAP schools, nag grandslam pala sa NCAA during the pre-war years

UP (1924-1926)
Ateneo (1931-1933)


They were still part of the NCAA back then, UP and Ateneo. UP and some other schools left the NCAA and formed the UAAP because of perceived commercialization/glamorization.

Hey, don't forget about San Beda's first grandslam in the 1930's . Fast forward to 2008,* now we have two (2) grandslams and the* post-war Crispulo Zamora trophy to boot (although not via grandslam).* ;)

danny
10-23-2008, 02:18 AM
Bakit lagi sa RMC or Cuneta ang NCAA nung 90s?Ultra rin ha


ULTRA was the "in" venue during my time. Rizal was "THE" traditional venue for pure passion, unplugged school pride.

Venues were non-issues back then for NCAA supporters especially during the dominance of Letran and Baste. Name the place and the supporters will come. Remnants of the old school NCAA. Image was nothing. Winning was everything.

Things changed. Profit, image and convenience became the yardsticks when big companies came in. Now a lot of us demand more. Parking, gimikan, CR, aircon, etc.

When the global economic crisis finally hit the Philippines big time, things will change again. When the "Greater Depression" finally arrives, expect the shift from basketball-irrelevant conspicuous consumption to just pure passion for college hoops. ;)

But that's just my opinion based on the current global trend...it may not happen. Really. ;D

untamed
10-23-2008, 07:06 AM
Bakit lagi sa RMC or Cuneta ang NCAA nung 90s?Ultra rin ha


I believed Rizal Memorial Coliseum would not be dubbed as the "Mecca of Philippine Basketball" if not for the a$$ Kickin' Old school NCAA, NCAA is Philipphine* Basketball back then. RMC witness it all, the intense battle inside the coliseum and the "happenings" outside the coliseum. If only RMC could speak up....* ;D

The_Big_Cat
10-23-2008, 09:10 AM
Bakit lagi sa RMC or Cuneta ang NCAA nung 90s?Ultra rin ha

Sumasabay din kasi sa trend.
RMC was the venue of the 1978 World Basketball Championships.
Noong mid-80s the PBA transferred to ULTRA. And the NCAA and UAAP followed by having its games also at ULTRA.

MonL
10-23-2008, 09:50 AM
Bakit lagi sa RMC or Cuneta ang NCAA nung 90s?Ultra rin ha

Sumasabay din kasi sa trend.
RMC was the venue of the 1978 World Basketball Championships.
Noong mid-80s the PBA transferred to ULTRA. And the NCAA and UAAP followed by having its games also at ULTRA.

OT:
For some games, yes.* That was where the Philippines lost "only" by 20 points to the Yugoslavians, led by eventual MVP Drazen Dalipagic, Zoran Slavnic, Cresimir Cosic and Dragan Kicanovic. Mon Cruz, in his finest amateur showing, shot 29 points, followed by Steve Watson, who shot 20.

Incidentally, Watson was accompanied by Joy Carpio and Padim Israel on that national team. Imagine a Philippine team with the tallest centers at 6'3" (Israel, Leopoldo Herrera, Carpio)* battling with 6'11 Yugoslav centers, the 7'2" Ralph Drollinger of the US team and the Soviet Union's* 7'0" Aleksander Belostennyi and 7'3" barrel-chested man-mountain center Vladimir Tkatchenko.

But the Mecca by that time was the Araneta Coliseum .The 8-team semifinal round was played there. In the finals, the Yugoslavs won over the Soviet Union, let by guard Sergei Belov and Tkatchenko. Brazil stole third place from Italy on a last second heave by guard Marcel De Souza. Then, as today, the refs got the rap. Future Hall of Famer Dino Meneghin of Italy chased the referee who counted De Souza's shot, threatening to kill him. :D

souljah_boy
10-23-2008, 11:17 AM
Maganda sana kung may gumawa ng documentary regarding the RMC. Tapos gawa ng commercial mala-NBA, 'yung naka-still 'yung camera tapos sounds ng laro (crowd, players, commentators) na ipinakita 'yung mga astig na moments. I saw the NBA commercial on that and the setting was an empty basketball gym or coliseum.

munkybear
10-23-2008, 10:49 PM
Just curious about San Beda's leave of absence from the NCAA. When was the leave of absence and who were the the affected Red Lions and Red Cubs,? Were they Benjie Paras, Ronnie Magsanoc and Eric Altamirano who transferred to UP and eventually won its only post-war championship?

munkybear
10-23-2008, 11:06 PM
i mean, is it just Paras, Magsanoc and Altamirano who transferred to UP?

lekiboy
10-24-2008, 12:39 AM
i mean, is it just Paras, Magsanoc and Altamirano who transferred to UP?

from what i know, the UP champion team had 8 former red cubs in its roster.

Bodhisattva
10-24-2008, 05:36 AM
^ i remember three others. Raymond Celis, Dondi Roque and Joey Mendoza.

MonL
10-24-2008, 07:35 AM
Add former Juniors MVP Duane Salvatera and Herbert Wenceslao as Red Cubs turned Champion Maroons. Raymond Celis left a year early, thus missing UP's championship run.

LION
10-24-2008, 07:50 AM
AFAIK, the entire starting unit of the UP Maroons at that time was all Red Cubs, down to the sixth man.

LION
10-24-2008, 07:52 AM
Bakit lagi sa RMC or Cuneta ang NCAA nung 90s?Ultra rin ha

Sumasabay din kasi sa trend.
RMC was the venue of the 1978 World Basketball Championships.
Noong mid-80s the PBA transferred to ULTRA. And the NCAA and UAAP followed by having its games also at ULTRA.

OT:
For some games, yes.* That was where the Philippines lost "only" by 20 points to the Yugoslavians, led by eventual MVP Drazen Dalipagic, Zoran Slavnic, Cresimir Cosic and Dragan Kicanovic. Mon Cruz, in his finest amateur showing, shot 29 points, followed by Steve Watson, who shot 20.

