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gameface_one
02-01-2007, 12:54 AM
Thought of posting here the latest article of Sam Miguel from his column in the Homepage to further entice more dicsussions about the possible top high school senior players for this year's collegiate season.




STARS IN WAITING
By Sam Miguel as posted in Gameface.ph

Basketball, as with all sports, has always had its pantheon of heroes and greats, the men who have made the sport great and who have achieved that greatest of personal accolades, stardom. Each generation has its share of stars who go on to make names for themselves quite apart from adding an all new dimension to the greatest game ever invented.

In our great country we are fortunate to have been given the likes of Caloy “The Big Difference” Loyzaga, Cristino “Stretch” Arroyo, Robert “The Big J” Jaworski, “El Presidente” Ramon Fernandez, Allan “Triggerman” Caidic, Samboy “Skywalker” Lim, “The Captain” Alvin Patrimonio, “The Tower of Power” Benjie Paras, Johnny “Flying A” Abarrientos, “The Skyscraper” Marlou Aquino, Kenneth “Captain Marbel” Duremdes, and the latest generation that include Eric Menk, Asi Taulava, Willie Miller, Mark Caguioa and Enrico Villanueva.

One generation of stars will eventually give way to the next, ensuring that the country is never bereft of primetime talent in its favorite game. That next generation is now cutting its teeth in the hardcore circuits of amateur hoopdom. Yousif Al Jamal, Jason Castro, Floyd Dedicatoria, Ken Bono, JC Intal, Rico Maeirhofer, Jonas Villanueva and a whole host of other amateur stars are proving that as long as hardcore ball exists, the country will never have a talent deficit in basketball.

But the truly great thing about basketball is that stardom exists at almost every level. A lot of hardcore hoops junkies are taking a good long look at the graduating high school class now and you will see the next generation of stars already strutting their stuff and giving all of us a glimpse of the undiminished brightness of our collective basketball future.

Surfing through the Forums of Gameface.ph, the Philippines’ only media portal for Philippine Amateur Basketball discussing the next college ball seasons, several young ballers graduating from high school this year seem poised to become the next great stars of hardcore hoopdom, the ones you will be lustily cheering for in the UAAP and NCAA. Here are the most mentioned.



DAVID MARCELO, 6’5” 195 pounds, San Beda
High School Position: Center
Likely College Position: Power Forward/Center
Degree of Transition: Will make a minimal transition; if he grows another inch and fills out to 215 pounds he could become a fulltime center even into the pros
Most Likely College: San Beda (San Beda is expectedly hell bent on keeping him to reenforce their already formidable frontline in the Seniors level)
Other Likely College Destination/s: Ateneo De Manila, University of the Philippines (Anyone with this much potential cannot escape the notice of other big programs, and Ateneo and UP have had great success with their San Beda pipeline)


Dave Marcelo has been touted as the “next Benjie Paras” by some scouts. It isn’t hard to imagine given his strength and agility. However he does not yet quite have the meanness and toughness of the original Tower of Power. Still, with his rare combination of size, agility and strength, he would be a great asset to any college team. Marcelo has above average post moves and can run the floor like any Ato Badolato-trained player. He will need to work harder on his timing on defense and rebounding though – most of his rebounds and blocks at the high school level are more because of his size – or he will foul out quickly against the faster, stronger and bigger college post players.





BACON AUSTRIA, 6’1” 185 pounds, Ateneo De Manila
High School Position: Power Forward/Small Forward
Likely College Position: Small Forward/Off Guard
Degree of Transition: Was an Off Guard as a kid, has the fundamentals to switch back to the swing position
Most Likely College: Ateneo De Manila (Already in Ateneo’s Fr. Martin Cup 3 lineup)
Other Likely College Destination/s: University of the Philippines

Being a coach’s son indeed has its advantages, especially if said coach also happens to be one of the great guards in Philippine hoopdom. Unlike other kids his size Raymond “Bacon” Austria has a full complement of skills that allow him to play and transition easily from the perimeter to the post. His ball handling and passing are above average for a guard and superior for a forward, while his mass and strength allow him to bull his way against leaner players in the post. This rare combination saw him win the UAAP Season 69 Juniors MVP award going away while leading Ateneo to the Juniors Title. This kind of package would give college coaches a lot of flexibility when using him on the floor.



FERDINAND, 6’4” 190 pounds, La Salle Greenhills
High School Position: Center
Likely College Position: Power Forward/Center
Degree of Transition: Will still play the post in college; has the strength and the thickness to get the job done; will have to adjust to the more athletic big men in college though
Most Likely College: De La Salle University (Does not seem to have any other school in mind for college)
Other Likely College Destination/s: College of St. Benilde (Just in case he’d rather stay in the NCAA)

While most kids in Indonesia were getting into football, Ferdinand simply outgrew a lot of his playmates and soon found himself away from the pitch and on to the hardwood court. With his broad shoulders and powerful legs Ferdinand can easily dominate the inside, and he may not have to change positions much when he makes it to the college level. His width and strength allow him to get and hold position easily, although this may not come so easily against the big boys of the college game. Still, he brings above average to superior athletic ability in a strapping package.





MIKE GAMBOA, 5’6” 155 pounds, Ateneo De Manila
High School Position: Point Guard
Likely College Position: Point Guard
Degree of Transition: None
Most Likely College: University of the Philippines (Not quite in the same league as the BJ Manalo defection but could come back to haunt Ateneo; already reportedly practicing with the Maroons)
Other Likely College Destination/s: Ateneo De Manila (Returnees aren’t a big thing in Loyola Heights but Gamboa may become the exception)

Basketball is supposedly a big man’s game, but don’t tell Mike Gamboa that. This stocky but speedy guard negates every kind of size advantage with his electric speed and ability to cut up any kind of defense, making him a one-man press break. He has all the requisite guard skills at high levels – passing, handling, breaking the press, creating off the dribble, running the plays, perimeter shooting – and he is as tough as they come, both physically and mentally, something he put on full display in the Nike Summer Hoops Camp All Star Game in Taiwan. He could become the next big revelation in the college game.






SOCRATES RIVERA, 6’5” 170 pounds, Far Eastern FERN
High School Position: Center
Likely College Position: Power Forward/Small Forward
Degree of Transition: Minimal; won’t get the easy ones at the Power Forward/Small Forward in college like he did as a Center in high school but has the tools to get it done
Most Likely College: Far Eastern University (FEU is rebuilding and he is easily their best young prospect)
Other Likely College Destination/s: University of the Philippines (There are accounts of tryouts in Diliman so don’t be surprised if ever)

With his length and athleticism, Soc Rivera is a truly complete package. Were he not sharing the FEU FERN frontcourt with two other young fellows his size he could easily have led the UAAP Juniors Division in every meaningful statistical category. Rivera seems to just glide on the floor and elevate with ease to shoot, snatch rebounds and block shots. He reminds a lot of scouts of a young Arwind Santos, but with a more advanced offense at the same stage of their careers.




ERWIN DURAN, 6’5” 180 pounds, University of the East
High School Position: Center
Likely College Position: Power Forward/Center
Degree of Transition: Minimal, may even become a fulltime center right off the bat considering UE’s difficulties at the pivot (they don’t have one)
Most Likely College: University of the East (So low key that he has attracted little attention from other schools)
Other Likely College Destination/s: De La Salle University, Far Eastern University, University of Santo Tomas (Should the Pumaren connection kick in he may find himself in the Archers rotation along with Ferdinand; on the other hand Pido Jarencio is reportedly keen on getting him as another versatile big man)

While scouts were drooling over big man prospects from the high school class of 2007 they were likely doing so over the FEU FERN troika. Meanwhile Erwin Duran put together the best statistical line over the course of Season 69 while carrying the UE Pages on his back and almost into the Final 4. His numbers were better than any other player in the division. If he had better support the Pages may have been the ones hoisting a championship trophy. His name has not been mentioned as often as the FEU boys, which suits the UE Warriors just fine.




JONAS PAGUIA, 6’5” 180 pounds, Far Eastern FERN
High School Position: Center/Power Forward
Likely College Position: Power Forward/Center
Degree of Transition: None
Most Likely College: Far Eastern University (You can never get enough big men in the college game, especially with a big man-oriented program like FEU)
Other Likely College Destination/s: University of the Philippines, De La Salle (Reports say he’s been to the tryouts at Diliman along with other Baby Tams; some reports had it that the late Gido Babilonia was trying to get him a tryout with the Archers)

Jonas Paguia is one reason Soc Rivera could not get MVP-type numbers. But where Rivera is a livewire of athletic ability, Paguia has a relatively more straightforward and subdued game. He brings a lot of the same skills Paguia has but in a slightly bigger and stronger package. Think of him as Mark Isip or Gerard Jones, a big man who possesses more than the typical big man skills. Paguia could become the glue guy that teams covet with his unassuming demeanor and intense play.



MARK LOPEZ, 6’3” 160 pounds, Far Eastern FERN
High School Position: Power Forward/Small Forward
Likely College Position: Small Forward
Degree of Transition: Will need to get more meat on his rail of a body to match up physically against college wingmen; will be a pain to match up as an Off Guard though
Most Likely College: Far Eastern University (FEU has succeeded with tall swingmen in the last couple of years)
Other Likely College Destination/s: University of the Philippines

One of the toughest positions to fill in basketball is the small forward or 3-spot. This is usually reserved for the best athlete and the most versatile player, someone not confined to the de rigeur size or strength considerations. Mark Lopez is a prototypical 3, with the length, size, athletic ability and agility at high levels across the board. This is one player who won’t have any trouble making the transition to the toughest skill position in college, and he has the tools to be a 2-guard in a very tall lineup, making him a very hot swingman prospect. If he were a more natural shooter from three point range he could become the next RJ Rizada.






KIRK LONG, 6’0” 150 pounds, Faith Academy
High School Position: Point Guard/Off Guard
Likely College Position: Point Guard/Off Guard
Degree of Transition: None
Most Likely College: Ateneo De Manila
Other Likely College Destination/s: Could go home to the US of A (He’s also one heck of a baseball player)

Kirk Long looks like he stepped out of the set of a 1960’s basketball movie, or a Rogers and Hammerstein musicale. But don’t let the looks deceive you, the kid can flat out play. With his size and skills he won’t need to make too much of a transition as a college guard. His biggest adjustment will have to be in the mental and physical toughness departments, since he’s never played against the kind of roughhouse competition of Philippine college ball as the star of Faith Academy.




