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easter
07-18-2006, 09:49 AM
If these respective school legends play one on one against each other druing their UAAP prime, who would've have won? Let us not talk about playing as a team here but some good old pick-up hardcore one-on-one game in the school gym or covered court. Here is my take. Umuulan pa sa labas para mas dramatic ang effect. :D

Ateneo:
Francisco vs. Villanueva - Francisco will win because of superior skills inside and he is a lot taller.
Jun Reyes vs Ticzon - Ticzon will win because of better one on one abilities.
Erik Reyes vs Alvarez - Alvarez will be stronger off the boards plus he can matchup with Eric's offense in college.
Wesley vs Intal - Intal. It will be hard to stop him on a one on one atmosphere.
(Sino magandang kalaban ni Fonacier?)

DLSU:
Yeo vs Cardel - A tough one and maybe decided by 1pt. Yeo I think will win because of toughness.
Limpot vs Telan - Limpot will win because he was more athletic.
Dindo vs Franz - Dindo because of his speed that can negate the shooting of Franz.
Espinosa vs Mike Cortez - Mike Cortez because of athleticism but Espinosa will make this competitive.
Cardona vs Jason Webb - Cardona will win not because of offense but better defense.

UE:
Caidic vs Yap - Another tough one. If Yap can defend and keep in step with Caidic's sudden jumpers and fadeaways then he will win since Caidic won't be able to stop his athleticism.

(dagdag na lang kayo ng schools and players) :)

Ghostrider
07-18-2006, 10:23 AM
Disagree on some of your outcomes.

I've watched some of the UAAP one-on-one games (during the 80s) between Bennet Palad/Pido Jarencio and Allan Caidic, JV Gayoso vs. Rene Hawkins and some of your scenarios are totally unrealistic. Outside shooting plays a very minor role, if any in these contests. That's why guys like Rey Lazaro would make a living in these mano-a-mano duels.

Take the one between Espinosa and Cortez. Espinosa, although jet quick was five foot nothing ( 5'6) and 130 lbs. Cortez on the other hand is a well chiseled six footer. Cortez would have utilized his size advantage and repeatedly backed down Tony boy. Kung winner's outs pa, this would have been a rout. In a game of 1 to 15, the final score would be Cortez 15 Espinosa 2. Mas mabuti pa kung yung match up ay Cortez & Jason Webb and Elmer Lago & Cardona.

Yeo and Cardel, I believe would also be a mismatch because Johnedel was such a gifted one on one player. Yeo on the other hand needs to gather momentum before being able to operate. This advantage would be eliminated in the grind it out style of halfcourt basketball.

Other matchups to watch would be:

Ritualo vs. Lim Eng Beng
Noli Locsin vs. Don Allado
Maui Roca vs. Dwight Lago

On the Ateneo fence, better match up would be Jet Nieto vs. Alvarez. Athleticism vs. old school gulang.

Bugia vs. Eric Reyes/Alex Araneta
Francis Arnaiz vs. LA Tenorio
Joy Carpio vs. Wesley Gonzales
Vince Hizon vs. Matthew Gaston
Padimi Israel vs. JC Intal
John Verayo vs. Ice Canlas

FEU:

Arwind Santos vs. Anthony Williams
Johnny Abarientos vs. Celino Cruz
RJ Rizada vs. Andy De Guzman

UST:

Alwyn Espiritu vs. Dennis Espino
Cyrus Baguio vs. Udoy Belmonte
Bogs Adornado vs. Rey Evangelista
Pido Jarencio vs. Danny Florencio
Bal David vs. Larry Mumar

UE:

Jerry Codinera vs. Nino Canaleta
Boyzie Zamar vs. Marcy Arellano
Ronald Tubid vs. Bong Ravena

next up (pag ginanahan ako) Adamson, UP, NU

LION
07-18-2006, 10:48 AM
The best one on one player ever? Philip Cezar. Ask El Presidente.

Ghostrider
07-18-2006, 02:09 PM
The best one on one player ever? Philip Cezar. Ask El Presidente.

