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Howard the Duck
10-03-2006, 03:19 PM
Bracket:
ADMU
PMI

MIT
SFACS

PCU
AMACU

UE
EAC

SBC
NU

ADU
UV

UST
JRU

CSJL
UC

First round
ADMU over PMI
MIT over SFACS
PCU over AMACU
UE over EAC
SBC over NU
UV over ADU
UST over JRU
UC over CSJL

Quarters
ADMU over MIT
UE over PCU
SBC over UV
UST over UC

Semis:
ADMU over UE
SBC over UST

Final:
UST over SBC

...EDITED...

oca
10-03-2006, 03:52 PM
University of the Visayas Lancers.

If the core of the team that competed in the National Students Championship held last Feb2006 at the RMC are playing in this CCL, may tulog ang mga taga-Maynila.

In the Nationals, kitang-kita na may laban ang mga Lancers. Medyo namangha lang ang ilang player ng makita nila yung mga star players from the UAAP and NCAA. Medyo starstruck, ika nga. But after getting the feel of the competition from that event, makikipagsabayan na ang mga iyan.

Sa palagay ko pa nga, lamang pa ang mga Lancers sa unang laban nila kontra ADU. Nakita na nila maglaro ang Falcons, pero walang kaalam-alam ang Falcons kung ano ang meron sa UV. Pag hindi eksakto sa tiempo ang adjustments ng Falcons, huwag magulat kung talunin.

MVBA
10-03-2006, 05:04 PM
University of the Visayas Lancers.

If the core of the team that competed in the National Students Championship held last Feb2006 at the RMC are playing in this CCL, may tulog ang mga taga-Maynila.
Watch out for the trio of MVBA veterans in Jayford Rodriguez, a hyperactive swingman who plays for M. Lhuillier Kwarta Padala-Cebu City and 6'7" Rino Berame and acrobatic Morsie Akad of Team Talisay (the forrmer Mantawi Traders).

i-point
10-03-2006, 07:33 PM
Magtatanong lang po. Sino ba ang nag-dikta ng mga ranking ng mga koponan sa CCL 2006? Paano ba ginawa ito? Ano ba ang ginamit na batayan? Hindi ba't parang ang baba naman ng seeding ng UV at ng ibang hindi taga-UAAP o NCAA?

Isa pa, bakit yung unang walong seeding ay parang nireserba kaagad sa mga pamantasan at kolehiyong galing sa UAAP at NCAA lamang? Halimbawa, karapat-dapat bang mataas ang ranking ng Letran samantalang wala na sina Bautista at Aban? Ang EAC ba, totoong bang pang-labindalawa lang?

joelex
10-04-2006, 02:29 AM
pls post naman the schedules, venue din and kung pwd tv scheds also, thanks,....

clutchjedi
10-04-2006, 11:56 AM
Isa pa, bakit yung unang walong seeding ay parang nireserba kaagad sa mga pamantasan at kolehiyong galing sa UAAP at NCAA lamang?

I'm not sure kung sino nga ang nag-decide ng seeding na ganito.

Pero isang advantage nito is that UAAP teams won't meet each other until the later rounds if ever, same for the NCAA teams.

Which means that sa earlier rounds assured tayo agad of inter-league matchups, which is what I think most of us want to see in CCL.

Still, I agree with everyone else who says that we don't need 4 (or more) UAAP & NCAA teams. Hanggang 3 each lang siguro, tapos may wild card lang pag exceptional cases. I'd rather see more teams from NAASCU, UCAA, CUSA, etc. plus some more provincial teams.


*May sked sa http://www.collegiatechampionsleague.com/schedules.shtml, pero mukhang temporary pa lang

Howard the Duck
10-04-2006, 03:53 PM
The seedings are BAD.
UST vs. SBC in the Semis?
Or do the organizers want an ADMU-SBC final? :-\ :-\

5FootCarrot
10-04-2006, 04:15 PM
I don't know if they were looking that far ahead when they set things up, but at any rate the tournament's just begun so let's just wait and see what happens in the games.

clutchjedi
10-04-2006, 04:29 PM
^ I think mali lang yung website nila, kasi the #1 seed (UST) should be in Group A, while #3 (Ateneo) should be in group D.* But right now they've got it the other way around.

If they correct that, the top seeds UST & San Beda shouldn't meet until (if) they reach the final.* And 2 & 3 (San Beda & Ateneo) would meet in the semis.* :)

Edited to add: According to MonL sa Red Lions' Den, the seedings were finalized before the UAAP finals ended. Oh well...ganun ba kahirap mag-adjust ng seeding/sked? It's just weird that the top seed in the Champions' League isn't the current champion of their league* :)

chongklc
10-05-2006, 05:59 PM
^ I think mali lang yung website nila, kasi the #1 seed (UST) should be in Group A, while #3 (Ateneo) should be in group D.* But right now they've got it the other way around.

If they correct that, the top seeds UST & San Beda shouldn't meet until (if) they reach the final.* And 2 & 3 (San Beda & Ateneo) would meet in the semis.* :)

Edited to add: According to MonL sa Red Lions' Den, the seedings were finalized before the UAAP finals ended. Oh well...ganun ba kahirap mag-adjust ng seeding/sked? It's just weird that the top seed in the Champions' League isn't the current champion of their league* :)


I'm not really sure who does the seedings, I read somewhere that its a panel of sports writers, basketball anyalysts who decide on the seedings / rankings. As far as the timing, the fact that its done before the finals of some of the leagues (i.e. before the UAAP Finals), I don't feel there's anything wrong with that...allow me to explain why:

The US NCAA Tournament is based on a seeding / ranking system that uses strength of schedule, home and away games, strength of league,etc,* in determining the seedings of the Top 64 / 65 teams. Also, the final seedings for the teams are usually out even before their own tournaments end (i.e. ACC Tournament, Big Ten Tournament, etc...), except probably for the lower seeds, the seedings are already in place even before each Tournament's champion are known. In other words, let's say a team like North Carolina wins most of its games in the regular season (i.e. Ateneo playing well during the regular season, 10-2 record), and Duke, has a couple of losses in the season (i.e. UST finishing the regular season with a 6-6 record), however, in the ACC Tournament, North Carolina loses to Duke in the finals (i.e. Ateneo losing to UST in the UAAP Finals), while North Carolina did not win their own tournament, the ACC (in our case, Ateneo did not win the UAAP Championship), in the NCAA Tournament, North Carolina would still be ranked higher than Duke by the NCAA Tournament Committee, only because they displayed a season long brilliance, while Duke, despite having won the ACC Tournament, did not really perform all that well throughout the season.