JULIUS WONG, 6’1” 150 pounds, Letran
High School Position: Small Forward/Off Guard
Likely College Position: Off Guard/Small Forward
Degree of Transition: Could stand growing another inch or two and putting on another 10 pounds; also needs to work on his endurance and stamina to succeed at the next level
Most Likely College: Letran (Alumni boosters and fans would love to see him become a full fledged Knight)
Other Likely College Destination/s: University of the Philippines (Was reportedly trying out with the Fighting Maroons), Ateneo de Manila University

Letran has had a proud tradition of producing top athletes out of its junior basketball program, and Julius Wong is just the latest in a long and outstanding line that includes JC Intal, JR Reyes and Ronjay Enrile. Wong is a natural scorer who can hit from the outside and slash into the lane even against the most compact zones. His speed and wiliness are virtually unmatched. He may need to upgrade his passing and handling skills to succeed at the college level though, where he may be asked to be a fulltime guard.





CARLO LITUANIA, 5’11” 150 pounds, Jose Rizal University
High School Position: Off Guard/Small Forward
Likely College Position: Off Guard/Point Guard
Degree of Transition: Can be productive as a fulltime guard at the next level; must upgrade his ballhandling and passing if he wants to play the 1 on a more fulltime basis though
Most Likely College: Jose Rizal University (Seems headed for the Heavy Bombers lineup unless some other schools come calling)
Other Likely College Destination/s: University of the East (May become the next Bon Bon Custodio, or at least the next Jorel Canizares, if Coach Dindo Pumaren puts their JRU pipeline to work and retool his backcourt)

Playing guard is the toughest thing to do in basketball because of the high demand for a superior skill set and high level of natural athletic ability. Forwards and centers can get away with merely being big and strong, but guards need to rely on smarts and speed to be effective. Carlo Lituania has all of those in spades. With just a bit more seasoning and the right kind of focused coaching and skills development he could become a sleeper hit as a guard in the college game.





GARVO LANETE, 5’10” 145 pounds, San Beda
High School Position: Off Guard
Likely College Position: Off Guard/Point Guard
Degree of Transition: Fits the mold of the classic combo-guard, will need to upgrade his handling and passing though if he will see minutes as a college pointguard
Most Likely College: San Beda College
Other Likely College Destination/s: University of the East (Coach Dindo Pumaren was able to nab a Red Cub star guard before, James Martinez, and with the loss of veterans like Bon Custodio and Rob Labagala, he will need to rebuild his backcourt)

Being under the radar isn’t such a bad thing. Expectations are nonexistent and there is no pressure to be “the man”. This has allowed Garvo Lanete to quietly develop his game. He is perhaps the best high school guard you have never heard of, which suits the famed Red Army just fine, since it keeps those pesky Quezon City scouts away. But then again Lanete may just decide to cross Legarda and join James Martinez in the UAAP. Oh well, at least they still wear red.



DEXTER ROSALES, 5’10” 145 pounds, Far Eastern FERN
High School Position: Off Guard/Point Guard
Likely College Position: Off Guard/Point Guard
Degree of Transition: Is really more of a 2-guard rather than a fulltime Point Guard, shoots better than he passes and is overwhelmingly one-handed, will have to unlearn then learn new things to succeed even as a part-time college Point Guard, has the tools to get it done
Most Likely College: University of the Philippines (Some reports have it that he is already a lock with the Fighting Maroons where he will join erstwhile Juniors Finals nemesis Mike Gamboa as UP’s backcourt of the future)
Other Likely College Destination/s: Far Eastern University (If things do not quite pan out in Diliman he can always go back home)

Dexter Rosales was a key factor in keeping the Baby Tams focused on their drive to the Season 69 Juniors Finals. His heady play kept FEU FERN in the thick of the Finals fight even against the fearsome Blue Eaglet press. While he has the requisite physical tools to become a top combo-guard at the college level, his minutes may come as a Point Guard, meaning he will have to learn to set up others first before looking for his own offense. In any event, the right kind of coaching should be able to get him on the right track.

Gil_Andrews
02-02-2007, 01:54 PM
Nice article Sam.

Just noticed that all of them are from the Metro Manila High Schools.

Do we have info about potential HS Seniors from the provinces who can give an A-game in the coming collegiate season?

yungha
02-02-2007, 04:00 PM
i'm a huge fan of erwin duran. solidly-built, explosive leap, good ballhandling, a total beast terrorizing the high school ranks. will be a productive 3 or 4 in college.

i think the heights are a bit inflated though. if rivera, duran and paguia are 6'5 then frank golla ought to be 6'5 too. mark lopez i think is just around bacon's height. but lopez has the most college-ready body for the position he'll play in college among these prospects.

LION
02-02-2007, 05:09 PM
I can understand why Red Cub Yulo is not in the list.* He played robin to Garvo Lanete. But me thinks that Yulo, a 6'1 combo guard,* has what it takes to excel in the collegiate arena.* Another Chris Calaguio in the making.* *

roydevesa
02-04-2007, 10:53 AM
why isn't pcu's pascual in the list? isn't he graduating this year?

LION
02-05-2007, 04:20 PM
Hello Sam,

Where oh where is Jamie Padilla, the numero uno point guard of the Red Cubs last season?

Padilla is a certified blue chipper. A 6'1 do-it-all point guard who can shoot the lights out if given the green light. This kid is a dynamo - hard to contain because of his almost complete offensive arsenal. He can slash and shoot from medium range to long range. He can also run a team smoothly if he isn't shooting well. This kid is so good he relegated LA Revilla to the role of a bench warmer.

Unfortunately, academic woes forced him to bolt out of San Beda High and go back to his former school, ICS, so he could graduate this year and play in the collegiate ranks.

Anyone who knows the latest about this kid?

Sam Miguel
02-05-2007, 06:01 PM
Hullo Lion.

Jamie Padilla, like Garvo Lanete, has been a bit under the radar, although I agree he is also among one of the most skilled players regardless of position in the Junior ranks. He plays a very smart game, very mature for a young lad like him. I know he will be a great asset to the Red Lions in the very near future.

I'd just like to say that this is not a definitive list, as there are of course many other great high school seniors. All of the players mentioned are actually those most often discussed in online forums and discussion boards like gameface.ph. Players like Dave Marcelo, Ferdinand and the 2006-07 Baby Tams are all over the Net. The likes of Julius Reyes of UST, Ken Acibar of Adamson and his teammate Ron Olalia also deserve mention but don't seem to be as talked about as the lads we've presented above.

If there are other graduating high school players out there you'd like to share with the gameface.ph community please go ahead in this space.

mighty_lion
02-05-2007, 07:07 PM
I cant believe Marcelo is lighter than me. Nakatabi ko na yan minsan, x 1.5 ko siguro. He is no way lighter than 230 pounds, I think.

Mateen Cleaves
02-05-2007, 08:27 PM
Hello Sam,

Where oh where is Jamie Padilla, the numero uno point guard of the Red Cubs last season?

Padilla is a certified blue chipper. A 6'1 do-it-all point guard who can shoot the lights out if given the green light. This kid is a dynamo - hard to contain because of his almost complete offensive arsenal. He can slash and shoot from medium range to long range. He can also run a team smoothly if he isn't shooting well. This kid is so good he relegated LA Revilla to the role of a bench warmer.

Unfortunately, academic woes forced him to bolt out of San Beda High and go back to his former school, ICS, so he could graduate this year and play in the collegiate ranks.

Anyone who knows the latest about this kid?


Naunahan mo ako, LION. I was just about to post his name kasi nga puro NCAA and UAAP pa lang ang mga nabi-build up. I only saw the kid play once --- in a try-out for the UP Maroons, but I came away very impressed... And I wasn't alone. His package of height, wingspan, and athleticism at the point guard position reminded many observers of another tall PG who's now beginning to blossom in the pros -- Jireh Ibañes. Definitely, UAAP/NCAA material if he can get his academics in order.

AnthonyServinio
02-05-2007, 11:55 PM
Hello Sam,

Where oh where is Jamie Padilla, the numero uno point guard of the Red Cubs last season?
* * *His correct name is Alvin Padilla* . . . probably mixed him up with teammate power forward Jamie Cruz.* *;D

LION
02-06-2007, 07:42 AM
Thanks Anthony. But I think I heard the other Cubs call him James.

So Mateen, nag try-out na pala sa UP si Alvin hehe. Mukhang marami kayong mapipitas ngayong taon na ito.

israeli
02-06-2007, 10:28 AM
^ LION, iba kasi kapag ang pangalan ng head coach ng team niyo ay Joe Lipa. ;D

teka, ano nang nangyari kay Alvin? is he still being haunted by academic deficiencies? ???

mighty_lion
02-06-2007, 11:18 AM
Buti na lang hindi Lottery Draft ang sistema sa NCAA and UAAP. ;D

Mateen Cleaves
02-06-2007, 11:57 AM
Thanks Anthony. But I think I heard the other Cubs call him James.

So Mateen, nag try-out na pala sa UP si Alvin hehe. Mukhang marami kayong mapipitas ngayong taon na ito.


James din nga ang narinig kong pangalan... di kaya kambal si Alvin at si James? ;D

Nag try-out minsan, pero hindi ko na nakita ulit... hindi ako magugulat kung bigla na lang sumulpot yan sa ibang UAAP school. Ang ganyang talent, hindi puedeng isikreto sa mga coaches. May kukuha at may kukuha diyan.

israeli
02-06-2007, 12:03 PM
James din nga ang narinig kong pangalan... di kaya kambal si Alvin at si James? ;D

Nag try-out minsan, pero hindi ko na nakita ulit... hindi ako magugulat kung bigla na lang sumulpot yan sa ibang UAAP school. Ang ganyang talent, hindi puedeng isikreto sa mga coaches. May kukuha at may kukuha diyan.

so laglag pala si Alvin sa UP? ???

mighty_lion
02-06-2007, 12:39 PM
hati tayo, sa inyo si alvin. samin si james. ;D ??? ;D

AnthonyServinio
02-06-2007, 01:49 PM
Thanks Anthony. But I think I heard the other Cubs call him James.*

So Mateen, nag try-out na pala sa UP si Alvin hehe.* Mukhang marami kayong mapipitas ngayong taon na ito.


James din nga ang narinig kong pangalan... di kaya kambal si Alvin at si James?* ;D

Nag try-out minsan, pero hindi ko na nakita ulit... hindi ako magugulat kung bigla na lang sumulpot yan sa ibang UAAP school. Ang ganyang talent, hindi puedeng isikreto sa mga coaches. May kukuha at may kukuha diyan.