Not to belittle the skills of the Tapal King Philip Cezar, but did you ever hear of the urban legend that El Presidente threw the games since he was the hands on favorite to win the contest? Story goes El Presidente bet on Cezar to win the games and made himself alot of money.

More than two decades after, maybe someone can shed light on this matter.

bchoter
07-26-2006, 07:08 PM
Nabanggit na din lang si Cezar, him vs. Vergel Meneses.

It's a battle of offense vs. defense. I'd go for Cezar because he isn't as bad on offense as Vergel on defense.

UST

Alwyn Espiritu vs. Marvin Ortiguerra - they play so much alike you'd wonder if they were twins. Ortiguerra is better though.
Rey Evangelista vs. Estong Ballesteros - battle of the lefties. Very similar offensive skills. But Evangelista is ways better on defense
Emer Oreta vs. Nino Gelig - sometimes you'd think they were not teammates the way they battled for the ball and, subsequently, the first stab at the basket. Emer Oreta is the more complete and more wily player. He'd beat Gelig's a$$.
Chris Cantonjos vs. Gido Babilonia - Cantonjos had a better than decent college game while Babilonio expanded his game in the pros. If not for injuries Cantonjos could have had a longer pro career. But I's still pick Guido because he plays more cerebral especially when he was in the PBA
Dylan Ababou vs. Christian Luanzon - this will be a close match with two athletic SFs who can play the PF and has better than average handles to pass off as a PG at times. Luanzon's grind-it-out style may pull this one in his favor
Bobby Jose vs. Cyrus Baguio - two high flyers with zero defense. Cyrus has the better hang time but Jose jumps higher. I'm for Bobby Joe for having a more polished offense and his height advantage
Derek Hubalde vs. Henry Ong - two shooters without a conscience go up against each other. Hubalde's length and athleticism will be too much for Ong
Vincent San Diego vs. Mark Kong - with nothing to show but height, Kong has the slight advantage for being a bit more coordinated

LION
07-26-2006, 07:20 PM
O sige ito. Marvin Cruz vs. Macky Escalona. :)

arhtmahn
07-26-2006, 07:35 PM
O sige ito. Marvin Cruz vs. Macky Escalona. :)


My money's on The Maaahvelous One.

freak
07-26-2006, 10:57 PM
Derek Hubalde vs. Henry Ong - two shooters without a conscience go up against each other. Hubalde's length and athleticism will be too much for Ong


i like this.. shooters without a conscience.. hehe ;D ;D
i remember watching these guys put up 3s after another tapos the cam would pan to aric, scratching his head.. :D

Wang-Bu
08-01-2006, 08:49 PM
Kung sa UAAP lang itong mas magagandang matchup:

BOBBY DILOY vs MIKE CORTEZ: Llamado si Diloy dito kasi ginagawa na niya dati ang mga ginagawa ni Cortez ngayon nung mas marami pang allowed contact sa UAAP. Tsaka mas malakas ang pangangatawan ni Diloy, mas sanay din na mag-poste. May laban si Cortez sa bilis, baka maka-ilan siyang lusot lalo na kung magandang talbog ng mga crossover niya.

BENJIE PARAS vs ENRICO VILLANUEVA: Mas magaling na natural athlete si Paras pero mas matindi naman ang lakas ng loob at tapang ng dibdib ni Villanueva. Magandang laban ito gawa ng matinding banggaan at barugan ng dalawang mala-Hercules na mga player. Medyo mas may pukol si Benjie at mas may gulang sa poste, malamang siya ang llamado dito.

MARLOU AQUINO vs JAPETH AGUILAR: Llamado si Aquino dito kasi mas may opensa at kompiyansa siya kaysa kay Aguilar. 'Yun nga lang 'di hamak na mas magaling na atleta si Aguilar at mas may pukol sa labas. Bagama't mas magaling sa poste si Aquino, magaling din naman sa depensa at sa timing si Aguilar, at mas mataas tumalon. Maaaring lumaban pa si Aguilar dito.

