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arriba95
08-03-2006, 04:03 PM
quote author=SIMBA link=topic=207.msg11599#msg11599 date=1154164558]
the classy Letran

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k2trYweatA

hmm. what a crowd...

classy ba kamo??? hehehe



its alright simba...

letranista ako pero honestly, i've been very upset at how my fellow knights have been behaving during the games. my sentiment on this matter goes way back 1992 when i was still personally part of that "crowd." sadly,such rowdy behavior still persists.

to be specific, here's my account of my experience on the misbehavior of letranites:

1. the 1992 ncaa season. too many brawls during that year.. letran vs. baste, beda vs. baste, letran vs. mapua, mapua vs. baste. what made things worse were the "rumbles" between and among fellow letranites..yes, be it frat rumbles or personal fights..all of them happened inside rizal memorial coliseum.i just thought then that maybe they should keep their infighting inside intramuros and not bring it to the basketball arena. i was so embarassed because other schools were wondrin why there was a "fight club" within the letran ncaa crowd.

2. the 1999 season. i think it was the deciding game of the finals bet csjl and jru, saw this on tv. fourth quarter, letran leading by a mile, with the game decided except for the final score. csjl point guard john paul prior was dribblng downcourt and was being shadowed by a jru defender. suddenly, horror of all horrors, prior threw a vicious elbow to the chest of the jru player. the latter retaliated, and then came the letran crowd "to the rescue"..i.e., they pelted the hardcourt with debris and coins. this led to the walkout of the whole jru bench. of course, the jru crowd pelted back, until order was restored. when the jru players and coaching staff came back on court, they conceded the championship to letran with still 2-3 minutes to go before the final buzzer. i remember what ding marcelo of manila bulletin said..something like.."letran's championship would have been sweeter had the final buzzer sounded." it broke my heart that my alma mater won the championship with one of its players starting the melee and the crowd worsening it, thus leading to a technical stoppage of the game. i even heard that letranites engaged the jru crowd in a howling match after that game.

3. 2001 juniors championship. It was the deciding game and i happened to drop by RMC to witness the match bet our Letran Squires and the powerhouse San Beda Red Cubs. It was great to watch Squires like RJ Jazul, Mark Balneg, Chuck Ronquillo, slam-dunking JC Intal and MVP-ROY-Best Defensive Player, etc. JR Reyes. They were ranged agains Red Cubs Yuri Escueta, Mark Baldos, Jay Agbayani and Ford Arao. The Squires won the match by a hairline and jubilation was all over the place, with myself joining the frenzy. Suddenly, the Letran crowd repeatedly chanted.."Beda Tulo Laway..." to my shock and consternation. NANALO NA NGA NANG-ASAR PA?! ANONG KLASENG EDUKASYON MERON ANG LETRANISTA?

4. 2003 final four battle vs. mapua. Cardinal Christian Guevarra fell hard on the floor after biting to a fake by Knight Boyet Bautista. He remained decked foe about a minute. This Letran crowd of which I was part shouted in unison towards the fallen Guevarra: "iyakin! iyakin!" My hats off to team manager Gil Angeles who immediately motioned the barbaric Letran crowd to cut the jeers.
During game 3 of the finals versus baste, another "classy" act was perpetrated by the Letran faithful. It was the third quarter of the game which i watched on TV. Knight Dale Santos was called for a "stepping on the line" violation which trigerred an uproar from the Colegio's bench and crowd. Then came the uncivilized act: pelting from the Letran side of the Astrodome. The Sebastinians shouted at the Letranites: "Walang modo! Walang modo!" The latter screamed back: "Walang Pera! Walang Pera!" Even Bill Velasco was dismayed. 'Nuff said.

5. 2004 season. Ronjay Enrile spat at Noy Javier..tsk,tsk..Eric Rodriguez got suspended for unsportsmanlike conduct and Letran securing a TRO to contest his suspension. Kahit saang anggulo tignan, mali ang ginawa ng Letran as an institution. ultimate consequence: Letran failed in its bid for back to back titles (which could have led to a three-peat)

6. 2005 finals vs. pcu. i watched game 1 in araneta. letran poked fun at Gabby Espinas and Jason Castro by teasing them: "baluga! baluga!" well, thats definitely another rowdy, uncivilized and barbaric way to go!

and the list goes on...

I am a Letranite and I will always be proud to be one. Our history as an educational institution and as a basketball powerhouse in the NCAA speak volumes of facts to be proud of. My only hope is that we eradicate all our uncivilized, rowdy, barbaric acts during the games and in general. IPAKITA NATIN KUNG ANO ANG TUNAY NA LETRANISTA. Arriba Letran!

