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paralusi
09-01-2006, 10:54 AM
say hello to the most stupid proposal by a PBA commissioner, or by anybody for that matter. ever.

PBA Commish wants a 3-point dunk (http://newsinfo.inq7.net/inquirerheadlines/sports/view_article.php?article_id=18405)

Kid Cubao
09-01-2006, 11:05 AM
that'll be our death blow to international success. lalong lalala ang shooting ng mga pinoy, na napag-iiwanan na ng mga koreano at hapon. this proposal parallels stu jackson's earlier call to ban the three-point shot in the last five minutes of an NBA game. jackson's proposal was turned down by the NBA board of governors. let's hope eala's proposal ends in identical fashion. too gimmicky.

yungha
09-01-2006, 12:24 PM
shades of the MBA's blitz 3.

there was a time when the chinese league had a 4-pt shot. a team's first 7 3-point shots will be counted as such, 3 points. the 8th and every succeeding triple thereafter will be counted as 4 points. it was a rule instituted to encourage teams to develop outside shooting. i think something like this would be more suitable for the PBA.

LION
09-01-2006, 01:24 PM
say hello to the most stupid proposal by a PBA commissioner, or by anybody for that matter. ever.

PBA Commish wants a 3-point dunk (http://newsinfo.inq7.net/inquirerheadlines/sports/view_article.php?article_id=18405)


Lektat, nung nabasa ko yung title nito kanina sa abs-cbn breaking news, akala ko yung 3 point dunk e pag nag take off ka sa rainbow area. :)

bluebruiser90
09-01-2006, 02:43 PM
Hindi na puwedeng ihirit yung paboritong pangasar sa mga magaling dumakdak at maarte tumira: walang score sa porma.

Magkakaroon na pala.

Ano susunod, may additional score depende sa degree of difficulty? 4 points pag reverse of windmill dunk?

Tama si Cubao, lalong hihina shooting natin niyan.* Imbis na mag develop tayo ng mga malalaking shooters panay pang dunking competition ang dadami. Kahit mga PG, mag pipilit na ding mag dunk. Sayang kasi yung puntos sa fastbreak.

bigfreeze_bibby
09-01-2006, 02:51 PM
shades of the MBA's blitz 3.

there was a time when the chinese league had a 4-pt shot. a team's first 7 3-point shots will be counted as such, 3 points. the 8th and every succeeding triple thereafter will be counted as 4 points. it was a rule instituted to encourage teams to develop outside shooting. i think something like this would be more suitable for the PBA.


Mas agree pa ko dito and if the PBA does something to improve our perimeter and 3 point shooting.

5FootCarrot
09-01-2006, 03:07 PM
In addition to the implications of the proposal on the overall quality of player shooting, which has already been mentioned here, I think that implementing this new regulation would also be a headache.

I think Condition 3 (catch and dunk in midair) would be easy to establish, but Condition 1 (take off 6ft away from the basket) could entail painting a "3-point dunk line" in every basketball court to be used by the PBA to eliminate measurement errors.

As for Condition 2 (fast break play off steal in back court), well, I reckon all you really need for that is good eyes on the floor, but...never mind, I won't go there anymore ::)

Wang-Bu
09-01-2006, 03:22 PM
Akala ko si Ka Bennie lang ang bangag. Pati pala si pongalangalang Noli Eala. Mga brod pasubok naman ng tinitira niyo para pare-pareho tayong solve, nagsasarili kayo e.

pio_valenz
09-01-2006, 06:32 PM
The single, most idiotic rule proposal ever. They might as well award five points for every successful blindfolded dunk.

jembengzon
09-01-2006, 07:18 PM
or five points for shots from midcourt. hmmm.....marami na ata ang may kaya niyan! :D

kryptonite
09-01-2006, 10:07 PM
Wala na yata mapag-uasapan sina Noli Eala sa PBA board meeting. Pure nonsense and thrash. Gimmick para bumenta ang PBA. Mabuti pa i-adopt na lang ng PBA ang FIBA rules para mas ok.

clutchjedi
09-01-2006, 11:29 PM
Sana wag makaabot kina Baumann sa FIBA ito...
baka isipin nila hindi tayo seryoso sa basketball...mamaya maudlot pa yung pagbalik natin sa international competition! :D

Or I can imagine, ano na lang itsura ni commish David Stern kapag kinamusta niya ang PBA, "So what's the latest with our friends from the Philippines?"
"Oh, in our league...we had a brilliant idea...we've made our dunks worth three points!"