Incidentally, Watson was accompanied by Joy Carpio and Padim Israel on that national team. Imagine a Philippine team with the tallest centers at 6'3" (Israel, Leopoldo Herrera, Carpio)* battling with 6'11 Yugoslav centers, the 7'2" Ralph Drollinger of the US team and the Soviet Union's* 7'0" Aleksander Belostennyi and 7'3" barrel-chested man-mountain center Vladimir Tkatchenko.

But the Mecca by that time was the Araneta Coliseum .The 8-team semifinal round was played there. In the finals, the Yugoslavs won over the Soviet Union, let by guard Sergei Belov and Tkatchenko. Brazil stole third place from Italy on a last second heave by guard Marcel De Souza. Then, as today, the refs got the rap. Future Hall of Famer Dino Meneghin of Italy chased the referee who counted De Souza's shot, threatening to kill him. :D


Hanep! Talaga bang vivid sa memory mo ang mga detalyeng yan o may blog account ka na nung 70's pa?

MonL
10-24-2008, 08:06 AM
Naah. Just an overdose of TV and reading. Just to show the disparity in clear terms, there was a shot by Sports Weekly of RP center Pol Herrera running frontcourt along with Vladimir Tkatchenko. Hanggang dibdib lang ni Vlad si Pol. And Vlad probably outweighed him by a hundred pounds. And the late sportswriter Pyke Jocson used to add the descriptive term "the powerful" to Pol Herrera. :)

The_Big_Cat
10-24-2008, 09:10 AM
^I remember Pol Herrera in his Toyota days. Number 14 and back-up center for Mon Fernandez.
Palito look-a-like din. ;D

MonL
10-24-2008, 11:42 AM
^And that was probably the only time in Philippine basketball history that no player in the lineup ever outweighed the coach (Nic Jorge).* * ;D

But though the good old days pa rin ito, I am so far off topic na.* :D

The_Big_Cat
10-24-2008, 02:26 PM
^This is why Chito Loyzaga wore the number 41 jersey for Toyota when he entered the PBA because Pol Herrera already took the number 14. Magkakampi pa sila ni Ed Cordero (current SBC assistant) in Toyota and Beer Hausen.

duphaR007
10-24-2008, 03:38 PM
ed cordero ba yung may bigote and balbas na lagi bumubulong kay coach frankie?

LION
10-24-2008, 04:33 PM
Yes, that's him.

pepman
10-25-2008, 11:56 AM
Teka, dating teacher ko yan sa Basketball ah!

Tangkad niya!

Laging naka Purefoods TJ Hotdogs warm-up pants pag may klase.

Note: 2005 batch po ako.

ESCALERA JR.
10-25-2008, 08:50 PM
Nowadays, basketball live telecast is being aired with the familiar voices of its sportscaster. To add more spice to an already exciting game, courtside reporters were introduced as well.

In the NCAA, we hear the mellow twang of Mr.......(sorry guys, i forgot his name)... while in the UAAP the booming voice of DJ Boom Gonzales lords it over for the play by play .

But who would ever forget (not me) the rich low baritone voice of College basketball circa late 60's to the mid 70's.
None other than the voice of Mr. Joe Cantada.

NCAA trivia!

MonL
10-25-2008, 09:52 PM
Nowadays, basketball live telecast is being aired with the familiar voices of its sportscaster. To add more spice to an already exciting game, courtside reporters were introduced as well.

In the NCAA, we hear the mellow twang of Mr.......(sorry guys, i forgot his name)... while in the UAAP the booming voice of DJ Boom Gonzales lords it over for the play by play .

But who would ever forget (not me) the rich low baritone voice of College basketball circa late 60's to the mid 70's.
None other than the voice of Mr. Joe Cantada.

NCAA trivia!


That's Bill Velasco and his "sidekick," Butch Maniego for the NCAA.

ESCALERA JR.
10-25-2008, 10:56 PM
^thanks MonL, si Bill Velasco nga that voice w the 'arreneow' accent

dioning
10-26-2008, 01:17 PM
si butch maniego naman e merong meow accent

pepman
10-26-2008, 10:29 PM
MonL, kayo po ba si Mon Liboro?

BTW, who was NCAA's voice in the 90s?

MonL
10-27-2008, 07:48 AM
^Nope.
For your second question, I don't know.

LION
10-27-2008, 07:53 AM
^ Come to think of it. Same initials. Medyo hawig din. ;D

razor
10-27-2008, 08:45 AM
BTW, who was NCAA's voice in the 90s?


DZSR Sports Radio.

Wala naman regular TV coverage at that time.

franz_inwurdz
10-27-2008, 12:19 PM
In the 90s. It used to be showed in IBC 13. And the only one I could remember was a courtside reporter named Yale Aguila.

The_Big_Cat
10-27-2008, 12:37 PM
In the 90s. It used to be showed in IBC 13. And the only one I could remember was a courtside reporter named Yale Aguila.

Game 3 of the 1991 Finals was shown 3 days delayed on IBC-13.

danny
10-29-2008, 05:08 AM
Nowadays, basketball live telecast is being aired with the familiar voices of its sportscaster. To add more spice to an already exciting game, courtside reporters were introduced as well.

In the NCAA, we hear the mellow twang of Mr.......(sorry guys, i forgot his name)... while in the UAAP the booming voice of DJ Boom Gonzales lords it over for the play by play .

But who would ever forget (not me) the rich low baritone voice of College basketball circa late 60's to the mid 70's.
None other than the voice of Mr. Joe Cantada.

NCAA trivia!


Nice.

And there can only be one Joe Cantada. Acting as commentator for College hoop back then was serious business. Form and substance.

Ngayon may kasamang "girlash" at showbiz. Well, kanya kanyang timpla ng kanya kanyang henerasyon.

I prefer the old school obviously. ;D

ESCALERA JR.
10-29-2008, 06:13 PM
^during those good ol days, i often hear Joe's voice over the car AM radio broadcast of the NCAA on our way home from school.