BONG RAVENA vs CYRUS BAGUIO: Ito ang magandang matchup kais sa pangangatawan at sa lundag match na match ang dalawang ito. Mas magaling nga lang ng konti si Ravena pagdating sa outside shooting, kaya maaaring madala niya sa labas ang laban kapag nangailangan siya ng ibang diskarte ibnmis na para silang mga nagsasabong na manok ni Baguio sa ere.

PAUL ARTADI vs BAL DAVID: Mangangawit ang leeg ng manonood sa dalawang ito sa sobrang bilis nila. Llamado nga lang si David kasi mas kumpletong player siya pagdating sa pag-score. Walang pukol si Artadi, si David naman 'matic na halos. Medyo lamang din si David, although hindi naman lamang na lamang, pagdating sa depensa. May pagka-matador and depensa ni Artadi.

DALE SINGSON vs ALDWIN MANUBAG: Ito and isa pang matinding matchup, pareho kasing mga mahahba at madiskarteng gwardiya sina Singson at Manubag. Llamado dito si Singson kasi mas magandang instincts niya sa opensa, kaya niyang kumuha ng puntos kahit saan, hindi gaanong kaganda sa salaksakan si Manubag. Makakabawi naman sa depensa si Manubag.

BRAULIO LIM vs REY EVANGELISTA vs ONAK MAGTULIS: Ibahin naman natin, gawin nating rambol, one-on-one-on-one gaya ng kanta nina Hall and Oates. Pinakamalakas dito si Lim, pinaka-cool maglaro si Evangelista, pinakakumpleto pagdating sa all-around offensive skills si Magtulis. Dahil mas importanteng opensa kaysa depensa sa rambol llamado na si Magtulis.

pio_valenz
08-01-2006, 09:08 PM
O sige ito. Marvin Cruz vs. Macky Escalona.* *:)


My money's on The Maaahvelous One.




Gawin naman nating patas yung laban. Macky Escalona vs. Marvin Cruz/Bonbon Custodio/Marcy Arellano/Rob Labagala/Paul Artadi/whoever-else-Macky-is-thought-to-be-way-better-than.

Sam Miguel
08-01-2006, 09:14 PM
O sige ito. Marvin Cruz vs. Macky Escalona.* *:)


My money's on The Maaahvelous One.




Gawin naman nating patas yung laban. Macky Escalona vs. Marvin Cruz/Bonbon Custodio/Marcy Arellano/Rob Labagala/Paul Artadi/whoever-else-Macky-is-thought-to-be-way-better-than.


Good idea. After the other guys beat the crap out of each other over who gets to go first they'll all be tired just enough to have Macky Escalona beat the lot of them.

chocoks77
08-01-2006, 10:09 PM
O sige ito. Marvin Cruz vs. Macky Escalona.* *:)


Macky ako dito no doubt. Macky is a very smart player and he will definitely outsmart all those guys na pwede itapat sa kanya na gwardya. Brains will win against brawn. Marvin Cruz mapusok lang yan. Put everything together Macky Escalona hands down winner plus 8 pa yung kalaban kung hanggang 11 ang score...bwahahahaha

arhtmahn
08-01-2006, 11:40 PM
O sige ito. Marvin Cruz vs. Macky Escalona. :)

Macky ako dito no doubt. Macky is a very smart player and he will definitely outsmart all those guys na pwede itapat sa kanya na gwardya. Brains will win against brawn. Marvin Cruz mapusok lang yan. Put everything together Macky Escalona hands down winner plus 8 pa yung kalaban kung hanggang 11 ang score...bwahahahaha


Sorry chocoks77, I have to disagree with you on this one. The game is one on one, so no teammates and only a solitary opponent. Marvin will win hands down because no assisting required, no defense set-up to read and every point can be treated like it's a game-winning shot for a chance to blow flying kisses.

arhtmahn
08-01-2006, 11:43 PM
O sige ito. Marvin Cruz vs. Macky Escalona. :)

My money's on The Maaahvelous One.