Admittedly, the CCL panel probably didn't have these tools to make the rankings. In fact, it is so hard to judge the competitiveness of let's say, UAAP as compared to NCAA, let alone the different teams from the different leagues for the simple reason that they don't play against each other.

In the end though, its not that I agree or disagree that Ateneo should be the No. 1 seed or San Beda should be No. 1 or UST should be No. 1. What I disagree with is the thinking that winning the league title (whether it's UAAP, NCAA, CuSA, etc...) should mean that you should be seeded No. 1, or at least seeded higher than the team you beat, because the CCL, assuming they really want to pattern it after the US NCAA Tournament should reward a team that displayed a season long brilliance, and not those that just got hot at the right time and at the right place (again, no bias towards any team, just stating an opinion)

LION
10-05-2006, 06:07 PM
The seedings are BAD.
UST vs. SBC in the Semis?
Or do the organizers want an ADMU-SBC final? :-\ :-\


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Howard, para mo na ring sinabing talo na ang UST sa San Beda. :)

It's 50-50. Pwede ring maging ADMU-UST finals yan. Or UST vs. UE.

Peace out my bro. :)

MVBA
10-05-2006, 10:41 PM
WE wish the University of the Visayas Green Lancers and the University of Cebu Webmasters the best of luck as they do battle in the 2006 Collegiate Champions League. Raise the banner of the Vis-Min players, combati na!

Howard the Duck
10-06-2006, 02:06 AM
The seedings are BAD.
UST vs. SBC in the Semis?
Or do the organizers want an ADMU-SBC final? :-\ :-\


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Howard, para mo na ring sinabing talo na ang UST sa San Beda. :)

It's 50-50. Pwede ring maging ADMU-UST finals yan. Or UST vs. UE.

Peace out my bro. :)



hindi naman, kasi mas patok naman ang ateneo-sbc kaysa ateneo-ust di ba?
dapat 4th seed ang USTe, payag pa ako. para may possibility na mag-face-off sa finals ang uaap at ncaa champs. sa ngayon wala eh.

LION
10-06-2006, 07:53 AM
^^^ Yun na nga lang, hindi pwedeng magharap sa finals ang UST at SBC. Pero at least pwede tayong maglaban sa semis. I'd really like to know if Jervy can do his stuff against Sam Ekwe. I am a big fan of Sam Ekwe and Jervy Cruz. I am a sucker for relative unknowns who defy the odds. This is the reason why I like Freddie Abuda so much.

Sam will be biggest test of Jervy. Of course, I want San Beda to win, but I'd also like to see Jervy perform well against Sam. If he is able to put up good numbers against Sam, then I am sure that he will be on his way to superstardom.

danny
10-07-2006, 01:50 AM
^ I think mali lang yung website nila, kasi the #1 seed (UST) should be in Group A, while #3 (Ateneo) should be in group D. But right now they've got it the other way around.

If they correct that, the top seeds UST & San Beda shouldn't meet until (if) they reach the final. And 2 & 3 (San Beda & Ateneo) would meet in the semis. :)

Edited to add: According to MonL sa Red Lions' Den, the seedings were finalized before the UAAP finals ended. Oh well...ganun ba kahirap mag-adjust ng seeding/sked? It's just weird that the top seed in the Champions' League isn't the current champion of their league :)


I'm not really sure who does the seedings, I read somewhere that its a panel of sports writers, basketball anyalysts who decide on the seedings / rankings. As far as the timing, the fact that its done before the finals of some of the leagues (i.e. before the UAAP Finals), I don't feel there's anything wrong with that...allow me to explain why:

The US NCAA Tournament is based on a seeding / ranking system that uses strength of schedule, home and away games, strength of league,etc, in determining the seedings of the Top 64 / 65 teams. Also, the final seedings for the teams are usually out even before their own tournaments end (i.e. ACC Tournament, Big Ten Tournament, etc...), except probably for the lower seeds, the seedings are already in place even before each Tournament's champion are known. In other words, let's say a team like North Carolina wins most of its games in the regular season (i.e. Ateneo playing well during the regular season, 10-2 record), and Duke, has a couple of losses in the season (i.e. UST finishing the regular season with a 6-6 record), however, in the ACC Tournament, North Carolina loses to Duke in the finals (i.e. Ateneo losing to UST in the UAAP Finals), while North Carolina did not win their own tournament, the ACC (in our case, Ateneo did not win the UAAP Championship), in the NCAA Tournament, North Carolina would still be ranked higher than Duke by the NCAA Tournament Committee, only because they displayed a season long brilliance, while Duke, despite having won the ACC Tournament, did not really perform all that well throughout the season.

Admittedly, the CCL panel probably didn't have these tools to make the rankings. In fact, it is so hard to judge the competitiveness of let's say, UAAP as compared to NCAA, let alone the different teams from the different leagues for the simple reason that they don't play against each other.



In short , the US NCAA system that was discussed is inapproriate to Pinas. Can anyone discuss the tools that can be used in Pinas given the state of things?

danny
10-07-2006, 01:54 AM
Ika nga ni Anthony:

Kombat na lang!

easter
10-07-2006, 09:29 AM
Kahit naman sa US NCAA laging controversial ang seedings. Ganyan din ang mga usap-usapan. Sino ang dapat na top seed or bakit kasali ang team na ito etc.

kryptonite
10-07-2006, 09:41 AM
Magtatanong lang po. Sino ba ang nag-dikta ng mga ranking ng mga koponan sa CCL 2006? Paano ba ginawa ito? Ano ba ang ginamit na batayan? Hindi ba't parang ang baba naman ng seeding ng UV at ng ibang hindi taga-UAAP o NCAA?