Hindi siguro siya makapag-pigil tawa nun* :D

full battle gear
09-02-2006, 11:57 AM
Coaches buck Eala’s 3-point dunk

By June Navarro
Inquirer
Last updated 10:52pm (Mla time) 09/01/2006

Published on page A24 of the September 2, 2006 issue of the Philippine Daily Inquirer

FROM THE looks of it, Philippine Basketball Association commissioner Noli Eala will have to summon all his powers to convince the pro league to embrace his innovative 3-point dunk proposal.

Majority of the coaches in the league have spoken against Eala’s scheme, which will either be approved or shot down by the PBA Board of Governors when it meets Wednesday next week.

Barangay Ginebra’s Jong Uichico and Sta. Lucia Realty’s Alfrancis Chua, two coaches armed with spring-loaded players, are not excited with it.

“I thought we’re trying to go back to amateur rules so we can improve in international tournaments,” said Uichico, whose team is bursting at the seams with players capable of making the three-point dunk.

Rafi Reavis, Rudy Hatfield, Romel Adducul, Eric Menk, Andy Seigle, Mike Holper and even Sunday Salvacion could take advantage if the proposed rule gets the nod of the board.

San Miguel Beer’s Chot Reyes, who calls the shots for the national team, shares Chua and Uichico’s sentiments, along with Ryan Gregorio of Purefoods, Derek Pumaren of Talk ‘N Text, Welcoat’s Leo Austria, Binky Favis of Coca-Cola.

“That rule will defeat the purpose of training more shooters for the national team,” said Reyes.

Under Eala’s proposal, a dunk will be given three points if: No. 1, it is scored by a player who takes off six feet away from the basket; No. 2, a player finishes a fast-break play off a steal in the backcourt; or No. 3, a player completes a catch-and-dunk situation in mid-air.

Red Bull’s Yeng Guiao keeps “an open mind” but said he doesn’t think it’s workable. “Players could become prone to injury,” he said.

So far, only Air21 coach Bo Perasol approves of Eala’s proposal. “We have many players who are capable of doing (3-point dunk),” said Perasol.

Meanwhile, amateur stars LA Tenorio and Gabby Espinas have signed three- and two-year deals, respectively, with San Miguel Beer.

BigBlue
09-02-2006, 02:50 PM
was thinking this rule might be subject to judgement calls on the refs, since uso din sa atin yung mga semi-dunks, tap-ring, o kaya close lay up/follow up shot tapos sumabit na lang yung player sa ring right after, these shots sometimes create the illusion that the player completed a dunk. teka, how do we define what is or isnt a dunk after all?

Jumpman23
09-02-2006, 10:27 PM
Sana para mas okay, after nun 3 point dunk, additional 1 point pag may taunt pagkatapos 2 points pag may staredown sa kalaban at 10 points pag yumanig yung buong araneta. Pag n.r. mga manunuod, -5 agad yung team na naka dunk. Tapos pag all-star weekend, ang papalit sa slam dunk competition, best looking layup. ;D

Gil_Andrews
09-03-2006, 09:24 PM
I'm more ok with a 4 pt rainbow shot and a 1 "free throw" attempt from the 3 pt area (equivalent to 3 free throws) option.

Wang-Bu
09-04-2006, 08:09 PM
Ayusin muna nilang fuindamentals ng mga player bago magisip ng kung ano-anong gimik. Simpleng frreethrow nga hindi ma-shoot may nalalaman pang 3-point dunk at kung ano-anong kabulastugan.