The names/players i recall then na paulit-ulit kong naririning sa kanya ay sina.,
Fortunato Co of MIT, Conrado Banal of Ateneo, DLSC' LimEngBeng, Julie Lim, Malixi, Sixto Agbay, Carvajal of JRC. Ricky Pineda of Letran, Brodett of Sanbeda.

wala lang!

pepman
11-04-2008, 09:46 PM
Teka lang...
Somebody was typing this comment on my site and said*




F.Y.I.

Mr. Mateo Adao coached the Letran Knights after Mr.Fajardo. I was even the team mascot for some time. Larry Albano & d*ck Marquez (another Knights coach) was part of his team during that time.

Sincerely,
His Son (Boboy Adao)


Any info on this?

BTW, Vintage covered the NCAA in the mid-90s pioneering the term courtside reporting. Notable mediamen are Anthony Suntay and TJ Manotoc.

Emon74
02-21-2009, 01:19 PM
NCAA stars beat UAAP aces, 70-64

October 24, 1960 – The NCAA All stars posted a glittering 70-64 triumph over the UAAP selection in the anti-benefit game at the Araneta Coliseum.
The NCAA dribblers, who are scheduled to leave for a series of games in tokyo by virtue of winning the match, combined brilliant double team plays in defenses and clutch shooting to notch their fourth win over UAAP in five annual encounters.
NCAA’s Most Valuable Player clemente bargas, cristino arroyo and william jance carried the load for the NCAA quintet. Bargas whom UAAP guards valentin rosabal, pelagio simon and arturo valenzona failed to stop, tallied 17 pts. Arroyo and jance added 12 and 10 pts repectively.
NCAA coach bibiano Ouano started out with arroyo, adel feliciano, elias tolentino jr, romeo yanga and juanito pecana jr to opposed virgilio dalupan’s starting lineup of amoroso, simon, ireneo caballero, arenas and ramon figueroa.

NCAA, UAAP aces fight

November 27, 1960 – NCAA champion Letran and UAAP’s University of the East battled to a 51-all deadlock in a game that ended in a free-swinging affair at the Araneta Coliseum.
The game was for the benefit of the Bibiano Ouano fund drive. Ouano died of heart attack while coaching Letran in a goodwill series in Japan last November 9.
The fight started with exactly 10 minutes left to play following a scramble for the loose ball involving Letran skipper clemente bargas, jose sison and rizaldo pabillore of UE. Referee jose lansang called a jump ball but when the three stood up from the floor, they started swinging.
A melee broke out as both teams joined the fracas. The group was pacified a minute later but coach baby dalupan of the UE warriors and Rogelio Lao, Vice President of the NCAA, deemed it wise to stop the contest.
Bargas, Sison and Pabillore suffered bruises and contusions on their faces and bargas mother, who seated at the box section, fainted on seeing her son involved in the fistcuffs.* *

ESCALERA JR.
02-21-2009, 04:46 PM
^mga letranista talaga o...mahilig magpasaya lagi ng laban ;D

danny
03-05-2009, 03:39 PM
BTW, Vintage covered the NCAA in the mid-90s pioneering the term courtside reporting. Notable mediamen are Anthony Suntay and TJ Manotoc.



The Vintage coverage was an an initiative of San Beda... ;)

Emon74
04-23-2009, 11:05 AM
And this was 50 years ago

Double win by La Salle vs Ateneo

July 12, 1959 – La Salle chalked up its first double victory in this year’s NCAA basketball series over Ateneo before 7,000 fans at the Rizal Memorial Coliseum.
In the initial encounter, the La Salle high school greenies overcame the plunky blue eaglets, 41-40, on the last second foul shot by six-footer Francisco Perez to take the sole leadership in the junior division with two victories.
Then in the nightcap, the green archers defeated the defending champions blue eagles, 83-77, on a four point blast by skipper Kurt Bachmann in the last minute of play to clamber out of the cellar and stepped into a two way tie for third place behind San Beda and Mapua.
Cristino Arroyo paced the blue eagles brave efforts by scoring 30 points to register this season’s highest scoring total.

Cardinals down Eagles, 86-76

July 26, 1959 – the Mapua Tech Cardinals shooting trio of Mike Tanquintic, Leonardo del Pilar and skipper Carlos Mandilag finally pulled out of the prolonged shooting slump and celebrated their return to form with an 86-76 ripping of defending champion Ateneo blue eagles in the NCAA cage series at the Rizal Memorial Coliseum.
The three cardinals aces came back to life just in time to nip a blazing rally by the blue eagles. The trio barrelled home 38 points and got bristling support from rookie center Robert Poon, who scored 13 points and penetrated time and again Ateneo’s vaunted man for man defense.

Red Lions bag flag

August 2, 1959 – San beda formally clinched the first round pennant of the NCAA basketball tournament by defeating Letran, 83-62 at the Rizal Memorial Coliseum.
The red lions deviated from, their usual well-paced, calculating style and surprise the knights with their speed to score their fifth striaght triumph as early as the 15th minute, after roaring to 10-point spread.
Letran had been expected to put up gallant stand since its ace shooters Noel Sison and Domingo Celis were playing but a sagging man-zone defense san beda utilized made close quarter shots so difficult.