Isa pa, bakit yung unang walong seeding ay parang nireserba kaagad sa mga pamantasan at kolehiyong galing sa UAAP at NCAA lamang? Halimbawa, karapat-dapat bang mataas ang ranking ng Letran samantalang wala na sina Bautista at Aban? Ang EAC ba, totoong bang pang-labindalawa lang?




Malamang ang batayan kung bakit ang UAAP at NCAA comprised the first 8 seeds is due to the level of competitiveness of the two leagues. Yung ibang leagues kasi parang lumalakas ang ibang teams kasi mahina ang opposition o level of competition. Kahit yung NU malakas compared sa ibang provincial teams, pero kulelat naman sa UAAP.

i-point
10-07-2006, 10:22 AM
Sa pangkalahatan, puede sigurong sabihin na mas malakas nga ang mga liga ng UAAP at NCAA. Pero parang otomatikiong ibigay ng "sports panel"/media ang unang walong seeding sa mga koponan na galing dito, samantalang nandiyan naman ang liga sa Cebu na pinangungunahan ng UV, ewan ko na lang kung tama iyon.

Itong University of Visayas, taon-taon na lang na ginawa ng Diyos, ay palaging may malakas na koponan (wala pa ngang talo sa loob ng 5-6 na taon), lagi na lang nakikipagbakbakan sa mga koponan base sa NCR at halos magpakamatay para manalo, wala sa top 8? Noong mga nakaraang taon na malakas ang UM o St. Francis, dahil hindi naglalaro sa UAAP o NC, sorry na lang, wala sa top 8?

bleachertalk
10-07-2006, 03:51 PM
In the case of UV, they made it to the Final Four in the first & third editions of the Champions' League. They beat PCU for third place in the third edition & placed third again in the PBF organized national collegiate basketball tournament last Feb '06. And now they're seeded # 10......Hmmm.

john_paul_manahan
10-07-2006, 05:02 PM
hmmm... i wonder who did the seeding? i wonder who comprises the selection committee?

anyhow, would you know would would have been deserving for a slot? who were on the bubble, so to speak...

AnthonyServinio
10-07-2006, 10:57 PM
hmmm... i wonder who did the seeding? i wonder who comprises the selection committee?

anyhow, would you know would would have been deserving for a slot? who were on the bubble, so to speak...

* * *From what I understand, the organizers invited some sportswriters to lunch at the National Sports Grill wherein they made some debates and then voted to select the three wild cards (which were NU, JRU and PMI).

* * *One sportswriter (who will remain anonymous) even sent me an SMS that morning asking where the restaurant was located so go figure!

* * *By the way, I was not at the meeting because I was back in Cebu City already.* However, I did send out SMS to some sportswriters to "campaign" for certain schools I believed deserved a wild card.

john_paul_manahan
10-08-2006, 12:53 AM
thanks, anthony...

anyhow, the groundwork has been lain... parang BCS ito...

Howard the Duck
10-08-2006, 11:50 PM
BCS is da bomb lol...

Dapat kasi regional qualifying - kahit UAAP at NCAA, may qualifying groups sa MM, Luzon, Visayas at Mindanao, tapos parang top 2 ang kukunin.

Tapos, draw lots :D

Wang-Bu
10-09-2006, 03:30 PM
Kung ako lang wala na sanang seeding at bracket. Isipin na lang natin na ang Champion's League ay ang TUNAY na Liga Primera ng Pilipinas, parang 'yung NCAA sa US. Hindi ko kasi mawari kung minsan, 'yung Duke ilang beses pa lang bang nanalo sa ACC na conference nila talaga, pero mas all out sila kapag 'yung mismong NCAA tournament na, ganun din ang UCLA sa PAC-10 tsaka Michigan sa Big 10 (o Big East bang Wolverines...?) Ang punto dito, dapat kung titignan mas mahalaga at mas may prestige ang Champion's League kaysa sa NCAA, UAAP, NAASCU o ano pa mang mas maliliit na liga. Sa Champion's League kasi naiipon ang lahat ng mga malalakas na team, mga tunay na pambato sa isang kampeonato at from all over the country pa. Hindi ito mga pipitsuging koponan na patse-patse lang.

Kunwari na lang: UE ka, nanalo ka sa UAAP, tinanghal kang kampeon, napanood ka ng milyon-milyon sa TV. Tapos kunwari sumablay ka sa UV Lancers o kaya sa West Negros o kahit sa PMI. Hindi kaya dapat 'yung tumalo sa iyo ang mas tanghalin bilang kampeon ng mga kampeon? Sa Champion's League kasi masusubukan kung talagang kampeon nga ang isang koponan dahil mga kapwa kampeon o pambato na pang-kampeonato ang mga kalaban.

easter
10-09-2006, 03:40 PM
^Gaya siguro ng anumang bagay dito sa mundo lalo na sa business or ib'at-ibang propesyon, bago ka umangat ay dapat may patunayan ka muna. Bago ka umakyat ng posisyon sa isang kumpanya ay dapat magperform ka ng maayos. Bago lumago ang isang business ay dapat mapatunayan na maganda ang iyong produkto or serbisyo.