There's another point guard on the Season 83 Red Cubs in the person of James Philip Panaligan.

oca
02-06-2007, 03:12 PM
Thanks Anthony. But I think I heard the other Cubs call him James.*

So Mateen, nag try-out na pala sa UP si Alvin hehe.* Mukhang marami kayong mapipitas ngayong taon na ito.


James din nga ang narinig kong pangalan... di kaya kambal si Alvin at si James?* ;D

Nag try-out minsan, pero hindi ko na nakita ulit... hindi ako magugulat kung bigla na lang sumulpot yan sa ibang UAAP school. Ang ganyang talent, hindi puedeng isikreto sa mga coaches. May kukuha at may kukuha diyan.

* * *There's another point guard on the Season 83 Red Cubs in the person of James Philip Panaligan.


Panaligan is not yet graduating and not a PG. For now, masyadong mababa ang height to even become a legit college prospect in the future. Unless he grows by 5 to 6 inches by next school year. Pero ang tindi niyan bumitaw from 3-pt arc. Sayang lang talaga at kulang sa height.

freak
02-07-2007, 12:29 AM
^ oca, is this panaligan guy, the dark skinned one with the long hair? nakita ko na ata syang maglaro during one of the FMC games before an ADMU match. para kasing ganun tunog ng last name nya.. kung cya nga yun, maliit nga siya pero i liked how he controlled the game at obvious na malaki ang kumpyansa ni Senor Ato sa kanya.


o.. ibang gwardya ito? dami kasi magagaling na gwardya ang cubs.. ;D

AnthonyServinio
02-07-2007, 12:42 AM
Thanks Anthony. But I think I heard the other Cubs call him James.*

So Mateen, nag try-out na pala sa UP si Alvin hehe.* Mukhang marami kayong mapipitas ngayong taon na ito.


James din nga ang narinig kong pangalan... di kaya kambal si Alvin at si James?* ;D

Nag try-out minsan, pero hindi ko na nakita ulit... hindi ako magugulat kung bigla na lang sumulpot yan sa ibang UAAP school. Ang ganyang talent, hindi puedeng isikreto sa mga coaches. May kukuha at may kukuha diyan.

* * *There's another point guard on the Season 83 Red Cubs in the person of James Philip Panaligan.


Panaligan is not yet graduating and not a PG. For now, masyadong mababa ang height to even become a legit college prospect in the future. Unless he grows by 5 to 6 inches by next school year. Pero ang tindi niyan bumitaw from 3-pt arc. Sayang lang talaga at kulang sa height.

My mistake, I should have written Season 82.

oca
02-07-2007, 09:21 AM
^ oca, is this panaligan guy, the dark skinned one with the long hair? nakita ko na ata syang maglaro during one of the FMC games before an ADMU match. para kasing ganun tunog ng last name nya.. kung cya nga yun, maliit nga siya pero i liked how he controlled the game at obvious na malaki ang kumpyansa ni Senor Ato sa kanya.


o.. ibang gwardya ito? dami kasi magagaling na gwardya ang cubs..* ;D


Obviously, the game you saw was not a NCAA game. That makes it difficult to pin point a particular Red Cub because Badolato "mix-matches" his players at off season, lalo na yung nasa Teams A and B. ( Example sa MMBL, Salva played at Team A, but there were two NCAA players who were assigned to Team B. Both Teams A and B ended up as champions in their respective MMBL divisions.)

But Panaligan does not play PG. Isang position lang ang laro niyan -- shooting guard. Since, you refered to someone who "controlled the game" w/c makes the player a PG, malamang hindi si Panaligan yun.

Medyo off topic na ito, pero sa mga taga-UAAP, abangan niyo ang batch ng Red Cubs graduating after Seasons 83 and 84. Daming matatangkad at very promising. If we go by natural progression they should all be hot prospects by then. Di na ako magbabanggit ng pangalan, at baka i-ban ako sa Den. ;D ;D ;D

Pero kung tutuusin, wala ng bago sa balitang maraming promising na Red Cubs, except that sa ngayon marami ang matatangkad na nasa 2nd and 3rd year high.

Mateen Cleaves
02-07-2007, 09:47 AM
^Marami nga sa San Beda (apat ba naman na team ang sinasali sa MMBL?!!). Pero hindi lang dyan. Sa iba-ibang HS, may kanya-kanyang incoming 3rd or 4th year Star Margarine babies ang inaabangan (at binabakuran?) na. Parang sabay-sabay ata nagsi-inuman ng Cherifer ang mga batang 'yan e. :)

mighty_lion
02-07-2007, 02:41 PM
^ oca, is this panaligan guy, the dark skinned one with the long hair? nakita ko na ata syang maglaro during one of the FMC games before an ADMU match. para kasing ganun tunog ng last name nya.. kung cya nga yun, maliit nga siya pero i liked how he controlled the game at obvious na malaki ang kumpyansa ni Senor Ato sa kanya.


o.. ibang gwardya ito? dami kasi magagaling na gwardya ang cubs..* ;D


Obviously, the game you saw was not a NCAA game. That makes it difficult to pin point a particular Red Cub because Badolato "mix-matches" his players at off season, lalo na yung nasa Teams A and B. ( Example sa MMBL, Salva played at Team A, but there were two NCAA players who were assigned to Team B. Both Teams A and B ended up as champions in their respective MMBL divisions.)

But Panaligan does not play PG. Isang position lang ang laro niyan -- shooting guard. Since, you refered to someone who "controlled the game" w/c makes the player a PG, malamang hindi si Panaligan yun.

Medyo off topic na ito, pero sa mga taga-UAAP, abangan niyo ang batch ng Red Cubs graduating after Seasons 83 and 84. Daming matatangkad at very promising. If we go by natural progression they should all be hot prospects by then. Di na ako magbabanggit ng pangalan, at baka i-ban ako sa Den. ;D ;D ;D

Pero kung tutuusin, wala ng bago sa balitang maraming promising na Red Cubs, except that sa ngayon marami ang matatangkad na nasa 2nd and 3rd year high.


Just in time, by then, graduating na si Ekwe and Aljamal ;D

israeli
02-07-2007, 05:05 PM
^Marami nga sa San Beda (apat ba naman na team ang sinasali sa MMBL?!!). Pero hindi lang dyan. Sa iba-ibang HS, may kanya-kanyang incoming 3rd or 4th year Star Margarine babies ang inaabangan (at binabakuran?) na. Parang sabay-sabay ata nagsi-inuman ng Cherifer ang mga batang 'yan e. :)

curious lang ako, Sir Mateen. gaano ba katangkad ang mga batang yan? meron ba sa kanila na mala-Ekwe ang laki kaya pinag-aagawan na ngayon pa lang? :o

hmmmm... i hope UP would be able to scout some of them. the Maroons will lose Vicmel Epres and VJ Serios at the end of Season 70.

israeli
02-18-2007, 11:00 AM
sinabi nga pala ni admu14 sa UST thread na sinabi daw sa kanya ni Anthony Espiritu na hindi kukunin ng UST sina Elvin Pascual at Erwin Duran. if that will be the case, are we going to see Pascual joining the Dolphins and Duran entering the Red Warriors in Season 70?

oca
03-07-2007, 02:39 PM
Just read at b.com, Dave Marcelo and Garvo Lanete will start practicing with the Red Lions tomorrow.

Mas mahihirapan na ang sino mang interesado na siluin ang sino man sa dalawa palayo sa Mendiola.

At tiyak isang mainit na pagtanggap ang sasalubong sa dalawa.

Pwede na bang maglaro sa Linggo kontra Ateneo, sa FMC3, si Dave? ;D

Semenelin
03-20-2007, 11:36 AM
Hindi pa po ba mag-graduate si Buenafe(staglets) this year?

Also, any news on Olalia and the big guy in the baby falcons roster?

christian
03-20-2007, 10:46 PM
among the graduating high schoolers, who wll match up with Justin Chua of CKS? or will he match up to the NCAA/UAAP counterpart? what do you think guys? sobra hype sa batang ito...

jiggerman04
03-20-2007, 11:52 PM
among the graduating high schoolers, who wll match up with Justin Chua of CKS? or will he match up to the NCAA/UAAP counterpart? what do you think guys? sobra hype sa batang ito...


feeling ko hangang tiong lien (tama ba spelling??) lang ang pagiging dominant ni justin chua,, kasi napanood ko yung isang game nila sa finals ang lambot nila gumalaw tsaka yung kamatch up nya..iba parin talaga ang level of play ng ncaa,,juniors pa lang kung maglaro kala mo mga mama na..sa bagay bata pa naman to,,marami pang time to improve..

kaya lang siguro sobrang naging hype si justin chua dahil sa height nya bata pa kasi tapos ganyan na yung height,,at baka tumangkad pa!

oca
03-21-2007, 09:59 AM
among the graduating high schoolers, who wll match up with Justin Chua of CKS? or will he match up to the NCAA/UAAP counterpart? what do you think guys? sobra hype sa batang ito...


The hype is brought about by the many post at different fora by excitable Blue Eagle fans/ supporters. Inako na nga ng mga "Excitables".

Some level headed Ateneans tried to restrain the giddy ones, stating simply that a lot can still happen before season 71. Pero ayaw paawat ng mga "Excitables".

Pero, totoong may potential ng bata. But, IMO, it would be a shame to see this kid used at the 5 or 4 spots pagdating sa college.

LION
03-23-2007, 09:42 AM
The PCU Baby Dolphins team is now being investigated by the NCAA Mancom due to alleged irregularities, including "identity switching".

This should serve as a warning to the UAAP and NCAA teams who are thinking of recruiting Baby Dolphins. Kawawa dito yung mga players ng PCU na inosente pero madadamay.

pachador
03-23-2007, 01:19 PM
excerpt from Philstar , march 22, 2007

Chatsworth High School all-star guard Michael Palarca of Los Angeles, California.

Palarca’s father Fernando is Filipino and his mother is Caucasian.

At Chatsworth, the 5-8 guard is known as a cage phenom. He’s averaging 18.3 points, 7.0 assists and 4.9 steals a game as a senior this season. His assist-to-turnover ratio is 1.95. He has posted single-game highs of 29 points and 11 assists. And he is hitting 81 percent from the line. Palarca has scored more than 1,000 points in his prep career.