Cards deal Letran its seventh loss

August 18, 1959 – Mapua tech gave letran its seventh straight loss this season with a 93-92 squeaker in the ongoing NCAA basketball tournament at the Rizal Memorial Coliseum.
Down by seven points late in the second half, the knights rallied to pull within one point of the cardinals, 93-92, with four seconds remaining after skipper Manuel Panlilio sank the first of two charity shots on a foul by cardinal Jorge de Jesus.
Although Panlilio missed his second try. Letran caught the ball off the rebound only to see the ball batted out of bounds by frantic mapuans. In the throw-in that followed, Noel Sison receive the pass, took a one second aim at the basket and let go. The ball travelled in a loop and appeared headed for the goal but it took a crazy spin and popped out of the basket.

riou
05-14-2009, 08:12 PM
hehe grbe madame pla dito nagccherish ng good old NCAA rivalries ng ateneo-letran-lasalle-sanbeda,

:) :) :) :)
sana in my lifetime, once again magreunite to 4 schools na to, xempre without the brawls! hahaha

danny
06-23-2009, 03:49 AM
Old School? Get a load of this! ;D


http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2189/61/40/1118216953/n1118216953_300019_7322.jpg

jsa
08-14-2009, 09:49 AM
Freddie Webb, Joe Bolido of Letran

Joe Bolido went on to work for Hong Kong Bank and led its team of "employees" to several championships in inter-bank tournaments. I used to tag along to their games because my father was HSBC's playing coach. From what I understand, some of my dad's teammates as well as those from the other banks were varsity players in college who finished their degree but did not get to play or play minimally in the commercial leagues at the time like the MICAA or PBA. Since they have a degree, they landed jobs in the banking industry.


Hi. May father, Edgar Arceo, who played for San Beda from 59-63 went straight to Hongkong Bank and played in this league with a couple of his teammates from College. I'm sure your Dad knows mine. Cheers.

jsa
08-14-2009, 09:55 AM
mga sir bros., anyone here who recalls or knows who were the NCAA champs of 1959? From what my uncle told me, he only remembers who the team captains of some teams were at that time: Ramon Ascue of San Beda College, Kurt Bachmann of La Salle, Manuel Panlilio of Letran, Carlos Mandilag of Mapua & Abelardo Ortiz of JRC.

¡ánimo San Beda!

SAN BEDA.

Kasama dyan sa Red Lion team ay ang notorius na si Pepe Oyson. "Don Pepe" wore the number 7 jersey back then for San Beda.


Yes, it was San Beda. I believe my father, a rookie from Batangas City, was part of this team. Maybe more info could be shed about this year and this team. Thanks.

danny
08-25-2009, 02:07 AM
^^^

Animo! Child of a RED LION!

BedanRoar
08-25-2009, 07:28 AM
mga sir bros., anyone here who recalls or knows who were the NCAA champs of 1959? From what my uncle told me, he only remembers who the team captains of some teams were at that time: Ramon Ascue of San Beda College, Kurt Bachmann of La Salle, Manuel Panlilio of Letran, Carlos Mandilag of Mapua & Abelardo Ortiz of JRC.

¡ánimo San Beda!

SAN BEDA.

Kasama dyan sa Red Lion team ay ang notorius na si Pepe Oyson. "Don Pepe" wore the number 7 jersey back then for San Beda.


Yes, it was San Beda. I believe my father, a rookie from Batangas City, was part of this team. Maybe more info could be shed about this year and this team. Thanks.


I think this team was also joined by Big Boy Reynoso, Eddie Rivera, Ceasar 'Spinning J" Jota, Orly Castello, Tata Carranceja?.....Will check more about this.

danny
09-10-2009, 09:03 AM
very true indeed. during our time in 80`s nauso un chant sa rizal na SUSMARYOSEP... AND NOTE THAT EVEN OUR BELOVED SCHOOL'S( SAN BEDA) SENIORS TEAM THEN WAS NOT THAT COMPETITIVE BEDANS WOULD FILL ONE SIDE OF THE COLISEUM. during this period din when mas well attended ang NCAA compared to the other league except of course kung magkalaban un dalawa. nagbago lang lahat lately.. i've been following most of the forums but very seldom that i share my opinion. but this time i feel sharing with you what i wish for my beloved school this season 85. first, that we defend our crown and prove to the NCAA community our domination, then that we be open to the idea of having our beloved SAN BEDA to where it should be competing.. but we should focus first on defending the crown and hopefully a graceful exit. PAX!


This chant first came about in 1978, IIRC, in the celebrations after SBC won the 2nd sudden death match for the second round flag vs Dela Salle at the Rizal Memorial. It was a cleanly fought match devoid of hooliganism, so unlike the first sudden death match vs. Letran. But the intensity of the games was matched by the heat of the coliseum, hence the chant.





Which eventually became an NCAA staple during the Rizal Memorial days. Sarap pagpawisan habang wala ka nang boses sa kakasigaw! Hardcore. Traditional. No commercial interruptions. Pure unadulterated fun! ;D

Emon74
10-15-2009, 01:42 PM
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/2553/scan0047.jpg

Game 1 of the 1987 NCAA Finals, Letran vs SSC.

Emon74
10-15-2009, 01:44 PM
http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/4162/scan0046.jpg

riou
01-26-2010, 05:33 PM
guys!

students and alumni ng admu-dlsu-san beda and letran! join with us! we are students and alumni that likes so much to watch our schools,and mahilig kme magkwentuhan after and during games! we watch every UAAP and NCAA games pag libre kme! magkakasama kme nanunuod basta letran, beda, ateneo and lasalle!

hope you join us!! lets rekindle the rivalries!

ESCALERA JR.
02-02-2010, 03:43 PM
riou, why not !..even just wishful thinking...a nice idea pero di ba delikadong magsama-sama mga yan...lalo na't may kasamang inuman...haha at siyempre alaskahan.
kelangan may riot squad na standbyb...just in case.
ANIMO/DERECHO/FIGHT/ARRIBA!

riou
02-03-2010, 09:05 AM
yes sir! keo po ba wat skul are you from po pla?

plano ko magmeet forumers dto from san beda, letran, ateneo and lasalle students and alumni para maplano naten!

riou
02-03-2010, 09:14 AM
Hahaha peace naman tau! cgro naman we are all just enjoying now those rivallries nlng naman. I have friends in lasalle and san beda there both pepsquads and every game ma paa game ng ateneo and lasalle pa yan at san beda letran after game inom,kwentuhan always sa mga games at kulitan lang gnagawa namen! hahahaha ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

ESCALERA JR.
02-04-2010, 10:43 AM
come and visit our thread here and feel free to post anything under the sun... but no bashing ha!
ARRIBA!

riou
02-10-2010, 03:33 PM
magorganize tau ng malakihang gathering ng 4 schools!!