Gawin naman nating patas yung laban. Macky Escalona vs. Marvin Cruz/Bonbon Custodio/Marcy Arellano/Rob Labagala/Paul Artadi/whoever-else-Macky-is-thought-to-be-way-better-than.


Hundi patas 'yun. Alam naman natin na basta may kakampi si Marvin, malamang talo. Mas may pag-asang manalo kung mag-isa siya.

time1513
08-02-2006, 03:23 PM
what about Boyet Bautista vs Jonas Villanueva? ;D

bigfreeze_bibby
08-02-2006, 03:30 PM
what about Boyet Bautista vs Jonas Villanueva?* ;D


I'll bank on Jonas in this match up. Boyet has the advantage in quickness pero tingin ko kaya naman i-negate ni Jonas yung advantage na yun.

time1513
08-02-2006, 03:35 PM
what about RJ Rizada vs Jeff Chan.? ;D hahahaha i wouldnt really know who would win....

Posterized
08-02-2006, 04:45 PM
^
Has to be Rizada. Kita naman sa kulay kung sino ang mas madalas maglaro. Loko lang. Parehong-pareho ang laro at laki, pero mas kalmado maglaro si Rizada kaya kung hanggang onse ang laruan, kapag 10-10, umasa kang hindi matataranta si Rizada. Sure ball.

Mateen Cleaves
08-02-2006, 05:58 PM
Gawin naman nating patas yung laban. Macky Escalona vs. Marvin Cruz/Bonbon Custodio/Marcy Arellano/Rob Labagala/Paul Artadi/whoever-else-Macky-is-thought-to-be-way-better-than.


Nakalimutan mo na naman si LA Tenorio. Alam naman natin na di hamak na mas magaling si Escalona kay Tenorio e. ::)

Kid Cubao
08-02-2006, 06:21 PM
actually they used to play a lot of one-on-one in practice, if you swing by moro on an odd early evening. guess who kept getting better in time.

arhtmahn
08-02-2006, 06:53 PM
Gawin naman nating patas yung laban. Macky Escalona vs. Marvin Cruz/Bonbon Custodio/Marcy Arellano/Rob Labagala/Paul Artadi/whoever-else-Macky-is-thought-to-be-way-better-than.

Nakalimutan mo na naman si LA Tenorio. Alam naman natin na di hamak na mas magaling si Escalona kay Tenorio e.* ::)


There is no truth to the rumor that Air21 has petitioned the PBA for Macky Escalona to be declared eligible for the upcoming draft in order that he can be picked first. It is also not true that a commissioned Social Weather Station opinion survey showed that not only is Escalona a better point guard than LA Tenorio, he is also a better shooting guard than Joseph Yeo and a better small forward than Arwind Santos.

Mateen Cleaves
08-02-2006, 06:59 PM
actually they used to play a lot of one-on-one in practice, if you swing by moro on an odd early evening. guess who kept getting better in time.


It's easy to get better if you start from a low baseline. ;D

chocoks77
08-03-2006, 12:58 AM
O sige ito. Marvin Cruz vs. Macky Escalona.* *:)

Macky ako dito no doubt. Macky is a very smart player and he will definitely outsmart all those guys na pwede itapat sa kanya na gwardya. Brains will win against brawn. Marvin Cruz mapusok lang yan. Put everything together Macky Escalona hands down winner plus 8 pa yung kalaban kung hanggang 11 ang score...bwahahahaha


Sorry chocoks77, I have to disagree with you on this one.* The game is one on one, so no teammates and only a solitary opponent.* Marvin will win hands down because no assisting required, no defense set-up to read and every point can be treated like it's a game-winning shot for a chance to blow flying kisses.



Bossing, yun ang point ko, yung thread is about one on one. Puro lang ba lakas sa one on one? I was not trying to point out na may kakampi. Outsmarting the opponent and that is whoever ang maitapat kay Macky. ;)

kryptonite
08-03-2006, 02:39 AM
JAYVEE GAYOSO vs BJ MANALO

Gayoso during his HS days at Ateneo was Mr. Basketball while Manalo was a HS prodigy also at Ateneo. Both are wily and intelligent players who can play both guard positions. Cerebral one-on-one players. Gayoso is 6-1 1/2 while Manalo is 6-0 and both are built well. But who will win?