Which college Palarca will enroll in next school year is a big question mark. California State at Northridge (where Japanese-American Michael Dorsey Takahashi played), Pacific and California State at Bakersfield are options. Xavier, Duquesne and San Diego State are other possibilities.

Palarca’s father Fernando said his son is open to play for a UAAP or NCAA school.

MonL
03-23-2007, 01:49 PM
response moved to the tsismis thread, where oca responded to this very same post.* :P

(request mods to just delete this post)

razor
03-26-2007, 08:44 AM
The PCU Baby Dolphins team is now being investigated by the NCAA Mancom* *due to alleged irregularities, including "identity switching".

This should serve as a warning to the UAAP and NCAA teams who are thinking of recruiting Baby Dolphins.* Kawawa dito yung mga players ng PCU na inosente pero madadamay.*



http://www.philstar.com/philstar/NEWS200703261602.htm

NC probers back with evidence
By Joey Villar
The Philippine Star 03/26/2007



Five players have been mentioned for their involvement but Atayde said they only need one to prove that the "identity switching" happened.

Atayde, meanwhile, cleared 2006 rookie MVP Elvin Pascual and Ralph Lansang of any involvement in the case.

LION
03-26-2007, 09:55 AM
Five players have been mentioned for their involvement but Atayde said they only need one to prove that the "identity switching" happened.

Atayde, meanwhile, cleared 2006 rookie MVP Elvin Pascual and Ralph Lansang of any involvement in the case.





You have 5 potential violators and to capture just one of them is enough? What the....? I say get all of them.

What bothers me is the statement of Atayde saying that there is nothing in the NCAA rules providing for the suspension of any team who will be caught fielding ineligibile players. There is a prohibition without a corresponding penalty? Oh well..... make hay while the sun shines...

pachador
03-27-2007, 02:21 AM
Here's a semi-complete answer to this topic:

March 27, 2007

* 80 players to attend Nike
Elite Basketball Camp in Laguna


AFTER conducting the Nike Elite Basketball Camp in seven key cities around Luzon, Visayas and Mindanao, 80 players were selected to take part in a six-day, all-expense paid camp slated March 30 to April 4 at the Brent International School in Mamplasan, Laguna.

As an added bonus, the coaches of the chosen players will be given free coaching clinic by coaches Eric Altamirano and Alex Compton on April 2 to 3.

“Our goal is to be able to reach other areas in the provinces and that’s the reason why we made the camp nationwide. We are in search of the best high school players from all over the country,” Compton, also the project director of the Elite Camp, said in a press conference Monday at the Wasabi Restaurant in Makati. Also present was San Beda juniors coach Ato Badolato.

The 80 players came from Southern Luzon ( 5 ), Baguio ( 6 ), Pampanga ( 8 ), Davao ( 5 ), Cebu ( 8 ), Bacolod ( 7 ) and Manila ( 41 ).

Out of the 80 campers, five will be selected to attend the All-Asia Camp in Beijing. China.

Last year, Joshua David Webb of De La Salle-Zobel, Mike Gamboa of Ateneo and Dave Marcelo of San Beda College went to the All-Asia Camp where Gamboa was named to the All-Star team.

Joescoundrel
03-30-2007, 02:59 PM
among the graduating high schoolers, who wll match up with Justin Chua of CKS? or will he match up to the NCAA/UAAP counterpart? what do you think guys? sobra hype sa batang ito...


If the Justin Chua article in this site is anything to go on I'd say the boy himself is pretty level-headed. He seems to want to get into a good school FIRST and into a good basketball program second. The fact that his girlfriend is a Lady Eagle guarantees nothing as to his choice of college. Although it would be not be too hard to figure that the aforementioned "three schools" he has in mind are most likely Ateneo, Lasalle and UP. UP Coach Joe Lipa was a fixture in the Season 30 tournament of Tiong Lian and was constantly hovering over Chang Kai Shek's bench, so maybe Da Nose and the Fighting Maroons have the inside track, lord only knows how badly they need the talent infusion, and they seem to have good luck getting Tiong Lian talent (Woody Co last season). On the other hand, Lasalle (to their eternal credit) does have the top Business program in the country, and he seems set on getting a Management degree in college, although I wonder if his folks would want to go to a school also known for...

Wherever he may eventually wind up Big Boy Justin Chua is going to be quite the handful. I've seen him in action over the last two Tiong Lian tournaments and the hype happened for one simple reason: he's got game. I watched the likes of Ryan Pamintuan, Enrico Villanueva, even Ken Bono in action as high school ballers and this kid Chua is better than any of them at the same stage of their playing careers. He is bigger, stronger, quicker than any of the aforementioned. Perhaps his only basketball sin is that he is playing in a relatively unknown league and may thus not really be facing top-flight competition. On the other that argument may not necessarily wash given the recent college success of the likes of Joseph Yeo, TY T-ang, Chris Tiu and lately Woody Co.

Pamintuan and Villanueva relied solely on size and strength in high school and barely showed any range or handles, ditto Bono although he had a steady set-shot from about 12 feet back then. Chua can consistently hit from up to 18 feet, and has been seriously working on ranging out to the three-point line, skills he has shown in the last two editions of Tiong Lian. And at his size of 6'5" and 215 pounds as a high school Junior he is actually bigger than those last three guys. Bono only filled out in his senior year in high school to about 6'5" and 225 pounds. Pamintuan and Villanueva were generously listed at 6'4" and 200 pounds going into their senior years as Blue Eaglets.

So how does Justin Chua match up? If it would be against any other incoming freshman either in the UAAP or NCAA he'd match up very well indeed. Perhaps the only other incoming freshman who could give him problems would be San Beda's David Marcelo because they can match up in size and strength. He could easily outmuscle the likes of Erwin Duran, Kevin Olalia and Jonas Paguia. He'll have problems against supersized centers and veterans though, which means Raba Al-Hussaini and Jervy Cruz will likely eat him alive, as would of course Sam Ekwe and Jason Sena. The best thing going for him is that he's got a lot of upside being just 15 years old. If he grows even just another inch without putting on any more pounds and he keeps getting good coaching to expand and improve his game he could indeed become the next great center in college ball and beyond.

oca
03-30-2007, 04:28 PM
Justin Chua.

If a kid is that young, with a good handle and range, and with still a year in high school, why speculate the match up with other big kids? Or compare him with other kids playing or had played the "big man's position".

Pero hindi lang "if", talagang maganda ang bitaw ng bata sa labas at may dribble. If I were his handler, I'll teach him to play the 3 spot in preparation for college.

Sino ang pwedeng tumapat sa kanya sa posisyon na yan?

In the long term, with his gift of size and mobility, knowing how to play the "smaller position" gives him the most enviable advantage.

bchoter
03-30-2007, 05:14 PM
There were times when Justin Chua plays a lot like a young Kerby Raymundo

yungha
03-30-2007, 08:43 PM
in justin chua, i see japeth all over again. meaning, a kid who'll play 1 or 2 years of pinoy college ball then bolt for the states for better training and better opportunities. masasaktan lang uli tayo, or if not us, whatever UAAP or NCAA school he decides to initially play for.

it's better to send him to the states now. better for him, better for the country.

not too many pinoy kids have the physique and raw talent to make it to a us ncaa division school 1. kids like justin should be found schools in the states where they can play college ball and hone their skills at a level they can never hope for in the philippines. habang maaga, tulungan na natin maghanap ng school; the different UAAP and NCAA schools can pool their connections to get him into a good jesuit, dominican, christian brother, etc school with a good basketball program.

Sam Miguel
04-04-2007, 06:31 PM
Justin Chua is still about three years away from being totally dominating as a player. I believe one reason sending him to the US now is not quite in the cards for him is that he may stop growing at his present size, in which case he does not have even a tithe of the perimeter skills of players his size in the US. He'd be hard pressed to go up against similarly sized 6'5", 6'6" or 6'7" guards and swings in, say, the McDonald's All Stars.

In local terms I'd say he'll probably be as good or a level up better than Don Allado, a big, strong, wide-shouldered and beefy big man who plays 4 and 5. Unless he gets a totally understanding coach who will develop him as a 3 right from the get-go he is "doomed" to be a 4/5 until the day he dies. Coaches will most likely want to utilize his heft and strength inside to get higher-percentage shots and go after rebounds rather than have him hanging around at the perimeter launching jumpshots and trying to slash. (I recall there was a similar size-skill-position discussion in the Hoops 101 thread).

If he is truly bent on becoming a perimeter player he should try to model himself after two PBA Fil-Ams: Rudy Hatfield and Danny Seigle. Those two have the size of local 4/5 types but have the speed and skill to play the perimeter and dash out in transition, things that Chue apparently wants to do as well.

Wang-Bu
06-12-2007, 07:08 PM
Tignan nga natin kung sino sa mga nabanggit na bata dito ang kakamada ng maganda nagyong papalapit na ang college season.

Wang-Bu
06-13-2007, 09:11 AM
Tancha ko lang maiiyak ang mga Atenista kay Mike Gamboa kapag nakalaban nilang UP. Alam ni Mike ang sistema ng Ateneo dahil iisa ng sistema nila mula elementary hanggang college pagdating sa basketball. Alam niyang lusutan ang press pati and extended foul line na depensa ng Ateneo. Alam din niya kung papano banatyan ang flex at halfcourt motion ng Ateneo.

'Yun nga lang, dahil nasa Ateneo ang dati niyang coach malamang mabantayan din siya.

mighty_lion
06-13-2007, 09:30 AM
Mapasangayon ang napapansin kung mga gumawa ng pangalan sa larangan ng pagbubuslo sa kolehiyo ay sina Lanete ng San Beda at Banal ng Mapua. Si Paul Lee din ng UE ay nagpapaklita ng kanyang kakayahan para maisama sa panimulang lima ng UE. Bagamat UP at FEU ang maraming mga baguhang manlalaro, hindi ko pa napapanoud ang laro ng mga ito ukol sa sistema kanikanilang mga koponan. Matunog na ang mga bagong manlalaro ni Montinola. Bagamat medyo kabataan pa ang mga ito, maugong na mayroon na ding ibubuga at pwedeng mang surpresa.

Joescoundrel
06-14-2007, 09:34 AM
How the hell the gameface.ph people ever ignore PAUL LEE is beyond me. Like what was mentioned in another thread herein this kid will be the new Bon Custodio, and he actually plays defense. UE will have a strong contender for the ROY award in Season 70, even if Soc Rivera hadn't been undone by Anton Montinola's boardroom machinations.

oca
06-14-2007, 09:45 AM
Paul Lee wasn't ignored. It so happen HINDI siya hs senior prospect.