Ito ang nangyayari ngayon sa Champion's League. Mahirap kasi ma-eclipse agad ang prestige ng isang NCAA (82 years na) at isang UAAP (69 years strong) at tapos dadating ka na lang bilang isang bagong salta na liga? Mahirap yan, ngayon kung paano nila papatunayan na dapat seryosohin ang CCL ay di ko na alam pero siguro magsimula sila sa mas maayos na scheduling at mas credible na seeding. Pero as usual simula lang yan.

gfy
10-09-2006, 05:43 PM
Per Rey Gamboa, quarterfinals will be on Friday and Saturday at Rizal Memorial Coliseum. Semi-finals on the 19th and finals on the 21st. Venues to be determined later.

gfy
10-09-2006, 07:10 PM
JRU eliminates UST daw.

petalpusher
10-10-2006, 12:20 AM
65 - 63 in favor of JRU, UST eliminated

MC21
10-10-2006, 02:30 AM
Hehehehe NCAA's bottom team JRU ousted UAAP's champ UST. Well, UST gave it all and all their players gave their best to no avail.

kryptonite
10-10-2006, 08:33 AM
Tigers bomb bid in Champs League

The Philippine Star

Mark Cagoco knocked in two pressure-packed charities in the last 1:56 then Jose Rizal University held on to score a stunning 65-63 upset win over newly-crowned UAAP champion University of Santo Tomas in the Collegiate Champions League at the UST gym.

The Heavy Bombers held the Tigers scoreless while scoring 13 points in the first 6:22 of the payoff period to seize control, 63-61, on a basket by JM Wilson with less than four minutes left en route to the biggest reversal posted in the knockout tournament among the top 16 schools in the land.

Dylan Ababou sank two free throws to tie the count at 63-all, 3:22 to go in the contest, before Cagoco came through with his endgame heroics at the stripe to the disappointment of a big UST crowd.

It was indeed a sorry setback for the Tigers, who only last week essayed one of most stirring victories in the UAAP by upending the fancied Ateneo Eagles, 2-1, in the best of three series.

"The boys’ big fighting heart carried us through," said JRU coach Ariel Vanguardia in Filipino. "Like what I’ve said before the game, we’re the underdogs here but we’ll be there fighting."

Save for a brief commotion in the second period, the Tigers were in control of the first half.

Tigers June Dizon and Mel Gile were thrown out for entering the court after Marvin Hayes of JRU committed an unsportsmanlike foul on Jojo Duncil, 7:34 before halftime. Duncil also got a technical foul for second motion.

But the Tigers quickly regained their composure and posted several double-digit leads, the biggest at 37-23 after back-to-back hits by Jervy Cruz.

The victory thus sent JRU, a wildcard entry from the NCAA, to a quarterfinal match with Letran.

Earlier, University of Visayas turned back seventh-seeded Adamson, 70-67, to advance to the quarters.

Von Lanete sank two free throws with 6.9 seconds left to help secure the victory for the Green Lancers, ranked 10 in a field of 16.

"We came here to win," said UV coach and ex-pro Elmer "Boy" Cabahug. "We studied their moves in the first half then we attacked them in the last two quarters."

The Green Lancers will next meet the winner between NCAA champions San Beda College Red Lions and the National University Bulldogs.

Akad, who also pushed their lead to 68-65 with 1:18 to play, led the many-time CESAFI champion with 13 points and nine rebounds.

"Magandang panalo sa amin ‘to dahil dapat ‘yung mga magagaling nila sa amin naglalaro," said UV assistant coach Al Solis, referring to Bono, Cabahug and Roel Hugnatan.

Jay Rodriguez and Dino Berame, the MVP contenders of the Green Lancers in their league, combined for 20 points and 17 rebounds.

Berame, a talented 6-foot-7 slotman, also had three shot blocks, including one against Bono in the final minute.

"Ang bentahe namin sa kanila (Falcons) is ‘yung bilis namin. Pati kasi sentro namin nakakatakbo," noted Solis.

The Green Lancers had four more fastbreak points than the Falcons, 8-4, and five more points off turnovers, 10-5. They also picked up four more steals, 7-3.

kryptonite
10-10-2006, 08:45 AM
Sa pangkalahatan, puede sigurong sabihin na mas malakas nga ang mga liga ng UAAP at NCAA. Pero parang otomatikiong ibigay ng "sports panel"/media ang unang walong seeding sa mga koponan na galing dito, samantalang nandiyan naman ang liga sa Cebu na pinangungunahan ng UV, ewan ko na lang kung tama iyon.

Itong University of Visayas, taon-taon na lang na ginawa ng Diyos, ay palaging may malakas na koponan (wala pa ngang talo sa loob ng 5-6 na taon), lagi na lang nakikipagbakbakan sa mga koponan base sa NCR at halos magpakamatay para manalo, wala sa top 8? Noong mga nakaraang taon na malakas ang UM o St. Francis, dahil hindi naglalaro sa UAAP o NC, sorry na lang, wala sa top 8?


Ang UV malakas sa Cebu kasi konti ang mga quality teams duon. Pero if you take a look of a lot of talented basketball players playing in Manila, karamihan tubong Cebuano or traces their roots from the South.

Kung ang UV ilagay mo sa UAAP o NCAA, baka di na maging undefeated yun. Sa recruitment at pirating lang ng DLSU, ADMU at SBC, e, talo na agad sila.

One thing more, it is only this year that the top 8 seeds belonged either to the NCAA or UAAP. In the past, St. Francis was seeded first or second if my memory serves me right, especially during the time of Ranidel De Ocampo and Irvin Sotto two years ago.

UM was never seeded high in the CCL because they were not that strong compared to St. Francis. Champion nga sila pero mahina quality ng opposition nila.

Parang sa SEA games at Olympics yan. Porke ba champion ang Pilipinas palagi sa SEA games dapat may mataas silang seeding sa Olympics? Di yata pwde yun. Ang UAAP at NCAA parang European Championships o Tournament of the Americas compared to the NCRAA, NAASCU, UCAA, CUSA, or CESAFI na parang SEA Games o Asian Games.

i-point
10-10-2006, 09:45 AM
Kryptonite, sang-ayon ako sa mga obserbasyon mo. Ang tinututulan ko lang ay ang mentalidad na ipinamalas ng "sports panel" o media sa taong ito na ang unang walong seeding ay para sa mga koponang UAAP at NCAA lamang. Totoo nga na ang mga pinakamalakas na liga ay ang mga ito, pero hindi rin tama na walang ibang koponan ang maaring i-rank sa top 8 ng CCL. Kahit ba sabihin na nating mahina ang antas ng kompetisyon sa CESAFI (puede pa ngang pagtalunan ang usaping iyan), ang UV, dahil na rin sa track record nito sa ibang mga pambansang torneo, at dapat naman sigurong kinonsidera, imbis na pang-sampu lang ang ranking (mas mataas pa nga ang seeding ng EAC). Sa totoo lang, ang Letran na wala nang Bautista at Aban ay, para sa akin, hindi karapat-dapat na mai-seed na pang-anim.