P.S. Let this be a reminder na rin sa lahat ng NCAA schools. Let us all work for a more civilized league =)

toti_mendiola
08-03-2006, 04:57 PM
Arriba95,

Lipas na panahon na ang karahasan sa NCAA. Kung ating susuriin naging mas malubha ang sitwasyon nuong mga naunang dekada, tulad ng mga dekadang 60 at 70. Marahil ito ay isang kabanata na talagang kailangang maranasan ng mga naunang manlalaro AT* mga panitiko upang magbigay daan sa isang mas magandang organisadong palaro at liga at maging babala sa lahat na ang karahasan ay walang puwang sa isang sibilisadong panahon. At sa mga personalidad na katulad mo, tiyak na mapapanatiling panatag at mapayapa ang mga panahong tayoy sasaksi sa anumang palakasang susuungin ng ating mga minamahal na paaralan.*
Ako ay humihingi na rin ng paumanhin kung ikaw at ang mga kapwa mong letranista ay nasaling sa pagpapahayag ng kapwa kong bedistang si *Simba.

arriba95
08-03-2006, 05:17 PM
Arriba95,

Lipas na panahon na ang karahasan sa NCAA. Kung ating susuriin naging mas malubha ang sitwasyon nuong mga naunang dekada, tulad ng mga dekadang 60 at 70. Marahil ito ay isang kabanata na talagang kailangang maranasan ng mga naunang manlalaro AT* mga panitiko upang magbigay daan sa isang mas magandang organisadong palaro at liga at maging babala sa lahat na ang karahasan ay walang puwang sa isang sibilisadong panahon. At sa mga personalidad na katulad mo, tiyak na mapapanatiling panatag at mapayapa ang mga panahong tayoy sasaksi sa anumang palakasang susuungin ng ating mga minamahal na paaralan.*
Ako ay humihingi na rin ng paumanhin kung ikaw at ang mga kapwa mong letranista ay nasaling sa pagpapahayag ng kapwa kong bedistang si *Simba.



No problem man. Yep, narinig ko nga na violent talaga 60s to 80s era. ang tanging hiling ko lang nmn e wala nang "cheap shots" sa NC. Ayus lang yung asaran e...wag lang below the belt or degrading. and avoidance of pelting and physical violence. Peace out!

danny
08-04-2006, 12:46 AM
Mabuhay ka arriba.

Kami'y may kampanya sa San Beda na tanggalin ang nakakmuhing pangaasar ng mga Bedista na talamak namang ginaya ng lahat sa liga. Nakamit namin ang mga kaunting tagumpay sa kampanyang ito. Aming inaasam na bago pa man matapos ang labanan ay nakalimutan na ang hindi makatao at makadiyos na pang-iinsulto. Hindi tamang gawing sagot sa bambubususka ng kabilang paaralan, kahit gaano pa ito karumaldumal, ang pang-lalaiit sa katayuang panlipunan ng kalaban.

Sana maging kasangga namin ang mga respetadong Letranista sa munting adhikaing gawing kaigaigaya ang panoonood sa ligaang ating kinababaliwan.

Sa usapang karahasang pisikal, laos yan sa mga Bedista. Walang dating. Walang pogi-points. Hinid man lang makakapagdagdag sa kagandahang lalaki ng mga mandirigmang pula.

Sa "corny" na tuksong "Beda Tulo Laway", hindi na po totoo yan (marahil hindi alam ng mga bubwit ang kwento sa tuksong ito). May babae na po sa San Beda. Di hamak na napakaganda ng aming mga dilag. At hindi po talaga totoong tumutulo ang laway namin sa mga kababaihan sa NCAA. Ang mata at puso po ng maraming Bedista nung panahong kami'y puro lalake pa ay nakatuon sa mga Kulasa, Assumptionista, knollers, Holy, maging sa kababaihang La Salista't Atenista, at sa dating St.Theresa's.

Kaya kung tutusin, kami na po ang may karapatang sumigaw ng "tulo laway" sa ibang mga paaralan dahil hindi lang po kami naggagandahang lalaki kundi may mga diyosang kababaihan pa. ;D

Hanggang sa muli!

ESCALERA JR.
08-04-2006, 04:39 PM
Mabuhay ka arriba.