AnthonyServinio
09-04-2006, 08:59 PM
* * *THIS is probably the dumbest rule proposal in the history of basketball! I believe the rule is good for the Rookie-Sophomore Blitz Game during the All-Star Weekend but not for a regular PBA game.

* * *How about this instead: if a team is ahead by five points or less after the final buzzer, the losing team can attempt once from behind the halfcourt line and if converted, the game is theirs!* *::)

freak
09-05-2006, 07:31 PM
marami tayong makikitang ma-jojoey boy nito.. hehe ;D

bryboy
09-11-2006, 11:09 AM
* * *THIS is probably the dumbest rule proposal in the history of basketball!* I believe the rule is good for the Rookie-Sophomore Blitz Game during the All-Star Weekend but not for a regular PBA game.

* * *How about this instead: if a team is ahead by five points or less after the final buzzer, the losing team can attempt once from behind the halfcourt line and if converted, the game is theirs!* *::)


I agree with you. Seems like going back to the old rules or enhancements that the MBA had implemented. This is totally killing the purpose of the game and for sure will not help the Philippines, should they get their act together and participate in the Foreign Tournaments. tsk tsk tsk

Buttah Like Parkay
09-12-2006, 11:23 AM
WOW

What a GARBAGE proposal that totally bastardizes the fundamentals of basketball.

If this is implemented, watch injury numbers increase and shooting efficiency decrease. This is stupid. It will make the PBA and Philippine basketball in general look like a JOKE.

Eala should be fired just for proposing something as dumb as this rule.

Hopefully, the board of governors have half a brain and shoot this idea down.

paralusi
09-13-2006, 08:02 AM
Coaches junk 3-point dunk

COACHES IN THE Philippine Basketball Association would rather stick to the old rules than embrace a new one.

PBA commissioner Noli Eala found this out when majority of the coaches thumbed down the implementation of the “three-point dunk” following a lengthy discussion yesterday on the subject.

“We decided to defer the implementation of the three-point dunk for further study,” said Eala. “At any rate, I’m glad that the coaches opened their minds to it.”

from INQ7.net (http://newsinfo.inq7.net/inquirerheadlines/sports/view_article.php?article_id=20644).

"defer" daw o. aba, me balak pa talagang buhayin ulit ang patay.

full battle gear
09-13-2006, 11:11 AM
Coaches dump three-point dunk
By Nelson Beltran
The Philippine Star 09/13/2006

The three-point dunk will be introduced in the Philippine Basketball Association but not in the coming season.

PBA commissioner Noli Eala yesterday announced the deferment of its implementation following a lengthy discussion with the league’s coaches.

The coaches kept an open mind on the matter but expressed apprehension on an abrupt implementation of the innovation.

"Best ideas are the craziest ones. We said why not because for sure they studied it for marketing purposes. But there’s the risk of mishandling it if it’s implemented right away," said one coach who refused to be identified.

"It’s worth considering, but I’m worried because we coaches also have a big responsibility to grassroots players. With this innovation, we may teach young players to dunk but forget the art of shooting," he added.

Eala discussed the matter with coaches Chot Reyes of San Miguel Beer, Alfrancis Chua of Sta. Lucia, Yeng Guiao of Red Bull, Tim Cone of Alaska, Ryan Gregorio of Purefoods, Jong Uichico of Ginebra, Binky Favis of Coca-Cola, Bo Perasol of Air21 and Caloy Garcia and Alex Compton of Welcoat over lunch.

Talk n Text had no representative in the meeting since the Phone Pals are now in South Korea, competing in an invitational tourney.

The coaches raised concerns and issues over the innovation being proposed. After the three-hour meeting, the consensus was the deferment of its implementation.

"In the light of this development, the PBA commissioner’s office has opted to defer the implementation of the 3-point dunk for further study and experimental implementation in next year’s All-Star weekend and the 2007 pre-season tournament,"Eala said.

Also yesterday, Eala slapped fines on 19 players totaling P102,500 for their failure to attend the 2006 PBA Annual Awards.