Knightof Letran
02-20-2010, 06:23 PM
ARRIBA LETRANISTA!!!

riou
02-22-2010, 10:33 AM
ARRIBA!

ESCALERA JR.
02-23-2010, 02:14 PM
brod. riou, just a friendly reminder to refrain from using text speak here in gameface.

APAT na Buwan na lang, NCAA/UAAP na naman!

Emon74
02-26-2010, 04:53 PM
NCAA DREAM GAMES IN U.S., TOO
Reprint from hoop notes dated October 21-28, 1988

In a recent issue of the Los Angeles edition of the weekly broadsheet Philippine News, we found out interest in National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) basketball revivals was high in California.
In November last year, a "dream game" was organized pitting alumni from Ateneo and La Salle. The Blue Eagles, coached by ex-PBA guard Rene Canent, beat the Archers, 76-65, before a sellout crowd. Named the game's Most Valuable Player was former Ateneo forward Horacio (Ace) Moreno who saw action in four seasons with Tanduay in the PBA in the 1970s. Moreno, now 36, played his final game in the local league in 1978.
A few months back, another NCAA revival was held at the Bellflower Park and Recreation Center in Southern California. The gym, located at the corner of Rosecrans and Bellflower Boulevard, was the setting of an NCAA oldtimers doubleheader.
The first match saw alumni from San Beda and Ateneo slug it out. The Eagles roster listed Ed Uy as skipper, Moreno, Boy Sales, Bart Gamboa, Ding and Bacchus Camus, Mon Roco, Rey Leonor, Eddie Moreno, Jun Camacho, Roy Franco, Tito Roa, Ateneo de Naga representative Dale Caguco, and 6-5 center Ed Rivas.
The Bedan squad was made up of Totoy Gagan, Milo Prado, Ray Santos, Adi Dalton, Adrian Gomez, Danny Tejada, and the Genato brothers Troy, Jordan and Andy. Coach was Erwin Felipe.
A few days before the game, organizers were asking Francis Arnaiz, now based in San Francisco, to play for the Ateneo team. in the second contest, an NCAA selection squared off with the Mapua Alumni led by Ronald Canent and Ding Lipata. The all-stars were headed by Rene Canent.
According to Philippine News correspondent Dan Nino, the game featured cheering squads, raffles, giving away of door prices, MVP trophies, and a three-point shootout competition.
It looks like the NCAA spirit remains very much alive with Filipino alumni even overseas. In New York recently, La Salle and Ateneo graduates also played in a revival basketball game with the Eagles notching a victory before a big crowd that included alumni living even in faraway New Jersey.

riou
03-02-2010, 07:26 AM
Nice I hope there will be lots of reunion games not just outside but also here in the philippines! siyempre nandito talaga lahat tayo mga taga old NCAA eh! ;D ;D ;D

danny
07-25-2010, 12:07 AM
Hindi ko nalam. Farewell.

--------------------------------

Cesar Jota dies at 76
BY: JECK PON-AN

FORMER RED LION Cesar ?Spinning J? Jota passed away last June 3 at the Makati Medical Center at the age of 76.

Jota played with the great Carlos Loyzaga for the San Beda Red Lions during the 1950?s. He was also hailed as the hero of the 1955 Crispulo Zamora Cup for his exploits during the game against former archrival, Ateneo de Manila University.

He suffered from cerebrovascular disease or more popularly known as stroke.

In an interview, Moses Lazaro, grandson of Jota, recounted the events prior to his grandfather?s death.

?I was actually at home when I got the call from my uncle. I was on leave that day from work. He asked me if my dad was in [our house] and I said no. He told me that my grandfather was in the hospital. Kasi sinabihan sila [ng doktor] na few hours na lang at baka pumanaw na [ang lolo ko],? he stated.

He also shared the family?s feelings and thoughts on the misfortune of his grandfather.

?Well, definitely the family felt a huge wave of sadness when we heard about it. We really never got to talk about his plays during college. Apart from his extraordinary skills in the field of basketball, I can say that he was of course a good provider for his family, a loving husband, a good father, and an inspiration to all young athletes of this era,? he said.

More, Lazaro addressed a personal message to the supporters of Jota and said that in order to excel in life, an individual should be a team player in everything he does.

?[If] you want something great to happen, you got to work for it. And it shows with how he played the game. Team player ka dapat. You cannot have the ball all the time ? pass it to your other teammates. This applies to whatever field you get in [life]. You may have the markings of a great player but if you do not know how to work with people, you are not going to go very far,? he affirmed.

In addition, Jota?s family expressed their gratitude to the support that they have received and asked the Bedan community to pray for the soul of Jota.

?We ask that you say a prayer for him and his family. Thank you for everyone?s support through the ordeal. We know that he is in a happy place, free from pain and suffering and is together with our mom and our Lord, Jesus Christ,? they elaborated.

The Bedan would also like to express its sympathies and condolences to the family of the legendary Red Lion, Cesar Jota.

(with Anthon Borja)

Stardust
07-25-2010, 01:42 PM
Danny,

I was able to listen to Ceasar's eulogies delivered during the last night of his wake. Majority of the speakers mentioned an anecdote or two about his playing days, most notably Tata Caranceja (SBCHS57 and Col 61). Ceasar and Tata were neighbors in Merville and had been life time buddies. I got to know them through a Bedan neighbor-buddy who was Caesar's GS classmate in SBC.

Through the same neighbor-buddy I got to meet other Bedans too who were residents of Merville. Though I'm very much their junior (I being of SBC GS73 & HS77) I was never out of place in their gatherings and banter. I felt at home being with these brethren.

I hope this is not OT. The thread is about "kickin... old school" and this particular personal experience I believe is a manifestation of what school camaraderie and bond are all about.

