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Jump_Shooter
09-14-2006, 06:08 PM
UE finally has the twice-to-beat advantage. UST's confidence is very high. Who will prevail? Post all comments here.

LION
09-14-2006, 06:54 PM
This will be Pido Jarencio's chance to get back at UE. UST has all the ingredients to beat UE. The Tigers have the right mix of players. The big question mark however is their mental resolve. Are the Tigers, including Pido Jarencio, up to the level of competition in the Final Four? If the Tigers can play methodically and consistently against a very athletic UE team, they will most probably advance to the finals against Ateneo.

GreenArrows
09-15-2006, 07:42 AM
This is the series that has a great chance of being extended. UST, of late, has started to show its true face and this young team has matured so fast. UE should not take the Tigers forgranted since UST has the manpower depth to run the Warriors to the ground. To win, UE must pressure the one man guard rotation of UST and force him (cuan) to play all out and hopefully get into a cramping situation again. Also, UE must hope that Custodio, Martinez, Arellano (its guard rotation) will get their shooting strides in early. The big men of UST will make or break the game for UST. If given opportunities to set up properly, UST will win this game. This is why UE must press and force the UST guards (read: Cuan) from the start. Force Cuan into errors, tire him out and hopefully, his cramps will again set in.

The guards hold the key for the Warriors while the biggies of UST will be their key to win. Who will win this game? This series? Too close to call. But should be very interesting to watch.

Howard the Duck
09-15-2006, 05:09 PM
For UST: Keep the game close and hang on at the end game.
For UE: Be composed and don't get too excited.

When was UE's last appearance in the Finals? 91?

Joescoundrel
09-15-2006, 05:33 PM
There is much excitement over at Espana, and the reason is clear: UST is back in the Final 4. Things over at CM Recto are also abuzz with excitement. Both teams are very nearly matched. Let's take a look at the possible matchups:

JERVY CRUZ vs ELMER ESPIRITU: No doubt about it, Cruz wins this one hads down. Espiritu may be the better runner and jumper but Cruz is the better basketball player by far. If Cruz rules the boards UST will control the tempo and the outcome.

JAPS CUAN vs MARCY ARELLANO: This will be an interesting matchup and may prove to be more key than any of the others. Cuan is the best passer in the UAAP and is a far better penetrator and ballhandler. Arellano on the other hand is a better scorer (Cuan has no range beyond 10 feet) and has PBL experience.

DYLAN ABABOU vs MARK BORBORAN: Both players can play up to three positions, so this will be a duel of versatility. Both can score inside, on the slash and from the perimeter. Borboran however has the edge in terms of experience.

JOJO DUNCIL vs BON CUSTODIO: This will be the most anticipated matchup between two of the league's top gunners. Their respective teams will be running the offense through them and the ball will be in their hands when the game is on the line.

ALLAN EVANGELISTA vs JOREL CANIZARES: These are two players who are nominal swingmen but can actually play a variety of nonswing roles. Evangelista's edge is that he can play the post and grab rebounds unlike the strictly perimeter oriented Canizares.

HANS THIELE, BARRY LLAGAS, LAWRENCE BRIONES, JUN BANDAYING, ROB LABAGALA, JAMES MARITNEZ, ALLAN GREGORIO vs MELCHOR GILE, ANTO ESPIRITU, FRANCIS ALLERA, JUN DIZON, JUN CORTEZ, CHESTER TAYLOR: In the battle of the bench UST's reserves have pulled through time and again this season when their starters were downed by illness and injury. On the other hand, UE's bench has been erratic, sometimes disappearing at the worst moments such as their first round encounter when the Tigers creamed the Warriors.

This game may go the distance. But I say it stops at Game 2. Ateneo will face the Tigers in the Finals.

bluebruiser90
09-15-2006, 08:08 PM
For UST: Keep the game close and hang on at the end game.
For UE: Be composed and don't get too excited.

When was UE's last appearance in the Finals? 91?


1990 with Jolly Escobar and Bong Ravena vs. La Salle.* The Warriors knocked out a spirited Ateneo squad of Eric Reyes, Olsen Racela and Ritchie Ticzon for a finals slot.* I remember Ticzon on the line for two to tie UE in the final seconds.* Ticzon uncharacteristically missed the first FT and had to deliberately miss the second, hope for an offensive rebound and a put back to force extension. UE defended the rebound well and went on to their first finals since the '87 season.* The consolation for the Ateneans was knowing that they wouldn't give La Salle a chance to beat them forthe title to return the favor of the '88 season.

The 1991 Warriors team was on a downward spira and even lost to a lowly NU team. Jolly said he wanted to walk out of the coliseum wearing a brown paper bag over his head.

christian
09-15-2006, 11:01 PM
For UST: Keep the game close and hang on at the end game.
For UE: Be composed and don't get too excited.