Isang taon na yan sa Team B ng UE. Kasabayan niya ang teammate niyang si Raffy Reyes at Eric Salamat ng Ateneo sa San Sebastian Staglets. Both Reyes and Salamat will be playing their SECOND UAAP season.

LION
06-14-2007, 10:10 AM
From what my sources told me last year, Paul Lee, James Martinez and Elmer Reyes' son, Raffy, were brought by Elmer to UE as one package.

oca
06-14-2007, 10:21 AM
From what my sources told me last year, Paul Lee, James Martinez and Elmer Reyes' son, Raffy, were brought by Elmer to UE as one package.




Teka, ahead si Martinez sa dalawang iyan ng isang taon. Hindi kapanipaniwalang mapa-package si Martinez kasama ang dalawa. Moreso, when we consider the post of Matinez's hs friend at the UE sub-forum that the kid really wanted to be a Red Lion.

LION
06-14-2007, 10:41 AM
I stand corrected in that case. Will check with my source again.

But from what he told me, it appears that Elmer Reyes was instrumental in bringing James to UE. Same with Paul Lee and Raffy Reyes.

gfy
06-14-2007, 12:13 PM
How the hell the gameface.ph people ever ignore PAUL LEE is beyond me. Like what was mentioned in another thread herein this kid will be the new Bon Custodio, and he actually plays defense. UE will have a strong contender for the ROY award in Season 70, even if Soc Rivera hadn't been undone by Anton Montinola's boardroom machinations.



Paul Lee didn't see much action until lately because of several minor injuries starting with the Filoil last year.

lekiboy
06-14-2007, 05:35 PM
How the hell the gameface.ph people ever ignore PAUL LEE is beyond me. Like what was mentioned in another thread herein this kid will be the new Bon Custodio, and he actually plays defense. UE will have a strong contender for the ROY award in Season 70, even if Soc Rivera hadn't been undone by Anton Montinola's boardroom machinations.



Paul Lee didn't see much action until lately because of several minor injuries starting with the Filoil last year.


This kid will surely contribute a lot to UE this season. He has the moves and the shot. Exposure na lang....

aguila
06-14-2007, 06:31 PM
Paul Lee is such a find. Marami nga lang magagaling sa UAAP. In his team alone, he should by time until Marcy gets tired.
He could've been an instant mhytical 5 material had he played in the ncaa only.

irateluvmachine
07-25-2007, 01:20 PM
now that the UAAP and NCAA seasons have started, whatever happened to these HS stars who still have yet to make a UAAP/NCAA lineup?

1. julius porlaje (UE, 2004 UAAP juniors MVP)
2. john lopez (JRU, 2005 NCAA juniors mythical 5)
3. darrell green (CSJL, 2005 NCAA juniors mythical 5)
4. lucas tagarda (CSJL, 2005)
5. mark panahon (UST, 2004 UAAP juniors mythical 5)

jiggerman04
07-27-2007, 09:05 PM
i guess isama mo na din dyan si JONAS PAGUIA ng feu

irateluvmachine
07-29-2007, 11:40 PM
^i think paguia's in FEU's team B this year. erwin duran, another touted HS player from last year, is with UE's team B, likewise.

regarding those five names i mentioned in my previous post...i wonder what's up with them right now, particularly porlaje...last i heard of him was being among UP's rookie aspirants in the 2005 (or 2006?) season but somehow didn't end up with the team...

jollibeeaddict
07-30-2007, 01:37 AM
may balita ba sa napapabalitang "panliligaw" daw ng UP kay Tiong Lian superstar Justin Chua? ;) :D

abcdef
07-30-2007, 08:01 PM
I heard La Salle is looking San BEda's NIco Salva. . . . . ??? ::)

lekiboy
07-30-2007, 08:33 PM
I heard La Salle is looking San BEda's NIco Salva. . . . .* ??? ::)


I heard Nico is also being persuaded by UP ( former team of his father).... matanong nga sa bubuwit ko next time kung saan nagkakape ang mag-amang ito.

jollibeeaddict
07-30-2007, 08:41 PM
^ pare, paki-describe nga sa akin si Nico Salva? how tall is the kid? kumusta ang basketball skills niya? if ever totoo nga ito, i can now assume that UP is allegedly courting Justin Chua and Nico Salva. ;D

lalong lumalaki ang pressure sa UP na humanap ng mga malalaki. yung La Salle daw, nakuha si former Ateneo Blue Eaglet and 6'8" tall Gian Chiu tapos yung FEU, nanliligaw daw dun sa isang 6'8" din na kaklase daw ni Nonoy Baclao sa Bacolod. kawawa naman ang UP kapag nagkaganun kasi undersized na naman relative to other UAAP teams (6'6" lang ang pinakamatangkad). :o

lekiboy
07-30-2007, 08:47 PM
^ pare, paki-describe nga sa akin si Nico Salva? how tall is the kid? kumusta ang basketball skills niya? if ever totoo nga ito, i can now assume that UP is allegedly courting Justin Chua and Nico Salva. ;D


I am not sure with the height - I think he is around 6-3. He plays 3 and 4 ( at least in the games i saw). He has good post up moves, a good handle on the ball and has good court vision too in dishing out assists/ drop passes. He just needs to grow more for the college game. Otherwise, he may end up playing 2.

Oca may provide more info. Mas adik pa sa iyo si oca sa junior basketball and to most of us Bedans when it comes to the Red Cubs.

razor
07-30-2007, 08:47 PM
^ Salva is not the solution to UP's problem in the middle. He'll be more of a SF in college.

Since marami ng capable SF sa Diliman, sa Mendiola na lang siya. ;)

razor
07-30-2007, 08:50 PM
now that the UAAP and NCAA seasons have started, whatever happened to these HS stars who still have yet to make a UAAP/NCAA lineup?

1. julius porlaje (UE, 2004 UAAP juniors MVP)
2. john lopez (JRU, 2005 NCAA juniors mythical 5)
3. darrell green (CSJL, 2005 NCAA juniors mythical 5)
4. lucas tagarda (CSJL, 2005)
5. mark panahon (UST, 2004 UAAP juniors mythical 5)


Tagarda is on a campus tour. ;)

Nasa UE na daw after trying out at UST and a year at Letran.

razor
07-30-2007, 08:52 PM
double post

jollibeeaddict
07-30-2007, 08:53 PM
thanks for the description, lekiboy. tama si razor. masyadong maliit si Nico Salva to solve UP's size problems. yung si Justin Chua, pasok na siguro for the power forward-center position kasi 6'6" daw ang height nung bata pero hindi ko lang alam if UP can really lure the kid given the fact that other schools such as Ateneo, La Salle and San Beda have the upper hand when it comes to recruitment (although UP is this year's winner in the recruitment wars).

UP already stockpiled on shooting guards and small forwards kaya tama nga na ang next move ng UP will be to get two big men na pwedeng power forward at sentro. Justin Chua is a step in the right direction but still, we need one more big man na mga kasingtangkad at kasinggaling ni Sam Ekwe. :o


edit: just in case tanggalin ni Lipa si De Asis sa line-up, pwede kayang ipalit sa kanya si Salva? ;D

lekiboy
07-30-2007, 08:55 PM
^ Salva is not the solution to UP's problem in the middle. He'll be more of SF in college.



Tama si razor - if you are looking for the man in the middle - hindi si Nico yun... I think you need more of a Justin Chua. Ayos ang kakanin pag nakuha niyo katulad o mismong si JChua.

jollibeeaddict
07-30-2007, 08:59 PM
^ kaya nga dapat galingan ng UP ang panliligaw kay Justin Chua. maraming kalaban na mapepera at yun ang mahirap tapatan. pangalan lang ni Lipa ang puhunan ng UP eh. :o

kaya lang, given the trend of possible power forward and center recruits in the UAAP next year, hindi kaya medyo undersized na si Justin Chua given the fact that other UAAP teams are trying to field 6'8" tall centers? meron pa bang ibang Justin Chua-like players (sana Sam Ekwe-like talaga) na pwedeng maging prospect ng Maroons?

lekiboy
07-30-2007, 08:59 PM
thanks for the description, lekiboy. tama si razor. masyadong maliit si Nico Salva to solve UP's size problems. yung si Justin Chua, pasok na siguro for the power forward-center position kasi 6'6" daw ang height nung bata pero hindi ko lang alam if UP can really lure the kid given the fact that other schools such as Ateneo, La Salle and San Beda have the upper hand when it comes to recruitment (although UP is this year's winner in the recruitment wars).

UP already stockpiled on shooting guards and small forwards kaya tama nga na ang next move ng UP will be to get two big men na pwedeng power forward at sentro. Justin Chua is a step in the right direction but still, we need one more big man na mga kasingtangkad at kasinggaling ni Sam Ekwe. :o


edit: just in case tanggalin ni Lipa si De Asis sa line-up, pwede kayang ipalit sa kanya si Salva? ;D


Ayun e kung aaalis si Nico sa Mendiola. *;D
Ang layo pa nun....Ikaw nga addict ang matanong ko- if you were Nico, will you transfer if given a slot in Team Animo? Next year season 84 gunning for what???? Sige nga.... :)

jollibeeaddict
07-30-2007, 09:02 PM
Ayun e kung aaalis si Nico sa Mendiola. *;D
Ang layo pa nun....Ikaw nga addict ang matanong ko- if you were Nico, will you transfer if given a slot in Team Animo? Next year season 84 gunning for what???? Sige nga.... :)


mahirap tumanggi sa offer ng San Beda. instant playing time for a champion team? mahirap sumagot ng hindi. :o

oh well, tama talaga kayo. Salva isn't a solution to UP's woes. we desperately are in need of two big men. sana nga makuha namin si Justin Chua pero kailangan pa namin ng isa pang malaki. :(

dapat talaga itinuro niyo na lang sa Diliman si Elvin Pascual kung alam niyo lang na babarahin siya ng PCU para hindi makapaglaro this year. :D

Out_Of_The_Blue
07-30-2007, 09:04 PM
^ yung La Salle daw, nakuha si former Ateneo Blue Eaglet and 6'8" tall Gian Chiu tapos yung FEU, nanliligaw daw dun sa isang 6'8" din na kaklase daw ni Nonoy Baclao sa Bacolod. kawawa naman ang UP kapag nagkaganun kasi undersized na naman relative to other UAAP teams (6'6" lang ang pinakamatangkad). :o



Mcdonald, tsismis thread dapat ang mga ito. Gian Chiu has not committed to La Salle.