Tama, hindi porke nag-champion ang isang koponan sa isang liga ay dapat otomatikong mataas ang seeding nito (maliban na lang kung ang liga ay UAAP o NCAA). Dapat masusing pinag-aralan ng "sports panel" na iyan (kung ginawa nga nila) ang karanasan at husay ng mga manlalaro, ang lakas ng liga, ang tradisyon sa pagpapanalo, atbp. At sa taong ito, karapat-dapat lang na nasa top 8 ang UV. (Sa palagay ko lang, puedeng sila i-seed na pampito - una sa kanila ang San Beda, USTe, ADMU, UE, PCU at Adamson.)

oca
10-10-2006, 11:18 AM
University of the Visayas Lancers.

If the core of the team that competed in the National Students Championship held last Feb2006 at the RMC are playing in this CCL, may tulog ang mga taga-Maynila.

In the Nationals, kitang-kita na may laban ang mga Lancers. Medyo namangha lang ang ilang player ng makita nila yung mga star players from the UAAP and NCAA. Medyo starstruck, ika nga. But after getting the feel of the competition from that event, makikipagsabayan na ang mga iyan.

Sa palagay ko pa nga, lamang pa ang mga Lancers sa unang laban nila kontra ADU. Nakita na nila maglaro ang Falcons, pero walang kaalam-alam ang Falcons kung ano ang meron sa UV. Pag hindi eksakto sa tiempo ang adjustments ng Falcons, huwag magulat kung talunin.


It was practically the same team I saw in the National Students Championship and it does not surprise me that they beat the Falcons.

But the way the story was carried in the dailies, parang gulat-na-gulat ang mga sumulat ng report. Obvious na mababaw ang kaalaman ng mga ito. Kaya huwag na tayo magtaka kung bakit ganoon ang seedings. The same league of reporters did the seedings.

Tama si Anthony Servino, walang alam panoorin yan mga iyan kundi UAAP at NCAA, NCAA at UAAP. That National Championshiop was held here in Manila last Feb at the RMC, admission was free and di nila alam kung ano ang lakas ng UV ?

oca
10-10-2006, 12:29 PM
The way UST and Adamson were defeated yesterday, gusto ko nang maniwala duon sa mga fanatics ng NC' na malambot maglaro ang mga taga-UAAP.

The only common thing between the winners yesterday, JRU and UV, is its physical brand of play; and two highly touted UAAP teams fell by the wayside.

The way Jervy Cruz and Jojo Duncil reacted to those contacts, it is obvious hindi sila sanay sa ganoong laro. Both were assessed unsportsmanlike fouls for second motion. Jervy was called twice and was ejected. Duncil once.

As for Adamson, Bono got clobbered inside time after time. He was shaking his head in disbelief for not getting the favor of the referees. He was limited to 13 pts. Way off his UAAP average of 21, and not even close to his season low of 18. He settled for outside shots for the rest of the second half. The champions of Cebu granted him those low percentage shots and the UAAP MVP missed the game tying 3-ptr in their last possession.

Eto ngayon ang magandang abangan,* ka-bracket ng Ateneo ang MIT at sila ang magtatagpo sa next round.

Kung di pa alam ng mga taga-UAAP, MIT has the second most "rugged defense" at the NCAA after Letran. Meron ngang isang player dyan binansagang GOON-zales. Now, that should give you an idea how he plays. He epitomizes the team defense of the Cardinals.

The refs here at the CCL have allowed the kind of contact any physical team would relish. Gaya ng sinulat ni Wang-Bu sa “Zeroing In On the Zebras”,

"OK lang ang handcheck. Tsaka OK rin lang ang banggaan. Huwag lang garapalan at walang sikohan at sahuran. Hahayaan namin kayong maglaro basta hindi larong gago."

Ganyan ang sinabi nung mga referee na pumito dun sa Champion's League game nung UE at EAC.

Obviously, magkaibang grupo ng referee ang may hawak ng pito sa UAAP at dito sa CCL.

Kung sa UAAP ay maraming sentimiento ang mga taga-Katipunan sa mga non-calls on Jervy Cruz, at si Jervy Cruz naman ay di-mapigilang di gumanti kahapon, isipin niyo na lang kung anong klaseng laro ang pinahihintulutan ng mga referee dito sa Champions League.

Kung di-makakayanan ng Blue Eagles and physical brand of play ng Cardinals, tiyak talo. But if the former remains focus game long and not get distracted by the non-calls, they should send the Cardinals to an early semestral break.

Ranger
10-10-2006, 04:32 PM
The PBL referees are the ones calling the games at the CCL. These referees only know one brand of game. The PBL type of game - no harm no foul! I'm not sure if these guys are accustomed to the FIBA rules...

J.B.
10-10-2006, 05:32 PM
I think tama lang na masanay sila sa ganung referees...ganun din naman sa PBA eh...mas grabe pa nga yung pisikalan dun eh...parang preparation nadin for the PBL then to the PBA

Wang-Bu
10-10-2006, 06:05 PM
Nagtataka din ako kung bakit ambaba ng seeding ng UV considering na matinding koponan sila sa Vis-Min area. Marami na ngang paaralan na galing Kamaynilaan ang nadale nila nitong mga last 15 to 20 years na din. Alam ko natalo nila nung mga bandang 1989 ang isang San Sebastian team na merong Bong Solomon at Eugene Quilban, nadale din nila dati ang isang UE team na merong Jolly Escobar at Bong Ravena nung mga bandang 1991. Matindi ang UV, at para sa akin ay isang malaking hiwaga kung bakit wala sila sa top half ng seedings.