Incidentally the day of the eulogy was Ceasar's last night (wake) and it was also the day of our last game in the FilOil. After the game, I told Fr. Bas of Ceasar's passing and he relayed that the RLs were paying their respects that same night. I wasn't able to catch them in the wake but it was very touching to know our young Lions paying their respect to an old-timer who was very much like them then.

Ora et Labora.

Emon74
08-16-2010, 09:45 AM
Cesar Jota was a former coach of Alaska in the PBA during its maiden year, 1986, he succeeded an Atenean Tony Vasquez, who passed on that same year.

BedanRoar
08-16-2010, 01:10 PM
Yup...He was popularly known as the "Spinning J"!

bhinov
08-28-2010, 02:19 PM
Ayos dito, dami ko nalaman mula sa inyo mga kuya/tito? ;D Biro lang.

Emon74
07-07-2011, 02:53 PM
http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x433/Emon74/NCAA%20Photos/scan0022.jpg

1995 NCAA Season.

Mel
07-07-2011, 02:55 PM
^ Rommel Daep and Ralph Rivera?

Emon74
07-12-2011, 03:24 PM
http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x433/Emon74/NCAA%20Photos/scan0001.jpg

Reminiscing, 1990 NCAA opening.

Mel
07-12-2011, 03:27 PM
I think Mapua also won the men's basketball title that year :)

The_Big_Cat
07-12-2011, 04:06 PM
I think Mapua also won the men's basketball title that year :)


Yup. Last year of Chito Victolero, Kevin Ramas and lefty forward Bong Marasigan.
I think that is Randy Alcantara from the photo above?

Emon74
07-12-2011, 09:44 PM
I think Mapua also won the men's basketball title that year :)


Yup. Last year of Chito Victolero, Kevin Ramas and lefty forward Bong Marasigan.
I think that is Randy Alcantara from the photo above?


I was wondering who is that tall guy from Mapua, thats why I posted this, so it must be Randy Alcantara.

MonL
07-25-2011, 08:40 PM
It was 1978. The Red Lions were the defending NCAA Senior Basketball Champions. Ateneo had already left for the UAAP, but Dela Salle’s Green Archers and the Letran Knights stepped up to take a shot at the title. It was during this time that the Lions made their own bid for NCAA history by trying to sweep the tournament, but lost to pressure and the Knights in their twelfth and final game of the regular season. By having identical 5-1 records in the second round, San Beda, Letran and Dela Salle went into sudden death playoff matches, with the Lions exacting sweet revenge on the Knights in a bruising, fight-marred match and later defeating the Green Archers in a classic final game to win the 1978 championship.

But probably the most dramatic game that I watched during that season was the penultimate Game #11 wherein the then still undefeated Lions played the Green Archers. I judged it as the best game that year because of what happened in the last five seconds of the game.

The shoe was now on the other foot; the Red Lions had the deepest bench in the NCAA at that time; and practically everyone wanted to knock them down from the top of the hill.

San Beda was bannered by its carryovers from the 1977 champion team: Jayvee Yango, Chuck Barreiro, Ber Martin, Chito Loyzaga, the Guzman Twins, Noel and Joel, Luis Brill, Ric Dabu, Cholo Martin and Frankie Lim. The new recruits were 6-1 forward Elmer Reyes, 6-3 center Rolly Evangelista, 5-11 guard Manuel Manosa, and former Red Cubs 6-1 guard Gabby Lim, and 6-2 center Albert Bregendahl.

Dela Salle was powered mainly by its sweet shooting 6-2 forward Kenneth Yap, 5-9 spitfire guard Alex Marquez, point guard Gabby Liwag, 6-3 forward Aldo Perez, 6-0 guard Joel Uichico, and their powerful 6-3 RP Youth center Jay Lucido. Other players of note were guards William Ting and Elmo Tong, Greg Bichara and 6-3 former Red Cub center Eugene Navarrette. The Archers then were coached by Joaquin “Wacky” Trillo.

It was a fiercely fought match, with furious ties and lead exchanges. La Salle’s Kenneth Yap and Alex Marquez carried the scoring load, with Lucido manning the frontline; the trio was supported by Perez and Uichico. The Lions got great games from Barreiro and the Guzman Twins; Yango and Loyzaga battled La Salle’s big men all throughout.

With about ten seconds to go, Jayvee Yango grabbed a mighty rebound and made a putback bucket to put the Lions ahead by a point, 88-87, and the Bedan gallery exploded with cheers; and all the spectators from both schools watching at the Rizal Coliseum stood up for a thrilling end. The game wasn’t over yet, as La Salle made a last-ditch all-out push to win the game.

The Archers quickly inbounded to a fastbreaking Alex Marquez who quickly speeded downcourt to challenge the still forming Red Lions defense. As he drove in for a layup with two seconds left, from out of nowhere center Rolly Evangelista leaped straight high up and blocked his shot, and Barreiro collared the loose ball and held on to it for dear life as time expired. Bedlam ensued at the Rizal Coliseum that afternoon, and the Red Lions passed through a wringer to keep their slate clean for the time being.

Scores:
SBC 88 - Yango 28, Loyzaga 18, NGuzman 10, Barreiro 10, JGuzman 10, BMartin 4, Evangelista 4, FLim 2, CMartin 2

DLSU 87 – Marquez 24, Lucido 21, Yap 14, Perez 12, Uichico 10, Liwag 4, Tong 0, Ting 0, Navarrete 0



A deja vu of sorts happened in the SBC-CSB game last friday. My cup runneth over. :)

riou
08-09-2011, 08:27 AM
O kamusta na mga old schoolers natin dito sa NCAA?? ;D

BedanRoar
08-09-2011, 09:12 AM
It was 1978. The Red Lions were the defending NCAA Senior Basketball Champions. Ateneo had already left for the UAAP, but Dela Salle’s Green Archers and the Letran Knights stepped up to take a shot at the title. It was during this time that the Lions made their own bid for NCAA history by trying to sweep the tournament, but lost to pressure and the Knights in their twelfth and final game of the regular season. By having identical 5-1 records in the second round, San Beda, Letran and Dela Salle went into sudden death playoff matches, with the Lions exacting sweet revenge on the Knights in a bruising, fight-marred match and later defeating the Green Archers in a classic final game to win the 1978 championship.