Hwag mo dalhin ang mga tsismis ng PEx dito.

jollibeeaddict
07-30-2007, 09:07 PM
Mcdonald, tsismis thread dapat ang mga ito. Gian Chiu has not committed to La Salle.

Hwag mo dalhin ang mga tsismis ng PEx dito.


pare, hindi sa PEx ko napulot yun kundi dito din sa gameface:



Perhaps everyone is now aware that former Blue Eaglet GIAN CHIU, 18 years old and 6'8", is entering DLSU and will play for the Green Archers next season. Welcome to DLSU, Gian!


ayan. ano ba talagang balak nung bata? tatalon ba talaga siya sa Berde? ???

Out_Of_The_Blue
07-30-2007, 09:35 PM
Tumpak ka nga! Sorry Mcdo.

Pero sinagot na rin Gil_Andrews ang post ni GreenArrows.

oca
07-31-2007, 09:34 AM
UP's epicenter.

Kung titignan niyo ang Class08 at both the NCAA and UAAP, walang centrong tutugon sa problema na UP.

Class07 was its best chance to get an "instant usable" centro in Marcelo and Pascual- who are both at Mendiola now. Yung mga tulad ni Ferdinand at Soc are more of projects to play the 5, kailangan turuan at pahinugin pa. In hindsight, kung centro na pang-UP centennial ang hanap, sa Class07 dapat binuhos yung effort to recruit.

Pero kung isang current HS senior ang hanap, may isang player na di pansin ng madla ang pwedeng silipin ng UP. ( I am assuming he is now a HS senior.)

Yung FRAN ng LSGH.

No he is not playing for LSGH at the NCAA is because may alitan sila duon. Pero ibang usapan na yan.

Dahil nga wala sa NC' lineup ang bata, mga isang taon ko na* rin siya di nakita naglaro. He has the body and a decent height to play the 5 spot.* I am assuming that by "natural progression" he had grow an inch or two. If yes, pwedeng-pwede yan maging centro sa college ball.

Wes Unseld ang pumapasok sa isip ko, when I imagine the kid blossoming as a college baller. Of course not playing in the big leagues now is detrimental to his development as a player. But if UP can convince and get the family's commitment early enough, pwedeng simulan at dahan-dahanin ang traning nya.

The kid was instrumental in helping LSGH win the national title in the Milo-Best Passerelle in 2005. He was literally immovable at the shaded area. The Greenies dominated the opposition. Not even the Red Cubs or the Blue Eaglets will deny that LSGH team with Fran was really dominant.

Don't misinerpret this post as hyping the kid. As I said, matagal ko na rin siya di nakita and my opinion is on the premise that by natural progression tumangkad at lumaki pa siya since then.

Gaya ng sinabi ko, silipin niyo.

oca
07-31-2007, 09:47 AM
UPs epicenter 2.

All this worries about UP lacking a player at 5 and where to find one. I am inclined to believe may na-ispatan na si Lipa. He has a network and he would not be sitting idly and wait for good fortune to come by Diliman.

Dahil itong player na ito wala siya sa current pool ng Maroons, we can assume he is a hs senior. Or Lipa has targeted season72 as the year of reckoning and will have his residency in S71.

Just look at the Marviv Cruz case. Nagtataka ang marami kung bakit wala man lang effort to prod the kid to stay for another year. Yun pala sealed and delivered na si Gamboa.

Malay niyo meron nang sealed and delivered at nakatago lang.

Wang-Bu
07-31-2007, 10:04 AM
Fran of LSGH ay medyo malayo-layo pa sa katotohanan. Minsan nung nakakwentohan namin ng ilang UE Scouts sa Tiong Lian socials si Justin Chua ang nabanggit niyang matinding nakalaban niyang mga big man sa high school level sina Dave Marcelo ng San Beda at Ferdinand ng Lasalle. Nung tinanong namin about Fran hindi naman sa minaliit niya pero sa tono ng pananalita niya tila yata hindi siya ganun kabilib kay Fran. Sa mga napanood ko na ding laro ni Fran may kabagalan nga siya, although matino naman ang footwork, medyo isang kamay at isang paa nga lang ang gumagana pero expected na 'yon sa edad niya at pwedeng-pwede pa naman siyang maturuan basta matino ang maging college coach niya.

jollibeeaddict
07-31-2007, 10:17 AM
lalo lang akong nagiging curious dito sa Fran na ito. any idea on how tall this kid? concerned din ako sa hindi pagsali nung bata sa competitive sports (NCAA) sa ngayon kasi baka magkaroon ito ng epekto just in case pumasok siya sa line-up ng UP o any college team na papasukan niya.

kaya bang i-train ni Lipa itong si Fran just in case pumasok siya sa UP the way he trained Enrico Villanueva and Benjie Paras? as far as i know, parang mas expert pa si Lipa sa pag-develop ng mga off-guards at shooting guards kaysa sa mga sentro. ???

yung si Justin Chua talaga ang hindi nawawala sa sirkulasyon. malamang bukod sa UP ay may iba nang nanliligaw sa bata.

as for FEU, may nasagap akong tsismis na may prospect daw ito na 6'8" na bata na doon daw nag-aaral sa school ni Nonoy Baclao sa Bacolod(?). nandyan pa yung taga-Cameroon na baka ipasok na ni Glenn Capacio next year.

bchoter
07-31-2007, 05:55 PM
mcdo mawalang galang na po, I'd suggest you make the rounds of hard core leagues during the offseason para mas makatotohanan ang posts mo. Minsan kasi umo-oo ka lang sa mga sinabi ng iba. Mas masaya sana ang gameface kung makapagbigay ka ng first hand account at hindi yung nasagap lang. Pang PEX lang yung style na yun eh.

jollibeeaddict
07-31-2007, 07:54 PM
^ will do, bchoter. aaminin ko na yung iba, nasagap ko na lang sa iba pero yung iba, first hand accounts. nasa manner of posting ko lang siguro but i will take your advice. thanks. :)

mighty_lion
07-31-2007, 08:09 PM
^ Salva is not the solution to UP's problem in the middle. He'll be more of SF in college.

Tama si razor - if you are looking for the man in the middle - hindi si Nico yun... I think you need more of a Justin Chua. Ayos ang kakanin pag nakuha niyo katulad o mismong si JChua.


Third motion na to. Hindi masyadong magiging malaking tulong si Salva sa UP incase totoo man na nililigawan nga ito UP. Meron nang player ang UP na identical ang klase ang laro at katawan kay Salva in the name of Woody Co. Pweding sabihin inside oriented player sa opensa si Salva kesa kay Woody Co, but transition to college will definetly make him more of a wing player later on. Bottom end, almost woody ko. Undersized PF sa college.

Sayang talaga yong opportunity nung kay Pascual last year. Makailang beses ko ding pinepresenta to sa thread ng Maroons last year. IMO kung tutuusin maraming player at hindi na ganun kahirap maghanap ng 6'4 to 6'6 ang tangkad na pwedeng sentro ngayong araw. Ang masama lang dito, kokonti lang ang nasa height na ganito ang pag-kagraduate sa high school at papasok ng college na marunong nang magfortify ng ilalalim kahit sa depensa man lang. Usually it takes them two-three years bago magpeak sa college.

Aanhin mo ang centro na 6'6 to 6'8 kung malambot, mabagal at mahina sa depensa. Sa College ball kung tutuusin kahit 6'4 to 6'5 lang basta marunong mag-fortify ng ilalim pwede na. I have someone in mind na pwedeng solusyon sa UP pampatigas ng gitna. Hindi katangkaran sa height na 6'4 to 6'5 pero fit na solusyon for UP at subok na pampatibay ng ilalim. Masipag at magaling tumimba ng bola for offensive rebounds at hight sa lahat hindi takot makipagbangaan sa ilalim. Sobrang bagay na sentro for UP especially kung gusto mo ng semi-automatic putback machine. Nagsisimula sa titik B at nagtatapos sa titik S. Naglalaro sa isang championship caliber team sa NCAA Juniors.

jollibeeaddict
07-31-2007, 08:36 PM
Third motion na to. Hindi masyadong magiging malaking tulong si Salva sa UP incase totoo man na nililigawan nga ito UP. Meron nang player ang UP na identical ang klase ang laro at katawan kay Salva in the name of Woody Co. Pweding sabihin inside oriented player sa opensa si Salva kesa kay Woody Co, but transition to college will definetly make him more of a wing player later on. Bottom end, almost woody ko. Undersized PF sa college.

Sayang talaga yong opportunity nung kay Pascual last year. Makailang beses ko ding pinepresenta to sa thread ng Maroons last year. IMO kung tutuusin maraming player at hindi na ganun kahirap maghanap ng 6'4 to 6'6 ang tangkad na pwedeng sentro ngayong araw. Ang masama lang dito, kokonti lang ang nasa height na ganito ang pag-kagraduate sa high school at papasok ng college na marunong nang magfortify ng ilalalim kahit sa depensa man lang. Usually it takes them two-three years bago magpeak sa college.

Aanhin mo ang centro na 6'6 to 6'8 kung malambot, mabagal at mahina sa depensa. Sa College ball kung tutuusin kahit 6'4 to 6'5 lang basta marunong mag-fortify ng ilalim pwede na. I have someone in mind na pwedeng solusyon sa UP pampatigas ng gitna. Hindi katangkaran sa height na 6'4 to 6'5 pero fit na solusyon for UP at subok na pampatibay ng ilalim. Masipag at magaling tumimba ng bola for offensive rebounds at hight sa lahat hindi takot makipagbangaan sa ilalim. Sobrang bagay na sentro for UP especially kung gusto mo ng semi-automatic putback machine. Nagsisimula sa titik B at nagtatapos sa titik S. Naglalaro sa isang championship caliber team sa NCAA Juniors.


kahit ako mismo ay nanghihinayang sa oportunidad na nakuha sana ng UP si Pascual noong mga panahon na naghahanap ito ng paaralan na aampon sa kanya at kukuha ng kanyang serbisyo bilang isang basketball player. UP could not have suffered this much as far as size is concerned if only Lipa considered Pascual for this year's Maroon line-up.

yung tungkol naman sa pagkakaroon ng 6'7" to 6'9" tall at super talented na sentro for any basketball team nowadays, sa tingin ko epekto yan ng pagpapasok niyo kay Sam Ekwe sa line-up niyo. UAAP teams saw the potential of having a super big man like Ekwe in their line-up kaya ayun, karera sila ngayon sa paghahanap ng mala-Sam Ekwe na sentro para sa kanilang team. nauna na dyan ang FEU na kumuha ng isang malaking Cameroonian na ipapasok nila for next year at nanliligaw doon sa isang 6'8" na player galing sa high school ni Nonoy Baclao sa Bacolod. yung La Salle naman, na-tsismis na nililigawan si Gian Chiu na 6'8" din ang tangkad pero ang sabi nung mga kamag-anak ng bata ay hindi pa daw ito nag-commit sa kahit na aling paaralan at mas malamang na tumuloy ito sa pag-aaral sa Amerika. both UAAP and NCAA teams are doing their best to look for a Sam Ekwe-like center for their teams, although sa totoo lang ay nag-iisa lang ang Sam Ekwe at napakaswerte ng San Beda Red Lions kasi sa kanila napunta si Ekwe.