When was UE's last appearance in the Finals? 91?


1990 with Jolly Escobar and Bong Ravena vs. La Salle.* The Warriors knocked out a spirited Ateneo squad of Eric Reyes, Olsen Racela and Ritchie Ticzon for a finals slot.* I remember Ticzon on the line for two to tie UE in the final seconds.* Ticzon uncharacteristically missed the first FT and had to deliberately miss the second, hope for an offensive rebound and a put back to force extension. UE defended the rebound well and went on to their first finals since the '87 season.* The consolation for the Ateneans was knowing that they wouldn't give La Salle a chance to beat them forthe title to return the favor of the '88 season.

The 1991 Warriors team was on a downward spira and even lost to a lowly NU team. Jolly said he wanted to walk out of the coliseum wearing a brown paper bag over his head.
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Is Jolly Escobar a former Red Cub?

pokpok
09-16-2006, 04:15 AM
This game may go the distance. But I say it stops at Game 2. Ateneo will face the Tigers in the Finals.


PAGNATALO NG UST ang UE ngyon ng 2 beses EWAN KO NA LANG!!!

GO UE WARRIORS!!! GET OUR 19th TROPHY!!!!

GOD IS ON OUR SIDE!!! ITS ABOUT TIME!!!

GUDLAK TO UE WARRIORS!!!

dvdx
09-16-2006, 10:12 AM
if UE can guard Japs Cuan much like what Marvin Cruz did, and Custodio makes a brilliant performance, they'll have a finals seat.


EDIT:

off-topic po.. wala po bang all-stars ngaung season?

the_red_one
09-17-2006, 08:03 PM
The tigers will is too strong. going into the game they won five of their last six outings, had been through some though games just to enter the final four. Their character was forged by the fire that resides in each and every student and alumni that hopes they could bring the glory back again.

advantages for ust would be- the manpower. i seriusly think that the tigers are more talented than the warriors. matchup wise.... Jervy cruz, allan evangelista vs the UE big men- clearly nobody in the line up of ue can guard cruz one on one and paired with evangelista on the weak side while cruz does his thing on the strong side...offensive rebounds would come in plenty

i think that the tigers have the heart to win... after becoming 2-5 mid way in the elimination round, most people including me gave up the ust team for dead. i thought that they were out of it and would be dwelling at the bottom of the team standings....but when you thought that things just couldnt get any worse, most of their key players got sick or suspended and that they have to rely on what they had. after the 2-5 start they won six of their last seven games to force a do or die battle with the warriors who lost two of their last three games coming into the final four.

I hope for a ust win this coming thursday because the tigers deserve to be in the finals, they earned every right to play the blue eagles for all the marbles. a win on thursday would be a testament to the team work and spirit that these guys showed during hard times. i hope that it would be ust vs. ateneo in the finals, with a major upset in game three.

bluebruiser90
09-18-2006, 02:12 PM
For UST: Keep the game close and hang on at the end game.
For UE: Be composed and don't get too excited.

When was UE's last appearance in the Finals? 91?


1990 with Jolly Escobar and Bong Ravena vs. La Salle.* The Warriors knocked out a spirited Ateneo squad of Eric Reyes, Olsen Racela and Ritchie Ticzon for a finals slot.* I remember Ticzon on the line for two to tie UE in the final seconds.* Ticzon uncharacteristically missed the first FT and had to deliberately miss the second, hope for an offensive rebound and a put back to force extension. UE defended the rebound well and went on to their first finals since the '87 season.* The consolation for the Ateneans was knowing that they wouldn't give La Salle a chance to beat them forthe title to return the favor of the '88 season.

The 1991 Warriors team was on a downward spira and even lost to a lowly NU team. Jolly said he wanted to walk out of the coliseum wearing a brown paper bag over his head.
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Is Jolly Escobar a former Red Cub?


Nope. He is a former Red Lion. Played one year for San Beda in 1985 before being exiled in the US.* Jolly was from San Beda's sister school Benedictine Abbey School (San Beda Alabang) and was recruited by the Red Lions (which was common then. Eric Altamirano was also from Bene when he was recruited by Ato to join the Red Cubs after his fresman year in Alabang) together with another outstanding teamate to join the squad (who was a better player than Jolly, a 6'1" heady shooting guard who averaged close to 18 pts per game for the San Beda seniors during the summer PABL tournament as an incoming freshman. Left San Beda with Escobar and reportedly was suppose to join La Salle in 1988 after humbling John Cardel in try-outs scrimmages.* Backed out when La Salle wanted him to re enrol as a freshman).* Jolly was not quite ready for senior basketball, and college life in general, and just drifted away. It didn't help that he broke his left arm in a freak accident while at San Beda that was to sideline him for almost a year.* Went to the US after his one year stint with Red Lions and palyed for a Division III school in NY (Long Island State I think) as small forward, came back in 1989 and played for Marsman Davao in a PABL invitational summer tournament.* He was on his way to UST to inquire about a slot on their team when he literally bumped into a UE assistant coach in Recto who gladly brought him to the Warriors who obviously welcomed him with open arms.