Mark Caguioa, who’s a third-time offender, incurred the biggest fine of P10,000, followed by Jeffrey Cariaso with P7,500 for second offense.

San Miguel’s Danny Seigle and Dorian Pena, Ginebra’s Jayjay Helterbrand,Rodney Santos, Rafi Reavis, Rommel Adducul,Eric Menk and Mike Holper, Coke’s Will Antonio and Johnny Abbarientos, Talk n Text’s Harvey Carey, Asi Taulava and Mark Cardona, Alaska’s Tony dela Cruz and Reynel Hugnatan, and Sta. Lucia’s Dennis Espino and Nelbert Omolon were fined P5,000 each.

Meanwhile, Enrico Villanueva and Joseph Yeo cross paths for the first time after their fight in a La Salle-Ateneo dream game months ago as Red Bull and Coca-Cola slug it out in a PBA pre-season game at the Emilio Aguinaldo College gym. Gametime is 4 p.m.

bluewing
09-14-2006, 01:09 AM
kalokohan talaga to.

buti at mukhang hindi matutuloy.

kung ipipilit, sana ay gawin nilang traditional ang conditions para ma-consider na 3-point dunk:

mag-take off ka beyond the arc at idakdak mo. sana ganun na lang para simple.

JonarSabilano
09-14-2006, 09:58 AM
kalokohan talaga to.

buti at mukhang hindi matutuloy.

kung ipipilit, sana ay gawin nilang traditional ang conditions para ma-consider na 3-point dunk:

mag-take off ka beyond the arc at idakdak mo. sana ganun na lang para simple.


E paano kung beyond the arc tatalon tapos lay-up inside the lane?

Di rin, 'no? :P

bluewing
09-14-2006, 10:07 AM
kalokohan talaga to.

buti at mukhang hindi matutuloy.

kung ipipilit, sana ay gawin nilang traditional ang conditions para ma-consider na 3-point dunk:

mag-take off ka beyond the arc at idakdak mo. sana ganun na lang para simple.


E paano kung beyond the arc tatalon tapos lay-up inside the lane?

Di rin, 'no?* :P




2 points lang yon. wala naman yatang proposal para sa 3-point lay-uo eh.

MonL
09-14-2006, 11:21 AM
kalokohan talaga to.

buti at mukhang hindi matutuloy.

kung ipipilit, sana ay gawin nilang traditional ang conditions para ma-consider na 3-point dunk:

mag-take off ka beyond the arc at idakdak mo. sana ganun na lang para simple.


E paano kung beyond the arc tatalon tapos lay-up inside the lane?

Di rin, 'no?* :P





2 points lang yon. wala naman yatang proposal para sa 3-point lay-uo eh.


Under those hypothetical conditions mentioned above, it should still count as three points. It's just as good as a heave from beyond the arc. The attempt was taken behind the arc, and no portion of the player's body landed in the 2-point area until after the ball left the player's hands. Impossible shot? eh kung si Paul Alvarez nakatira ng patalikod from behind the arc, eh....
:)

bluewing
09-14-2006, 02:14 PM
kalokohan talaga to.

buti at mukhang hindi matutuloy.

kung ipipilit, sana ay gawin nilang traditional ang conditions para ma-consider na 3-point dunk:

mag-take off ka beyond the arc at idakdak mo. sana ganun na lang para simple.


E paano kung beyond the arc tatalon tapos lay-up inside the lane?

Di rin, 'no?* :P





2 points lang yon. wala naman yatang proposal para sa 3-point lay-uo eh.


Under those hypothetical conditions mentioned above, it should still count as three points. It's just as good as a heave from beyond the arc. The attempt was taken behind the arc, and no portion of the player's body landed in the 2-point area until after the ball left the player's hands. Impossible shot? eh kung si Paul Alvarez nakatira ng patalikod from behind the arc, eh....
:)




i agree. pero walang rule to sanction it as such eh. kung magkaroon ng proposal, eh di ok!