NOTE: post edited. maling tao ang sinabi ko. tao lang ako eh. ;D

mighty_lion
07-31-2007, 08:50 PM
Hehe.. Hindi si Bernas ang tinutukoy ko. Im not familiar with height of Bernas pero ang alam ko slashing guard ang laro nya. Mukha ding hindi sya 4/5 kasi medyo cute at kaliitan sya tingnan sa youtube. Besides 2nd year high school palang ang bata. Ang tinutukoy ko B at S ay hindi taga San Beda at gagraduate na this year. Sobrang swerte ng makakarecruit nito next year.

jollibeeaddict
07-31-2007, 08:58 PM
^ ah. oo nga. tama ka. hindi nga si Bernas. pasensya na. tao lang. ;D

si Arvie Bringas nga pala. teka, hindi ba't binakuran na ito ng Ateneo, all thanks to their Eric Salamat connection? ???

mighty_lion
07-31-2007, 09:17 PM
Malayo pa ang totoong recruitment days. Marami pa pwedeng mangyari.

OT:
Mga kasabihan at linyang mula sa mga pasaling saling karunungan at experience ng mga nakakatandang bedista (madami nyan dito sa gameface, kung mapapaamin nyo) samin dati ukol sa panliligaw.* Nasa inyo na kung seseryosuhin o hindi.

1. Ang manok pagnakatali mas madaling hulihin.* ;D O di ba? San ka pa?* ;D
2. Sa pelikulang pinoy mo lang makikita, nasa simbahan na at "i do" na lang ang kulang, naaagaw pa.* *:-[

jollibeeaddict
07-31-2007, 09:22 PM
^ ang problema kasi sa amin, magaling ngang manligaw kaya lang tricycle lang ang sasakyan. papaano naman kung yung kakompitensya namin sa panliligaw ay naka-Chedeng? sinong mas sasagutin nung nililigawan, yung magaling na manligaw pero naka-tricycle lang o yung magaling din manligaw pero naka-Chedeng naman? :(

at yung tungkol naman sa manok na nakatali, magnanakaw lang ng kalabaw ang pwedeng magnakaw sa manok na nakatali. ;D

sa bagay, may punto ka. malayo pa talaga ang panahon ng recruitment ng mga teams pero ngayon pa lang ay kumikilos na yung ibang teams para makapagbakod na sa kanilang mga prospects. ang mga teams na ito pa ay yung mga may pera na katulad niyo (wala kaming pera eh. papaano ba yan?). :(

teka, kung makuha pala ng UP na "package deal" sina Buenafe at Bringas tapos nakuha pa si Chua (provided that isa sa mga non-performing off-guards or small forwards ang ibabalik ulit sa UP Team B) at nagpakatino na yung mga players ngayon, aba, eh pang-Finals na siguro ang UP.

CM_Punk
07-31-2007, 10:30 PM
There was a report in Oblation Nation that the Bringas brothers showed up at the UP basketball try-outs December of last year, so there is a chance of Arvie Bringas keeping his options open for college.

His older brother Anthony already graduated from San Sebastian high school, but I'm not aware of which school he is currently enrolled in. Arvie Bringas, Ryan Buenafe, and current Maroon Julius Wong were on the same NCR basketball team that was victorious in the 2007 Palarong Pambansa last summer.

mighty_lion
07-31-2007, 11:10 PM
Well most have said, UP is a piece or two short of guys who can man the center spot. I have to say that is real true. I have been watching UP games this season and noticed that UP needs to recruit a real and natural scorer in a mold of a guard/forward slasher. The way I see UP Season 70 line-up, they are basically a jump shooting team. I can only count 1 guy who can slash with the ball on hand in that line up in Mike Gamboa. Getting somebody in a mold of a tall slasher and real scorer that attracks double teams would improve spacing for UP shooters and rebounding center.

AnthonyServinio
08-01-2007, 12:33 AM
There was a report in Oblation Nation that the Bringas brothers showed up at the UP basketball try-outs December of last year, so there is a chance of Arvie Bringas keeping his options open for college.

His older brother Anthony already graduated from San Sebastian high school, but I'm not aware of which school he is currently enrolled in. Arvie Bringas, Ryan Buenafe, and current Maroon Julius Wong were on the same NCR basketball team that was victorious in the 2007 Palarong Pambansa last summer.

* * *Anthony Bringas is still with San Sebastian as a high school senior.* Unfortunately, he is ineligible for this year's NCAA tournament due to age.

CM_Punk
08-01-2007, 07:30 AM
^ I see, thanks for the clarification. That's why Anthony Bringas is not in the San Sebastian juniors roster. The brothers might then be a combo package when they're considering what school to go to after high school.

oca
08-01-2007, 09:27 AM
^ Salva is not the solution to UP's problem in the middle. He'll be more of SF in college.

Tama si razor - if you are looking for the man in the middle - hindi si Nico yun... I think you need more of a Justin Chua. Ayos ang kakanin pag nakuha niyo katulad o mismong si JChua.


Third motion na to. Hindi masyadong magiging malaking tulong si Salva sa UP incase totoo man na nililigawan nga ito UP. Meron nang player ang UP na identical ang klase ang laro at katawan kay Salva in the name of Woody Co. Pweding sabihin inside oriented player sa opensa si Salva kesa kay Woody Co, but transition to college will definetly make him more of a wing player later on. Bottom end, almost woody ko. Undersized PF sa college.

Sayang talaga yong opportunity nung kay Pascual last year. Makailang beses ko ding pinepresenta to sa thread ng Maroons last year. IMO kung tutuusin maraming player at hindi na ganun kahirap maghanap ng 6'4 to 6'6 ang tangkad na pwedeng sentro ngayong araw. Ang masama lang dito, kokonti lang ang nasa height na ganito ang pag-kagraduate sa high school at papasok ng college na marunong nang magfortify ng ilalalim kahit sa depensa man lang. Usually it takes them two-three years bago magpeak sa college.

Aanhin mo ang centro na 6'6 to 6'8 kung malambot, mabagal at mahina sa depensa. Sa College ball kung tutuusin kahit 6'4 to 6'5 lang basta marunong mag-fortify ng ilalim pwede na. I have someone in mind na pwedeng solusyon sa UP pampatigas ng gitna. Hindi katangkaran sa height na 6'4 to 6'5 pero fit na solusyon for UP at subok na pampatibay ng ilalim. Masipag at magaling tumimba ng bola for offensive rebounds at hight sa lahat hindi takot makipagbangaan sa ilalim. Sobrang bagay na sentro for UP especially kung gusto mo ng semi-automatic putback machine. Nagsisimula sa titik B at nagtatapos sa titik S. Naglalaro sa isang championship caliber team sa NCAA Juniors.


Bringas ba yan ng NCAA defending champion Staglets?

Dalawang punto lang-

1. Kakayanin bang magbuhat ng libro sa UP? "Alaga" ang mga iyan sa Baste.

2. I don't think he can contribute siginificantly right off his college freshman year. As it is, with all the attention Buenafe is getting in defense, he cannot assert his height and heft. That was evident in the Staglets two losses. Ano pa pag tulad niyang mama na ang katapat niya? Pero pag gumaling ang footwork nito maraming pahihirapan ang bata. But that would not be next season.

At yun ang pangangailangan ng UP, isang centro ng may malaking maitutulong AGAD. As in next season. UP will just have to find one outside the current rosters of the NCAA and UAAP.

oca
08-01-2007, 09:35 AM
There was a report in Oblation Nation that the Bringas brothers showed up at the UP basketball try-outs December of last year, so there is a chance of Arvie Bringas keeping his options open for college.

His older brother Anthony already graduated from San Sebastian high school, but I'm not aware of which school he is currently enrolled in. Arvie Bringas, Ryan Buenafe, and current Maroon Julius Wong were on the same NCR basketball team that was victorious in the 2007 Palarong Pambansa last summer.

* * *Anthony Bringas is still with San Sebastian as a high school senior.* Unfortunately, he is ineligible for this year's NCAA tournament due to age.


Isip-ispin niyo, nag 19 na pero di pa graduate nang hs si kuya?

Talagang sinagad yung eligibility! Ilang beses kaya yan bumalik sa isang level sa hs?

Ito at yung nakakabatang kapatid ay gifted with the height and heft. Very coachable. Pero kailangan magbuhos ng maraming oras para mahasa. Simply, kulang pa sa skills.

irateluvmachine
08-01-2007, 12:34 PM
There was a report in Oblation Nation that the Bringas brothers showed up at the UP basketball try-outs December of last year, so there is a chance of Arvie Bringas keeping his options open for college.

His older brother Anthony already graduated from San Sebastian high school, but I'm not aware of which school he is currently enrolled in. Arvie Bringas, Ryan Buenafe, and current Maroon Julius Wong were on the same NCR basketball team that was victorious in the 2007 Palarong Pambansa last summer.

* * *Anthony Bringas is still with San Sebastian as a high school senior.* Unfortunately, he is ineligible for this year's NCAA tournament due to age.


Isip-ispin niyo, nag 19 na pero di pa graduate nang hs si kuya?

Talagang sinagad yung eligibility! Ilang beses kaya yan bumalik sa isang level sa hs?

Ito at yung nakakabatang kapatid ay gifted with the height and heft. Very coachable. Pero kailangan magbuhos ng maraming oras para mahasa. Simply, kulang pa sa skills.


i heard from some sources (PEx?!?!?) that arvie bringas is only in 2nd year HS, and already 18 years old... (!) hopefully someone can shed light on this, because if he's graduating, he should be at least a significant contributor off the bench as a 4/5...regardless where he suits up next year...

jollibeeaddict
08-01-2007, 02:21 PM
Bringas ba yan ng NCAA defending champion Staglets?