My take is Gayoso will edge Manalo because during his haydays at Ateneo HS, he was unstoppable.

bluebruiser90
08-03-2006, 07:00 AM
^Gayoso played the front court in HS and was a better back to the basket player which is staple action in one on one comps.

easter
08-03-2006, 07:22 AM
JAYVEE GAYOSO vs BJ MANALO

Gayoso during his HS days at Ateneo was Mr. Basketball while Manalo was a HS prodigy also at Ateneo. Both are wily and intelligent players who can play both guard positions. Cerebral one-on-one players. Gayoso is 6-1 1/2 while Manalo is 6-0 and both are built well. But who will win?

My take is Gayoso will edge Manalo because during his haydays at Ateneo HS, he was unstoppable.


Pero di ba sinabi ni Jun Reyes ata yun na "BJ Manalo", when he was in high school, can go straight to the PBA? So ibig sabihin ibang klase ang galing ni Manalo.

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bluebruiser90
08-03-2006, 07:40 AM
BJ would have had his hands full with Jayvee.* Gayoso's skills were more developed, was also bigger (a little over 6'2") and had a PBA ready body in HS.* If there were HS players who could have jumped into the pro leage directly, Gayoso, Bong Hawkins (UST Nuggets) and of course Benjie Paras were the best bets from this generation.

BigBlue
08-03-2006, 08:25 AM
BJ would have had his hands full with Jayvee. Gayoso's skills were more developed, was also bigger (a little over 6'2") and had a PBA ready body in HS. If there were HS players who could have jumped into the pro leage directly, Gayoso, Bong Hawkins (UST Nuggets) and of course Benjie Paras were the best bets from this generation.



I had the privelege of seeing BJ and Enrico go at it one-on-one in the HS covered courts... BJ won that one.

bluebruiser90
08-03-2006, 09:21 AM
Medyo magkaiba naman ang laro ni Jayvee at ni Rico, lalo nung HS. Aside from being able to play the low block, Jayvee had guard skills and speed in a college PF's body. It would have been interesting.

Kid Cubao
08-03-2006, 11:21 AM
hilaw pa si rico when he came out of high school. all he had at the time was his potential and aptitude for new skills. on the other hand, jayvee gayoso was already a finished product in his junior year at ateneo high school. you see, jayvee, who's a batchmate, left for the states when we were in fifth grade. he was already a giant in grade school, but when gayoso arrived in the US, pang-guwardya lang yung tangkad nya kaya nasanay syang magdala ng bola at tumira sa labas. syempre, na-expose sya sa mga kanong mas matatangkad at mabibilis. kaya nung bumalik sya ng ateneo high school, angat na yung laro nya kung ihahambing kina seph canlas at jett nieto. if freshmen were allowed at the time to play for the UAAP juniors, he would have surely been a four-year blue eaglet standout.

brian
08-03-2006, 12:53 PM
if there was a player who jumped a level from high school, it was ateneo's steve watson...di ba 4rth year high lang siya asa seniors na?

jung si gayoso at watson kaya nag one on one, sino panalo?

Wang-Bu
08-03-2006, 01:19 PM
Kay Watson ako, bagama't lamang sa laki si Jay Gayoso, mas mautak maglaro si Tibo, at siempre pa sa one-on-one lamang ang mas magulang kasi wala kang maaasahang kakampi.

bluebruiser90
08-03-2006, 01:45 PM
Magulang nga yang si Tibo..matibay din dumepensa ng poste yan..halos magkasinglaki lang sila ni Gayo although mas malapad si jay ng kaunti..

pio_valenz
08-03-2006, 08:01 PM
Dudut Jaworski vs. Ryan Jaworski na lang.