freak
09-18-2006, 09:35 PM
HANS THIELE, BARRY LLAGAS, LAWRENCE BRIONES, JUN BANDAYING, ROB LABAGALA, JAMES MARITNEZ, ALLAN GREGORIO vs MELCHOR GILE, ANTO ESPIRITU, FRANCIS ALLERA, JUN DIZON, JUN CORTEZ, CHESTER TAYLOR: In the battle of the bench UST's reserves have pulled through time and again this season when their starters were downed by illness and injury. On the other hand, UE's bench has been erratic, sometimes disappearing at the worst moments such as their first round encounter when the Tigers creamed the Warriors.

This game may go the distance. But I say it stops at Game 2. Ateneo will face the Tigers in the Finals.


Tito Joe, you forgot about Canlas.. and he was the one who scorched the Warriors the whole game.

This is what makes the Tigers dangerous.. you'll never know who will step up. Canlas was under radar the whole game, but when the smoke cleared, he had 16 pts to lead 4 other Tigers in double digits.

Gil_Andrews
09-18-2006, 10:10 PM
Any confirmation about the news that Bon Bon Custodio is banned by UE from playing again because of game fixing?

Jump_Shooter
09-19-2006, 04:07 PM
HANS THIELE, BARRY LLAGAS, LAWRENCE BRIONES, JUN BANDAYING, ROB LABAGALA, JAMES MARITNEZ, ALLAN GREGORIO vs MELCHOR GILE, ANTO ESPIRITU, FRANCIS ALLERA, JUN DIZON, JUN CORTEZ, CHESTER TAYLOR: In the battle of the bench UST's reserves have pulled through time and again this season when their starters were downed by illness and injury. On the other hand, UE's bench has been erratic, sometimes disappearing at the worst moments such as their first round encounter when the Tigers creamed the Warriors.

This game may go the distance. But I say it stops at Game 2. Ateneo will face the Tigers in the Finals.

Dude, I think you meant Kelvin Gregorio? ;D

Game 2 discussions may still be done on this thread. I'm not gonna open a separate one especially since Game 2 is just two days away.

TruVerde
09-21-2006, 04:39 PM
Score Updates:
UST 31 UE 19
8:00 2nd Q

TruVerde
09-21-2006, 04:52 PM
Score Updates:
UST 38 UE 28
2:40 2nd Q

patupup
09-21-2006, 04:56 PM
wala ba talaga si Bonbon? totoo ba talaga ung tsismis?

TruVerde
09-21-2006, 04:58 PM
Score Updates:
UST 43 *UE 38
Halftime

Mel
09-21-2006, 05:15 PM
Keep up the updates, man.
Thanks.

TruVerde
09-21-2006, 05:20 PM
Score Updates:
UST 54 UE 49
5:50 3rd Q

TruVerde
09-21-2006, 05:23 PM
Score Updates:
UST 54 UE 51
4:40 3rd Q

TruVerde
09-21-2006, 05:27 PM
Score Updates:
UE 54 UST 55
3:27 3rd Q

NickSparks
09-21-2006, 05:29 PM
thanks , these updates are greatly appreciated @TruVerde

Coolmanny
09-21-2006, 05:32 PM
thanks for the updates, can't watch the game now ;D

mangtsito
09-21-2006, 05:34 PM
Update:

UST: 64
UE: 58

last minute of the 3rd qtr

TruVerde
09-21-2006, 05:36 PM
Score Updates:
UST 64 UE 58
50 seconds to go 3rd Q

NickSparks
09-21-2006, 05:36 PM
thanks @ mangtsito

close game...

patupup
09-21-2006, 05:37 PM
thanks @ mangtsito

close game...

wala na ako ginawa dito kundi mag F5!* ganda ng game kahit walang picture! ;D

GO USTEEE!!!!* ;D

TruVerde
09-21-2006, 05:38 PM
Score Updates:
UST 67 UE 64
End of 3rd Q

TruVerde
09-21-2006, 05:43 PM
Score Updates:
UE 66 UST 69
8:00 4th Q

TruVerde
09-21-2006, 05:46 PM
Score Updates:
UE 68 UST 70
6:42 4th Q

TruVerde
09-21-2006, 05:49 PM
Score Updates:
UE 73 UST 72
5:45 4th Q

patupup
09-21-2006, 05:50 PM
Score Updates:*
UE 73 UST 72
5:45 4th Q

oh no, change favor na... hope USTE get its act together...