Dalawang punto lang-

1. Kakayanin bang magbuhat ng libro sa UP? "Alaga" ang mga iyan sa Baste.

2. I don't think he can contribute siginificantly right off his college freshman year. As it is, with all the attention Buenafe is getting in defense, he cannot assert his height and heft. That was evident in the Staglets two losses. Ano pa pag tulad niyang mama na ang katapat niya? Pero pag gumaling ang footwork nito maraming pahihirapan ang bata. But that would not be next season.

At yun ang pangangailangan ng UP, isang centro ng may malaking maitutulong AGAD. As in next season. UP will just have to find one outside the current rosters of the NCAA and UAAP.

based on your post, it seems like Arvie Bringas "will not able to survive" the strict and very rigorous academic requirements in UP. Lipa is very strict when it comes to his boys' academic requirements, with his main goal of making each and every Maroon in the current line-up finish his schooling in State U.

as for your last point, there is no "better" option for UP right now but to pursue Chiang Kai Shek's Justin Chua. the kid might not find it difficult to make the transition and contribution to UP next year given his performance in the Tiong Lian competitions.

LION
08-01-2007, 02:33 PM
Hey jaddict,

I heard before that Justin Chua is already practicing at the Katipunan gym.

jollibeeaddict
08-01-2007, 02:39 PM
Hey jaddict,

I heard before that Justin Chua is already practicing at the Katipunan gym.

really? :o

haven't heard much about Justin Chua since the Tiong Lian tournament ended. what i heard from since then was that UP was allegedly "courting" Justin. oh well... i hope the kid has not yet made any serious commitment yet.

Out_Of_The_Blue
08-01-2007, 03:15 PM
Katipunan naman ang UP di ba? ;)

jollibeeaddict
08-01-2007, 04:28 PM
Katipunan naman ang UP di ba?* ;)


oo nga pero yung UP Gym kasi ay mas malapit sa Commonwealth kaysa sa Katipunan. mas mapera pati yung mga kasa right side ng Katipunan kumpara sa amin so hindi na siguro dapat ipagtaka kung nasa kanila ngayon si Justin. :-[

dapat kasi maging mas specific kung sa aling side ng Katipunan napunta si Justin Chua, sa luntian at pula ba o sa asul at puti. ;)

Wang-Bu
08-01-2007, 05:11 PM
Aba kung pagmumulan lang ng away sa Katipunan ang batang ito magmamagandang-loob na lang kami sa hamak na Pamantasan ng Silangan na kami na ang kumupkop kay Justin Chua.

Magiging at-home naman siya sa Recto at hindi ito nalalayo sa kanilang tahanan, isang sakay lang ng Megatren ayos na siya. Maganda ang aming BS Accounting at BS Banking and Finance kung kursong BA ang trip niya, magagaling ang aming mga propesor. Tuloy-tuloy ang aming pag-renovate at pagpapa-high tech sa aming mga pasilidad. Kaya nga ganadong-ganado ang aming mga talentadong mga manlalaro na mag-aral ng husto.

;D ;D ;D

jollibeeaddict
08-01-2007, 08:28 PM
^ pareng Wang-Bu naman, punung-puno na kayo ng mga masasabi natin na pinakamagagaling na mga manlalaro sa college basketball. nandyan naman si Martinez at si Thiele na tila ba malaki ang pinagbago. ipabuya niyo na sana sa Unibersidad ng Pilipinas si Justin Chua dahil kami ang talagang nangangailangan sa laki at talento niya. ;D

Wang-Bu
08-03-2007, 09:18 AM
^^^ Basta ikaw Sir Jollibee. Sabagay halos buong lineup na nga naman namin ay pawang mga saksakan ng talentado... ;D

JonarSabilano
08-03-2007, 09:26 AM
Katipunan? Business course?

Aba, mag-PSBA na lang siya. Give chance to others. ;D

BLUE HORSE
08-03-2007, 11:16 AM
Jollibee,

Kindly take a stroll to the eagle's nest and feast your eyes on the thread, "Waiting in the wings". Most of your questions will be answered by reading the last 3 pages. Good reading if you are a blue and white fan. ;D

jollibeeaddict
08-03-2007, 02:19 PM
^ salamat. pasensya na at medyo bumabawi na lang ako sa talo namin yesterday by reading all Andi Manzano-related topics. ;D

Mateen Cleaves
08-03-2007, 02:39 PM
Katipunan? Business course?

Aba, mag-PSBA na lang siya. Give chance to others. ;D


PSBA? 'di ba naging farm school ng FEU ito dati? :)

jollibeeaddict
08-03-2007, 02:40 PM
Sir Mateen, ang UP kaya, wala bang balak gumawa ng parang Reedley at PSBA? ;D

JonarSabilano
08-03-2007, 02:48 PM
Katipunan? Business course?

Aba, mag-PSBA na lang siya. Give chance to others.* ;D


PSBA? 'di ba naging farm school ng FEU ito dati?* :)


Pati nga coach ng FEU, nanggaling din doon...

mighty_lion
08-06-2007, 09:57 AM
Thought of posting here the latest article of Sam Miguel from his column in the Homepage to further entice more dicsussions about the possible top high school senior players for this year's collegiate season.

STARS IN WAITING
By Sam Miguel as posted in Gameface.ph



How come we missed including Mirza on this list.* ;D

I thought UST just recruited the son of Ray Allen or Reggie Miller last Saturday. Fade-away and leaning sideway 3pt shot pasok! :D

erichubert
08-06-2007, 10:19 AM
Because Mirza is not a college newcomer. He actually played for UST's team B last season and is a transferee from World Citi College I think. These transferees from supposedly smaller basketball programs are becoming a force to be reckoned with, I hope gameface can feature the next wave of potential recruits from other college programs similar to how they featured the high school seniors. I am sure there are a lot of surprise recruits being hidden in the team Bs of different schools.

mighty_lion
08-06-2007, 10:35 AM
Thanks for the info erichubert. I thought Mirza was from UST tiger cubs.

erichubert
08-06-2007, 06:23 PM
With his reed-thin body, Mirza does seem like a kid straight out of high school but his game is obviously much more refined than a normal college freshman. UST seems to like these thin and tall athletic wings, Mirza actually reminds me of Anthony Espiritu and Francis Allera both at least 6'4 tall, lanky and are dead shots from the outside.

Two freshmen prospect not featured were Jonathan Banal of Mapua and Franz Dysam of UPHR. Curiously, IMO they are the front runners in the ROY award in the NCAA. Dysam actually played in Cebu so that might be the reason why he wasn't really noticed. Banal though has really surprised a lot of people this year. In FEU-fern last year, Banal was probably behind Rivera, Paguia, Knuttel, Lopez, Rosales and even Paulino in terms of recruitment but in he has outshone them so far this year.

mighty_lion
08-06-2007, 06:39 PM
With his reed-thin body, Mirza does seem like a kid straight out of high school but his game is obviously much more refined than a normal college freshman. UST seems to like these thin and tall athletic wings, Mirza actually reminds me of Anthony Espiritu and Francis Allera both at least 6'4 tall, lanky and are dead shots from the outside.

Two freshmen prospect not featured were Jonathan Banal of Mapua and Franz Dysam of UPHR. Curiously, IMO they are the front runners in the ROY award in the NCAA. Dysam actually played in Cebu so that might be the reason why he wasn't really noticed. Banal though has really surprised a lot of people this year. In FEU-fern last year, Banal was probably behind Rivera, Paguia, Knuttel, Lopez, Rosales and even Paulino in terms of recruitment but in he has outshone them so far this year.


Which let me think that UST has only two kind of players in their roster: Point Guards and Forwards. ;D

Awards in the NCAA is stats driven. Kahit gaano kaganda ang laro Banal its still Marcelo followed by Lanete in the latest stats race. Im not taking anything on Banal, but he is nevertheless deserving for ROY award.

erichubert
08-09-2007, 11:56 AM
That's surprising considering Banal is getting heavy minutes for the Cardinals, while Marcelo has been given sparse minutes backing up Ekwe. Marcelo is showing lots and lots of promise though in the limited minutes given him so I think he is also deserving of the ROY award. In the UAAP, I think it is almost a cinch that Gamboa would win the ROY award with the way he is playing right now. Its sad really for me that Ateneo could not find a spot for him in their roster when with they could obviously use a playmaker like him right now in their roster.

My top ten true-blue College Freshmen this season would be:
1. Mike Gamboa
2. Dave Marcelo
3. JR Cawaling
4. Jonathan Banal
5. Mark Lopez
6. Franz Dysam
7. Garvo Lanete
8. Paul Sanga
9. Kirk Long
10. Soc Rivera

batangueño
08-09-2007, 08:57 PM
Should Gamboa does become this year's Rookie of the Year, his move to the University of the Philippines, despite its dismal performance during the 1st round of eliminations, can be considered a blessing. This kid could even be better than Marvin Cruz in the future.

Sam Miguel
08-13-2007, 11:28 AM
^^^ Mike Gamboa will get better with more experience, and with the likes of Dexter Rosales, Mark Lopez, Julius Wong, Soc Rivera and Cyron Lozano growing up alongside him the future is indeed very bright for UP. He also has Julius Wong, Migs De Asis and Martin Reyes for at least another two years together. That's a solid core of nine players all growing up together. Best of all, the future could be as soon as Season 71, especially since Da Nose supposedly could pull a surprise in the Class of 2008 big man sweepstakes.

BigBlue
08-13-2007, 11:58 AM
Should Gamboa does become this year's Rookie of the Year, his move to the University of the Philippines, despite its dismal performance during the 1st round of eliminations, can be considered a blessing. This kid could even be better than Marvin Cruz in the future.


???
so kung hindi sya manalong ROY, or if UP won more games this year, hindi na blessing para sa UP ang desisyon ni Mike na lumipat dun?

batangueño
08-13-2007, 01:03 PM
???
so kung hindi sya manalong ROY, or if UP won more games this year, hindi na blessing para sa UP ang desisyon ni Mike na lumipat dun?

No. Not really. What I meant was that Gamboa's move was already a blessing on his part because he was already getting the playing time that he wanted to show his wares. Extra na lang siguro na siya ang maging ROY this year but I still see Gamboa as the future top point guard of the league. :)

gameface_one
10-25-2007, 01:40 PM
Locking this thread. Just proceed to the 2008 collegiate recruits discussion thread.