But probably the most dramatic game that I watched during that season was the penultimate Game #11 wherein the then still undefeated Lions played the Green Archers. I judged it as the best game that year because of what happened in the last five seconds of the game.

The shoe was now on the other foot; the Red Lions had the deepest bench in the NCAA at that time; and practically everyone wanted to knock them down from the top of the hill.

San Beda was bannered by its carryovers from the 1977 champion team: Jayvee Yango, Chuck Barreiro, Ber Martin, Chito Loyzaga, the Guzman Twins, Noel and Joel, Luis Brill, Ric Dabu, Cholo Martin and Frankie Lim. The new recruits were 6-1 forward Elmer Reyes, 6-3 center Rolly Evangelista, 5-11 guard Manuel Manosa, and former Red Cubs 6-1 guard Gabby Lim, and 6-2 center Albert Bregendahl.

Dela Salle was powered mainly by its sweet shooting 6-2 forward Kenneth Yap, 5-9 spitfire guard Alex Marquez, point guard Gabby Liwag, 6-3 forward Aldo Perez, 6-0 guard Joel Uichico, and their powerful 6-3 RP Youth center Jay Lucido. Other players of note were guards William Ting and Elmo Tong, Greg Bichara and 6-3 former Red Cub center Eugene Navarrette. The Archers then were coached by Joaquin “Wacky” Trillo.

It was a fiercely fought match, with furious ties and lead exchanges. La Salle’s Kenneth Yap and Alex Marquez carried the scoring load, with Lucido manning the frontline; the trio was supported by Perez and Uichico. The Lions got great games from Barreiro and the Guzman Twins; Yango and Loyzaga battled La Salle’s big men all throughout.

With about ten seconds to go, Jayvee Yango grabbed a mighty rebound and made a putback bucket to put the Lions ahead by a point, 88-87, and the Bedan gallery exploded with cheers; and all the spectators from both schools watching at the Rizal Coliseum stood up for a thrilling end. The game wasn’t over yet, as La Salle made a last-ditch all-out push to win the game.

The Archers quickly inbounded to a fastbreaking Alex Marquez who quickly speeded downcourt to challenge the still forming Red Lions defense. As he drove in for a layup with two seconds left, from out of nowhere center Rolly Evangelista leaped straight high up and blocked his shot, and Barreiro collared the loose ball and held on to it for dear life as time expired. Bedlam ensued at the Rizal Coliseum that afternoon, and the Red Lions passed through a wringer to keep their slate clean for the time being.

Scores:
SBC 88 - Yango 28, Loyzaga 18, NGuzman 10, Barreiro 10, JGuzman 10, BMartin 4, Evangelista 4, FLim 2, CMartin 2

DLSU 87 – Marquez 24, Lucido 21, Yap 14, Perez 12, Uichico 10, Liwag 4, Tong 0, Ting 0, Navarrete 0



A deja vu of sorts happened in the SBC-CSB game last friday. My cup runneth over. :)


Manuel "Manolet" Manosa was my friend...This is to inform you that he passed away a few months ago.

toti_mendiola
08-09-2011, 09:42 AM
RIP manolet

Emon74
02-19-2012, 09:27 PM
There is so much stories out there about the 1950s , 60s and 70s that have become part of the NCAA lore.

I really want to know something about the NCAA circa 1930s.


From the article NCAA before the war by Julian Malonzo, former President, Philippine Olympic Committee, among the mainstays of the 1931-1933 Ateneo NCAA champion team were Bibiano Ouano, Primitivo and Celestino Martinez.
The San Beda College senior basketball team was NCAA champion in school year 1934-1935, members were Blonde "Bombshell" Borck, German half-breed, Antonio Carillo who played for FEU later, He refereed boxing bouts, center Ramon Lloret, transferred to Ateneo later, guard Angel dela Paz, Manuel Vistan, the movie actor from Bocaue, bulacan, Antonio Zaragosa, brother of architech Jose.
That San Beda team defeated Ateneo in the championship game, two known players from Ateneo were Amador Obordo (Olympic player to the 1936 games in Berlin) who later coach Ateneo in the 1940s, was killed in Bellevue moviehouse on Hermi street (now Pedro Gil). and Armando Eduque, brother of Tito Eduque, and first husband of Elvira Manahan.