Sa mga refs naman, talagang mas maganda tawagan ng PBL refs, mas hinahayaang maglaro ang mga player. Matindi na talaga ang kananaan sa UAAP, na tancha ko naman ay kasalanan din ng Rules Committee. Kahit gaanong kabobo pumito ang referee makaka-adjust sila sa kung anong gustong pairalin ng Rules Committee. Hindi sanay sa banggaan ang mga UAAP player kasi sila mismo hindi pwedeng mambangga ng ganun-ganun lang sa UAAP, tatawagan sila ng referee ng wala silang kalaban-laban. Sa NCAA hindi ako pamilyar kung NABRO din ang pumipito, pero mas maraming Let-Go na tawag sa NCAA, na alam na alam ng mga taga-San Beda dahil madalas nabiktima mga player nila ng mga ganitong Let-Go nitong Season 82.

Madalas mag-preseason scrimmage ang Ateneo at Mapua, malabong ma-ambush ang mga Agila ng mga Cardinals, huwag lang siempreng maglaro na mistulang iyakan ang gagawin nung mga taga-Katipunan. Ang maganda nito may sapat na mga tao ang Mapua gaya nina Sean Co, Kelvin Dela Pena, Joferson Gonzalez at Neil Pascual para tapatan ng husto ang Ateneo. Ewan kung makakalaro si Jay Migraso at na-thrown out siya kasama ni Leo Losentes nung laro ng SFACS at Mapua. Kung maganda depensa nina Coach Ari Lim may laban ang Cardinals. Pero kung lumampas ng 80 ang total ng Ateneo patay ng Mapua.

jancarlo
10-10-2006, 07:18 PM
Yung Ateneo at UE parang asa NCAA na rin. Haha.

Dark Knight
10-10-2006, 07:39 PM
guys, who won in the San Beda vs NU game kanina?? Thanks ;D

cub
10-10-2006, 07:46 PM
San Beda 75
NU - 72
Final

cub
10-10-2006, 07:48 PM
a very nice rugged game.. Taupa, Dela Cruz and Malagueño were ejected..
Sam Ekwe did not play..

MonL
10-10-2006, 07:51 PM
San Beda 75
NU - 72
Final


Courtesy of a Pong Escobal buzzer beater.

cub
10-10-2006, 08:05 PM
San Beda 75
NU - 72
Final


Courtesy of a Pong Escobal buzzer beater.


huh? hindi buzzer beater.. the score was 74 72 then Pong split his charities kaya naging 75..

uelaap
10-10-2006, 09:04 PM
Naglaro ba si Alex Angeles? Bakit hindi naglaro si Sam Ekwe?

nash_bedista
10-10-2006, 09:14 PM
naglaro si Captain Angeles kanina... siya ang nag simula ng rally ng Red Lions. Kay Sam Ekwe naman, i think yung injury bothered him.... Bangko siya hanggang 4th. Last Mins ng 4th quarter dapat ipapasok siya pero binawi ni Coach Koy.. So napatunayan din namin na hindi lang kay Sam umaasa... Kahit nahirapan kinina, ok lng ..

uelaap
10-10-2006, 09:24 PM
okay thanks. =) I thought he didnt play.

jancarlo
10-11-2006, 12:07 AM
Astig yung game sa Saturday. Haha. Parang Balik-NCAA ang Ateneo sa Sabado.

Eto next games:
October 13 - Rizal Coliseum
2 PM - UE vs. PCU
4 PM - UV vs. San Beda

October 14 - Rizal Coliseum
2 PM - Letran vs. JRU
4 PM - Ateneo vs. Mapua

kryptonite
10-11-2006, 01:05 AM
hmmm... i wonder who did the seeding? i wonder who comprises the selection committee?

anyhow, would you know would would have been deserving for a slot? who were on the bubble, so to speak...


I think the seedings were done by sports journalists around the country. Ganyan din naman yata ginagawa sa US NCAA, ang sports journalists ang gumagawa ng seedings like the Associated Press, correct me if I'm wrong.

gfy
10-11-2006, 06:21 AM
Without Ekwe, mahihirapan ang San Beda sa UV. Meron sila 6'7" na mahusay gumalaw. May mga shooters din. Kung ejected ba, suspended ba for next game? Anyway, good luck sa SBC. Hope Ateneo-SBC sa finals. Sabi ko kay Rey Gamboa, sa Araneta gawin kung ganun at mapupuno ang Araneta.

MonL
10-11-2006, 07:08 AM
San Beda 75
NU - 72
Final


Courtesy of a Pong Escobal buzzer beater.


huh? hindi buzzer beater.. the score was 74 72 then Pong split his charities kaya naging 75..


Oonga, eh. :P Kita ko na lang nung delayed telecast. The margin was from a Jamal two and a Pong split. Hatinggabi na kaya di na ako naka-correct ng post. :)

LION
10-11-2006, 07:29 AM
San Beda 75
NU - 72
Final


Courtesy of a Pong Escobal buzzer beater.


huh? hindi buzzer beater.. the score was 74 72 then Pong split his charities kaya naging 75..


Someone in b.com posted that we won via a Pong Escobal buzzer beater. I was eagerly waiting to see a tv replay of that only to get disappointed. Wala naman palang buzzer beater. Geez. Sana naman mag-ingat sa pag post ng live updates. Mukhang triple hearsay ang pinanggalingan nung balita na yun.

Ang masama nito, naipasa ko din yung info na yun kina MonL at Dy. Kaya ayan nai-post din ni MonL. >:(

5FootCarrot
10-11-2006, 08:07 AM
Niloko naman kami ni Chito Jaime.

Nung nasa Ateneo siya, parating naka-knee-high socks. Akala namin may tinatagong tattoo o kung anuman. Kagabi, nakita ko siyang nakasuot ng mababang medyas. Wala naman pala!