Sam Miguel
08-03-2006, 11:17 PM
I'd take Ryan Jaworski any day of the week. At their best as basketball players Ryan easily beat Dodot like nobody's business.

It remains a mystery to me why Ryan never panned out even as a varsity player given that he was the one really being groomed by the Living Legend to be the next great Jaworski of Philippine hoopdom. I remember Ryan scrimmaging with the Ginebra and Anejo teams of the early 1990's and marveled at his level-headed play. He was a far better athlete that his Kuya, could jump high, run fast, handle, shoot and of course play that tough Jaworski defense. I always thought he would find his way to Ateneo, following the footsteps of Kuya, but it just never happened. Then a couple years back I see his image on the local news after playing target practise on some garbage bins and allegedly dabbled well in the sauce while he was at it.

kryptonite
08-03-2006, 11:30 PM
I'd take Ryan Jaworski any day of the week. At their best as basketball players Ryan easily beat Dodot like nobody's business.

It remains a mystery to me why Ryan never panned out even as a varsity player given that he was the one really being groomed by the Living Legend to be the next great Jaworski of Philippine hoopdom. I remember Ryan scrimmaging with the Ginebra and Anejo teams of the early 1990's and marveled at his level-headed play. He was a far better athlete that his Kuya, could jump high, run fast, handle, shoot and of course play that tough Jaworski defense. I always thought he would find his way to Ateneo, following the footsteps of Kuya, but it just never happened. Then a couple years back I see his image on the local news after playing target practise on some garbage bins and allegedly dabbled well in the sauce while he was at it.


SUPER BRAT si Ryan Jaworski! Puro basag-ulo ang hilig kaya ayaw sa basketball.

LION
08-04-2006, 12:08 AM
Ryan Jaworski is the better shooter. Mamili kayo, single fire, burst of three or full automatic? Kaya niya lahat yan.

freak
08-04-2006, 07:50 PM
Ryan Jaworski is the better shooter. Mamili kayo, single fire, burst of three or full automatic? Kaya niya lahat yan.



nice one lion! ehehe :D

Sam Miguel
08-04-2006, 11:27 PM
To the NCAA guys, inspired by a post by Wang-bu in another thread: KIRWIN MCKOY vs RODNEY SANTOS

I have always thought that Kirwin McKoy may just have been a bit short of breaks, because skill-wise, he should be in the PBA. He had length, strength, hops, a good shot, and he filled the lanes like the wind. Kind of like Rodney Santos.

LION
08-08-2006, 11:35 AM
Vergel Meneses vs. Kenneth Duremdes?

Allen Patrimonio vs.* Ken Bono?

Pido Jarencio vs. Jemal Vizcarra?

Jervy Cruz vs. Brian Ilad

Wesley Gonzales vs. Macmac Cardona?

JonarSabilano
08-08-2006, 04:56 PM
To the NCAA guys, inspired by a post by Wang-bu in another thread: KIRWIN MCKOY vs RODNEY SANTOS

I have always thought that Kirwin McKoy may just have been a bit short of breaks, because skill-wise, he should be in the PBA. He had length, strength, hops, a good shot, and he filled the lanes like the wind. Kind of like Rodney Santos.


I was actually looking forward to a McCoy-Hatfield match-up in the pros...

Ghostrider
08-08-2006, 05:51 PM
To the NCAA guys, inspired by a post by Wang-bu in another thread: KIRWIN MCKOY vs RODNEY SANTOS

I have always thought that Kirwin McKoy may just have been a bit short of breaks, because skill-wise, he should be in the PBA. He had length, strength, hops, a good shot, and he filled the lanes like the wind. Kind of like Rodney Santos.


I was actually looking forward to a McCoy-Hatfield match-up in the pros...


;D Priceless :D

Sam Miguel
08-08-2006, 06:19 PM
To the NCAA guys, inspired by a post by Wang-bu in another thread: KIRWIN MCKOY vs RODNEY SANTOS

I have always thought that Kirwin McKoy may just have been a bit short of breaks, because skill-wise, he should be in the PBA. He had length, strength, hops, a good shot, and he filled the lanes like the wind. Kind of like Rodney Santos.