TruVerde
09-21-2006, 05:51 PM
Score Updates:
UE 75 UST 72
4:57 4th Q

TruVerde
09-21-2006, 05:55 PM
Score Updates:
UE 77 UST 72
3:30 4th Q

TruVerde
09-21-2006, 06:09 PM
Final Score:
UST 82 UE 81
ADMU vs. UST Season 69 Finals!

jembengzon
09-21-2006, 06:09 PM
congrats to the ust growling tigers. gritty game.* see you in the finals* :)

Mel
09-21-2006, 06:12 PM
What a finish! 10-4 run in the end.

Coolmanny
09-21-2006, 06:27 PM
I feel like crying, reaching the final four is already an achievement, getting into the finals is already a bonus

LION
09-21-2006, 06:32 PM
Just like what I said, UST will advance to the finals.

easter
09-21-2006, 06:38 PM
First of all congrats UST but UE deserves tons of credit as well for fighting very hard and it was just too tough not to have Bonbon in this game.

See you next year Warriors. This was still a great year for you guys.

gameface_one
09-21-2006, 07:04 PM
UST beats UE for finals date with Ateneo
abs-cbnnews.com


The UST Growling Tigers will meet the Ateneo de Manila Blue Eagles for the UAAP Season 69 finals on Sunday after beating the UE Red Warriors, 82-81, at the Araneta Coliseum Thursday.

Jervy Cruz led the Tigers with 27 points and 18 rebounds.

UST dominated UE during the first two quarters, closing the first half at 43-38.

The Warriors, however, kicked off their run-and-gun game and gained momentum at the third quarter.

UE continued to rally at the fourth but collapsed with a series of turnovers.

UST's Jojo Duncil scored a clutch basket at the finals minutes of the game to seal the victory.

Game 1 of the finals is set for Sunday at 4 p.m. at the Big Dome.

jembengzon
09-22-2006, 06:08 AM
Amazing Tigers roar to title series
By Joey Villar
The Philippine Star 09/22/2006

University of Santo Tomas rode on the shoulders of Jervy Cruz as it nipped a Bon Bon Custodio-less University of the East in a thrilling, scrambling finish, 82-81, yesterday to complete an improbable run to the finals of the 69th UAAP men’s basketball tournament at the Araneta Coliseum.

Cruz, a 20-year-old rookie transferee from Nampicuan, Nueva Ecija, powered his way to a career-high 27 points and came away with 18 rebounds, including a season best 11 on the offensive end to help lift the Tigers to their first finals appearance since 1999.

Jun Cortez, whose endgame heroics keyed UST’s 79-75 win last Sunday that forced the sudden death for the No. 2 berth, fired a triple to spark a crucial 10-2 run that gave UST an 82-79 lead, an advantage the Warriors cut to just one on Rob Labagala’s driving lay-up with 38 seconds to go in the contest.

UST blew its last attempt but two misses by Jonel Canizares — the last a tip-in of his own miss — at the buzzer foiled UE’s bid to clinch the win and barge into the finals for the first time in 16 years.

"What can I say, we’re here in the finals," said UST coach Pido Jarencio, whose wards’ amazing run to the finals underscored the team’s never-say-die spirit and big fighting heart.

UST guns for its first crown in exactly a decade on Sunday’s start of its best-of-three title showdown with Ateneo, the first to advance to the championship following a 76-73 win over Adamson, also last Sunday.

The Warriors did miss the services of the prolific Custodio, who was suspended by team officials.

Carmelita Mateo, team manager and UE executive vice president, said the suspension slapped on Custodio was for "disciplinary measures based on infraction on certain team rules."

Mateo, however, didn’t clarify.

There were reports, however, that team officials questioned Custodio’s performance in the first game Sunday.

Although Custodio, who transferred from Polytechnic University of the Philippines last year, fired 17 points in the contest, he turned the ball over seven times, particularly in crucial plays in the second half.

Custodio and the UE coaching staff under Dindo Pumaren were reportedly informed of the decision early yesterday. Custodio left the venue as soon as he learned of the verdict.

After trailing most of the way, the Warriors slowly inched their way back and then seized a 77-72 lead with over three minutes remaining in the game thanks to the troika of Labagala and second stringers Narciso Llagas and Fradzmir Bandaying.

Led by Cruz, the Tigers posted leads of as many as 14 points in the second quarter, the last at 33-19.

But the Warriors clawed back behind the duo of Marcy Arellano and Kelvin Gregorio to go into the break with just a 38-43 deficit.

Anthony Espiritu set the pace for the Tigers early by churning out eight points in the first quarter including six from behind the arc.

Earlier, Far Eastern U shocked Ateneo de Manila, 67-55, to inch closer to clinching its first-ever UAAP juniors crown.

In women’s play, University of Santo Tomas leaned on a late triple by Neri Noscal as it edged FEU, 52-49, to likewise gain a 1-0 edge in their own best-of-three showdown.