(Idol pala kasi niya si Samboy Lim. :))

easter
10-11-2006, 08:13 AM
strikethrough

LION
10-11-2006, 08:14 AM
Re Chito Jaime, magaling talaga ang player na ito. Kumpleto sa galaw. kaya lang mukhang hindi nagpapakundisyon. Hindi na halos makatakbo at makalundag nung last quarter kaya ayun naiwanan tuloy ng PCU. Siguro kung halfcourt yung laro baka nanalo pa ang AMACU. * *;D * Sayang si Chito dapat sa UAAP o NCAA siya naglalaro. Siguradong pag aagawan sa PBA yan.


Grabe yung suntukan ni Taupa at Dela Cruz or Dela Pena ba yun. *Buti na lang walang tumama dun sa mga pinakawalan nilang mga suntok dahil siguradong ospital ang babagsakan nung tatamaan. *Todo bigay ba naman yung mga suntok.

MonL
10-11-2006, 08:30 AM
San Beda 75
NU - 72
Final


Courtesy of a Pong Escobal buzzer beater.




huh? hindi buzzer beater.. the score was 74 72 then Pong split his charities kaya naging 75..


Someone in b.com posted that we won via a Pong Escobal buzzer beater.* I was eagerly waiting to see a tv replay of that only to get disappointed. Wala naman palang buzzer beater. Geez. Sana naman mag-ingat sa pag post ng live updates. Mukhang triple hearsay ang pinanggalingan nung balita na yun.* *

Ang masama nito, naipasa ko din yung info na yun kina MonL at Dy.* Kaya ayan nai-post din ni MonL.* *>:(


Tindig lahat ng buhok ko sa ulo ngayon. Kasi nakoryente ako.* :D

amacu
10-11-2006, 03:22 PM
Re Chito Jaime, magaling talaga ang player na ito. Kumpleto sa galaw. kaya lang mukhang hindi nagpapakundisyon. Hindi na halos makatakbo at makalundag nung last quarter kaya ayun naiwanan tuloy ng PCU. Siguro kung halfcourt yung laro baka nanalo pa ang AMACU. * *;D ** Sayang si Chito dapat sa UAAP o NCAA siya naglalaro. Siguradong pag aagawan sa PBA yan.


Grabe yung suntukan ni Taupa at Dela Cruz or Dela Pena ba yun. *Buti na lang walang tumama dun sa mga pinakawalan nilang mga suntok dahil siguradong ospital ang babagsakan nung tatamaan. *Todo bigay ba naman yung mga suntok.


thnx s comment mo kay chito.. thats part of the game at d kami nanghihinayang kung natalo kami suwerte lang ang kalaban... regarding s pagkuha s kanya... u watch out n lang khit d cy galing ng UAAP and NCAA marami n kumukuha s kanya s PBL... darating din un s PBA maKkatapos DIN n cy s AMA... GOD BLESS

razor
10-11-2006, 08:42 PM
^ Saan nag-high school si Chito Jaime?

dvdx
10-11-2006, 09:16 PM
on the brackets....


dapat lottery na lang. parang UEFA. para walang angal.

danny
10-12-2006, 01:38 AM
Nalagas ang mga UAAP squads including the UAAP Champion. Kung kakayanin ng Ateneo ang physical game ng Mapua, mas mabuti. Otherwise this will be an all NCAA championship duel.

Mukhang kinalawang ang Red Lions. Sobra sa party. Kung nagkatoan tayo lang sa NCAA team ang natanggal kaagad. ;D

khernitz
10-12-2006, 09:30 AM
Nalagas ang mga UAAP squads including the UAAP Champion. Kung kakayanin ng Ateneo ang physical game ng Mapua, mas mabuti. Otherwise this will be an all NCAA championship duel.

Mukhang kinalawang ang Red Lions. Sobra sa party. Kung nagkatoan tayo lang sa NCAA team ang natanggal kaagad. ;D




he he para ngang nag break-in muna....ginamit lahat except those nursing injuries....pangtanggal kalawang.... :D

pero masaya yung laro...walang pressure yung players, cool lang sila and masaya...halata sa kilos....

gamberro
10-12-2006, 04:33 PM
Meron bang delayed telecast? Db sa BTV ito pinapalabas? Sino ba nanalo sa PCU vs UE? thanks po!!!

clutchjedi
10-12-2006, 06:06 PM
^* For the first round the two games (2pm and 4pm) per playdate were shown only on delayed telecast at BTV same evening at 7PM and 9 PM ata. I'm not sure if that will be the case for all the later rounds or if they'll do live coverage at some point (I hope).

Bukas pa ang start ng next round, as posted by jancarlo earlier.

danny
10-14-2006, 07:44 AM
Meron bang delayed telecast? Db sa BTV ito pinapalabas? Sino ba nanalo sa PCU vs UE? thanks po!!!


UE.

danny
10-14-2006, 07:56 AM
Next stop for the battle hardened, chest-pounding, red-flag waving, tomahawk toting Bedan Red Army - Letran.

Ang saya saya. 8)

AnthonyServinio
10-15-2006, 01:17 AM
Next stop for the battle hardened, chest-pounding, red-flag waving, tomahawk toting Bedan Red Army* -* Letran.

Ang saya saya. 8)
FINAL FOUR PAIRINGS:


(2) SAN BEDA vs. (14) Jose Rizal

(5) East vs. (8) Mapua Tech

* * *Three out of four schools are from the NCAA . . . GO NCAA!!!* *;D

ANIMO SAN BEDA
VIVA MAPUA
MABUHAY RIZAL

Howard the Duck
10-15-2006, 01:21 AM
GO FIGHT RED AND WHITE! na rin :P

danny
10-17-2006, 01:08 AM
FINAL FOUR PAIRINGS:


(2) SAN BEDA vs. (14) Jose Rizal

(5) East vs. (8) Mapua Tech

* * *Three out of four schools are from the NCAA . . . GO NCAA!!!* *;D

ANIMO SAN BEDA
VIVA MAPUA
MABUHAY RIZAL


Thanks Anthony!

hehehe.. ay ang saya saya... malamang tama hula ni pareng Wang Bu. San Beda - UE .. walang Pusa sa Pusa kaya Pula sa Pula! Pero pwede ding All-NCAA finals!