I was actually looking forward to a McCoy-Hatfield match-up in the pros...


BWA-HAHA!

freak
08-08-2006, 07:28 PM
I was actually looking forward to a McCoy-Hatfield match-up in the pros...


astig to parehong workhorse.. they're the ones who does all the dirty work for their teams..

christian
08-08-2006, 10:51 PM
Kerwin McCoy? i believe they played different positions, but there was a time when kerwin played all positions in college.

AnthonyServinio
08-09-2006, 12:50 AM
To the NCAA guys, inspired by a post by Wang-bu in another thread: KIRWIN MCKOY vs RODNEY SANTOS

I have always thought that Kirwin McKoy may just have been a bit short of breaks, because skill-wise, he should be in the PBA. He had length, strength, hops, a good shot, and he filled the lanes like the wind. Kind of like Rodney Santos.


I was actually looking forward to a McCoy-Hatfield match-up in the pros...

;D Priceless* :D
Well this almost happened in the old MBA when Rudy Hatfield suited up for the FedEx Laguna Lakers in 1999. Around that time some teams were showing interest in the young Kerwin McCoy. However, McCoy opted to stay in the amateur ranks and only made his pro debut in 2002 with his hometown Gilbey's Olongapo Volunteers, with Hatfield already moving to the PBA.

Joescoundrel
08-16-2006, 11:12 PM
Where the heck is Kerwin McKoy now? For that matter, where is Jacques Gottenbos?

gameface_one
10-25-2007, 01:48 PM
How about King Caloy vs El Presidente in their prime?

AnthonyServinio
10-26-2007, 02:09 AM
Where the heck is Kerwin McKoy now? For that matter, where is Jacques Gottenbos?

* * *Kerwin McKoy as per last reports is involved in the sports program of the Olongapo City government.* Jacques Gottenbos is in the United States.

genom222
11-03-2007, 06:34 AM
To the NCAA guys, inspired by a post by Wang-bu in another thread: KIRWIN MCKOY vs RODNEY SANTOS

I have always thought that Kirwin McKoy may just have been a bit short of breaks, because skill-wise, he should be in the PBA. He had length, strength, hops, a good shot, and he filled the lanes like the wind. Kind of like Rodney Santos.


Kerwin would have been something if only he had the "heart" for basketball... Para kasing nawalan sya ng gana nung last year nya sa SBC (the first year w/o Rivera and Bajar and the gang) it was expected that he will be the on to carry the team kaso walang nangyari... sayang cause he was tall (6'4?) but could play the 2,3 or even 4 positions. He was a good shooter and had good handles and could play D.

I remember his match ups with Brixter Encarnacion of SSC since they were playing the same poistions then, sino kaya nanalo if one on one sila... Encarnacion would probably beat him but not by much...

How about Cholo Villanueva vs. Larry Fonacier? Battle of the two front teeth! hehe ;D

genom222
11-03-2007, 06:36 AM
How about King Caloy vs El Presidente in their prime?


That's a hard one... Hmmm Loyzaga? then again Fernandez na lang kaya? Hmmm hirap ah... El Presidente siguro but not by much...

pio_valenz
11-03-2007, 07:24 AM
^ I posted this on another thread in this forum, but it's worth repeating here. I read somewhere that the best approximation of Loyzaga's true greatness was to imagine combining Mon Fernandez and Philip Cezar during their prime. That would be the closest you would come.

MonL
11-03-2007, 08:31 AM
^ I posted this on another thread in this forum, but it's worth repeating here. I read somewhere that the best approximation of Loyzaga's true greatness was to imagine combining Mon Fernandez and Philip Cezar during their prime. That would be the closest you would come.


I heard a story long ago from those who saw him play that when King Caloy takes a shot, the game scorer would already put in two points as if on automatic. But then such stories are the stuff of legend. :)

ESCALERA JR.
11-03-2007, 08:45 AM
Samboy Lim the Skywalker vs. Aerial Voyager Vergel Meneses
Sa ere ang labanan nito...Dogfight
It a DRAW.