Emon74
11-16-2013, 05:14 PM
NCAA '85
Stags end 12-year title-drought

Year 1973 was a glorious year for San Sebastian Stags as they clinched their first-ever NCAA basketball championship, SSC, then bannered by the likes of Dave Supnet, Benjie Cleofas, Norbie Rivera, and oh yes, Francis Rodriguez, lorded it over the rest of the field.
In 1983, San Sebastian made a big leap from the cellar to second place behind eventual champion Letran Knights. Last year, SSC finished in the same spot. Because of this two bridesmaid finishes, SSC management realized that the team needed something more to finally snare the NCAA championship. And that something was preparation.
Several changes took place on the San Sebastian bench. Four years ago, Orly Castelo took over the coaching reins from Ning Ramos, Still, in 1982, San Sebastian failed to make a headway, the following year, Castelo took in brother-in-law Francis Rodriguez as Assistant coach.
To hone up for the 1985 NCAA season, San Sebastian participated in the Metro Manila Basketball League, the Baguio Challenge to Champions, and the PABL, The Stags also went to Guam to participate in the Asia-Pacific Invitationals. In between these preparations, Orly Castelo resigned in order to concentrateon pro ballclub Tanduay.
In all the tournaments that it participated prior to the NCAA 1985 season, SSC fared creditably, It copped the MMBL crown, finished second in the Challenge to Champions, and emerged as the best school team in the PABL, In Guam, it bowed with dignity to top foreign teams. And so, when the curtains were raised on the 61st edition of the NCAA, San Sebastian was undeniably the pre-tournament favorite. Hopes for a Letran victory vanished as the Knights lost five of its key players, notable of which was Samboy Lim.
Last Sunday, the spirit of 1973 pervaded throughout the Rizal Memorial Coliseum as San Sebastian supporters filled the gallery eagerly hoping for an end to the twelve-year title-drought. And the end did come for the Stags. Victory was even sweeter as the Stags drubbed defending champion Letran, 90-84 for the NCAA championship. San Sebastian, which topped the first round, needed the win badly in order to cop the crown outright without going through the complications of figuring in a four-way tie for the second round flag. Had SSC lost to Letran, it would have closed out with a 3-2 won-loss slate, the same at that of Trinity College and newcomer Perpetual Help College of Rizal.
San Sebastian also came close to a 10-game sweep. However, it incurred its only setback at the hands of tailender Jose Rizal College on the first day of the second round. "I feel great" said Francis Rodriguez, "The feeling is much better this time around than it was 12 years ago, In 1973, I was only a rookie, I hardly saw action, Now, I'm the one calling the shots."
However, Rodriguez assailed the selection of the league's Most Valuable Player. Adjudged MVP was Mapua Tech's Alvin Patrimonio. "Thers's no doubt Patrimonio is good. He is an outstanding center. But for the past three years, when Letran won three straight championships, the MVPs were Letranites, Now is the first time in so many years that SSC won the title but the MVP did not come from our school."

Emon74
05-09-2014, 10:24 AM
SBC's incomparable 4 great horsemen (Written in 1980)

Charles Borck, the blond bombshell; Antonio Carillo, Jesus Marzan and the late Angel De La Paz. They were called "Four Great Horsemen" because they were sparkplugs of the SBC cage team that won many titles. Borck, Carillo, Marzan and Dela Paz sizzled and burned the hardcourt like road flares on a windy night. sometimes the original appellation was changed to "Five Great Horsemen" to include Manuel (Manoli) Zervoulakus.
These were the players, who, like their biblical namesake (The four horsemen of the Apocalypse), spread panic and dissension in the ranks of their opponents. These were the cagers who gave San Beda College the 1934, 1935, and 1936 collegiate diadems and 1936 National Open Crown.
During the 1930s, the center play or tip-off play was in vogue. After every field goal there was a jump-ball in the center of the hardcourt. This type of play called for a very good center or slot man. This key task was ably performed by Jesus Marzan, a six-footer, who was the best man for that job in those days. Marzan also scintillated as center of the Philippine quintet that placed fifth in the 1936 Olympics in Berlin.
The teams of the 1930s were defense-oriented, basketball was a rough and tumble game in those years and players had to have stamina. The blond bombshell, as Borck was often called, once scored a MICAA record of 40 points in one game as a member of the Williams Equipment team in 1946. A flashy ballhandler, he could dribble from court to court and elude his guards by zig-zagging, his specialties are the lay-up and the quarter-court shot. He was also a long-tom artist.
Borck's scoring partner was diminutive Antonio Carillo, a 5-7 ballhawk, his specialty was the jacknife drive. Team captain Angel Dela Paz was a guard par excellence, he delivered in the clutches and had a steadying influence on his teammates whenever the chips were down. He was a good playmaker and an excellent court general. The fifth horsemen, Manoli Zervoulakus is remembered for his uncanny ability to anticipated plays. The four great horsemen also received able support from the rest of the fleet-footed Bedan crew: J.Vistan, J.Sanchez, Tony De la Paz (brother of Angel), and P. De La Vera. coach Martin Dino (who later mentored the FEU Tamaraws to many titles), then the top bench tactician, called the shots for the Redshirts.
The four great horsemen first caught the attention of the fans in 1934 when they engineered a clicking Mendiola quintet into the NCAA championship, dethroning the powerful Ateneo squad. The NCAA that year had powerhouse quintets.
Ateneo had Dick Francisco, Fermin "the brown bomber" Fernando, Tony Montenegro, Simon Lao, Jesus Arce and Manuel Cuervo.
Letran had Fely Fajardo, Guillermo Salvador, Oscar Gamban and Jose De Leon.
Jose Rizal College fielded Narciso Sangle, Salvador Siao, Tonacio and Carranza.
Mapua was scintillating because it had the Ray brothers, Tantorres brothers and Santos Ret.
La Salle could boast of Juancho Lao and Bing Avila among others.
But the Bedans, powered by the four Great Horsemen, could not be denied.

Emon74
01-14-2015, 07:34 PM
1985 NCAA scoring parade (First round, player averages, total of 5 games)

Reynaldo Castillo (JRC) 22.60 ppg
Alvin Patrimonio (MIT) 22.40 ppg
Edgar Macaraya (SSC) 21.60 ppg
Joselito Naredo (MIT) 21.00 ppg
Fernando Libed (Letran) 20.40 ppg
Enerito Sebial (Trinity) 19.60 ppg
Rene Hawkins (PHCR) 19.60 ppg
Galvin Collantes (SSC) 17.80 ppg
Mar Anthony Magada (Trinity) 17.20 ppg
Gerardo Santiago (MIT) 16.75 ppg *4 games
Salvador Ramos (Letran) 15.80 ppg
Arturo Versoza (Trinity) 15.20 ppg
Justino Pinat (Letran) 15.00 ppg

Emon74
03-29-2015, 08:25 PM
1948 NCAA senior championship:

Jose Rizal, coach by Mateo Adao, beat Mapua in the best of three series, the Heavy Bombers squad were Kiko Calilan, Ding Fulgencio, Fidencio Ylagan, Guillermo Victoria, Eddie Santiago, Fabio Santos, Col.Herrera and Slats Gomez.