What happened to the other UAAP squads? ;D

cub
10-19-2006, 05:31 PM
UE defeated Mapua, 84-73.
SBC defeated JRU, 61-58.

LION
10-19-2006, 05:54 PM
FINALS - San Beda vs. UE on Sunday, 22 October 2006 at the RMC.

Wang-Bu
10-19-2006, 07:02 PM
FINALS - San Beda vs. UE on Sunday, 22 October 2006 at the RMC.




Sir, anong oras po ang laban natin? Congratulations ha, tsaka huwag niyo naman kami masyado gulpihin...

ESCALERA JR.
10-19-2006, 08:30 PM
Papano ba yan...tama hula ko, magcha-champion PULA!

Makikitoma :)!Inuman na

sa_pula
10-19-2006, 08:51 PM
sa ue ako... ;D ;D

ipaubaya n nila ccl sa ue 2tal s mga tournament lang nmn bwenas ue e ;D ;D

bluebruiser90
10-19-2006, 08:59 PM
UE defeated Mapua, 84-73.
SBC defeated JRU, 61-58.





Grabe JRU, dumikit pa din. Talagang mainit sila sa CCL, sayang at napakalakas ng nakabangga nila.

Howard the Duck
10-19-2006, 09:57 PM
In fairness ang daming tao kanina ah hihihi

danny
10-20-2006, 12:52 AM
FINALS - San Beda vs. UE on Sunday, 22 October 2006 at the RMC.




Sir, anong oras po ang laban natin? Congratulations ha, tsaka huwag niyo naman kami masyado gulpihin...


Wang Bu, balita ko hindi sisiryosohin ng Red Lions ang laban....kaya manalo-matalo , ok lang...o diba may spin na akong nakahanda. ;D ;)

Escalera ang galing mong manghula! Pula ang magiging kampeon. :D

danny
10-20-2006, 03:16 AM
In fairness ang daming tao kanina ah hihihi


OO naman. Lalu na kapag laban ng Red Lions, sugod kaagad ang mga Pulahang Bedista. Hardcore..ahihihihihi. ;D

J.B.
10-20-2006, 07:42 AM
^actually its the other way around...daming highschoolers na pumunta from JRU...halatang hakot crowd...the ratio is 3:1

LION
10-20-2006, 07:44 AM
FINALS - San Beda vs. UE on Sunday, 22 October 2006 at the RMC.




Sir, anong oras po ang laban natin? Congratulations ha, tsaka huwag niyo naman kami masyado gulpihin...


Congrats din pareng Wang-Bu.

Anong wag masyadong gulpihin? kami ang dapat makiusap non. ;D Muntikan na nga kaming matalo sa JRU tapos kayo iniwan niyo lang ang Mapua.

Huwag niyo kami masyadong i-press ha? Kulang ang mga gwardiya namin. ;D

easter
10-20-2006, 08:34 AM
Magandang laban ito! For the first time I will make it a point to watch the CCL finals. :)

danny
10-21-2006, 02:41 AM
^actually its the other way around...daming highschoolers na pumunta from JRU...halatang hakot crowd...the ratio is 3:1


Oo nga. Daming nanuod na "fans" ng Red Lions from JRU..ahihihihi... ang pugi pugi naman.;D

easter
10-21-2006, 06:56 AM
My little preview of the championship game tomorrow.

http://hoops.blink.ph/2006/10/20/the-hunting-game/

lekiboy
10-21-2006, 09:34 AM
My little preview of the championship game tomorrow.

http://hoops.blink.ph/2006/10/20/the-hunting-game/


easter,
goodd article..refreshing. ;D oo nga pala, it will just be a long afternoon for us...pero panalo pa din.. ;D ;D ;D

easter
10-21-2006, 09:49 AM
Thanks lekiboy. Wala na school ko kaya miron na lang. Anyway, I hope it will be one exciting game tomorrow.

cub
10-22-2006, 06:46 PM
the Red Warriors are the champions. a great game from an ex-bedan James Martinez.
UE 66, SBC 59.

lekiboy
10-22-2006, 09:20 PM
Congratulations, Red Warriors. You were the better team today. Sa susunod na pagtutuos.

LION
10-23-2006, 07:24 AM
Congratulations to the UE Warriors!

Hanep mga 3 pointers ni James Martinez. Lahat ng tira niya pumasok!

Ekwe denied the interior offense of UE but Borboran's and Martinez' 3 point shooting neutralized the interior defense of San Beda.

UE provided the template on how to beat the Red Lions. You must have superior speed, stamina to sustain that speed all game long, and impeccable outside shooting.

I thank the UE Warriors for giving us a great game. That finals game will make our team realize that there are new heights to attain and that will keep our Lions hungry. We learned a lot in that game. And that loss will keep our players' feet planted firmly on the ground.

christian
10-24-2006, 09:31 PM
the Red Warriors are the champions. a great game from an ex-bedan James Martinez.
UE 66, SBC 59.


Ex-Bedan?

The good thing about our lost was, it's still the color RED who prevailed :)

danny
10-25-2006, 12:50 AM
Wang Bu! Kampeon ang PULA dahil sa 3ptS ng Bedista.* ok di ba? hehehe..

Congratulations UE Warriors!*

MVBA
10-25-2006, 11:50 AM
CONGRATULATIONS to the University of the East Warriors for winning the Fourth Collegiate Champions League, especially to its Vis-Min stars Roberts Labagala of Cebu, Fhadzmir Bandaying and Rudy Lingganay of Zamboanga and Hans Thiele of Aklan.

Kudos also to all the other Vis-Min players of the 16 participating schools. Raise the banner of the Vis-Min player!

Howard the Duck
11-08-2006, 04:55 PM
anybody know the semifinalists of first two CCLs?