Allan Caidic against Jimmy Mariano, battle of the lefties!
Draw again, kahit wala pang 3pts nun time nila Mariano.

Freddie Webb vs Yoyong Martirez
Still a Draw, pero sa pagandahan ng lalaki, kay Yoyong ako ;D

Free throw Shooting: Sonny Cabatu vs. Shaquile Oneal
Tabla na naman.
Both shooting only 20%, tsamba pa :D

aircanda
11-03-2007, 05:57 PM
ngaun ko lang naisip to habang nanood ng pba...

intal vs. buenafe...

bluebruiser90
11-04-2007, 04:46 PM
Half-court One-on-One, close one but I'll give it to Meneses.

Pag whole court ang laban, kakain ng alikabok si Vergel kay Samboy. Pag nakabuwelo si Samboy, limang hakbangan lang yang court.





Samboy Lim the Skywalker vs. Aerial Voyager Vergel Meneses
Sa ere ang labanan nito...Dogfight
It a DRAW.

Allan Caidic against Jimmy Mariano, battle of the lefties!
Draw again, kahit wala pang 3pts nun time nila Mariano.

Freddie Webb vs Yoyong Martirez
Still a Draw, pero sa pagandahan ng lalaki, kay Yoyong ako ;D

Free throw Shooting: Sonny Cabatu* vs. Shaquile Oneal
Tabla na naman.
Both shooting only 20%, tsamba pa :D

bchoter
11-05-2007, 10:09 AM
Onchie Dela Cruz vs. Rudy Distrito

Winner takes on Tembong Melencio in his prime

Side note: Paramedics are required at the sidelines

Kid Cubao
11-05-2007, 10:13 AM
^^ more like the paramedics will be there to pick up the bodies.

bchoter
11-05-2007, 10:53 AM
Paramedics should also be on stand by in the Cruz-Ilad match up :D

Other interesting match-ups:
1. Battle of the 'ballers': Pre-injury Madamba vs. Danny Florencio (an alternate to Florencio is the former's fellow Marikina courts legend Pido Jarencio)
2. Battle of the brains: Philip Cezar vs. Bong Hawkins
3. The Bodyguards: Jerwin Gaco vs. Mark Fampulme
4. Feuding Towers: Vegildo Babilonia (RIP) vs. Julian Rabbi Tomacruz
5. Battle for the shrieks/for the fan gurls and fan gays: Chris Tiu vs. Richie Ticzon

animoateneo
11-10-2007, 10:22 PM
dagdag mo na rin Enrico Villanueva vs. Joseph Yeo. hehehehehe ;D

the_blast_master
11-17-2007, 11:46 PM
nasaan na nga pala si richie ticzon?

bchoter
11-19-2007, 11:22 AM
Mon Fernandez in his prime vs. Danny Francisco that realized his full potential

tigerman
12-16-2007, 02:00 PM
Based on the description of Manong Bchoter as to Bobby Jose's game during his prime, I would love to see the former Glowing Goldie and former Tiger Cyrus "SKYrus" Baguio going at it with highlight plays like this.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=na3WP6rzP7E






USTE LO MEJOR!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS!

bchoter
12-17-2007, 05:46 PM
^ If it were a race to 12 I'm pretty sure the game will be over in no time. Not only are these two guys great offensive talents but they hardly play defense at all :D

I'd probably bet on Bobby Joe for his better outside shooting. He could take Cyrus outside or drive hard to the lane. And he's a good 2-3 inches taller.

whiplash
12-19-2007, 02:48 PM
intal vs buenafe?

buenafe for sure.. inside and outside...

bchoter
12-19-2007, 03:20 PM
^ At the same age? I look at Buenafe's game as matured for his level. I'd probably give him the edge against players his age for his "gulang" aside form hsi skills. Unfortunately, I haven't seen much of JC in action in his HS days to make a good comparison.