Kami'y may kampanya sa San Beda na tanggalin ang nakakmuhing pangaasar ng mga Bedista na talamak namang ginaya ng lahat sa liga. Nakamit namin ang mga kaunting tagumpay sa kampanyang ito. Aming inaasam na bago pa man matapos ang labanan ay nakalimutan na ang hindi makatao at makadiyos na pang-iinsulto. Hindi tamang gawing sagot sa bambubususka ng kabilang paaralan, kahit gaano pa ito karumaldumal, ang pang-lalaiit sa katayuang panlipunan ng kalaban.

Sana maging kasangga namin ang mga respetadong Letranista sa munting adhikaing gawing kaigaigaya ang panoonood sa ligaang ating kinababaliwan.

Sa usapang karahasang pisikal, laos yan sa mga Bedista. Walang dating. Walang pogi-points. Hinid man lang makakapagdagdag sa kagandahang lalaki ng mga mandirigmang pula.

Sa "corny" na tuksong "Beda Tulo Laway", hindi na po totoo yan (marahil hindi alam ng mga bubwit ang kwento sa tuksong ito). May babae na po sa San Beda. Di hamak na napakaganda ng aming mga dilag. At hindi po talaga totoong tumutulo ang laway namin sa mga kababaihan sa NCAA. Ang mata at puso po ng maraming Bedista nung panahong kami'y puro lalake pa ay nakatuon sa mga Kulasa, Assumptionista, knollers, Holy, maging sa kababaihang La Salista't Atenista, at sa dating St.Theresa's.

Kaya kung tutusin, kami na po ang may karapatang sumigaw ng "tulo laway" sa ibang mga paaralan dahil hindi lang po kami naggagandahang lalaki kundi may mga diyosang kababaihan pa. ;D

Hanggang sa muli!






IMO, except for the bedans, obviously many letranites are not really familiar with the words of the Indian Yell.* So everytime this was chanted during the games, the opposing teams would only guess what the true lyrics are, at ito nga ang pagkakarinig ng karamihan sa linyang....Beda kim kum kaya.

Pag hindi ka nga pamilyar, medyo malapit sa...beda tu _ _ La_ _ _.* Dahil natural lang ang asaran at katiyawan sa NCAA, naging staple jeer na ito ng kabilang panig (lalo na pag Letran ang kalaban) pag tinugtog na.

Ang pagiging All Boys school ng Sanbeda for many years is not the reason why this "tulo-laway" version was made,
i think it is because eto ang pinakamalapit na wordings naririnig nila sa kabila ng gallery.

Hope the Bedans would not take seriously this jeer coming from the Letran gallery.

I'm just not sure if this jeer will fade away, pero sana katulad ng "Iskw..."unti-unti na rin mawala.

danny
08-05-2006, 12:04 AM
It is the reason young one. Beda tulo laway sa mga babae. Another point, it has RACIST connotations if you don't know. I see you guys have a disconnect with your elders. You've completely forgotten the history of NCAA's rich "jeering" tradition. How come? ;D

ESCALERA JR.
08-05-2006, 12:40 PM
It is the reason young one. Beda tulo laway sa mga babae. Another point, it has RACIST connotations if you don't know. I see you guys have a disconnect with your elders. You've completely forgotten the history of NCAA's rich "jeering" tradition. How come? ;D



I'm not that young anymore danny, maybe even older than you. As far as i can recall, this jeer has been there when Ateneo and Lasalle were still part of the NCAA and were exclusively an all boys schools back in the early 70's.

As a grade schooler then, i enjoyed singing along this Indian Yell of yours not really knowing what the words are.
At eto nga ang madalas kong naririnig. Whatever the reason behind this "lyrics" i really don't know.

Well that's NCAA for you, one league i have never outgrown and still find enjoyable and amusing to watch up to this very day. Nothing much has change lalo na sa mga "alaskahan". Lets just take the good things with the bad. ;)

danny
08-07-2006, 11:57 PM
It is the reason young one. Beda tulo laway sa mga babae. Another point, it has RACIST connotations if you don't know. I see you guys have a disconnect with your elders. You've completely forgotten the history of NCAA's rich "jeering" tradition. How come? ;D



I'm not that young anymore danny, maybe even older than you. As far as i can recall, this jeer has been there when Ateneo and Lasalle were still part of the NCAA and were exclusively an all boys schools back in the early 70's.

As a grade schooler then, i enjoyed singing along this Indian Yell of yours not really knowing what the words are.
At eto nga ang madalas kong naririnig. Whatever the reason behind this "lyrics" i really don't know.

Well that's NCAA for you, one league i have never outgrown and still find enjoyable and amusing to watch up to this very day. Nothing much has change lalo na sa mga "alaskahan". Lets just take the good things with the bad. ;)



We are all OK here. Yup, let's enjoy the ride!

Animo!
Arriba!